River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible

[Don Rumata]

I’m still trying to understand how supposedly ‘woke’ people have decided that the person on the poster is transgender. It makes absolutely no fucking sense whatsoever. First, you’d need to assign a definite gender to the person in the picture, and then, you need to create a situation where they were born expected to confirm to a different gender.

I feel like I’m going crazy. I’ve seen one whole post that points out the separation between sex and gender, and that’s it. It’s as if everyone just forgot.

See:

It literally does not matter if the woman in the ad is cis with a prosthetic or not. It’s still relying on trans imagery. It’s still pairing a picture of a woman with a penis with a portmanteau of “chromosome” and “manticore”.

[PogiJones]

Just checked; 6% of the posters in that thread account for nearly 1/3rd of all the posts.

[PogiJones]

I’m still trying to understand how supposedly ‘woke’ people have decided that the person on the poster is transgender. It makes absolutely no fucking sense whatsoever. First, you’d need to assign a definite gender to the person in the picture, and then, you need to create a situation where they were born expected to confirm to a different gender.

I feel like I’m going crazy. I’ve seen one whole post that points out the separation between sex and gender, and that’s it. It’s as if everyone just forgot.

I actually don't mind if someone is a "sex and gender are different things" person or if they're a "sex and gender are the same thing" person, since we're just talking definitions. All I ask is that they be consistent, instead of just constantly flipping from one definition to another to win an argument.

[Rufus]

this idpol based idea that if you consider yourself a member of a specific group that your opinions on something *as a member of a group* are therefore the opinions held by the entirety of that group, and that you therefore have the authority to declare something as heretical to that group because you don't like it is pretty terrible

That's not an "idpol based idea." See every sentence every uttered that began with or contained a variation of "as a [xyz]."

Why is re-branding regular human behaviour like that so successful?

[SmokyDave]

See:

It literally does not matter if the woman in the ad is cis with a prosthetic or not. It’s still relying on trans imagery. It’s still pairing a picture of a woman with a penis with a portmanteau of “chromosome” and “manticore”.

It literally does matter though, that’s just it. A woman with a prosthetic penis isn’t ‘trans imagery’ unless you have no understanding of the difference between sex and gender. She might well be transsexual, but I would think it’s likeliest that she’s neither transgender nor transsexual, and is in fact a cisgender woman with an augmented cock.

I noticed that although the artist mentioned the LGBT community, she never referred to the person as being trans.

I don’t know why it’s vexing me so much, but I can’t help but feel like people are fighting battles that won’t help them win wars.

I actually don't mind if someone is a "sex and gender are different things" person or if they're a "sex and gender are the same thing" person, since we're just talking definitions. All I ask is that they be consistent, instead of just constantly flipping from one definition to another to win an argument.

Referring strictly to Reset, they’re a bunch of hypocritical fucks. I’m not at all surprised that they’ll simply choose whichever politics suit them in the moment. I’ve seen other trans voices that I actually respect upset by this CDPR stuff though, and although I don’t want to argue with them, I’m confused and disappointed. Getting strident about shit that you’re not consistent with is a terrible idea.

[Uncle]

Just checked; 6% of the posters in that thread account for nearly 1/3rd of all the posts.

this is because 6% of the population is trans and when they speak the rest of us need to shut up and listen

if we're not part of the 6% the issue doesn't concern us and we really have no business commenting on it

[marrec]

Just checked; 6% of the posters in that thread account for nearly 1/3rd of all the posts.

I assume those 6% are either directly or indirectly responsible for 90% of the bans as well.

Real great system ya go there ERA

[Don Rumata]

I think it's a woman who's just trying to mix it up for once.

Maybe she has no pockets, and that's how she carries around her dildo.

[marrec]

I think it's a woman who's just trying to mix it up for once.

Maybe she has no pockets, and that's how she carries around her dildo.

It's actually an elephant trunk #transhumanism

[Uncle]

I think it's a woman who's just trying to mix it up for once.

Turns out there is a second poster showing her at home undressing, she doesn't have a dick at all, just striped panties underneath a strangely pleated codpiece, we see the other side of it and it's just some ridges

[Rufus]

Forget the futa-mods, what are the teledildonics like?

[Raist]

I think it's a woman who's just trying to mix it up for once.

Maybe she has no pockets, and that's how she carries around her dildo.

Maybe she has a scat fetish, and that's not actually a penis.

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/IGN/status/1139235008424452096

#cancelIGN

[MMaRsu]

Ohhh shit IGN ABOUT TO GET IT

I am curious to see what Jeff Gerstmann has to say on this matter

[Nintex]

By the time REEEE wakes up from the Cyberpunk controversy Boris is PM and they can lose hope forever 

[nachobro]

I’m still trying to understand how supposedly ‘woke’ people have decided that the person on the poster is transgender. It makes absolutely no fucking sense whatsoever. First, you’d need to assign a definite gender to the person in the picture, and then, you need to create a situation where they were born expected to confirm to a different gender.

I feel like I’m going crazy. I’ve seen one whole post that points out the separation between sex and gender, and that’s it. It’s as if everyone just forgot.

easy: if you really really want to be mad, you'll make up any excuse and change your logic at will to justify it

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/CyberpunkGame/status/1139001631754858496

Greg Miller: #canceled

https://twitter.com/AdamBadowski/status/1138915854630789120

Jack Black: #canceled

https://twitter.com/AdamBadowski/status/1138911109015003136

Nathan Fillion: #canceled

https://twitter.com/gamespite/status/1138890720033611777

Jeremy Parish: #notcanceled

https://twitter.com/charlesrandall/status/1138920998345027584

Random due on twitter: #notcanceled

[nachobro]

oh no the overwhelming cost of some twitter nutjobs getting bent out of shape (and eventually playing the game themselves cause they have no self control)

http://twitter.com/HardPolack/status/1139231525747208195

typical polack response

[nachobro]

this dude going extra hard on the wokeness

[nachobro]

well yes, but actually no

[MMaRsu]

well yes, but actually no

[Joe Molotov]

oh no the overwhelming cost of some twitter nutjobs getting bent out of shape (and eventually playing the game themselves cause they have no self control)

http://twitter.com/HardPolack/status/1139231525747208195

typical polack response

Benji, can you sort this?

[james]

I think it's a woman who's just trying to mix it up for once.

Maybe she has no pockets, and that's how she carries around her dildo.

Maybe she has a scat fetish, and that's not actually a penis.

Maybe she has a horrible tumor and you all are body shaming someone who has 3 months to live.

[Jenkem]

bork censored my post even though it was already censored via lens flares

 

[james]

bork censored my post even though it was already censored via lens flares

 

"censored"

You could see shaft

[Thirty-Ought-Six]

To be fair, the concept is threatening in a way (as it should be, since wholesale changes to the human condition are scary). Being trans loses some meaning in a world where you can remake your body at will; if you can remake your body to such an extent, there is less gravity to an initial mismatch of body with mind or societal expectations. One of the possible outcomes of this lessened gravity is that body transformations of that type would be commercialized like in the ad. It is scary to imagine such a change.

[Uncle]

did i miss shaft?

[HaughtyFrank]

It's funny how Gestault realizes that following the rules of the forum, you're not allowed to disagree with a trans member, no matter their opinion, but he only points this out when one trans member complaints that the transgender people who are ok with the depiction are being ignored.

Stop disregarding transgender people who disagree with you, please. You're at least the third person I see implying anyone agreeing with the artist is actually cis, and it's pretty tiresome.

You are arguing for the agency of transgender people by discounting us. Stop it.

I'll point out that you've created an oroboros of no one being able to disagree with you, while also putting together this strawman that reduces an accurate observation about cis hostility to "literally 100% of those who disagree with the artist are cis." Engaging with others in the convo IS part of listening to people, and that does include disagreement.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/polygon-cdpr-responds-to-sexualized-trans-advertisement-in-cyberpunk-2077-read-staff-post-before-posting.122807/post-21813915

[Uncle]

To be fair, the concept is threatening in a way (as it should be, since wholesale changes to the human condition are scary). Being trans loses some meaning in a world where you can remake your body at will; if you can remake your body to such an extent, there is less gravity to an initial mismatch of body with mind or societal expectations. One of the possible outcomes of this lessened gravity is that body transformations of that type would be commercialized like in the ad. It is scary to imagine such a change.

the only thing it threatens is losing the feeling that you're super special or should be treated more delicately than others, or that others need to cater to your concerns

[Crumb]

did i miss shaft?

Nah it's out tomorrow.

[james]

Yup, if everyone can put on or take off a penis at will their whole identity dissolves.

[Jenkem]

bork censored my post even though it was already censored via lens flares

 

"censored"

You could see shaft

I thought bork liked shaft.

[HaughtyFrank]

Also interesting that Mike Pondsmith loves the Voodoo boys in 2077


(16:09)

but I have a feeling that's where RE suddenly doesn't care about the opinion of a poc anymore.

[james]

bork censored my post even though it was already censored via lens flares

 

"censored"

You could see shaft

I thought bork liked shaft.

Bork is squidsexual, like most of us here

[nachobro]

Also interesting that Mike Pondsmith loves the Voodoo boys in 2077


(16:09)

but I have a feeling that's where RE suddenly doesn't care about the opinion of a poc anymore.

they'll just pretend he doesn't exist or call him a coon, that's their usual MO

[Lonewulfeus]

I think it's a woman who's just trying to mix it up for once.

I just assumed she was Guy Ritchie’s wife 🤷🏻‍♂️

[marrec]

Also interesting that Mike Pondsmith loves the Voodoo boys in 2077


(16:09)

but I have a feeling that's where RE suddenly doesn't care about the opinion of a poc anymore.

I assume the description of the demo spread widely as "a white protagonist gunning down endless black thugs" may be a bit hyperbolic.

[Don Rumata]

In this world, someone born male who identified as a woman would just become a woman biologically indistinguishable from any other, without too much difficulty. Trans people as they exist today wouldn't exist at all unless by choice.

Highly speculative fiction really shouldn't be bound into acknowledging and providing commentary on the social problems caused by the limitations of today's technology.

I'd wager if gender fluidity as well as sexual orientation fluidity are a thing (and enough time had passed for the technology to morph the culture), then people would probably go back and forth anyway, so it probably wouldn't make sense to even use a thousand categories.

[james]

In this world, someone born male who identified as a woman would just become a woman biologically indistinguishable from any other, without too much difficulty. Trans people as they exist today wouldn't exist at all unless by choice.

Highly speculative fiction really shouldn't be bound into acknowledging and providing commentary on the social problems caused by the limitations of today's technology.

I'd wager if gender fluidity as well as sexual orientation fluidity are a thing (and enough time had passed for the technology to morph the culture), then people would probably go back and forth anyway, so it probably wouldn't make sense to even use a thousand categories.

Like taking Polyjuice Potion to fuck your sister

Is it really incest if youre in her boyfriends body?

[james]

I like that The Bire can have a much deeper and genuinely more interesting discussion about cyberpunk the genre and how transgendered people may or may not fit in it than a forum with like 40% trans staff and a rigid policy meant to defend their right to exist and have dignity. Maybe... Poland isn't so bad after all.

You would have banned every person posting in this thread on Resetera

 

[marrec]

I like that The Bire can have a much deeper and genuinely more interesting discussion about cyberpunk the genre and how transgendered people may or may not fit in it than a forum with like 40% trans staff and a rigid policy meant to defend their right to exist and have dignity. Maybe... Poland isn't so bad after all.

To be fair, these are deeply existential issues for those 40%, so discussing them in any context can feel threatening.

It doesn't help that they then take these philosophical threats as literal and respond accordingly.

[thisismyusername]

Thread is now too long to summarize but there's been some great low-key drama in the Pokemon thread.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/pok%C3%A9mon-from-pok%C3%AAmon-home-can-be-transferred-to-sword-shield-only-if-in-galar-pok%C3%A9dex.122523/page-83

Basically Serebii is the pokemon version of Huelen and is going 100% at bat for the developers against the rising fan backlash, even as he chuckles nervously to himself and admits quietly that he's against the changes as well.

Edit- And yes I know who the guy is, he's run one of the biggest Poke sites since the 90s and you can in fact still see that in the design today.

Joe/Serebii is an idiot. We all know this, sweatie.



NeoGAF will forever immortalize his idiotic defense of the Pokemon centers being empty with:

[clothedmacuser]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/rttp-district-9-is-brilliant-social-commentary-on-immigration-and-the-weapons-industry.122929/

District 9 is brilliant social commentary on immigration and the weapons industry

 

In his post he says the District 9 company is "Blackwater," which doesn't build weapons.  Secondly, is the crime of Boeing testing Minutemen on people or is it developing a new weapons program ever 15 years that the USA is compelled to buy?

Saying D9 is commentary on the weapons industry is  the same literal minded, base analysis that has Era saying ephebophile squilds are political. 

[Potato]

I can't be bothered reading all these pages to catch up, so can somebody tell me if anyone has won the identity olympics yet?

[thisismyusername]

We knew at some point we weren't going to be able to indefinitely keep supporting all of the Pokemon, and we just found that Sword and Shield would probably be a good point to go back and reevaluate what would be the best selection of Pokemon that appeal to the widest audience while keeping into consideration the balance of the battle system

Okay, I understand this in a racional way and I get it... but...

GO FUCK YOURSELF ASSHOLE BITCH

I mean, that's dumb reasoning anyway: They have 700+ Pokemon now. Maybe...



And focus on regions, the combat system, etc instead of WOW NEW POKEMON WOW!?

[james]

Koffing was the last good pokemon

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

this dude going extra hard on the wokeness

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👏 trans 👏 folk 👏 sit 👏 down 👏 and 👏 listen 👏 to 👏 the 👏 concerns 👏 of 👏 cis 👏 white 👏 men 👏

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

To be fair, the concept is threatening in a way (as it should be, since wholesale changes to the human condition are scary). Being trans loses some meaning in a world where you can remake your body at will; if you can remake your body to such an extent, there is less gravity to an initial mismatch of body with mind or societal expectations. One of the possible outcomes of this lessened gravity is that body transformations of that type would be commercialized like in the ad. It is scary to imagine such a change.

[clothedmacuser]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/had-a-friend-tell-make-a-comment-on-my-features-looks-sign-of-her-being-toxic.123075/

My friend and I were chatting like usual, when after two drinks, she was starting to be a little more outspoken if you will.

So she says to me that I have features that resemble the Who characters from Seuss’ books.  This was after she didn’t want to tell me after I tried getting it out of her because I was both curious and wondering how mean-spirited this was going to become.

I shrugged it off initially. But it stood with me until today. And yeah, it’s fucked up. And I’m offended.

I’ve never taken a jab at her looks. Ever. So if after a fee drinks she telling me this, is this an indication that she’s actually an asshole?

I hit her up earlier and told her I felt bad after thinking about it. I was letting it rock as to sort out my feelings diplomatically.

But man, is this a sign she’s toxic and I should distance myself from her? . . .   and to me a sign she’s toxic and generally mean-spirited.
Or am I being soft?

Also, lmao, I kinda get what she was saying now LOL.

This guy's looks are the least of his problems.  Being a doormat in need of validation to have feelings is way less attractive.

And lol at a toxic friendship being getting ribbed for you appearance.  Toxic friends are needy alcoholics, borderline personalities, inveterate liars, social climbers, etc.  Not pussy ass gradeschool shit like, "she called me a bad name."

[james]

[BisMarckie]

Yup, I see it.

[BisMarckie]

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Is there porn starring this pokemon?

[james]

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Is there porn starring this pokemon?

[BisMarckie]

I though this was too tame, so I looked for it myself. All I have to say is: There are some very sick and twisted people in this world.

 :

[james]

I though this was too tame, so I looked for it myself. All I have to say is: There are some very sick and twisted people in this world.

I only post Bork approved content.

[james]

Why is Koffing's defense so high when he's a thin membrane around gas?

Because he is fucking adorable so no one dares attack him

[Cauliflower Of Love]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/had-a-friend-tell-make-a-comment-on-my-features-looks-sign-of-her-being-toxic.123075/

My friend and I were chatting like usual, when after two drinks, she was starting to be a little more outspoken if you will.

So she says to me that I have features that resemble the Who characters from Seuss’ books.  This was after she didn’t want to tell me after I tried getting it out of her because I was both curious and wondering how mean-spirited this was going to become.

I shrugged it off initially. But it stood with me until today. And yeah, it’s fucked up. And I’m offended.

I’ve never taken a jab at her looks. Ever. So if after a fee drinks she telling me this, is this an indication that she’s actually an asshole?

I hit her up earlier and told her I felt bad after thinking about it. I was letting it rock as to sort out my feelings diplomatically.

But man, is this a sign she’s toxic and I should distance myself from her? . . .   and to me a sign she’s toxic and generally mean-spirited.
Or am I being soft?

Also, lmao, I kinda get what she was saying now LOL.

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This guy's looks are the least of his problems.  Being a doormat in need of validation to have feelings is way less attractive.

And lol at a toxic friendship being getting ribbed for you appearance.  Toxic friends are needy alcoholics, borderline personalities, inveterate liars, social climbers, etc.  Not pussy ass gradeschool shit like, "she called me a bad name."

to-to-toxic

[Cauliflower Of Love]

I genuinely think that whole "use your face for an avatar" that was on gaf killed the forum.

[james]

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Someone at the investors meeting should have grilled Nintendo about Retro. 5+ years of nothing from that studio, and those employees are still getting paid, draining cash flow. What gives?

...maybe that actually is the real Ron Paul