US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP

[agrajag]

Nixon's dumbest move was agreeing to supply transcripts to the public but not the tapes to anyone even the court, you destroy evidence dummy, not keep it around to write extensive transcripts off of that you then turn over to the entire planet.

Sounds like Trump is ahead of Nixon here. Even if he has or had recording, which is doubtful, no one is ever hearing them.

Just gotta stop blabbing to NBC and the Russians that you fired your FBI director to relive pressure from the Russia investigation and he will be all set.

He can blab all he wants as long as no Republicans bat an eye. At most we get is "this is very disturbing if true... now let's talk about Loretta Lynch for the 99th time"

[Great Rumbler]

Trump will destroy the tapes, but then mention their contents on Twitter sometime later.

[benjipwns]

I'm imagining it more like his people destroy everything and he tweets out a video of himself recording the meeting and making faces into his phone.

[Nola]

Nixon's dumbest move was agreeing to supply transcripts to the public but not the tapes to anyone even the court, you destroy evidence dummy, not keep it around to write extensive transcripts off of that you then turn over to the entire planet.

Sounds like Trump is ahead of Nixon here. Even if he has or had recording, which is doubtful, no one is ever hearing them.

Just gotta stop blabbing to NBC and the Russians that you fired your FBI director to relive pressure from the Russia investigation and he will be all set.

He can blab all he wants as long as no Republicans bat an eye. At most we get is "this is very disturbing if true... now let's talk about Loretta Lynch for the 99th time"

I do have to say, from a quality of life perspective, I often envy Republican politicians. It has to be really nice to have a job where facts, integrity, and accountability are immaterial to your employers.

[agrajag]

Trump will destroy the tapes, but then mention their contents on Twitter sometime later.

But he'll use quotation and question marks to later say he was kidding or speaking hypothetically.

[benjipwns]

What if everything was transcribed in some crazy personal shorthand and covfefe actually was the smoking gun.

[agrajag]

Sean Spicer did imply covfefe was code 

[Phoenix Dark]

Nixon's dumbest move was agreeing to supply transcripts to the public but not the tapes to anyone even the court, you destroy evidence dummy, not keep it around to write extensive transcripts off of that you then turn over to the entire planet.

Actually Nixon's dumbest move was withdrawing from Vietnam and allowing Communism to sweep throughout Asia.

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[Madrun Badrun]

McCain looks like he's been staying up too late watching sports again

[Madrun Badrun]

Its starting BTW

[CatsCatsCats]

Watching it. At the bar. On mute. No subtitles. MOAR WHISKEY PLZ

[Madrun Badrun]

I poured myself some Mount Gay XO  but thats just because im at school. 

[agrajag]

LMAO, that's not what Franken asked you Sessions

[Madrun Badrun]

wtf is he going on about now

[Brehvolution]

Watching it. At the bar. On mute. No subtitles. MOAR WHISKEY PLZ

Are you on your lunch break?

[agrajag]

Sessions seems slightly unhinged. How far is he from having a "you can't handle the truth" moment brehs?

[toku]

https://twitter.com/ArmyStrang/status/874660721761681409

[Madrun Badrun]

Don't know.  everyone from the south sounds slightly unhinged to me. 

[Madrun Badrun]

Lots of not to my recollections and maybes

[Brehvolution]

https://twitter.com/ArmyStrang/status/874660721761681409

Maybe. Once older people start feeling the pinch and realized they got bamboozled they won't vote for trump again in 2020.

[Madrun Badrun]

They will, this will be Hilary's fault. 

[Madrun Badrun]

secret innuendo, how does that work.

[VomKriege]

secret innuendo, how does that work.

Sounds like the friendzone

[Madrun Badrun]

Sounds like the 5 minutes between when two dudes on the down low start talking to finding out they are both on the down low and decide to be on the down up with eachother. 

[VomKriege]

Rubio : But Comey said he came to you with his concerns?

Sessions : I think I described it more completely... he raised that issue with me I believe the next day...and he expressed concern to me about that private conversation. And I agreed with him essentially that there are rules... but there is not a prohibition...and he gave me no detail about what it was that he was concerned about... he certainly knew that he could call his direct supervisor the deputy attorney general.

 

[Madrun Badrun]

I can not answer that because it was ... I mean if it happened, it was a communication with the president

[Madrun Badrun]

'than a lot of people have understood' 

[CatsCatsCats]

Watching it. At the bar. On mute. No subtitles. MOAR WHISKEY PLZ

Are you on your lunch break?

Only god can judge me

[Great Rumbler]

On the burger scale, how does this rate?

[Madrun Badrun]

Burger King

[agrajag]

krystal burger

[Madrun Badrun]

How can you support Comey in Nov then fire him in March for the same thing.  'I think in retrospect...'

[Madrun Badrun]

McCain is actually trying, I think, its hard to tell in between his hiccup/burps

[Nola]

So I couldn't watch it, did they push into his original written and oral testimony when he essentially lied? Twice?

Or those additional meetings Comey hinted at?

I'm guessing a lot of answers that reference temporary dementia?

[Steve Contra]

God damn I doubt any Republicans would trust old bumblefuck Sessions to get them out of a speeding ticket if he was actually as dumb as he acted today.

[Human Snorenado]

God damn I doubt any Republicans would trust old bumblefuck Sessions to get them out of a speeding ticket if he was actually as dumb as he acted today.

Too bad he stops being a bumbling moron when it comes to prosecuting some poor fucker caught with a roach or disenfranchsing voters.

[etiolate]

I would be glad for Sessions to get Trump fiyah'd.

[Mandark]

Virginia primaries today.

The GOP side of the governor's race has an establishment candidate against a guy who's basically been running on the confederate flag, and they're in a dead heat right now.

[FStop7]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/13/politics/trump-senators-health-care-white-house-meeting/index.html

Trump calls the House health care bill "mean" like three weeks after he sang and danced its praises, completely fucking the Repubs who ill-advisedly went out on a limb to back that legislative turd.

I swear to God I'm halfway convinced that the stupid "Trump is a Democrat double agent" theory is true.

[bluemax]

https://twitter.com/REALpunknews/status/874744119020576768

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[Nola]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/13/politics/trump-senators-health-care-white-house-meeting/index.html

Trump calls the House health care bill "mean" like three weeks after he sang and danced its praises, completely fucking the Repubs who ill-advisedly went out on a limb to back that legislative turd.

I swear to God I'm halfway convinced that the stupid "Trump is a Democrat double agent" theory is true.

To pull something like that off I feel you need to be at least above a zero on the intellectual curiosity scale.

From Politico:

Trump has told associates that news coverage of the House health care bill was “terrible,” in the words of one associate who has spoken with him.

Trump threw a party in the Rose Garden celebrating the passage of the House bill and has publicly called it “terrific.”

But aides and associates said he has not liked the news coverage and has shown little interest in what is in the bill — but wants it to be received well.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/13/trump-urge-gop-senate-repeal-obamacare-239504

The dude just wants his victories, the credit for them, and he wants to be told people love him for it. If not he will begin throwing tantrums.

[agrajag]

the president is a toddler 

[Boredfrom]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/13/politics/trump-senators-health-care-white-house-meeting/index.html

Trump calls the House health care bill "mean" like three weeks after he sang and danced its praises, completely fucking the Repubs who ill-advisedly went out on a limb to back that legislative turd.

I swear to God I'm halfway convinced that the stupid "Trump is a Democrat double agent" theory is true.

To pull something like that off I feel you need to be at least above a zero on the intellectual curiosity scale.

From Politico:

Trump has told associates that news coverage of the House health care bill was “terrible,” in the words of one associate who has spoken with him.

Trump threw a party in the Rose Garden celebrating the passage of the House bill and has publicly called it “terrific.”

But aides and associates said he has not liked the news coverage and has shown little interest in what is in the bill — but wants it to be received well.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/13/trump-urge-gop-senate-repeal-obamacare-239504

The dude just wants his victories, the credit for them, and he wants to be told people love him for it. If not he will begin throwing tantrums.

I suppose it would be more difficult to him to mentally disassociate himself from how shitty the bill actually is if he actually cared to known (or understood) what is in the actual bill.

[Joe Molotov]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/13/politics/trump-senators-health-care-white-house-meeting/index.html

Trump calls the House health care bill "mean" like three weeks after he sang and danced its praises, completely fucking the Repubs who ill-advisedly went out on a limb to back that legislative turd.

I swear to God I'm halfway convinced that the stupid "Trump is a Democrat double agent" theory is true.

To pull something like that off I feel you need to be at least above a zero on the intellectual curiosity scale.

From Politico:

Trump has told associates that news coverage of the House health care bill was “terrible,” in the words of one associate who has spoken with him.

Trump threw a party in the Rose Garden celebrating the passage of the House bill and has publicly called it “terrific.”

But aides and associates said he has not liked the news coverage and has shown little interest in what is in the bill — but wants it to be received well.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/13/trump-urge-gop-senate-repeal-obamacare-239504

The dude just wants his victories, the credit for them, and he wants to be told people love him for it. If not he will begin throwing tantrums.

I suppose it would be more difficult to him to mentally disassociate himself from how shitty the bill actually is if he actually cared to known (or understood) what is in the actual bill.

Remember when he said everyone would have health care and the government would pay for it?

[Great Rumbler]

Virginia primaries today.

The GOP side of the governor's race has an establishment candidate against a guy who's basically been running on the confederate flag, and they're in a dead heat right now.

Gillespie ended up winning his primary by just a little over 1%.

[Trent Dole]

President Veruca

[Human Snorenado]

Some lunatic shot up the GOP congressional baseball team practice this morning, hit Rep. Steve Scalise and 4 others, two of whom are in critical condition apparently. No fatalities yet, shooter in custody.

[chronovore]

Some lunatic shot up the GOP congressional baseball team practice this morning, hit Rep. Steve Scalise and 4 others, two of whom are in critical condition apparently. No fatalities yet, shooter in custody.

So much for the tolerant left.

[TakingBackSunday]

sigh

[Boredfrom]

Some lunatic shot up the GOP congressional baseball team practice this morning, hit Rep. Steve Scalise and 4 others, two of whom are in critical condition apparently. No fatalities yet, shooter in custody.

So much for the tolerant left.

Eh... It seems that the shooter was a Bernie fan and anti-Trump.

[chronovore]

I'd like to make it clear, despite my flippancy, that I know this is an abhorrent act. No ifs, ands, or buts. It involves human injury instead of discourse. It will exacerbate the distance we already have between conservatives and liberals.

Part of me wonders if we'll see a call for firearm control finally from the Republicans, but we already have seen that they'll sell their own out, lickety-split, for their lobbyists.

In unrelated news:
https://twitter.com/ChrisMurphyCT/status/874621693741981696

[Human Snorenado]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/2017/live-updates/public-safety/updates-shooting-at-congressional-baseball-practice-in-virginia/acquaintance-describes-campaigning-for-sanders-with-hodgkinson/?utm_term=.fdc4315f6b67

[benjipwns]

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/michigan/flint-water-crisis/2017/06/14/flint-water/102838154/

The head of the Michigan health department was charged Wednesday with involuntary manslaughter, the highest-ranking member of Gov. Rick Snyder’s administration to be snagged in a criminal investigation of Flint’s lead-contaminated water.

Nick Lyon is accused of misconduct in office for failing to alert the public about an outbreak of Legionnaires’ disease in the Flint area, which has been linked by some experts to poor water quality in 2014-15.

The manslaughter charge is punishable by up to 15 years in prison, while the misconduct charge carries a prison sentence of up to five years.

The state’s chief medical officer, Dr. Eden Wells, was charged with obstruction of justice and lying to a police officer. The obstruction charge carries a prison term of up to two years.

Lyon’s failure to act resulted in the death of at least one person, 85-year-old Robert Skidmore, special agent Jeff Seipenko told a judge.

[brawndolicious]

It seems like he's a white "both sides are evil" type of dude. Probably the best I could hope for in this role of situation.

I hope he lives so people don't forget. Then maybe conservatives will back some sort of gun control.

[TakingBackSunday]

aaaaand he ded

[benjipwns]

had to make sure he couldn't talk

[FStop7]

Let's compare the degree of response from Washington to this vs. Portland.

[TakingBackSunday]

damn right.

[benjipwns]

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/13/opinion/bernie-sanders-how-democrats-can-stop-losing-elections.html

While Democrats should appeal to moderate Republicans who are disgusted with the Trump presidency, too many in our party cling to an overly cautious, centrist ideology. The party’s main thrust must be to make politics relevant to those who have given up on democracy and bring millions of new voters into the political process. It must be prepared to take on the right-wing extremist ideology of the Koch brothers and the billionaire class, and fight for an economy and a government that work for all, not just the 1 percent.

Donald Trump wants to throw 23 million Americans off health insurance. Democrats must guarantee health care to all as a right, through a Medicare-for-all, single-payer program.

Mr. Trump wants to give enormous tax breaks to billionaires. Democrats must support a progressive tax system that demands that the very wealthy, Wall Street and large corporations begin paying their fair share of taxes.

Mr. Trump wants to sell our infrastructure to Wall Street and foreign countries. Democrats must fight for a trillion-dollar public investment that creates over 13 million good-paying jobs.

Mr. Trump has withdrawn the United States from the Paris Agreement on climate change. Democrats must take on the fossil fuel industry and accelerate our efforts to combat climate change by encouraging energy efficiency and the use of sustainable energy.

Mr. Trump has proposed deep cuts to higher education. Democrats must make public colleges and universities tuition free, and substantially lower student debt.

Mr. Trump has doubled-down on our failed approach to crime that has resulted in the United States’ having more people in jail than any other country. Democrats must reform a broken criminal justice system and invest in jobs and education for our young people, not more jails and incarceration.

Mr. Trump has scapegoated and threatened the 11 million undocumented people in our country. Democrats must fight for comprehensive immigration reform and a path toward citizenship.

[etiolate]

Let's compare the degree of response from Washington to this vs. Portland.

There's probably a different response when you're the one actually being shot at.