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« Reply #29342 on: January 30, 2019, 12:03:20 AM »
I just saw this clip for the first time and it’s uttery outrageous:

https://twitter.com/thomasurlatoile/status/1079870178077433858

My opinion of Obama just sank like a rock. You ever wonder how Hillary managed to lose Michigan... now you know.

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« Reply #29343 on: January 30, 2019, 01:13:07 AM »
I'm fairly sure that the water was safe* to drink by that point, and I understand what Obama was doing.

The potential harm from that sort of breach of trust can be much larger than just the initial direct affects. There's reason to believe that knowledge of the Tuskeegee experiments had a lasting effect on the trust black Americans had in doctors (for pretty obvious reasons) and that in turn made them more likely to forego medical care and more likely to die early, have serious problems go untreated, etc. It's a very natural reaction to being fucked over but compounds the problem.

Obama was trying to prevent something like that from developing, as well as a stigma getting attached to the "poisoned" kids. But I absolutely see why some Flint residents would feel like their problems were being minimized or dismissed.


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*By whatever the conventional standards are. I followed this at the time, and the EPA/Michigan govt. was releasing weekly data on lead concentrations in Flint. IIRC there was still a handful of households with super high lead content that had been identified, but overall the water would pass the test even without filters. But don't quote me cause it's all a bit fuzzy and it's too late for me to google a bunch of pdfs.
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« Reply #29344 on: January 30, 2019, 01:18:11 AM »
"I'll show everyone the water is okay to drink by not actually drinking the water!" *puts water to lips*

obama apologists  :lol
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« Reply #29345 on: January 30, 2019, 01:58:44 AM »
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« Reply #29346 on: January 30, 2019, 02:14:34 AM »
The administrations bookending the Obama one are literal morons, but that doesn't mean his was particularly great. :trumps
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« Reply #29347 on: January 30, 2019, 02:35:09 AM »
Obama's basically Matthew Stafford: consistently frustrating, but compared to other presidents/Lions QBs in the last few decades...

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« Reply #29348 on: January 30, 2019, 02:38:17 AM »
It's really the kids that are at risk though for lead exposure and the current 15 PPB regulation is expected to be revised down to 1 PPB to match the science. Drinking the water to let the crowd think you're willing to feel the pain is just a desperate move you have to do since there's no political or financial backing to properly fix the problem.

The best thing to do would be to prosecute the governor. It takes several years and hundreds of millions to fix the water, but you can at least put his ass in prison.

if dem margins are so small that they are quaking in their boots over the coffee guy spoiling their election after the last two years, they have way bigger problems than the coffee guy running

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He has earned billions commodifying coffee and jazz culture, Schultz is basically moderate white Jesus.

Also, the only Dem candidates with balls so far are Warren and Inslee so if November 2020 becomes a choice between THREE old white people, that's kind of awkward to explain to the young/minority base.

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« Reply #29349 on: January 30, 2019, 02:58:29 AM »
Remember when Starbucks tried to get their wage slaves to talk to customers about race? Can't wait to bring that kind of thinking to the executive branch.

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« Reply #29350 on: January 30, 2019, 03:03:42 AM »
Remember when Starbucks tried to get their wage slaves to talk to customers about race? Can't wait to bring that kind of thinking to the executive branch.

This is not to be confused with the time they did one day of national sensitivity training after calling the cops on a black guy who was waiting for his friends.

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« Reply #29351 on: January 30, 2019, 03:41:30 AM »
bush jr wasn't stupid, he just played that up for the public.

obama is of exceptional intelligence and a very effective public speaker.

trump is dumb by presidential standards, but really just average overall.
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« Reply #29353 on: January 30, 2019, 09:19:39 AM »
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« Reply #29354 on: January 30, 2019, 10:06:19 AM »
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« Reply #29355 on: January 30, 2019, 11:19:15 AM »
I'm fairly sure that the water was safe* to drink by that point, and I understand what Obama was doing.

The potential harm from that sort of breach of trust can be much larger than just the initial direct affects. There's reason to believe that knowledge of the Tuskeegee experiments had a lasting effect on the trust black Americans had in doctors (for pretty obvious reasons) and that in turn made them more likely to forego medical care and more likely to die early, have serious problems go untreated, etc. It's a very natural reaction to being fucked over but compounds the problem.

Obama was trying to prevent something like that from developing, as well as a stigma getting attached to the "poisoned" kids. But I absolutely see why some Flint residents would feel like their problems were being minimized or dismissed.


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I think as a democratic president it was probably ok for President Obama to have some well-deserved hostility to the Republican state governor in Flint.

People want a President who fights for them, and imo Obama never did that.

Bernie: The governor needs to resign!
Obama: I probably ate paint chip once, and now I
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« Reply #29356 on: January 30, 2019, 11:54:00 AM »
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« Reply #29357 on: January 30, 2019, 11:58:01 AM »
Nola up in here tryin to pretend like he really mad at President-elect Schultz, not future Detroit Piston Anthony Davis, we see you :hitler
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« Reply #29358 on: January 30, 2019, 12:27:45 PM »
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2018/12/14/2018-27162/request-for-information-on-modifying-hipaa-rules-to-improve-coordinated-care

Embarrassed to just be learning about this. Good call throwing up, "Hey we should be able to talk to anyone about your medical care," for comments during the holidays and a shut down.

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« Reply #29359 on: January 30, 2019, 12:49:11 PM »
I accidentally moused over the bar on the left and the pop-up covered the Office of Civil Rights part, so the whole OCR thing was very very confusing.

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« Reply #29360 on: January 30, 2019, 01:21:21 PM »
Nola up in here tryin to pretend like he really mad at President-elect Schultz, not future Detroit Piston Anthony Davis, we see you :hitler

Honestly, it's a bit of relief and hopefully a wake up call for Gayle.

I've had a sense that the AD era was ultimately botched from the moment we re-signed a disgruntled Gordon and traded away picks and solid cost controlled players for mismatched under achieving veterans on over-inflated contracts.

I know many will say I am lying because no one could of foreseen how investments like a first rounder and 60 mil for the Turkish Hammer would go belly up, but I assure you I was amongst the few.


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« Reply #29361 on: January 30, 2019, 01:30:12 PM »
I just saw this clip for the first time and it’s uttery outrageous:

https://twitter.com/thomasurlatoile/status/1079870178077433858

My opinion of Obama just sank like a rock. You ever wonder how Hillary managed to lose Michigan... now you know.
The most fucked up part was that months later the US miilitary did urban warfare excersises with tanks, helicopters and live fire without alerting the residents in the same area.


I'm fairly sure that the water was safe* to drink by that point, and I understand what Obama was doing.

The potential harm from that sort of breach of trust can be much larger than just the initial direct affects. There's reason to believe that knowledge of the Tuskeegee experiments had a lasting effect on the trust black Americans had in doctors (for pretty obvious reasons) and that in turn made them more likely to forego medical care and more likely to die early, have serious problems go untreated, etc. It's a very natural reaction to being fucked over but compounds the problem.

Obama was trying to prevent something like that from developing, as well as a stigma getting attached to the "poisoned" kids. But I absolutely see why some Flint residents would feel like their problems were being minimized or dismissed.


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*By whatever the conventional standards are. I followed this at the time, and the EPA/Michigan govt. was releasing weekly data on lead concentrations in Flint. IIRC there was still a handful of households with super high lead content that had been identified, but overall the water would pass the test even without filters. But don't quote me cause it's all a bit fuzzy and it's too late for me to google a bunch of pdfs.
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At a different earlier part in the documentary/movie a whistleblower explains how she got fired because she didn't want to falsify the records of children tested for poisoning.
And she had kept the test results of dozens of children who were told: "You're ok!" when in fact they were poisoned. Obama was simply in on the cover up or he didn't know they had rigged the results.
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« Reply #29362 on: January 30, 2019, 01:59:19 PM »
I've had a sense that the AD era was ultimately botched from the moment we re-signed a disgruntled Gordon and traded away picks and solid cost controlled players for mismatched under achieving veterans on over-inflated contracts.
oh man i always forget that one and it's one of my favorites...dude wanted so bad to go to Phoenix, his offer sheet wasn't just for leverage, etc.

i liked the part after when they kept acquiring dudes who would have to play the same positions as him

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« Reply #29363 on: January 30, 2019, 04:03:52 PM »
https://www.axios.com/2020-presidential-election-howard-schultz-democrats-2bf614f2-f59c-4303-8bc5-e832956f3ea4.html
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Furious Democrats hope to pound Starbucks chairman emeritus Howard Schultz into an early departure from his exploration of an independent 2020 bid.

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Jim Messina, Obama's 2012 campaign manager: "He can't win, and he could seriously damage our ability to beat Donald Trump. He should either run as a Democrat, or spend his time and money doing something that won't ruin the world."

Philippe Reines, confidant of Hillary Clinton: "Howard Schultz is a jackass. ... He's arrogant and wealthy — and those people tend to not see the world as it is."

Meanwhile, on Morning Joe:


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« Reply #29364 on: January 30, 2019, 04:06:16 PM »
All this dude has managed to do is further my resolve to continue by Starbucks boycott.

Fuck Starbucks and charging $2.50 for a small cup of burnt bean water.

FYI: 7-11 charges 50 cents for any size coffee if you use your own thermos mug thing.
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« Reply #29365 on: January 30, 2019, 04:10:33 PM »
Schultz is a Reagan fanboy. He says that people need a leader that they trust and admire and he is that because he's an experience business man.
How is he different from Donnie?
Except the weight and new york accent?

 :thinking
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« Reply #29366 on: January 30, 2019, 04:10:57 PM »
 :drudge
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« Reply #29367 on: January 30, 2019, 04:11:38 PM »
Poor people wouldn't know the answer to that question either cuz they ain't out here buying name-brand cheerios, Mika.
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« Reply #29368 on: January 30, 2019, 04:13:02 PM »
how much does a pound bag of TASTY-O's cost?

edit: actually those probably aren't pound bags anymore :lol

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« Reply #29369 on: January 30, 2019, 04:17:23 PM »
Trump knows exactly how to get a McDonalds super saver deal on 300 Hamburgers and he used the coupon collection he saved up his entire adult life to get enough free french fries for everyone attending the feast at the White House.

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« Reply #29370 on: January 30, 2019, 04:20:39 PM »
i can totally see Trump as a dude who does multiple orders to use multiple coupons

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« Reply #29371 on: January 30, 2019, 04:20:41 PM »
how much does a pound bag of TASTY-O's cost?

edit: actually those probably aren't pound bags anymore :lol

Now see, I can tell you're a true man of the people because you know that cheap cereal comes in bags, not boxes.
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« Reply #29372 on: January 30, 2019, 04:22:25 PM »

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« Reply #29373 on: January 30, 2019, 04:26:07 PM »


"Together Grimace, we could own this town"  :thinking
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« Reply #29374 on: January 30, 2019, 04:26:42 PM »
Malt-o-Meal Dude 2020 :american

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« Reply #29375 on: January 30, 2019, 04:44:08 PM »
Trump knows exactly how to get a McDonalds super saver deal on 300 Hamburgers and he used the coupon collection he saved up his entire adult life to get enough free french fries for everyone attending the feast at the White House.

 :american

And now he has fries for months because only the scrubs showed up.

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« Reply #29376 on: January 30, 2019, 04:53:02 PM »
I dont eat sugar circles dipped in sugar cow water and I would have guessed $4.

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« Reply #29377 on: January 30, 2019, 05:12:14 PM »
I would have asked her to clarify which of the five different sizes at the store is the 18oz one.

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« Reply #29379 on: January 30, 2019, 06:01:26 PM »
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/howard-schultz-is-above-the-political-fray-so-high-above-he-usually-doesnt-vote/
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So it wasn’t too surprising to discover that he personally is a practitioner of un-politics. As in: not voting.

State and county election records show that going back to 2005, Schultz has cast a ballot in just 11 of 38 elections.
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He also passed up voting in Seattle municipal elections for mayor and city council most years, including in 2005 — right when he was petitioning City Hall for money to rebuild a basketball arena for the Sonics, which he co-owned. In fact, he sat out all the municipal elections in the period he owned the Sonics — 2001, 2003 and 2005.

He also didn’t vote during an election that featured a measure targeting him. Initiative 91, which passed in Seattle in 2006, sought to bar public subsidies for sports arenas. Schultz had sold the Sonics a few months before the vote, so maybe he didn’t care anymore at that point.

This is all a little awkward, because a couple years ago, when Starbucks rolled out a voter participation drive, Schultz said this: “It’s not just about who will be the next occupant of the White House. More Americans should participate in all elections, even those for city councils and school boards.”
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« Reply #29380 on: January 30, 2019, 06:02:19 PM »
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« Reply #29381 on: January 30, 2019, 06:03:41 PM »
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When will he interview Ben Ghazi


Just a few more and Fox News can hire a Hillary look alike and stage a live war tribunal with all our favorite stars.
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« Reply #29382 on: January 30, 2019, 06:10:33 PM »
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The cause of each company’s troubles may be distinct, but collectively the blood bath points to the same underlying market pathology: the inability of the digital advertising business to make much meaningful room for anyone but monopolistic tech giants.

Coming in a time of economic prosperity, at world-historical levels of interest in the news, last week’s cuts tell a story of impending slow-motion doom — and a democratic emergency in the making, with no end in sight.
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More than anyone else in media, BuzzFeed’s founder, Jonah Peretti, bet on symbioses with the tech platforms. He understood that the tech giants would keep getting bigger, but to him that was a feature, not a bug. By creating content that hooked into their algorithms, he imagined BuzzFeed getting bigger — and making money — along with them.

At the least, the layoffs suggest the tragic folly of Mr. Peretti’s thinking. Google and Facebook have no economic incentive for symbiosis; everything BuzzFeed can do for them can also be done by the online hordes who’ll make content without pay.

So where does that leave media? Bereft.

It is the rare publication that can survive on subscriptions, and the rarer one that will be saved by billionaires. Digital media needs a way to profitably serve the masses. If even BuzzFeed couldn’t hack that, we are well and truly hosed.

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« Reply #29383 on: January 30, 2019, 06:16:35 PM »
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« Reply #29384 on: January 30, 2019, 06:25:52 PM »
I had an ex who worked at a Seattle's Best Coffee (I think long since bought out by Starbucks?).

The largest sized cup and the next size cup down fit the same amount of liquid lol.  There was no guidance to fill them any less or more either,  just one was wider and the other taller.  Theoretically you'd end up with SLIGHTLY less liquid in the wider cup with the same amount of room at the top but it was still pretty wack lol
This is a good scam. :ohhh
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« Reply #29385 on: January 30, 2019, 06:39:44 PM »
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« Reply #29386 on: January 30, 2019, 06:42:54 PM »
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Meanwhile, Ann Coulter, another early Trump believer, has become privately preoccupied with Ocasio-Cortez’s ability to command mass attention, according to a person close to the conservative commentator.

"Terrified is a good word," said the person. "She's terrified of her.” The person recounted a recent conversation with Coulter in which, "She was ranting about, ‘AOC's going to be the next president even if she's not old enough to run.’” Coulter did not respond to emails requesting comment.

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Coulter, for her part, has taken to Twitter to appeal to the congresswoman directly.

“Ocasio-Cortez wants a 70-80% income tax on the rich. I agree! Start with the Koch Bros. — and also make it WEALTH tax,” she tweeted at the beginning of the month. Last week, Coulter followed up by tweeting a report about financier Ken Griffin making the most expensive home purchase in U.S. history, writing, “Attention Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.”

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« Reply #29387 on: January 30, 2019, 07:01:15 PM »
Seems like AOC is way too upbeat and friendly to stay in politics long.
Or once the lobbyists, donors, media, party leadership, gridlocks and hate campaigns have ran a train on her for 8 years, AOC will be as jaded and depressed as the rest.

Watching Obama go from: "I will bring change and peace to our world" to "just drink that poisoned water as a kid I ate paint from walls" and "I drone bombed weddings in Yemen because it was the RESPONSIBLE thing to do" was painful to watch.
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« Reply #29388 on: January 30, 2019, 07:06:06 PM »
have ran a train on her for 8 years
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« Reply #29389 on: January 30, 2019, 07:09:19 PM »
Literally every conservative dude is both horny for and enraged by AOC. Kind of fascinating to watch.

I'm gonna get so much mileage out of this post.

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« Reply #29390 on: January 30, 2019, 07:21:24 PM »
Literally every conservative dude is both horny for and enraged by AOC. Kind of fascinating to watch.

I'm gonna get so much mileage out of this post.

Chapo runs it into the ground, peeps are just going to think you're a Grey Wolf. :'(

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« Reply #29392 on: January 30, 2019, 07:43:04 PM »
Also AOC's voice makes me think she got molested as a young girl  :(


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« Reply #29394 on: January 30, 2019, 08:12:49 PM »
I think it's probs time to start a 2020 election thread. If you let me do the OP I can fill it with dank memes.

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« Reply #29395 on: January 30, 2019, 08:15:10 PM »
Holy shit, I hadn't thought about Smoke Signals in forever.

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« Reply #29396 on: January 30, 2019, 08:27:31 PM »
(((squatter settler apartheid)))  :-[
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« Reply #29397 on: January 30, 2019, 08:50:37 PM »
The only meme allowed in politics is surprised Pikachu
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Kara

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« Reply #29398 on: January 30, 2019, 08:50:38 PM »
Holy shit, I hadn't thought about Smoke Signals in forever.

I want to say it was on Netflix? I watched it again somewhere in the last 4 years.

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« Reply #29399 on: January 30, 2019, 09:02:53 PM »
I think it's probs time to start a 2020 election thread. If you let me do the OP I can fill it with dank memes.
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