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« Reply #1080 on: May 05, 2018, 05:45:24 PM »
I watched that for 2 minutes before I couldnt anymore, it would be at home in the bad feels thread
J and L to skip 10s backward or forward respectively (and K to pause). Indispensable.
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« Reply #1081 on: May 06, 2018, 08:18:33 AM »

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« Reply #1082 on: May 06, 2018, 12:08:12 PM »
more like :donot


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« Reply #1084 on: May 06, 2018, 04:29:12 PM »
It's even better because that's how he looks like when he's with one of his friends. :neogaf

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« Reply #1085 on: May 06, 2018, 10:53:58 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LqZdkkBDas

Re-posting this here because it's good (cringey skits aside).

nowhere near as bad as people are making it out to be. the humor was contrived, kooky nerd shit. however, whether you agree with her or not, she presented a critique that was concise, eloquent and earnest.
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« Reply #1086 on: May 06, 2018, 11:47:55 PM »
It occurred to me that if Youtube were around in the 60's, people would be posting videos with titles like "WILLIAM F. BUCKLEY BREAKS JAMES BALDWIN ON THE WHEEL OF LOGIC."

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« Reply #1087 on: May 07, 2018, 12:19:15 AM »
that's why I roam the countryside destroying server farms

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« Reply #1088 on: May 08, 2018, 06:57:22 PM »
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/08/opinion/intellectual-dark-web.html

Bari Weiss doing an intro to the IDW for NYT readers. This reads like she wants the IDW figures to be gatekeepers while realizing that the current gatekeeping is what the whole thing is against.

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« Reply #1089 on: May 08, 2018, 07:15:05 PM »




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« Reply #1090 on: May 08, 2018, 09:21:17 PM »
I can't get over the fact that these goobers got together and decided to name their movement after the sub-level of the internet known for things like fraud services and sharing child porn.

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« Reply #1091 on: May 09, 2018, 08:59:48 AM »


anyone listen to this? I generally cant give a fuck about religion and is god real or whatever dumb arguments there is to be had about religion itself, do they get into the societal effects of religion or is this straight theology?

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« Reply #1092 on: May 09, 2018, 12:27:30 PM »
Haven't heard it yet, but I'll give it a quick lesson to see what part of religion they talk about.

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« Reply #1093 on: May 09, 2018, 12:43:06 PM »
I ended up listening and its a lot of straight theology  :stahp

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« Reply #1094 on: May 10, 2018, 12:52:15 PM »
I like that it's called Waking Up when just listening to the first minute already put me to sleep.

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« Reply #1095 on: May 10, 2018, 12:57:13 PM »
He does have the perfect voice for a computer AI.

I listened to about half of that one, but it was mostly going over biblical passages rather than religion or the religion itself.

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« Reply #1096 on: May 11, 2018, 12:58:05 AM »

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« Reply #1097 on: May 11, 2018, 08:22:44 AM »
You can see why the stand up comedy thing didn’t work out.

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« Reply #1098 on: May 11, 2018, 09:07:24 AM »
yeah at the start he's trying to do 'comedian addressing a heckler' and it fails, then he becomes angry. Eventually after and during the chick that takes the mic he finds his way.

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« Reply #1099 on: May 11, 2018, 10:48:20 AM »
https://twitter.com/PeteCarroll/status/994709685826605056

Milo is probably gonna speak there next week.
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« Reply #1100 on: May 11, 2018, 10:54:49 AM »
Baseball or NFL team?

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« Reply #1101 on: May 11, 2018, 11:21:27 AM »
NFL
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« Reply #1102 on: May 11, 2018, 11:26:11 AM »
why the fuck would they want to listen to JP or Milo? That makes no sense

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« Reply #1103 on: May 11, 2018, 12:48:28 PM »
No idea. I was joking about milo though.
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« Reply #1105 on: May 11, 2018, 02:31:01 PM »
Pete Carroll's also flirted with 9/11 trutherism. Definitely has interests outside of football.

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« Reply #1106 on: May 11, 2018, 02:40:51 PM »
Peterson as a motivational speaker for a team cracks me up.

LIFE IS SUFFERING.IT HAS BEEN FOR MILLIONS OF YEARS. GO SEAHAWKS.

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« Reply #1107 on: May 12, 2018, 08:52:43 PM »


Putting this here even though its a run down of the 2016 election, because its a critique of the narrative/data on how Trump got elected. Also, because I remember some of that data and found the conclusions reached from the questions asked were giant leaps of logic.

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« Reply #1108 on: May 13, 2018, 01:38:15 AM »
R-squared obviously isn't the end-all be-all, but for that study he cites, they got .002 for the casualty rate. Also by their own results the racial makeup, ruralness, and education levels of a county were each larger factors in the 2012->2016 vote shift.

Imagine the need to exculpate Trump voters being so strong that you wind up doing all these mental gymnastics. Seems exhausting.

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« Reply #1109 on: May 13, 2018, 02:37:12 AM »
You realize we all know you didn't watch the video right?


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« Reply #1110 on: May 13, 2018, 02:55:06 AM »
Of course not. Reading the rtf file is like 5 times faster.

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« Reply #1111 on: May 13, 2018, 03:13:31 AM »
Thread was better when it was Intellectual Wank Dad thread, modz plz
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« Reply #1112 on: May 15, 2018, 03:20:57 AM »
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/may/14/patreon-rise-jordan-peterson-online-membership
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The rise of Patreon – the website that makes Jordan Peterson $80k a month

In five years, online membership service Patreon has attracted two million patrons supporting 100,000 ‘creators’ to the tune of $350m – including nearly $1m a year for rightwing psychologist Jordan Peterson.
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« Reply #1113 on: May 15, 2018, 03:33:07 AM »
I hope you didnt read that trash lmao

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« Reply #1114 on: May 15, 2018, 03:40:06 AM »
surprised he hasn't passed up chapo yet

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« Reply #1116 on: May 15, 2018, 12:08:06 PM »
surprised he hasn't passed up chapo yet

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Because chapo are actually funny and entertaining and kermit the frog is a boring old goober giving advice to incels

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« Reply #1117 on: May 15, 2018, 12:21:56 PM »
chapo's subreddit is douchebag city so I imagine their show is as well


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« Reply #1118 on: May 15, 2018, 01:42:49 PM »
Jordan Peterson is such a whiny little pussy.  No surprise other perpetual swirlie victims are drawn to him.

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« Reply #1119 on: May 15, 2018, 01:54:58 PM »
Any news on the debate with Zizek? Was it ever actually scheduled?

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« Reply #1120 on: May 15, 2018, 01:56:08 PM »
Any news on the debate with Zizek? Was it ever actually scheduled?

I don't think the Zizek fanpage ever responded to Peterson's challenge.

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« Reply #1121 on: May 15, 2018, 01:58:17 PM »
He can't even hold his own against some rando atheist from Texas.

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« Reply #1122 on: May 15, 2018, 02:04:03 PM »
He's got a couple of Harris debates coming up.

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« Reply #1123 on: May 15, 2018, 02:14:30 PM »
Zizek/Harris or Harris/Peterson? I dont wanna hear another Harris/Peterson debate after the last two tbh

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« Reply #1124 on: May 15, 2018, 02:16:46 PM »
I don't think the Zizek fanpage ever responded to Peterson's challenge.
Hue hue.

Seriously though, the Zero Books video agrajag posted recently has got me worried now. I need to hear them talk past each other as intensely as possible.

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« Reply #1125 on: May 15, 2018, 02:23:17 PM »
I don't think the Zizek fanpage ever responded to Peterson's challenge.
Hue hue.

Seriously though, the Zero Books video agrajag posted recently has got me worried now. I need to hear them talk past each other as intensely as possible.

Chapo already reenacted the potential Zizek/Peterson debate, that's all you'll ever need

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« Reply #1126 on: May 15, 2018, 02:24:10 PM »
Zizek/Harris or Harris/Peterson? I dont wanna hear another Harris/Peterson debate after the last two tbh

Harris/Peterson

It's supposed to have Bret Weinstein hosting the debate so it doesn't get off track. Bret says he's going to lay down some rules on definitions so they can get to the meat of the argument. (or something like that)

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« Reply #1127 on: May 15, 2018, 02:33:51 PM »
It's going to get off the rails, I guarantee it. Harris will never let Peterson get away with bible stories.

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« Reply #1128 on: May 15, 2018, 02:42:51 PM »
I am hoping they get Peterson to lay down what the religious substrate is and means with good detail and examples, and then see if Harris can wrestle with that.

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« Reply #1129 on: May 15, 2018, 04:07:57 PM »
It's going to get off the rails, I guarantee it. Harris will never let Peterson get away with bible stories.


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« Reply #1131 on: May 15, 2018, 04:13:54 PM »
"if you found me a culture that did was I just did"

But you don't find that, while you find religious cultures through all of recorded human history. And not just random cultures and random texts, but texts that lead cultures to succeed and replace older texts that offered less to the people and species. Harris isn't appreciating how we got to this point as a species by treating religion in such a manner.

Cuisine serves a purpose to human society. If you think of the concept of meals and family meals, namely the invention of soup,that's group living that takes multiple ingredients and then improves the yeild of that hunting/gathering by putting them in a pot with water and fire. So you get large meal for a group, creating social interaction and unity, while allowing uninterrupted work beyond. Maybe you even increase play time by having that group meal, which benefits you emotionally and socially.

So you can look at food and extract something out of it, but you got to do so sincerely and intelligently. Not that flying spaggheti monster sort of take Harris has there.
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« Reply #1132 on: May 15, 2018, 04:18:55 PM »
Harris' point is that Peterson's metamyth analysis is unfalsifiable and ad-hoc.
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« Reply #1133 on: May 15, 2018, 04:38:14 PM »
If anyone wants to read the essay that jake and I were posting about a while ago, it's here: https://www.academia.edu/20852194/RELIGION_SOVEREIGNTY_NATURAL_RIGHTS_AND_THE_CONSTITUENT_ELEMENTS_OF_EXPERIENCE

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« Reply #1134 on: May 15, 2018, 04:43:14 PM »
If you find value in JP dissecting parables and fairy tales you might as well put a gun to your head and pull the trigger

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« Reply #1135 on: May 15, 2018, 04:48:30 PM »
As an ess jay dubya myself I'm not really down with the "hur hur kill yourself" rhetoric.

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« Reply #1136 on: May 15, 2018, 04:53:19 PM »
As an ess jay dubya myself I'm not really down with the "hur hur kill yourself" rhetoric.

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« Reply #1137 on: May 15, 2018, 05:04:18 PM »
But you don't find that, while you find religious cultures through all of recorded human history. And not just random cultures and random texts, but texts that lead cultures to succeed and replace older texts that offered less to the people and species. Harris isn't appreciating how we got to this point as a species by treating religion in such a manner.

Perhaps he doesn't appreciate it because it doesn't appear to be true, or at least certainly not self-evident.

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« Reply #1138 on: May 15, 2018, 06:48:46 PM »
Harris' point is that Peterson's metamyth analysis is unfalsifiable and ad-hoc.

It's tough for me to call something that works across multiple disciplines and cultures as ad-hoc. Considering he goes into how the religious ideas are backed up in real life ways, I am wondering what you precisely mean by unfalsifiable and ad-hoc?

Is it just the act of interpretation that you have issue with?

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« Reply #1139 on: May 15, 2018, 10:54:00 PM »
It's tough for me to call something that works across multiple disciplines and cultures as ad-hoc.

oh really