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[agrajag]

arrest and ban the coons and the MAGA kids, in that order

[benjipwns]

how do i request a frank o'connor wrap-up post when this is all over

[benjipwns]

I dont follow or care about conspiracy theories. According to the reports, he told police TWICE that those two that were in the footage are the ones that attacked him and those brothers are the ones that were arrested and now let go. He just hired that defense attorney. I mean what else is there to say other than it's not looking good for him?

Eye witnesses are notoriously bad at recognizing people after an incident. It doesn’t matter if he thought that was them. Human memory is not infaliable. Feel free to look up the countless research behind it. People even start ‘remembering’ details later based on future conversation, visual cues and videos shown to them.

guess we'll never know who really did it, really it's basically impossible to know

[benjipwns]

Go ahead and discuss it. We have actual word and facts on the case now, which means this story has officially crossed into legitimate "something in the milk ain't clean" territory, and not the "I don't believe this because of the weather/Chicago/racism-isn't-that-bad-actually" cesspool it once was.

I still believe Jussie was assaulted. He was admitted into the hospital for a reason. I see no logical motive for why he'd fake an attack. But yeah, this is weird.

IGNORING THE MODPOST

[Leadbelly]

there are so many twists to this story that even M night shyamalan thinks this is too much.

There have been zero actual twists and a bunch of bullshit conspiracy theories based on a bunch of bullshit unconfirmed info.

exactly, arrest the MAGA kids already, burn down their school and salt the earth!

How so, the initial unconfirmed report was that they were part of the conspiracy in order to save his job. Yet, we now know that he was never going to lose his job and these guys had nothing to do with the attack. You guys are twisting everything against Smollett. When these guys were arrested people were saying it wasn’t looking good for Smollett since they are Nigerian and went against Smollett’s account. Now that they were released by police you guys are saying it doesn’t look good for Smollett again. Jesus fucking Christ.

They were the only ones caught on camera in the area. There could easily have been other people not caught on camera. This isn’t the dystopian future were the streets are 100% blanketed in cameras.

Well, the written out of Empire bit of that report was wrong, but... I still think there is possibly something to that report though. The reason I think that is not only did ABC continue to run with it, CBS claimed a similar thing on their report.

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/02/15/suspects-arrested-in-jussie-smollett-case/

Meantime, two sources with intimate knowledge of the investigation tells CBS 2 Investigator Brad Edwards the attack on Smollett was potentially orchestrated by the actor himself, and involved two other men.

But police said while there is no evidence documenting the alleged attack, there is also no evidence to say it is a hoax. They said Smollett is being cooperative at this time and continues to be treated as a victim, not a suspect.

I think the key word here is 'potentially'. It sounds like the sources believed it to be a hoax but had no strong evidence at that time to say it was a hoax. And so I'm not sure the reporting was completely wrong, only that it was potentially misleading.

[clothedmacuser]

Go ahead and discuss it. We have actual word and facts on the case now, which means this story has officially crossed into legitimate "something in the milk ain't clean" territory, and not the "I don't believe this because of the weather/Chicago/racism-isn't-that-bad-actually" cesspool it once was.

I still believe Jussie was assaulted. He was admitted into the hospital for a reason. I see no logical motive for why he'd fake an attack. But yeah, this is weird.

IGNORING THE MODPOST

 

You may now report what your eyes see not just what we tell you happened.


Such benevolency.  I hear they are upping the chocolate rations too.

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/how-good-was-top-secret-1984.99846/post-17944208

I only remember being fucking traumatised seeing the vibrator scene as I was a kid at the time and watching at the cinema with my parents. Fucking mortifying and it seemed to go on for years.

i don't even remember this scene and searching for it only returns this post?!?!?

also how is it the only scene you can remember from a classic, wtf happened to you as a child

[benjipwns]

Things like this are always going to seem weird when details keep dripping out and the media is filtering it, adding false reporting in some cases, and then it's being filtered by everyone else. That's why police don't share details of investigations normally, it can muddy the water, makes fact-finding harder, narratives can form. I'm sure investigations happen all the time where if you're getting bits and pieces of info as soon as they are available things won't add up or make sense, and of course it's gonna be way worse here given how heinous the attack was and Jussie being a celebrity.

[Leadbelly]

The plot thickens...
https://twitter.com/MattFinnFNC/status/1096632394080088064

[Bore Expert]

Era bracing for impact

[paprikastaude]

These fucking people

https://www.resetera.com/threads/far-cry-new-dawns-animal-dog-cruelty-is-sadistic-and-waaaay-over-the-line.99991/

guys that go "doge >> human" have the worst morals, so of course they are on reee with all the other conservative cartoon moms in disguise.

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/jussie-smollett-breaks-his-silence-after-vicious-attack-im-ok.97099/post-17973701

that is shitty reporting.

Did he say this during the GMA interview. The writing is so bad and unclear.

And TMZ hasn't been reliable since the beginning.

Yup I think this is the case. He wasn't actually brought in to identify the two men. The articles are so bad.

So if anybody got something wrong it seems it seems it could've been the CPD who possibly arrested the wrong people.

A lot can happen in 60 seconds. Have you personally seen the video? If so, do you have a link because I can’t seem to find it on google. Please don’t post unconfirmed reports about it though.

Case closed. We'll just never know the truth I guess. Glad we waited for the facts.

[benjipwns]

Bleach is the name of an Anime.

Anime is from Japan everywhere because it simply means "animation" and nothing more.

I report, you decide.

[thisismyusername]

Joking aside this controversy is the biggest spotlight DOA6 has gotten so far from the gaming community.
They just averted a massive bomba. 

Poor Markman and Tasty Steve, lmao.
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When Team Ninja took the stage at EVO Japan 2019 to showcase Dead or Alive 6, it's highly unlikely the EVO Japan staff knew the full extent what was about to happen.

Team Ninja was allotted some main stage time to showcase Dead or Alive 6 at EVO Japan 2019 this week. During this time they put on a gameplay presentation hosted by Japanese gravure idols Yuka Kuramochi and Saki Yoshida, as well as director and producer, Yohei Shimbori.

Instead of playing in a traditional manner, Shimbori manipulated characters into various sexual poses, paused the game and used the free roam camera to zoom in on characters' private parts while Kuramochi and Yoshida observed, commented and even spent some time jiggling their own breasts and spanking one another.

After a few minutes of this, the EVO Japan team decided to cut the live stream feed for the English broadcast and end the presentation early. Head organizer Joey "Mr. Wizard" Cuellar followed up with a since-deleted tweet stating that "the DOA ad that aired on our stream does not reflect the core values of EVO or the FGC. We ended the stream to protect the integrity of our brand."

EVO's Head of Business Development, Mark "MarkMan" Julio, further apologized on the live stream once it was booted back up, indicating a clear disconnect between what EVO organizers and Team Ninja were expecting during the latter's stage time. The looks on both his and commentator Steve "Tasty Steve" Scott's faces further indicated they were not prepared for the carnal display that had just taken place.

With lewdness being such a hot topic when it comes to the Dead or Alive franchise, it seems producers may be aiming more for shock and surprise as opposed to being straightforward with their intentions as we've been getting very mixed signals from the team for quite some time now.

While unequivocally regarded as a complete fighting game experience by fans, DOA development company, Team Ninja, has unapologetically used sexual visuals to the extent that they've become a significant part of the franchise's identity. While a simple viewing of most any DOA title is ample enough to drive this point home, skeptics needn't look any further than the Xtreme Beach Volleyball spinoff titles.

 

How to make sure DOA is never on the Evo mainstage. #ThanksTeamNinja

[benjipwns]

Can't wait for when ICE deports Jussie Smollett because he was actually born in the UK.

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/wait-did-pocahontas-both-sides-things.99947/post-17964307

User Banned (Duration Pending): Antagonistic and inflammatory posts across multiple threads. History of similar infractions.

Lmao @ going to see a G-rated Disney family movie and expecting some sort of exposition on white men slaughtering the natives. Whole lotta brains in your family.

[benjipwns]

User Banned (2 Weeks): Relishing in harmful objectification; Ignoring modpost

I hope after this KT will forget all about fgc/evo bullshit and just focus to their fanbase and rank up the sexiness to 11, just like MK did with violence

User Banned (2 weeks): Defending Sexism, history of similar actions

Really??? He mentioned how he met his girlfriend by saying he wanted to fuck her in the ass. Good faith? ...s-..sure?? ? ??



Quality commentary right there.

Well he asked in good faith he wanted to fuck her in the ass.

[benjipwns]

FGC has Afro-americans, Latinos, Cis/ Trans Women among the most notorious players. Do we have a diverse scene like that in, for example, OWL?

And to suport this diversity that the FGC should avoid that things like that happen again because it alienates a good portion of those players you mentioned. And SPECIALLY, it alienate new players who want to join the FGC (I am sure most women pro players already have an exoskeleton because of how much thick skin they managed over the years)

carnal displays happen, minorities hardest hit

[benjipwns]

Sometimes I wonder if some of you think porn is how to get a date....

Judging by the rise of the incel movement the amount of people who believe in something like that it's sadly too high.

It shouldn't have happened in the first place. Tecmo was treating the thing like it was its own special stream.

The fans/audience/players aren't worth catering to if this is the garbage that people want to see.

Some people keep moaning about esports watering down the "authentic" fgc when this kind of stuff happens, and all I see is that people can't be racist, misogynistic, assholes anymore.

Tecmo makes it really hard to keep liking this series.

The issue to me isn't the presence gravure idols, especially as to my knowledge they're known for more than that. That's whatever. Some of the rhetoric in here is nearing SWERF levels.

But! The whole purposeful ohoho let's slow down the camera to highlight bouncing breasts and make a piledriver look like Nyotengu is being eaten out shit? Ridiculous. Let's pretend we never ever said we'd tone down the objectification. Like. Fuck that.

I slowly started suspecting they lied for various reasons... But this confirmed it.

You can't have your cake and eat it too. Wanna be taken seriously? Wanna get esports buxx? Drop the over-objectification. Wanna be a titty booby fighter? Stop trying to push it as serious and courting EVO.

The FGC needs to be open to everyone, and a lot of people are uncomfortable with such blatant sexualization. No one should be uncomfortable from a lack of it.

I don't understand this sort of reasoning. Their consent is not the problem. The fact that they were even hired in the first place is the problem.

lol wut

Not sure what is difficult to understand. They shouldn't have been there. Period.

Is it wrong the only part that made me cringe was how desperate the women were to make sure you could see their cleavage at all times as best as possible?

I even find it offensive to men: we're not cavemen thank you, we don't need to have tits and asses every moment in front of us to enjoy something and keep our focus. The cunnilingus clip I could have done without in such a professional environment, not the best of jokes, but it's a sex act that I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with objectification and sexualization of women.

Also, it'd be cool if people stopped calling other people out on the basis of their avatars, as it shows you're willing to go down to very low personal attacks to prove a point, without succeeding I might say: people can enjoy real/fictional porn and sex without being asshats or having their opinions preemptively invalidated.

1) Get the hell out with your tone policing.
2) Did you even read what I was replying to? He was trying to do a feminist "I have black friends" by pointing out that if her girlfriend didn't want to wear something, he wouldn't force her to. Like, what the everliving fuck?
3) He was later banned for his troubles. Perhaps take that as a hint and choose a different hill to die on?

Fucking hell are some people transparent.

dis thread pretty good too

[Great Rumbler]

Benji, I think you read way more RE than could be considered healthy.

[benjipwns]

I cheat and use the strategy guide.

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Except for looking at Frank O'Connor's post history.

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[clothedmacuser]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/wait-did-pocahontas-both-sides-things.99947/post-17964307

User Banned (Duration Pending): Antagonistic and inflammatory posts across multiple threads. History of similar infractions.

Lmao @ going to see a G-rated Disney family movie and expecting some sort of exposition on white men slaughtering the natives. Whole lotta brains in your family.

   That was obviously slayven defending the honor of his comic books and pixar art.  The banning will probably be overturned by other mods.

Whelp, Catherine is going to get banned on Era.

Nah, it will get the James Gunn treatment.

[benjipwns]

I cheat and use the strategy guide.

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Except for looking at Frank O'Connor's post history.

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what are you twelve

[benjipwns]

Whelp, Catherine is going to get banned on Era.

thread has people talking about Bayonetta and saying that's okay because she's aware of being objectified and allows it

BUT SHE NOT REAL

[benjipwns]

I don't use the word hero lightly, but ASaiyan is an hero.

[benjipwns]

i can't believe they keep getting away with this

[Leadbelly]

I keep seeing comments about everyone having bleach at home. Surely the purpose of seizing bleach is to do a chemical analysis of the bleach? Maybe one brand is different than another.

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/major-spoilers-one-of-the-endings-in-catherine-full-body-gets-extremely-transphobic-moreso-than-that-original.100027/page-10

I know it may be uncomfortable for people to consider ERA banning discussion of this game, but think about how more uncomfortable this makes trans people. I honestly think a forum as big as ERA taking a stand and at least not having an OT for the game would bring this issue a lot of attention.

The entire point of ResetEra banning games from discussion is so that the games aren't being advertised by the discussion. It's not a boycott, but it serves the same purpose. It is a refusal to support a product.

Frankly I am willing to swallow the hard pill and expand the definition of what is "bannable". I've called for certain games/creators to be banned for far less than this (though I've never encountered something so bad as to want to make a formal mass petition until today). That's just me though.

People can still call it out and point out how awful it is. But we don't need an OT, any LTTP, RTTP threads, or people discussing the game in other threads.

[benjipwns]

I love Catherine but I can't support this shit, god damn. Literally one fucking job.

ONE JOB

[benjipwns]

OFFICIAL STAFF COMMUNICATION
We've received a request to have this game banned and added to the prohibited games list. The team has discussed this, and our conclusion is that banning the game would inadvertently serve to sweep this issue under the rug, when it should really be brought to light and exposed.

However, please keep in mind that the contents described here are so blatantly offensive that defense of them, or any dismissal of relevant criticism, will be met with bans.

A staff message has also been added to the OT with clearly outlined rules and expectations of behavior.

COWARDS

[benjipwns]

I am 100% in favor of not allowing an OT, but if we ban this game on this ground we have to ban Mario 2 because the manual says the same shit about Birdetta

[benjipwns]

This game is just poison, we pretty much have to either put in on the banlist ot allow it to be posted as is. There really isn't a middle ground. If someone wants to make a thread condemning the game, they should be allowed, But we don't need people discussing the games merits or putting it on a pedestal.

This shit is actually trigger, in the proper sense of that word, trans folk and they are not happy about it.

People aren’t saying to pretend bad things don’t exist.

It’s the opposite. They’re saying not to pretend they don’t have problems.

Kingdom Come should have been on that list, for example. If The Last Night ever comes out, it should be on that list. And so on.

I really truly believed that the main thing they would address in this game was to fix the transphobic elements of the game, erasing the huge black mark against the game

Yea, despite worries about mistranslation, this looks bad enough that it should need to prove itself to be un-banned, not the other way around.

[benjipwns]

Platy's post is making me feel more uncomfortable about dunkey's yearly problematic content

[benjipwns]

lmao at all the people quoting Morrigan and thanking her and the mods for saying "nah, we gonna allow dis game you dummies"

[clothedmacuser]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/major-spoilers-one-of-the-endings-in-catherine-full-body-gets-extremely-transphobic-moreso-than-that-original.100027/post-17974066

I'm really unsure whether to post this, as i don't want to derail.

For the people that wish to have this game banned from the forum.

Would you also be cool with banning H.P. Lovecaft's work, and anything related to him from this site ?

Workers rights for all, but not trans it seems.

[benjipwns]

I mean, the ban list rule is not some unchangeable rule written by some uncontactable god.

We could easily have a second list of games where defending/advertising is banned but criticism/critical discussion is not.

I don’t think we were trying to say “nobody should be allowed to talk about how transphobic this is”.

tfw your video game forum gotta start making multiple lists of what games are banned and how

[VomKriege]

new evidence is the involvement of corey booker and kamala harris!

Who killed Seth Rich ? #justice

[VomKriege]

Also shaking my head at CPD releasing probable homophobes by virtue of being Nigerians.

[VomKriege]

I wonder which gaming outlets will have actual values and call this out.

Then again Persona "94 Opencritic" 5 wasn't affected by that until well after release.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/major-spoilers-one-of-the-endings-in-catherine-full-body-gets-extremely-transphobic-moreso-than-that-original.100027/page-11#post-17974759

[venereology]

when you're so passionate about something that you refuse to talk about it

[benjipwns]

Can we at least not have threads advertising the game, such as OTs and trailer threads?

I feel like that's the best way to go about it, though I feel bad for the person who made the OT already.

I'm hoping the game at least mega bombs. Losing money is probably the only way they will learn.

Because I don't want to support him financially?
This isn't hard to grasp
I'll just wiki the game

[benjipwns]

That actually reminds me. While Hashino likely won't get any money from Joker being in Smash, having two characters tied to homophobic creators back-to-back may not be a good look for Nintendo if "Brave" is who we think it is (& is Fighters Pass Character #2).

THIS IS WHY WE'VE BEEN PROTESTING NINTENDO IN 2019

RIGHT? WHERE IS EVERYONE? HELLO?

[benjipwns]

Well if enough pressure is thrown at SEGA, they can remove Hashino at any time since they own Atlus now. So there is a small chance something can be done now that Atlus answers to someone

SEGA? The people who allowed Night Trap on their platform?!?

[VomKriege]

Jesus fucking christ I feel disgusted with myself for having ever believed in this game and Hashino (and perhaps Atlus by extension).

Ugh. Ugggh.

[benjipwns]

I just don't understand. Do the japanese not care about issues like these at all???

[benjipwns]

when you ban so many people in a single day your member count pauses and then even goes backwards:

[Jenkem]

[LurkinMerkin]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/jussie-smollett-breaks-his-silence-after-vicious-attack-im-ok.97099/page-18#post-17975247

I think there was a way to openly discuss fears and concerns, but those posting in bad faith in a manner that either directly or indirectly discredits the victim basically poisoned that well. Consider it another way in which the wrong people control the narrative by making bad faith discourse the default assumption.

Who made it seem like expressing incredulity at this stranger than fiction series of events was barely concealed racism, and made bad faith discourse the default assumption?

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/ChocoLacaTaco/status/1096608745830805505

 

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/marvelous-alters-senran-kagura-valentines-day-ps4-theme-with-light-rays-to-meet-sony-regulations-and-standards.99931/post-17956607

User Banned (1 Day): Inflammatory generalizations concerning pedophilia

Seriously, some of you always act in a way that makes me think that amir0x need some company in his cell.

Oof. Harsh but no lies detected. Some people have a hard time keeping their pedophilic tendencies in check.

what

[benjipwns]

nobody at ResetERA.com ever knew who they were, especially not former moderator kristoffer

[benjipwns]

I do recall one adult staff member having an underage girlfriend, won't share who though 

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Because I believe in love!

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i really am the core of the hate machine sometimes

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[benjipwns]

I hope this thread has generated a good long discussion and a shitload of introspection and consideration from the moderation team regarding the standards and quality of moderation on this forum.

Instead of just over-reacting and banning dissenting opinions, maybe there should have been an attempt to engage with people to try to understand why they thought the whole story was fishy (which it is now well beyond any reasonable doubt).

Instead, this whole thing was turned into a massive race/culture war where those with power abused it to shut out those they didn't agree with and then got egg all over their faces when all of the doubts people had initially were shown to be legitimate and not just borne out of "white privilege" or whatever buzzword insult was being thrown around.

I couldn't give three fucking shits about this guy and before this thread I didn't even know who he was. I certainly don't give a shit about whether he set this whole thing up or not and am only here because this episode is a perfect illustration of what is wrong with this place.

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Who am I kidding? Introspection? Yeah right! It's just easier to ban people and bury your heads in the sand.

You really should warn people to put on safety goggles before you you start grinding that axe.

There is another community I can think of with less stringent moderation policy that sounds more up your alley.

i think he means the bire

[benjipwns]

already banned

User Banned (Permanent): Continuous thread derailment with hostility towards staff. History of severe infractions.

[PogiJones]

Mental gymnastics require a lot of effort.

I'm gonna let you go ahead and explain that one cause I don't do subtweets

Banned with no ban message.

 

And surely not by the mod who passive-aggressively implied a threat to ban him, because mods that join the conversation recuse themselves from banning and reporting, right?

EDIT: Message just appeared. Half my post is ruined. 

[benjipwns]

sometimes they try to stick the ban message on an earlier post to hide it, but the dude only had four posts since november, three of them being those

[Jenkem]

sometimes they try to stick the ban message on an earlier post to hide it, but the dude only had four posts since november, three of them being those

this is what we call "not being slick"

[Anti-Monitor]

What the, is Era really the biggest gaming forum?

I guess it makes sense since gaming forums are dead and you don’t count Reddit. And I suppose there’s lots of people just talking on the community forums who don’t engage the absolute lunatics. But really, I don’t understand how there’s so many bitter, hateful, self righteous fuckers in there. I could understand a couple, but there’s a fucking legion of people just screaming and crying over e v e r y t h i n g

[PogiJones]

A funnel with a very wide mouth and a very narrow stem. Gaming is very broad, so it catches a lot normal people but also a lot of lunatics. RE purges sane people till there's a very high concentration of lunatics. Crazy extract, if you will. That's why their membership growth is pretty much non-existent.

[benjipwns]

the rage, the powerless unhinged rage
https://www.resetera.com/threads/major-spoilers-one-of-the-endings-in-catherine-full-body-gets-extremely-transphobic-moreso-than-that-original.100027/post-17976213

https://twitter.com/aurahack/status/1096671771913322496

This is heartbreaking. Ugh

How in the fuck could they possibly fuck up Erica's portrayal worse than the original? This isn't just ignorance, this is downright malicious.

Fuck this game. Fuck this studio. Fuck anyone who defends this.

How, *how* did the multiple people who made this game think this was a good idea.

It needs to be changed or I know I'm not buying the game and I hope a lot more people don't as well.

Thank you for the major spoiler in the title, so I had zero chances to avid it. Well done.

Well, that's really fricking disappointing and anger inducing frankly.

So how did the original Catherine make it unscathed considering its transphobia in the first place?

They chose to take the fucking wrong stance openly and put themselves up for criticism. No reddit, gamergate, anti-saw,etc fuck has a leg to stand on about how “Japan doesn’t care about politics” when this is just a straight slap to the face of an entire group of fans and their allies. An insult to trans people’s actual humanity. It seems like people like Hashino care a whole lot about the “SJW agenda” and made it loud and clear.

I never their transphobia bullshit went as far back as P2...
They're my favorite developer or were. I dunno anymore.
I feel so sad for the trans community

Atlas USA having no say in this doesn't mean that everyone working at Atlus USA aren't still super complicit in normalizing transphobia and hatred. Their job is literally to adapt a hateful work into English and market it the US. Anyone working there should absolutely be ashamed of themselves.