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Re: Laissez-faire Politics Thread - Praxis? I didn't play Deus Ex, sorry.
« Reply #1441 on: March 19, 2020, 12:39:47 PM »
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Re: Laissez-faire Politics Thread - Praxis? I didn't play Deus Ex, sorry.
« Reply #1445 on: March 21, 2020, 12:28:49 PM »
daddy joe being radicalized, you love to see it:

https://twitter.com/spaceprole/status/1241059322177695746

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« Reply #1446 on: March 21, 2020, 04:16:51 PM »

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« Reply #1447 on: March 21, 2020, 07:16:53 PM »
Massive Mike Davis interview about coronavirus, lots of good global analysis and historical info:

https://www.thedigradio.com/podcast/mike-davis-on-coronavirus-politics/

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« Reply #1448 on: March 21, 2020, 07:33:39 PM »
anyone know what book he mentions as the ‘best book on the history of the spd’ or whatever? listened to it earlier, forgot the title and dont feel like combing through 2 hours of podcast

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« Reply #1449 on: March 23, 2020, 12:53:26 AM »

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« Reply #1450 on: March 23, 2020, 01:32:51 AM »
Cheer up, I bring tidings from Lenin.
Social distance, recover, and take care of yourselves.



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« Reply #1451 on: March 23, 2020, 01:43:57 AM »
Okay sorry, one more for the time being cuz I finally found out why people consider troyskyism a meme


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Re: Laissez-faire Politics Thread - Praxis? I didn't play Deus Ex, sorry.
« Reply #1452 on: March 23, 2020, 03:05:57 PM »
Quote from: Fall 2019 student evaluation of PSC 1003 Foundations of American Government
far left professor does not cover Judeo-Christian foundations of America at all, instead spends weeks claiming that many of the Founding Founders were radical liberals, has wasted class time to childishly mock President Washington
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it's only like a week, not "weeks"

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« Reply #1453 on: March 23, 2020, 03:21:42 PM »
at a prior school this one professor got an evaluation that graded him a 1.0 and simply said "spreads Marxist propaganda"

dude was basically like a John McCain circa 2000/Colin Powell type Republican

and the class was about the election process

he called it the most thought-provoking evaluation from a student he had ever received

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« Reply #1454 on: March 23, 2020, 05:15:03 PM »
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« Reply #1455 on: March 23, 2020, 09:19:40 PM »
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« Reply #1457 on: March 24, 2020, 06:24:35 AM »
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« Reply #1458 on: March 24, 2020, 11:31:03 PM »

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« Reply #1459 on: March 25, 2020, 12:03:22 AM »
https://twitter.com/latimes/status/1242636826864574464

Subway developing a class consciousness?  :doge

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« Reply #1460 on: March 25, 2020, 12:32:24 AM »
It's a conflict between different factions of capital, not a proletarian consciousness arising from the big bourgeoisie
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« Reply #1461 on: March 25, 2020, 03:25:40 AM »
It's a conflict between different factions of capital, not a proletarian consciousness arising from the big bourgeoisie :trumps
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« Reply #1465 on: March 26, 2020, 05:19:42 PM »
Everyone knows the best possible perspectives ignore time.

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« Reply #1466 on: March 26, 2020, 08:24:31 PM »
Rudy's tweet is already outdated, by the way, since we're now up to 1,200 corona deaths.
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« Reply #1467 on: March 26, 2020, 08:47:25 PM »
Every day someone has tweeted a version of that: "We're really panicking about something that's only killed X people?"

I bet if you curated them it would be a great demonstration of the concept of exponential growth.

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« Reply #1468 on: March 26, 2020, 08:56:54 PM »
socialism for viruses and rugged individualism for the hosts  >:(
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« Reply #1469 on: March 26, 2020, 09:06:39 PM »
Every day someone has tweeted a version of that: "We're really panicking about something that's only killed X people?"

I bet if you curated them it would be a great demonstration of the concept of exponential growth.

Here is one point in the chain

https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1243212428613226502


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« Reply #1471 on: March 26, 2020, 09:37:19 PM »
gazing too much at Bill's tweeter is gazing into the void
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« Reply #1472 on: March 26, 2020, 10:45:52 PM »
Cons crying crocodile tears and hand-wringing and pearl-clutching over "suicides" due to an economic are disgusting, because I guarantee they didn't give one single damn about mental health issues before all this started up.
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« Reply #1473 on: March 26, 2020, 11:24:48 PM »
Cons crying crocodile tears and hand-wringing and pearl-clutching over "suicides" due to an economic are disgusting, because I guarantee they didn't give one single damn about mental health issues before all this started up.

Not true!

Look at the three days following any mass shooting.

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« Reply #1474 on: March 26, 2020, 11:32:29 PM »
Cons crying crocodile tears and hand-wringing and pearl-clutching over "suicides" due to an economic are disgusting, because I guarantee they didn't give one single damn about mental health issues before all this started up.

Not true!

Look at the three days following any mass shooting.

On one caveat, white shooter.


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« Reply #1479 on: March 28, 2020, 01:53:14 PM »
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« Reply #1480 on: March 30, 2020, 10:19:05 PM »
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« Reply #1481 on: April 01, 2020, 02:20:23 AM »
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/common-good-constitutionalism/609037/
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Originalism comes in several varieties (baroque debates about key theoretical ideas rage among its proponents), but their common core is the view that constitutional meaning was fixed at the time of the Constitution’s enactment. This approach served legal conservatives well in the hostile environment in which originalism was first developed, and for some time afterward.

But originalism has now outlived its utility, and has become an obstacle to the development of a robust, substantively conservative approach to constitutional law and interpretation. Such an approach—one might call it “common-good constitutionalism”—should be based on the principles that government helps direct persons, associations, and society generally toward the common good, and that strong rule in the interest of attaining the common good is entirely legitimate. In this time of global pandemic, the need for such an approach is all the greater, as it has become clear that a just governing order must have ample power to cope with large-scale crises of public health and well-being—reading “health” in many senses, not only literal and physical but also metaphorical and social.
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Assured of this, conservatives ought to turn their attention to developing new and more robust alternatives to both originalism and left-liberal constitutionalism. It is now possible to imagine a substantive moral constitutionalism that, although not enslaved to the original meaning of the Constitution, is also liberated from the left-liberals’ overarching sacramental narrative, the relentless expansion of individualistic autonomy. Alternatively, in a formulation I prefer, one can imagine an illiberal legalism that is not “conservative” at all, insofar as standard conservatism is content to play defensively within the procedural rules of the liberal order.

This approach should take as its starting point substantive moral principles that conduce to the common good, principles that officials (including, but by no means limited to, judges) should read into the majestic generalities and ambiguities of the written Constitution. These principles include respect for the authority of rule and of rulers; respect for the hierarchies needed for society to function; solidarity within and among families, social groups, and workers’ unions, trade associations, and professions; appropriate subsidiarity, or respect for the legitimate roles of public bodies and associations at all levels of government and society; and a candid willingness to “legislate morality”—indeed, a recognition that all legislation is necessarily founded on some substantive conception of morality, and that the promotion of morality is a core and legitimate function of authority. Such principles promote the common good and make for a just and well-ordered society.
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Common-good constitutionalism is not legal positivism, meaning that it is not tethered to particular written instruments of civil law or the will of the legislators who created them. Instead it draws upon an immemorial tradition that includes, in addition to positive law, sources such as the ius gentium—the law of nations or the “general law” common to all civilized legal systems—and principles of objective natural morality, including legal morality in the sense used by the American legal theorist Lon Fuller: the inner logic that the activity of law should follow in order to function well as law.

Common-good constitutionalism is also not legal liberalism or libertarianism. Its main aim is certainly not to maximize individual autonomy or to minimize the abuse of power (an incoherent goal in any event), but instead to ensure that the ruler has the power needed to rule well.
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Constraints on power are good only derivatively, insofar as they contribute to the common good; the emphasis should not be on liberty as an abstract object of quasi-religious devotion, but on particular human liberties whose protection is a duty of justice or prudence on the part of the ruler.

Finally, unlike legal liberalism, common-good constitutionalism does not suffer from a horror of political domination and hierarchy, because it sees that law is parental, a wise teacher and an inculcator of good habits. Just authority in rulers can be exercised for the good of subjects, if necessary even against the subjects’ own perceptions of what is best for them—perceptions that may change over time anyway, as the law teaches, habituates, and re-forms them. Subjects will come to thank the ruler whose legal strictures, possibly experienced at first as coercive, encourage subjects to form more authentic desires for the individual and common goods, better habits, and beliefs that better track and promote communal well-being.
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This is not the occasion to offer a bill of particulars about how constitutional law might change under this approach, but a few broad strokes can be sketched. The Court’s jurisprudence on free speech, abortion, sexual liberties, and related matters will prove vulnerable under a regime of common-good constitutionalism. The claim, from the notorious joint opinion in Planned Parenthood v. Casey, that each individual may “define one’s own concept of existence, of meaning, of the universe, and of the mystery of human life” should be not only rejected but stamped as abominable, beyond the realm of the acceptable forever after. So too should the libertarian assumptions central to free-speech law and free-speech ideology—that government is forbidden to judge the quality and moral worth of public speech, that “one man’s vulgarity is another’s lyric,”  and so on—fall under the ax. Libertarian conceptions of property rights and economic rights will also have to go, insofar as they bar the state from enforcing duties of community and solidarity in the use and distribution of resources.

As for the structure and distribution of authority within government, common-good constitutionalism will favor a powerful presidency ruling over a powerful bureaucracy, the latter acting through principles of administrative law’s inner morality with a view to promoting solidarity and subsidiarity. The bureaucracy will be seen not as an enemy, but as the strong hand of legitimate rule.
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Elaborating on the common-good principle that no constitutional right to refuse vaccination exists, constitutional law will define in broad terms the authority of the state to protect the public’s health and well-being, protecting the weak from pandemics and scourges of many kinds—biological, social, and economic—even when doing so requires overriding the selfish claims of individuals to private “rights.” Thus the state will enjoy authority to curb the social and economic pretensions of the urban-gentry liberals who so often place their own satisfactions (financial and sexual) and the good of their class or social milieu above the common good.
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« Reply #1482 on: April 01, 2020, 02:22:08 AM »
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Cornelius Adrian Comstock Vermeule (/vərˈmjuːl/[1], born May 2, 1968) is an American legal scholar, currently a law professor at Harvard Law School.
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Since converting to Catholicism, Vermeule is now an advocate of integralism, a Roman Catholic political doctrine which calls for the abolition of the division between church and state, in order that the resulting theocratic state can promote a religiously-determined "Highest Good" in place of the personal autonomy of a liberal democracy. Their ideal is to create this new confessional Catholic regime through "strategic raillement", or transformation from within institutions and bureaucracies, rather than by winning elections. The groundwork for a full integralist regime would then be in place when liberal democracy dies. The new state would "exercise coercion over baptized citizens in a manner different from non-baptized citizens".[9][10][11]

To achieve this end, Vermeule has suggested giving confirmed Catholics priority in immigration, allowing them to "jump immediately to the head of the queue". Vermeule describes this as being essential to "the eventual formation of the Empire of Our Lady of Guadalupe, and ultimately the world government required by natural law".[12]

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« Reply #1483 on: April 01, 2020, 10:12:30 AM »
The popists are at it again.

Kulturkampf NOW  >:(

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« Reply #1484 on: April 01, 2020, 08:07:34 PM »
Automation should tie into things should it not?
Increase in productivity but no reward for the worker. Increasing concentration of capital. Utilize research across the world and years for the purpose of the cheapest and most exploitable labour possible. Foreground for class conflict fomentation. Etc...


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« Reply #1485 on: April 01, 2020, 08:55:36 PM »
Anarchism is speccing into dorkism so no worries

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« Reply #1487 on: April 02, 2020, 11:40:33 AM »
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« Reply #1491 on: April 03, 2020, 11:04:26 PM »
virgin clear goals vs chad charismatic championing of broad ideas and action

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« Reply #1492 on: April 04, 2020, 12:25:14 PM »
Fucking lol at those Twitter handles. Club des Cordeliers, Rosa Luxembourgeoise...  ::)
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« Reply #1493 on: April 05, 2020, 05:48:25 PM »
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« Reply #1495 on: April 08, 2020, 05:02:06 PM »
https://williambowles.info/2020/04/05/why-coronavirus-could-spark-a-capitalist-supernova/

By John Smith (author of Imperialism in the 21st Century)

Interesting read. Yeah, it does seem like the current situation is one for which the South will get the short-end. But can't say it's shocking, all around there is prioritization within borders.
Or in the case of the USA, not even, much more dysfunctional and even the States and Feds unable to function as one.

Certainly the discourse is going to be on some real shit this year, where that leads, we shall see.

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« Reply #1496 on: April 08, 2020, 05:38:54 PM »
Yes it is a little weird seeing his attempt at motivating, he doesn't have the chops Parenti has  :hmph

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« Reply #1497 on: April 08, 2020, 07:37:56 PM »
On that note, finally mustered motivation to read a bit.
Against Empire :aah

Arms for Profit section, how cutting and relevant  :whew
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« Reply #1498 on: April 08, 2020, 08:35:01 PM »
fuck you americans, you devils :pacspit

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« Reply #1499 on: April 09, 2020, 01:11:55 AM »
Melted through that shit like James through goodwill or Mandark through Shosta.
Fuck, now I'm mad and want to do something but can't even leave the house :rage