US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP

[Mandark]

Not all libertarians are pedophiles, but all pedophiles are libertarians.


Wait.

All libertarians are pedophiles, and all pedophiles are libertarians.

Okay first of all being a voluntaryist isn't the same as being a libertarian and second of all hebephilia and ephebophilia are biologically natural and have long historical roots and are not the same as pedolphilia, furthermore...  *sound of getting stomped out by neighbor over poor lawn-care habits*

[Kara]

If there's one thing the Democratic Party has as a distinct difference it's selling irrational fears to the participating electorate.

[agrajag]

all you gun nuts should take this discussion to Cindi's gun nut thread

[Himu]

Cyndi why not libertarianism? You sound like you're basically there

I don't really care about labels anymore. Labels are precisely why we are in this political predicament where people are contrarians just because "the other side" said it/did it. This is why Democrats suddenly stopped giving a shit about the Iraq war and drones when Obama was president and made excuses, because he was on their "team". My first lesson in partisanship - that people are fake mother fuckers and prop issues only because the "other side" opposes it, not actually giving a fuck about the actual issue, in this case the loss of innocent lives abroad. That is also why Republicans are sucking Trump's dick despite him setting a far worse example for gun rights than Obama ever did. Psst, racism combined with partisanship. Censorship, authoritarianism, fascism are the real enemy. If you care about the common people in a legitimate way, I'll vote for you.

Also, American libertarians run around half naked at their conventions.

Now, if you mean left libertarian, mmm. Maybe. But unfortunately conservatives have hijacked the term and have decided liberty actually means liberty for businesses and money to do whatever they want > liberty for the common people. So that's a non-starter and not me at all. But hey, maybe the libertarian party unfucks itself and shifts towards european libertarian-ism in my life time.

But until then, no sides.

[agrajag]

https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1149419352527126528

Seb Gorka complaining to the President about people crank calling his radio show sure is something.

[Himu]

all you gun nuts should take this discussion to Cindi's gun nut thread

I didn't even bring up guns.

KingV had to be a dick because someone out there disagrees with him on firearms, and brings up my gun views when I'm talking about fucking reparations.

Blame him for being an asshole.

[Joe Molotov]

If there's one thing the Democratic Party has as a distinct difference it's selling irrational fears to the participating electorate.

Luckily they stopped because of 9/11. I don't remember there being any fearmongering after that.

[Himu]

If there's one thing the Democratic Party has as a distinct difference it's selling irrational fears to the participating electorate.

Luckily they stopped because of 9/11. I don't remember there being any fearmongering after that.

There it was more of a bipartisan deal.

[Mandark]

I didn't even bring up guns.

KingV had to be a dick because someone out there disagrees with him on firearms, and brings up my gun views when I'm talking about fucking reparations.

Blame him for being an asshole.

Honestly it was light banter and IMO "40 acres and a rocket launcher" would be a pretty dope summary of your personal brand.

[Joe Molotov]

If there's one thing the Democratic Party has as a distinct difference it's selling irrational fears to the participating electorate.

Luckily they stopped because of 9/11. I don't remember there being any fearmongering after that.

There it was more of a bipartisan deal.

But you think it was specifically Democrats that were against violent videogames and heavy metal?

[benjipwns]

Luckily they stopped because of 9/11. I don't remember there being any fearmongering after that.

You forget the time when that CNN dude pulled a Gatorade bottle out of the Shampoo aisle: http://www.cc.com/video-clips/533imz/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-fear-watch

[Nintex]

LMAO
https://twitter.com/AlbertoMiguelF5/status/1149383745067257858

This is lit
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1149417967177883650

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1149421136737951744

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1149415408262426624

 

[Kara]

"40 acres and a rocket launcher" is my Maoist-Third Worldist slogan if no one is going to claim it.

[Himu]

I didn't even bring up guns.

KingV had to be a dick because someone out there disagrees with him on firearms, and brings up my gun views when I'm talking about fucking reparations.

Blame him for being an asshole.

Honestly it was light banter and IMO "40 acres and a rocket launcher" would be a pretty dope summary of your personal brand.

Well if it was a light jab, I apologize to Kingv.

If there's one thing the Democratic Party has as a distinct difference it's selling irrational fears to the participating electorate.

Luckily they stopped because of 9/11. I don't remember there being any fearmongering after that.

There it was more of a bipartisan deal.

But you think it was specifically Democrats that were against violent videogames and heavy metal?

Maybe, but they were Democratic led and were often the spokesmen and women.

Gore and Hillary both spearheaded their own campaigns for censorship.

[Himu]

Lots of D's here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Entertainment_Protection_Act

[Tripon]

Not all libertarians are pedophiles, but all pedophiles are libertarians.


Wait.

All libertarians are pedophiles, and all pedophiles are libertarians.

Explain Amir0x.   

[Himu]

What were Amirox's politics even?

[Tripon]

What were Amirox's politics even?

Huge Hillary stan.

Edit: After Trump won, dude was retweeting every single 'resistance' tweet he could.

[Nintex]

Amirox was an Epstein Democrat 

[Himu]

If there's one thing the Democratic Party has as a distinct difference it's selling irrational fears to the participating electorate.

Not sure if this is sarcasm and way to express that Republicans also sell fear.

I guess selling fear and wanting a scared populace is the cornerstone of American politics. Since I'm American I have no idea if that's different outside of it.

[Mandark]

Not sure if this is sarcasm

it is the most obvious sarcasm on the planet

[Tripon]

The Trump administration is dropping its efforts to include a citizenship question on the 2020 census following a Supreme Court ruling, President Donald Trump will announce Thursday afternoon, a senior administration official confirmed.

Instead, the president is expected to direct his administration to obtain citizenship data through other means. The move caps more than a week of conflicting messages from the White House over how it would proceed on the issue after the Supreme Court blocked the Trump administration from including the citizenship question on the decennial form.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/11/trump-expected-to-take-executive-action-to-add-citizenship-question-to-census-1405893

Trump got cucked. 

[Dickie Dee]

The Trump administration is dropping its efforts to include a citizenship question on the 2020 census following a Supreme Court ruling, President Donald Trump will announce Thursday afternoon, a senior administration official confirmed.

Instead, the president is expected to direct his administration to obtain citizenship data through other means. The move caps more than a week of conflicting messages from the White House over how it would proceed on the issue after the Supreme Court blocked the Trump administration from including the citizenship question on the decennial form.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/11/trump-expected-to-take-executive-action-to-add-citizenship-question-to-census-1405893

Trump got made into a giant dad. 

Funny that the summary in the URL express the polar opposite policy of what's in the article because it was written in the morning and the story was updated in the afternoon.

Stable policy making genius!

[curly]

https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1149433205247959042

“You’re in many cases getting the honest word out,” Trump told the invitees. “Not in all cases, but in many cases”

Even Trump couldn't bring himself to give them a full endorsement

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/NBCPolitics/status/1149423824032677890

Warren in 2nd place behind Biden.

 

[agrajag]

Beto's hanging in there 

[Nintex]

I cannot believe that after his debate 'performance' Yang is still in this.

My guess is that he waits for all the others to drop out so he becomes 2nd or 3rd by default. 

[Himu]

Poor Tulsi deserves to be there more than Beto and Yang.

If it comes to Joe and Warren, I’ll vote for them. Rooting for Sanders though.

[EightBitNate]

What does a Buttigieg supporter even look like

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/EamonJavers/status/1149437818495807488
 

[Occam]

What's the origin of this incredible fecklessness of the Democrats? It's like they are completely incapable of understanding their opponents. None of this makes any sense.

It's like all of this is a farce. The people who really decide what happens are the American oligarchs in the background while all we get to see is a stupid show written by hacks to distract us.

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/AdamParkhomenko/status/1149439650399997952

Ah yes, Seb Gorka. Hard to believe he actually worked at the White House once. 

[Tasty]

Well if it was a light jab, I apologize to Kingv.

Umm... might be good next time to start here, and then jump to 11 later on, instead of vice-versa...

[Himu]

Well if it was a light jab, I apologize to Kingv.

Umm... might be good next time to start here, and then jump to 11 later on, instead of vice-versa...

Nah. His Wikipedia post deserved getting exposed.

[Himu]

What does a Buttigieg supporter even look like

Neolib wonk dadism combined with waxing poetically for classic Obama public speeches

So PhoenixDark I guess.

Ahhh sounds appealing and refreshing.

[Kara]

Read that as "wonk Dadaism" and let's just say that my kind went places.

[kingv]

Well if it was a light jab, I apologize to Kingv.

Umm... might be good next time to start here, and then jump to 11 later on, instead of vice-versa...

It’s really not a big deal. I honestly didn’t mean to start s gun control discussion though.

I apologize to Cindi if I rubbed her the wrong way

[Trurl]

There's more than one?

[Himu]

nate silver: former darling, everyone found out he was a libertarian. now seemingly only pops up to post about sports, statistical coverage of dem field candidates and telling people to die in a fire

Wait. Tell me more. I thought Nate Silver lost popularity because of the 2016 election despite him putting Trump over Hillary more than anyone else.

[agrajag]

he's been inserting more and more opinion in his data analysis, and it has been, well, not good

[Mandark]

If we're keeping it a buck, a lot of the backlash to Silver comes from his pessimism towards Bernie.

[Great Rumbler]

Nate Silver is a pedophile?

Worse: a centrist.

[Tripon]

Larry Kudlow wants to have a dinner date with AOC to talk supply side economics. 

[agrajag]

If we're keeping it a buck, a lot of the backlash to Silver comes from his pessimism towards Bernie.

yeah, similar to the backlash to you

Larry Kudlow wants to have a dinner date with AOC to talk supply side economics. 

get in line, creep!

 

[Tripon]

There's more than one?

nate silver: former darling, everyone found out he was a libertarian. now seemingly only pops up to post about sports, statistical coverage of dem field candidates and telling people to die in a fire

If you listen to the 538 podcasts, all he does now is try to trash all the leftists podcasts (AKA, any podcast that isn't 538 or Pod Save America) and try to explain why all the polls pushing Warren and Bernie are bad polling. Its kind of amazing at the unskewing he's doing this election cycle. Maybe I didn't attention to it before. I do get a kick that his employees are tired and terrified that their boss has lost it and it's playing out in real time.

[Himu]

factcheque: he said he was 'between a liberal and a libertarian', so you might actually fuck with him now cyndi

STOP PIGEONHOLING ME

pidgeons were meant to fly

Also, how liberal? JFK liberal? Or Obama "liberal"?

[agrajag]

I feel like Tripon is my closest ally in this thread.

#SederForLibertariamPresident2020

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1149144277026521089
https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1149316454963208193

[Mandark]

I think people just want him to stay neutral stats guy, when he's not that guy and doesn't want to be. I like when he retweets that @ne0liberal twitter account and people get mad as hell.

Nah, people get upset hearing negative shit about their fave, whether it's in the form of C- amateur punditry or fairly rigorous poll aggregation.

I can't pretend Twitter Dems are that much saner than Dean Chambers. We've already had posters in this thread unskewing polls.

[Himu]

"Hard to think of another candidate besides Bernie who had so little strategy for expanding his coalition beyond his hardcore base, which looks to be no more than 15% of the electorate."

Nate isn't wrong. Bernie is using the same talking points as 2016.

[agrajag]

Right, right because everything he talked about in 2016 improved, so there's no reason to talk about it anymore. He should just make up some new shit.

[Himu]

Didn't say that. But he's done nothing to expand his base from what I've seen and his limited appeal is why he lost in 2016. I say this as someone rooting for Bernie. Don't take every criticism aimed at him as an attack.

[kingv]

There's more than one?

ezra klein: seems to getting more and more scared with every passing day. perpetually devastated. 50/50 chance of some sort of nervous breakdown in the next 5 years when trump gets reelected

matty yglesias: so tired of being called a neoliberal shill he's adopted it in his twitter bio. bitter, sarcastic, and sad. knows facts don't matter, but keeps posting graphs in solidarity. listens to blink-182 as a fully grown man.

tom nichols: never trumper, lowkey misses the iran contra days, sees bernie sanders as a potentially worse outcome, tells you why Everyone Needs to Watch Chernobyl Now

nate silver: former darling, everyone found out he was a libertarian. now seemingly only pops up to post about sports, statistical coverage of dem field candidates and telling people to die in a fire

maddow: russiagate has done unspeakable things to this woman. hope she gets well soon.

chris hayes: slowly started disintegrating when parents and children got separated, and his mask is peeling off. has to stop himself from quoting althusser in public.

Kinda forgot to mention how Tom Nichols wrongs his hands about how democrats are not republicans, and likes fallout. Also complains about feet. A lot.

[Mandark]

"Hard to think of another candidate besides Bernie who had so little strategy for expanding his coalition beyond his hardcore base, which looks to be no more than 15% of the electorate."

Nate isn't wrong. Bernie is using the same talking points as 2016.

Right, right because everything he talked about in 2016 improved, so there's no reason to talk about it anymore. He should just make up some new shit.

https://twitter.com/kept_simple/status/1086370866814963713

[agrajag]

Didn't say that. But he's done nothing to expand his base from what I've seen and his limited appeal is why he lost in 2016. I say this as someone rooting for Bernie. Don't take every criticism aimed at him as an attack.

He already shifted the Overton window to the point that almost every Dem candidate sans complete shitheels like Biden, Hickenlooper, Delaney, etc. is coopting his pet issues which were called radical in 2016. What more do you want? Everything he spoke about for the past several decades is more relevant than ever. What would you like him to talk about?

[Tripon]

I want to give Nate Silver one of those tier maker charts.

Just look at this.



mmcafe da GOAT.

[agrajag]

  

[Himu]

I want to give Nate Silver one of those tier maker charts.

Just look at this.

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mmcafe da GOAT.

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Nate Silver vs Justin Wong.

[agrajag]

Hayes is the most progressive talking head on MSNBC

[Himu]

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Nah, people get upset hearing negative shit about their fave, whether it's in the form of C- amateur punditry or fairly rigorous poll aggregation.

I can't pretend Twitter Dems are that much saner than Dean Chambers. We've already had posters in this thread unskewing polls.

You know what, I was going to silently disagree with you but I have to say you are right. Sanders fans are fucking unbearable in their eternal quest for mild socdem grandpa. They are as rigid and uncompromising as any politruk or red guard battling countterrevolution, with none of the (situational) authority. they take any preference or acknowledgment of a candidate that isn't daddy harder, more personally than any single american political bloc i remember seeing in my lifetime since the Paulites. I have to say, they (almost) make me hate him.

Are you tankie? :lupe