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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50520 on: February 23, 2020, 12:04:04 AM »

benjipwns

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50521 on: February 23, 2020, 12:08:38 AM »
I forget the exact amount but it's non-trivial that voters are shown to support candidates they believe will win even when disagreeing or disliking the candidate. It then becomes self-fulfilling in primary like setups where multiple elections are happening quickly after one another.

*triggers John Kerry flashbacks in Mandark*

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kingv

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50524 on: February 23, 2020, 12:22:50 AM »
I forget the exact amount but it's non-trivial that voters are shown to support candidates they believe will win even when disagreeing or disliking the candidate. It then becomes self-fulfilling in primary like setups where multiple elections are happening quickly after one another.

*triggers John Kerry flashbacks in Mandark*

One of the most interesting lectures I ever had in college was on voting theory. It was super irrelevant to the class (networking engineering) but the prof just seemed to really like talking about it.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50525 on: February 23, 2020, 12:25:33 AM »
From here I think Sanders just gets on a roll. I don't think there's nearly as much resistance to him within the party as pundits or social media addicts would imagine, and if people are seeing you throw a victory party every week they're liable to just jump on board.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50526 on: February 23, 2020, 12:28:58 AM »
anyway I do actually get triggered every time (even though I have him on ignore!) timu says that Yang had an "inferior version of UBI". instead of everyone having a statutory, birthright share of the surplus product, he prefers bernie's plan to create make-work like leaf blowers or those walmart greeters and pay them $15/hr for it. that's interesting. retarded, but interesting.

You're getting a like for reminding me to remove super ignore now that the riff raff is gone.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50527 on: February 23, 2020, 12:30:13 AM »
Hi

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50528 on: February 23, 2020, 12:41:42 AM »
Bernie's explanation for preferring a jobs guarantee to UBI was very similar to a point Bloomberg made in that video which got sampled for a bunch of "check out this asshole!" tweets. Dignity of work etc. etc.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50529 on: February 23, 2020, 12:45:19 AM »
Bernie just applies that old RUSSIAN COMMUNIST principle:
In the U.S.S.R. work is a duty and a matter of honor for every able-bodied citizen, in accordance with the principle: "He who does not work, neither shall he eat."

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50530 on: February 23, 2020, 12:45:49 AM »
I think of you and your dad whenever I see this meme :heart
Feel like the average voter is uninformed and this is just a popularity contest.

shonsta sr. was watching Klobberchar speak and said "you know what, I like her. Bernie should make her vice president"

klob spanking pence and telling him to call her mother too on debate :noah

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50531 on: February 23, 2020, 12:52:20 AM »
Esch, which book would you recommend he read?

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50532 on: February 23, 2020, 12:56:23 AM »
From Titanfall 2, a sign:

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50534 on: February 23, 2020, 01:03:55 AM »
Esch, which book would you recommend he read?

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I think these would be cool for TIMU.

https://www.introducingbooks.com/

Very readable and the kindle versions of them are free with a Prime membership on amazon. They're super high level but have nice drawings and probably have less dumb shit than wiki pages? I like them anyway.

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settlers seems to play better with disillusioned v ox.com neolibs
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This isn't a People's History of the United States by Howard Zinn.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50535 on: February 23, 2020, 01:09:26 AM »
D A D D Y  B E R N I E

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50536 on: February 23, 2020, 01:09:56 AM »
the kindle versions of them are free with a Prime membership on amazon
They don't seem to be anymore, some are Kindle Unlimited.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50537 on: February 23, 2020, 01:13:42 AM »
Last time there was a campaign to make a poster read a book, it was me bullying Assimilate (pbuh) to buy Maps of Meaning. I think that was some of my favorite posting work.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50538 on: February 23, 2020, 01:19:09 AM »
why are you guys trying to turn TIMU alt-right?


benjipwns

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50539 on: February 23, 2020, 01:24:52 AM »
here's a site with some good free books:
https://www.freedomain.com/books/

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benjipwns

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50540 on: February 23, 2020, 01:27:36 AM »
Well, that one does for me too, the three I clicked on all didn't. Thankfully from that page you can see all the ones that are free on Prime.

edit: one for the whole family: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KFEK05Q
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What makes philosophy on the continent of Europe so different and exciting? And why does it have such a reputation for being 'difficult'?

Continental philosophy was initiated amid the revolutionary ferment of the 18th century, philosophers such as Kant and Hegel confronting the extremism of the time with theories that challenged the very formation of individual and social consciousness.

Covering the great philosophers of the modern and postmodern eras – from Nietzsche, Heidegger, Derrida and Deleuze right to up Agamben and Žižek – and philosophical movements from German idealism to deconstruction and feminism – Christopher Kul-Want and Piero brilliantly elucidate some of the most thrilling and powerful ideas ever to have been discussed.

edit2: wait, wait, now ones I clicked on before (political philosophy, game theory) are showing up as available with Prime, maybe the links on the site are outdated and you just have to browse them on Amazon
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50541 on: February 23, 2020, 01:28:10 AM »
here's a site with some good free books:
https://www.freedomain.com/books/

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Essential Philosophy

How do we know what is real?
How do we know what is true?
How do we know what is right?
How do we know what is good?
How do we know we even have a choice?
How do we convince others?

There is no need for confusion, there is no need for despair, there is no need for fear – pick up this book now, absorb the true power of philosophy, and live a rational moral life to the fullest.

Sounds like all you need, wow, how convenient!

benjipwns

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50542 on: February 23, 2020, 01:31:27 AM »
The Chomsky book has some very disappointed reviews because it's about his linguistics. :lol

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2.0 out of 5 stars a VERY dissapointing introduction
Reviewed in the United States on July 27, 2004
Format: Paperback
I have always been interested in these "introducing" books. at first, I just thought that they were for old philosophers and psychologists. I had always wondered if there would be one of these books with chomsky... then I found it! i couldn't wait to read it. what a fool I was. for almost the entire book, its about chomsky on linguistics which, by the way, MADE NO SENSE AT ALL!!!!! it was just so confusing, which was the whole point of making an introduction in the first place! then when thats FINALLY over they suposedly "go over his political views" which is HAVE AS LONG AS THE OTHER PART!!! it only 46 PAGES!!! and it still doesn't explain anything! oh well, at least theres "chomsky for beginners" they do the same thing as the "introducing" series but I've looked over this one and it does look A LOT better. the back of the cover explained more than this entire book!!!

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50543 on: February 23, 2020, 01:34:24 AM »
Guess he's no cunning linguistic.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50544 on: February 23, 2020, 01:35:59 AM »
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1.0 out of 5 stars Extreme Communist Bias
Reviewed in the United States on September 11, 2018
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This book was written by a literal communist who’s bias makes this book more of an opinion piece. The author is Stuart Hood who was a member of multiple Communist parties in the UK, which accounts for his extreme hate for the Right in this book. I would not recommend this book at all if you want a non bias account of fascism.
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benjipwns

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50545 on: February 23, 2020, 01:37:59 AM »
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1.0 out of 5 stars What?
Reviewed in the United States on May 25, 2019
Format: Kindle Edition
Nowhere in this “book” is there an explanation or attempt to explain what deconstruction is. Pointless, cryptic and poorly written. I still want to know what deconstruction is, I’ll have to find another book.
sounds like the Derrida book is perfect

benjipwns

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50546 on: February 23, 2020, 02:02:44 AM »
anybody notice anything in this ad/speech :teehee


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« Reply #50547 on: February 23, 2020, 02:03:03 AM »
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Continental philosophy was initiated amid the revolutionary ferment of the 18th century, [with] philosophers such as Kant and Hegel

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50548 on: February 23, 2020, 02:04:33 AM »
"It won't work- Mike Bloomberg for President" might be the most self-aware campaign slogan i've ever heard.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50551 on: February 23, 2020, 02:32:56 AM »
God, I've found newfound disdain for these people. As the saying goes:


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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50553 on: February 23, 2020, 02:52:28 AM »
Also a reflection of all the wages they don’t pay their people, and their complete disregard for international copyright law :pimp
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50554 on: February 23, 2020, 02:58:49 AM »
copyright laws are for betaaaaaaaaaaas  :karen
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50555 on: February 23, 2020, 03:00:59 AM »
Good countries copy, great countries steal

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50556 on: February 23, 2020, 03:10:30 AM »
Good countries copy, great countries steal
does australia have a bernie?
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50557 on: February 23, 2020, 03:21:59 AM »
Our politicians are too boring to be analogous to US politicians.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50558 on: February 23, 2020, 03:41:45 AM »
Good countries copy, great countries steal

Try stealing good jokes for a change :teehee
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50559 on: February 23, 2020, 03:49:47 AM »
I used to steal jokes. I still do, but I used to, too

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50560 on: February 23, 2020, 04:38:14 AM »
Has Hilldawg poured her salt yet? :hyper

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50561 on: February 23, 2020, 05:43:48 AM »
https://twitter.com/joncoopertweets/status/1231080647625715713

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https://twitter.com/fred_guttenberg/status/1231214181304688640

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I want change back to the pragmatic middle

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Guttenberg is a millionaire who owns 20 Dunkin Donuts locations. He only gives a shit about gun control because his kid was murdered. He doesn’t give a fuck about anything or anyone outside of his immediate sphere.

Jon Cooper is establishment hack drone #38477383.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50562 on: February 23, 2020, 06:34:31 AM »
srs question because i cant remember: how long into the primary did it take til fox warmed up to trump?
Fox never really warmed to Trump outside of his friends like Hannity during the primary or even the election.
They were more nervous than happy when he started to win.

The exit poll looked terrible for Trump and Fox News started preparing viewers that the Republicans might lose Georgia.

Prior to voting day the election wasn't even considered a close race. The odds were 99 to 1 in favor of Clinton.
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50564 on: February 23, 2020, 08:24:18 AM »
https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1231566722106159104

India preparing for the big rally  8)
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50565 on: February 23, 2020, 08:51:22 AM »
shosta is a terrible flirt fyi


Nah he’s pretty okay I’ve seen it


Edit to clarify: he’s definitely engaging, and that’s a big part of what counts in flirting

Did you let him smash?
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50567 on: February 23, 2020, 10:19:23 AM »
i don't get with the obsession on twitter/foums demanding everyone drop out. super tuesday isn't for a week and all these dopes staying is the best possible situation for bernie. if you are rooting for him why not hope for every one of these moderate types to stay in and split the vote up?

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50568 on: February 23, 2020, 10:28:24 AM »
i don't get with the obsession on twitter/foums demanding everyone drop out. super tuesday isn't for a week and all these dopes staying is the best possible situation for bernie. if you are rooting for him why not hope for every one of these moderate types to stay in and split the vote up?

I think their main argument is one of delegates. But Bernie is leading there too.
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50569 on: February 23, 2020, 10:43:23 AM »
This Killer Mike and T.I. tag team is life.



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e: candance owen trying to pull that democrat plantation shit on killer mike. :lol
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50571 on: February 23, 2020, 11:51:19 AM »
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Pete Buttigieg’s campaign is claiming there are inconsistencies in the reported results in Nevada, as the former South Bend (Ind.) mayor tries to claw his way to second place in Saturday's caucuses.

In a letter sent to Nevada state Democratic Party chair William McCurdy II and obtained by POLITICO, Buttigieg’s campaign is calling for the state party to publicly release a tranche of data and recalculate some precincts.

“In light of material irregularities pertaining to the process of integrating early votes into the in-person precinct caucus results, we request that you” release early and in-person votes, correct “errors identified by presidential campaigns” and “explain anomalies in the data,” Buttigieg’s national ballot access and delegate director Michael Gaffney wrote in the letter sent late Saturday.

Buttigieg's campaign is not challenging Bernie Sanders’ runaway win in the state. Instead, the Buttigieg camp is pointing to the battle further down the standings.

“Given how close the race is between second and third place, we ask that you take these steps before releasing any final data,” Gaffney wrote.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/23/buttigieg-claims-inconsistencies-nevada-results-116844

Mayo Pete is mad.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50572 on: February 23, 2020, 11:54:04 AM »
i don't get with the obsession on twitter/foums demanding everyone drop out. super tuesday isn't for a week and all these dopes staying is the best possible situation for bernie. if you are rooting for him why not hope for every one of these moderate types to stay in and split the vote up?

Because we’ve had 5/6 candidates say that even if Bernie has the most delegates going into Milwaukee, the nomination shouldn’t necessarily be given to him if he doesn’t have 1991.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50573 on: February 23, 2020, 12:04:24 PM »
yeah that's what anyone that isn't the frontrunner says, this is not something new. i'm still not convinced that is anything to worry about. if those other 5/6 candidates keep splitting the vote, it lessens their chances of taking any delegates.

at the very least all of them staying in til super tuesday seems to do nothing but help bernie from what i can tell.
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50574 on: February 23, 2020, 12:05:01 PM »
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Pete Buttigieg’s campaign is claiming there are inconsistencies in the reported results in Nevada, as the former South Bend (Ind.) mayor tries to claw his way to second place in Saturday's caucuses.

In a letter sent to Nevada state Democratic Party chair William McCurdy II and obtained by POLITICO, Buttigieg’s campaign is calling for the state party to publicly release a tranche of data and recalculate some precincts.

“In light of material irregularities pertaining to the process of integrating early votes into the in-person precinct caucus results, we request that you” release early and in-person votes, correct “errors identified by presidential campaigns” and “explain anomalies in the data,” Buttigieg’s national ballot access and delegate director Michael Gaffney wrote in the letter sent late Saturday.

Buttigieg's campaign is not challenging Bernie Sanders’ runaway win in the state. Instead, the Buttigieg camp is pointing to the battle further down the standings.

“Given how close the race is between second and third place, we ask that you take these steps before releasing any final data,” Gaffney wrote.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/23/buttigieg-claims-inconsistencies-nevada-results-116844

Mayo Pete is mad.

Bernie needs to go away and stop wasting Hillaries resources for the GE!



Morning after nevada and still counting?

Still one delegate up in the air for iowa.

:snoop

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50575 on: February 23, 2020, 12:07:20 PM »
This Killer Mike and T.I. tag team is life.



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e: candance owen trying to pull that democrat plantation shit on killer mike. :lol

I'm bout to EAT
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50576 on: February 23, 2020, 12:15:38 PM »
i don't get with the obsession on twitter/foums demanding everyone drop out. super tuesday isn't for a week and all these dopes staying is the best possible situation for bernie. if you are rooting for him why not hope for every one of these moderate types to stay in and split the vote up?

Because we’ve had 5/6 candidates say that even if Bernie has the most delegates going into Milwaukee, the nomination shouldn’t necessarily be given to him if he doesn’t have 1991.

Even then it helps to keep more candidates in because it pushes more of them below the 15% threshold and means more delegates for Bernie.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50577 on: February 23, 2020, 12:19:37 PM »
This Killer Mike and T.I. tag team is life.



:rejoice


e: candance owen trying to pull that democrat plantation shit on killer mike. :lol

I'm bout to EAT

Not a fan of Owens, but I gotta give her props for going in hostile territory. Still has really wacky views.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50579 on: February 23, 2020, 12:32:14 PM »
:doge