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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #60 on: December 12, 2016, 11:35:48 AM »
A look at 1.0s problems.



Oh my fuck is this guy's voice and presentation annoying

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« Reply #61 on: December 12, 2016, 11:55:11 AM »
I'm sorry. :stahp
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« Reply #62 on: December 12, 2016, 12:11:49 PM »
Also I wouldn't mind making a Hyperion alt if other Borians are going to be on.

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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #63 on: December 15, 2016, 11:15:16 PM »
Will post here since I like Queen's thread and the other one will probably die out eventually.

(bebpo's first totally lost & confused MMO journal):

So I played a little more, got up to lvl.12 and did LEVEES quests.  So like, battle levees seem just like normal quests?  Go here and kill a few monsters and a paragraph of text story behind it.  Took the starting 4-5 and did them and was ok.  Only thing interesting beyond that was you can +1-? the levels of the enemy to get more challenge and xp.  I can usually take on about 3 levels higher enemy at the start with my lvl.10 gear + like 3 actual attack skills. 

Then I tried GUILDEEVES aka, PvE DEATHMATCH MODE.  Teleport to a small arena with 3 other people at your level and kill a bunch of enemies together.  This was kinda fun, mainly because it was the first time I've fought together with other people and honestly 1 on 1 rpg battles are so fucking boring.  I hit them, they hit me, I hit them, they hit me, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz; A group smashing on an enemy is a lot more fun!  My only thought here is that because it's so easy, it's literally warp to this screen and go smash a bunch of enemies brainlessly PRESS WIN BUTTON get some xp/loot.  The solo quests have been brain dead easy so far too.

I think I'll like the combat more when it gets challenging and you gotta use your brains and skills/equip to survive.  Equip-wise there's not much choice at ~lvl.10.  There's soldier clothes/magic clothes and like 1 sword that's a lvl.7 viking sword for sword classes.  Combat-wise, my gladiator dude has the most boring movelist ever.  I go fast attack -> strong attack combo, fast attack -> other strong attack combo, fast attack -> strong attack combo.  AND THAT IS ALL I CAN DO  :'(  I mean at the start, yeah I buff atk/def and I got this move that I guess pulls enemies to me which is good in a party, but for 99% of the battle I stand in front of the enemy and go fast attack -> strong attack, fast attack -> strong attack.  Basically the most boring combat I've ever played in an rpg.  Even FF1 was better at the start!  Can I do a gladiator/mage combo so at least I can juggle some cool magic along with my fast attack->strong attack?

I've been pulling up the recommendations and seeing the quests it's telling me.  I do anything with a +, like I just visited the housing district but the quest was literally "go to the entrance of the housing district, say "hi", leave and report back" so that quest did ZERO to tell me what this whole Goblet place is even about other than that it exists.  One day maybe I'll look into it.  Right now I don't have any other + quests so I'm just gonna do some more MSQs. 

I saw everything was now CHRISTMAS!  Which was totally cool.  The main x-mas quest seems like it's lvl.15, so I'm gonna try to get up to lvl.15 so I can do it and see the quality of the special event type quests.

At some point can I ride a chocobo and control it?  Because right now I can just have it auto-ride between places.  Also I guess I should be a gardner or something because I like the sound of discovering treasure maps and finding some fucking chests because goddamn I love chests in rpgs and I'm sad I have not seen a chest in FFXIV :(  Also can't wait to get to an actual dungeon!  It's weird being like 5 hours in and not having seen a dungeon yet.  I can imagine playing with a party, kinda like the guildeeves and going through a dungeon together whomping shit would be a lot of fun.  How do parties even work if everyone is different levels, the level differences are so huge, like if I play with some of you guys who are 20 levels higher, I can't imagine we can do a dungeon together since if it's at my level you'll just 1 hit kill all the enemies, and if it's at your level I won't be able to even hit the enemies?

213372bu

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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #64 on: December 15, 2016, 11:37:19 PM »
Will post here since I like Queen's thread and the other one will probably die out eventually.

(bebpo's first totally lost & confused MMO journal):

So I played a little more, got up to lvl.12 and did LEVEES quests.  So like, battle levees seem just like normal quests?  Go here and kill a few monsters and a paragraph of text story behind it.  Took the starting 4-5 and did them and was ok.  Only thing interesting beyond that was you can +1-? the levels of the enemy to get more challenge and xp.  I can usually take on about 3 levels higher enemy at the start with my lvl.10 gear + like 3 actual attack skills. 

Then I tried GUILDEEVES aka, PvE DEATHMATCH MODE.  Teleport to a small arena with 3 other people at your level and kill a bunch of enemies together.  This was kinda fun, mainly because it was the first time I've fought together with other people and honestly 1 on 1 rpg battles are so fucking boring.  I hit them, they hit me, I hit them, they hit me, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz; A group smashing on an enemy is a lot more fun!  My only thought here is that because it's so easy, it's literally warp to this screen and go smash a bunch of enemies brainlessly PRESS WIN BUTTON get some xp/loot.  The solo quests have been brain dead easy so far too.

I think I'll like the combat more when it gets challenging and you gotta use your brains and skills/equip to survive.  Equip-wise there's not much choice at ~lvl.10.  There's soldier clothes/magic clothes and like 1 sword that's a lvl.7 viking sword for sword classes.  Combat-wise, my gladiator dude has the most boring movelist ever.  I go fast attack -> strong attack combo, fast attack -> other strong attack combo, fast attack -> strong attack combo.  AND THAT IS ALL I CAN DO  :'(  I mean at the start, yeah I buff atk/def and I got this move that I guess pulls enemies to me which is good in a party, but for 99% of the battle I stand in front of the enemy and go fast attack -> strong attack, fast attack -> strong attack.  Basically the most boring combat I've ever played in an rpg.  Even FF1 was better at the start!  Can I do a gladiator/mage combo so at least I can juggle some cool magic along with my fast attack->strong attack?

I've been pulling up the recommendations and seeing the quests it's telling me.  I do anything with a +, like I just visited the housing district but the quest was literally "go to the entrance of the housing district, say "hi", leave and report back" so that quest did ZERO to tell me what this whole Goblet place is even about other than that it exists.  One day maybe I'll look into it.  Right now I don't have any other + quests so I'm just gonna do some more MSQs. 

I saw everything was now CHRISTMAS!  Which was totally cool.  The main x-mas quest seems like it's lvl.15, so I'm gonna try to get up to lvl.15 so I can do it and see the quality of the special event type quests.

At some point can I ride a chocobo and control it?  Because right now I can just have it auto-ride between places.  Also I guess I should be a gardner or something because I like the sound of discovering treasure maps and finding some fucking chests because goddamn I love chests in rpgs and I'm sad I have not seen a chest in FFXIV :(  Also can't wait to get to an actual dungeon!  It's weird being like 5 hours in and not having seen a dungeon yet.  I can imagine playing with a party, kinda like the guildeeves and going through a dungeon together whomping shit would be a lot of fun.  How do parties even work if everyone is different levels, the level differences are so huge, like if I play with some of you guys who are 20 levels higher, I can't imagine we can do a dungeon together since if it's at my level you'll just 1 hit kill all the enemies, and if it's at your level I won't be able to even hit the enemies?
Leves are just needless grind that was (still is in the case of gatherers) the way to grind levels between missions. It's really  :zzz

 The MSQ is what unlocks "real content" like dungeons/trials etc. and they all have loot/treasure chests and whatever. Even though you're a low level, you can head over to Gridania now and get a taste of *something* if you're willing to dive in deep. There's a mode called "Palace of the Deep" and it opens at level 17 and is unlocked by a MSQ around that level. It's just a small side fling for rewards, but if you really want to spice things up I'd go for that. I'd have quit FFXIV if all it was was whacking on random enemies in the overworld for hours.

 Chocobos unlock after you get your grand company, which is supposed to be lvl. 20 last time I checked.

 Parties have shared XP and their own chat. High level peeps can 1-hit most normal enemies in the overworld areas, but there's a sync in dungeons that keeps people at a certain level/dps/defense in dungeons to keep things lively and challenging. If you don't queue and party with friends you can turn off that sync if you want.

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« Reply #65 on: December 15, 2016, 11:46:00 PM »
-battle leves fucking suck. they're boring and they give shit exp. just do fates instead if you're trying to level a fighting class. save your leve allowances for crafting/gathering classes

-guildleves are with doing at least once. each one teaches you mechanics that you'll use against bosses later.

-you get a chocobo at around level 20.just keep doing story quests till you get to it.

-each dungeon has a cap that your stats will be brought down to if you're high level. you also can only use skills up to whatever level the dungeon is (like level 20 skills in a level 20 dungeon). after a dungeon has been out for a few months they give you the option of playing it without the cap, provided you assemble your own party.

edit: i typed all this shit so I'm posting it dammit
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« Reply #66 on: December 16, 2016, 01:08:19 AM »
I need help.  I got to lvl.15 and doing this lvl.14 MSQ where I fight a bunch of badguy dudes including a lvl.20 boss who summons a voidmonster guy.  I beat these guys and then my allies leave and I have a 1 on 1 fight with a lvl.16 masked dude who summons a lvl.15 gargoyle and they're both wailing on me and as a gladiator I can only buff a little and they're doing decent damage on me per hit and I can't do anything besides use a potion once every minute or two when the cooldown runs out but they do too much damage and kill me between potions.  I'm wearing full lvl.15 equipment so my defense stats basically doubled when I hit lvl.15, but I dunno, it feels like I need a healer or something backing me up in this fight?

Also I dunno how to do jobs/classes yet.  At lvl.15 it said I can move to my 2nd class or something, but I don't know how.  Also there's all these guilds, should I join one?

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« Reply #67 on: December 16, 2016, 01:14:03 AM »
I need help.  I got to lvl.15 and doing this lvl.14 MSQ where I fight a bunch of badguy dudes including a lvl.20 boss who summons a voidmonster guy.  I beat these guys and then my allies leave and I have a 1 on 1 fight with a lvl.16 masked dude who summons a lvl.15 gargoyle and they're both wailing on me and as a gladiator I can only buff a little and they're doing decent damage on me per hit and I can't do anything besides use a potion once every minute or two when the cooldown runs out but they do too much damage and kill me between potions.  I'm wearing full lvl.15 equipment so my defense stats basically doubled when I hit lvl.15, but I dunno, it feels like I need a healer or something backing me up in this fight?

Also I dunno how to do jobs/classes yet.  At lvl.15 it said I can move to my 2nd class or something, but I don't know how.  Also there's all these guilds, should I join one?
I had the same problem as you yesterday and I completely forgot what to do.

 Basically you have to focus solely on the void monster. If you trigger the enemy's aggro while he's watching you it'll be impossible to win. Just keep hammering on the monster and stuff will play out.

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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #68 on: December 16, 2016, 01:33:11 AM »
Your equipped weapon determines your class. Sword and Board for GLD. 2H Axe for MRD, etc.

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« Reply #69 on: December 16, 2016, 01:45:42 AM »
I need help.  I got to lvl.15 and doing this lvl.14 MSQ where I fight a bunch of badguy dudes including a lvl.20 boss who summons a voidmonster guy.  I beat these guys and then my allies leave and I have a 1 on 1 fight with a lvl.16 masked dude who summons a lvl.15 gargoyle and they're both wailing on me and as a gladiator I can only buff a little and they're doing decent damage on me per hit and I can't do anything besides use a potion once every minute or two when the cooldown runs out but they do too much damage and kill me between potions.  I'm wearing full lvl.15 equipment so my defense stats basically doubled when I hit lvl.15, but I dunno, it feels like I need a healer or something backing me up in this fight?

Also I dunno how to do jobs/classes yet.  At lvl.15 it said I can move to my 2nd class or something, but I don't know how.  Also there's all these guilds, should I join one?
Do some leves and stuff to level up to 16 or 17, it should make a difference with that quest. And as far as I remember, the NPCs will come and help you after a while (I think when the Gargoyle is at 20% HP), so you'll just have to stay alive with the Antidote and Hi-Potions. You could also just level a Conjurer to 2 (all classes go on the same char) to get the healing skill Cure (or 8 for Protect too).

To level another class, just visit their Guild. The Conjurer is in Gridania. Then you simply just switch main weapon as mentioned above, between the classes to switch as you'd like. You can save gear builds from the character profile to make it faster/easier.
« Last Edit: December 16, 2016, 01:50:27 AM by butt »

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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #70 on: December 16, 2016, 03:36:23 AM »
Thanks Bu, yeah after I read your post I went back and my problem was the first time I accidently aggro'd both and they killed me.  The second time I stayed the fuck away from the mage and just fought the gargoyle and then the NPC came in and it was no problem.

So after discovering CLASS CHANGING omg, I'm having a ton of fun.  I didn't realize MMOs were Diablo-like where you run multiple characters via jobs but you have one pool of equipment and so each time you start a new job at lvl.1 you're a badass level 1 and leveling goes much faster.  Also quest jobs are cool!  It's fun doing the stories of them.  I got Gladiator to lvl.16 and then switched to a Therm~~~ aka black mage and got that to lvl.6.  Was a lot of fun shooting fireballs and ice after all those hours just smacking things boringly with Gladiator.  Being able to instant change jobs just from the equip screen + auto-equip best equipment is GREAT and now I want to level all the classes and I'm hooked.

Also!  Now I see the point of allllll these tons of low level city quests!  And Battleleeves!  I get it now.  When you do other jobs from lvl.1 it's not like the old quests come back, so as you do multiple jobs you end up completing most of these small quests in the world and learning more about the world along your multiple job runs.  Battleleeves are kinda fun at the start with a new job too with +4-5 levels; shit is scary intense & challenging with some ok rewards since you don't need much xp to level early on.

Then I did the christmas lvl.15 quests in the city and at first they were dumb and simple, but then they started having a plotline and it was kinda neat!  But I'm stuck at the 3rd quest in the questline, I need to go to one of the other starting cities to talk to an NPC, but uh, even though the quest was lvl.15, I don't think I am able to leave the starting city area yet?  I tried going to the docks and they only take me to other docks in the area.  I'm guessing to travel between mini-world maps you have to use the airships, right?  And I went to the airship place to buy a ticket to the Loma place but they said I need an airship pass.  How do I get an airship pass?  Is that a story thing where I need to get further in?  Cause I gotta get an airship pass before this xmas quest disappears so I can finish it!

Also, Queen of Ice, what's your character name?  I need to add more Bore people to my friendlist.  All night long I was playing and the two people in my friend list (213372bu & Postive Touch) weren't online so I was just playing solo all night.  I think I might be part of some sort of Bore chat thing that Postive Touch added me to on the first night but I can't seem to figure out how to access it; I just see random people talking in green in my chat occasionally.  For now, I just want to add everyone to my friendslist so if you're playing when I'm playing I can join you.  My character is Dequillo Ternathem.

Oh and what's the closest equivalent to a glass cannon class/job?  Because that's the kind of stuff I like to play as, super high damage output, but can die real quick so gotta go with skill & luck.

Anyhow, probably not gonna play much for a week or so unless I see boreans online in which I'll join in.  Played like 8-9 hours in 2 days.  Shit is addictive.  Need to finish up P5, but will come back and put a ton of hours into this most likely after I do.  After tonight's session and the game opening up and getting more fun I definitely feel like this could be my first MMO I actually play through the main scenario from start to finish (and then if I'm liking it I'll probably join in on the expansions after).  How do they work it if you're a marathon gamer and you clear the whole game + heavensword expansion in a month or two and then you don't want to play the game anymore, but you'll come back for the next expansion?  If you cancel your account after you're done until the next expansion do they delete your character or anything aka forcing you to keep paying $15/month between expansions just to keep your character so you can jump back in for the next expansion?  Or is it cool if you cancel after you beat the main scenario for each expansion and then resign on each time there's a new one aka playing it like a single player game.

Couple of other thoughts,
-The uh, lack of any sort of character emotion to the PC in cutscenes is fucking hilarious.  It's like people talk to your character and your PC has this dead stare to infinity all the time.  Like they couldn't have scripted some facial reactions for cutscenes?  I mean there are a ton of emotes you can manually trigger.  It just sorta screams budget, especially combined with the lack of VA, minimal cutscene direction, minimal cutscene animation.  I mean it's not like there are that many real cutscene events as is (so far I've seen like 3 quests with real cutscenes out of like 30-50 quests).  I read the recent interview with Yoshi-P where he said advice on making your game not suck "can't focus too much on high quality graphics" which I agree with, but I think there's a middleground where your PC can still smile or laugh or have some reaction along with the other characters so it doesn't seem like they totally stick out as not being part of the cutscene.  Maybe I just notice it more because I'm playing as a 10 foot tall caveman who just stares off into the distance when little people talk to him.
« Last Edit: December 16, 2016, 04:08:35 AM by Bebpo »

Freyj

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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #71 on: December 16, 2016, 08:04:46 AM »
Been a while, but pretty sure my character model has facial expressions in Heavensward content. It isn't like single player level stuff though.

And you can unsubscribe and resub without worry. No deletes.

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« Reply #72 on: December 16, 2016, 09:07:41 AM »
after that fight you're allllmost at the part where you unlock airship travel.

you're character will start interacting more in cutscenes, but mostly tends to just nod lol. the cutscenes get better the further you get into the game, although they never look as fancy as most modern games tho. the next expansion supposedly has a much bigger budget, so maybe they'll put some more money into them then.
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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #73 on: December 16, 2016, 10:22:57 AM »
I always skip the cutscenes.

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« Reply #74 on: December 16, 2016, 10:32:18 AM »
:/ :/ :/
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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #75 on: December 16, 2016, 10:42:13 AM »
My name is in the LS. Will message you when I see you online. Level 7 (or 8?) now. Is Bebpo just doing MSQ?

Bebpo

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« Reply #76 on: December 16, 2016, 11:27:49 AM »
My name is in the LS. Will message you when I see you online. Level 7 (or 8?) now. Is Bebpo just doing MSQ?

Mostly MSQ, but some little quests, more now with my 2nd class, some leeves, and class quests.  Like I said I've probably played 8-9 hours so far in two nights.

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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #77 on: December 16, 2016, 11:33:21 AM »
what are leevees? Fates?

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« Reply #78 on: December 16, 2016, 12:42:30 PM »
Leves are repeatable quests you get from a city or company levemete. You have a leve allowance that increases everyday to limit the number you can take. There's battlecraft leves which are basically hunt for a smidgen of XP (not worth it), fieldcraft leves to level gathering, and tradecraft leves to level crafting (both a good way to level a profession).

http://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Guildleve

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« Reply #79 on: December 16, 2016, 12:53:44 PM »
always make sure you do class quests as soon as they're available bc they give you new abilities and gear
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« Reply #80 on: December 16, 2016, 04:39:29 PM »
What the hell is enmity in the context of XIV's stats?  I'm assuming it just means aggro?  As you increase aggro does anything happen with an enemy besides getting their attention?  Like does their defense drop or anything?  Because like Gladiator has a strong attack that adds enmity, and then a stronger attack that replenishes mp and there's like no reason to ever use the weaker of the two strong attacks since he also has flash to get the attention of all enemies.

And yeah, after faq-ing for a bit I think I'm gonna turn this GLD into a Warrior build, and then run a Mage/Dragoon on the side.  Monk sounds the closest to glass cannon build that I want, but it also sounds kinda a pain in the butt to use.

I am strongly thinking about leveling every class in the game to lvl.5 right away, that way I can try them all out and get a feel for what I like.

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« Reply #81 on: December 16, 2016, 04:48:03 PM »
enmity is aggro, yes. the whole point of being a tank in a party is to piss of all the enemies so they don't go after your allies, so your whole strategy should revolve around generating as much enmity as possible.
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« Reply #82 on: December 16, 2016, 04:57:59 PM »
enmity is aggro, yes. the whole point of being a tank in a party is to piss of all the enemies so they don't go after your allies, so your whole strategy should revolve around generating as much enmity as possible.

Yeah, but if you have a move that generates it against all enemies, why would you care about using a weaker attack that only keeps adding it to a single enemy?  Like do stronger enemies unaggro pretty quickly so you have to keep hitting them with enmity?

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« Reply #83 on: December 16, 2016, 05:02:28 PM »
i don't know. I tanked a dungeon one single time and sucked at it. my team was dicks and it was traumatizing and I never did it again. fuck tanking
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« Reply #84 on: December 16, 2016, 05:05:01 PM »
oh wait I do know that yes you do need to constantly increase enmity bc others can definitely peel enemies off you. I play a black mage, who hit the hardest of any class, and I can easily pull enemies from a tank who doesn't know what he's doing.
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« Reply #85 on: December 16, 2016, 06:39:02 PM »
i don't know. I tanked a dungeon one single time and sucked at it. my team was dicks and it was traumatizing and I never did it again. fuck tanking

 :lol

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« Reply #86 on: December 16, 2016, 09:13:46 PM »
was gonna play this all night, but I went to plug in some Christmas lights and shorted out my whole damn living room. life is a bitch
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« Reply #87 on: December 16, 2016, 10:26:17 PM »
was gonna play this all night, but I went to plug in some Christmas lights and shorted out my whole damn living room. life is a bitch

:(

Got the airship pass, checked out the other locations.  Gridania is pretty nice looking.  Took a look at the job faqs to see what I need to level, I'm thinking I want to role a Warrior, a Ninja, a Black Mage and a Dragoon which means a lot of classes.  I'm lvl.17 now in my Gladiator but it seems like there's no point in taking Gladiator past lvl.15 unless you want to go full Paladin which for mostly solo play seems like a boring idea.  So I think I'll switch to a class I want to take to lvl.30 before I advance the main story any further.

Finished up the x-mas quests in the desert city.  Was nice.  I really like all the x-mas decorations in the various cities.  Really adds a lot.
« Last Edit: December 17, 2016, 01:43:25 AM by Bebpo »

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« Reply #88 on: December 17, 2016, 03:03:09 AM »
was gonna play this all night, but I went to plug in some Christmas lights and shorted out my whole damn living room. life is a bitch

:(

Got the airship pass, checked out the other locations.  Gridania is pretty nice looking.  Took a look at the job faqs to see what I need to level, I'm thinking I want to role a Warrior, a Ninja, a Black Mage and a Dragoon which means a lot of classes.  I'm lvl.17 now in my Gladiator but it seems like there's no point in taking Gladiator past lvl.15 unless you want to go full Paladin which for mostly solo play seems like a boring idea.  So I think I'll switch to a class I want to take to lvl.30 before I advance the main story any further.

Finished up the x-mas quests in the desert city.  Was nice.  I really like all the x-mas decorations in the various cities.  Really adds a lot.
Well, there's 29 dungeons, 27 trials(bosses), and 6 raids in 2.x that guide you from lvl 15 to lvl 50.

 I mean, if you are fine with what you're doing, have at it, but you'll double your playtime and have to regress to using a few weak abilities for quite a while in synced gameplay.

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« Reply #89 on: December 17, 2016, 03:57:04 AM »
Did my first dungeon.  Couldn't figure out how to party chat (why is my chat always filled with green [NOVICE] people talking wtffffff), but I guess when you're the tank leader you don't have to talk, just get the enemy's attention and keep it on you while smacking.

I don't understand how the chests work?  Need/Greed/Pass.  Does only 1 person in your party get the item?  Cause that's pretty lame. 
I still have a hard time with the game's lock-on system.  Disengaging one enemy and engaging another feels problematic a lot.  Like if I'm auto-attacking the wrong enemy and I use left on the d-pad to target the enemy I actually want to hit, he'll hit them once and then go back to auto-attacking the wrong enemy.  -_-

I did lvl.1-4 with Maurader & Rogue.  I fucking love Rogue class.  It's exactly what I wanted the combat to be and the opposite of slow zzz Gladiator.  Attacks are fast and skills refresh much quicker and you take way more damage.  I think I'm going to go Rogue -> 30, Pugilist -> 15 and do a Ninja build cause FF Ninja's have always been pretty cool whether it's FF6 or FFT.  I think I'll focus on that as my main story run, and then after I'll roll a Black Mage & maybe push my Gladiator/Marauder up to Paladin (zzz) or Warrior.  I'm already at lvl.18 now with Gladiator so might as well keep it around.

I don't get non-combat jobs at all  ??? Like I thought they'd be a sub-class you can do within your main class, not a real regular drop your stats/equip to 1 kinda thing.  I tried the goldsmith crafting job where you sit and tap rocks and build junk that's way less useful than what you can just buy and you have to buy the materials for it anyways so why not just buy it.  What's the point of doing of leveling all these non-combat jobs?  There's a ton of them.  Are any of them fun or useful support classes to help you out on your main class? 

Is the Golden Saucer part of Heavensword or do you eventually unlock it doing story quests? 

I do like that there's a million quests in the game.  I don't like that most of them are "go and kill x amount of a couple enemies" or just go talk to a couple of people and come back.  I guess that's the basis of MMOs though. 

Oh and whenever I do anything with a party it always starts out saying LIGHT PARTY.  What does that mean?
« Last Edit: December 17, 2016, 04:21:08 AM by Bebpo »

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« Reply #90 on: December 17, 2016, 09:24:50 AM »
-to switch chat types, click the left side of the TouchPad then hit left on the dpad to highlight that bubble with a chat icon. click on that to select different chat channels. choose "party". the novice messages appear bc you're in the novice chat. you're considered a novice til you beat the 2.0 story or play like 160 hours iirc

-yep you draw for chests. choose need if you really want it, greed if you kinda do (you can't roll need if it's gear for a class that's different for what you are at the time), and pass if you want to roll a zero. it's not that hard to win stuff, and most people will pass on 2.x stuff anyway since it's useless to them

-to lock on double tap x. the arrow above an enemy will now have a circle above it, meaning your character will auto attack them. you can also press... l3? r3? to lock the camera on to the enemy. use left and right on the dpad to cycle thru targets. you can change what type of targets will be highlighted in the configuration menu. it's still kinda odd a pain to get the right target sometimes bc the game will highlight the enemy closest to the screen a lot instead of picking words directly in front of your character.

-crafting jobs let you make some cool stuff when you get to high levels. gear, items, clothes, housing stuff, etc. the material are cheap at low levels but get expensive once you get to the 20s or 30s. most of the materials from them on are only available by getting them with gatherer classes. none of this is essential, but some people (like me) find it a fun alternative to combat.

golden sauce is available pretty early iirc. look around the area of uldah that's kind of near the big aethernet crystal. I think there's some smug looking npc surrounded by servants that are trying to carry a ton of boxes. he should give you the quest that lets you travel to the gold saucer.

-yep most of the artists are like that. the downside to having every single thing in the world be instanced

-light party is 4 players, full party is 8 players
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« Reply #91 on: December 17, 2016, 09:33:34 AM »
Have gotten way more straightforward and useful info here than from guides, and friends who have "played the game for years, ask me anything".

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« Reply #92 on: December 17, 2016, 09:38:18 AM »
I'm just trying to bring the light back to Eorzea
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« Reply #93 on: December 17, 2016, 10:48:58 AM »
Thanks PT!

So crafting/gathering jobs are mainly for high level to get good loot you can't just buy at the shop?  My only thing is that at first glance it seems like such an added grind.  First level these jobs for hours, then spend hours getting material, then spend hours crafting just to make some equipment that normally in other rpgs you can just find or buy.  I was hoping that side jobs would be more for more interesting stuff like the treasure maps you guys talked about versus just standard equipment. 

I think I'll skip the crafting jobs until I beat the main scenario and just stick to battle jobs.  Right now I feel like I should stick with my lvl.18 gladiator until I unlock the lvl.20 free company stuff and get my Chocobo.  Then get my Rogue up to the same level and continue the story with it.

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« Reply #94 on: December 17, 2016, 11:57:15 AM »
the endgame stuff you can buy from the market board (meaning it's sold by other players) will be very very expensive one you get to the "endgame" i.e. the content between ARR and HS.

crafting isn't something I'd do while going thru the story. it's more for when finish the storyline playthru phase and enter the addiction phase
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« Reply #95 on: December 18, 2016, 10:56:40 AM »
Popped back in since there's 4 free days anyway. Downloading some patches then I'll get the Xmas stuff on my main and see if Hyperion is open. Guess I'll make an Au Ra since I've yet to that and they are cool. Dunno what job to work for though....might go back to BRD since my main is now MCH

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« Reply #96 on: December 18, 2016, 02:14:18 PM »
Played a little more and got my Rogue to lvl.7 or 8.  Limsa Loma or whatever it's called is a way better starting city than Uldana or whatever that's called (I hate all the hundreds of weird names in this game, can't spell anything).  I mean the Thanalan city was fine and all, but this one is PIRATES and fuck that's way more interesting than standard rpg settings.  Rogue class quests are pretty cool too, pirate secret assassin's is like the best setup for a group.  Plus fighting as a Rogue you're spinning and slashing and jumping and it looks badass.  Since I did the first 12 hours of the game or so in Thanalan, I'm sticking to Pirate city while I get my rogue up to lvl.15 and then I'll spend some time in Gridania forest world.

I've gotten to the point where I think rather than sorta rushing by just doing the MSQs and marathoning the game, I like it better as kind of a side-game that I can pick up and play a couple hours every couple of nights and do a half-dozen/dozen quests and gain a couple levels.  I find myself talking to all the NPCs now and getting a feel of the land, taking on all the simple quests in the area that are at least near my level.  It's very relaxing. 

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« Reply #97 on: December 18, 2016, 02:15:26 PM »
How long does the free stuff last? I own the game but stopped when my 30 days was up. I'm also going out of town on Thursday.
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« Reply #98 on: December 18, 2016, 02:46:35 PM »
lasts til the end of the month, you get 4 days starting from your first login

also seems my old fc left the server lol. so i may move my main over to hyperion if i end up resubbing soon

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« Reply #99 on: December 18, 2016, 06:48:11 PM »
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« Reply #100 on: December 19, 2016, 04:17:15 AM »


Had some fun tonight with my rogue.  The online queue times for the starting guildheists can get insane as a DPS.  Had to wait 25 mins+ to get into the second lvl.10 one.  Also I can see the problem when the community isn't that active.  Some of the FATEs that focus on a single big boss guy, if you're going in at or underleveled can be tough/unwinnable when no one else joins your FATE.  Tonight outside of running into one guy on a FATE, I went around to the various fields around Limsa Loma and all the fates were at 0%.  Didn't see like anyone outside of town.  Is the game usually this dead?  I figured the christmas event stuff + free 96 hours would make it more active than usual right now.  A little worried that the game is gonna be a little more rough with a small community.

Couple more questions:

1.  Everyone says don't waste Leeves on battle leeve quests.  But in the sub-lvl.15 2nd job range (aka no MSQs) I'm finding their the quickest way to level between class quests if you do them at +4 and quick.  Like I just did the lvl.10 class quest, did the two lvl.10 guildheists, and did the quests up through around lvl.10 in the around.  So right now between lvl.12-15 there's nothing really besides a couple of quests, hitting up Fates and leeves.  I can see later on after lvl.15 when there's more options, there's probably other ways to level, but they seem very useful for leveling in the sub 15 stage (maybe even sub 20 stage).  Lemme know if I'm missing something here.

2.  I checked the auction prices and WHAT THE FUCK.  Low level equipment, like lvl.5 hats or something are going for $10,000gil when I can buy this stuff for like 300 gil from a merchant.  Everything seems insanely expensive.  I only have like $8,000gil right now and I need it for teleporting around while I'm questing!  I guess this is how MMO economies work?  Everything is inflated?  Makes it seem like I won't be using the auctions to buy anything any time soon.

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« Reply #101 on: December 19, 2016, 09:48:33 AM »
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Had some fun tonight with my rogue.  The online queue times for the starting guildheists can get insane as a DPS.  Had to wait 25 mins+ to get into the second lvl.10 one.  Also I can see the problem when the community isn't that active.  Some of the FATEs that focus on a single big boss guy, if you're going in at or underleveled can be tough/unwinnable when no one else joins your FATE.  Tonight outside of running into one guy on a FATE, I went around to the various fields around Limsa Loma and all the fates were at 0%.  Didn't see like anyone outside of town.  Is the game usually this dead?  I figured the christmas event stuff + free 96 hours would make it more active than usual right now.  A little worried that the game is gonna be a little more rough with a small community.

Couple more questions:

1.  Everyone says don't waste Leeves on battle leeve quests.  But in the sub-lvl.15 2nd job range (aka no MSQs) I'm finding their the quickest way to level between class quests if you do them at +4 and quick.  Like I just did the lvl.10 class quest, did the two lvl.10 guildheists, and did the quests up through around lvl.10 in the around.  So right now between lvl.12-15 there's nothing really besides a couple of quests, hitting up Fates and leeves.  I can see later on after lvl.15 when there's more options, there's probably other ways to level, but they seem very useful for leveling in the sub 15 stage (maybe even sub 20 stage).  Lemme know if I'm missing something here.

2.  I checked the auction prices and WHAT THE FUCK.  Low level equipment, like lvl.5 hats or something are going for $10,000gil when I can buy this stuff for like 300 gil from a merchant.  Everything seems insanely expensive.  I only have like $8,000gil right now and I need it for teleporting around while I'm questing!  I guess this is how MMO economies work?  Everything is inflated?  Makes it seem like I won't be using the auctions to buy anything any time soon.


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« Reply #102 on: December 19, 2016, 10:52:54 AM »
fates have been kind of empty lately. you can usually get a group going on ones above 30 though. your alt classes level up faster depending on how high your highest level class is, so early levels go by pretty for long term players. prolly why those fates don't always get attention 

some suggestions: get a chocobo. they can fight with you which is especially useful for those boss fates. you could also use the party finder to set up a low level fate running group.

dps queue times are notoriously bad. has less to do with server population and more to do with how many people play as them. tanks and healers have near instant queue times but dps will take 15 to 25 minutes usually. makes sure you change the options to queue up with players of all languages to cut down on wait time.

i dunno why market board prices are so high, but I figure it's prolly laziness. you'll make a lot of gil as you play through the game, but if you're in need just hmu and I can give you some.
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« Reply #103 on: December 19, 2016, 12:38:20 PM »
How do you change queue to all languages?

I don't really need any equipment, I was just looking to get more variety of hats to change things up so I just looked at like the cheapest low level stuff.

Yeah, chocobo sounds good, especially if it's a healer.  Also looking forward to it because the game is kinda bad at putting teleport points everywhere so I'm getting kinda tired of sprinting across the overworld.

Also, I read some wiki pages and it looks like hunting logs are a major xp source for 1-15.  I need to start doing those.  Also there's some +30% xp bracelet for finishing the novice hall tutorials, so I should go do those.  And yeah I read about the lower class +100% bonus and resting bonus.  This should all make low level grind go much quicker for me.

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Had some fun tonight with my rogue.  The online queue times for the starting guildheists can get insane as a DPS.  Had to wait 25 mins+ to get into the second lvl.10 one.  Also I can see the problem when the community isn't that active.  Some of the FATEs that focus on a single big boss guy, if you're going in at or underleveled can be tough/unwinnable when no one else joins your FATE.  Tonight outside of running into one guy on a FATE, I went around to the various fields around Limsa Loma and all the fates were at 0%.  Didn't see like anyone outside of town.  Is the game usually this dead?  I figured the christmas event stuff + free 96 hours would make it more active than usual right now.  A little worried that the game is gonna be a little more rough with a small community.

Couple more questions:

1.  Everyone says don't waste Leeves on battle leeve quests.  But in the sub-lvl.15 2nd job range (aka no MSQs) I'm finding their the quickest way to level between class quests if you do them at +4 and quick.  Like I just did the lvl.10 class quest, did the two lvl.10 guildheists, and did the quests up through around lvl.10 in the around.  So right now between lvl.12-15 there's nothing really besides a couple of quests, hitting up Fates and leeves.  I can see later on after lvl.15 when there's more options, there's probably other ways to level, but they seem very useful for leveling in the sub 15 stage (maybe even sub 20 stage).  Lemme know if I'm missing something here.

2.  I checked the auction prices and WHAT THE FUCK.  Low level equipment, like lvl.5 hats or something are going for $10,000gil when I can buy this stuff for like 300 gil from a merchant.  Everything seems insanely expensive.  I only have like $8,000gil right now and I need it for teleporting around while I'm questing!  I guess this is how MMO economies work?  Everything is inflated?  Makes it seem like I won't be using the auctions to buy anything any time soon.


Pro tip:  Go into your emotes menu.  You should see a checkbox labeled "Show emotes in chat log" or something like that.  UNCHECK THAT!  Everyone on your server will thank you.  I love spamming emotes (Male Roegadyn has some fun ones), but if you don't uncheck that, everyone within /say range of you will have your emotes clutter up their chat logs.

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« Reply #104 on: December 19, 2016, 08:48:34 PM »
Anyone going to play tonight?  I'm so stressed out from work I need to relax when I get home so probably going play some FFXIV for a few hours after 8pm PST.

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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #105 on: December 19, 2016, 08:56:22 PM »
I'm playing some ff15 but I'll log in if I can
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« Reply #106 on: December 20, 2016, 12:49:48 AM »
yep, game is still fun. swapped back to bard though, wasn't feeling mach at all. just not for me. but now i have to start back over at L50 :gloomy

either way i think i should wait until i finish ffxv before i resub otherwise i'll never finish it :lol

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« Reply #107 on: December 20, 2016, 04:06:13 AM »
Got my Rogue to lvl.19!  Cleared the rank 1 & 2 hunting which helped, also did the hall of novice DPS training which was actually pretty fun and got me good loot including +30% xp ring.  Did a bunch of quests through Limsa Londa and the lvl.15 class quests for Rogue and the lvl.15 guildheists.  Now that I've outleveled my Gladiator and done most of the stuff through lvl.15 questing, it's time to get back to the story which takes me to Gridania.  Will be checking out that map next time as I get towards my chocobo and army guild thing.

Combat is more fun now.  The DPS training actually showed me that combat will eventually get interesting.  See up through lvl.15-20 stuff, all the enemies engage you like 1 at a time most of the time and one enemy will do an AoE attack and you just walk around him in a circle and it's like this is jokingly easy how can anyone ever get hit by these attacks.  But in DPS training it was showing that there will be situations with multiple enemies engaging you doing multiple AoE spells/attacks with huge radiuses at a time so you gotta be constantly moving around to dodge stuff which is fun.  Also the party combat is a lot more fun than 1 on 1.

Got some minions, neat but they don't attack right?  They're just for visuals?  I accidentally discovered that there are cross job skills which is cool, but so far it mainly seems like buffs are the only thing I'm getting from other classes.  Not getting any great attacks are anything so far.  But I can buff DEF pretty well with Rogue, and it's got a few different good attacks and I really like Mutilate DoT and that I can back off from AoE attacks and throw daggers from ranged.  Pretty fun class.

So I was looking through some high level merchants list and I noticed the Ninja weapons are just the Rogue weapons.  Are you going to tell me that playing as a badass ninja I'm not going to be able to use a cool ninja sword and I have to use...daggers?  Because that is incredibly disappointing if so!  I wanted to go around with like Masamune samurai swords while stealthing and jumping down and stabbing dudes Tenchu style which is why I'm doing Rogue -> Thief (although I gotta do Pugilist 1-15 after I hit lvl.30 Rogue to get it).

Also, huge huge annoying thing.  I fucking HATE this Novice chat log that you can't turn off.  Tonight while going around the log was filled with nothing but 13 year old brats going Heil Trump!  And talking about bombing the middle east and all kinds of annoying troll shit.  So I set the window to battle events only but then I couldn't see stuff like hunting log updates.  It's really lame you can't turn novice off.  When you hit lvl.40 with your main and it shuts off, does it turn back on whenever you change to a class under 40 again?

My char:  Look at this sexy motherfucker!

« Last Edit: December 20, 2016, 05:02:00 AM by Bebpo »

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« Reply #108 on: December 20, 2016, 04:44:51 AM »
What classes are you guys playing, and do you enjoy it?

I have a PLD but fuuuuuck being a tank, especially after 1 year of absence and jumping back into it without remembering how to play tank.
Usually I love tanking, but in FFXIV, it's not for me. Any DPS class recommendation? Either ranged or melee is fine with me. MNK?

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« Reply #109 on: December 20, 2016, 10:54:18 AM »
you can configure what shows up in your chat log. i assume you can also turn off novice chat there too.

i play as a blm which is fun but not for everyone. you can't move much and the level 60 combo is ridiculously complex, but once you get good you can burn the shit out of ANYTHING.

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« Reply #110 on: December 20, 2016, 11:32:18 AM »
FF14 & Heavensward PS4 codes on Amazon

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« Reply #111 on: December 20, 2016, 11:49:55 AM »
buy it demi

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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #112 on: December 20, 2016, 11:59:44 AM »
Drop the sub requirement and I would
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« Reply #113 on: December 20, 2016, 12:10:25 PM »
they should let you pay for a sub with gil, but that won't ever happen. basically the only reason i go back to wow as often as i do is being able to buy a sub for gold.

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« Reply #114 on: December 20, 2016, 12:31:06 PM »
Drop the sub requirement and I would

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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #115 on: December 20, 2016, 01:07:08 PM »
But I can play Destiny for $0 a month so idk man hard bargain
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« Reply #116 on: December 20, 2016, 01:20:35 PM »
destiny has like 3 hours of content after you factor in all the expansions. ff14 will take like 150 just for the main story.
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« Reply #117 on: December 20, 2016, 01:21:19 PM »
Too much investment, sorry. It's why I dont play MMOs period. Its either FF14 or {{backlog}}
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« Reply #118 on: December 20, 2016, 01:31:03 PM »
I like how I play this so casually. I'm almost level 10 and I feel like I don't have to put all encompassing effort into playing this like I did with other mmo's.

I remember when I played WoW, it took me something like 50 or 100 hours to get to level 20? I don't remember but it was a lot of hours and I fondly remember getting my first mount after x hours play, but I'll probably be level 20 in this pretty quick with zero commitment.

Really like the story too.

When you realize that you should be doing the MSQ instead of the small time ! quests, things are a lot more fun. I did the magicked blade quest yesterday which I already did during my first trial. Voice acting in an MMO still blows my mind.

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« Reply #119 on: December 20, 2016, 01:33:15 PM »
Been playing since 1.0 Alpha.
Haven't stopped since.
Went to the fanfest in Vegas.

I felt sort of out of place since the crew I went with didn't want to go out to get fucking smashed after each day but you know whatever. It's fun enough to stop me from buying more video games.
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