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« Reply #21720 on: August 05, 2018, 12:31:39 PM »
Why does he keep incriminating himself?

Also, I thought the meeting was about adoptions, huh

He was trying to get the Russians to adopt Don Jr and take him off his hands.
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« Reply #21721 on: August 05, 2018, 12:34:25 PM »
"Eric, you really should go to that meeting with Don Jr."

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« Reply #21722 on: August 05, 2018, 01:04:36 PM »
"Eric, you really should go to that meeting with Don Jr."

"I'm sorry Ivanka, Jared is in Siberia now. Nothing I could do."
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« Reply #21723 on: August 05, 2018, 01:32:12 PM »
Should have said it was Barron’s idea

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« Reply #21724 on: August 05, 2018, 02:09:11 PM »
He was just trying to get rid of his sons and son-in-law and now he's stuck being President.

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« Reply #21725 on: August 05, 2018, 02:37:20 PM »
"Actually the meeting was only about adoption policy"

"There was no collusion"

"Who would turn down the opportunity to get info on an opponent during an election? The point is to win!"

"There was no collusion, and collusion isn't a crime"

"I think my son might have accidentally broken the law"

:neogaf

That article seems to be printing bullshit straight from the horse's mouth (WH sources). In one paragraph it notes Trump believes collusion isn't a crime based on his lawyer's arguments, and in the very next paragraph he's concerned his son may have broken the law by meeting Russians? If collusion isn't a crime, Jr didn't break the law and has nothing to worry about.

Sounds more like, you know, Trump is guilty and is realizing more people will be indicted, including his son. He kind of throws him under the bus, too. But of course, Jr is so stupid he called a blocked number before/after the meeting so...I'm pretty sure he called his dad. Do these people think that Mueller can't just get phone records from the NSA? They probably want to talk to Trump under oath because they have the evidence that he lied, but want him to lie during the interview before springing the trap.
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« Reply #21726 on: August 05, 2018, 02:43:18 PM »
He was just trying to get rid of his sons and son-in-law and now he's stuck being President.

You jest but in 25 years people will be revising the history of his presidency to have him as some well meaning outsider shackled by an era of hyper partisan politics.

Though on our current trajectory in 25 years the 14 words will be an explicit plank in the Republican Party platform and the Democratic Party will be running on abolishing the Department of Education and replacing it with the Gates Foundation because they think that will sway white supremacist voters in the suburbs so maybe it won't be that outlandish a revision...


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« Reply #21728 on: August 05, 2018, 04:06:08 PM »
When the President makes Ahmedinejad look like the the rational one.

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« Reply #21729 on: August 05, 2018, 04:12:06 PM »
This guy must be a nightmare for his secret service detail  :doge

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« Reply #21730 on: August 05, 2018, 04:23:57 PM »
 :lol thinking that wasn't planned  :doge
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« Reply #21731 on: August 05, 2018, 04:33:21 PM »
Fucking polacks

One of my dumb ass cousins in the states is a trump supporter

His parents are effing immigrants but he thinks they made it due to hard work when in reality his momma got her doctor degree for free kn Poland before they emigrated and he is coasting of that as her kid

Hes also against immigrants

Wish he could be deported back to Poland so he could take some Ls on life

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« Reply #21732 on: August 05, 2018, 04:47:07 PM »
The expat community here is full of ideological refuse, yeah.

Lots of nouveau riche STEM types who were educated in Polska Ludowa too.
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« Reply #21733 on: August 05, 2018, 04:59:02 PM »
This gives me a jumping off point for a story!

In junior high I had a picture of Stalin in my locker. My best friend at the time was Polish along with a school bully who was a grade above us. We all had to spend time together outside school because of our heritage but that didn't spare us bullying or anything (za naszą i waszą wolność, smh).

One day after school they both came by my house (which was kind of weird) but we played basketball together for awhile without any trouble. Eventually the bully brings up the picture, but instead of beating me up until I agreed to take it down he did some Ben Shapiro facts and logic routine instead. :dead

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« Reply #21734 on: August 05, 2018, 05:02:28 PM »
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« Reply #21735 on: August 05, 2018, 05:02:40 PM »
In high school I shared a locker with Alan Keyes' son, who was friendly and quiet and never brought up politics. When I was clearing out the locker at the end of the year, he'd left a pamphlet about natural hair products.

That's all.

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« Reply #21736 on: August 05, 2018, 05:03:36 PM »
Yet another way that Ben shapiro is raising the level of intellectual discourse in American society. :salute

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« Reply #21737 on: August 05, 2018, 05:40:49 PM »
In high school I shared a locker with Alan Keyes' son, who was friendly and quiet and never brought up politics. When I was clearing out the locker at the end of the year, he'd left a pamphlet about natural hair products.

That's all.

My story has the patina of being on #brand but it's actually not a story about living más (the picture wasn't there for the reason one would reasonably assume it was). I don't suspect the same thing applies for your story. :goty2

Also this was over 20+ years ago, long before Ben Shapiro was a twinkle in his dark money sugar daddy's eye.

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« Reply #21738 on: August 05, 2018, 05:42:57 PM »
So yeah. Last night I watched a video of Bernie giving this rant on the congress floor in the early 90’s. Watching it I was like,”how did I ever fall for this guy?”

But as I watched I learned why: the rhetoric. In the video he brings up very good points and criticisms towards our country and our predisposition towards greed. He mentions how America is the only industrial nation besides South Africa to not have national medical insurance system. He mentions great factoids about how some pharma companies and lobbyists buy off congressmen and women.

And it’s easy to fall for it until you realize he has nothing in the way of solutions.

He mentions that Canada has a “little” higher tax and just brushes it off.

Then goes on to say that people keep bringing economics into this instead of healthcare when he just mentioned tax raises which inherently makes it economic as much as its relation to healthcare.

So even if you agree that there’s a problem, he has nothing to offer to fix besides taxing. Meanwhile the reports say Medicare for all would cost 32 trillion.

It’s an ideology steeped on short term or “easy” (just raise taxes!!!) solutions to complicated problems. It’s not an ideology about solutions. It’s about feelings. You can go down the rabbit hole and throw this at almost any cause the far left champions and find short term solutions to almost every single case.

Watching the video made me so proud to vote for Hillary in 2016. Even more, it made me wish I had campaigned for her and voted for her in the primary.
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« Reply #21739 on: August 05, 2018, 05:49:32 PM »
Meanwhile the reports say Medicare for all would cost 32 trillion.
FACT CHECK: That was from a Two Of The Koch Brothers affiliated outfit, Bernie's staff has not done an official cost study yet so you cannot criticize their plans costs.

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« Reply #21740 on: August 05, 2018, 05:50:46 PM »
So even if you agree that there’s a problem, he has nothing to offer to fix besides taxing. Meanwhile the reports say Medicare for all would cost 32 trillion.

That same report says it would also save 2 trillion over that period.

Did you leave this out, or were you not aware because the outlet you got this from left it out?

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« Reply #21741 on: August 05, 2018, 05:54:40 PM »
So even if you agree that there’s a problem, he has nothing to offer to fix besides taxing. Meanwhile the reports say Medicare for all would cost 32 trillion.

That same report says it would also save 2 trillion over that period.

Did you leave this out, or were you not aware because the outlet you got this from left it out?

The second one probably
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« Reply #21742 on: August 05, 2018, 05:57:38 PM »
I’ll look into it.
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« Reply #21743 on: August 05, 2018, 06:02:38 PM »
So yeah. Last night I watched a video of Bernie giving this rant on the congress floor in the early 90’s. Watching it I was like,”how did I ever fall for this guy?”

But as I watched I learned why: the rhetoric. In the video he brings up very good points and criticisms towards our country and our predisposition towards greed. He mentions how America is the only industrial nation besides South Africa to not have national medical insurance system. He mentions great factoids about how some pharma companies and lobbyists buy off congressmen and women.

And it’s easy to fall for it until you realize he has nothing in the way of solutions.

He mentions that Canada has a “little” higher tax and just brushes it off.

Then goes on to say that people keep bringing economics into this instead of healthcare when he just mentioned tax raises which inherently makes it economic as much as its relation to healthcare.

So even if you agree that there’s a problem, he has nothing to offer to fix besides taxing. Meanwhile the reports say Medicare for all would cost 32 trillion.

It’s an ideology steeped on short term or “easy” (just raise taxes!!!) solutions to complicated problems. It’s not an ideology about solutions. It’s about feelings. You can go down the rabbit hole and throw this at almost any cause the far left champions and find short term solutions to almost every single case.

Watching the video made me so proud to vote for Hillary in 2016. Even more, it made me wish I had campaigned for her and voted for her in the primary.
Yes, Bernie Sanders is a con artist.

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« Reply #21744 on: August 05, 2018, 06:13:45 PM »
So even if you agree that there’s a problem, he has nothing to offer to fix besides taxing. Meanwhile the reports say Medicare for all would cost 32 trillion.

That same report says it would also save 2 trillion over that period.

Did you leave this out, or were you not aware because the outlet you got this from left it out?

Yep.

And the 32 trillion is in large part because you are deeply disrupting a system that comprises 18% of GDP. Costs are incredibly front loaded and the legislation being forecast is incredibly light on cost controls that any finalized single-payer bill will almost certainly beef up.

The fact that over ten years it STILL comes in cheaper than our current system is an incredible indictment of just how fucked up and broken our current system is. That you could basically give people the most expansive coverage in the world and still come in cheaper relative to the alternative scenario according to a libertarian institution is pretty crazy.


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« Reply #21745 on: August 05, 2018, 06:13:57 PM »
https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mercatus.org%2Fsystem%2Ffiles%2Fblahous-costs-medicare-mercatus-working-paper-v1_1.pdf

Table 2, "Change in healthcare spending" and "Administrative cost savings."

Basically Mercatus, a pro-market think tank, did a cost-projection study on M4A which showed it would save money (oopsie!), then notified the press by blasting out a summary which talks about the "unprecedented strain on the federal budget" while leaving out that finding, burying it in the charts and assuming reporters would be too lazy to dig it up themselves.

Whatever you think of the projections (maybe they're wrong! this kind of thing is hard to do), their motive is pretty clear.

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« Reply #21746 on: August 05, 2018, 06:23:03 PM »
Cindi, like gun control, I would advice not drawing conclusions by reacting to the most left leaning advocates on an issue. Given the political constraints of our system and what the history of governance in this country tells us. Even The New Deal was whittled down and compromised and I don't think we are anywhere close to the sort of wave that could provide modern far left policy anywhere close to that opportunity.


In all likelihood the next major healthcare legislation will end up somewhere between what we have now(just adding more subsidies, re-strengthning the cost sharing subsidies, reimplementing and actually funding temporary risk corridors, and maybe a Medicaid/Medicare buy in with some sort of far too weak prescription drug negotiation mechanism) and recent moderate Democratic proposals that have adjusted toward the left of the party(thankfully) like this . In a perfect storm maybe you get a more deeply modified single payer bill. Bernie's current proposal has zero chance of ever becoming law.
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« Reply #21747 on: August 05, 2018, 06:39:05 PM »
I think this is where I point out for the hundredth time how Obamacare is a clear trojan horse for Medicare for all, and the next step in the process will be 1) raising the income ceiling requirement for Medicaid 2) increase doctor/hospital reimbursements 3) change the name from Medicaid to something else.

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« Reply #21748 on: August 05, 2018, 06:42:07 PM »
Woulda had Medicare buy-in already if Ned Lamont had beaten Joe Lieberman.

*kicks dirt, grumbles*

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« Reply #21749 on: August 05, 2018, 07:18:12 PM »
In high school I shared a locker with Alan Keyes' son, who was friendly and quiet and never brought up politics. When I was clearing out the locker at the end of the year, he'd left a pamphlet about natural hair products.

That's all.

For a few minutes I thought Allen Keyes was actually the same person as  (LT Col) Allen West...

Sadly, the Allen West version is much more exciting.

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« Reply #21750 on: August 05, 2018, 07:21:36 PM »
I think this is where I point out for the hundredth time how Obamacare is a clear trojan horse for Medicare for all, and the next step in the process will be 1) raising the income ceiling requirement for Medicaid 2) increase doctor/hospital reimbursements 3) change the name from Medicaid to something else.

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I think this is probably sort of true, as originally written, but the Supreme Court sort of cycle dit up and I’m no longer sure that I believe that will actually come to pass.

I also don’t think most of the Democratic caucus actually viewed it  as a Trojan horse... it just kind of ended up that way because it wa obvious that it wouldn’t really constrain costs all that much (other than just slowing the rate of growth).

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« Reply #21752 on: August 05, 2018, 07:28:55 PM »
What the fuck is he even saying.
Even when you rearrange the sentence:
"Must also clear trees to stop fire from spreading"

it still makes no fucking sense.  :lol

Also, water diverted to the ocean. Isn't that just the endpoint of the rivers?  ???
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« Reply #21753 on: August 05, 2018, 07:33:15 PM »
What the fuck is he even saying.
Even when you rearrange the sentence:
"Must also clear trees to stop fire from spreading"

it still makes no fucking sense.  :lol

Also, water diverted to the ocean. Isn't that just the endpoint of the rivers?  ???

I think what he is saying is that he'll cripple the EPA.
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« Reply #21754 on: August 05, 2018, 07:41:48 PM »
What the fuck is he even saying.
Even when you rearrange the sentence:
"Must also clear trees to stop fire from spreading"

it still makes no fucking sense.  :lol

Also, water diverted to the ocean. Isn't that just the endpoint of the rivers?  ???

There can't be any forest fires in there ain't no trees, homie

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« Reply #21755 on: August 05, 2018, 07:42:29 PM »
What the fuck is he even saying.
Even when you rearrange the sentence:
"Must also clear trees to stop fire from spreading"

it still makes no fucking sense.  :lol

Also, water diverted to the ocean. Isn't that just the endpoint of the rivers?  ???
I think what he is saying is that he'll cripple the EPA.
I'm thinking an EO to give the water the freedom and liberty it deserves.



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« Reply #21756 on: August 05, 2018, 07:58:54 PM »
What the fuck is he even saying.
Even when you rearrange the sentence:
"Must also clear trees to stop fire from spreading"

it still makes no fucking sense.  :lol
No, that makes sense. Downed deadwood in forests assists fires in spreading faster than if it's cleared out and there's only healthy trees. Some forests have this management done regularly, others have it done never because of regulations to "protect" them. That was the case in Yellowstone once. I assume he would be claiming that's the case in California now.

It's a centuries old conservationism vs. environmentalism debate.

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« Reply #21758 on: August 05, 2018, 08:15:30 PM »
Because I can. :snob

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« Reply #21759 on: August 05, 2018, 09:12:04 PM »
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« Reply #21760 on: August 06, 2018, 01:37:22 AM »
https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mercatus.org%2Fsystem%2Ffiles%2Fblahous-costs-medicare-mercatus-working-paper-v1_1.pdf

Table 2, "Change in healthcare spending" and "Administrative cost savings."

Basically Mercatus, a pro-market think tank, did a cost-projection study on M4A which showed it would save money (oopsie!), then notified the press by blasting out a summary which talks about the "unprecedented strain on the federal budget" while leaving out that finding, burying it in the charts and assuming reporters would be too lazy to dig it up themselves.

Whatever you think of the projections (maybe they're wrong! this kind of thing is hard to do), their motive is pretty clear.

Thank you very much for the correction!
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« Reply #21761 on: August 06, 2018, 03:05:52 AM »
Fucking polacks

One of my dumb ass cousins in the states is a trump supporter

His parents are effing immigrants but he thinks they made it due to hard work when in reality his momma got her doctor degree for free kn Poland before they emigrated and he is coasting of that as her kid

Hes also against immigrants

Wish he could be deported back to Poland so he could take some Ls on life
Oh, I can do better than this - one side of my family were in the fucking holding camps before coming over to the US and guess who some of them support!
What the fuck is he even saying.
Even when you rearrange the sentence:
"Must also clear trees to stop fire from spreading"

it still makes no fucking sense.  :lol

Also, water diverted to the ocean. Isn't that just the endpoint of the rivers?  ???
WHERE WE GO ONE WE GO ALL :trumps
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« Reply #21762 on: August 06, 2018, 10:18:12 AM »
I think to go understand this tweet, you need to understand that Trump thinks he’s uniquely genius

Actually, I think that this is a sign of his stupidity. IMO, as you get more and more domain expertise it actually tends to make you less certain of outcomes, because there are more variables you are considering.

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« Reply #21764 on: August 06, 2018, 11:59:19 AM »
https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1026163246057828357

Definitely think this accurately sums up the base of the 2018 Trump/Republican Party. 

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« Reply #21765 on: August 06, 2018, 12:04:41 PM »
My cousin's family are Q people.

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« Reply #21767 on: August 06, 2018, 01:06:49 PM »
Obnoxious Twitter link that could have been a link to the article instead.

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As 2018 arrived, the Auto Alliance even pushed junk science, questioning in a legal document whether tailpipe pollution causes early deaths. (Decades of research has found that it does.) The Alliance also quoted legitimate studies out of context, implying that climate scientists “tune” their models to arrive at certain outcomes and that global warming does not exacerbate drought or hurricanes.

Very important for legal entities to have them free speech [sic].

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« Reply #21768 on: August 06, 2018, 01:59:19 PM »
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1026524292396273664

Trump's really obsessed with this water thing.
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« Reply #21770 on: August 06, 2018, 03:56:05 PM »
DUMP THE PACIFIC OCEAN, ALL OF IT, ON CALIFORNIA. SOLVES DROUGHT AND FIRE WOES.

Checkmate libs
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« Reply #21771 on: August 06, 2018, 04:16:25 PM »
Corncob the cons

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« Reply #21772 on: August 06, 2018, 04:22:43 PM »
Think of California with plenty of Water - Nice!

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« Reply #21775 on: August 06, 2018, 04:51:18 PM »
Don't believe the lies of snitchy Rick Gates. Witchhunt!
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« Reply #21776 on: August 06, 2018, 04:55:48 PM »
Will have to switch from Witch Hunt to Moscow Trials.
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« Reply #21777 on: August 06, 2018, 05:09:43 PM »
Seems like Bolton is trying to start a war with Iran before he loses this opportunity.

Sanctions against Iran will be reimposed around midnight, basically snapping the neck of their already ailing economy.
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« Reply #21778 on: August 06, 2018, 05:34:37 PM »
If they don't want the sanctions to be imposed they should come to the table and negotiate with Trump.

Yeah, this is a great idea and not at all dumb.

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« Reply #21779 on: August 06, 2018, 06:06:01 PM »
The Rick story has a twist.

He says he embezzled hundreds of thousands of dollars he handled for Manafort and Manafort did not know

https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1026578182563086337

 :lol
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