Author Topic: US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP (Read 7229441 times)

team filler · « **Reply #36120 on:** June 28, 2019, 02:49:59 AM »

https://twitter.com/SirajAHashmi/status/1144444155680251905

Mandark · « **Reply #36121 on:** June 28, 2019, 02:54:05 AM »

but f'real benji you're being dishonest as an excuse to sneer at people

which is doubly odd cause those two dudes present so many other avenues of attack

team filler · « **Reply #36122 on:** June 28, 2019, 02:56:18 AM »

https://twitter.com/TweetingYarnie/status/1144475772423327744

benjipwns · « **Reply #36123 on:** June 28, 2019, 02:57:59 AM »

https://twitter.com/themaxburns/status/1144437312723591168

there's going to be no candidates left after we learn all the fallout from this debate

agrajag · « **Reply #36124 on:** June 28, 2019, 03:04:35 AM »

https://twitter.com/ellievhall/status/1144447746570641410

Himu · « **Reply #36125 on:** June 28, 2019, 03:14:20 AM »

we don't deserve marianne

benjipwns · « **Reply #36126 on:** June 28, 2019, 03:18:50 AM »

wow Cory was so good he didn't even need the most time to put in the most powerful performance and show true Presidential leadership

Kara · « **Reply #36127 on:** June 28, 2019, 03:22:21 AM »

Marianne Mindset's discourse presence to airtime ratio.

team filler · « **Reply #36128 on:** June 28, 2019, 03:26:10 AM »

https://twitter.com/jakemerci/status/1144504649401061376

team filler · « **Reply #36129 on:** June 28, 2019, 03:28:39 AM »

marianne is just fematra on acid for wine mom's

Momo · « **Reply #36130 on:** June 28, 2019, 03:29:59 AM »

Nintex · « **Reply #36131 on:** June 28, 2019, 03:36:13 AM »

https://twitter.com/MarshallCohen/status/1144473991601541121

The gang is at it again

Kara · « **Reply #36132 on:** June 28, 2019, 03:41:36 AM »

pure alpha

benjipwns · « **Reply #36133 on:** June 28, 2019, 03:56:07 AM »

lmao at the audio of that environment

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that's how they should do the next pair of debates

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Himu · « **Reply #36134 on:** June 28, 2019, 03:59:35 AM »

been putting "tulsi gabbard" in google news every day this week

https://www.salon.com/2019/06/27/tulsi-gabbards-date-with-history-can-aloha-state-oddball-lead-dems-to-reckon-with-war-and-peace/

benjipwns · « **Reply #36135 on:** June 28, 2019, 04:01:25 AM »

https://twitter.com/VectorBelly/status/1144433395239284736

benjipwns · « **Reply #36136 on:** June 28, 2019, 04:13:40 AM »

filler was spotted at a Joe Sestak event in Iowa:
https://twitter.com/MauraBarrettNBC/status/1142960522255577088

Momo · « **Reply #36137 on:** June 28, 2019, 04:16:00 AM »

VomKriege · « **Reply #36138 on:** June 28, 2019, 04:20:04 AM »

Quote from: bluemax on June 28, 2019, 02:34:46 AM

Quote from: benjipwns on June 28, 2019, 02:00:48 AM
Quote from: Cindi Mayweather on June 28, 2019, 01:54:04 AM
I thought he was the guy that owned the anti-virus program or am I thinking of someone else?
He did, but sold his stake way back in 1996. He was nuts back then except he was in the country and invested in computer startups. Now he's deported, fled a murder scene in Belize, technically can't come back to the U.S. and vastly poorer from blowing all his cash on drugs and awful crypto startups. That's why he's the ideal Libertarian nominee imo after the fiasco that was the Gary Johnson campaigns and getting major ballot access in all 50 states.

But he and his wife have the best story. She was a prostitute he solicited, she tried to steal from him, they've been together ever since.

Also raped and threatened to kill a scientist in his employ after she tried to run away from his wacko fake science company. And probably like 500 other atrocities.

That's it, I'm switching to Kaspersky.

benjipwns · « **Reply #36139 on:** June 28, 2019, 04:30:04 AM »

Picture reminds me of the stories about John Kerry's "surprise wins" (and Edwards) in 2004 from the one book I can't remember about how they would stay around and listen to every nut who came to the events and try to tell them something in response, while Gore (when he was "exploring"; also in 2000), Gephardt, Clark, etc. would all do their speech, a bit of Q&A on normal topics and bail out. Kerry would basically zone out (probably thanks to extensive Senate experience) and then offer them some platitude, like there were a ton of 9/11 truthers obviously, and so he'd tell them something like "I most definitely want the 9/11 Commission to finish their investigation." Which was happening anyway and was supposed to be finished before the general election.

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THEN FIVE YEARS LATER HE DINED WITH AL-ASSAD, POSSIBLY PASTA OR SOME KIND OF NOODLES

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benjipwns · « **Reply #36140 on:** June 28, 2019, 05:17:41 AM »

shosta's biggest political inspiration asking the tough questions again: https://www.thedailybeast.com/msnbcs-chris-matthews-asks-kamala-harris-how-do-you-not-hate-white-people

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Ultimately, the interview ended with Matthews asking Harris whether she thinks Biden is “finished after tonight.”

VomKriege · « **Reply #36141 on:** June 28, 2019, 05:19:22 AM »

Quote from: Shosh on June 28, 2019, 05:14:14 AM

because this is america, not some gatekeeping yurofascist shithole like nederland

Says the citizen of a country where only two parties are viable.

benjipwns · « **Reply #36142 on:** June 28, 2019, 05:33:18 AM »

Exactly, US is closer to achieving a true unified workers democracy than pathetic backwards Yurop and Asia, look at the lower legislative houses:
Netherlands - thirteen parties
Belgium - twelve parties
China - nine parties
North Korea - four parties
United States - two parties
Soviet Union - one party

if you don't like The Party you can vote against The Party candidate in the box in the center of the room instead of simply depositing ballot in box

benjipwns · « **Reply #36143 on:** June 28, 2019, 05:38:36 AM »

if any error, Party will correct course like Shosh remove like from benji post after edit, as the crystals foretold

Momo · « **Reply #36144 on:** June 28, 2019, 05:53:55 AM »

Quote from: Shosh on June 28, 2019, 05:23:43 AM

Our parties are so open that we only need two to cover all possibilities, and frankly, we could probably just merge the two and still have the same diversity of candidates. that is how free we are.

lul we have 48 parties competing nationally and a further 31 at the province (state) only level

benjipwns · « **Reply #36145 on:** June 28, 2019, 06:02:19 AM »

Quote from: Momo on June 28, 2019, 05:53:55 AM

lul we have 48 parties competing nationally and a further 31 at the province (state) only level

yeah but thankfully only some of those are viable so it's not all crazy and out of control like Somalia

Momo · « **Reply #36146 on:** June 28, 2019, 06:06:47 AM »

Quote from: Shosh on June 28, 2019, 05:58:00 AM

Quote from: Momo on June 28, 2019, 05:53:55 AM
lul we have 48 parties competing nationally and a further 31 at the province (state) only level
Julius Malema

Tripon · « **Reply #36147 on:** June 28, 2019, 09:12:57 AM »

https://twitter.com/craigcalcaterra/status/1144594219065106433

Tripon · « **Reply #36148 on:** June 28, 2019, 09:16:07 AM »

https://twitter.com/marwilliamson/status/1662705755

kingv · « **Reply #36149 on:** June 28, 2019, 09:20:18 AM »

Quote from: agrajag on June 28, 2019, 02:13:48 AM

I think Bill De Blasio may be more black than Corey Booker.

You should see the mans handshake.

Edit: I have a hard time figuring out if David Brooks or Ross Douthat is worse

benjipwns · « **Reply #36150 on:** June 28, 2019, 09:25:33 AM »

this is some quality Brooks, Mandark is gonna love this

Quote from: David Brooks

Finally, Democrats aren’t making the most compelling moral case against Donald Trump. They are good at pointing to Trump’s cruelties, especially toward immigrants. They are good at describing the ways he is homophobic and racist. But the rest of the moral case against Trump means hitting him from the right as well as the left.

A decent society rests on a bed of manners, habits, traditions and institutions. Trump is a disrupter. He rips to shreds the codes of politeness, decency, honesty and fidelity, and so renders society a savage world of dog eat dog. Democrats spend very little time making this case because defending tradition, manners and civility sometimes cuts against the modern progressive temper.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #36151 on:** June 28, 2019, 09:28:52 AM »

Quote from: Tripon on June 28, 2019, 09:12:57 AM

https://twitter.com/craigcalcaterra/status/1144594219065106433

Wow, when you've even lost David Brooks you know you're in trouble.

benjipwns · « **Reply #36152 on:** June 28, 2019, 09:30:14 AM »

lmao at the NYTPicks comments, there's over a thousand total comments and they could only find like four that remotely agree with him, all the rest are shitting on him in some way, I've never seen a ratio like that on those as they usually try to pick out a fairly even chunk and won't pick the vulgar ones

Tasty · « **Reply #36153 on:** June 28, 2019, 09:41:52 AM »

How accurate is this Voxsplanation of the 2012 fiscal cliff thing?

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/6/28/18955310/democratic-debate-2019-biden-bennet

benjipwns · « **Reply #36154 on:** June 28, 2019, 09:47:59 AM »

Quote from: Tasty Meat on June 28, 2019, 09:29:52 AM

How accurate is this Voxsplanation of the 2012 fiscal cliff thing?

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/6/28/18955310/democratic-debate-2019-biden-bennet

Yeah, they agreed to extend the expiring tax rates except for the very tippy top. They didn't want them to go up on everyone in their election year when they could punt it.

The Atlantic just put out a similar story of Obama handing things to Biden on Iraq: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/06/joe-bidens-iraq-decisions-haunt-him-2020/592669/

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How much of all this should Biden shoulder? That question remains a subject of debate among those who worked at senior levels of the U.S. government with him. It centers on whether, in his push to finally right the wrongs of the 2003 invasion, he was blinded to the risks of the next great American blunder in the country.

...

Robert Ford, who was deputy U.S. ambassador to Iraq from 2008 to 2010, put his view more starkly. “The Iraqis were extremely aware that the Americans wanted Maliki and, oddly enough, they were also aware that the Iranians wanted Maliki,” he told me. “Once the decision is made—and that’s Biden—then the rest of the machine moves forward. The embassy, the CIA, the military—everybody is poised to move in that direction.”

Biden’s position, in part, stemmed from Washington’s urgent need to settle the question of whether U.S. troops and advisers would remain in Iraq after America’s formal withdrawal. “They just wanted it resolved one way or another, and they couldn’t negotiate, because there was no government,” Ford told me. “I think that was a domestic issue for the Obama administration.”

The campaigns are definitely trying to disconnect Biden from Obama and make him to blame for all the bad things and leave Obama pristine. Shades of JFK/LBJ, Reagan/Bush, etc.

benjipwns · « **Reply #36155 on:** June 28, 2019, 09:49:58 AM »

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The Supreme Court will hear arguments over the administration's termination of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, the court announced Friday. At stake are protections that allow 669,000 so-called "dreamers" to live and work in the United States legally.

perfect, just in time for the general election

Tasty · « **Reply #36156 on:** June 28, 2019, 09:50:32 AM »

Quote from: Esch on June 28, 2019, 12:21:07 AM

so why did people like Andrew Yang again? The memes? The idea that ubi would work? His goofy eagerness? Technofetishist solutions to entrenched social rifts?

Neets and some T_D converts who like UBI and think they can meme anything into existence.

Tasty · « **Reply #36157 on:** June 28, 2019, 09:53:49 AM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on June 28, 2019, 12:31:00 AM

Also a stunning lack of talk about trade and china when the Midwest holds the key to democrats beating Trump. Not immigration. Republicans got destroyed throughout the Midwest during the midterms last year. Since then there has been next to no debate or talk about tariffs and what they're doing to the economy.

Honestly is it bad I kinda wish the social issues would be set aside for now? What matters is getting elected, and democrats absolutely aren't focusing enough on the economic issues most voters care about.

Healthcare is the other one, which is getting talked about thankfully, but that's going to be a crapshoot for a while...

marrec · « **Reply #36158 on:** June 28, 2019, 09:55:08 AM »

Quote from: Tasty Meat on June 28, 2019, 09:41:52 AM

How accurate is this Voxsplanation of the 2012 fiscal cliff thing?

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/6/28/18955310/democratic-debate-2019-biden-bennet

Your accidental post drew me here, it's easy for Yglesias to put on his hindsight glasses and muse about what could have been had we careened off the fiscal cliff, but if you were legislating or being on the fed reserve in 2012 there was an extremely real danger that allowing the tax cuts to expire would drive the weak but recovering economy back into recession. So legislators came up with a compromise deal that nobody liked but would be less of a shock to the economy. It wasn't a bad deal it just didn't give either side the touchdown they wanted. The real fuck up was 2 months later when they allowed sequestration to go into effect.

Tasty · « **Reply #36159 on:** June 28, 2019, 10:04:45 AM »

That's kinda what I figured, especially when he started interjecting his own viewpoint into things.

Tasty · « **Reply #36160 on:** June 28, 2019, 10:11:33 AM »

Quote from: Mandark on June 28, 2019, 01:01:13 AM

Quote from: Cindi Mayweather on June 28, 2019, 12:46:38 AM
I’ve long categorized msnbc as the Fox News for Democrats. Am I wrong about that?

I don't watch either so I can't really speak to the product, but from the corporate side MSNBC were very reluctant to be seen as a liberal news channel and sort of stumbled backwards into it, while Roger Ailes was always trying to build a rightwing message machine.

Also my beef with Fox News goes beyond strictly party politics. Over the years they've done a lot to make Americans, especially older ones who tend to be isolated, terrified of the world around them, sort of like local news that's 90% crime coverage but with a more explicitly racist/xenophobic agenda. Maddow's apparently been pushing the Russia stuff really hard but I'm skeptical it's quite as harmful in that way.

An external threat is always a better distraction. If people stop starting literal armed insurrections in state legislatures (Oregon) and trying to shoot up pizza parlors, then domestically we're better off.

Nuts always need something to focus on. 80s and before had the cold war and Ruskies, post-9/11 it was the middle east as a whole ('cept Israel cause we BFFs or whatever.) Now that everyone's sick of being over there, it's not surprising that these fringe types are getting antsy and directing their attention to what's around them.

Tripon · « **Reply #36161 on:** June 28, 2019, 10:12:06 AM »

https://twitter.com/AndrewYang/status/1144551813582135296
https://twitter.com/AndrewYang/status/1144557009376862209
https://twitter.com/AndrewYang/status/1144559215014481920

https://twitter.com/thejd800/status/1144461995892080640

Himu · « **Reply #36162 on:** June 28, 2019, 10:27:52 AM »

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Finally, Democrats aren’t making the most compelling moral case against Donald Trump. They are good at pointing to Trump’s cruelties

What

toku · « **Reply #36163 on:** June 28, 2019, 10:37:06 AM »

https://twitter.com/BoxrecGrey/status/1144495391221485568

Tasty · « **Reply #36164 on:** June 28, 2019, 10:54:46 AM »

Politico: "Trump officials weigh encryption crackdown"

Consider donating to the EFF today: https://supporters.eff.org/donate/join-eff-today

benjipwns · « **Reply #36165 on:** June 28, 2019, 10:55:58 AM »

they're my Humble Bundle charity

Tripon · « **Reply #36166 on:** June 28, 2019, 11:22:41 AM »

https://twitter.com/keithellison/status/1144625368395145216

Kara · « **Reply #36167 on:** June 28, 2019, 11:26:51 AM »

Quote from: Momo on June 28, 2019, 06:06:47 AM

Quote from: Shosh on June 28, 2019, 05:58:00 AM
Quote from: Momo on June 28, 2019, 05:53:55 AM
lul we have 48 parties competing nationally and a further 31 at the province (state) only level
Julius Malema

the way he handles that question from the white guy

james · « **Reply #36168 on:** June 28, 2019, 11:59:44 AM »

Poll prediction:

Biden -5
Bernie -2
Beto -1
Gilly -1

Harris +4
Pete + 2
Marrianne +2
Booker +1

Himu · « **Reply #36169 on:** June 28, 2019, 12:02:36 PM »

https://twitter.com/cnn/status/1144427634572582914

Yikes

Also

at CNN not going into full war mode on Bernie

benjipwns · « **Reply #36170 on:** June 28, 2019, 12:07:56 PM »

Quote from: james on June 28, 2019, 11:59:44 AM

Poll prediction:
Gilly -1

No matter how much you may wish, polling can't go negative, james.

Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #36171 on:** June 28, 2019, 12:12:11 PM »

Quote from: Cindi Mayweather on June 28, 2019, 12:02:36 PM

https://twitter.com/cnn/status/1144427634572582914

Yikes

Also at CNN not going into full war mode on Bernie

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What bernie didn't mention is that he's one of them![/quote]

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TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #36172 on:** June 28, 2019, 12:13:50 PM »

Do we think Sherrod Brown is the inevitable VP pick?

james · « **Reply #36173 on:** June 28, 2019, 12:22:15 PM »

Quote from: benjipwns on June 28, 2019, 12:07:56 PM

Quote from: james on June 28, 2019, 11:59:44 AM
Poll prediction:
Gilly -1
No matter how much you may wish, polling can't go negative, james.

I am working as hard as I can to make it happen. Believe in me Benji

benjipwns · « **Reply #36174 on:** June 28, 2019, 12:31:26 PM »

Well, okay, but I mean we're up against some mathematical and physical laws here not the kind of laws Cory Booker is a master of changing.

agrajag · « **Reply #36175 on:** June 28, 2019, 12:42:22 PM »

https://twitter.com/guybranum/status/1144419886606610432

Tasty · « **Reply #36176 on:** June 28, 2019, 12:46:07 PM »

Quote from: Esch on June 28, 2019, 09:22:13 AM

I'm always imagining Andy kun fuming during these debates, rolling his eyes as he hears MILLIONAIHS AND BILLIONAIHS, exasperatedly saying "answer the question!!!" at the tv.

Sanders was honestly one of the easiest to listen to during this whole shindig.

He's Warren without the plans; in that light, I don't dislike him.

agrajag · « **Reply #36177 on:** June 28, 2019, 12:47:44 PM »

Tasty · « **Reply #36178 on:** June 28, 2019, 12:48:21 PM »

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #36179 on:** June 28, 2019, 12:51:32 PM »

Quote from: agrajag on June 28, 2019, 12:42:22 PM

https://twitter.com/guybranum/status/1144419886606610432

Can't be worse than what we've already got.

News:

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