US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP

[benjipwns]

Lyz Lenz gets to the questions Mandark wants answers to: The mystery of Tucker Carlson

TUCKER CARLSON IS SHOUTING when he tells me he isn’t shouting. The barrage of his voice has been relentless throughout the interview.

“I don’t want to be John McLaughlin yelling at people. Why would I want to do that? I don’t need to do that,” he insists. “I actually don’t think the audience likes that. I don’t like it. But the idea that I win debates because I yell louder, it’s, like, absurd.”

“I didn’t say you win because you shouted. I just said there is a lot of shouting.”

“There is not a lot of shouting. I do the show every night. I know what’s on it.”

“Okay,” I say, “but you are shouting right now.”

“It’s because I talk loud. I was shouting before.”

I am confused. “You were definitely shouting before. That’s why this is funny,” I say laughing nervously. “Because you are like, “I AM NOT SHOUTING!”

Carlson then tells me how he is the loudest person in the restaurant. Just ask his family. I mean, sure he was shouting, but he’s a loud guy, okay?

We’ve moved from denial to acceptance in less than a minute. It’s pure Tucker Carlson, a move I’ve seen hundreds of times in the over 40 hours of Tucker Carlson Tonight clips I’ve watched on Fox News in recent months. Reporters go on his show believing they’ll be discussing health care or Donald Trump’s mental health, only to be met with the question, “Do you think you are practicing journalism?”

Reeling guests stumble and fall. “Answer the question,” Carlson demands. “Answer the question!” But the question is unanswerable.


WHAT HAPPENED TO TUCKER CARLSON? People in media ask themselves this question with the same pearl-clutching, righteous tone they use when discussing their aunt in Connecticut who voted for Trump.

Ask Tucker Carlson whatever happened to Tucker Carlson, and he gets upset.

“Who thinks I’ve changed?” he demands. I didn’t want to give up any of my sources, a few of whom still count him as a friend, so I stammered out my editor’s name.

“Uh, Kyle Pope,” I said.

“Is Kyle kind of dumb?” Carlson responds.

(Editor’s note: Arguable.)

[bluemax]

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How the hell did 16.5k people think Wu was a good candidate?

Source is here btw: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/09/04/us/elections/results-massachusetts-primary-elections.html

https://twitter.com/Spacekatgal/status/1037309367220162560

[benjipwns]

wow, same unfortunate problem as Hillary had

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/Spacekatgal/status/1037524682705125376
https://twitter.com/Spacekatgal/status/1037527149849272320

edit: oh my god, sorry beaks but this one is just too...

https://twitter.com/Spacekatgal/status/1037305394740305922

[team filler]

 

[Trent Dole]

edit: oh my god, sorry beaks but this one is just too...

https://twitter.com/Spacekatgal/status/1037305394740305922

[brawndolicious]

What is her reason for running for political office?

[Maiden Voyage]

What is her reason for running for political office?

GamerGate

[benjipwns]

What is her reason for running for political office?

"I stood up to the alt-right during GamerGate and I'll stand up to them in Congress too."

mirror of the ad quote is from, plus confusion about what powers members of the House have

https://twitter.com/Spacekatgal/status/833127658582065152

https://twitter.com/Spacekatgal/status/957031908990472192

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[Maiden Voyage]

That Op-Ed is old now, this is the new conspiratorial hotness:


Mike Pence needs to step it up.

[benjipwns]

The only explanation for the back-and-forth came from a Democratic aide speaking on condition of anonymity, who said Wednesday night that some in the party "have reason to believe that a conversation happened and are continuing to pursue it."

...

Marc Kasowitz, founder of the Kasowitz firm, briefly represented Trump in the Mueller investigation last year before bowing out and has continued to represent the president in a defamation lawsuit filed against him by former “Apprentice” contestant Summer Zervos. The firm has represented Trump in multiple other cases over the past decade.

And it’s a vast firm, with more than 250 lawyers on staff whom Harris may have been referring to. More clues may emerge as soon as next week, with the California Democrat saying during the hearing that she would follow up on the matter in the form of written questions for Kavanaugh.

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be a hero

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[Maiden Voyage]

You know I never understood why poeple loved her so much and wanted her to run for president in 2020. But after watching her today....holy fuck sign me up for Harris 2020

-unbiased Reddit user cohengoingrat

[kingv]

The entire article consisted of "We're trying to ignore Trump when he does something insane, but generally speaking we're in support of the administration's proposals and policies." It was a self indulgent piece of writing meant to reassure the author about being part of this white house, probably written hastily in embarrassment after yesterday's preview of Woodward's book - not some covert missive from a brave resistance figure written deep behind enemy lines. In short, he can go fuck himself, I don't care about his excuses, and I hope when something inevitably goes horribly wrong he feels ashamed enough to kill himself or something.

I don’t think it’s really all the surprising that a Republican supports Republican policies... but I’m not really sure how much of these “policies” Trump really has any control over at this point or maybe even cares or aware.

Sometimes you feel like the Democrats are being hyperbolic about the level of babysitting being done to Trump and then you read this and think that maybe they are actually underselling it. Like did Trump create executive time, or did his staff come up with it so that they could get things done

[Joe Molotov]

The Kavanaugh hearing is getting pretty wild. Booker's leaking documents from committee about Kavanaugh's ummm...shaky support of RvW and then telling GOP senators if they wanna do something about it, then bring it on. Not that it'll matter in the end, I'm sure he'll still get confirmed.

[Boredfrom]

Is still good that he does this.

[kingv]

I think a narrative is being established that
 1) Kavanaugh is not who he claims to be and is being evasive.
2) may be part of a play at obstruction of justice by a President under investigation for federal crimes
3) Republicans are supporting him despite knowing both of those things, and are in fact covering it up.
4) Kavanaugh is against certain things that certain Republican Senators have claims to be for in the past, putting them in a tough spot two months before an election.


It sort of remains to be seen how well the D’s can actually fully substantiate those points, but that seems to be the plan

[Phoenix Dark]

Not a fan of the NYT op-ed. On one hand I understand the logic, but on the other hand there is something cowardly and even sinister about unelected officials sabotaging a president. Yea Trump is trash, but he's the president. If he is this mentally and morally unfit for office, officials should step forward and argue for his removal. The other argument is that since they can't get rid of him with the 25st amendment (which only sidelines a president for a few weeks while congress decides what happens next), this person was forced to do this as his only means of warning the American people (and more importantly, congress) of what is happening. I guess...but still, not a fan.

We're basically relying on a handful of "patriots" to save us from an unstable president. What if they fail? What if, by writing this op-ed, this person ends up helping Trump consolidate power by purging suspected disloyal members of his admin. If you were truly working to save the republic, why would you say anything? Lots of questions.

[agrajag]

That NYT article just gives fuel to all the deep state conspiracy bs.

[Joe Molotov]

I mean, I’m loving it on a sheer fuckery level. But as far as the meat of it goes, it’s just another in a long line of “adults” that were going to save us from Trump. Assuming they’re even actually doing anything other than covering their ass when they’re inevitably forced to look for post-Trump employment (the book deals and CNN gigs write themselves).

[agrajag]

Exactly, they aren't doing shit. They are just making themselves feel/look better. They should be resigning and condemning him in droves, if they are such heroes.

[Nintex]

Harris seems to have been given some sort of information. 

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

https://mobile.twitter.com/ScottWalker/status/1037746406298136577

 

[Nintex]

I haven't figured out what is dumber yet.

Throwing a hissy fit because people don't stand when a song plays

- or -

Kneeling to protest a leader you don't like

Huntsman denies to have been the op-ed writer, so does Sarah Sanders
https://twitter.com/USEmbRuPress/status/1037751354507309063

[Steve Contra]

It's definitely the first, but what is really dumb is not having any idea why players are kneeling despite constant media attention since 2016

[benjipwns]

It's definitely the first, but what is really dumb is not having any idea why players are kneeling despite constant media attention since 2016

Benghazi?

[Steve Contra]

It's definitely the first, but what is really dumb is not having any idea why players are kneeling despite constant media attention since 2016

Benghazi?

That and Hillary's emails which makes Trump's opposition weird but whatever.

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

I haven't figured out what is dumber yet.

Throwing a hissy fit because people don't stand when a song plays

- or -

Kneeling to protest a leader you don't like

What about spending millions of taxpayer dollars to advertise the military industrial complex at a sports event?

[Mandark]

I haven't figured out what is dumber yet.

Throwing a hissy fit because people don't stand when a song plays

- or -

Kneeling to protest a leader you don't like

Perfect Nintex post: acting above the fray and calling other people dumb while somehow fucking up the most basic facts of the story.

Is this a Dorian Gray situation and you have a portrait of yourself that's getting smarter?

[Brehvolution]

https://mobile.twitter.com/ScottWalker/status/1037746406298136577

 

Why do you hate freedom, scott? Also, shut the fuck up scott.

[Phoenix Dark]

Tariffs are fucking various business fields in Wisconsin right now and Walker is actually pretty unpopular/losing in polls. I hope this is the year he finally falls.

[kingv]

His bitmoji is a lot more handsome than he is and doesn’t even really look like him.

[benjipwns]

If only Trump would just LOCK HER UP already, the NFL players could get back to RESPECTING OUR TROOPS which is what standing with your hand on your heart during the anthem obviously and clearly means.

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/NPR/status/1037807908690358272

https://twitter.com/SenateMajLdr/status/1037775037695229952

 

[Great Rumbler]

Ryan's off to a cushy K Street job in Janauary anyway, of course he isn't going to do anything about this.

[Himu]

lmao you mental midget

"Kaepernik had everything and was raised well off" is one of the most bone headed arguments ever. The man never knew his father. His father didn't want him. He was basically an orphan. Can you imagine that, even if you did grow up well off? As if money is supposed to heal the wound that you're an orphan, and your family gave you up, your father didn't want you? Oh, but it's okay. KAEPERNIK SHOULD KNOW HIS PLACE, right? Reading the comments made me furious.

Like this one.

A half black man that became an NFL player that had no priors with the police started kneeling during the National Anthem during NFL games who grew up in a wealthy suburbian neighborhood who just happened to be worse backup quarter back or lowest ranked QB during that time. I wonder how much he was paid to kneel by the group whom told him to do this when Trump won. It's said that politics is smeared in every show, sport, event in the entire country now. Everything is about racism or hatred. The U.S. is slowly but surely turning into a European nation. Even blacks in Europe can't stand blacks in America. A black man from even Africa doesn't act like a black man in America. It's terrible honestly.

Conservatives: America is the land of the free and you are censoring free speech.

Also conservatives: You cannot use your American right to protest causes during sports. You're rich. KKKnow your place.

Freedom of only I have true freedom speech.

You guys were right about cuckservatives.

[nachobro]

the left is just as stupid on this one. stan for multinational corps who practice modern day slavery and use child labor to make shoes because of some lame performative wokeness

the only winner is nike's bottom line

[Himu]

I support the message but yeah. I ain't gonna buy a pair of Ones because of it.

Also let's be honest. Kaepernik didn't even vote in 2016. The dude missed out on something on the ballot related to Californian prisons, which undoubtedly affects black people. So he's the wrong person to get behind entirely.

[nachobro]

yeah kaep seems like a dope but if he gets young people to care about issues with police and discrimination, that's fine by me.

[Himu]

yeah kaep seems like a dope but if he gets young people to care about issues with police and discrimination, that's fine by me.

Kaep = Shinobi

[nachobro]

  shinobi used his influence to try and get people interested in mass effect andromeda so he's definitely a lot lower on the totem pole

[Himu]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[benjipwns]

Another Democratic Ambush? Not in Delaware, as Carper Rebuffs Outsider’s Bid

#WheresTheBlueWave?

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lmao at this picture

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[Mandark]

Ben Shapiro, not entirely consistent about free speech? Heavens to Murgatroyd.

Should we prosecute sedition?

At some point, opposition must be considered disloyal. At some point, the American people must say "enough." At some point, Republicans in Congress must stop delicately tiptoeing with regard to sedition and must pass legislation to prosecute such sedition.

"Freedom of speech!" the American Civil Liberties Union will protest. Before we buy into the slogan, we must remember our history. President Abraham Lincoln suspended the writ of habeas corpus and allowed governmental officials to arrest Rep. Clement Vallandigham after Vallandigham called the Civil War "cruel" and "wicked," shut down hundreds of opposition newspapers, and had members of the Maryland legislature placed in prison to prevent Maryland's secession. The Union won the Civil War.

Under the Espionage Act of 1917, opponents of World War I were routinely prosecuted, and the Supreme Court routinely upheld their convictions. Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes rightly wrote, "When a nation is at war, many things that might be said in time of peace are such a hindrance to its effort that their utterance will not be endured so long as men fight and that no Court could regard them as protected by any constitutional right." The Allies won World War I.

During World War II, President Franklin D. Roosevelt authorized the internment of hundreds of thousands of Japanese-Americans, as well as allowing the prosecution and/or deportation of those who opposed the war. The Allies won World War II.

During the Vietnam War, the Supreme Court repeatedly upheld the free speech rights of war opponents, whether those opponents distributed leaflets depicting the rape of the Statue of Liberty or wore jackets emblazoned with the slogan "F--- the Draft." America lost the Vietnam War.

This is not to argue that every measure taken by the government to prosecute opponents of American wars is just or right or Constitutional. Some restrictions, however, are just and right and Constitutional -- and necessary. No war can be won when members of a disloyal opposition are given free reign to undermine it.

Rule of thumb: You don't have to take "public intellectuals" seriously if they're selling gold and caffeine pills. I'm sure he doesn't see himself this way but Shapiro's in the same bucket with Cernovich, Posobiec, etc.

[benjipwns]

HEY HEY HEY, WE HAVE A BEN SHAPIRO THREAD

And let's not just sell his opinions SHORT. Mandark, you shouldn't just beLITTLE him just because of his side SMALL businesses. And when comparing him to someone like Mike Cernovich we should consider both his REACH and also the HEIGHT of his status.

[Mandark]

Cause it doesn't actually take any more time or effort thanks to Google, and Shapiro's views on criticizing the president during wartime mysteriously shifted during the period from 2009 to 2016.

[benjipwns]

President Abraham Lincoln suspended the writ of habeas corpus and allowed governmental officials to arrest Rep. Clement Vallandigham after Vallandigham called the Civil War "cruel" and "wicked," ... The Union won the Civil War.

Rather more importantly, in my opinion anyway, he had him sent across enemy lines. Lincoln didn't want him arrested, but once he was, Lincoln's "solution" to not putting him in jail was pretty awful from a theoretical/philosophical point of view.

[VomKriege]

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/09/this-is-a-constitutional-crisis/569443/

The Deep State was the Shallow State all along.

[Himu]

[kingv]

Ben Shapiro 2016: “I will never vote for Trump! Please buy my vitamins”
2018: “imma vote for trump in 2020. Please buy my vitamins”

Ben don’t even take himself seriously.

[Nintex]

Battle of the speeches





It's like watching 2 different universes 

[TakingBackSunday]

Anominous

[Mandark]

https://i.imgur.com/Jy396jw.jpg

The original has the mom yelling "YOU ASSUMED MY GENDER!" at the kid, which is far and away conservative comics' favorite gag.

[Nintex]

Yeah line up those traitors. put them against the wall.

Louise Mensch and John Schindler have confirmed that the marshall of the supreme court will execute them at dawn as they squeeze out the KGB nanobugs.

https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1038164819252269056

 

[TakingBackSunday]

mmm, my daily dose of nintex posts

[Mandark]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/09/05/down-ballot-liberal-reformers-take-over-criminal-justice-system/

Very pleasantly surprised by how much traction criminal justice reform is getting. Did not see that coming.

[kingv]

At some level I think ther is only so much an AG or prosecutor can do.

They can remove some of the worst abuses, but at some point laws will be needed to find alternatives to prosecution. There are a lot of public nuisance type laws that probably disproportionately hit people with mental illness, and saying “oh I no longer prosecute public urination or laws intended to limit panhandling or whatever (here these are laws that prevent people from loitering in street medians) might end up cutting it short.

[curly]

Obama endorsed Medicare for All. Crazy how quickly M4A has become mainstream for the Dems.

https://i.imgur.com/Jy396jw.jpg

The original has the mom yelling "YOU ASSUMED MY GENDER!" at the kid, which is far and away conservative comics' favorite gag.

also the bore's

[Mandark]

Obama endorsed Medicare for All. Crazy how quickly M4A has become mainstream for the Dems.

I wonder if Republican obstinacy is a factor here. Part of the idea behind the ACA was that they could possibly peel off some votes, and at least the GOP would be invested in making it work once it became law. Instead they got the broadest, most sustained resistance to a piece of legislation in my lifetime: multiple court challenges, a bazillion repeal bills, state governments opting out of making their own exchanges or taking the Medicaid expansion (which was only an option as the result of a SCOTUS decision), the Trump administration undermining the exchanges, etc.

If that's how they react to a compromise bill that keeps the private insurance industry in place, why not just go for something like single payer? How much worse could the backlash possibly be compared to 2010?

[benjipwns]

mmm, my daily dose of nintex posts

mmm is like a groan of pain right

just a heads up, i am currently in the process of attempting to acquire a sealed train from GermanBore

[Nintex]

Trump's followers and allies are literally turning into comic book villains 

https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/1038003807068860416