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Bebpo

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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #900 on: March 13, 2017, 10:47:43 PM »
Yeah, that's my experience too, but then I enjoy playing rpgs by myself so it doesn't bother me at all.  Only when I need to do MP content does having a quiet FC kinda suck.  The always behind stuff is always gonna be a thing, but I just figure one day I'll catch up to Sunblade and Speedstats and PT.

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« Reply #901 on: March 13, 2017, 10:51:19 PM »
You'll get there. The game has enough lulls between patches and is very good about letting people who hit the level cap be able to just jump straight to the current most recent gear rather than having to force their way through incremental stuff.

At the rate you're going, you'll end up beating the new Extreme primals before we even get to them. We've yet to clear any of the 3.0 EXses besides the first two.

Valkyrie

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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #902 on: March 13, 2017, 11:16:52 PM »
Sunblade, you're on Ultros? PT too? I know Bebpo is on Hyperion at least.

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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #903 on: March 14, 2017, 12:28:55 AM »
nah we're all on hyperion, sorry :/
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Valkyrie

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« Reply #904 on: March 14, 2017, 12:31:12 AM »
 :(

Bebpo

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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #905 on: March 14, 2017, 04:50:27 PM »
So I know I've said this before, but I'm finally quitting FFXIV for real this time (sorta).  Had some light insomnia last night so was doing some crafting leves trade-ins, getting my crafters to lvl.45 and at the end I was like wtf am I doing.  Yeah, doing the daily GC crafting turn-ins is only like 45 mins a day of work, but when I only have 3-4 free hours each night, that's like a 1/4th of my free time spent every night just crafting and turning in.  At around 360 hours now and at least 1/3rd of that time has just been crafting.  That's like 120 hours that I could spent on more fun things to do.  And what have I gotten out of my 120 hours+ of crafting/gathering?  Nothing really.  I haven't made any money (in fact considering I spend 100k-300k a day on mats, I've probably spent 10-20 million gil; I'd probably be much in-game richer if I never get into crafting at all), haven't made any cool items outside a couple of minions, etc... the only drive has been that one day when I hit the level cap at 60 the crafting jobs will be useful. 
...but by the time I get there SB will be out and then it'll be lvl.70 and being lvl.60 will be sorta useless.  If SB wasn't coming out so soon I'd be more motivated.

Anyhow, I deleted FFXIV last night.  I'm gonna take that daily hour back for my life.  After I finished Zelda/Nier and some other small stuff I'll re-install it and play through HW->3.5 and all the combat content with my NIN.  But I'm over the crafting/gathering/2nd jobs/etc.... I'll just stick with my ninja and enjoy going through the content for the rest of FFXIV's life.  This was my first MMO and being a completionist I got way too into doing everything, but that's just a bad bad idea for time efficiency in MMOs. 


Lucretius

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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #906 on: March 14, 2017, 05:27:16 PM »
i only crafted when I was hardcore raiding. Culinarian was essential for raid food. Other than that, screw crafting!
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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #907 on: March 14, 2017, 07:17:32 PM »
you'll be back! no one can stay away forever. no one!

but yeah dude priorities. do the msq and some other stuff you find fun. don't waste a bunch of time on grinding out side content.
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SpeedStats

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« Reply #908 on: March 15, 2017, 05:16:55 PM »
So I know I've said this before, but I'm finally quitting FFXIV for real this time (sorta).  Had some light insomnia last night so was doing some crafting leves trade-ins, getting my crafters to lvl.45 and at the end I was like wtf am I doing.  Yeah, doing the daily GC crafting turn-ins is only like 45 mins a day of work, but when I only have 3-4 free hours each night, that's like a 1/4th of my free time spent every night just crafting and turning in.  At around 360 hours now and at least 1/3rd of that time has just been crafting.  That's like 120 hours that I could spent on more fun things to do.  And what have I gotten out of my 120 hours+ of crafting/gathering?  Nothing really.  I haven't made any money (in fact considering I spend 100k-300k a day on mats, I've probably spent 10-20 million gil; I'd probably be much in-game richer if I never get into crafting at all), haven't made any cool items outside a couple of minions, etc... the only drive has been that one day when I hit the level cap at 60 the crafting jobs will be useful. 
...but by the time I get there SB will be out and then it'll be lvl.70 and being lvl.60 will be sorta useless.  If SB wasn't coming out so soon I'd be more motivated.

Anyhow, I deleted FFXIV last night.  I'm gonna take that daily hour back for my life.  After I finished Zelda/Nier and some other small stuff I'll re-install it and play through HW->3.5 and all the combat content with my NIN.  But I'm over the crafting/gathering/2nd jobs/etc.... I'll just stick with my ninja and enjoy going through the content for the rest of FFXIV's life.  This was my first MMO and being a completionist I got way too into doing everything, but that's just a bad bad idea for time efficiency in MMOs.

When you start playing again, just do the MSQ and concentrate a little more on battle classes.  If you end up doing your weekly challenge log even just a little you can make some money just by fulfilling the minimum requirements for it. By the time you finish the MSQ and start levelling up other battle classes, you'll have done those those awful moogle quests in Churning Mists to unlock the crafting beast tribe in HW.  You can get Glass Fibres easy from them to sell on the market board, and you get to level up your level 50 crafters easily enough.  But definitely get the MSQ out of the way and continue doing it into the patch content so you don't burn out on the game's frills like crafting and gathering.  A lot of options open up to you and become dramatically easier when you have at least one class at 60 since you can go anywhere and many level 60 quests open up to you.  The weekly Wondrous Tails at level 60 is a good way of getting tomes to gear up, and to get stuff to make money from.  Same with the crafter/gatherer equivalent which was added in 3.55.

XIV was my first MMO since stuff like RuneScape, and I'm enjoying it a lot more because I feel like I can go at my own pace and no one really gives a shit about how slowly or how quickly I'm going.  If I'm getting way too into a grind, Sunblade thankfully tells me to cut it out, then we go to netflix n chill.  Just remember that you /don't/ have to do everything. If it's more beneficial to you to focus on one thing at a time, go for it. I did that when I worked in a hospital lab while finishing up school with limited free time last year, and I was pretty happy with my progress in-game at that point.

When I started crafting for profit, I ran into similar issues: I spent too much on materials and I ended up not getting as many returns on it. Now I... uh, make more money than Sunblade does.  This is fine because we're saving up for a house in Stormblood, I guess? I don't know what he thinks of it lol.  What I ended up learning early was that even just the tiniest earning contributes a lot to your overall funds. If people keep undercutting on the market board, even if the undercutting is crazy obnoxious, it's fine.  I made my initial 15 million on crafting mats and orchestrion rolls (either acquired from Aquapolis, raids, or mats I made myself).  I learned early that people don't like making their own crafting mats, and while it's tiny money at first, it starts adding up. Another idea is to stick to a gil threshold.  My current one is 32-33 mil, and I refuse to spend money to go below that, even on mats. If I'm at that threshold, I suck it up and gather my own mats. I also learned that going through your crafting logs and crafting everything in there expends more money than you want depending on the market.  People hate getting mats and just buy the mats off the board, so that's a good option to start with. It's slow, but it's a consistent profit. I have other strats, but that's mostly looking at the market board every now and then every day to see where material or gear shortages are.

That's even with the big hit that the market board took since 3.4/3.5 due to PotD drops/Diadem drops.  PotD drops screwed a lot of crafters/desynthers, so a lot of us had to look elsewhere for profit.  I used to craft High Allagan Replicas, Primal Weapons, etc for profit, and I used to desynth a lot of stuff for BC3s, FC3s, or demimateria.  But since PotD hands HQ sets out like candy, several of my profit avenues were cut.  So I do more market research than I did before.  I don't make glamour prisms because at least 2-3 people on our server monopolize that market and it's funny to watch. 

Definitely taking time off doesn't hurt.  Take a month or two off and you'll be able to catch up if you focus on MSQ and NIN.  I took 1-3 months off from heavy play in Oct-Dec since I was studying for my medical exam at the time, and I was pretty happy coming back.

Bebpo

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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #909 on: April 14, 2017, 03:34:06 PM »
Got my Encyclopedia Eorzea in the mail today.  Really should get back and finish HW before SB. 

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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #910 on: April 14, 2017, 04:17:40 PM »
you should, especially since the encyclopedia covers up to 3.3. and, y'know, stick to the main stuff and save the grinding for when you're bored :p
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bluemax

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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #911 on: April 14, 2017, 07:47:47 PM »
NO

Freyj

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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #912 on: April 15, 2017, 03:36:58 PM »
How long does 3.56 MSQ take to run through?

I'm not sure if I'll come back for the SB release given that I've had Zelda for 3-4 weeks and I'm not halfway done with it yet, nevermind Persona 5 and Nier sitting on the shelf, but I'd like to finish up HW and come to SB after a patch or two.

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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #913 on: April 15, 2017, 04:10:24 PM »
just 3.56? like... two hours at most maybe? iirc it's just some single-player battles and a bunch of cutscenes.
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Freyj

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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #914 on: April 16, 2017, 11:16:48 AM »
That seems odd to split off into its own patch. Not much of a carrot.

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« Reply #915 on: April 16, 2017, 03:15:36 PM »
yeah it was kinda odd. not sure why it wasn't included in 3.5; i figure either the cutscenes weren't done or they just wanted to have SOMETHING to fill the big gap before summer.
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bluemax

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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #916 on: April 17, 2017, 02:04:07 PM »
Played most of the weekend, making use of 2 of my 4 free days of play. Finished the Sylph story and finally got one job to 30 and unlocked my first "job". Also got my chocobo, which makes travelling a bit easier. Kinda wish I could turn off Chocobo music to listen to area music instead sometimes.
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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #917 on: April 17, 2017, 02:32:56 PM »
you can and should turn it off. i think it's under the audio tab.
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Bebpo

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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #918 on: April 17, 2017, 03:42:50 PM »
Yeah, I didn't realize you could for a long long time, and afterwards I realized I'd never really heard half of the area BGMs since I was always on my chocobo in them.

bluemax

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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #919 on: April 17, 2017, 05:29:55 PM »
Oh nice, well next time I play in 6 months I'll try to remember that.
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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #920 on: April 18, 2017, 11:29:52 AM »
i take choco taxis all the time bc I'm cheap. i would have died if I hadn't found that option.

in other news, I finally beat the hard version of Heavensward's final boss! holy shit that was a motherfucker, even with current gear and the echo. people who beat that on release are GODS bc that's one of the most complicated fights I've come across in a game.
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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #921 on: April 28, 2017, 03:39:16 PM »
they mentioned more changes in 4.0, including:

-A FUCKING AETHERITE CRYSTAL IN THE ULDAH MARKETS YESSSS
-SERIOUSLY WHO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE FINALLY A FUCKING AETHERITE
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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #922 on: April 28, 2017, 03:43:32 PM »
ok but for real, we got:

pspro support
running no longer takes tp
spearfishing
eastern emojis
an app for chat and the market board
30th anniversary event
changes to specialist actions in crafting
can bring squadrons into dungeons
140 slots for inventory and 35 for armory
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Bebpo

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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #923 on: April 28, 2017, 06:04:56 PM »
Wait, can take squadrons into dungeons aka game is now single player??

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« Reply #924 on: April 28, 2017, 06:44:01 PM »
i don't know bc i didn't really see details beyond that. they said it wouldn't be implemented till a later patch, like 4.1. i gotta imagine there's a catch; can't imagine they'd program fully-functional ai for a feature that would fuck up matchmaking.
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Bebpo

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« Reply #925 on: April 28, 2017, 06:48:54 PM »
Yeah, seems unlikely.  Would be nice for nights I'm too tired to socialize and just want to blow through chunks of the MSQ.

Valkyrie

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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #926 on: April 28, 2017, 06:58:52 PM »
they mentioned more changes in 4.0, including:

-A FUCKING AETHERITE CRYSTAL IN THE ULDAH MARKETS YESSSS
-SERIOUSLY WHO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE FINALLY A FUCKING AETHERITE
This honestly makes me consider playing again. :lol

Lucretius

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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #927 on: April 28, 2017, 07:29:45 PM »
Still no teleport to Vesper Bay though. 
  :'(
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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #928 on: April 28, 2017, 09:00:51 PM »
they'll never budge in that. sure would be nice if they pointed out the boat from limsa to new players tho.
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« Reply #929 on: May 22, 2017, 05:12:43 PM »
http://www.novacrystallis.com/2017/05/letter-producer-live-xxxvi-summary/

Lots and lots of stormblood system changes from today's live letter, but some pertinent ones:

Bebpo's complaints about PVP were heard:
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So, the PvP will change thusly: any job over Level 30 can participate. Your PvP attributes will be determined by your battle role. Gear has been changed to glamour only. There will also be a new PvP Hotbar for each Job, so that you don’t have to mess with your hotbars when doing PvP content. When you zone into the Wolves’ Den Pier — your hotbars will automatically change to PvP Mode.

PvP actions are now PvP specific. Each job will get nine actions, and two selectable actions from a pool of other actions, three Traits, as well as Adrenaline Rush. This will allow them to adjust PvP without affecting PvE balance. Direction requirements for melee DPS have been removed. Consolidated combos will also free up hotbar space for more maneuverability and less complexity.

PvE Mechanic Changes:

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— Parry has changed to “Tenacity” which will increase damage dealt and mitigate damage received.
— Accuracy has been removed as we know it and has been changed to Direct Hit. Hitting an enemy from the front will be 100%, but at the flank this will be higher — say 110%, 120%. Having the Blind or Accuracy Down status will reduce this rate, so be sure to cleanse it. Direct Hit will trigger more often than a Critical Hit; if they land at the same time it’ll look exciting. Heaven’s Eye materia will be changed from Accuracy to Direct Hit.
— Piety has been demoted to a sub-attribute; it’ll still have the same effect of increasing MP. It’ll be re-attributed on gear with Piety, which will only be available for healers.
— Tank damage calculation will be returned to Strength instead of Vitality, but accessories have been changed to be role-specific so tanks cannot equip DPS accessories.
— Healers have a new role action called “Rescue” which will allow you to yank another player out of danger.

The individual job specific UI for each job:



Trailer showcasing new/altered actions:



Obligatory new summoner toy:





« Last Edit: May 23, 2017, 03:17:44 PM by The Legend of Sunblade »

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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #930 on: May 22, 2017, 05:39:11 PM »
been playing a lot of pvp lately so I'm suuuuuper excited about the changes! also the new ui gauges are the upgrade I never knew I always wanted.
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Freyj

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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #931 on: May 22, 2017, 09:56:40 PM »
NIN, SMN, SAM (maybe MNK) look to be the winners there.

RDM building via cast / spending via melee is kind of uninteresting despite being flashy.

Bebpo

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« Reply #932 on: May 22, 2017, 10:34:03 PM »
Looks sweet!

Almost ready to jump back into HW!

Valkyrie

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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #933 on: May 23, 2017, 05:52:16 AM »
I wanna get back into this game, but I don't wanna be a tank anymore. Can anyone recommend a good DPS class for solo process? But something that also works well in party. Both ranged and melee is fine with me, if I can't be picky. But maybe ranged would be preferred. Something good for survival, and pulling, maybe.

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« Reply #934 on: May 23, 2017, 03:28:33 PM »
Its hard to give a good rec when a lot of the jobs are having seemingly drastic retoolings for Stormblood, but Dragoon is a good, solid DPS choice for Melee and Bard / Machinist are the go to ranged jobs, all three of which are great in parties.

Bebpo

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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #935 on: May 28, 2017, 01:28:02 AM »
Logged on for the first time in a few months and PT was online! :) Was a nice welcome back :D

First thing I did after logging on (well, after spending 15 minutes trying to remember my login credentials), was go to my retainers and sell EVERYTHING in my 4 retainers inventory + my character inventory outside of battle equipment & unsellable/untradeable unique items. All Mats GONE. Once 2 of them finish selling the bulk on the AH, I'm gonna go remove them from my account and just stick to a hunting retainer & mining retainer to grab stuff to sell.

This time around I'm ignoring the crafting/gathering game/jobs completely and my sub-jobs completely and just going to play the story + sidequests as my NIN to catch up for SB and then I'll do the same in SB. Going to try to avoid burnout this time around by avoiding grind stuff. 

Did a few MSQ and sidequests and it was nice being back. Was in Tailfeather and progressed a bit through that and it's a nice map. Really like the music.

Will be cool if I can get to SB before SB comes out just to experience for the first time the experience of a packed with players area all around the same level hanging out and doing FATEs together. That seems like it'd be a lot of fun, but I've always been behind the boat since I jumped in. Gotta catch up!

When does the SB early access period start? Do we know yet?

Bebpo

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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #936 on: May 30, 2017, 01:18:50 PM »
Sorry PT and Sunblades, world transfered over to Ultros this morning so I could play with duckroll whose around the same story point as me. Might change back later on if I'm unhappy on Ultros. Just with Hyperion didn't really have any social stuff going on and was pretty much a SP game the entire time, so it'd be nice to have people to play with.

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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #937 on: May 30, 2017, 01:43:19 PM »
no prob bebs. good luck out there!
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Akala

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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #938 on: May 30, 2017, 08:55:51 PM »
Looking to buy a Medium house by the time housing becomes available because people are literally throwing hundreds of thousands of gil on cheap-to-make minions.  8)

I have an alt on ultros but never joined the guild lol

Bebpo

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« Reply #939 on: May 31, 2017, 01:32:50 AM »
Beat Ravina. Have no idea what was going on but somehow survived. First time we wiped in the 2nd phase where suddenly everyone was dead except me and the tank and then we died because no healers. No one talked so I had no idea why everyone else suddenly died but on the 2nd run they didn't die and we won  :yeshrug

Got to Sohm Ai dungeon. Will queue up for it the next time. Almost have enough wind aetherys to fly in Dravonia. Just missing 1 quest one and 1 map one but there's a big chunk of the map in the upper left that I haven't explored yet. Music was really nice in this place.


Hey, considering where I am in HW, if I casually play just the MSQ, am I going to be able to finish HW->3.5 in about 3 weeks when SB comes out? Or is that a lot of content and I'll need to play a lot to get all that done in 3 weeks?

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« Reply #940 on: May 31, 2017, 08:46:13 AM »
you might not get it all done, but you'll prolly be close. I felt like the patch msq were shorter bc they had less filler bullshit like the 2.x ones did. you still got a ways to go in hs tho.
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Bebpo

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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #941 on: May 31, 2017, 09:26:17 PM »
Did Sohm Al, was alright. Now I can fly in Forelands, yay.

So its interesting seeing the difference between server populations. I'm finding on Ultros v Hyperion:

-It's much harder to make money on Ultros. The AH markets are crap for everything and stuff selling for 500-1k is selling for like 100 gil on Ultros. Way more competition and it doesn't seem like there's a lot of crafters buying right now. Not sure how I'll make money besides the 8k from daily trial roulette. Right now I don't need money since I'm done with crafting, but when I do need money this could be an issue, dunno.

-Queues seem about the same.

-I haven't played enough to do a proper sample, but the couple of random teams I've matched with in DF on Ultros seem a lot more new players, non-talking players, dumb players. On Hyperion I felt like every time I did DF, 3/4ths or at least 1/2 the team were pros and knew exactly what to do and explained it to everyone. On Ultros I feel like I get 1 person who knows what they're doing and they may give a few comments if asked and then everyone else just kinda wings it. It may be that there's more new people playing on Ultros (GAF probably brings a chunk in?) vs Hyperion is like everyone is lvl.60 pro community. It's gone ok so far (kinda taking a little longer on trials/dungeons than I'm used to), but on tough stuff I may need to do PF with people from the GAF FC if the DF won't cut it here.

Anyhow, I like Hyperion better, but I'll see how this goes.

SpeedStats

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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #942 on: June 02, 2017, 10:38:15 PM »
Sorry to see you go, Bebpo. I have heard some oddball urban legends about Ultros (and the GAF FC via other boards--they had an infamous bad rep for a while but I'm not sure if they still do... they're one of the bigger FCs on that server), but what you said kinda lines up. In general, most message boards (ign, chan, gb, gaf, etc) play on the server so there are more new folks than old.

As for catching up for Stormblood, when I was catching up through ARR for HW, I finished the 2.0 quests a few hours before maint. Then I did the patch content during early access, and we had discovered that they added gear to each quest for people to catch up with so they didn't have to grind it out. They might do that again, so if you'd like you can definitely wait until EA just to do the HW patch 3.1-3.56 stuff. No rush since they might do the same thing. If you just stick to the MSQ for 3.x, it won't take long really. 

As for Stormblood, I think I'll just stick with what I got: SCH/NIN/BRD/WHM.  New Bard is a new class basically (oh boy learning Bard for the third time!!!), and Scholar/Ninja are kind of the same.  I... also main White Mage, uh...  yeah idk. I always thought White Mage was the most balanced healer of the three, and nothing in their toolkit ever really went to waste. Their 50-60 kit was one of the best of the HW jobs. From what I see in Stormblood, their kit is still balanced but some of the new skills force you to play the way you don't play white mage. WHM still looks to be the Queen of AoE out of the three healers but I'm displeased with the tools they gave us otherwise. I'm not really compelled to play the new jobs right away until I finish up my main classes but Samurai looks better than it originally did. I had zero interest before the Very Merri video for it.

Meanwhile Astrologian seems to have gotten buffed up the butt again (to the point where their shields rival Scholar's or might even better!) so I'm doing my AST relic even harder now. What a shame. It's not a thing the class needed overall, and I was hoping they'd get rid of the hybrid garbage and make it its own class with a focus on buffs like it should've been all along. :/

Bebpo

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« Reply #943 on: June 03, 2017, 01:48:17 AM »
Yeah, my only worry is I don't want to miss the boat by a month or two and then everyone's moved on and I have to wait another two years. Like going through these HW areas like Churning Mists now, they're ghost empty and so the fates are basically dead unless you just want to solo them which is zzz. I can just imagine how cool it would have been to be going around these areas with dozens of hundreds of others stumbling across and joining big Fate groups along the way. I've never seen anywhere outside of the three original cities and quarrymill full of people and I'd really like to see map areas populated.

I also want to start SB at 60 and it's funny but I want to be constantly level locked in the MSQ. Why? Because I feel like I'd really like to take the story & exploration more slowly and stop and do all the "!" quests as they unlock along the way to explore the areas out, spend more time and learn more about the NPCs. Since I'm still catching up on the MSQ and overleveled having come into HW at 55 from 2.0-2.5 content, there's not a lot of motivation to take my time and do small quests and then later on after the story arc is done it's hard to get motivated to do them. It feels like the perfect pacing is to do them along the way as you go through the journey.

I just unlocked the Aery, lvl.55 dungeon in MSQ, so I'm guessing I'm about halfway through 3.0's story. I should finish it no problem before SB comes out, so after that I'll be rushing through 3.1-3.5 as fast as I can to get to SB before everyone beats the story and leaves the map fields. Unlike 2.1-2.5 where I did everything, Coil, Crystal Tower, all hard dungeons, extreme bosses. I'll probably skip Alexander, the 24-man raid, hard dungeons & extreme bosses and only do the 3.1-3.5 MSQ, get to SB, do SB's MSQ and then go back and do all the 3.1-3.5 optional content while waiting for the 4.1-4.5 content to roll out.

It's not the most normal progression order, but it's probably the best chance I have to join the exploring SB with thousands of other players experience which I'm guessing only last about a month or two after an expansion's release.

Idk, for those who were there at HW's release, how long did the HW maps stay populated and people out doing Fates before they all disappeared and you only saw people in cities and dungeons?

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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #944 on: June 03, 2017, 02:28:03 AM »
people move on whenever a new patch is released. i think 4.1 won't be out til winter at the earliest, so you have plenty of time. i still dont think you'll see tons of people out doing fates or whatever, but there'll still be people around that you can recruit or whatever if you really wanna do some.

i dunno, i just dont want you to get your hopes up too much that youll see a lot more organic grouping when you catch up :lol in my experience, going thru current content means seeing a shitload of people that stand around the questgiver, plus a bunch more teleporting or summoning mounts when they're finished. they rush to the quest location, trigger whatever, then ride back and finish the quest. the end. people still end up using pf to group up; it's just easier when it's current content because you'll find more people that are interested in what you're doing.
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Bebpo

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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #945 on: June 03, 2017, 03:59:35 AM »
Yeah, I may have an idealistic view of what an MMO is like playing current content since I've never played an MMO before this, so this will be my first time playing one in an area that's new and current.

Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #946 on: June 03, 2017, 04:16:14 AM »
People will basically be populating the maps for FATEs and junk for as long as they have jobs to level. It'll be a while since SB is raising everything to 70.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/6ezipv/356_heavensward_combat_gearing_guide_and_content/

Linking this for you to reference once you've beaten 3.0's story. Absolutely look into the Void Ark 24 man raid series once you're there, since its the quickest way to gear up for Stormblood and people are still running all three raids for that purpose.
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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #947 on: June 03, 2017, 05:18:37 AM »
Hmmm, I thought everyone just does PoTD to level second jobs.

So the gist I'm getting is 1-2 months after HW's launch there were still a good amount of people seen in the HW areas? Because I figure even if I do Void Ark & Alexander, I should be at SB by like a month after its release.

I guess the only other fun thing about being day 1 to new content is getting in a new dungeon or trial and someone says "mechanics?" Amd basically everyone in the party throws up their hands, says "idk, first time" and then rushes in and dies and learns some stuff as the fight goes along.

Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #948 on: June 03, 2017, 12:55:37 PM »
People will be around SB's areas for a few months, yeah. They only get vacated once the things to do in them dry up, which wont be for a while. The 3.X MSQ is much more lean than ARR's, so you can totally reach Stormblood before Early Access on the 16th. I'm just mentioning the Void Ark raids since its the quickest way to gear up for the MSQ, because they changed the loot from the CT raids so every boss drops two chests vs a single one, making it easier to grab stuff for your class.

PotD only really applies for Level 50-60. There won't be an equivalent to it in Stormblood at launch, and Stormblood leveling dungeons and the level 60-70 FATEs will likely give more experience than POTD does, since its capped at 60.

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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #949 on: June 04, 2017, 03:22:37 AM »
Finished The Aery, all the cool story stuff, The Vault, and now back sea of clouds Vanu tribe. Really colorful!
Some good story bits in there, I didn't really like Dragoon dude and thought he was angsty but after The Aery I like him now. BLOOD ARMOR.
Feels kinda good when you finish a dungeon and all 3 other players give you a commendation :heart being nice and friendly and hugging everyone seems to go a long way
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HW is a pretty good rpg adventure so far. I feel like I'm getting closer to the end, but even if there's not a ton left I'm happy with the size of the expansion. Feels like a full rpg story arc.

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Re: The Ul'Dah 2.5x arc resolution in HW:

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While they wrapped it up ok, I kinda wish they'd actually killed off the Sultana because it feels like it'd have more world impact instead of everything being the same now with her back. Like being an MMO it sorta feels like nothing can ever change with the default cities because it's an MMO.

I also think it'd be cool if they went even further/darker and really killed off all the Scions at the end of 2.55 along with Sultana. Like dead dead. That'd be a pretty great end to the opening chapter of the MC & Alpha-elf's story that they lose everything and have to start fresh and rebuild. But FFXIV is still fairly generic and happy storytelling for teens, so of course no one other than little side characters or evil bad guys actually dies.
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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #950 on: June 04, 2017, 08:25:51 PM »
A smile better suits a hero.  :japancry

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The Uldah resolution was pretty weak, but I didn't mind it because Nanamo/Raubahn are my favorite City leaders.  :lol You'll get the deaths/consequences you're asking for soon enough.
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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #951 on: June 04, 2017, 09:06:17 PM »
Bismark was fun! The first time I wiped right away because no one told me anything and I got stunned and knocked off in a combo >< Then I watched the team fight for 15 mins since it took 2 full attack waves to take out his back and then they couldn't kill him in 1 so they were about to get their 4th attack on him when they lost a healer and then a tank and then wiped.

The next attempt I didn't fall off and we took out his back thing in one go and then took him out in one go because we had enough DPS with myself included this time. Was nice because I actually got to do the fight and feel useful! :)

Was kinda neat how the fight is a mix of Leviathon x Titan x Garuda.

Then the troll cutscene when your about to go to the final area and then OH WAIT THERE IS A MAGIC WALL AGAIN, NOPE TIME TO GO BACK TO ISHGARD  :lol

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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #952 on: June 05, 2017, 10:55:23 AM »
yeah some of that 2.5 resolution was comic book level bullshit that really cheapens the story imo. I still like it overall and there was only one plot point afterwards that really made me roll my eyes.

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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #953 on: June 06, 2017, 01:14:30 AM »
Here I thought I was at the end of HW at the sea of clouds after Bismark. Final dungeon appeared and all. Was just gonna wrap it up over a couple nights and move into 3.X

Then WOAH DRAVANIA HINTERLANDS :O Entire another area outta nowhere! (that looks like a PS2 game) And then Idyllshire! New unexpected city and there's tons of people in it!! :O (except that it tanks the framerate and looks like a PS2 area)
Yeah, HW is very substantial. When I think "expansion" I think like some 30 hour gaiden thing. This is a complete adventure with lots of cool stuff. Seeing all the turn-in systems and loot/gear makes me a little sad that I missed all the ARR turn-in stuff and all the HW turn-in stuff (where you're slowly upping your gear 10 ilevels at a time per patch). At least I'll finally be there for SB post-MSQ turn-in gear. Hope the post-MSQ content is great in SB!

Really excited for SB now if it'll have this much content. Pretty glad I was in the dark about HW and knew nothing about it besides Ishgard and Dragoons vs Dragons. Will try my best to stay in the dark about SB. All I know is it's Ala Migo & Japan and there's some Japanese-style bosses.

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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #954 on: June 06, 2017, 09:55:49 AM »
the Hinterlands looks like a ps2 area? sir please you wound me
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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #955 on: June 06, 2017, 03:52:21 PM »
I can see that. Some cool bits, but I think concessions made for flying make the HW zones look worse overall than the ARR ones.

I will miss out on early access/launch =(

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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #956 on: June 06, 2017, 03:56:56 PM »
Bebpo one thing you'll probably dig that you missed out on (assuming they do it again) is the final hub (Mor Dhona and Idyllshire thus far) began as settlements/ruins and expanded gradually with each patch.

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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #957 on: June 06, 2017, 04:17:04 PM »
why you missing early access?

also while I think the geometry of the hs maps is simpler, I like them a lot more just bc the overall art design is extremely good, and there's a lot of neat like areas of interest all over each map. it was a lot of fun exploring them for the sightseeing log.
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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #958 on: June 06, 2017, 04:19:21 PM »
Oh, Hinterlands looks better than I thought. Sometimes the time of day/weather/flat lighting does areas no favors when you first go to them. I like the second half of the map visually a lot more.
That's cool about Mor Dhona/Idyllshire expanding each patch. Hope they do that again in SB so I can see it happen in real time. I should google some vids of how those places originally looked.

Unlocked the great libary dungeon, so will do that next time. I have the Vath and Zundu beast tribes unlocked so I looked up how to unlock the Moogle beast tribe and wtf at 20+ normal quest chain to get to it...yeah, fuck that. I'll do it after SB at some point.

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Re: I got FFXIV
« Reply #959 on: June 06, 2017, 04:43:23 PM »
told you this game would make you hate moogles if you let it. :p I do all a town's sidequests before I move on, and the moogles have like 80 quests, all about hide and seek out some bullshit. I was so ready to leave churning mists after all that.

in the other hand all the beast tribes are much improved. you only do three quests max instead of 9 like 2.0, and flying makes it take only a few minutes at most. very worth doing.
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