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« on: December 06, 2016, 09:56:42 AM »
I wanted to read the manual while on the toilet and there's a small leaflet. I remember XI's manual to be thick. I know other games do that now but doing this for a meaty mmo? Blasphemy. Oh well, we saved the forest at least but still.

Guess I'll join Hyperion.
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« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2016, 10:46:35 AM »
hyperion is the best choce bc cool ppl party on it and it is very active. add me for the recruit a friend campaign so we get bonus items plz.

also prepare for awesomeness. it's a huge game with a ton of content, so it will take time to learn it all. fortunately the playerbase is generally friendly and helpful so if you got a question all you have to do is ask.

this is your first mmo, right?
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« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2016, 10:58:58 AM »
hyperion is the best choce bc cool ppl party on it and it is very active. add me for the recruit a friend campaign so we get bonus items plz.

also prepare for awesomeness. it's a huge game with a ton of content, so it will take time to learn it all. fortunately the playerbase is generally friendly and helpful so if you got a question all you have to do is ask.

this is your first mmo, right?

game sounds great and all but to answer your question...

I remember XI's manual to be thick

No. Ragnarok Online.

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« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2016, 11:52:52 AM »
SE interface is fucking awful please kill me

Try to log in. It requests username. I enter username and password. No username of this name available. Try a few times, same thing. Try email and it works. For some reason I'm logged into the account I used for the trial and can't log out. I'm trying to find save data so I can delete my user save data off the system and log into my main SE account. No dice. Basically, I want to die

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« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2016, 11:56:44 AM »
I got stuck for a week because I didn't understand that I could ignore the one-time use password. shit is terrible. I'd say login and then change your info afterwards. deleting stuff on your end prolly won't do anything.
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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2016, 11:59:37 AM »
Now I can't log in. I logged in and it wasn't the same account I used to log in with. :lol

Please kill me.

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« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2016, 12:20:49 PM »
No fucking wonder I can't log out. Apparently this thing links to your psn account. How utterly distinguished mentally-challenged fellowed.

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« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2016, 12:31:49 PM »
please stick with it it's worth it!

also be aware that it has a huge download after you log on, so you might want to go get your game boy or something
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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2016, 12:34:07 PM »
i already did the trial. I know the awfulness of the dl.

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« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2016, 12:40:55 PM »
did you leave the game on your system? if you did you don't have to go thru that again.

what class are you picking? i can hop on and show you around in a few hours.
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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2016, 12:41:09 PM »
EVERYONE PLAY THIS FUCKING GAME
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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2016, 12:57:58 PM »
SE customer service is dog shit.

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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2016, 01:00:10 PM »
go to mogstation on your browser and see if you can change your info there
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« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2016, 01:11:21 PM »
googled "square enix customer service terrible"

and found this on reddit

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I had made a terrible mistake of putting in the wrong DoB when making my account as I didn't have any good expectations when playing this game in open beta(boy was I wrong). Anyway, there was a mandatory password swap awhile back and I couldn't change my PW because I didn't know my fake DoB.

I called up customer service with my ID and credit card info ready to verify who I was only to learn they didn't accept either, instead me and the guy had a guessing game on my fake birthday. So we sat there and with me counting down the years, months and days him practically going "warmer.... warmer.... you're red hot! " He couldn't legally tell me what it was even though it was in front of his face. It was probably the silliest customer service call I've ever had.

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« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2016, 01:14:28 PM »
account unlinked. thank god for customer chat.

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« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2016, 01:26:22 PM »
If you don't get too far in the next month or so, I'll sub and play through the main story campaign with you.  I've never played an MMO other than like the first 30 mins of FFXI/FFXIV, but I decided one of my new years resolutions for 2017 is gonna be to play through an MMO starting with FFXIV (and if I like it maybe I'll go back and play through FFXI).  but I wanna finish up P5 and play FFXV first, so probably wouldn't be jumping in until late January at earliest.  If you're still playing then, we should team up!

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« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2016, 01:33:53 PM »
I'm just setting it up for now. Gonna beat FFXV then start on XIV while finishing up VII. So we will team up and everything. Just need to set up server and character.

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« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2016, 01:44:21 PM »
Log into SE site on phone. It asks for SE ID. SE ID is your email. It requires email and pw.

Go to FFXIV log in screen on ps4. It requires SE ID. You can't enter email so it's not your id. Enter SE username and PW and neither work but you can't log in with email. So I can't log in.

Please kill me.

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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2016, 02:03:00 PM »
I give up. Fuck this game. :lol

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« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2016, 02:04:56 PM »
Yeah i played it on pc and it was fun, then wanted to try the trial on ps4 with my se id but that was such a clusterfuck I gave up

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« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2016, 03:29:07 PM »
Since SpeedStats and her boy left PT hasn't had anyone to play with, Himu.

Do this for him.
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« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2016, 04:19:29 PM »
go to mogstation on your browser
log in with email
change username and password
use new username to log into ff14 on ps4
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« Reply #22 on: December 06, 2016, 04:31:17 PM »
are 33 year olds allowed in to mogstation?

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« Reply #23 on: December 06, 2016, 04:35:40 PM »
I give up. Fuck this game. :lol

PlayOnline and the whole Square account thing is REALLY a barrier for most folks. It's like an MGO/KonamiAccount thing.

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« Reply #24 on: December 06, 2016, 04:49:25 PM »
are 33 year olds allowed in to mogstation?

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mogstation is a wonderful place open to all with whimsy in their hearts
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« Reply #25 on: December 06, 2016, 04:53:52 PM »
 Don't give up, enjoy the themepark MMO that is FFXIV.

 Also, the good writing everyone talks about starts somewhere towards the end of the 2.0 (the main game)'s Main Story Quests. From that point on they cut the bullshit story/mission wise. You still need to pay attention a bit for lore tidbits on 1.0 and context for 2.0-present but it's something that you can do very halphhazardly. The only real exception to this is Hakkue's Manor and Tam-Tara Deepcroft (Hard). You can look up all that shit on the great wiki that explains things pretty well.

 It goes without saying that it's an MMO, so you'll be burnt out if you just do MSQ. The sidequests, when not fetch quests explicitly for levels, offer great writing and available at varying parts throughout the game, especially at level 30,50, and 60. The game is made so you can rush through MSQ and get through the main MSQ (2.0) and all the patches up until Heavensward. You might want to diversify it a bit with Gold Saucer, crafting classes  :heartbeat, or whatever else. I haven't really been playing much this year, but I'm on Brynhildr which is a pretty big server that isn't subject to a bad market place/overcapacity/crashes. If you guys ever decide to join my server let me know.

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« Reply #26 on: December 06, 2016, 06:15:45 PM »
Got in.

Okay for future reference because this company if fucking stupid.

There's technically three SE ids.

When I played FF7 steam I saw my id every time and assumed that was it. Turns out that's a nick name only.

Then there's the email of course.

But there's also a username. Mine was the same as my nick name but with a 5 added to it. But when I logged into FF7 steam I never saw this username. I had to log into my SE account and find it.

So there's:

email
username
nick name

Don't make the mistake of thinking your nickname is your username.

:snoop

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« Reply #27 on: December 06, 2016, 06:46:24 PM »
I'll be back home in a few hours to harass you/give you items. what's you're starting class and city?
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« Reply #28 on: December 06, 2016, 08:51:28 PM »
If you think registrering is hell (it really was), just make sure you never lose access to your security token/one time password. That shit almost had me kill someone.

FFXIV is great, I'm sure you'll enjoy it if you're into FF and MMORPGs.
My sub ran out.. This thread makes me want to re-sub.

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« Reply #29 on: December 06, 2016, 08:57:33 PM »
i was away for like 4 months and it was hell. never again.
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« Reply #30 on: December 06, 2016, 09:21:12 PM »
There's a free 4 days of playtime for lapsed accounts going on right now I think. I'll probably get on and try to catch up on the story stuff.

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« Reply #31 on: December 06, 2016, 10:56:14 PM »
Is FFXIV better to play on PC or PS4?  I'd assume PC with a PS4 controller + kb for typing chat?

Also, I own FFXIV on PC, but not Heavensword.  Just Realm Reborn.  Can I play through the main story with this or does Heavensword add really useful game things that would make the main story more enjoyable?

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« Reply #32 on: December 06, 2016, 11:11:52 PM »
Either. I have a USB kb hooked up to my ps4.

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« Reply #33 on: December 07, 2016, 12:35:39 AM »
you don't need heavensward at all til you get to that point in the story.
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« Reply #34 on: December 07, 2016, 01:01:17 AM »
It'll take quite a while to get to HW assuming they never implement a skip. 2.1 - 2.5 is a shit load of content.


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« Reply #35 on: December 07, 2016, 02:52:50 AM »
Is FFXIV better to play on PC or PS4? I'd assume PC with a PS4 controller + kb for typing chat?

Also, I own FFXIV on PC, but not Heavensword.  Just Realm Reborn.  Can I play through the main story with this or does Heavensword add really useful game things that would make the main story more enjoyable?
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« Reply #36 on: December 07, 2016, 06:28:14 AM »
Is FFXIV better to play on PC or PS4?  I'd assume PC with a PS4 controller + kb for typing chat?

Also, I own FFXIV on PC, but not Heavensword.  Just Realm Reborn.  Can I play through the main story with this or does Heavensword add really useful game things that would make the main story more enjoyable?
It probably doesn't matter, but boils down to personal preferences. If you have a very good computer, why not just play on PC for the best graphics? Or just stick with console, either is fine.

There are shittons of MSQs to do before you can access the Heavensword content, so there's little point in buying it right away. You need to be level 50, but also have completed tons of quests to access it. So once you reach level 50, you still have tons of quests (MSQs up until patch 2.55) to do unlock Ishgard. However, I would suggest you buy it right before you hit level 50, since that's the level cap of the game until you have Heavensward. You wanna keep earning XP once you hit 50. At least I believe this is how it works. So if you hit level 50 without the expansion, you won't earn any XP from killing mobs/doing quests. I'm sure someone else can confirm/deny this if I'm wrong. Also, you get to play Au'Ra from the start, if you want that.

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« Reply #37 on: December 07, 2016, 07:05:41 AM »
nah you're right. i was around 52 by the time I started Heavensward.
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« Reply #38 on: December 07, 2016, 12:01:36 PM »
After I finish 15 I'll be going back to this game. I can feel it. I already know I'll be in an FF mood haha

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« Reply #39 on: December 07, 2016, 02:47:01 PM »
How long do the pointless mmo fetch quests last in this game? In the trial I saw some crazy well directed cutscenes featuring some taro.

Speaking of which, changing the FFXI makes makes no sense to me. I hate all of the XIV race names. They're awful and overly foreign.

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« Reply #40 on: December 07, 2016, 04:08:03 PM »
a lot of the original 2.0 story has bullshit fetch quests, which is why it's the weakest in the "series." they ease up on them after, and by the time you get to heavensward they're mostly gone. just know that when they say titan has appeared that you're in for the single worst sequence of the game.

also remember that 2.0 was a remake on a budget, and it shows sometimes. there's not much voice acting and not a ton of fully animated cutscenes. again, this is different from later add-ons, where they started putting more of that in. heavensward has a lot, and the upcoming expansion supposedly has three times the budget so it should have some wild stuff in it.
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« Reply #41 on: December 09, 2016, 02:24:19 PM »
 Ironically the servers have been struggling since this thread was made  :doge

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« Reply #42 on: December 09, 2016, 02:39:32 PM »
What was 1.0 actually like? All I heard is the UI was terrible. Is there anything left of 1.0 in 2.0+?
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« Reply #43 on: December 09, 2016, 03:04:04 PM »
didn't play 1.0 but it was almost universally regarded as terrible. unlike ff13 it didn't even get good reviews, and the company president publicly apologized for the game.  some of the things I've heard were:

no auto attack
poor explanation of features
terrible crafting
ran like shit
copied landmarks around maps that made navigation a pain

the remake is written as a sequel, but it repurposes events which in sure was to shorten development time. so is still the same basic storyline and game design, just done much much better in 2.0
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« Reply #44 on: December 09, 2016, 04:14:00 PM »
 It's pretty cool how 1.0 is talked about as a old legend though. The events of 1.0 and the crater that "crashed" the game play a big role in the story from 2.0 all the way to the Heavensward Patch stories.

 The people in 1.0 got totally fucking rektTM btw. The intro cutscene shows what happens at the end of 1.0 (which is pretty dark and shows cities before they get hit, people just straight up dying etc.) is what got me into FFXIV, despite it being an MMO. Oh, and the song is pretty good.

 

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« Reply #45 on: December 09, 2016, 04:18:56 PM »
Apparently a not insignificant chunk of 1.0 was farmed out to some Chinese devs on the cheap, too.
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« Reply #46 on: December 09, 2016, 04:28:08 PM »
 I never played 1.0 but it had a pretty different (arguably better) aesthetic when it came to assets.
 
 Even the UI, while it looked like a mess in videos I've seen, still had that early 00's MMO style that I liked.

 But yeah, devs didn't take into account servers at all, to reduce latency 2.0 split single 1.0 areas into 5 huge sub-areas with loading screens.

 Without PS3 support it looks like areas won't be as fragmented, but still it was insane.

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« Reply #47 on: December 09, 2016, 05:08:11 PM »
holy shit you mean to tell me each area was a single map?? the maps in 2.0 are already huge; no wonder ppl in 1.0 complained about getting lost! 1.0 definitely looked better than 2.0 tho. like i said, you can see in some ways how 2.0 was done on a budget. clearest example is how 1.0 had normal cutscenes, while 2.0 has scenes that look about as nice as a kemco rpg.
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« Reply #48 on: December 10, 2016, 03:24:19 PM »
holy shit you mean to tell me each area was a single map?? the maps in 2.0 are already huge; no wonder ppl in 1.0 complained about getting lost! 1.0 definitely looked better than 2.0 tho. like i said, you can see in some ways how 2.0 was done on a budget. clearest example is how 1.0 had normal cutscenes, while 2.0 has scenes that look about as nice as a kemco rpg.
Yeah, there was still NSEW 'zones' but they were connected by continuous paths w/o loading screens. They got away with it by copy+pasting environments and making them linear messes as opposed to open zones.

 This was Gridania...
 

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« Reply #49 on: December 10, 2016, 04:35:21 PM »
what in the fucking hell that looks horrible
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« Reply #50 on: December 11, 2016, 02:42:30 AM »
A lot of XIs maps kinda look like that when you apply the actual paths to the seemingly open zones.

Nothing like making your way across a map to a quest only to figure out you didn't take the right path 20 minutes ago.

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« Reply #51 on: December 11, 2016, 10:02:16 AM »
1.0 had a lot of loading and most of the areas were copy/paste. That was easily the most "cheap" feeling part of the game. The no auto attack was not really an issue though, cause combat was all about strategic skill usage and timing your skills with party members for chains. there just wasn't a ton there unfortunately. quests took to you like...level 30ish? Then it was all about grinding and doing repeatable missions and guildleves and such. It was also a bit easier to play on a controller but only cause you barely used any skills. The cross-class stuff was cool though. You could use almost any skill from any class which was a fun idea. The UI was a mess though. :lol (pics spoilered for size)

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Also there were some quests and cutscenes that would only come to you in dreams, so as soon as you logged in you'd get a cutscene or you'd wake up to an NPC that got all their stuff stolen during the night at the inn and you had to track it down.

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There was also no Auction House, so you couldn't look up items to buy/sell. They had the Market Ward which was everyone's goddamn retainers standing around and you'd have to examine each one to see what they were selling. They did eventually add a search to it, but all that did was tell you which retainer to talk to and the search was single-city only. Also for retainers you picked their personality as well as their look, which was cool at the time. That might still be in but I already had a couple of 1.0 retainers so I never made any in 2.0

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Gathering classes were fun cause they each had a little minigame to get resources, which was another fun idea and actually made gathering slightly less boring. Crafting on the other hand was a shitshow. It also had a minigame but that shit was basically just random :lol

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Also you needed a good PC to play it, cause it was legit impossible on low settings (pics below). There was no way this game was ever going to run on a PS3.

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But it was a fun game (that was a lot like a jank XI part 2 rather than what ARR is now) and actually being there for the end of the world as the moon crashed into the planet and the empire invaded...and then the game kicked into a cutscene as everything was killed off. Very cool

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I enjoyed what I played of it and it helped that the game was free for most of its life but 2.0 is a such a vast improvement cause I was able to actually get my friends to play it with me. :lol

Also sorry for all these words about a dead game that no one liked lol
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« Reply #52 on: December 11, 2016, 11:45:08 AM »
I always enjoy reading about 1.0. I only ever played alpha / beta and almost immediately noped out because it was an unplayable mess, but I wish I'd come back to see the wild ass endgame stuff play out.

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« Reply #53 on: December 11, 2016, 02:46:42 PM »
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I know you said there was a lot of loading, but was there loading between sub-zones?

 I could've sworn that somebody on a podcast I listened to said that it was all connected, or maybe more connected? Some comments in the few times I visited the Reddit seemed to allude to that too.

 Maybe some of the smaller unimportant zones in La Noscea  were parts of other, bigger zones?

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« Reply #54 on: December 11, 2016, 04:01:05 PM »
i should have specified, there was loading but it was more of a "longer, less often loads" rather than how 2.0 is more split up. each larger zone was one big area that was just copy/pasted over and over again so you didn't have to load except going between larger areas. the copy/pastes would be like...half to a quarter of a 2.0 sub-zone just repeated over and over so you'd walk around and say "there's that same rock formation again, up next is the weird looking tree and a spiral area to walk up". but then every cutscene was a load to get in and out, each quest was a load, and going to areas like the market ward was a load. market ward loads sucked cause each retainer was unique since the gear they were selling they also wore.
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« Reply #55 on: December 11, 2016, 10:50:42 PM »
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« Reply #56 on: December 12, 2016, 09:55:31 AM »
A look at 1.0s problems.


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« Reply #57 on: December 12, 2016, 10:50:04 AM »
i should have specified, there was loading but it was more of a "longer, less often loads" rather than how 2.0 is more split up. each larger zone was one big area that was just copy/pasted over and over again so you didn't have to load except going between larger areas. the copy/pastes would be like...half to a quarter of a 2.0 sub-zone just repeated over and over so you'd walk around and say "there's that same rock formation again, up next is the weird looking tree and a spiral area to walk up". but then every cutscene was a load to get in and out, each quest was a load, and going to areas like the market ward was a load. market ward loads sucked cause each retainer was unique since the gear they were selling they also wore.
That sounds terrible :kobeyuck
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Edit: I'll watch the vid you posted later Rufus, on mobile.

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« Reply #58 on: December 12, 2016, 11:08:59 AM »
 Also I wouldn't mind making a Hyperion alt if other Borians are going to be on.

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« Reply #59 on: December 12, 2016, 11:14:54 AM »
Edit: I'll watch the vid you posted later Rufus, on mobile.
You'll want to skip straight to 7:30 anyway. :doge

The guy who made it is trying a little too hard. It's really not a good video at all. :doge
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