I don't think we're actually disagreeing or missing each others points rather than strengthening them and Rufus' original one.
My point is, like then, embracing and furthering certain propaganda narratives often has consequences to varying degrees. Since when you are someone that buys into those narratives, it becomes a lot easier to rationalize actions like internment camps, McCarthyism, escalating Vietnam, and invading Iraq. And that the larger context tends to dictate what that range of consequence realistically will be.
Right, which was my point. We already exist with those narratives continuously reinforced, and already do worse and have done worse for at least a century.
The groups masquerading as Antifa that barely rise to hoodlums along with the various white supremacists and Neo-Nazi's who think they look scary are already ideological extremes and temperamental radicals, they aren't being affected by those mass media narratives. Fox News are consider globalist (((cucks))) for Israel and so on by the "right-wing" of these forces. And both are non-factors in electoral politics, the legitimate form of this kind of dispute management. (They're actually pretty much statistically non-factors in street violence and terrorism too.)
1928 was the last election in Weimar Germany in which the Nazi's did not contest it with effort as Hitler was busy purging it after he got out of jail and the Communists had only just rebuilt themselves from the prior wave of arrests. The post 1930 election Reichstag was the last in which the Nazi's and Communists did not hold a negative majority in the Reichstag.
Percentage of seats after 1930 -> Jul 1932 -> Nov 1932 -> Mar 1933
NSDAP: 18.5% -> 37.8% -> 33.6% -> 44.5%
KPD: 13.3% -> 14.6% -> 17.1% -> 12.5%
Combined: 31.8% -> 52.4% -> 50.7% -> 57.0%
The anti-democratic forces also actually won a majority in the first round of the 1932 German Presidential election, 51.1% to 49.9%. The Mussolini style regular fascist candidate who finished fourth refused to endorse Hitler however (his being non-Aryan made him and his group on-and-off enemies of the Nazi's), so the second round was 53%-47% in favor of the "democrats" whose candidate wasn't really one and had been ruling by Presidential decree who immediately dismissed the SPD and Zentrum for von Papen.
The fact that we have none of that, within our legitimate political system, is what truly matters. I think arguably The Wall is the best example of our underlying system (such as it is) being protected for the time being. It's an entirely symbolic but highly visible action that the Republican Congress and President could enact desperately just before a midterm like they did in 2006 trying to make up for earlier alienating their base on the issue. And even that's unlikely to happen because it doesn't have support outside the party.
And no I'm not pondering how to justify posting this as relevant too much:
