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[Uncle]

What kind of person has the kind of time it takes to write this long ass post about RLM. Who has this kind of fucking time as an adult?

he said in a 600 page thread about a specific forum 

[ZombieSupaStar]

riotous, I don’t know how you have the patience to go round and round with them in the stadia threads. What’s the general sentiment of them this week? PC gaming is doomed? Console gaming is doomed?

these dense motherfuckers

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what would be the point of providing 11 teraflops for 1080p gaming

4k at 30 FPS takes a little over 7 teraflops last I checked

why would you give everyone that kind of overkill, just because "the specs say that's what it is"

I'd expect them to benchmark what's needed per game and provide whatever is required for max settings

I better get my 11 teraflops for free to stream Bejewled 3 and Rimworld (actually depending on the mods Rimworld could probably slow down stadia, ala Sim City 4 AI style).

Hell Dwarf Fortress will grind it to halt with the migrant population creep. And that game looks like an excel sheet had an aneurism.

[Uncle]

Chelsea Cain has this "poor me" martyr narrative but you look up the book and it's straightforward, it had good reviews but low sales 

if people want woke comics to succeed they either need to vote with their dollars or alternatively overthrow capitalism so content no longer needs to be justified by a paying audience

Chelsea Cain must be so done with comics. First people on the right got riled up by the "feminist agenda" cover and now people from the left hate her because they consider her latest book trans exclusionary

https://www.cbr.com/chelsea-cain-man-eaters-twitter-deletion-controversy/

All while none of it sales well

The series, which is about a world where a mutation causes menstruating women to transform into vicious cat creatures

[stufte]

What kind of person has the kind of time it takes to write this long ass post about RLM. Who has this kind of fucking time as an adult?

he said in a 600 page thread about a specific forum 

I would wager that most of my posts from the last month don't add up to even half the content of that one post. 

[ZombieSupaStar]

What kind of person has the kind of time it takes to write this long ass post about RLM. Who has this kind of fucking time as an adult?

he said in a 600 page thread about a specific forum 

I would wager that most of my posts from the last month don't add up to even half the content of that one post. 

I think that word count would take me at least 5 years of my online postings to equal. Only Twin Peaks: The Return woke me up for a bit on GAF.

[Uncle]

I better get my 11 teraflops for free to stream Bejewled 3 and Rimworld (actually depending on the mods Rimworld could probably slow down stadia, ala Sim City 4 AI style).

Hell Dwarf Fortress will grind it to halt with the migrant population creep. And that game looks like an excel sheet had an aneurism.

the only games you need 

[OnlyRegret]

wait, they're rebooting thor?
I thought he was going to be a drunkard in space now

[bork]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-critique-of-red-letter-media%E2%80%99s-bigoted-content-see-staff-post.129228/post-22966230

MASSIVE WALL OF TEXT

What kind of person has the kind of time it takes to write this long ass post about RLM. Who has this kind of fucking time as an adult?

™

[bork]

wait, they're rebooting thor?
I thought he was going to be a drunkard in space now

He still should be.  All we know if that Jane Foster is going to be female The Mighty Thor in the next movie. 

[Don Rumata]

wait, they're rebooting thor?
I thought he was going to be a drunkard in space now

He still should be.  All we know if that Jane Foster is going to be female The Mighty Thor in the next movie.

Thor is a name, not a title; even if they pass the hammer, why would they adopt the name? I'm confused.
Unless it works differently in the MCU.

[OnlyRegret]

It's confusing since I don't follow comics as religiously as other people so I don't get why there would be two people named Thor.

[Boredfrom]

wait, they're rebooting thor?
I thought he was going to be a drunkard in space now

He still should be.  All we know if that Jane Foster is going to be female The Mighty Thor in the next movie.

Thor is a name, not a title; even if they pass the hammer, why would they adopt the name? I'm confused.
Unless it works differently in the MCU.

It kind of works differently in the comics, but is kind of confusing. When the character started he had a human host of sorts, but I remember that latter they retconned on being some sort of artificial construct or Thor in human form in anycase or something.

 I didnt pay attention to FemThor stuff so was news to me that she was Jane Foster.

I feel the MCU can totally pull off a FemThor story arc, specially since it seems that they aren't kicking out Chris Hammsworth, but Natalie Portman didnt seem specially thrilled to comeback to the MCU. 

[HaughtyFrank]

wait, they're rebooting thor?
I thought he was going to be a drunkard in space now

He still should be.  All we know if that Jane Foster is going to be female The Mighty Thor in the next movie.

Thor is a name, not a title; even if they pass the hammer, why would they adopt the name? I'm confused.
Unless it works differently in the MCU.

It is kind of dumb and I hope the movie just avoids the name thing.

[Straight Edge]

Other characters semi-regularly get the powers of the Thor in the comics such as Beta Ray Bill, Thunderstrike, and eventually Jane Foster.

[stufte]

Other characters semi-regularly get the powers of the Thor in the comics such as Beta Ray Bill, Thunderstrike, and eventually Jane Foster.

Give me a Beta Ray Bill movie or give me death.

[Straight Edge]

There are rumors about an appearance in GOTG 3.

[bork]

wait, they're rebooting thor?
I thought he was going to be a drunkard in space now

He still should be.  All we know if that Jane Foster is going to be female The Mighty Thor in the next movie.

Thor is a name, not a title; even if they pass the hammer, why would they adopt the name? I'm confused.
Unless it works differently in the MCU.

Brief version.  Warning: nerd shit:

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Thor is deemed "unworthy" to hold the hammer after The Watcher (old white guy Nick Fury- don't ask) tells Thor about something he did in the past which causes him to lose the hammer.  His hammer just sits there until someone picks up and this is revealed to be a new female Thor.  This is explained by the inscription on the hammer stating that "Whosoever holds this hammer, if he be worthy, shall possess the power of Thor." 

Then we find out that Jane Foster is Thor (Thor himself stayed around using the name "Odinson" and doing his own things in other comics.)  They gave the character a finite life span in this role because she was dying from cancer and every time she changed into Thor, it undid whatever treatment she got.

That's gonna be pretty heavy if this is what the movie storyline adapts.  The character then died after
 one final transformation, Thor was back to Thor, and they brought her back again recently as a Valkyrie.

It's confusing since I don't follow comics as religiously as other people so I don't get why there would be two people named Thor.

They've done this before- Beta Ray Bill was "worthy" and transformed into Thor after picking up his hammer for the first time.


Comics
 

Oh yeah, forgot about this-

After Jane Foster Thor, there was also WAR THOR, who apparently was Volstagg wielding the Ultimate Thor's hammer.

[close]

The TL;DR version is that if they follow the comics, Natalie Portman as Thor doesn't mean that Chris Helmsworth is going anywhere.  He already has the axe to use instead of the hammer.  Fanboys losing their shit over movies they claim to hate all the time, yet spend truckloads of money running to the theaters to go watch multiple times.  The usual.

[Leadbelly]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-critique-of-red-letter-media%E2%80%99s-bigoted-content-see-staff-post.129228/post-22966230

MASSIVE WALL OF TEXT

What kind of person has the kind of time it takes to write this long ass post about RLM. Who has this kind of fucking time as an adult?

™

[paprikastaude]

What kind of person has the kind of time it takes to write this long ass post about RLM. Who has this kind of fucking time as an adult?

The same kind of desperate white knight that gets triggered into making pretentious comics about problematic RLM Aquaman jokes

[Mistress 9]

True story:  I walk into the bedroom to say hi to my white, naturally blonde, American wife and she says "I'm reporting posts on Resetera" lol.. you'll never guess which one.

I can’t stand self dignified sanctimonious assholes who parade around as a progressive woketurds and then are hypocritical prejudice fartholes the second they have a chance for back pats and circle jerks.

[team filler]

 

[team filler]

did mistress9 reprt righteous 

[VomKriege]

21st century Western world - *swipe* *swipe* *bleep* "Wanna grab a drink and vape " "I can't, I'm depressed" "Me2" "Shall we go watch Black Panther on Netflix?" "Isn't that racist?" "No not watching it is" "Ok, I'm up for some Netflix and Chill"
"Did you get the smoothies" "Yes" *leans in for a kiss* *bleep* "Did you get the consent form?" "I've got an app for that" *bleep* "Oh Hi dad" "Dating with cartoons again kid? I'm my day we would just head to the drive in and go see James Bond"
"I'm sorry I have to go" "Why, we just got our apps and" "I can't be with someone with such a SEXIST dad" "Oh..." "Why haven't you dumped your family yet" "I bet you are all racists" "Bye #stonemountain99" "Bye CrazyGUrlYeet"
"I hate you dad!" "Why little girl?" "You scared him away with your racism you nazi!"   

Peak Nintex 

Tommy Wiseau of The Bore imo

Ah ah you're my favourite poster Ninty.

[Uncle]

I have now seen riotous and his white wife

[VomKriege]

Cracks me up that on 'sit down and listen / believe women' resetera, the following isn't bannable:

"Never trust American white women, especially blondes, natural or otherwise."

Are they gaslighting me and they're actually another one of those altgate-misogynotoxic gaming communities?

Banned three days.

Contrast :
https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-jack-black-jablinski-games-doing-a-charity-stream-with-pewdiepie.130312/page-7#post-22961809

https://www.resetera.com/threads/pokemon-dynamax-and-gigantamax-discussion-thread-speculation-wishlist-big-bois-contains-possible-leak-spoilers.128348/post-22959519

[Leadbelly]

21st century Western world - *swipe* *swipe* *bleep* "Wanna grab a drink and vape " "I can't, I'm depressed" "Me2" "Shall we go watch Black Panther on Netflix?" "Isn't that racist?" "No not watching it is" "Ok, I'm up for some Netflix and Chill"
"Did you get the smoothies" "Yes" *leans in for a kiss* *bleep* "Did you get the consent form?" "I've got an app for that" *bleep* "Oh Hi dad" "Dating with cartoons again kid? I'm my day we would just head to the drive in and go see James Bond"
"I'm sorry I have to go" "Why, we just got our apps and" "I can't be with someone with such a SEXIST dad" "Oh..." "Why haven't you dumped your family yet" "I bet you are all racists" "Bye #stonemountain99" "Bye CrazyGUrlYeet"
"I hate you dad!" "Why little girl?" "You scared him away with your racism you nazi!"   

Peak Nintex 

Tommy Wiseau of The Bore imo

I was thinking actually... You know how we look back at some of the pastimes of our ancestors and think, that was weird? Did they really do that? Like for instance when Victorians would take pictures of their dead children or family members propped up on a chair as if they're still alive and put them in photo books.



People will look back at this generation in a similar way.

[Uncle]

children there was once a time when the highest ideal Man aspired to was to avoid making inflammatory generalizations on the internet

[team filler]

posting dead children is ok now? 

[HaughtyFrank]

This is why men are leaving resetera in droves

https://www.resetera.com/threads/himbos-in-gaming.130530/

[Leadbelly]

Like for instance when Victorians would take pictures of their dead children or family members propped up on a chair as if they're still alive and put them in photo books.

5 minutes away from my family's house in PR is a funeral home (that we've used) that offers these types of services:

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The guy on the bike... lol

[jorma]

21st century Western world - *swipe* *swipe* *bleep* "Wanna grab a drink and vape " "I can't, I'm depressed" "Me2" "Shall we go watch Black Panther on Netflix?" "Isn't that racist?" "No not watching it is" "Ok, I'm up for some Netflix and Chill"
"Did you get the smoothies" "Yes" *leans in for a kiss* *bleep* "Did you get the consent form?" "I've got an app for that" *bleep* "Oh Hi dad" "Dating with cartoons again kid? I'm my day we would just head to the drive in and go see James Bond"
"I'm sorry I have to go" "Why, we just got our apps and" "I can't be with someone with such a SEXIST dad" "Oh..." "Why haven't you dumped your family yet" "I bet you are all racists" "Bye #stonemountain99" "Bye CrazyGUrlYeet"
"I hate you dad!" "Why little girl?" "You scared him away with your racism you nazi!"   

Peak Nintex 

Tommy Wiseau of The Bore imo

And i suppose we're all his neighbores?

[BisMarckie]

posting dead children is ok now? 

Etoilate died for our sins.

[VomKriege]

posting dead children is ok now? 

[Snoopycat_]

If anyone's interested Gaf's fantasy survivalist club is holding it's weekly meeting

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/flat-earthers-climate-change-deniers-severe-political-and-ethnical-extremists-and-so-on-from-where-can-this-society-go-in-the-future.1494022/#post-254925151

"The best way to coup with the stupidity of society and common people that wants to continue Business as usual and everything is good.
is to find like minded people get out of your consumer mentality, start a community out of the grid, learn vital skills grow your own food."

Posts about living off the grid and eating potatos, while surrounded by consumer goods and fast food; but of course it's other people who are stupid and common

[D3RANG3D]

If anyone's interested Gaf's fantasy survivalist club is holding it's weekly meeting

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/flat-earthers-climate-change-deniers-severe-political-and-ethnical-extremists-and-so-on-from-where-can-this-society-go-in-the-future.1494022/#post-254925151

"The best way to coup with the stupidity of society and common people that wants to continue Business as usual and everything is good.
is to find like minded people get out of your consumer mentality, start a community out of the grid, learn vital skills grow your own food."

Posts about living off the grid and eating potatos, while surrounded by consumer goods and fast food; but of course it's other people who are stupid and common

 

[Kara]

 

[Leadbelly]

I noticed this picture... which I found quite haunting.

The girl standing up is dead. You can tell by her hands.



Edit: Actually not true. The girl is alive. It's a myth.
http://www.jesternoir.com/victorian-post-mortem-photography-photos-with-the-dead-myth-or-fact/

[Boredfrom]

Man, they shut that screnjunkies thread down quick.

The screen junkies guy sounds like a scumbag even when having screenshots.

[Boredfrom]

Man, they shut that screnjunkies thread down quick.

The screen junkies guy sounds like a scumbag even when having screenshots.

I mean, he is. Doesn't change the fact that she seemingly lied out of her ass.

Definitely, just that how he framed the video makes me want to dismiss him instantly. 

[Uncle]

yeah the receipts are pretty convincing

[Joe Molotov]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-critique-of-red-letter-media%E2%80%99s-bigoted-content-see-staff-post.129228/post-22966230

I figured I'd post my personal experience with RLM content here. I've never talked about it before, but I used to love the Harry S. Plinkett reviews. Like, a lot. I guess it's going to read kind of bloggy. Sorry about that. It's probably not that interesting.


I was in my mid-to-late teens when the original Plinkett reviews of the prequel trilogy came out. They were unlike anything else on the internet at the time and I thought they were truly sensational. I came across the Phantom Menace review shortly after its first release and was part of the crowd that clamored for them to "do the other movies" in between each review. I rewatched them pretty regularly. Every time I met someone who liked Star Wars but hadn't seen them we would make an evening out of watching them. I've seen the Plinkett prequel reviews more times each than I have seen any of the actual Star Wars films. Although I am part of the group that have "revisited the prequels" with some positivity my experience with them is still very largely defined by the RLM Plinkett videos.

As the Plinkett series went on and started to have an actual narrative behind the reviews I thought it was amazing experimental film-making and a seminal internet experience. I watched the Baby's Day Out and the Avatar reviews like once a month. I thought they were really funny, but more importantly, I found them extremely validating. Having a multi-hour analysis dedicated to something you largely agree with was a thrilling self-indulgent exercise. I didn't love these videos just because I thought they were funny and unique. I loved them because I thought they were right. I agreed with them. They weren't just funny to me, they were validating.

I never really got in to the actual personalities behind the show. I never watched the "real" reviews like the Half in the Bag. I was only in it for the Plinkett stuff. In a weird way those Plinkett reviews are part of why I loved Star Wars. Even though they were exceedingly negative and comedic, relating to the brand over how much I hated parts of it was really cathartic. That negativity was how I expressed my enthusiasm. While I definitely do not hold those videos in the same reverence that I did as a teenager, they definitely got me started on approaching things critically and trying to explain why I liked (or didn't like) something instead of just treating my opinion like its own absolute. They are juvenile, but so was I, and they were a great place to start at my age.


What changed how I felt about all of it was the Plinkett review of The Force Awakens, which prompted a great deal of self-reflection on my part. I still very vividly remember what got me reflecting on things. It was from an AV Club article linking the review. I was able to find it.

For those not in the know, Harry S. Plinkett is a movie-reviewing character created by RLM’s Mike Stoklasa. The character is often described as ”psychotic” and simultaneously embodies the best and worst qualities of online film reviewers. He’s able to offer thoughtful insights into the inherent flaws of mass-marketed genre pictures, while still maintaining his image as a hateful pizza-roll eating slob— albeit a self-aware one. Plinkett’s reviews of the Star Wars prequels became wildly popular a few years back, so people have eagerly awaited his take on Force Awakens.
When I read this, I thought it was spot-on. Harry S. Plinkett was always a post-modern Comic Book Guy to me. The Comic Book Guy in The Simpsons was an obvious archetype for the super-nerd who felt they were the authority on everything they loved. They spoke about their interests with pretentious exactitude and the audience was never meant to relate to this parody archetype. Comic Book Guy was funny, familiar, and common, but he was not portrayed as right.

Harry S. Plinkett was interesting to me because it cranked up the intensity to an almost Troma-level absurdity but he was also often right. What made him so captivating wasn't just the character, it's that you were meant to find what he was saying interesting, insightful, and even correct. You were supposed to relate to his criticism and beliefs even though you laughed at his character. I loved Harry S. Plinkett because I agreed with him. He said what I felt. The satire element wasn't only that he was extreme and perverse - it's that he gave good criticism too.

This meant Harry S. Plinkett wasn't just a satirical construct, he was a reflection of the viewer. Of me, even, which I was perfectly fine with. I thought it was good to portray such intense fan criticism with a self-deprecating tilt. Like, maybe we're all super in to what we love and have a lot to say about it, but what makes us different from that guy? Besides bestiality and murder, of course.

Then I watched the new video.

I haven't rewatched it since, so my memory is fuzzy, but there were several instances I remember as really uncomfortable. I remember him referring to the Star Trek movies and dropping a trans slur. I remember a diversion where he says he is "triggered" by the use of the phrase "mumbo-jumbo" and then goes on a fake tirade about how racist it is. This stuff sucked but I put off my response until the end of the video. And then it ended with a diversity rant... a long diversity rant. And this was really hard for me to parse. Because Plinkett was supposed to be a gross old murderer who said and did suspect things but ultimately said things I agreed with. His criticism was the selling point of the series. But this wasn't Plinkett saying what I was thinking. This was Plinkett making fun of me. This wasn't me relating to the Plinkett character in a tongue-in-cheek way, this was the Plinkett character making me the enemy.

And that was tough.

I thought back to the AV Club description of the Plinkett character from before I watched the video:

The character is often described as ”psychotic” and simultaneously embodies the best and worst qualities of online film reviewers. He’s able to offer thoughtful insights into the inherent flaws of mass-marketed genre pictures, while still maintaining his image as a hateful pizza-roll eating slob— albeit a self-aware one.
After watching the Force Awakens review, I didn't think this was true anymore. Instead of being a subversive construct that peddled legitimate and insightful film criticism under the veneer of a cranked-up Comic Book Guy, he'd become something totally different. The Plinkett character was definitely a hateful slob, but he wasn't self-aware anymore. He was, unironically, the kind of character he was supposed to be parodying. I liked the Plinkett character because it took my grievances with fandom and Star Wars movies and it put them in to words. It made them funny and far-reaching and somewhat smart. But Plinkett wasn't legitimizing my armchair criticism of Star Wars movies anymore. Now he was legitimizing ideas that hurt me. That part wasn't about Star Wars. That part was about me.


I just stopped watching after that and left any interest I had in their stuff behind. I was never really in to the RLM brand itself. I'm not on a first name basis with anybody. I don't know who anybody is or what they actually believe. But I know that I used to be really in to some of their content and felt really let down and targeted by that inclusivity rant. It made me rethink the whole series of reviews, and the entire character, and I felt completely alienated by something I used to really like. There have always been people who hated the Plinkett reviews and thought they were damaging to Star Wars discourse. I never gave any credence to that and still don't. I don't think saying "Phantom Menace doesn't have a main character" is damaging to Star Wars discourse. I don't think the super-flawed "how many things can you say about this character?" sequence hurts anybody. You can disagree with the method or the meaning but it's not damaging, I don't think.

But ranting about inclusivity and downplaying the significance it has, especially on young people, does hurt the discourse. It does hurt people. Because, just like I used to, there are people who watch the Plinkett reviews and laugh their ass off and think "this guy gets it!" I feel like the review for The Force Awakens validates the wrong kind of people and the wrong kind of criticism. That comes at my expense.

People can take what they want from this sort of content and maybe they can more easily separate out what they agree with and what they don't. But I really hate when people respond to these criticisms with claims of satire. Satire is not a shield. It's not a magic word that means you can say whatever you want without scrutiny. The whole point of satire, the very crux of its use, is to impart a political message. Including this section as a bullet point in a long review of Star Wars and the state of the brand isn't satirizing anything. It's airing a grievance. There is no way to delegitimize this part of the critique because the review presents it as legitimate.

I think continuing the Plinkett character in 2016 was a mistake. Star Wars discourse was extremely different after The Force Awakens and a character like Plinkett ceases to be subversive in an era where racists and misogynists reign social media with transparent fervor. Plinkett does not embody "the best and worst" qualities of anything anymore. It's just the worst.

And that makes me think back on how much I used to enjoy the content and how many people I initiated in to the character. I still can't think of pizza rolls without thinking of Plinkett. I still sometimes say "if you want to tell jokes, go to the circus." I still sometimes say "you might not have noticed, but your brain did." Stuff from Plinkett content that has been hard-coded in to my brain from all the times I watched the videos and shared them with others.

I wonder: did I change or did the content change? Did the Plinkett character become different or simply more of what it always was?

Anyway, I've never watched anything else from the site and am not very familiar with any of their modern or non-character content. I don't have any personal grievance with the site or the content beyond condemning the above and being disappointed by something I used to really like. From what one of my friends told me, their contemporary content is still very largely based on validating the existing feelings of their audience. So it probably isn't for me.


That's my sad story about how I used to like some funny internet videos and now I don't. Much ado about nothing, I suppose. But nice to talk about at least once.

Edit: Fixed some early-morning typos.

 

[Tasty]

I read that whole thing. Christ was that insufferable.

And yes, I hate myself.

[D3RANG3D]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-critique-of-red-letter-media%E2%80%99s-bigoted-content-see-staff-post.129228/post-22966230

I figured I'd post my personal experience with RLM content here. I've never talked about it before, but I used to love the Harry S. Plinkett reviews. Like, a lot. I guess it's going to read kind of bloggy. Sorry about that. It's probably not that interesting.


I was in my mid-to-late teens when the original Plinkett reviews of the prequel trilogy came out. They were unlike anything else on the internet at the time and I thought they were truly sensational. I came across the Phantom Menace review shortly after its first release and was part of the crowd that clamored for them to "do the other movies" in between each review. I rewatched them pretty regularly. Every time I met someone who liked Star Wars but hadn't seen them we would make an evening out of watching them. I've seen the Plinkett prequel reviews more times each than I have seen any of the actual Star Wars films. Although I am part of the group that have "revisited the prequels" with some positivity my experience with them is still very largely defined by the RLM Plinkett videos.

As the Plinkett series went on and started to have an actual narrative behind the reviews I thought it was amazing experimental film-making and a seminal internet experience. I watched the Baby's Day Out and the Avatar reviews like once a month. I thought they were really funny, but more importantly, I found them extremely validating. Having a multi-hour analysis dedicated to something you largely agree with was a thrilling self-indulgent exercise. I didn't love these videos just because I thought they were funny and unique. I loved them because I thought they were right. I agreed with them. They weren't just funny to me, they were validating.

I never really got in to the actual personalities behind the show. I never watched the "real" reviews like the Half in the Bag. I was only in it for the Plinkett stuff. In a weird way those Plinkett reviews are part of why I loved Star Wars. Even though they were exceedingly negative and comedic, relating to the brand over how much I hated parts of it was really cathartic. That negativity was how I expressed my enthusiasm. While I definitely do not hold those videos in the same reverence that I did as a teenager, they definitely got me started on approaching things critically and trying to explain why I liked (or didn't like) something instead of just treating my opinion like its own absolute. They are juvenile, but so was I, and they were a great place to start at my age.


What changed how I felt about all of it was the Plinkett review of The Force Awakens, which prompted a great deal of self-reflection on my part. I still very vividly remember what got me reflecting on things. It was from an AV Club article linking the review. I was able to find it.

For those not in the know, Harry S. Plinkett is a movie-reviewing character created by RLM’s Mike Stoklasa. The character is often described as ”psychotic” and simultaneously embodies the best and worst qualities of online film reviewers. He’s able to offer thoughtful insights into the inherent flaws of mass-marketed genre pictures, while still maintaining his image as a hateful pizza-roll eating slob— albeit a self-aware one. Plinkett’s reviews of the Star Wars prequels became wildly popular a few years back, so people have eagerly awaited his take on Force Awakens.
When I read this, I thought it was spot-on. Harry S. Plinkett was always a post-modern Comic Book Guy to me. The Comic Book Guy in The Simpsons was an obvious archetype for the super-nerd who felt they were the authority on everything they loved. They spoke about their interests with pretentious exactitude and the audience was never meant to relate to this parody archetype. Comic Book Guy was funny, familiar, and common, but he was not portrayed as right.

Harry S. Plinkett was interesting to me because it cranked up the intensity to an almost Troma-level absurdity but he was also often right. What made him so captivating wasn't just the character, it's that you were meant to find what he was saying interesting, insightful, and even correct. You were supposed to relate to his criticism and beliefs even though you laughed at his character. I loved Harry S. Plinkett because I agreed with him. He said what I felt. The satire element wasn't only that he was extreme and perverse - it's that he gave good criticism too.

This meant Harry S. Plinkett wasn't just a satirical construct, he was a reflection of the viewer. Of me, even, which I was perfectly fine with. I thought it was good to portray such intense fan criticism with a self-deprecating tilt. Like, maybe we're all super in to what we love and have a lot to say about it, but what makes us different from that guy? Besides bestiality and murder, of course.

Then I watched the new video.

I haven't rewatched it since, so my memory is fuzzy, but there were several instances I remember as really uncomfortable. I remember him referring to the Star Trek movies and dropping a trans slur. I remember a diversion where he says he is "triggered" by the use of the phrase "mumbo-jumbo" and then goes on a fake tirade about how racist it is. This stuff sucked but I put off my response until the end of the video. And then it ended with a diversity rant... a long diversity rant. And this was really hard for me to parse. Because Plinkett was supposed to be a gross old murderer who said and did suspect things but ultimately said things I agreed with. His criticism was the selling point of the series. But this wasn't Plinkett saying what I was thinking. This was Plinkett making fun of me. This wasn't me relating to the Plinkett character in a tongue-in-cheek way, this was the Plinkett character making me the enemy.

And that was tough.

I thought back to the AV Club description of the Plinkett character from before I watched the video:

The character is often described as ”psychotic” and simultaneously embodies the best and worst qualities of online film reviewers. He’s able to offer thoughtful insights into the inherent flaws of mass-marketed genre pictures, while still maintaining his image as a hateful pizza-roll eating slob— albeit a self-aware one.
After watching the Force Awakens review, I didn't think this was true anymore. Instead of being a subversive construct that peddled legitimate and insightful film criticism under the veneer of a cranked-up Comic Book Guy, he'd become something totally different. The Plinkett character was definitely a hateful slob, but he wasn't self-aware anymore. He was, unironically, the kind of character he was supposed to be parodying. I liked the Plinkett character because it took my grievances with fandom and Star Wars movies and it put them in to words. It made them funny and far-reaching and somewhat smart. But Plinkett wasn't legitimizing my armchair criticism of Star Wars movies anymore. Now he was legitimizing ideas that hurt me. That part wasn't about Star Wars. That part was about me.


I just stopped watching after that and left any interest I had in their stuff behind. I was never really in to the RLM brand itself. I'm not on a first name basis with anybody. I don't know who anybody is or what they actually believe. But I know that I used to be really in to some of their content and felt really let down and targeted by that inclusivity rant. It made me rethink the whole series of reviews, and the entire character, and I felt completely alienated by something I used to really like. There have always been people who hated the Plinkett reviews and thought they were damaging to Star Wars discourse. I never gave any credence to that and still don't. I don't think saying "Phantom Menace doesn't have a main character" is damaging to Star Wars discourse. I don't think the super-flawed "how many things can you say about this character?" sequence hurts anybody. You can disagree with the method or the meaning but it's not damaging, I don't think.

But ranting about inclusivity and downplaying the significance it has, especially on young people, does hurt the discourse. It does hurt people. Because, just like I used to, there are people who watch the Plinkett reviews and laugh their ass off and think "this guy gets it!" I feel like the review for The Force Awakens validates the wrong kind of people and the wrong kind of criticism. That comes at my expense.

People can take what they want from this sort of content and maybe they can more easily separate out what they agree with and what they don't. But I really hate when people respond to these criticisms with claims of satire. Satire is not a shield. It's not a magic word that means you can say whatever you want without scrutiny. The whole point of satire, the very crux of its use, is to impart a political message. Including this section as a bullet point in a long review of Star Wars and the state of the brand isn't satirizing anything. It's airing a grievance. There is no way to delegitimize this part of the critique because the review presents it as legitimate.

I think continuing the Plinkett character in 2016 was a mistake. Star Wars discourse was extremely different after The Force Awakens and a character like Plinkett ceases to be subversive in an era where racists and misogynists reign social media with transparent fervor. Plinkett does not embody "the best and worst" qualities of anything anymore. It's just the worst.

And that makes me think back on how much I used to enjoy the content and how many people I initiated in to the character. I still can't think of pizza rolls without thinking of Plinkett. I still sometimes say "if you want to tell jokes, go to the circus." I still sometimes say "you might not have noticed, but your brain did." Stuff from Plinkett content that has been hard-coded in to my brain from all the times I watched the videos and shared them with others.

I wonder: did I change or did the content change? Did the Plinkett character become different or simply more of what it always was?

Anyway, I've never watched anything else from the site and am not very familiar with any of their modern or non-character content. I don't have any personal grievance with the site or the content beyond condemning the above and being disappointed by something I used to really like. From what one of my friends told me, their contemporary content is still very largely based on validating the existing feelings of their audience. So it probably isn't for me.


That's my sad story about how I used to like some funny internet videos and now I don't. Much ado about nothing, I suppose. But nice to talk about at least once.

Edit: Fixed some early-morning typos.

[Joe Molotov]

TL;DR Version:

[Great Rumbler]

The Mockingbird miniseries was pretty good. Better than most of the MCU garbage.

 

[Propagandhim]

What kind of person has the kind of time it takes to write this long ass post about RLM. Who has this kind of fucking time as an adult?

he said in a 600 page thread about a specific forum 

I would wager that most of my posts from the last month don't add up to even half the content of that one post. 

And yet you society

 

[clothedmacuser]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/how-to-respond-when-the-moderate-white-voter-asks-of-the-progressive-agenda-whats-in-it-for-me.130512/

I run into this scenario often and, outside of purely moral reasoning, I'm at a loss about how to answer.

That person they describe in the op is the nightmare of Era.




Here was the Era thread on that comedy sketch.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-moderate-democrat-confesses-his-sins.43894/

[Great Rumbler]

I noticed this picture... which I found quite haunting.

The girl standing up is dead. You can tell by her hands.

(Image removed from quote.)

Edit: Actually not true. The girl is alive. It's a myth.
http://www.jesternoir.com/victorian-post-mortem-photography-photos-with-the-dead-myth-or-fact/

"Wow, look at this amazing picture!"

*five minutes later*

"Okay, actually it was fake."

[blame space]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/fire-emblem-three-houses-review-embargo-lifts-on-july-25-at-7am-pt-10am-et.130556/post-22978122

enthusiast video game review fanfiction

[Propagandhim]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/how-to-respond-when-the-moderate-white-voter-asks-of-the-progressive-agenda-whats-in-it-for-me.130512/

I run into this scenario often and, outside of purely moral reasoning, I'm at a loss about how to answer.

That person they describe in the op is the nightmare of Era.



https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-moderate-democrat-confesses-his-sins.43894/

He makes an average $45,000-$55,000/year salary as a rookie professional.
He is single, and lives alone in a studio apartment. Rent is roughly $2,000/month.

He will not vote for a candidate who is promising to ease the lives of the underprivileged if that person will also make his life more difficult.

Okay, seems reasonab...

"You're a selfish douche, go fuck yourself."

Sounds like he's selfish beyond salvation

Cutting away the rest of the fat, this just boils down to "how do I convince a selfish person that they should care about others?"

So pure selfishness.

 

[Uncle]

I noticed this picture... which I found quite haunting.

The girl standing up is dead. You can tell by her hands.

(Image removed from quote.)

Edit: Actually not true. The girl is alive. It's a myth.
http://www.jesternoir.com/victorian-post-mortem-photography-photos-with-the-dead-myth-or-fact/

the photo was taken almost 200 years ago what do you mean she's alive

[Nintex]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/fire-emblem-three-houses-review-embargo-lifts-on-july-25-at-7am-pt-10am-et.130556/post-22978122

enthusiast video game review fanfiction

Low effort, at least do Dunkey or Jim Sterling.

[Joe Molotov]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/how-to-respond-when-the-moderate-white-voter-asks-of-the-progressive-agenda-whats-in-it-for-me.130512/

I run into this scenario often and, outside of purely moral reasoning, I'm at a loss about how to answer.

That person they describe in the op is the nightmare of Era.



https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-moderate-democrat-confesses-his-sins.43894/

He makes an average $45,000-$55,000/year salary as a rookie professional.
He is single, and lives alone in a studio apartment. Rent is roughly $2,000/month.

He will not vote for a candidate who is promising to ease the lives of the underprivileged if that person will also make his life more difficult.

Okay, seems reasonab...

"You're a selfish douche, go fuck yourself."

Sounds like he's selfish beyond salvation

Cutting away the rest of the fat, this just boils down to "how do I convince a selfish person that they should care about others?"

So pure selfishness.

 

"How do we change people's minds?"

"Screw 'em, they're beyond being saved."

Having the hottest takes and also the ones that require zero work or effort on my part.

[Nintex]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/how-to-respond-when-the-moderate-white-voter-asks-of-the-progressive-agenda-whats-in-it-for-me.130512/

I run into this scenario often and, outside of purely moral reasoning, I'm at a loss about how to answer.

That person they describe in the op is the nightmare of Era.



https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-moderate-democrat-confesses-his-sins.43894/

He makes an average $45,000-$55,000/year salary as a rookie professional.
He is single, and lives alone in a studio apartment. Rent is roughly $2,000/month.

He will not vote for a candidate who is promising to ease the lives of the underprivileged if that person will also make his life more difficult.

Okay, seems reasonab...

"You're a selfish douche, go fuck yourself."

Sounds like he's selfish beyond salvation

Cutting away the rest of the fat, this just boils down to "how do I convince a selfish person that they should care about others?"

So pure selfishness.

 

"How do we change people's minds?"

"Screw 'em, they're beyond being saved."

Having the hottest takes and also the ones that require zero work or effort on my part.

"Hi guys, can you explain how progressive policies would work for me"

"You're a selfish douche, go fuck yourself." 

 


Low taxes    walls  don't you just love the flag jobs jobs jobs we're going to mars bitches the best economy in the world I could nuke millions   this shit's easy bring me more things to fix    watch that fucker go [with the steam]    your gas prices are like tax breaks    wanna grab a burger

[clothedmacuser]

"How do we change people's minds?"

"Screw 'em, they're beyond being saved."

Having the hottest takes and also the ones that require zero work or effort on my part.

It's not even changing minds.  It's getting a person to try a strawberry iced tea instead of their normal iced tea.  But even then if you vote Biden in the primaries instead of writing in AOC you are a bigot who can't be saved.

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[Propagandhim]

What policies would make that hypothetical guy's life worse?  He's making 45k a year in his 30s, and spending over half of it living alone in some studio.  What kind of progressive policy are they looking at here?  And why would it preclude him from being uplifted, too?


Who am I talking to?

[clothedmacuser]

What policies would make that hypothetical guy's life worse?  He's making 45k a year in his 30s, and spending over half of it living alone in some studio.  What kind of progressive policy are they looking at here?  And why would it preclude him from being uplifted, too?


Who am I talking to?

They are going to make black people's lives better.  Nothing steams a moderate more than that.

[Uncle]

[Propagandhim]

What policies would make that hypothetical guy's life worse?  He's making 45k a year in his 30s, and spending over half of it living alone in some studio.  What kind of progressive policy are they looking at here?  And why would it preclude him from being uplifted, too?


Who am I talking to?

They are going to make black people's lives better.  Nothing steams a moderate more than that.

But why would that make his life 'more difficult'?

[clothedmacuser]

What policies would make that hypothetical guy's life worse?  He's making 45k a year in his 30s, and spending over half of it living alone in some studio.  What kind of progressive policy are they looking at here?  And why would it preclude him from being uplifted, too?


Who am I talking to?

They are going to make black people's lives better.  Nothing steams a moderate more than that.

But why would that make his life 'more difficult'?

I just said, a black person's life improves.