Author Topic: US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP (Read 6895738 times)

benjipwns · « **Reply #62100 on:** August 16, 2020, 02:19:19 AM »

hey, with all this China Virus crap, we forgot to get the final Iowa results:

Transhuman · « **Reply #62101 on:** August 16, 2020, 02:38:27 AM »

Goddamn that feels so long ago.

Himu · « **Reply #62102 on:** August 16, 2020, 04:16:38 AM »

Quote from: Transhuman on August 16, 2020, 02:38:27 AM

Goddamn that feels so long ago.

No doubt. It's crazy. This was March of this year but it feels a lifetime ago.

Nintex · « **Reply #62103 on:** August 16, 2020, 05:57:07 AM »

Quote from: benjipwns on August 16, 2020, 02:19:19 AM

hey, with all this China Virus crap, we forgot to get the final Iowa results:
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"Joe Biden will embarrass himself with a 3rd place finish in Iowa"

Quote from: brawndolicious on August 15, 2020, 10:53:35 PM

Wait...he was golfing today while his brother was taking his last breaths in the hospital? They must have just given up trying to persuade him to do the right thing.

He's playing golf to honor Robert who is looking down with George Floyd and would be very proud of what is happening.

Nintex · « **Reply #62104 on:** August 16, 2020, 07:57:19 AM »

Trumpvangelion

Himu · « **Reply #62105 on:** August 16, 2020, 07:11:22 PM »

BURN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY DOWN TO ASHES

james · « **Reply #62106 on:** August 16, 2020, 07:21:03 PM »

I completely understand what it's like to have those kinds of smears lobbed your way. Same thing happened to me when I declared my support for Bernie, and the false allegations continue to follow me because I refuse to bend a knee to the Clinton's and their allies

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #62107 on:** August 16, 2020, 07:32:29 PM »

Can confirm. I've heard through PM that james is a bad touch man.

Nintex · « **Reply #62108 on:** August 16, 2020, 07:41:06 PM »

Remember it was Bill Clinton who started cutting social security and deregulated the banks.

Biden will be a similar vessel like Bush and Bill for some very bad people and the media will praise him for his compromises and leadership.

Himu · « **Reply #62109 on:** August 16, 2020, 07:50:01 PM »

Tripon · « **Reply #62110 on:** August 16, 2020, 07:52:05 PM »

Clinton cut out people who was eligible for medicare in order to balance the budget.

BikeJesus · « **Reply #62111 on:** August 16, 2020, 07:55:35 PM »

The Dems won't learn anything unless you elect Trump again.

Himu · « **Reply #62112 on:** August 16, 2020, 07:58:16 PM »

Quote from: BikeJesus on August 16, 2020, 07:55:35 PM

The Dems won't learn anything unless you elect Trump again.

Nintex · « **Reply #62113 on:** August 16, 2020, 08:01:53 PM »

Quote from: shosta on August 16, 2020, 07:44:41 PM

Clinton cut social security?

Yeah, he started it to balance the budget and raise money for his economic reforms and then a bunch of politicians in Europe like Tony Blair followed suit.

Tripon · « **Reply #62114 on:** August 16, 2020, 08:02:44 PM »

Social Security and medicare aren't the same thing.

Nintex · « **Reply #62115 on:** August 16, 2020, 08:05:25 PM »

Quote from: Tripon on August 16, 2020, 08:02:44 PM

Social Security and medicare aren't the same thing.

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Building on policies that had been passed by Reagan, and a foundational principle of “personal responsibility,” TANF added work requirements for aid, shrinking the number of adults who could qualify for benefits. This legislation also created caps for how long and how much aid a person could receive, and well as instituting harsher punishments for recipients who did not comply with the requirements.

In the late 1990s, the economy was booming and to many analysts, it looked as though the Clinton-era welfare reforms were a success. But when the Financial Crisis of 2008 hit, an additional 1.5 million families with children living in poverty were created, making some wonder if the old framework was as reliable during market downturns as it was in times of success. Critics argued that because the number of funds that states received in block grants had not been adjusted for inflation since the 1990s, states had significantly less money on hand to be able to meet welfare needs in a new era.

https://www.history.com/news/clinton-1990s-welfare-reform-facts

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A recent study from the liberal Center on Budget and Policy Priorities shows just how predictable those results have been. Today, TANF only provides cash assistance to about 23 percent of all families in poverty, a record low compared with AFDC’s pre-reform height, when over three-quarters of all poor families received cash benefits.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/02/welfare-reform-tanf-medicaid-food-stamps/552299/

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #62116 on:** August 16, 2020, 08:09:15 PM »

Quote from: 213372bu on August 16, 2020, 06:53:33 PM

We're really out here putting bounties on rape and sexual harassment claims for people who are popular Justice Democrats who use their small platform to represent popular progressive policy.

Meanwhile KKKasich and noted racist/bigot/lover-of-warcrimes Rick Wilson are being branded allies.

Absolutely fuck the Democrats, I can't believe it's popular to associate with that filth as the response to being anti-bigot/Republican-- and that to fix things we're just asked to expressly "vote" for those ghouls without concern.

waz the matter? not feeling the unity?
come on, join the rest under the big tent and reach ~~around~~ across the aisle and give mittens a good greeting

Tripon · « **Reply #62117 on:** August 16, 2020, 08:13:28 PM »

Quote from: Nintex on August 16, 2020, 08:05:25 PM

Quote from: Tripon on August 16, 2020, 08:02:44 PM
Social Security and medicare aren't the same thing.

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Building on policies that had been passed by Reagan, and a foundational principle of “personal responsibility,” TANF added work requirements for aid, shrinking the number of adults who could qualify for benefits. This legislation also created caps for how long and how much aid a person could receive, and well as instituting harsher punishments for recipients who did not comply with the requirements.

In the late 1990s, the economy was booming and to many analysts, it looked as though the Clinton-era welfare reforms were a success. But when the Financial Crisis of 2008 hit, an additional 1.5 million families with children living in poverty were created, making some wonder if the old framework was as reliable during market downturns as it was in times of success. Critics argued that because the number of funds that states received in block grants had not been adjusted for inflation since the 1990s, states had significantly less money on hand to be able to meet welfare needs in a new era.
https://www.history.com/news/clinton-1990s-welfare-reform-facts

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A recent study from the liberal Center on Budget and Policy Priorities shows just how predictable those results have been. Today, TANF only provides cash assistance to about 23 percent of all families in poverty, a record low compared with AFDC’s pre-reform height, when over three-quarters of all poor families received cash benefits.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/02/welfare-reform-tanf-medicaid-food-stamps/552299/

TANF is the U.S. food stamp programs. Social Security is direct cash payments from the government for the Seniors and the Disabled. Again, not the same thing.

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #62118 on:** August 16, 2020, 08:14:03 PM »

Quote from: james on August 16, 2020, 07:21:03 PM

I completely understand what it's like to have those kinds of smears lobbed your way. Same thing happened to me when I declared my support for Bernie, and the false allegations continue to follow me because I refuse to bend a knee to the Clinton's and their allies

it's unfortunate that you're actually kind of funny

team filler · « **Reply #62119 on:** August 16, 2020, 08:20:05 PM »

D3RANG3D · « **Reply #62120 on:** August 16, 2020, 08:52:35 PM »

Nintex · « **Reply #62121 on:** August 16, 2020, 08:55:39 PM »

Quote from: D3RANG3D on August 16, 2020, 08:52:35 PM

yes

remy · « **Reply #62122 on:** August 16, 2020, 09:50:17 PM »

the marge thing is fucking bizarre and embarassing

Tripon · « **Reply #62123 on:** August 16, 2020, 10:02:29 PM »

I think it's best to realize that there's different eras of Simpsons and uh, you probably shouldn't even try to watch current era of Simpsons if you have any fondness for the old seasons.

benjipwns · « **Reply #62124 on:** August 16, 2020, 10:48:11 PM »

Quote from: Nintex on August 16, 2020, 08:01:53 PM

Yeah, he started it to balance the budget and raise money for his economic reforms

Nein.

kingv · « **Reply #62125 on:** August 16, 2020, 11:03:15 PM »

I think the last time social security law was changed was like 1983.

Mandark · « **Reply #62126 on:** August 16, 2020, 11:05:16 PM »

Quote from: Nintex on August 16, 2020, 07:41:06 PM

Remember it was Bill Clinton who started cutting social security

Quote from: Tripon on August 16, 2020, 07:52:05 PM

Clinton cut out people who was eligible for medicare in order to balance the budget.

citation needed

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #62127 on:** August 16, 2020, 11:40:01 PM »

Are we in one of those threads where people pretend presidents are kings and ignore the powers that congress has?

BC wanted social security reform as his final legacy piece but was hamstrung by Republicans, his own party and intern blowjobs.

Transhuman · « **Reply #62128 on:** August 16, 2020, 11:40:20 PM »

Quote from: 213372bu on August 16, 2020, 06:37:09 PM

TL;DR: Private Insurance proponents in the DNC board worked with conservative DNC to knowingly make Morse look like he was creating sexual misconduct. He did not and this was easily verified in days, though he did lose backing of supporters in that period. Now, efforts are being redoubled to continue to cast him as a sexual predator & they’re funding ads soliciting sexual misconduct claims knowing full well he’s in the clear.

He's gay, and the Facebook ads calling him a deviant are targeted at women, because any gay guy who knows about the situation knows he's being besmirched, but the ads might be able to convince women he's a sexual predator.

Feather in the cap:

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A Case for Women® is the only organization in the U.S. dedicated to empowering women to change their lives and help others through legal action.

I wonder if this organization knows it's name is being invoked to make a gay guy seem straight so he can be more thoroughly defamed to women voters, or if they were just handed an ad and told to run it.

benjipwns · « **Reply #62129 on:** August 16, 2020, 11:41:30 PM »

Cutting Social Security wouldn't even balance the budget for Clinton as the unified budget went away during H.W. Bush. (And it was still in surplus.)

benjipwns · « **Reply #62130 on:** August 16, 2020, 11:42:55 PM »

Quote from: ToxicAdam on August 16, 2020, 11:40:01 PM

Are we in one of those threads where people pretend presidents are kings and ignore the powers that congress has?

No, we're in a Nintex thread so we act like the President has a majority in Parliament.

Skullfuckers Anonymous · « **Reply #62131 on:** August 16, 2020, 11:43:16 PM »

Trump supporters finally get a win!

https://mobile.twitter.com/existentialfish/status/1295018684071772169

benjipwns · « **Reply #62132 on:** August 16, 2020, 11:51:21 PM »

benjipwns · « **Reply #62133 on:** August 16, 2020, 11:57:52 PM »

Tripon · « **Reply #62134 on:** August 17, 2020, 12:01:45 AM »

Quote from: Mandark on August 16, 2020, 11:05:16 PM

Quote from: Nintex on August 16, 2020, 07:41:06 PM
Remember it was Bill Clinton who started cutting social security

Quote from: Tripon on August 16, 2020, 07:52:05 PM
Clinton cut out people who was eligible for medicare in order to balance the budget.

citation needed

Hmm, yeah, you're right. I think I mixed up the restrictions with TANF payments with medicare eligibility.

Best I could find is that Clinton's administration did propose and got medicare payment cuts to doctors and hospitals.

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THEN: Medicare expected to run out of money in 1999.
Eight years ago, the Medicare Trust Fund was expected to run out of money in 1999. Health care fraud was contributing to rising costs and a shaky financial future for the Medicare program. The President and Vice President succeeded in passing measures to strengthen and modernize Medicare, crack down on fraud, and protect the benefits of today's beneficiaries.
NOW: Medicare trust fund extended until 2025 with more options for patient choice and preventive care.
President Clinton and Vice President Gore enacted the most comprehensive Medicare reforms in history. They insisted on provisions in the Balanced Budget Act of 1997 to protect, modernize and extend the life of the Medicare Trust Fund, while offering new options for patient choice and preventive care. The Balanced Budget Act also provided an array of new weapons in our fight to keep scam artists and fly-by-night health care out of Medicare and Medicaid. President Clinton has assigned more federal prosecutors and FBI agents to fight health care fraud than ever before. The Clinton-Gore Administration's work has extended the life of the Medicare Trust Fund until 2025.

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The Balanced Budget Act signed into law by the President on August 5, 1997 contains the largest reductions in federal Medicaid spending in Medicaid since 1981. The legislation is projected to achieve gross federal Medicaid savings of $17 billion over the next five years and $61.4 billion over the next ten years. After the legislation's offsetting increases in Medicaid spending are accounted for, the legislation is estimated to achieve net federal Medicaid savings of $7.3 billion over the next five years and $36.9 billion over the next ten years. These net Medicaid reductions account for 9.2 percent of the $402 billion in net reductions in federal outlays that the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) estimates will result from all of the Balance Budget Act's provisions over the next ten years.(1)

https://www.cbpp.org/archives/908mcaid.htm#:~:text=The%20Balanced%20Budget%20Act%20signed,spending%20in%20Medicaid%20since%201981.&text=It%20also%20allows%20states%20to,do%20business%20only%20with%20Medicaid.

Mandark · « **Reply #62135 on:** August 17, 2020, 12:12:24 AM »

Trivia: The 1997 bill's formula was too aggressive in cutting reimbursement rates for doctors (idk if this was a technocratic botch or a political miscalculation) so Congress kept passing temporary patches to keep it from going into effect until they finally scrapped it around 2015ish. Google "doc fix" if you want to learn more (you don't but it's okay I don't blame you).

VomKriege · « **Reply #62136 on:** August 17, 2020, 12:12:52 AM »

Quote from: benjipwns on August 16, 2020, 11:57:52 PM

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(...)

At this fateful moment in history, when the political party of the protected is using violence and censorship to maintain its grip on the culture and keep people of color on the Democrat plantation

(...)

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https://spectator.us/diamond-silk-release-book-uprising/

Nintex · « **Reply #62137 on:** August 17, 2020, 05:12:42 AM »

https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1295149340906991616

https://twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1295155505564966912

Himu · « **Reply #62138 on:** August 17, 2020, 07:25:21 AM »

The biden-harris tickets feels....off to me.

Betting Trump will win.

However, that CNN poll is the only poll in Trump's favor.

Nintex · « **Reply #62139 on:** August 17, 2020, 07:36:17 AM »

Even the logo feels off

BID N Harris

Himu · « **Reply #62140 on:** August 17, 2020, 07:56:50 AM »

https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1294047876520251393

Nintex · « **Reply #62141 on:** August 17, 2020, 08:17:07 AM »

Trump Jr.

Pissy F Benny · « **Reply #62142 on:** August 17, 2020, 08:18:17 AM »

how does the trump son who looks a bit like gary busey poll

Himu · « **Reply #62143 on:** August 17, 2020, 08:37:40 AM »

No Tom Cotton on the list.

Nintex · « **Reply #62144 on:** August 17, 2020, 08:40:04 AM »

The top 6 from that list would almost certainly start a war in their first 100 days

Pissy F Benny · « **Reply #62145 on:** August 17, 2020, 08:40:39 AM »

If I was American and Don Jr had even half a realistic chance of becoming president I'd blow my brains out

Nintex · « **Reply #62146 on:** August 17, 2020, 08:46:48 AM »

Quote from: Piss Benoit on August 17, 2020, 08:40:39 AM

If I was American and Don Jr had even half a realistic chance of becoming president I'd blow my brains out

If Trump loses and he doesn't get to pick his successor the chances are higher it'll be Jr. .

It would be a stupendously easy run too after 4 years of COVID-19 fall-out.

Himu · « **Reply #62147 on:** August 17, 2020, 08:53:37 AM »

Quote from: Nintex on August 17, 2020, 08:46:48 AM

Quote from: Piss Benoit on August 17, 2020, 08:40:39 AM
If I was American and Don Jr had even half a realistic chance of becoming president I'd blow my brains out
If Trump loses and he doesn't get to pick his successor the chances are higher it'll be Jr. .

It would be a stupendously easy run too after 4 years of COVID-19 fall-out.

Anyone attached to Trump will likely be damaged goods just like how Republicans tossed W in the trash.

Himu · « **Reply #62148 on:** August 17, 2020, 09:06:13 AM »

The real question is...if Trump loses how will the Democratic party align? It will be all out war.

Will Lincoln project republicans join the party in full or will they go back to republican party once the trump evil is defeated?

People like myself that could be defined as left are only with the democrats to beat Trump. Once that unifer is gone we will split ways.

Then you've got the establishment vs the progressives.

Trump losing will have just as much an impact on the future of the democrats as the Republicans. It will be a giant cataclysmic shift.

I'm besides myself thinking of the possibilities. 2021 gonna be lit.

Nintex · « **Reply #62149 on:** August 17, 2020, 09:42:22 AM »

Himu · « **Reply #62150 on:** August 17, 2020, 09:47:31 AM »

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/07/06/lincoln-project-ads-republicans-democrats-349184

Republicans are better politicians than Democrats.

I wouldn't put it past them to attack the Democratic party as soon as Trump is out with their massive campaigning machine. They're using social media much better than the democrats which is basically Nancy pelosi going "Trump virus!" and patting herself on the back.

*Takes notes on how to implement this with the left because as soon as Trump loses (if he does lol) it'll be Mission Kill The Democrats)*

Tripon · « **Reply #62151 on:** August 17, 2020, 09:52:18 AM »

https://twitter.com/jonathanvswan/status/1295355084692389889

Mandark · « **Reply #62152 on:** August 17, 2020, 10:25:52 AM »

Quote from: Cindi Mayweather on August 17, 2020, 09:47:31 AM

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/07/06/lincoln-project-ads-republicans-democrats-349184

Republicans are better politicians than Democrats.

The Lincoln Project's produced some slick ads, but this is basically the same group of consultants that got rolled twice by Obama and then again by Trump.

Himu · « **Reply #62153 on:** August 17, 2020, 10:32:04 AM »

Quote from: Mandark on August 17, 2020, 10:25:52 AM

Quote from: Cindi Mayweather on August 17, 2020, 09:47:31 AM
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/07/06/lincoln-project-ads-republicans-democrats-349184

Republicans are better politicians than Democrats.

The Lincoln Project's produced some slick ads, but this is basically the same group of consultants that got rolled twice by Obama and then again by Trump.

Tripon · « **Reply #62154 on:** August 17, 2020, 10:39:34 AM »

https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1295355081529991171

Beto, man what are you doing.

Mandark · « **Reply #62155 on:** August 17, 2020, 10:45:05 AM »

Quote from: Mandark on July 10, 2020, 03:29:52 PM

Also still salty at Beto talking himself into that presidential run.

Quote from: Mandark on August 11, 2020, 09:03:30 PM

getting mad about beto again

Should have Celtic Prided his ass and forced him to run for Senate.

Himu · « **Reply #62156 on:** August 17, 2020, 10:53:32 AM »

Hegar is a bad candidate. Her ads contained zero substance and basically pandered her military background and the fact she is a mother. I voted against her knowing she'd lose the election. Her opponent had a much more robust platform and capability of beating Cornyn. Just another white woman running on the most flimsy of platforms. Look at this.

Then you've got the fact shes another fucking campaigning on gun bans in fucking Texas. Many democrats in Texas are outright dumb. Beto lost on that same issue. And if Beto worked on a Senate campaign after saying,"hell yes we are going to taken your guns" then Texans especially won't vote for him.

Mandark · « **Reply #62157 on:** August 17, 2020, 10:54:07 AM »

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/21340746/joe-biden-covid-19-coronavirus-recession-harris

Dylan Matthews piece on the ambition of Biden's agenda vs. his belief he can win over GOP Senators.

Our best hope is Ron Wyden and Dick Durbin sitting him down and telling him Joe, it ain't like the old days.

james · « **Reply #62158 on:** August 17, 2020, 10:55:41 AM »

Quote from: Cindi Mayweather on August 17, 2020, 07:56:50 AM

https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1294047876520251393

JEB! DESTROYED

Himu · « **Reply #62159 on:** August 17, 2020, 10:57:29 AM »

Biden's compromise mentality might be bad in this era of politics. Kamala reeling him in and being an obstinate fighter may have sold me on her being Veep.

News:

Author Topic: US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP (Read 6895738 times)