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Quote At least we have gaming. Cant imagine having games in communism.Why wouldn't we? In a society based around Use-Value, do you really think that society as a whole would determine both that the concrete labors involved in game development were not worth putting to use, and that the unique use values of games were not worth realizing?
At least we have gaming. Cant imagine having games in communism.
Also, the whole "There would be no jobs in communism. Society would grow off of the labour of people's hobbies, be it cooking, building fences, etc" is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/are-you-pro-or-contra-globalisation.75775/ITT : We don't know what globalization is..
There is near zero utility value in making or playing videogames.Time spent making them would be better served solving societal problems, and time spent playing them would be better served in self improvement, or societal improvement.Videogames are inarguably not good for you, and arguably bad for you.
I think this is a misunderstanding of what Use-Value means under marxism. A socialist/communist society doesn't demand everything be productive, or good for you (that would be a repressive nightmare!) It (in the limited scope of this conversation) merely demands that labor be distributed based on what the products can be used for -- what unique properties a product has -- rather than distributed on what the product can be exchanged for, as in capitalist mode of production.
There is near zero utility value in making or playing videogames.
Then who ensures this system and prevents me and me friends from going off and doing what we like by ourselves and profiting off it?
I mean, same thing that stops you from doing things any kind of society doesnt want. Maybe the law, maybe culture.
The weirdest part is that they make total biscuit out to be one of the driving force behind gamergate and yet the worst I can find is that he said that gamergate didn't have a harassment problem. Stupid, but hardly piss on your grave worthy.They keep talking about how people should think of Bain's victims and yet they never say who exactly was a victim of his
No gamers, no gaming YouTubers is my socialist slogan.
There are many factors right now that speak against globalisation, most obviously the waste of CO2 used to transport goods around the world and goods produced that nobody seriously needs.
Quote from: Kara on October 19, 2018, 09:55:25 AMNo gamers, no gaming YouTubers is my socialist slogan.He who does not work, neither shall he eat play vidya. - Kara
honestly all of you people saying "capitalism is the reason we have X" don't seem to know what "capital" is.What unique properties of capitalism are necessary for the creation of games? How do you think people wrote books, songs, plays, painted paintings, and made toys before capitalism? Hell, even in Marxist-Leninist and Maoist nations (which are hardly socialist/communist by most definitions, are very repressive, and are usually in a constant state of total-war style military buildup at the expense of all luxuries) manage to make a decent amount of that stuff.
I..: I legit cannot understand resetera’s obsession with Gamergate. I hadn’t even heard that was a thing that happened until I started re-visiting this forum and yet they act like it was Holocaust 2: Holocauster. Like what the fuck
https://www.resetera.com/threads/capitalism-is-killing-gaming-noncompete.75779/
The solution is called Juche.
Dude doesn't even understand Capital describes use-value as a component of the existing capitalist society and economy. Yet he's talking about a "society based around Use-Value" and shit as if Marx was explaining a socialist/communist society in that unfinished gibberish.
Marx wrote some good fiction but all the dumb shits thought he was serious. If you think about it, it's kinda the communist take on The Art of the Deal.
The game industry needs to organize and soon, it’s working people to near death and cutting out a lot of the profits they are owed.
QuoteThe game industry needs to organize and soon, it’s working people to near death and cutting out a lot of the profits they are owed.this idea of a single global "game industry/developer" union is one of my favorite recurring ERA all-purpose one-size fits all solutions
There's a great book on actual, practical, applicable marxist theory that I recommend reading. It's long and kinda challenging but super good, and I think will help cleear up a lot of the propoganda uncle sam and daddy stalin produced.
Here's a great that describes how fascism can benefit society.It's called spoiler (click to show/hide)Animal Farm [close]
A revolutionary can and should use their iphone, and they can and should agitate for a better way to build iphones in the future.
Baby ultra-leftist libsoc: Under communism I will be able to make sweet indie games with my friends that are really just the 6.02 * 10 ^ 23 iteration of Dork Souls x Metroid x Angband because society will be unbidden and unbound by capital and AUTHORITARIAN so-called socialist STATES.Wise Marxist-Leninist: Tetris was the consequence of inadequately monitoring researchers entrusted with state property.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/john-%E2%80%9Ctotalbiscuit%E2%80%9D-bain-to-be-inducted-into-esports-hall-of-fame-as-first-non-player.75774/I wonder how this will go
I spent 60,000 USDs a year for this political science degree, and god, you just try to stop me from writing long and pointless drivel on a video game message board.
Quote from: Nintex on October 19, 2018, 10:21:47 AMHere's a great that describes how fascism can benefit society.It's called spoiler (click to show/hide)Animal Farm [close]Sounds like a book for 4yr olds
I can't tell if Pajitnov was screwed more by the communists taking his royalties or by the capitalists convincing him that wasting the best years of his life on 30 tetris clones nobody cared about was a good investment.
Do people never stop and wonder about the concept of profits. I mean, that's the whole crux."Everything I don't pay my workers... is profit!!!!""Profit" is always money not paid out to people that helped create and market the sold product. Ever thought about that? Making profit inherently exploits people.
lol at marrec wasting his time typing paragraphs trying to be reasonable in that thread
Did Tetris kill communism?
Thanks for capitalism so we can have our precious luxury toys that depend onliteral slaves mining conflict minerals in DRC,The super exploitation of chinese workers at Foxconn,the software developers who destroy their lives by crunching for years on end,The loot box and money-scheming shit we see in AAA to fatten the pockets of rich executives and investorsThe racist prevalence of white American dudes in most games because pubs fear losing moneyThe pillaging and pollution of nature to maximize quarterly revenues to push out new hardware boxesThank you capitalism!! What I wouldn’t do if it wasn’t for you and the destruction of humans and nature, just so we can watch fancy graphics on some tv screen that we forget about one week later. Surely worth the price that exploited people pay for with their lives all across the globe.
shit whats the end goal of tetris?
Quote from: https://www.resetera.com/threads/capitalism-is-killing-gaming-noncompete.75779/page-3#post-13967415Thanks for capitalism so we can have our precious luxury toys that depend onliteral slaves mining conflict minerals in DRC,The super exploitation of chinese workers at Foxconn,the software developers who destroy their lives by crunching for years on end,The loot box and money-scheming shit we see in AAA to fatten the pockets of rich executives and investorsThe racist prevalence of white American dudes in most games because pubs fear losing moneyThe pillaging and pollution of nature to maximize quarterly revenues to push out new hardware boxesThank you capitalism!! What I wouldn’t do if it wasn’t for you and the destruction of humans and nature, just so we can watch fancy graphics on some tv screen that we forget about one week later. Surely worth the price that exploited people pay for with their lives all across the globe.(Image removed from quote.)
Quote from: Propagandhim on October 19, 2018, 10:31:26 AMI can't tell if Pajitnov was screwed more by the communists taking his royalties or by the capitalists convincing him that wasting the best years of his life on 30 tetris clones nobody cared about was a good investment.That was when he was in his 30s. When he hit 40 he started getting Tetris royalties and went to work for Microsoft.I bet he never did complete any of that speech recognition software he was supposed to be making at ELORG.
Quote from: benjipwns on October 19, 2018, 10:53:29 AMQuote from: https://www.resetera.com/threads/capitalism-is-killing-gaming-noncompete.75779/page-3#post-13967415Thanks for capitalism so we can have our precious luxury toys that depend onliteral slaves mining conflict minerals in DRC,The super exploitation of chinese workers at Foxconn,the software developers who destroy their lives by crunching for years on end,The loot box and money-scheming shit we see in AAA to fatten the pockets of rich executives and investorsThe racist prevalence of white American dudes in most games because pubs fear losing moneyThe pillaging and pollution of nature to maximize quarterly revenues to push out new hardware boxesThank you capitalism!! What I wouldn’t do if it wasn’t for you and the destruction of humans and nature, just so we can watch fancy graphics on some tv screen that we forget about one week later. Surely worth the price that exploited people pay for with their lives all across the globe.(Image removed from quote.)I love how the user edited the post to enumerate their points.
What a waste. See, If I were as brilliant as Pajitnov, I wouldn't waste my time on 7 different versions of Hexic. I have this incredible idea for this mish-mash genre of Dark Souls, but Metroidvania style, with a little bit of Angband (I'm oldschool like that). I just don't know how to implement it yet
Quote from: Boredfrom on October 19, 2018, 10:55:05 AMQuote from: benjipwns on October 19, 2018, 10:53:29 AMQuote from: https://www.resetera.com/threads/capitalism-is-killing-gaming-noncompete.75779/page-3#post-13967415Thanks for capitalism so we can have our precious luxury toys that depend onliteral slaves mining conflict minerals in DRC,The super exploitation of chinese workers at Foxconn,the software developers who destroy their lives by crunching for years on end,The loot box and money-scheming shit we see in AAA to fatten the pockets of rich executives and investorsThe racist prevalence of white American dudes in most games because pubs fear losing moneyThe pillaging and pollution of nature to maximize quarterly revenues to push out new hardware boxesThank you capitalism!! What I wouldn’t do if it wasn’t for you and the destruction of humans and nature, just so we can watch fancy graphics on some tv screen that we forget about one week later. Surely worth the price that exploited people pay for with their lives all across the globe.(Image removed from quote.)I love how the user edited the post to enumerate their points."Sent from my iPhoneX™"
I honestly wish Skullgirls had a less boob-flinging chibi animu art style to it. Never played the game but I feel embarrassed just looking at the characters.
Not really because only Nintendo would be left in their perfect communist system.
OK, fine. Here, this took me about 2.5 hours:Now obviously this isn't quite the right style (I don't play this game or usually draw in this style), the design could be a bit better, it's not as polished as the official art work, but you get the idea. It doesn't take very long to design a character. I have better things to do than model this, but it's a pretty easy process that an experienced 3D artist could definitely do in a couple days. Animation obviously would take a lot longer and I never said I could do that in a week. That would take close to a year.
oh god the picture is still there from the one guy(Image removed from quote.)Quote from: https://www.neogaf.com/threads/how-the-hell-does-that-cost-x-to-make-giant-bomb-and-skullgirls.516730/page-10#post-48498198OK, fine. Here, this took me about 2.5 hours:Now obviously this isn't quite the right style (I don't play this game or usually draw in this style), the design could be a bit better, it's not as polished as the official art work, but you get the idea. It doesn't take very long to design a character. I have better things to do than model this, but it's a pretty easy process that an experienced 3D artist could definitely do in a couple days. Animation obviously would take a lot longer and I never said I could do that in a week. That would take close to a year.
You all internet traffic requires energy and materials for all the servers? This is not necessarily a good thing