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[Mandark]

Trump gets a folder full of positive news about himself twice a day

Twice a day since the beginning of the Trump administration, a special folder is prepared for the president. The first document is prepared around 9:30 a.m. and the follow-up, around 4:30 p.m. Former Chief of Staff Reince Priebus and former Press Secretary Sean Spicer both wanted the privilege of delivering the 20-to-25-page packet to President Trump personally, White House sources say.

These sensitive papers, described to VICE News by three current and former White House officials, don’t contain top-secret intelligence or updates on legislative initiatives. Instead, the folders are filled with screenshots of positive cable news chyrons (those lower-third headlines and crawls), admiring tweets, transcripts of fawning TV interviews, praise-filled news stories, and sometimes just pictures of Trump on TV looking powerful.

[studyguy]

https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/895003779363373056
 


tfw you have a military base/airstrip 15min from your pad and a missile installation an hour north from you.
Bethesda really stepping up that Fallout 5 marketing...

[TakingBackSunday]

jesus christ we're all doomed.

[Joe Molotov]

Now watch this drive.

[Brehvolution]

jesus christ we're all doomed.

All while trump and his cronies get to the underground safe house and ride it out with no discomfort at all.

[studyguy]

I bet the Mooch wouldn't allow this statement.
He'd probably call Kim a cocksucker and that'd be the end of it.

[skullstorm]

jesus christ we're all doomed.

All while trump and his cronies get to the underground safe house and ride it out with no discomfort at all.

If it's not fully gold-plated, Trump will be plenty uncomfortable

[studyguy]

wtf I love nixion/kissinger now

http://www.businessinsider.com/drunk-richard-nixon-nuke-north-korea-2017-1

[Great Rumbler]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/373743492151136256

[chronovore]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/373743492151136256

It's like fucking magic.

[FStop7]

Fire and Furry

[FStop7]

ugh

[Dennis]

[Joe Molotov]

Fire and Furry

Fire of the Furious: Frankly Power

[bluemax]

https://twitter.com/politiCOHEN_/status/895000919678627842

[brawndolicious]

Well perhaps Jared was thinking it was a G-d thing...

[Joe Molotov]

Well, that's just your opinon man.

[Brehvolution]

Thankfully, spelling errors are the least amount of harm they can do.

[Human Snorenado]

Maybe they heard he had info on Seth Rich's killer

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/fbi-conducted-predawn-raid-of-former-trump-campaign-chairman-manaforts-home/2017/08/09/5879fa9c-7c45-11e7-9d08-b79f191668ed_story.html?tid=pm_politics_pop&utm_term=.b3e68edea4da

[Joe Molotov]

Fake FBI

[agrajag]

it's a nothingburger

[Great Rumbler]

https://twitter.com/PhilipRucker/status/895308029515763713

[Joe Molotov]

He's gonna leave a flaming bag of dog poop on North Korea's front door.

[zomgee]

Trick hot gum.

[studyguy]

https://twitter.com/Jordanfabian/status/895369658081128450

tfw you're out here on the green while your boys get raided by the FBI #squadgoals 

[benjipwns]

Editors at The Grey Lady really playing dangerously with their headlines now.

[etiolate]

Trump's twitter is basically "I said bitch.."

[benjipwns]

Meanwhile in:


https://www.buzzfeed.com/rubycramer/our-revolution-has-a-problem-with-the-dictatorial-arrogant

“Dictatorial.” “Arrogant.” “Pompous.” “Superficial.” “Tone-deaf.” “Tone-dead.” “Out of line.” “Insulting” — “absolutely insulting.”

These are the words that Nina Turner, president of the group founded by Bernie Sanders to further his "political revolution," used in an interview to describe the Democratic National Committee. The grievances converge around a recent trip to deliver petitions to the party’s headquarters in Washington, where Turner and other progressives were greeted by barricades, security guards, and an offering of donuts and water, an empty gesture, as she saw it, indicative of an institution that isn't “smart enough, humble enough, to say let’s take a step back and really listen to the people," that instead is far too willing to “disregard people,” to “dismiss,” “belittle,” and “shun,” to “push them to the side” — all of which has left Turner with the view, as she puts it, that "the establishment side of the Democratic Party have shown themselves to be dictators," that "want to dictate the terms of unity."

When they arrived, she said, barricades blocked the entrance steps and a handful of DNC staffers stood waiting outside. “I was absolutely stunned,” Turner said Tuesday. “For them to be that tone-deaf, or that arrogant, to think that it’s OK to put up a barricade so that the people can’t even — I mean, we were not even good enough to stand on their stairs.”

“They tried to seduce us with donuts and water,” she said. “They’re pompous and arrogant enough to say to the people, you’re not good enough to be on our property — and, oh by the way, we’re just gonna hand you donuts and water over the barricade. That is insulting. Absolutely insulting.”

Turner, a self-described “justice warrior,” operates from the position that, as she put it, “the system has to be shaken up from time to time.” That was evident in late 2015, when she stunned the Clinton campaign by jumping ship for Sanders, and it’s been evident in her first few weeks at the helm of Our Revolution, where she seems eager to take on her own party. (“Be sure to ask her about donuts and water,” one Our Revolution staffer advised.)

http://www.thestranger.com/features/2017/08/09/25336895/are-the-socialists-here-to-ruin-everything

Nobody wants to read about socialists.

My boss tells me so the day before I'm scheduled to fly to Chicago to cover the national convention of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA), which recently became the largest socialist organization in the United States since the 1940s.

DSA's membership has swelled to 25,000 since the election of President Donald Trump, more than tripling its ranks in a single year. New members tend to be young, fed up with centrist Democrats, and very good at Twitter. With all this fresh interest and attention, the big challenge facing the group is proving they're more than a well-branded online phenomenon and turning their growth into real political change. The question for DSA as its members headed into the group's annual convention: How exactly do they plan to build a new American left where basically everyone else has failed before?

But Stranger editorial director Dan Savage doesn't care about any of that. In a stuffy meeting room, he notes that the share of voters who backed Green Party nominee Jill Stein in several swing states exceeded the difference between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton in those states. With that in mind, Dan has just two questions about the DSA: "Are they going to be spoilers? Are they going to run someone for president in 2020?"

"We are part of a new left-wing insurgence," DSA national director Maria Svart tells delegates in her opening remarks.

"When we look at what got us here, we don't just blame Wall Street Democrats," Svart tells the crowd. "We don't just blame the sexism and racism of Trump [and] voter suppression by the Republicans. We also recognize the failures of the left to reach beyond the choir to build a multiracial, working-class mass movement."

"We are not interested in losing," she adds. "We are not interested in performing our politics. We are here to win."

"When people look at DSA, they should be thinking about the value that it would give to a broader progressive movement to have a strong socialist pole in it," Bhaskar Sunkara, a DSA member and founder of socialist magazine Jacobin, tells me, "and not thinking about what it could mess up. It's a pretty reasonable, pragmatic organization."

"Our project is less about being a short-term electoral spoiler or anything like that. It is to build an alternative pole, alternative opposition, because you can't beat the right by just allying with the center if the center is alienating people and fueling that right itself," Sunkara says. "In order to break the cycle, at some point we need to articulate our own vision and promise of politics."

"I think the consensus within DSA—I don't think I'm being provocative to say—is that if you're in a swing state, of course you vote for the Democrat in the presidential cycle," Sunkara says. "We'd rather be in opposition under a Democrat than a Republican."

Throughout the weekend, the whole group breaks out in chants of "Ohhh, Jeremy Corbyn" to the tune of the White Stripes' "Seven Nation Army."

In Chicago, convention-goers constantly talk about the importance of maintaining allies in labor. Second on the group's list of national priorities: "expanding and deepening labor work." "There is no strong socialist movement absent a militant and powerful labor movement," it reads.

DSA pledges to increase its ties to existing unions and train its members on how to be "effective rank-and-file activists," changing unions from the inside. Expanding connections to labor is also DSA's core strategy for building a more diverse, more working-class movement—addressing the criticism that it's a movement led by white academics who've read Marx.

...

When Kshama Sawant ran in 2013, most labor endorsements went to her opponent, an incumbent Democrat. This year, both Seattle DSA and Sawant's Socialist Alternative are backing Grant against Teresa Mosqueda, who works for the Washington State Labor Council and helped draft last year's statewide minimum-wage and sick-leave initiative. In other words: Seattle socialists will spend the next three months opposite nearly every labor union in town.

While some Seattle labor unions align with business—take SEIU Local 775, which has endorsed the same candidate for mayor as the Seattle Metropolitan Chamber of Commerce—Mosqueda did not win the chamber's endorsement and is running to the left of Tim Burgess. She's promising to champion workers' and renters' rights. She supports publicly funded housing, though she'd rather fund projects using bonding than taxes on corporations, as Grant has proposed.

After Socialist Alternative's endorsement, King County Labor Council executive secretary-treasurer Nicole Grant called it "an insult to the same labor movement SA clings to for credibility."

Another amendment outlines the struggles socialists face to not cave to capitalists once in office. "In light of these challenges," the amendment reads, "DSA nationally should support explicitly socialist candidates wherever possible, whether they run independently or on Democratic Party ballot lines." The same amendment proposes that DSA should not endorse candidates who take money from corporations or are backed by any candidates or groups that do.

Neither change would bar DSA from ever backing Democrats, but they would make more explicit the group's oppositional relationship to the party. Both end up failing.

Another proposal would express DSA's support for the "draft Bernie" movement to urge Sanders to run a third-party campaign. The Democrats have become "a toxic brand and a failed party," the resolution reads. "DSA is not tied to the Democratic Party. Why tie our strategy to a sinking ship?"

Delegates vote to table that resolution.

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@12 Cuba has a 99% literacy rate! Sure they aren't allowed to actually read anything, but still!
William F. Fuckley on August 9, 2017 at 12:34 PM

the username gave me a sensible chuckle

[close]

[bluemax]

https://twitter.com/EricHaywood/status/895114372124557312

[Great Rumbler]

https://twitter.com/EricHaywood/status/895114372124557312

[Brehvolution]

Trump's twitter is basically "I said bitch.."

[Joe Molotov]

http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2017/08/09/judge-orders-searches-for-clinton-benghazi-emails-241470

Emails and Benghazi in 2017

[Dennis]

Ben Ghazi should have never sent those emails. Never we are at the bring of nuclear war with North Korea.

[Brehvolution]

http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2017/08/09/judge-orders-searches-for-clinton-benghazi-emails-241470

Emails and Benghazi in 2017

What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty?

[etiolate]

https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new-report-raises-big-questions-about-last-years-dnc-hack/

Shit I've been showing y'all for awhile, but now from another alt right right wing nuttoo.... ooh wait.

There was no hack of the Democratic National Committee’s system on July 5 last year—not by the Russians, not by anyone else. Hard science now demonstrates it was a leak—a download executed locally with a memory key or a similarly portable data-storage device. In short, it was an inside job by someone with access to the DNC’s system. This casts serious doubt on the initial “hack,” as alleged, that led to the very consequential publication of a large store of documents on WikiLeaks last summer.
Forensic investigations of documents made public two weeks prior to the July 5 leak by the person or entity known as Guccifer 2.0 show that they were fraudulent: Before Guccifer posted them they were adulterated by cutting and pasting them into a blank template that had Russian as its default language. Guccifer took responsibility on June 15 for an intrusion the DNC reported on June 14 and professed to be a WikiLeaks source—claims essential to the official narrative implicating Russia in what was soon cast as an extensive hacking operation. To put the point simply, forensic science now devastates this narrative.

[benjipwns]

Duh, nobody "hacks" something so mundane when people are willing to give it away. That report was always ass covering by the hired "security" firm.

Plus everyone knows two Russians can't use the same keyboard at the same time.

[Great Rumbler]

President Donald Trump on Thursday suggested his threat to meet North Korea’s new alleged nuclear capabilities with “fire and fury like the world has never seen” might not have been quite strong enough.

“If anything, maybe that statement wasn’t tough enough,” Trump told reporters. “It’s about time that somebody stuck up for the people of this country.”

Trump told North Korea to “get their act together” and threatened trouble “like few nations have ever been” in if it does not comply.

Japan and South Korea [and probably Guam] are pretty much boned.

[TakingBackSunday]

I'm hoping he's just blustering like he usually does

[benjipwns]

White House Watch: Is Trump Preparing to Leave the Republican Party?

[TVC15]

White House Watch: Is Trump Preparing to Leave the Republican Party?

Trump’s switching to D just in time for the 2018 election season to ensure Democrats lose bigly. Just like Bernie did. 

[Nola]

https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new-report-raises-big-questions-about-last-years-dnc-hack/

Shit I've been showing y'all for awhile, but now from another alt right right wing nuttoo.... ooh wait.

There was no hack of the Democratic National Committee’s system on July 5 last year—not by the Russians, not by anyone else. Hard science now demonstrates it was a leak—a download executed locally with a memory key or a similarly portable data-storage device. In short, it was an inside job by someone with access to the DNC’s system. This casts serious doubt on the initial “hack,” as alleged, that led to the very consequential publication of a large store of documents on WikiLeaks last summer.
Forensic investigations of documents made public two weeks prior to the July 5 leak by the person or entity known as Guccifer 2.0 show that they were fraudulent: Before Guccifer posted them they were adulterated by cutting and pasting them into a blank template that had Russian as its default language. Guccifer took responsibility on June 15 for an intrusion the DNC reported on June 14 and professed to be a WikiLeaks source—claims essential to the official narrative implicating Russia in what was soon cast as an extensive hacking operation. To put the point simply, forensic science now devastates this narrative.

You just linked me to an article that is anchoring their argument around assumptions of internet speeds stemming from speedtest.com.

....And you wonder why people laugh you off.

[studyguy]

https://twitter.com/jonathanchait/status/895724374527012864

 

https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/895734747837714433

 

https://twitter.com/jenniferjjacobs/status/895734979312979969

 

[Nola]

 

[etiolate]

In 2003, when a number of former intelligence professionals formed a group to protest the way intelligence was bent to accuse Iraq of producing weapons of mass destruction, New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof wrote a sympathetic column quoting the group's members. In 2017, you won't read about this same group's latest campaign in the big U.S. newspapers.

The Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS) have been investigating the now conventional wisdom that last year's leaks of Democratic National Committee files were the result of Russian hacks. What they found instead is evidence to the contrary.

Unlike the "current and former intelligence officials" anonymously quoted in stories about the Trump-Russia scandal, VIPS members actually have names. But their findings and doubts are only being aired by non-mainstream publications that are easy to accuse of being channels for Russian disinformation. The Nation, Consortium News, ZeroHedge and other outlets have pointed to their findings that at least some of the DNC files were taken by an insider rather than by hackers, Russian or otherwise.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-08-10/why-some-u-s-ex-spies-don-t-buy-the-russia-story

 

[Tasty]

[Broseidon]

https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new-report-raises-big-questions-about-last-years-dnc-hack/

Shit I've been showing y'all for awhile, but now from another alt right right wing nuttoo.... ooh wait.

There was no hack of the Democratic National Committee’s system on July 5 last year—not by the Russians, not by anyone else. Hard science now demonstrates it was a leak—a download executed locally with a memory key or a similarly portable data-storage device. In short, it was an inside job by someone with access to the DNC’s system. This casts serious doubt on the initial “hack,” as alleged, that led to the very consequential publication of a large store of documents on WikiLeaks last summer.
Forensic investigations of documents made public two weeks prior to the July 5 leak by the person or entity known as Guccifer 2.0 show that they were fraudulent: Before Guccifer posted them they were adulterated by cutting and pasting them into a blank template that had Russian as its default language. Guccifer took responsibility on June 15 for an intrusion the DNC reported on June 14 and professed to be a WikiLeaks source—claims essential to the official narrative implicating Russia in what was soon cast as an extensive hacking operation. To put the point simply, forensic science now devastates this narrative.

1500 words before it's revealed this "report" is an simply an open letter by "Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS)"

The customary VIPS format is an open letter, typically addressed to the president. The group has written three such letters on the DNC incident, all of which were first published by Robert Parry at www.consortiumnews.com.

An outfit that peddles in conspiracy theories (read their thoughts on Assad's CW attacks in Syria, or MH17 for example).

christ youre a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow

[etiolate]

A letter from people who have some expertise, based on people who do this sort of work, upon a report that nobody else has double checked and has been irresponsibly passed around as fact. The files were transferred at a rate that points to USB 2.0.

Deal with what's said or just i dunno fuck off?

Like GAF, this thread defaults into behaving like prey animals.

[Trent Dole]

i dunno fuck off?

Yeah you should take your own advice here.

[Tasty]

S E T H R I C H

[Broseidon]

*posts article written by crank that writes for crank-y site about letter written by conspiracy theory-pushing war crime denialists*

*smugly hotboxing in own farts*: Ha! Told you so!

*is in actuality a massive dipshit*

[FStop7]

Jeffrey Lord looks like he should be hanging outside of elemtary school playgrounds in a white van.

[Mandark]

So recently H. R. McMaster turfed a few Bannon allies from the National Security Council, including a guy who'd apparently written a memo about Trump being under siege from the deep state and whatnot. Foreign Policy got their hands on a copy of the memo and it's a doozy.

Globalists and lslamists recognize that for their visions to succeed, America, both as an ideal and as a national and political identity, must be destroyed. Atomization of society must also occur at the individual level; with attacks directed against all levels of group and personal identity. Hence the sexism, racism and xenophobia memes. As a Judea-Christian culture, forced inclusion of post-modern notions of tolerance is designed to induce nihilistic contradictions that reduce all thought, all faith, all loyalties to meaninglessness.

...

Battlespace. These attack narratives are pervasive, full spectrum and institutionalized at all levels. They operate in social media, television, the 24-hour news cycle in all media, and are entrenched at the upper levels of the bureaucracies and within the foreign policy establishment. They inform the entertainment industry from late night monologues, to situation comedies, to television series memes, to movie themes. The effort required to direct this capacity at President Trump is little more than a programming decision to do so. The cultural Marxist narrative is fully deployed, pervasive, full spectrum and ongoing. Regarding the president, attacks have become a relentless 24/7 effort. While there is certainly a Marxist agenda and even lslamist motivations that must be seriously addressed in their own right, these motivations alone seem inadequate to explain the scope and magnitude of the effort directed against the president. The economic drivers behind the Marxist and Islamist ideologues are enormously influential and seek to leverage these ideological movements for their own self interests. While beyond the actual scope of this document, the benefactors of these political movements include; Urban Real Estate who depend greatly on immigrant tenants, International Banking who seeks to maintain US debtor status so as to control the application of American power, and elements of the business sector that depend upon immigrant labor or government infrastructure. The overall objective of these economic forces is the forced urbanization of the populace, thereby necessitating a larger, more powerful government. In summary, this is a form of population control by certain business cartels in league with cultural Marxists/corporatists/lslamists who will leverage Islamic terrorism threats to justify the creation of a police state.

The Bannon faction is really a bunch of smart-dumbs, isn't it? Feels like a bunch of guys who tell everyone about how they read The Art of War, or explain the OODA loop.

[curly]

Condolences to etoilet on being fired from the National Security Council.

[etiolate]

Passive aggressive Mandark

A coward through and through

[Himu]

I'm scared for the world.

[Trent Dole]

So recently H. R. McMaster turfed a few Bannon allies from the National Security Council, including a guy who'd apparently written a memo about Drumpf being under siege from the deep state and whatnot. Foreign Policy got their hands on a copy of the memo and it's a doozy

The Bannon faction is really a bunch of smart-dumbs, isn't it? Feels like a bunch of guys who tell everyone about how they read The Art of War, or explain the OODA loop.

Reminds me of Rock On's intro http://overclocked.org/OCpoem.htm

[Mandark]

Passive aggressive Mandark

A coward through and through

This is either a joke post where you've PMed PD beforehand or one of the more aggressive Notice Me Senpais I've seen.

[Mupepe]

Bet you won't hit him, etiolate.

[benjipwns]

I'm scared for the world.

Can you exempt me from this selfless act?

[etiolate]

Passive aggressive Mandark

A coward through and through

This is either a joke post where you've PMed PD beforehand or one of the more aggressive Notice Me Senpais I've seen.

I'm addressing your passive aggressive style and that it reflects the general cowardice you have towards conflicting information, different views, standing up for anything and actually making an argument. You're an intellectual coward and I get the feeling you're just a general coward. You tend to gaslight. You tend to hide from the discussion. You just tend to be bitchmade. And I know how folks here, including you, would talk shit about me behind my back.

It's strange you use senpai when my message comes from a place of having zero respect for you, but it does fit your style of trying to belittle others that threaten you for some reason.