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curly · « **Reply #5280 on:** August 04, 2020, 04:59:50 PM »

Shosta you should have stopped right after saying the idea was prima facie ridiculous anything after was playing into Mandark's trap

Mandark · « **Reply #5281 on:** August 04, 2020, 05:04:42 PM »

you said we shouldn't let so many people in the country so I think you think that we shouldn't let so many people in the country

team filler · « **Reply #5282 on:** August 04, 2020, 05:05:25 PM »

curly · « **Reply #5283 on:** August 04, 2020, 05:08:05 PM »

Quote from: Esch on August 04, 2020, 04:56:21 PM

Quote from: curly on August 04, 2020, 04:27:53 PM
All to enhance American power in the struggle with China, don't forget about that

Hmmm..... So you're telling me that some guy who lives off a combination of landlording and fake page hits is worried about an economic conflict with a country who manages to keep some of the value in the production chain inside their borders, despite the majority of the surplus being realized inside the United States?

Trump voting small businessmen extract surplus value like this, dipshit bloggers extract surplus value like this

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #5284 on:** August 04, 2020, 05:16:09 PM »

Quote from: curly on August 04, 2020, 02:53:09 PM

https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1290643916828680192

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #5285 on:** August 04, 2020, 05:21:26 PM »

Quote from: shosta on August 04, 2020, 02:48:38 PM

Holy fuckin shit

https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1290641124844085249

Mattyg is worried about America being at a disadvantage to China because it only has a third the population so he wrote a whole book on his solution: change the immigration system in America so that America would also have one billion people

Think Canada is trying to double or triple our pop by the end of the centery, a lot of which will be through immigration.

Mandark · « **Reply #5286 on:** August 04, 2020, 05:23:47 PM »

Quote from: shosta on August 04, 2020, 05:16:23 PM

We should let a lot of people into this country! In fact, vastly more than we do already.

you wrote that increasing immigration would necessitate increasing the exploited population of the global south and that it would engender a reactionary backlash from white Americans

do those facts only become true and/or salient at a certain numerical threshold?

Kara · « **Reply #5287 on:** August 04, 2020, 05:25:47 PM »

Quote from: Madrun Badrun on August 04, 2020, 05:21:26 PM

Think Canada is trying to double or triple our pop by the end of the centery, a lot of which will be through immigration.

It might stop looking like 3 extractive industries standing on top of each other under a Ukrainian SS trenchcoat so as to resemble a person then. Godspeed, Klanada.

Oblivion · « **Reply #5288 on:** August 04, 2020, 05:28:38 PM »

https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/1290715178775060480

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #5289 on:** August 04, 2020, 05:30:54 PM »

can't wait for the yet untouched regions of mexico to be leveled for the formation of the beef plantation superstate to feed all these new americans and read about all the mexicans uplifted out of poverty as a result

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #5290 on:** August 04, 2020, 05:30:59 PM »

Quote from: Kara on August 04, 2020, 05:25:47 PM

Quote from: Madrun Badrun on August 04, 2020, 05:21:26 PM
Think Canada is trying to double or triple our pop by the end of the centery, a lot of which will be through immigration.

It might stop looking like 3 extractive industries standing on top of each other under a Ukrainian SS trenchcoat so as to resemble a person then. Godspeed, Klanada.

Or it will just look like a taller person in a trench coat.

VomKriege · « **Reply #5291 on:** August 04, 2020, 05:34:18 PM »

Quote from: shosta

A LIMITED WORLD CANNOT SUPPORT UNLIMITED IMMIGRATION

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Yeah it's an absurd idea, on that scale.

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Kara · « **Reply #5292 on:** August 04, 2020, 05:44:59 PM »

Is there a per capita parallel? I was thinking that perhaps a calamity in human history produced something comparable in that sense.

Mandark · « **Reply #5293 on:** August 04, 2020, 05:48:13 PM »

depends if you want to limit it to nations

los angeles tripled in population in a decade around the turn of the century

Kara · « **Reply #5294 on:** August 04, 2020, 05:51:48 PM »

Imagine how many Dropkick Murphys the Yglesias Plan will spawn.

Was thinking something along the lines of X percent of global population migrating to a space within a discrete period of time.

VomKriege · « **Reply #5295 on:** August 04, 2020, 05:51:50 PM »

Quote from: Kara on August 04, 2020, 05:44:59 PM

Is there a per capita parallel? I was thinking that perhaps a calamity in human history produced something comparable in that sense.

Do you mean vast migration ? I guess it's possible there's something historically relevant but I doubt it was achieved with everything under control and no friction (which is apparently what the book speculates on).

Lebanon has 1,7m refugees for a 6m population, that's the first example I think of right now.

Edit : Mandark makes a good point.

VomKriege · « **Reply #5296 on:** August 04, 2020, 05:55:10 PM »

Some of the sugar islands of the Antilles also had population balloon with slaves, I guess.

Edit : Saint-Domingue / Haïti, of course, comes to mind. I didn't find a pre-slave trade population account but considering the population (500k~) is estimated to have been 90%~ slaves in 1790 and that French governors started shifting the colony to mass agriculture a century prior...

Kara · « **Reply #5297 on:** August 04, 2020, 06:12:22 PM »

Los Angeles, Lebanon, and Saint-Domingue... all places where things worked out well.

e: None of these are really what I was asking about, though VK is right that there is no parallel in terms of management.

Mandark · « **Reply #5298 on:** August 04, 2020, 06:16:57 PM »

Quote from: shosta on August 04, 2020, 06:11:28 PM

Native reaction to immigration isn't a central pillar of my argument anyway. Willingly to discard it

now we're talking

EchoRin · « **Reply #5299 on:** August 04, 2020, 08:43:46 PM »

I may be no Occam, but I'm all good with like having 1/4 less people on this god forsaken planet.

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #5300 on:** August 05, 2020, 02:12:32 AM »

bless that high-functioner, he is deep undercover and trying

https://twitter.com/MailOnline/status/1283317640124039169

Quote from: EchoRin on August 04, 2020, 08:43:46 PM

I may be no Occam, but I'm all good with like having 1/4 less people on this god forsaken planet.

"we could do with 1.95 billion less people"
~Echo "occamrin" Rin

aye aye

naff · « **Reply #5301 on:** August 05, 2020, 02:22:58 AM »

Quote from: EchoRin on August 04, 2020, 08:43:46 PM

I may be no Occam, but I'm all good with like having 1/4 less people on this god forsaken planet.

too bad that won't fix anything

naff · « **Reply #5302 on:** August 05, 2020, 02:36:39 AM »

kind of a pointless stat in regards to the current conversation but if we all lived at the pop density of metropolitan tokyo the world's pop could fit within the state of california. personally love urban density done well. californians/'murcan govt can't even manage a single high speed rail network between San Fran and LA though so probably not the best place to propose large infrastructure projects.

Transhuman · « **Reply #5303 on:** August 05, 2020, 03:02:46 AM »

Quote from: naff on August 05, 2020, 02:22:58 AM

Quote from: EchoRin on August 04, 2020, 08:43:46 PM
I may be no Occam, but I'm all good with like having 1/4 less people on this god forsaken planet.

too bad that won't fix anything

Wouldn't hurt though...

team filler · « **Reply #5304 on:** August 05, 2020, 03:10:43 AM »

Quote from: Transhuman on August 05, 2020, 03:02:46 AM

Quote from: naff on August 05, 2020, 02:22:58 AM
Quote from: EchoRin on August 04, 2020, 08:43:46 PM
I may be no Occam, but I'm all good with like having 1/4 less people on this god forsaken planet.

too bad that won't fix anything

Wouldn't hurt though...

it would hurt if you were one of the 1/4 less

naff · « **Reply #5305 on:** August 05, 2020, 03:14:16 AM »

nah, you could just get rid of australasia and the usa (~5%) and cut back on global energy consumption by nearly 20%! paris agreement smashed in record time

BIONIC · « **Reply #5306 on:** August 05, 2020, 03:18:19 AM »

Kill everyone except for me, filler, and his ever increasing number of wives

Kara · « **Reply #5307 on:** August 05, 2020, 03:20:37 AM »

If you render the planet uninhabitable faster than it's already going to be uninhabitable then China will be uninhabitable and thus no longer an international threat.

Transhuman · « **Reply #5308 on:** August 05, 2020, 03:23:38 AM »

Quote from: filler on August 05, 2020, 03:10:43 AM

Quote from: Transhuman on August 05, 2020, 03:02:46 AM
Quote from: naff on August 05, 2020, 02:22:58 AM
Quote from: EchoRin on August 04, 2020, 08:43:46 PM
I may be no Occam, but I'm all good with like having 1/4 less people on this god forsaken planet.

too bad that won't fix anything

Wouldn't hurt though...
it would hurt if you were one of the 1/4 less

That's a lot of pressure man

EchoRin · « **Reply #5309 on:** August 05, 2020, 03:28:22 AM »

Less man, more animals. That's all I'm saying. Our numbers are more than enough

naff · « **Reply #5310 on:** August 05, 2020, 03:33:40 AM »

eh, just seems like such small brain thinking. we're so close to birth parity, our population is barely increasing, and there are more than enough resources to go around. we're just being really fucking dumb about it all, with certain populations being a hell of a lot more stubborn about it than others.

didn't realise america's distribution of renewable energy was so damned bad too. 11%. one of the wealthiest nations in the worlds, less than 5% of the worlds population, but 17% of global energy consumption, and only 11% is renewable...

https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/us-energy-facts/

here's to the champs

EchoRin · « **Reply #5311 on:** August 05, 2020, 03:36:25 AM »

Oh I'm not really applying any critical thought and trying to analyze problems to come up with solutions.

I just feel like playing God and capping humans at 6 billion.

VomKriege · « **Reply #5312 on:** August 05, 2020, 05:54:27 AM »

https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1290948222001741824

https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1290947258733727746

1 billion Americans and I only get 300 retweets ? #shadowban

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #5313 on:** August 05, 2020, 09:28:33 AM »

Quote from: naff on August 05, 2020, 02:36:39 AM

kind of a pointless stat in regards to the current conversation but if we all lived at the pop density of metropolitan tokyo the world's pop could fit within the state of california. personally love urban density done well. californians/'murcan govt can't even manage a single high speed rail network between San Fran and LA though so probably not the best place to propose large infrastructure projects.

Honestly, yeah, I'm down for one super-massive megacity.

Oblivion · « **Reply #5314 on:** August 05, 2020, 02:34:39 PM »

https://twitter.com/LitAnscombe/status/1291060717139845121

Nintex · « **Reply #5315 on:** August 05, 2020, 02:36:39 PM »

Quote from: Oblivion on August 05, 2020, 02:34:39 PM

https://twitter.com/LitAnscombe/status/1291060717139845121

He transitioned in a clinic in Moscow, that would be a fitting continuation of his arc

VomKriege · « **Reply #5316 on:** August 05, 2020, 07:02:02 PM »

https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1291116952916828161

What if they are alive and counted as fake Corona fatalities tho ?

Tripon · « **Reply #5317 on:** August 05, 2020, 07:04:10 PM »

https://twitter.com/CosmologicalYT/status/1289216758524440578

VomKriege · « **Reply #5318 on:** August 05, 2020, 07:05:08 PM »

https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1291131078070005760

VomKriege · « **Reply #5319 on:** August 05, 2020, 07:09:33 PM »

https://thefederalist.com/2020/08/03/americans-are-turning-away-from-religion-toward-dangerous-secular-cults/

Mandark · « **Reply #5320 on:** August 05, 2020, 07:11:07 PM »

"On the right and the left, pseudo-religious cults are ensnaring a growing number of Americans as traditional religions decline."

stopping here and guessing that for the right it's qanon and for the left it's the cult of science or something

edit: it was qanon and "the cult of woke." partial credit but really should have gotten that one

Transhuman · « **Reply #5321 on:** August 05, 2020, 07:19:28 PM »

It is a shame when people join these pseudo-religious cults instead of actual religious cults like the good old days.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #5322 on:** August 05, 2020, 07:32:28 PM »

Transhuman · « **Reply #5323 on:** August 05, 2020, 07:34:24 PM »

Quote from: Joe Molotov on August 05, 2020, 07:32:28 PM

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It's a shame you grew up in the 70's Joe

naff · « **Reply #5324 on:** August 05, 2020, 07:36:45 PM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on August 05, 2020, 09:28:33 AM

Quote from: naff on August 05, 2020, 02:36:39 AM
kind of a pointless stat in regards to the current conversation but if we all lived at the pop density of metropolitan tokyo the world's pop could fit within the state of california. personally love urban density done well. californians/'murcan govt can't even manage a single high speed rail network between San Fran and LA though so probably not the best place to propose large infrastructure projects.

Honestly, yeah, I'm down for one super-massive megacity.

recently went through an interview process for a job in tokyo but decided things are all a bit fucked rn for big changes. very keen to try life in one of tokyos really dense wards one day.