Author Topic: The Other Forums Thread for 90's Kids ONLY  (Read 2847208 times)

0 Members and 7 Guests are viewing this topic.

Mr Gilhaney

  • Gay and suicidal
  • Senior Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1320 on: November 08, 2017, 01:29:09 PM »
Even without knowing much about Colin Moriarty political view, he is an extremely annoying cunt. Even his face annoys me.

Joe Molotov

  • I'm much more humble than you would understand.
  • Administrator
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1321 on: November 08, 2017, 01:31:32 PM »
Is he the guy from Who's Line is it Anyway? I liked him, he was funny.
©@©™

Jansen

  • Senior Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1322 on: November 08, 2017, 01:32:39 PM »

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1454974&page=7

Quote from: GAR-OU;252993749
Prior to the purge if you took my posts at face value without context you'd think I was a toxic, racist, sexist, gamergater, white, Nazi member of the alt-right. In reality, I'm black, voted Obama twice, and Sanders. I voted Trump this time around because of a core group of hard left leaning, identity politic group hijacked the Dem party, and also continues to, in my view, degrade the quality of games & game companies with their agendas. I'd say Neogaf moderation was full of these types of people in fact, along with many of the posters who left in the purge. So it's not that I'm "alt-right", but I'm working with them because I dislike the "Social Studies Warrior" even more.

I think Sanders could have been a fine candidate had he not bowed down to the Social Studies Warriors and Hillary Clinton. For that reason I've adopted an extreme anti-Social Studies Warrior stance, which naturally gets confused for me being alt-right, but I'm anything but.

Quote from: GAR-OU;252993861
Here's the thing, Social Studies Warriors are working with literal communists and anarchists. I'm about to get REALLY controversial and my even get banned here for this, but hear me out. Nazis were horrible monsters that did unspeakable acts in the name of discrimination against specific groups. Absolutely unacceptable. However, Communism has, despite it's good intentions, killed millions more people regardless of their sex, race, gender, or religion. So while Nazis actively discriminate, they still have killed significantly LESS people with their ideology than communists have.

So while yes Nazis are horrible, communists are arguably even worse. I really wish the media and the Left would denounce communism the way they do Nazis, but they never do. It's always an excuse about how it wasn't true communism. However, because communism isn't racist it's actually seen in a better light by Social Studies Warriors, and Nazis are the number one evil because they were racist and mean. So I'm far from being pro-Nazi, but I think it's disingenuous to freak out over Nazis when Commies are arguably worse, yet there's not the same fear for some reason.

Yet again identity politics provides cover for terrible ideas and excuses it from persecution. That's basically the whole reason I hate Social Studies Warriors.

Quote from: GAR-OU;252993901
Horizon Zero Dawn, Mafia 3, and Watchdogs 2 as examples. All three of these games made quite a deal about "diversity" and "inclusion", and if you dared speak against the very obvious agenda being pushed in these games with the way certain characters were included and implemented in the story, you were either called racist or sexist. The problem isn't with having women or blacks in games, the issue is that said groups are often times shoved into games to make a political statement of some kind by Social Studies Warriors. That's what causes controversy.

For the most extreme example just look at Wolfenstein 2. Jesus Christ, the marketing team directly implied Trump and his supporters to be Nazis multiple times with their twitter campaign.

Quote from: GAR-OU;252993941
But again, I'd be boned regardless with Commies in charge as well. So in an absolutely worst case, I'd rather take my chances with Nazis than live in a Communists state where no matter how equally the system views me, I'm still screwed.

Quote from: GAR-OU;252993969
Perhaps I am, but that doesn't make me wrong. You can't tell me that Communism is a lesser evil than Nazism. Social Studies Warriors hate Nazis, but are basically totally fine with Communism taking over. I think the alt-right would be far less likely to become full Nazi than Social Studies Warriors to become full Commie.

Quote from: GAR-OU;252994013
If I voted for either of those two then there's a very good chance Hillary Clinton and her Social Studies Warrior horde would have won. I don't trust Social Studies Warriors to have power. The alt-right aren't that great either, but I think they're far more open to logic and reason, despite their racism/sexism, than Social Studies Warriors who operate purely on emotion and are easy to manipulate.



Look up Communism's kill count vs Nazism. Less people died in the Holocaust than Commies have killed total, by like millions. Despite that Social Studies Warriors don't at all share nearly the same hatred towards Commies that they should, that's not acceptable.

Quote from: GAR-OU;252994057
What exactly about my arguments do you find "asinine", that I believe Communism to be the far bigger evil than Nazism despite it's good intentions? Are you saying Communism is ideal to Nazism? What exactly are you taking issue with? Do you believe Social Studies Warriors are less likely to be brainwashed and go full Commie than Alt-Right going full Nazi?

Quote from: GAR-OU;252994071
Be specific about what you don't agree with. My contention is that Communism is far more evil than Nazism, and that Social Studies Warriors, being as overly emotional as they are and easy to manipulate, are much more likely to go full Commie than the Alt-RIght is likely to go full Nazi. Both are terrible, but one is clearly worse than the other, with a group much more likely to be indoctrinated.

Clockwork5

  • Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1323 on: November 08, 2017, 01:36:47 PM »
Why are we posting Steve Bannon's diary?

etiolate

  • Senior Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1324 on: November 08, 2017, 01:45:15 PM »
Just cleaning this up so it doesn't become a quote pyramid.



What strikes me actually is how little credence is given to things like Obama being elected. Sure racism hasn't ended, but it means something right? It's not nothing.


There's some argument that it's actually increased since Obama, if not in numbers then increased in ferocity. My first instinct is that for some reason that tribe feels threatened and the outpouring of behavior is in response to that. What threatens them? Not sure.

seagrams hotsauce

  • Senior Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1325 on: November 08, 2017, 01:50:31 PM »
Looks like Jansen found Joe McCarthys alt

Jenkem

  • MARANAX INFIRMUX
  • Senior Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1326 on: November 08, 2017, 01:59:39 PM »
Novid is what you get when you feed Etoliate after midnight.

tiesto

  • ルカルカ★ナイトフィーバー
  • Senior Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1327 on: November 08, 2017, 02:03:06 PM »
I still can not believe that Colin Moriarty is too consevative for anyone. The man hates Trump with a passion and can't shut up about it. He is more socially liberal than most Libertarians, and is moderate as fuck on economics. Is this all still about the dad joke?

Moriarty strikes me as the stereotypical douchebag LIer, I'm so used to the type so he doesn't bother me. Don't see why people treat him like public enemy #1.
^_^

HardcoreRetro

  • Punk Mushi no Onna
  • Senior Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1328 on: November 08, 2017, 02:08:24 PM »
Have you ever seen a commie drink a glass of water?

etiolate

  • Senior Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1329 on: November 08, 2017, 02:09:52 PM »
Colin gets hate because he was within the clique and left. He was in the bay area, a part of the whole douchey game journalist vibe, and was on a pod that GAF liked. Then he started saying "dangerous" things, made a joke, and peaced out. Not only that, but he moved on by essentially saying game journalist was a side thing and his real love was history, which sent the terrible message that vidya  and vidya press isn't serious.

railGUN

  • If my bones are breaking would you tell me that I'm weak?
  • Senior Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1330 on: November 08, 2017, 02:17:58 PM »
More Russian spam bots  :lol

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=252994299&postcount=31

Ahhh... good times, good times.

Also, as a master computer hacker, I decided to perform a traceroute on neogaf.com - it doesn't appear to be landing on liquidweb.com anymore -- me thinks maybe a server downgrade has happened? The site seems to load a bit slower than a few days ago, and I kinda doubt it's because of heavy traffic load.
Fish<

zomgee

  • We've *all*
  • Senior Member
rub

Nabbis

  • oops
  • Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1332 on: November 08, 2017, 02:33:46 PM »
I can't even shitpost to that crap.

Leadbelly

  • Senior Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1333 on: November 08, 2017, 02:35:50 PM »
Just cleaning this up so it doesn't become a quote pyramid.



What strikes me actually is how little credence is given to things like Obama being elected. Sure racism hasn't ended, but it means something right? It's not nothing.


There's some argument that it's actually increased since Obama, if not in numbers then increased in ferocity. My first instinct is that for some reason that tribe feels threatened and the outpouring of behavior is in response to that. What threatens them? Not sure.

Islam is a genuine fear for a number of people for obvious reasons. Right-wing populism has seen a significant upsurge particularly in Europe, which I imagine is fueled by Islamic terrorism and the migrant crisis. A lot of people no longer have the stomach for it any more. The levels of immigration into Europe has been absolutely unprecedented over the last decade, and people are now worried about what it means for the future. The thing is, the Left doesn't have any answers, in fact the mainstream political parties from all sides don't really have any answers, which is why there has been an upsurge in populism to begin with.

What is clear though is, the Left no longer speaks for white working-class voters and this is a big problem. They are only exasperating the problem.

Pills Here

  • Junior Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1334 on: November 08, 2017, 02:49:32 PM »
"Schreier: None of Bethesda's games since Fallout 4 have been very high interest to Kotaku readers"

Who the fuck is Kotaku relevant to?

Novid

  • Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1335 on: November 08, 2017, 02:54:00 PM »
Why isn't novid lepered yet
You cant lepered the shepherd of lost ECW Muties

HardcoreRetro

  • Punk Mushi no Onna
  • Senior Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1336 on: November 08, 2017, 02:54:23 PM »
As a dev or as a publisher?

Novid

  • Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1337 on: November 08, 2017, 02:56:11 PM »
Thats why you have growth in say a Phoenix for example over say Boston. Or More Growth in Atlanta as most of these larger northern cities with heavy black populations get gentrified.

For all intents, the coastal cites act like they are a NATION set apart from federal government and as well as their state government, but use state and federal funds to propagate there existence.

Hmm.. how does Seattle, probably the most liberal city in the country, and one of the fastest growing, fit into your narrative?

And cities where all of the jobs are, thus a huge portion of the tax revenue, are a burden on the State and Federal governments?  The fuck?  lol
its called creative accounting, all of the major cities do it. See whats going on in Illinois, motherfuckers raiding the pension box.

fizzel

  • Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1338 on: November 08, 2017, 02:57:28 PM »
Just cleaning this up so it doesn't become a quote pyramid.



What strikes me actually is how little credence is given to things like Obama being elected. Sure racism hasn't ended, but it means something right? It's not nothing.


There's some argument that it's actually increased since Obama, if not in numbers then increased in ferocity. My first instinct is that for some reason that tribe feels threatened and the outpouring of behavior is in response to that. What threatens them? Not sure.

Islam is a genuine fear for a number of people for obvious reasons. Right-wing populism has seen a significant upsurge particularly in Europe, which I imagine is fueled by Islamic terrorism and the migrant crisis. A lot of people no longer have the stomach for it any more. The levels of immigration into Europe has been absolutely unprecedented over the last decade, and people are now worried about what it means for the future. The thing is, the Left doesn't have any answers, in fact the mainstream political parties from all sides don't really have any answers, which is why there has been an upsurge in populism to begin with.

What is clear though is, the Left no longer speaks for white working-class voters and this is a big problem. They are only exasperating the problem.

The Left (and centre) have repeatedly and unequivocally made it clear that there isn't a problem in the first place, and if you dare to disagree they attempt to make a pariah of you.

People are not going to sit back and let their countries turn in to third world shitholes to sate do-gooder bellyfeels. The mother of all arse kickings is brewing and it will not be pleasant to watch or experience.

Novid

  • Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1339 on: November 08, 2017, 02:58:13 PM »
"Schreier: None of Bethesda's games since Fallout 4 have been very high interest to Kotaku readers"

Who the fuck is Kotaku relevant to?
Those that go to the Philippines like Schreier and Gracison to find a call boy

Marhunchy

  • Junior Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1340 on: November 08, 2017, 03:03:22 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/amazon-orders-garth-ennis-and-darick-robertson’s-‘the-boys’-to-series.4820/

Ok, i don't know much about Ennis, but everytime a thread about him appears it is swarmed

What has this guy done?

Novid

  • Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1341 on: November 08, 2017, 03:03:33 PM »
Just cleaning this up so it doesn't become a quote pyramid.



What strikes me actually is how little credence is given to things like Obama being elected. Sure racism hasn't ended, but it means something right? It's not nothing.


There's some argument that it's actually increased since Obama, if not in numbers then increased in ferocity. My first instinct is that for some reason that tribe feels threatened and the outpouring of behavior is in response to that. What threatens them? Not sure.

Islam is a genuine fear for a number of people for obvious reasons. Right-wing populism has seen a significant upsurge particularly in Europe, which I imagine is fueled by Islamic terrorism and the migrant crisis. A lot of people no longer have the stomach for it any more. The levels of immigration into Europe has been absolutely unprecedented over the last decade, and people are now worried about what it means for the future. The thing is, the Left doesn't have any answers, in fact the mainstream political parties from all sides don't really have any answers, which is why there has been an upsurge in populism to begin with.

What is clear though is, the Left no longer speaks for white working-class voters and this is a big problem. They are only exasperating the problem.

The Left (and centre) have repeatedly and unequivocally made it clear that there isn't a problem in the first place, and if you dare to disagree they attempt to make a pariah of you.

People are not going to sit back and let their countries turn in to third world shitholes to sate do-gooder bellyfeels. The mother of all arse kickings is brewing and it will not be pleasant to watch or experience.
You want to see shit go down, when that pogrom starts motherfuckers will let the blood stick to the walls, they wount even clean up the mess. Forget arse kickings. Try Genocide just as bad as WWII and they would all go to jail for it.

VomKriege

  • Do the moron
  • Senior Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1342 on: November 08, 2017, 03:34:01 PM »
Garth Ennis is a outspoken writer and he love using foul words and naughty stories. Not exactly subtle but can be powerful. He's Frank Miller without the crypto-troubled views.

He's always been hassled because of how crass, vulgar and outrageous his stories can be. In Preacher it was because the bad guy turned into a shameful gay after being raped by a cockney private dick.
ὕβρις

Himu

  • Senior Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1343 on: November 08, 2017, 03:45:26 PM »

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1454974&page=7

Quote from: GAR-OU;252993749
Prior to the purge if you took my posts at face value without context you'd think I was a toxic, racist, sexist, gamergater, white, Nazi member of the alt-right. In reality, I'm black, voted Obama twice, and Sanders. I voted Trump this time around because of a core group of hard left leaning, identity politic group hijacked the Dem party, and also continues to, in my view, degrade the quality of games & game companies with their agendas. I'd say Neogaf moderation was full of these types of people in fact, along with many of the posters who left in the purge. So it's not that I'm "alt-right", but I'm working with them because I dislike the "Social Studies Warrior" even more.

I think Sanders could have been a fine candidate had he not bowed down to the Social Studies Warriors and Hillary Clinton. For that reason I've adopted an extreme anti-Social Studies Warrior stance, which naturally gets confused for me being alt-right, but I'm anything but.

Quote from: GAR-OU;252993861
Here's the thing, Social Studies Warriors are working with literal communists and anarchists. I'm about to get REALLY controversial and my even get banned here for this, but hear me out. Nazis were horrible monsters that did unspeakable acts in the name of discrimination against specific groups. Absolutely unacceptable. However, Communism has, despite it's good intentions, killed millions more people regardless of their sex, race, gender, or religion. So while Nazis actively discriminate, they still have killed significantly LESS people with their ideology than communists have.

So while yes Nazis are horrible, communists are arguably even worse. I really wish the media and the Left would denounce communism the way they do Nazis, but they never do. It's always an excuse about how it wasn't true communism. However, because communism isn't racist it's actually seen in a better light by Social Studies Warriors, and Nazis are the number one evil because they were racist and mean. So I'm far from being pro-Nazi, but I think it's disingenuous to freak out over Nazis when Commies are arguably worse, yet there's not the same fear for some reason.

Yet again identity politics provides cover for terrible ideas and excuses it from persecution. That's basically the whole reason I hate Social Studies Warriors.

Quote from: GAR-OU;252993901
Horizon Zero Dawn, Mafia 3, and Watchdogs 2 as examples. All three of these games made quite a deal about "diversity" and "inclusion", and if you dared speak against the very obvious agenda being pushed in these games with the way certain characters were included and implemented in the story, you were either called racist or sexist. The problem isn't with having women or blacks in games, the issue is that said groups are often times shoved into games to make a political statement of some kind by Social Studies Warriors. That's what causes controversy.

For the most extreme example just look at Wolfenstein 2. Jesus Christ, the marketing team directly implied Trump and his supporters to be Nazis multiple times with their twitter campaign.

Quote from: GAR-OU;252993941
But again, I'd be boned regardless with Commies in charge as well. So in an absolutely worst case, I'd rather take my chances with Nazis than live in a Communists state where no matter how equally the system views me, I'm still screwed.

Quote from: GAR-OU;252993969
Perhaps I am, but that doesn't make me wrong. You can't tell me that Communism is a lesser evil than Nazism. Social Studies Warriors hate Nazis, but are basically totally fine with Communism taking over. I think the alt-right would be far less likely to become full Nazi than Social Studies Warriors to become full Commie.

Quote from: GAR-OU;252994013
If I voted for either of those two then there's a very good chance Hillary Clinton and her Social Studies Warrior horde would have won. I don't trust Social Studies Warriors to have power. The alt-right aren't that great either, but I think they're far more open to logic and reason, despite their racism/sexism, than Social Studies Warriors who operate purely on emotion and are easy to manipulate.



Look up Communism's kill count vs Nazism. Less people died in the Holocaust than Commies have killed total, by like millions. Despite that Social Studies Warriors don't at all share nearly the same hatred towards Commies that they should, that's not acceptable.

Quote from: GAR-OU;252994057
What exactly about my arguments do you find "asinine", that I believe Communism to be the far bigger evil than Nazism despite it's good intentions? Are you saying Communism is ideal to Nazism? What exactly are you taking issue with? Do you believe Social Studies Warriors are less likely to be brainwashed and go full Commie than Alt-Right going full Nazi?

Quote from: GAR-OU;252994071
Be specific about what you don't agree with. My contention is that Communism is far more evil than Nazism, and that Social Studies Warriors, being as overly emotional as they are and easy to manipulate, are much more likely to go full Commie than the Alt-RIght is likely to go full Nazi. Both are terrible, but one is clearly worse than the other, with a group much more likely to be indoctrinated.

Go "I'm black" as cover for when you bitch about games having diversity and inclusion. A black man bitching about a video game talking about race and featuring a black person? Lol.

Right. Hahaha. Right, riiiiight.

:heh
IYKYK

paprikastaude

  • Senior Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1344 on: November 08, 2017, 03:49:59 PM »
Just cleaning this up so it doesn't become a quote pyramid.



What strikes me actually is how little credence is given to things like Obama being elected. Sure racism hasn't ended, but it means something right? It's not nothing.


There's some argument that it's actually increased since Obama, if not in numbers then increased in ferocity. My first instinct is that for some reason that tribe feels threatened and the outpouring of behavior is in response to that. What threatens them? Not sure.

Islam is a genuine fear for a number of people for obvious reasons. Right-wing populism has seen a significant upsurge particularly in Europe, which I imagine is fueled by Islamic terrorism and the migrant crisis. A lot of people no longer have the stomach for it any more. The levels of immigration into Europe has been absolutely unprecedented over the last decade, and people are now worried about what it means for the future. The thing is, the Left doesn't have any answers, in fact the mainstream political parties from all sides don't really have any answers, which is why there has been an upsurge in populism to begin with.

What is clear though is, the Left no longer speaks for white working-class voters and this is a big problem. They are only exasperating the problem.

Historically, the current wave of refugees isn't even that big in most countries. Big cities are effected the most and that's where right wings had the smallest growth. If there's a failure on the left, then it's that it apparently wasn't possible to properly educate people in rural areas. It's like a left behind cosmos now inhabited by distinguished mentally-challenged rednecks who are afraid of brown people that they've only ever heard of, who don't understand globalisation and vote the fear mongering parties that will fuck them over the most, because they lack basic critical thinking.

railGUN

  • If my bones are breaking would you tell me that I'm weak?
  • Senior Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1345 on: November 08, 2017, 03:58:45 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=252992735&postcount=8

(Image removed from quote.)

qwality stuff guys

That shower thread got deleted outright  :lol

Guess the veil was too thin.


Nevermind, just the post got nuked.
« Last Edit: November 08, 2017, 04:23:41 PM by railGUN »
Fish<

Novid

  • Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1346 on: November 08, 2017, 03:59:54 PM »
Just cleaning this up so it doesn't become a quote pyramid.



What strikes me actually is how little credence is given to things like Obama being elected. Sure racism hasn't ended, but it means something right? It's not nothing.


There's some argument that it's actually increased since Obama, if not in numbers then increased in ferocity. My first instinct is that for some reason that tribe feels threatened and the outpouring of behavior is in response to that. What threatens them? Not sure.

Islam is a genuine fear for a number of people for obvious reasons. Right-wing populism has seen a significant upsurge particularly in Europe, which I imagine is fueled by Islamic terrorism and the migrant crisis. A lot of people no longer have the stomach for it any more. The levels of immigration into Europe has been absolutely unprecedented over the last decade, and people are now worried about what it means for the future. The thing is, the Left doesn't have any answers, in fact the mainstream political parties from all sides don't really have any answers, which is why there has been an upsurge in populism to begin with.

What is clear though is, the Left no longer speaks for white working-class voters and this is a big problem. They are only exasperating the problem.

Historically, the current wave of refugees isn't even that big in most countries. Big cities are effected the most and that's where right wings had the smallest growth. If there's a failure on the left, then it's that it apparently wasn't possible to properly educate people in rural areas. It's like a left behind cosmos now inhabited by distinguished mentally-challenged rednecks who are afraid of brown people that they've only ever heard of, who don't understand globalisation and vote the fear mongering parties that will fuck them over the most, because they lack basic critical thinking.
Globalization without a commitment to Human Space Exploration, is Exploitation of Human Beings to the point of Global Slavery.

Leadbelly

  • Senior Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1347 on: November 08, 2017, 04:01:18 PM »
Just cleaning this up so it doesn't become a quote pyramid.



What strikes me actually is how little credence is given to things like Obama being elected. Sure racism hasn't ended, but it means something right? It's not nothing.


There's some argument that it's actually increased since Obama, if not in numbers then increased in ferocity. My first instinct is that for some reason that tribe feels threatened and the outpouring of behavior is in response to that. What threatens them? Not sure.

Islam is a genuine fear for a number of people for obvious reasons. Right-wing populism has seen a significant upsurge particularly in Europe, which I imagine is fueled by Islamic terrorism and the migrant crisis. A lot of people no longer have the stomach for it any more. The levels of immigration into Europe has been absolutely unprecedented over the last decade, and people are now worried about what it means for the future. The thing is, the Left doesn't have any answers, in fact the mainstream political parties from all sides don't really have any answers, which is why there has been an upsurge in populism to begin with.

What is clear though is, the Left no longer speaks for white working-class voters and this is a big problem. They are only exasperating the problem.

Historically, the current wave of refugees isn't even that big in most countries. Big cities are effected the most and that's where right wings had the smallest growth. If there's a failure on the left, then it's that it apparently wasn't possible to properly educate people in rural areas. It's like a left behind cosmos now inhabited by distinguished mentally-challenged rednecks who are afraid of brown people that they've only ever heard of, who don't understand globalisation and vote the fear mongering parties that will fuck them over the most, because they lack basic critical thinking.

Well first of all, the destination of migrants tends to be the richer European countries as opposed to the poorer ones. That said it is the sustained levels of immigration year over year where it is unprecedented. Take the UK for example: before 98 the level of immigration was around 40,000 a year. In recent years it was around 300,000 net and increasing.

etiolate

  • Senior Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1348 on: November 08, 2017, 04:03:12 PM »
Just cleaning this up so it doesn't become a quote pyramid.



What strikes me actually is how little credence is given to things like Obama being elected. Sure racism hasn't ended, but it means something right? It's not nothing.


There's some argument that it's actually increased since Obama, if not in numbers then increased in ferocity. My first instinct is that for some reason that tribe feels threatened and the outpouring of behavior is in response to that. What threatens them? Not sure.

Islam is a genuine fear for a number of people for obvious reasons. Right-wing populism has seen a significant upsurge particularly in Europe, which I imagine is fueled by Islamic terrorism and the migrant crisis. A lot of people no longer have the stomach for it any more. The levels of immigration into Europe has been absolutely unprecedented over the last decade, and people are now worried about what it means for the future. The thing is, the Left doesn't have any answers, in fact the mainstream political parties from all sides don't really have any answers, which is why there has been an upsurge in populism to begin with.

What is clear though is, the Left no longer speaks for white working-class voters and this is a big problem. They are only exasperating the problem.

Not sure I was clear. The tribe I refer to is the social justice tribe or the "racism everywhere" tribe. Right leaning populism (even tho the same populism shows up in pretty socialist leaning anti-immigration forms in Europe) is clearly about the dissonance between immigration impact and public messages. Both political sides know Islamist ideology is a threat, but I agree they have no clue as to how to deal with it and so they don't talk about it. Anyone who pops up to at least name it can get support.

The "everything is racist" tribe isn't a response to that response, as it precedes the current populism movement.

Skullfuckers Anonymous

  • Will hunt bullies for fruit baskets. PM for details.
  • Senior Member

ToxicAdam

  • captain of my capsized ship
  • Senior Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1350 on: November 08, 2017, 04:14:54 PM »
 :-*



curly

  • cultural maoist
  • Senior Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1352 on: November 08, 2017, 04:19:26 PM »

Globalization without a commitment to Human Space Exploration, is Exploitation of Human Beings to the point of Global Slavery.

OK maybe Novid is actually good

samfish

  • Cereal mispeller
  • Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1353 on: November 08, 2017, 04:27:06 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/posts/705697/

Yikes. Who would ever want a hot woman to do that to you? Not me, because I’m a good male feminist.


Optimus

  • Lieutenant colonel, 26th Hate Machine battalion
  • Senior Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1355 on: November 08, 2017, 04:36:41 PM »

Go "I'm black" as cover for when you bitch about games having diversity and inclusion. A black man bitching about a video game talking about race and featuring a black person? Lol.

Right. Hahaha. Right, riiiiight.

:heh


Yes, how can a black person have different views than other black people? As we know all blacks are Hollywood movie black people now, not one of them hates SJ Ws, or is obsessing about "communism", or doesn't like liberals obsessing with diversity or in fact likes that idiot Trump, or even has wrong opinions. Blacks are all following a specific stereotype, I mean stereotypes are wrong but you can make them right if it's a positive stereotype. Like, you know, all asians are good at math.

...turns out horseshoe theory is correct.

Leadbelly

  • Senior Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1356 on: November 08, 2017, 04:44:08 PM »

Go "I'm black" as cover for when you bitch about games having diversity and inclusion. A black man bitching about a video game talking about race and featuring a black person? Lol.

Right. Hahaha. Right, riiiiight.

:heh


Yes, how can a black person have different views than other black people? As we know all blacks are Hollywood movie black people now, not one of them hates SJ Ws, or is obsessing about "communism", or doesn't like liberals obsessing with diversity or in fact likes that idiot Trump, or even has wrong opinions. Blacks are all following a specific stereotype, I mean stereotypes are wrong but you can make them right if it's a positive stereotype. Like, you know, all asians are good at math.

...turns out horseshoe theory is correct.

What if a Left leaning black man questioned the level of police brutality against black people? I wonder what Bish would think about that.

Oh wait... look


Joe Molotov

  • I'm much more humble than you would understand.
  • Administrator
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1358 on: November 08, 2017, 04:57:46 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/battlefront-iis-problematic-space-nazi-singleplayer-campaign.4872/

::)

Quote
*Thread was created for contributor/member “GinoFelino" as part of Adopt a User Program.

Wait, what? If you're a newbie what can't post good, there's a Big Brother/Big Sister program you have to join to get someone to create a post for you? Sounds wilde homo, tbqh. Can I adopt nudemacuser?
:supergay
©@©™

Optimus

  • Lieutenant colonel, 26th Hate Machine battalion
  • Senior Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1359 on: November 08, 2017, 04:57:59 PM »

Go "I'm black" as cover for when you bitch about games having diversity and inclusion. A black man bitching about a video game talking about race and featuring a black person? Lol.

Right. Hahaha. Right, riiiiight.

:heh


Yes, how can a black person have different views than other black people? As we know all blacks are Hollywood movie black people now, not one of them hates SJ Ws, or is obsessing about "communism", or doesn't like liberals obsessing with diversity or in fact likes that idiot Trump, or even has wrong opinions. Blacks are all following a specific stereotype, I mean stereotypes are wrong but you can make them right if it's a positive stereotype. Like, you know, all asians are good at math.

...turns out horseshoe theory is correct.

What if a Left leaning black man questioned the level of police brutality against black people? I wonder what Bish would think about that.

Oh wait... look



Yeah, this isn't surprising to me. A decent part of the left that isn't distinguished mentally-challenged has realized that they're being played by the neoliberal status quo and their corporate media with this onslaught of identity politics bullshit. Spiked is part of that left.

That is not to say that we have fixed society and racial/gender relations, what they're saying is that this identity politics obsessed toxic environment that media have created and the gullible liberals and even leftists blindly followed and helped preserve has made matters much MUCH worse for everyone.

Leadbelly

  • Senior Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1360 on: November 08, 2017, 05:04:52 PM »


Yeah, this isn't surprising to me. A decent part of the left that isn't distinguished mentally-challenged has realized that they're being played by the neoliberal status quo and their corporate media with this onslaught of identity politics bullshit. Spiked is part of that left.

That is not to say that we have fixed society and racial/gender relations, what they're saying is that this identity politics obsessed toxic environment that media have created and the gullible liberals and even leftists blindly followed and helped preserve has made matters much MUCH worse for everyone.

Yeah. In terms of Spiked, I kind of like the argument brendan O'neill made about the Left not being Left. He called them 'reactionaries'. I kind of like the idea of riling them up by denying their leftist credentials. lol


Boredfrom

  • Senior Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1361 on: November 08, 2017, 05:18:17 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/battlefront-iis-problematic-space-nazi-singleplayer-campaign.4872/

::)

Can we discuss this than the pseudo populist shit?

Because some users in Resetera are really competing for show who is the most woke.

thisismyusername

  • GunOn™! Apply directly to forehead!
  • Senior Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1362 on: November 08, 2017, 05:26:27 PM »
I still can not believe that Colin Moriarty is too consevative for anyone. The man hates Trump with a passion and can't shut up about it. He is more socially liberal than most Libertarians, and is moderate as fuck on economics. Is this all still about the dad joke?

Nah, he's batshit crazy in some opinions which made me dislike him. Maybe he just comes off as an utter tool on Twitter, though.



Purple Filth

  • This cosmic dance of bursting decadence and withheld permissions twists all our arms collectively, but if sweetness can win—and it can—then I'll still be here tomorrow to high-five you yesterday, my friend. Peace
  • Senior Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1365 on: November 08, 2017, 05:44:26 PM »
I still can not believe that Colin Moriarty is too consevative for anyone. The man hates Trump with a passion and can't shut up about it. He is more socially liberal than most Libertarians, and is moderate as fuck on economics. Is this all still about the dad joke?

He's just an idiot with a soap box.  :yeshrug

nachobro

  • Live Más
  • Senior Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1366 on: November 08, 2017, 05:46:45 PM »
Harass me Mariah :noah

Himu

  • Senior Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1367 on: November 08, 2017, 05:46:57 PM »

Go "I'm black" as cover for when you bitch about games having diversity and inclusion. A black man bitching about a video game talking about race and featuring a black person? Lol.

Right. Hahaha. Right, riiiiight.

:heh


Yes, how can a black person have different views than other black people? As we know all blacks are Hollywood movie black people now, not one of them hates SJ Ws, or is obsessing about "communism", or doesn't like liberals obsessing with diversity or in fact likes that idiot Trump, or even has wrong opinions. Blacks are all following a specific stereotype, I mean stereotypes are wrong but you can make them right if it's a positive stereotype. Like, you know, all asians are good at math.

...turns out horseshoe theory is correct.

:heh

Black people have our own opinions. But a black person being mad a video game had a diverse cast? A black person? :lol They might be apathetic to it but consider it part of the problem? :lol In a medium that is historically overwhelmingly lacking in black characters? Every black person I know who has saw Mafia had a similar reaction. I cannot fathom a black dude being MAD that entertainment is trying to become more diverse and include black people. Not all black people think the same, but we all agree that representation and seeing people who look like you is important. At most, you'll find an ambivalent black person who doesn't care. But being mad at it? Saying it's part of the problem? :heh I can sniff out a cac pretending to be black online like a fox hound and that person ain't black. The only kind of diversity black folks have a problem with is showing LGBT people as normal. That dude is 90% most likely a cac.
IYKYK


Tokyosandblaster

  • Junior Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1369 on: November 08, 2017, 06:18:36 PM »

Go "I'm black" as cover for when you bitch about games having diversity and inclusion. A black man bitching about a video game talking about race and featuring a black person? Lol.

Right. Hahaha. Right, riiiiight.

:heh


Yes, how can a black person have different views than other black people? As we know all blacks are Hollywood movie black people now, not one of them hates SJ Ws, or is obsessing about "communism", or doesn't like liberals obsessing with diversity or in fact likes that idiot Trump, or even has wrong opinions. Blacks are all following a specific stereotype, I mean stereotypes are wrong but you can make them right if it's a positive stereotype. Like, you know, all asians are good at math.

...turns out horseshoe theory is correct.

:heh

Black people have our own opinions. But a black person being mad a video game had a diverse cast? A black person? :lol They might be apathetic to it but consider it part of the problem? :lol In a medium that is historically overwhelmingly lacking in black characters? Every black person I know who has saw Mafia had a similar reaction. I cannot fathom a black dude being MAD that entertainment is trying to become more diverse and include black people. Not all black people think the same, but we all agree that representation and seeing people who look like you is important. At most, you'll find an ambivalent black person who doesn't care. But being mad at it? Saying it's part of the problem? :heh I can sniff out a cac pretending to be black online like a fox hound and that person ain't black. The only kind of diversity black folks have a problem with is showing LGBT people as normal. That dude is 90% most likely a cac.
You're black?


stufte

  • Senior Senior Senior Senior Senior Senior Senior Senior Senior Senior Senior Senior
  • Senior Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1371 on: November 08, 2017, 06:21:18 PM »
Why is it that people can't separate fantasy from reality these days? Playing as the empire or a bad guy doesn't make you a bad guy. WTF.

Jenkem

  • MARANAX INFIRMUX
  • Senior Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1372 on: November 08, 2017, 06:26:40 PM »
There's a clear reason why many people are afraid of Muslim expansion and it's actually quite simple.

It's called history.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Europe

paprikastaude

  • Senior Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1373 on: November 08, 2017, 06:48:27 PM »
There's a clear reason why many people are afraid of Muslim expansion and it's actually quite simple.

It's called history.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Europe

The average voter of rightwing populists probably thinks the middle ages were when the pyramids were built.

samfish

  • Cereal mispeller
  • Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1374 on: November 08, 2017, 06:51:02 PM »
Why is it that people can't separate fantasy from reality these days? Playing as the empire or a bad guy doesn't make you a bad guy. WTF.

Yes it does. All of your actions reflect on you.

BisMarckie

  • Senior Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1375 on: November 08, 2017, 06:51:34 PM »
There's a clear reason why many people are afraid of Muslim expansion and it's actually quite simple.

It's called history.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Europe

Charles Martel. Never forget  :salute

I remember my grandfather telling me stories how they defeated these lousy Moops.

samfish

  • Cereal mispeller
  • Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1376 on: November 08, 2017, 06:52:41 PM »
^^for example, I support effective slavery because I typed that response on my phone.

On a website that doesn’t have a mobile theme in 2017.

Rufus

  • 🙈🙉🙊
  • Senior Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1377 on: November 08, 2017, 07:12:28 PM »
It seems like some people don't understand the difference between reality and fiction, or more particularly between real humans and ones who only exist as a construct on paper, canvas, or computer monitor.
They understand, but disagree with your premise. Personally, I don't want to see porn of fictional children, either. And anyone who does is suspect to me.

Optimus

  • Lieutenant colonel, 26th Hate Machine battalion
  • Senior Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1378 on: November 08, 2017, 07:13:53 PM »

:heh

Black people have our own opinions. But a black person being mad a video game had a diverse cast? A black person? :lol They might be apathetic to it but consider it part of the problem? :lol In a medium that is historically overwhelmingly lacking in black characters? Every black person I know who has saw Mafia had a similar reaction. I cannot fathom a black dude being MAD that entertainment is trying to become more diverse and include black people. Not all black people think the same, but we all agree that representation and seeing people who look like you is important. At most, you'll find an ambivalent black person who doesn't care. But being mad at it? Saying it's part of the problem? :heh I can sniff out a cac pretending to be black online like a fox hound and that person ain't black. The only kind of diversity black folks have a problem with is showing LGBT people as normal. That dude is 90% most likely a cac.


Except you're only proving this guy right with your ridiculous strawman. He's not annoyed because there's "diversity" he's annoyed because of the agenda pushing. And for the record, I don't know in what liberal bubble you've been living but I know plenty of black men specifically that fucking hate with passion SJ Ws and their politics. Not so far as to support republicans but yeah, the contempt is obvious.






Goddamn, he's right, they did replace racial determinism with historical one. The more you analyze these lunatics the more you realize how much in common they have with conservatives.

Assimilate

  • Now bringing you *Zen*
  • Senior Member
Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #1379 on: November 08, 2017, 07:24:09 PM »
There's a clear reason why many people are afraid of Muslim expansion and it's actually quite simple.

It's called history.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Europe

:comeon
Is it not ok to be weary of a certain ideology that is the antithesis to western principles to spread all across your neighborhood? I guess only when it's a white christian faith then you can shit all over it lol.

It's fucking hilarious watching the uproar over some Christian bakery not want to bake cake for a gay couple in Alabama or whatever but then watch those same people defend some Muslims for far worse bigotry.  :rofl