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[benjipwns]

This gives Trump a ton of ammo too. Thanks man.,

[Bore Expert]

I'm pretty sure the mods will ignore this event ever happened and anyone that mentions it will get banned in the future.

Gaf moderation 101

[Uncle]

For any resetera mods who might read this thread 

It's obvious that some of you are fucken miserable over there dealing with the monster partly of your own creation

The fact that marrec is not banned and has some measure of protection as a voice of reason is proof that you long for less shit woke points drama

This Jussie Smollett thing is probably the biggest event you will ever see as a catalyst to make some sort of announcement for being slightly humbled and willing to reconsider official stances on the types of viewpoints that will be allowed

Moderation's chance to say hey, maybe we will step back and allow some discussions to be hashed out, not all skeptical takes are disingenuous

I dunno just me, you do you

[Raist]

you Should probably wait to see what the police are going to present before you I-told-you-so.

Deepwater had a change of heart it seems.

[benjipwns]

ABC and CBS Chicago are both credible news sources. CNN is no more or less credible. The news reports are still citing anonymous sources and the Chicago PD denial of the hoax still stands.

Nothing has changed

I also wouldn’t be totally surprised if CNN fucked something either. Gotta be careful these days. The investigation is still not final.

I mean, what evidence do we have that it's faked? It seems like the police thought it was genuine until they interviewed the suspects. Is it just their word? There's still so much we don't know.

I'm very intrested to see the police report now. This being confirmed by multiple outlets seems indicates there are sources leaking the story, but I am wondering about their veracity one way or another.

This whole thing is strange, and I really hope CNN and the other sources are very confident in their reporting. Shit like this is not something you want to play hard and loose on the facts with.

[BisMarckie]

you should probably wait to see what the police are going to present before you I-told-you-so.

t’s crazy how everybody takes the police’s word at source of truth

[VomKriege]

For any resetera mods who might read this thread 

It's obvious that some of you are fucken miserable over there dealing with the monster partly of your own creation

The fact that marrec is not banned and has some measure of protection as a voice of reason is proof that you long for less shit woke points drama

This Jussie Smollett thing is probably the biggest event you will ever see as a catalyst to make some sort of announcement for being slightly humbled and willing to reconsider official stances on the types of viewpoints that will be allowed

Moderation's chance to say hey, maybe we will step back and allow some discussions to be hashed out, not all skeptical takes are disingenuous

I dunno just me, you do you

For the record, in the original thread we did ask people not to speculate without evidence that the attack was staged; this was necessary because members were becoming hostile to each other and the discussion was getting out of hand. We explicitly mentioned the possibility that new information could emerge to change this, and that has now happened.

Please proceed with the discussion and do not derail the thread with moderation commentary. If you have further questions feel free to contact any of the mod captains (b-dubs, hecht, or mist).

[Propagandhim]

ABC and CBS Chicago are both credible news sources. CNN is no more or less credible. The news reports are still citing anonymous sources and the Chicago PD denial of the hoax still stands.

Nothing has changed

I also wouldn’t be totally surprised if CNN fucked something either. Gotta be careful these days. The investigation is still not final.

I mean, what evidence do we have that it's faked? It seems like the police thought it was genuine until they interviewed the suspects. Is it just their word? There's still so much we don't know.

The only real, tangible evidence we have is that there's a madman racist drawing stick figures on hatemail

[benjipwns]

Does anybody care about the ramifications of Jussie potentially lying about a hate crime or do we just wanna dunk on the moderators for correctly banning a group of trolls?

[nudemacusers]

For any resetera mods who might read this thread 

It's obvious that some of you are fucken miserable over there dealing with the monster partly of your own creation

The fact that marrec is not banned and has some measure of protection as a voice of reason is proof that you long for less shit woke points drama

This Jussie Smollett thing is probably the biggest event you will ever see as a catalyst to make some sort of announcement for being slightly humbled and willing to reconsider official stances on the types of viewpoints that will be allowed

Moderation's chance to say hey, maybe we will step back and allow some discussions to be hashed out, not all skeptical takes are disingenuous

I dunno just me, you do you

Looks like someone didn’t send a pm and chose to antagonize moderation staff. History of severe infractions, etc.

[VomKriege]

Does anybody care about the ramifications of Jussie potentially lying about a hate crime or do we just wanna dunk on the moderators for correctly banning a group of trolls?

[ZombieSupaStar]

Mods are twisting like Neo in The Matrix to avoid holding that L.

[Propagandhim]

For the record, in the original thread we did ask people not to speculate without evidence that the attack was staged; this was necessary because members were becoming hostile to each other and the discussion was getting out of hand.

"I don't know, the "This is MAGA country" in the heart of Chicago seems a little weird and too on the nose" 

You're getting out of hand, here!

[HaughtyFrank]

Does anybody care about the ramifications of Jussie potentially lying about a hate crime or do we just wanna dunk on the moderators for correctly banning a group of trolls?

7318

[Averon]

It's been like that since after a few months after this site went live. Moderators will go into a thread, make a post that's a borderline threat to anyone who thinks differently of them and the then the thread just becomes people agreeing with each other. Then they say something like "Stop talking about this. Send us a PM so we can ignore it better" and the discussion dies off just how they like it.

 

[VomKriege]

Normal internet : You're a troll, therefore we're banning you.
Rera : You're banned, therefore you have to be a troll.

 

[benjipwns]

OFFICIAL STAFF COMMUNICATION
For the record, in the original thread we did ask people not to speculate without evidence that the attack was staged; this was necessary because members were becoming hostile to each other and the discussion was getting out of hand. We explicitly mentioned the possibility that new information could emerge to change this, and that has now happened.

Please proceed with the discussion and do not derail the thread with moderation commentary. If you have further questions feel free to contact any of the mod captains (b-dubs, hecht, or mist).

This isn't true. There were two OFFICIAL STAFF COMMUNICATIONS.

Royalans here on February 1st: https://www.resetera.com/threads/jussie-smollett-breaks-his-silence-after-vicious-attack-im-ok.97099/post-17489959

OFFICIAL STAFF COMMUNICATION
In this case there seems to be no legitimate reason to doubt Smollett's account of what happened. As such, any discussion of him faking the attack will be treated as victim blaming and actioned as such.

This remained the controlling OFFICIAL STAFF COMMUNICATION until two weeks later, yesterday as the story began to fall apart completely, B-Dubs here: https://www.resetera.com/threads/jussie-smollett-breaks-his-silence-after-vicious-attack-im-ok.97099/post-17939092

OFFICIAL STAFF COMMUNICATION
Everyone calm down, any further hostility will be met with appropriate action. As of right now, there remains no reason to doubt that Smollett was attacked and according to the police he is not under investigation in any way. Like Royalan said earlier, as new facts become known, feel free to discuss them. Unless legitimate information comes out to the contrary, any talk of him faking the attack will be treated as victim blaming and actioned as such.

Mod Captain B-Dubs is trying to gaslight us.

[Propagandhim]

When people have an issue with the rules or moderation decisions they are asked to send it via PM.

Reporting for duty!

[HaughtyFrank]

When people have an issue with the rules or moderation decisions they are asked to send it via PM.

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Reporting for duty!

He wants to be a mod so bad. That he still isn't despite RE having tons of mods gives me hope that at least some of them correctly identify him as dipshit

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

For any resetera mods who might read this thread 

It's obvious that some of you are fucken miserable over there dealing with the monster partly of your own creation

The fact that marrec is not banned and has some measure of protection as a voice of reason is proof that you long for less shit woke points drama

This Jussie Smollett thing is probably the biggest event you will ever see as a catalyst to make some sort of announcement for being slightly humbled and willing to reconsider official stances on the types of viewpoints that will be allowed

Moderation's chance to say hey, maybe we will step back and allow some discussions to be hashed out, not all skeptical takes are disingenuous

I dunno just me, you do you

hey era mods:
people aren't clowning you for acting like dipshits because they're trolls.
they're clowning you because you acted like dipshits.

[BisMarckie]

But also because we're trolls. 

[nudemacusers]

When people have an issue with the rules or moderation decisions they are asked to send it via PM.

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Reporting for duty!

He wants to be a mod so bad. That he still isn't despite RE having tons of mods gives me hope that at least some of them correctly identify him as dipshit

You don’t give neighborhood watch a badge

[benjipwns]

in the wake of the TMZ/CNN hoax against Jussie Smollett mods now shifting to the alt-right to collect that big conservative money: https://www.resetera.com/threads/prosecutors-recommend-manafort-be-sentenced-to-19-24-years-in-prison-in-the-eastern-district-of-virginia.100002/post-17973200

User Banned (1 Day): Inappropriate Joke

Tune in for the future episode of "How fucked am I," written and directed by Robert Mueller and based on the true story of a guy that has had a silver spoon up his ass his entire life.

Nice talent for prison life though.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

time for an era jusstise project

[paprikastaude]

so it seems like the "extreme transphobia" of Catherina was, shockingly, reee hyperbole and lies? but they still refuse to acknowledge or communicate anything other than the pure reee-normative narration.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/major-spoilers-one-of-the-endings-in-catherine-full-body-gets-extremely-transphobic-moreso-than-that-original.100027/page-26#post-17993634

There's no reasonable evidence for that claim in the actual ending.

HylianSeven can update the OP anytime, but is choosing not to.

How about "She wanted to date Vincent under different circumstances and this involved changing everyone's lives for the 'better', including Erica never transitioning."

It's still transphobic.

I won't lie though - after all that shit that was unleashed I wouldn't back out of my narrative either and try every last spin.

[NegativeCrepe]

When people have an issue with the rules or moderation decisions they are asked to send it via PM.

(Image removed from quote.)

Reporting for duty!

He wants to be a mod so bad. That he still isn't despite RE having tons of mods gives me hope that at least some of them correctly identify him as dipshit

everyone hates him and hes too stupid to understand it same with most woke accounts

[BisMarckie]

Were does the big conservative money meme come from btw?

[NegativeCrepe]

OFFICIAL STAFF COMMUNICATION
For the record, in the original thread we did ask people not to speculate without evidence that the attack was staged; this was necessary because members were becoming hostile to each other and the discussion was getting out of hand. We explicitly mentioned the possibility that new information could emerge to change this, and that has now happened.

Please proceed with the discussion and do not derail the thread with moderation commentary. If you have further questions feel free to contact any of the mod captains (b-dubs, hecht, or mist).

This isn't true. There were two OFFICIAL STAFF COMMUNICATIONS.

Royalans here on February 1st: https://www.resetera.com/threads/jussie-smollett-breaks-his-silence-after-vicious-attack-im-ok.97099/post-17489959

OFFICIAL STAFF COMMUNICATION
In this case there seems to be no legitimate reason to doubt Smollett's account of what happened. As such, any discussion of him faking the attack will be treated as victim blaming and actioned as such.

This remained the controlling OFFICIAL STAFF COMMUNICATION until two weeks later, yesterday as the story began to fall apart completely, B-Dubs here: https://www.resetera.com/threads/jussie-smollett-breaks-his-silence-after-vicious-attack-im-ok.97099/post-17939092

OFFICIAL STAFF COMMUNICATION
Everyone calm down, any further hostility will be met with appropriate action. As of right now, there remains no reason to doubt that Smollett was attacked and according to the police he is not under investigation in any way. Like Royalan said earlier, as new facts become known, feel free to discuss them. Unless legitimate information comes out to the contrary, any talk of him faking the attack will be treated as victim blaming and actioned as such.

Mod Captain B-Dubs is trying to gaslight us.

they dont care they lie about fucking everything

[benjipwns]

NeoGAF.com/ResetERA.com had this theory for ages that nobody actually believes in their conservative/pro-Trump/etc. views, they all just do it for the BIG CONSERVATIVE MONEY. Then they started to accuse some of their fellow members of being plants and it just naturally went together.

[BikeJesus]

It's fitting that he faked this during Black History Month.

Because he's black.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

And now he's history
 

[close]

[VomKriege]

Sit down and listen except when some of your own users always seize those opportunities to voice that they indeed feel inhibited to join discussions out of the fear of eating a ban for diverging too much from sanctioned narratives.

[benjipwns]

In celebration of there not actually being a horrific hate crime, let's have the metaphorical hate crime that is benji posting the latest Frank O'Connor Unabridged!

WARNING, PERSONAL RANT ABOUT SEMANTICS AND LAW:

Personally, I'm OK with individual right to own guns and ammo. It's essential in some parts of the country for agriculture, it's fun to shoot clays, targets etc. Recreational hunting is actually necessary to cull MASSIVE overpopulation of deer in some places. But states should also be allowed to enforce common sense laws as they can with anything else dangerous - driver licenses and insurance, for example. State citizens should vote at the ballot for how they want to deal with it democratically, from no guns, to hella guns, or vote with their wallets and their feet and go to the stae they prefer. That's how our federation is designed.

Every time one of these things happens we try to pin it on one thing. And that's a rational thing to do - we're looking for cures as well as clues.

In America the conversation is stifled from the outset however because we're inured to a lot of bizarre things that we take for granted. We're the richest and most powerful nation on Earth, but of all the countries we ourselves would compare to, we're the only one that treats healthcare and education as optional privileges for those who can afford it, but trivial ill-described access to guns as a human right enshrined in our Nation's constitution.

The seeds of all this are deeply planted in our founding documents and dishonest actors treat them a lot like scripture - flexible statements designed to be interpreted by people who chose themselves as leaders - more like Ijma (consensus on the meaning of scripture) than Hadiths or Sura, or even the scriptures themselves. It's not a coincidence that the most "important" parts of the US constitution are amendments. Added after the fact and poorly defined too. The First, Second and Fifth amendments are not followed by definitions or detail. They are broad sweeping generalizations that require centuries of jurisprudence to properly define their limits - and one of those, the Second Amendment, indeed the most badly phrased regardless of which side you're on, has been wholly defined by the industry it mentions, not the people it's designed to empower.

The second amendment was drafted as a specific right for states to form their own militia in the event of tyranny or usurpation of federal governance. It does not begin, "The right to bear arms" and to be honest, Alexander Hamilton was more detailed and brazen with a single comma that the wording of the Second, which should rightly be further amended for clarity - Madison intended it specifically as an olive branch to anti-federalists worried that their militias could be disarmed and their state independence threatened at a federal level. The phrase "well regulated militia" is clear enough - if you have an undisciplined rabble running around hanging or shooting people they disagree with, the federal government can simply point to that phrasing and say "get your shit in order" - the right to bear arms was already well ensconced in some specific states and it's clear from reading both the language and the history, that gun rights were assumed to be a state matter. However, those rights are currently enforced upon dissenting states and voting populations using federal law - the exact tyrrany the law was written to defend against. It's a shocking corruption of the intent.

It's also impossible to argue that the constitution forbids gun ownership - there's no such language. All it contains is a rhetorical tool to demand that a militia be disciplined and formalized and pemitted to be armed - the law as written very plainly seems to leave the details up to states. If California for example, banned personal weapon ownership EXCEPT for members of a well regulated militia, it would seem to be entirely constitutional. If you didn't like that, you could up and move to Nevada.

A "well regulated militia" would likely and logically require members to keep their arms at home - in case of the Red Dawn/The Patriot scenario a lot of people are excited about, if they were stored at a State armory for example, you couldn't easily activate your militia - but let's say the regulations mandated a clean , well maintained m16 and a rocket launcher - that scenario is logically covered by the language.

Let's say that same state said, "Also, private individuals can have ten pistols, one long gun and unlimited ammo but not rocket launchers." That's also assumed in the original drafting. It's also arguable indeed apparent to me at least, that a well regulated militia is actually mandated by the law. States may not in fact have the right to skip having one. It says it's essential long before it says anything about guns. Indeed it doesn't mention guns at all in a way that's actually useful to the concept. A semi automatic rifle isn't going to win against tanks and jets, so personal arms that CAN fight against tanks and jets might also be rationally necessary today. There's a better linguistic argument in the second for CA to have anti tank missiles than there is for Mike to have a rifle.

My point isn't that any of the above is definitely true - my point is that the law as written is incredibly murky, and the one thing it definitely doesn't say or grant, is the only thing it's ever used to defend.

Personal opinion is that states should write their own laws on guns, that are wholly separate from federal law, but that the second ammendment needs to be fixed as written. If everyone agrees to change it to "We don't need a militia anymore, but we do want bump stocks and fully automatic machine guns at the state level" then so be it. And figure out some details about what "well regulated militia" means while you're at it.

A lot of forces don't actually want the law to be clarified or amended, not because it's perfect, or even because they like it, but because if cracked open again for a constitutional amendment with 21st century law, it might potentially negatively affect their chosen interpretation of it.

The federal law and constitution are perfectly capable of and indeed designed to, hand these matters back to the state. It won't solve nationwide gun violence but it could at least give states their own choices in the matter. It might lead to things like gun safes, better tracking of mentally ill gun buyers and it might help states avoid shit like this tragedy. And yeah, it's not just guns. It's a whole passle of American blind spots with guns available regardless of lines of sight.

I'm fine with it. I always check to make sure my daughter isn't acccidentally taking peanuts to school. I had a very serious reaction to (canned) shellfish once and I wouldn't wish that on ANYONE. And that was mild relative to some peanut allergies.

The angry irrational old person in me say, "wah we're raising weaklings! Man up!"

The scientist in me says, "Actually, we should probably look into that angry old man business, is it possible that like some forms of lactose intolerance, some exposure is helpful and increases tolerance which is a useful trait"

But the dad/regular person in me jumps to the end of an imaginary baseball match, where a two year old girl named Thea, cute asd a fucking BUTTON, lively and bright, the light of her parents' life and made everyone she saw smile, died of asphyxia because she ate a peanut off a bench, or was exposed to a whoosh of peanut dust from a box caught in a gust. And then that side of me asks, "Hey if you could have saved little Thea by banning peanut sales in the ball park, would you go back in time and press that ban button even though she's not your kid?"


I mean, who wouldn't? And theatrics and purple prose aside, that's not necessarily a ridiculous scenario. And the cost benefit analysis has to ask, "Who was harmed by the lack of Crackerjacks, and what was that degree of harm?" I'm gonna say nobody and nothing. Volume of whining aside. Maybe there is a general question to ask about the cost and difficulty of making the world safe versus keeping an individual safe. The "bubble" problem somebody suggested above in a way. We've had parents and people at our schools and offices over the years,.campaigning for some really pretty unworkable safety solutions for one child or individual. I can't blame them, but eventually the responsibility for that might have to rest at their door.

Back to the scientist part though - there's a really serious impact on the world from our regular exploitation and alteration of our environment - some of which comes from protecting our offspring from previously common harms. If we're going to become more and more succeptible to disease and naturally occuring toxins and allergies, then we should really weigh the overall impacts - like, not peanuts obviously, but are there any behaviors being enabled by our bodies' ability to bypass natural selection with technology, science and medicine, that we should reconfiugure to do minimal harm to the overall ecosystem. We're very close to being able to breed the danger of malaria out of mosquitoes by culling their abnility to breed and feed (females and males) and I've seen good arguments that say, "Mosquiitoes could actually be eliminated ENTIRELY from the food chain without significant harm to the ecosystem" - which assuming it was scientifically sound, would make the question entirely ethical. Do we have the "right" to vanish an entire species, just because it's inconvenient for our overpopulated species to be in contact with them?

So as happy as I am to ban peanuts and crackerjacks from ball parks, maybe the more rational path (i mean at 10000 feet, not the ballpark problem) is to fix the allergies and toxins in tandem so that we don't have to make numerically assymetrical choices in commerce and proximity and so on in the future. We might actually reach a technological singularity in the next few decades - CRISPR and so on, that allows us to tackle it at both ends - make people more resilient/immune and make the foodstuffs/insects less harmful, in ways that make numerical sense.

And a really tertiary point - we're getting bad data on peanut allergies and other food problems - like gluten intolerance, because people are self-diagnosing the shit AS ADULTS. We all probably know people who have a serious medically sound intolerance to a food or subrstance, but we also probably all know someone who has decided that they are without actually being tested. And that's encouraging dishonest commerce to thrive and creating weird little feedback loops. Probably harmless but really bad for data, which in turn is bad for the science and really ultimately bad for those who are genuinely impacted. See also comfort animals on planes.

Point being, at some juncture, we're going to have to narrow down what we fix and how, so that it's all proportional and doing the least possible harm to the health of those affected, but also economy and the world. And honestly people should be able to enjoy peanuts if it's safe and feasible to enable that. But not at the expense of Thea, no matter how slightly annoyed you are about it.

So. Here's my saturday paranoia. But not really paranoia, because it's not irrational. The bigquestion is why emerge from retirement to go through the absolute wringer for Donald Trump, of all people?


So Occam's Razor offers me either:

1. He pitched for this job publicly and brazenly because he decided enough is enough and he wanted to protect the US and its counterintelligence infrastructure and felt that sliding into the AG role would allow him to suddenly be patriotic.

2. He's a piece of shit who can try to kill the investigation directly and nakedly because he DGAF and may directly benefit personally or even financially after the dust has settled, in the traditional Senate fashion.

2b. He's protecting or boosting his daughter inside the Whitehouse.

Barr's DAUGHTER works for the Trump administration as the point person for the opioid crisis. There's no reason to believe she has comitted perjury or crimes factually, legally or ethically, but the number of Trump inner circle appointees unaffected by his legal splash damage is slim. Barr has a potentially direct conflict of interest.

William Barr knows he's taking the shittiest spotlight job ever and it's probably a maximum of a couple of years. If that. Barr already pardoned five Iran Contra traitors in the middle of the night after H.W. lost. And remember, Reagan likely made a deal with Iran to KEEP hostages for a bit longer to win the election in the first place. Barr doesn't give one fucking shit what the press thinks of him and has proven that time and time again. Bar publicly auditioned for this job with a slobbering legally incoherent appeal to Trump's fear of prosecution.

Barr has already had this position on his resume - he isn't doing this to pad his professional legacy - and he sure isn't trying to stay out of the fray and reduce . Barr has never shown the slightest inclination of "boyscout" patriotism. He's a Cheney Patriot. He and folks like him don't even have to live in America, he can live in GOP Private Yacht, Golf and Cigar club America completely insulated from shame or scrutiny. Barr would in fact be feted and celebrated there by either crazy right wing bastards, or tax-dodging pragmatist opportunists, or both. Barr reduced the FBIs counterintelligence operation by 300 agents so he could lock up more black people. Barr's number one career and personal focus over his government career is more jails with more black people to fill them. Barr, I assume, has lots of private prison friends and allies.

His private professional career used prior government roles to influence and argue against telecom legislation to enable mergers and avoid monopoly concerns.

Barr wanted to increase the range and types of crimes that could be punished with the death penalty - Barr has championed pro religion and anti gay legislation. Barr is a "devout" catholic but shows not one glimmer of christian charity or love.

The ONLY glimmers of optimism I have about Barr is the same extant flicker - that it's all so much worse and inevitable and toxic and radioactive when you see the receipts that he just can't dare touch it -- and the mild suspicion I've had about the lack of Democratic pushback on Barr, that behind the scenes he's been frank with the Senate that he's guaranteeing a hands off approach and that his position on Trump has evolved as he watched it all burn down.

But I thought the GOP would finally have turned on Trump a long time ago and they've stuck to the line. The fact that Mitch McConnell walked out in support of Donald Trump's emergency declaration yesterday shocked me to my core, because it was a visible signal that was completely unnecessary. Mitch isn't just choosing party over Trump, he's directly HELPING and protecting Trump - rather than looking for the inevitable reset or leadership change. Mitch is directly involved and I'm not sure how. Possibly the NRA thing, which might be another Barr consideration.

Those women disgust me on so many levels. Ignorant ass sellouts.

The good thing about them is that they are the best black people Trump could get. Same level of quality as his white people. And that means Kanye is even lower on that totem pole. AND the Trump audience thinks all three of those people are the "good ones" - which actually just means they think of them as helpful traitors and useful idiots. In fact, Diamond and Silk's excruciatingly lowbrow offering, even their hair, style and rhetorical affectations - help a lot of the base feel superior in the Lyndon B. Johnson "bottom of it" sense.


I've seen a lot of people defend the audacity of their hustle, that it's an act, and good for them screwing ignorant Trump voters out of hard earned cash - but that's the defense for Anne Coulter too - it's an act for money. I'm not sure that endangering the nation, people's very lives and betraying your entire culture and background for dollars is any kind of defense of anything. In fact I'd say it's morally and ethically far worse and more poisonous and evil than doing it because you genuinely believe in it, or are ignorant of your error.

I'm confused by the Pence clip. I thought that he was aware that he and Trump are out to destroy American alliances with the European powers; he seemed taken aback that he didn't get any applause for being a dipshit re: Iran policy.

I think Pence was expecting applause on the "the Iranian people will welcome us with flowers and peace" which seemed like a really strained way to fudge the underlying malfunction of the policy - and that phrasing probably got Bolton and Miller all frothy with exasperation because they just wanted to say tough guy shit. So I can literally envisage Pence or a "dove" winning that rhetorical battle on the script - and overthinking how reasonable it was going to sound because the only prior audience were all warmongering nazis. They probably thought that stupid posy flourish changed the tone of the whole approach.

[agrajag]

NeoGAF.com/ResetERA.com had this theory for ages that nobody actually believes in their conservative/pro-Trump/etc. views, they all just do it for the BIG CONSERVATIVE MONEY. Then they started to accuse some of their fellow members of being plants and it just naturally went together.

unless it's Dave Rubin, or Candace Owens, or Daddy P who confirm the conservative money theory 

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Were does the big conservative money meme come from btw?

which one

[nudemacusers]

Tbh I’d pay them to beat me up and call me names

[BadAss2961]

Victim blaming is supposed to be when you blame the victim for what factually happened to them.

ERA's idea of victim blaming is anything involving not automatically siding with an accuser's story 100%.

"Believe the victim" no matter what is such a stupid fucking concept. Reasonable people apply logic to each case and go from there.

[agrajag]

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Tbh I’d pay them to beat me up and call me names

for $20 extra they throw their "bleach" on your face

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Tbh I’d pay them to beat me up and call me names

The guy had a hankering for a meaty foot long at 2 am, so he paid a couple of dudes to double team him and push rope while he beat them off before they poured their liquid on him, while his manager listened in on the action.

Whats the big deal?
 

[Propagandhim]

Victim blaming is supposed to be when you blame the victim for what factually happened to them.

ERA's idea of victim blaming is anything involving not automatically siding with an accuser's story 100%.

"Believe the victim" no matter what is such a stupid fucking concept. Reasonable people apply logic to each case and go from there.

You make a good point, but uh...hey man, I'd love to take your post at face value here but..uh...


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[VomKriege]

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Tbh I’d pay them to beat me up and call me names

Careful, we've learnt from JordanN some Resetter that they were most probably homophobic because they're Africans.

[tummyfat]

https://twitter.com/charliedemar/status/1096942749297926144

They were posting videos of themselves giving random Nigerian kids money on Instagram

Clearly he hired professionals

[Cauliflower Of Love]

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Tbh I’d pay them to beat me up and call me names

I've really really missed you.

[benjipwns]

a secret favorite part of being the Senior Freelance Reporter on the Frank O'Connor beat is seeing how often his posts are just completely ignored

[Cauliflower Of Love]

4 grand?

What a fucking cheapskate.

What the fuck was his end goal?

[benjipwns]

he should have demanded half of that back after it wasn't caught on camera ffs

although i'm not discounting that may have been the point because Jussie is pretty fucking stupid

[BisMarckie]

he should have demanded half of that back after it wasn't caught on camera ffs

What kind of agency sends you these guys when you order a racist lynch mob. 

They are the real culprits here.

[team filler]

 

[agrajag]

when hiring Milli Vanilli to hogtie you and drench you with bleach goes wrong

[HaughtyFrank]

Jussie probably thought that with the current climate in America that people would just believe him. Where he's wrong is police don't give black men the benefit of the doubt and will find ways to bury him. Like, did he think the entire country would unite? Naw. His big mistake was not realizing the actual climate of America.

 

[benjipwns]

it'd be great if they picked the spot and everything as part of scamming him

[tummyfat]

Subpar Spatula HAS to be a troll

[agrajag]

he should have demanded half of that back after it wasn't caught on camera ffs

What kind of agency sends you these guys when you order a racist lynch mob. 

They are the real culprits here.

Not their fault man, affirmative action really did a number on the lynching business.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

I kind of get the feeling that for all the talk about hate crimes being super commonplace that happen all the time, and all the cops being super lazy, corrupt, incompetent and racist and never solve shit might not be 100% accurate given how this turned out.

[benjipwns]

he should have demanded half of that back after it wasn't caught on camera ffs

What kind of agency sends you these guys when you order a racist lynch mob. 

They are the real culprits here.

He obviously didn't want to shell out the bucks necessary to get Liam Neeson and have it done right.

Little did he know that it's a passion project for Liam, not about the money.

[tummyfat]

4 grand?

What a fucking cheapskate.

What the fuck was his end goal?

4 grand is absurdly over market rate. You could pay dudes to kill people for a lot less.

[VomKriege]

Jussie probably thought that with the current climate in America that people would just believe him. Where he's wrong is police don't give black men the benefit of the doubt and will find ways to bury him.

...especially if you make a poor job of it, as it seems more and more it was.

Like, did he think the entire country would unite? Naw. His big mistake was not realizing the actual climate of America.

Yes, that's the big mistake he made.

[agrajag]

Jussie probably thought that with the current climate in America that people would just believe him. Where he's wrong is police don't give black men the benefit of the doubt and will find ways to bury him. Like, did he think the entire country would unite? Naw. His big mistake was not realizing the actual climate of America.

 

So his take was that Jussie was a real life Ozymandias from Watchmen and his crazy plot was to unite the country in a time of racial tension and division? Nice one.

[Averon]

Or just let people talk things out without accusing someone of something because they decide to widen the definition of something.

That's not a bannable offense and doesn't matter because rando reset members aren't issuing bans.

You'll have to prove that the mods are actually using that sort of expanded definition logic.

 

[BisMarckie]

Post links you cowards.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

so dude snorted some random shit and didn't know what happened.

GG era