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benjipwns

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41100 on: August 31, 2019, 07:49:36 PM »
User banned (1 week): racist/sexist commentary

For the white lady who wants something big and black in her pants at all times
:lol

daemon

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41101 on: August 31, 2019, 07:50:44 PM »
It’s funny to see Ree members act like this isn’t the outcome they wanted. They pile on, make posts about how someone should should be ruined, etc so quickly whenever news that someone may have a bad side to them. Even so slightly. This is what your cancel culture is. You have no moral Grey area you fucks. You do not understand that people are complicated and can be fucked up. You do not understand that judgement does no have to mean execution as well. This is what you fucks wanted. You don’t get to say “oh well he didn’t deserve this, he had problems too, this is horrible”. You people want to ruin someone’s life every single time.

I have no sympathy for these canceled culture fucks honestly. People are not a zero sum game like they treat them behind the safety of their computer screens.

Now let's see how they try to pat each-other's back and pretend it was guilt that made him do it, not a history of mental illness that made him unable to cope with that pressure. Unlike a certain depressed internet fostered celebrity that, while facing the World Hate Organization known as GamerGate, could get a book and several projects going plus free patreon money. It's just that... the guilt. Yes. I'm not a terrible person for wanting the whole pressure of society on his shoulders, ripping him off everything he loves.

benjipwns

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41102 on: August 31, 2019, 07:56:51 PM »
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This is not a "random accusation," this is a woman with a name and face who credibly came forward with allegations of abusive behavior towards an individual and was almost immediately backed up by several corroborating accounts from others.

This is exactly how the process works when we cannot count on law enforcement, the judicial system, or wider society to fix the problem of sexual abuse and assault. If you don't like it, fix the system.

Alec Howolka, and Alec Howolka alone, is responsible for Alec Howolka's death. No one else. End of discussion.
So bullying someone into suicide is the best we can do and we shouldn't try do better ourselves or have any kind of retrospective self criticism.

Gotta.

End of discussion indeed.

ShutUp

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41103 on: August 31, 2019, 07:57:37 PM »
Nepenthe doesn't give a fuck about the movie, yet won't exit stage left in the discussion about it. Just...don't see the movie. Problem solved!

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VomKriege

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41105 on: August 31, 2019, 07:59:32 PM »
I admit, because of LEGO Batman and Marvel/DC Comic movies being what they are I can see why people think the Bat-verse is aimed at kids.

It has been quite a ride to turn all heroes into sanitized 'family entertainment' since The Dark Knight.

 :idont
Batman has managed conclusively producing concurrent family friendly and more adult pieces. Yes there was some confusion back with both Burton films when the live action precedent people were familiar with was the TV series and because of the mismatch of expectations between the films themselves and the production pushing merch and toys tie-ins to kids. But ever since the Nolan reboot I don't think there's any ambiguity with the tone and all the live-action films Jokers since Nicholson have been pretty dark. On top of that Joker is rated R and very clearly marketed as a "serious" "drama" "adult" one-shot starring a "serious" "drama" "adult" actor.

I'm sure there will be some parents oblivious to this because there's always one but I think it's pretty ridiculous to imagine the public at large will be confused.
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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41106 on: August 31, 2019, 08:01:08 PM »
"We can't count on the court of law to say this man was guilty of what he was accused of, so instead social media mobs drive him to suicide. Mission accomplished, folks."

How very 8chan of ERA.  :holeup

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41107 on: August 31, 2019, 08:01:19 PM »
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The thing is, the only way that "People should be allowed to express their discomfort or dislike about the subject matter of an oppressed white man in this day and age where the concept of white oppression is getting minorities killed" gets misconstrued as "herpderp you think films brainwash people into mass shooters derp" is when people are directly trying to fuck with you, not out of any genuine misinterpretation. It doesn't help that this is about a comic book character from a treasured backlog that has been grossly mishandled for years. Emotions are high just because of that and- with the reviews being positive- people are looking for reasons to tear down anyone with the slightest critical lens. If this wasn't about the Joker these takes from more minority-centric lenses probably wouldn't register on anyone's radar.

How the fuck do you take a movie about the joker and make it about the experience of black women?  Nepenthe is worse than Excel

:ego

https://www.resetera.com/threads/joker-review-thread.138366/post-24101103
sigh

benjipwns

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41108 on: August 31, 2019, 08:04:01 PM »
Nepenthe doesn't give a fuck about the movie, yet won't exit stage left in the discussion about it. Just...don't see the movie. Problem solved!
how will that stop movies she doesn't want to see from coming out? or stop people from talking about them?

Cauliflower Of Love

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41109 on: August 31, 2019, 08:04:47 PM »
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The thing is, the only way that "People should be allowed to express their discomfort or dislike about the subject matter of an oppressed white man in this day and age where the concept of white oppression is getting minorities killed" gets misconstrued as "herpderp you think films brainwash people into mass shooters derp" is when people are directly trying to fuck with you, not out of any genuine misinterpretation. It doesn't help that this is about a comic book character from a treasured backlog that has been grossly mishandled for years. Emotions are high just because of that and- with the reviews being positive- people are looking for reasons to tear down anyone with the slightest critical lens. If this wasn't about the Joker these takes from more minority-centric lenses probably wouldn't register on anyone's radar.

How the fuck do you take a movie about the joker and make it about the experience of black women?  Nepenthe is worse than Excel

:ego

https://www.resetera.com/threads/joker-review-thread.138366/post-24101103

It's almost like all the mods have/had a seemingly "regular" user that's a  mirror of themselves

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Cauliflower Of Love

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41110 on: August 31, 2019, 08:05:32 PM »

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The thing is, the only way that "People should be allowed to express their discomfort or dislike about the subject matter of an oppressed white man in this day and age where the concept of white oppression is getting minorities killed" gets misconstrued as "herpderp you think films brainwash people into mass shooters derp" is when people are directly trying to fuck with you, not out of any genuine misinterpretation. It doesn't help that this is about a comic book character from a treasured backlog that has been grossly mishandled for years. Emotions are high just because of that and- with the reviews being positive- people are looking for reasons to tear down anyone with the slightest critical lens. If this wasn't about the Joker these takes from more minority-centric lenses probably wouldn't register on anyone's radar.

How the fuck do you take a movie about the joker and make it about the experience of black women?  Nepenthe is worse than Excel

:ego

https://www.resetera.com/threads/joker-review-thread.138366/post-24101103

It's almost like all the mods have/had a seemingly "regular" user that's a  mirror of themselves

:curious

benjipwns

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41111 on: August 31, 2019, 08:05:41 PM »

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41112 on: August 31, 2019, 08:06:03 PM »
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The thing is, the only way that "People should be allowed to express their discomfort or dislike about the subject matter of an oppressed white man in this day and age where the concept of white oppression is getting minorities killed" gets misconstrued as "herpderp you think films brainwash people into mass shooters derp" is when people are directly trying to fuck with you, not out of any genuine misinterpretation. It doesn't help that this is about a comic book character from a treasured backlog that has been grossly mishandled for years. Emotions are high just because of that and- with the reviews being positive- people are looking for reasons to tear down anyone with the slightest critical lens. If this wasn't about the Joker these takes from more minority-centric lenses probably wouldn't register on anyone's radar.

How the fuck do you take a movie about the joker and make it about the experience of black women?  Nepenthe is worse than Excel

:ego

https://www.resetera.com/threads/joker-review-thread.138366/post-24101103

Well, the latest trailer shows Phoenix on a bus making goofy faces at a black kid looking at him and the kid laughs. The kids mom turns around and tells him to leave the kid alone or whatever. Nepenthe no doubt went into a fit of rage over that little snippet in the trailer.

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41113 on: August 31, 2019, 08:20:50 PM »
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This shit bums me out too and disgusts me. His death (And I'm assuming suicide) reeks of a manipulative behavior that I can't quite put into words right now. Alec has permanently altered the course of the #MeToo resurgence happening in games media and caused even more irreparable harm and damage to victims.

It fucking sucks man.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/alec-holowka-night-in-the-woods-towerfall-accused-of-sexual-assault-update-alec-holowka-has-reportedly-passed-away-see-staff-posts-threadmarks.137449/post-24099341

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Jenkem

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41114 on: August 31, 2019, 08:22:23 PM »
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Again, it's not the film itself that most upsets me. It's people's insinuations that anyone who has any sort of issue with its themes in this day and age is acting like Jack Thompson and insisting we want to censor anything or are stupid enough to think the film will directly brainwash someone into committing a mass shooting. Why does it upset anyone that, say, a black woman like me really doesn't give a fuck about this kind of film (beyond Joaquin) in the reality I live in?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/joker-review-thread.138366/post-24100001

Again, it's not the film itself that most upsets me. It's people's insinuations that anyone who has any sort of issue with it is acting like Elliot Rodgers and insisting we want only men in roles, or are stupid enough to think the film will directly brainwash someone into hating men. Why does it upset anyone that someone like me really doesn't give a fuck about the Ghostbusters reboot in the reality I live in?

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41115 on: August 31, 2019, 08:26:37 PM »
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The thing is, the only way that "People should be allowed to express their discomfort or dislike about the subject matter of an oppressed white man in this day and age where the concept of white oppression is getting minorities killed" gets misconstrued as "herpderp you think films brainwash people into mass shooters derp" is when people are directly trying to fuck with you, not out of any genuine misinterpretation. It doesn't help that this is about a comic book character from a treasured backlog that has been grossly mishandled for years. Emotions are high just because of that and- with the reviews being positive- people are looking for reasons to tear down anyone with the slightest critical lens. If this wasn't about the Joker these takes from more minority-centric lenses probably wouldn't register on anyone's radar.

How the fuck do you take a movie about the joker and make it about the experience of black women?  Nepenthe is worse than Excel

:ego

https://www.resetera.com/threads/joker-review-thread.138366/post-24101103

Pretty sure nepenthe is a sonic fan, so of course she’s a fucking autist.

benjipwns

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41116 on: August 31, 2019, 08:28:33 PM »
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This shit bums me out too and disgusts me. His death (And I'm assuming suicide) reeks of a manipulative behavior that I can't quite put into words right now. Alec has permanently altered the course of the #MeToo resurgence happening in games media and caused even more irreparable harm and damage to victims.

It fucking sucks man.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/alec-holowka-night-in-the-woods-towerfall-accused-of-sexual-assault-update-alec-holowka-has-reportedly-passed-away-see-staff-posts-threadmarks.137449/post-24099341
for a forum that regularly tries to play the "dehumanizating" card...

Jenkem

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41117 on: August 31, 2019, 08:31:34 PM »
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This shit bums me out too and disgusts me. His death (And I'm assuming suicide) reeks of a manipulative behavior that I can't quite put into words right now. Alec has permanently altered the course of the #MeToo resurgence happening in games media and caused even more irreparable harm and damage to victims.

It fucking sucks man.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/alec-holowka-night-in-the-woods-towerfall-accused-of-sexual-assault-update-alec-holowka-has-reportedly-passed-away-see-staff-posts-threadmarks.137449/post-24099341
for a forum that regularly tries to play the "dehumanizating" card...

 :nope this random guy was alleged to do something bad so we rightly dehumanized him until he killed himself

 :ohyeah a random stranger looked at me funny he must be deeply racist. I was dehumanized.

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41118 on: August 31, 2019, 08:38:35 PM »
Resetera just had a thread where someone that suddenly lost their job contemplated suicide because they didn't think they were worth anything beyond it. So many chimed in to say "I've been there. I know how this feels."

This guy lost everything too. Unlike Zoe Quinn, I've never heard this dude's name and his only claim to fame is in the indie scene for a couple games that are either niche or shitty depending on who you talk to. And his colleagues, some of the only people who are in a position to judge both his work and his character, damned him when pressed for comment. All in public, a performance for strangers.

I'm not going to weigh in on whether metoo is "worth this price" or whatever the fuck. That is an ongoing conversation that we're going to keep happening in this social climate. But I do think that we are miles past the feigned surprise, the "I can't believe it", the "how could it come to this". We know how this happens and we know why it's going to happen again. Because losing your friends, the destruction of your career, the embarassment on the national stage, each of these things on their own would be viewed as valid enough reason were it one of their own. But he's not one of their own. They read his first and last name in a fuckin Polygon article or wherever, and suddenly he stops seeming so vulnerable, suddenly he's a PUBLIC FIGURE, all big and bad and with all the protection of the establishment behind him.

I get the feeling that the particular dissonance they suffer from is that they are so used to the structural injustice, so used to the worst of men hanging on like cockroaches that they assume that all of them can weather the same punishment. What they want is the ongoing drama, the headline in six months, "Doug Tenaple, Ed Boon, Alex Holowka all team up to form indie studio AXIS OF EVIL LTD" so they can grrr and rage and seethe that another one gave them the slip and theyve never bought their games but they double wont now! And it fails to acknowledge that the most vulnerable among us simply can't weather those burdens the way they so badly want them to. That getting cancelled, simultaneously cutting off financial and emotional support systems from these people (or at least making it a very bad idea to engage with them) causes real harm.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2019, 08:42:37 PM by Coffee Dog »

Cauliflower Of Love

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41119 on: August 31, 2019, 08:41:33 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/holy-fuck-reseteras-logo-is-an-arrow.138201/page-4


People thinking the logo was masterfully crafted.

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Lol

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41120 on: August 31, 2019, 08:50:21 PM »
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This shit bums me out too and disgusts me. His death (And I'm assuming suicide) reeks of a manipulative behavior that I can't quite put into words right now. Alec has permanently altered the course of the #MeToo resurgence happening in games media and caused even more irreparable harm and damage to victims.

It fucking sucks man.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/alec-holowka-night-in-the-woods-towerfall-accused-of-sexual-assault-update-alec-holowka-has-reportedly-passed-away-see-staff-posts-threadmarks.137449/post-24099341

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He should have been forced to live out the rest of his miserable life being rejected by everyone, living in the streets, and eating out of a dumpster like the disgusting pile of human waste that he is! Instead he took the easy way out and we won't get to enjoy his suffering!!
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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41121 on: August 31, 2019, 08:53:07 PM »
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This shit bums me out too and disgusts me. His death (And I'm assuming suicide) reeks of a manipulative behavior that I can't quite put into words right now. Alec has permanently altered the course of the #MeToo resurgence happening in games media and caused even more irreparable harm and damage to victims.

It fucking sucks man.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/alec-holowka-night-in-the-woods-towerfall-accused-of-sexual-assault-update-alec-holowka-has-reportedly-passed-away-see-staff-posts-threadmarks.137449/post-24099341

"Fuck this guy for killing himself"

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not that I ever advocate for banning people in general but saying that someone's suicide is manipulative should not be tolerated. Disgusting.
Not if you see reality as a Death Note episode.
Literally 4D chess.

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41122 on: August 31, 2019, 08:56:37 PM »
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This shit bums me out too and disgusts me. His death (And I'm assuming suicide) reeks of a manipulative behavior that I can't quite put into words right now. Alec has permanently altered the course of the #MeToo resurgence happening in games media and caused even more irreparable harm and damage to victims.

It fucking sucks man.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/alec-holowka-night-in-the-woods-towerfall-accused-of-sexual-assault-update-alec-holowka-has-reportedly-passed-away-see-staff-posts-threadmarks.137449/post-24099341

"Fuck this guy for killing himself"

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not that I ever advocate for banning people in general but saying that someone's suicide is manipulative should not be tolerated. Disgusting.
Not if you see reality as a Death Note episode.
Literally 4D chess.

RE's sense of absolutist justice and lack of scruples about the treatment of enemies wouldn't be too out of place for Light tbh...

benjipwns

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41123 on: August 31, 2019, 08:57:43 PM »
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This shit bums me out too and disgusts me. His death (And I'm assuming suicide) reeks of a manipulative behavior that I can't quite put into words right now. Alec has permanently altered the course of the #MeToo resurgence happening in games media and caused even more irreparable harm and damage to victims.

It fucking sucks man.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/alec-holowka-night-in-the-woods-towerfall-accused-of-sexual-assault-update-alec-holowka-has-reportedly-passed-away-see-staff-posts-threadmarks.137449/post-24099341

"Fuck this guy for killing himself"

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He should have been forced to live out the rest of his miserable life being rejected by everyone, living in the streets, and eating out of a dumpster like the disgusting pile of human waste that he is! Instead he took the easy way out and we won't get to enjoy his suffering!!
Worse, he's getting away with not having to live in the literal hellworld that GamerGate brought us by burning down the Amazon.

daemon

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41124 on: August 31, 2019, 08:58:35 PM »
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This shit bums me out too and disgusts me. His death (And I'm assuming suicide) reeks of a manipulative behavior that I can't quite put into words right now. Alec has permanently altered the course of the #MeToo resurgence happening in games media and caused even more irreparable harm and damage to victims.

It fucking sucks man.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/alec-holowka-night-in-the-woods-towerfall-accused-of-sexual-assault-update-alec-holowka-has-reportedly-passed-away-see-staff-posts-threadmarks.137449/post-24099341

"Fuck this guy for killing himself"

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not that I ever advocate for banning people in general but saying that someone's suicide is manipulative should not be tolerated. Disgusting.
Not if you see reality as a Death Note episode.
Literally 4D chess.



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*translator note: keikaku means history of infractions and inflammatory behavior

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41125 on: August 31, 2019, 09:00:07 PM »
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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41126 on: August 31, 2019, 09:02:31 PM »

benjipwns

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41127 on: August 31, 2019, 09:02:49 PM »
not that I ever advocate for banning people in general but saying that someone's suicide is manipulative should not be tolerated. Disgusting.
wtf, now you're trying to use his suicide to manipulate the moderators into harming the movement? :wag

benjipwns

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41128 on: August 31, 2019, 09:09:12 PM »
it's gross how shosta would try to exploit this, and during the very time that the UNELECTED Boris Johnson was suspending Parliament too

kingv

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41129 on: August 31, 2019, 09:13:28 PM »
Imagine being a fan of Zoe Quinn from before famergste... like for what?

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41130 on: August 31, 2019, 09:14:02 PM »
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The thing is, the only way that "People should be allowed to express their discomfort or dislike about the subject matter of an oppressed white man in this day and age where the concept of white oppression is getting minorities killed" gets misconstrued as "herpderp you think films brainwash people into mass shooters derp" is when people are directly trying to fuck with you, not out of any genuine misinterpretation. It doesn't help that this is about a comic book character from a treasured backlog that has been grossly mishandled for years. Emotions are high just because of that and- with the reviews being positive- people are looking for reasons to tear down anyone with the slightest critical lens. If this wasn't about the Joker these takes from more minority-centric lenses probably wouldn't register on anyone's radar.

How the fuck do you take a movie about the joker and make it about the experience of black women?  Nepenthe is worse than Excel

:ego

https://www.resetera.com/threads/joker-review-thread.138366/post-24101103

DC didn't even give Joker the chance to be a proud, trans WoC. smdh
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benjipwns

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41131 on: August 31, 2019, 09:15:54 PM »
Imagine being a fan of Zoe Quinn from before famergste... like for what?
her porn?

Mr Gilhaney

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41132 on: August 31, 2019, 09:20:44 PM »
wait she did porn? link me brehs, i got that permanent morbid curiosity.

Cauliflower Of Love

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41133 on: August 31, 2019, 09:26:44 PM »
The fuck at some of this page.

Jesus

benjipwns

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41134 on: August 31, 2019, 09:29:35 PM »
It was for some kind of Suicide Girls type knock off site. And there was a big online fight with the photographer who called her hell to work with and how they weren't paid except offered free pizza or something like that. ED probably has it on the page about her.

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41135 on: August 31, 2019, 09:38:29 PM »
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This shit bums me out too and disgusts me. His death (And I'm assuming suicide) reeks of a manipulative behavior that I can't quite put into words right now. Alec has permanently altered the course of the #MeToo resurgence happening in games media and caused even more irreparable harm and damage to victims.

It fucking sucks man.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/alec-holowka-night-in-the-woods-towerfall-accused-of-sexual-assault-update-alec-holowka-has-reportedly-passed-away-see-staff-posts-threadmarks.137449/post-24099341

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not that I ever advocate for banning people in general but saying that someone's suicide is manipulative should not be tolerated. Disgusting.

I'm not especially proud to think it but suicide threats can definitely include, among other things, some manipulation. And it's not mutually exclusive with that person ultimately going all the way, either by accident so to speak or intently. I wouldn't discard misguided spite or revenge as a possible motive too even if it is never the only or real reason. Which doesn't make any suicide less tragic, mind. I would never assume that about strangers either. But as I said at the time I felt the sudden heel turn and compassionate backlash about Etika a bit forced. I don't think it was that much beyond the pale to be perhaps jaded considering past accidents. "He was obviously in mental anguish", well yeah and so are other public figures or many unknown people you may pass by at any given day in a city. I don't hate on the sentiment that the world is too cold and uncaring but pending, it is.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2019, 09:43:24 PM by VomKriege »
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Jenkem

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41136 on: August 31, 2019, 09:43:05 PM »
It's about ethics in making sure game developers don't kill themselves

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« Reply #41137 on: August 31, 2019, 09:47:09 PM »
Honestly, I don't know why we should act surprised at Reee's action. These are the same people that cheered that porn star August Ames' harassment until she killed herself over it. These are the same people who could barely contain the glee at the news of Totalbiscuit's death.

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41138 on: August 31, 2019, 09:48:55 PM »
wtf, now you're trying to use his suicide to manipulate the moderators into harming the movement? :wag
this is shosta's parents. We regret to inform the bore dot com that shosta was found dead hanging in his closet five minutes ago. We would like some privacy at this sensitive time.

and yet he'll still find time to post, just like every other time

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41139 on: August 31, 2019, 09:50:13 PM »
Its truly tragic that the shame of making one of the most overrated games of all time did Alec in.  :doge
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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41140 on: August 31, 2019, 09:50:47 PM »
wtf, now you're trying to use his suicide to manipulate the moderators into harming the movement? :wag
this is shosta's parents. We regret to inform the bore dot com that shosta was found dead hanging in his closet five minutes ago. We would like some privacy at this sensitive time.
your son was a shonda and it was worth it to get stost sr. posting here  ;)
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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41141 on: August 31, 2019, 09:53:09 PM »
 :(

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41142 on: August 31, 2019, 10:02:17 PM »
...and...

 :rimshot

...permanently locked.

In between the trolls with low post counts, and posts that unfortunately disregarded the discussion guidelines, there has been an important discussion happening in this thread about how abuse is handled in the gaming industry.

However, the intersection between tragedies here has been exacerbating the dialogue and this thread no longer appears to be a productive place to have that discussion.
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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41143 on: August 31, 2019, 10:07:59 PM »
wow, is that the first time that "trolls with low post counts" is official mod canon? so much for "post count shaming" I guess

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41144 on: August 31, 2019, 10:10:55 PM »
wow, is that the first time that "trolls with low post counts" is official mod canon? so much for "post count shaming" I guess

Always the little guys that get shafted. What about the trolls with high post counts ?

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41145 on: August 31, 2019, 10:11:20 PM »

they edited this out
EDIT: Stop misquoting this post to fucking gloat. I never once wished such a tragedy to occur. It’s a sad ending that I neither foresaw nor wanted.

This is a tragedy, and my heart goes out to everyone involved.

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41146 on: August 31, 2019, 10:11:40 PM »
When does ResetEra take another crack at Tim Soret? Maybe they can get him to Alec himself this time. :success

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« Reply #41147 on: August 31, 2019, 10:15:03 PM »
Quote from: NoName999
I have mental illness. You don't see me being emotionally abusive to my significant other. stupel, you mean to tell me that your mental illness made you have hate filled twitter posts? lvl 99 Pixel, just answer my question. It should be clear that I wouldn't be upset if you said you wouldn't care if I died if I treated you like garbage.

But hey guys, thanks for not even following your own call for fucking sensitivity. Thanks for implying that I'm a heartless monster too. Way to live up to the call for understanding.

THANKS FOR FUCKING NOTHING!

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Stop with the shitty appeals to emotion/slippery slope arguments already.

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https://www.resetera.com/threads/alec-holowka-night-in-the-woods-towerfall-accused-of-sexual-assault-update-alec-holowka-has-reportedly-passed-away-see-staff-posts-threadmarks.137449/post-24104590
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« Reply #41148 on: August 31, 2019, 10:19:07 PM »
Quote from: NoName999
I have mental illness. You don't see me being emotionally abusive to my significant other. stupel, you mean to tell me that your mental illness made you have hate filled twitter posts? lvl 99 Pixel, just answer my question. It should be clear that I wouldn't be upset if you said you wouldn't care if I died if I treated you like garbage.

But hey guys, thanks for not even following your own call for fucking sensitivity. Thanks for implying that I'm a heartless monster too. Way to live up to the call for understanding.

THANKS FOR FUCKING NOTHING!

Quote from: lvl 99 Pixel
Stop with the shitty appeals to emotion/slippery slope arguments already.

:dead

https://www.resetera.com/threads/alec-holowka-night-in-the-woods-towerfall-accused-of-sexual-assault-update-alec-holowka-has-reportedly-passed-away-see-staff-posts-threadmarks.137449/post-24104590

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41149 on: August 31, 2019, 10:19:25 PM »

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« Reply #41150 on: August 31, 2019, 10:44:32 PM »
Zoe Quinn deleted her twitter account.
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« Reply #41151 on: August 31, 2019, 10:44:59 PM »
looks like the post mazi edited was similar:

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41153 on: August 31, 2019, 11:05:29 PM »
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« Reply #41154 on: August 31, 2019, 11:05:37 PM »
Do you need business class tickets for the diversity lounge?

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« Reply #41155 on: August 31, 2019, 11:06:15 PM »
wait, didn't the superdeep borehole used to be the diversity lounge?

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« Reply #41156 on: August 31, 2019, 11:07:59 PM »
It did but that was before the alt-right started weaponizing suicide.
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« Reply #41157 on: August 31, 2019, 11:09:09 PM »
https://medium.com/@TheRealAKhaled/alec-holowka-zoe-quinn-night-in-the-woods-gamergate-thequartering-57f62464bd18

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Alec Holowka Died, Gamergate Readying to Exploit the Tragedy
The playbook of 2014-era Gamergate is being pulled out again.

Tragedy-grifting has become Gamergate’s main currency of choice. After dozens of women and non-binary people came out in stern opposition against sexual abuse, inadequate pay, and workplace discrimination — a predominant staple in the gaming industry — now a new event is likely to shift the tides in their favor back again, after game composer Alec Holowka — one of many who the accusations centered around — was pronounced dead via suicide this Saturday morning.

It didn’t take long for Gamergate to take this into the streets, protesting it as a failure of cancel culture. Jeremy “TheQuartering” Hambly already milked the tragedy for views by painting a target on Zoe Quinn and other victims’ backs less than an hour after the news broke. In their view, because the accusations were unsubstantiated, this gave no right to Quinn to accuse him of sexual abuse, holding them captive in his apartment, and blacklisting them from getting further gigs in the industry. But therein lies the problem already — Holowka’s sister when announcing the death of her brother, confirmed the allegations were true. So making the opposite claim would be the harshest disrespect to her family in a time where his death should be a learning moment for all, to duly consider supporting mental health organizations across the globe, not exploit the tragedy for further harassment against his victims.
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What ended up taking Alec Holowka’s life, wasn’t Zoe Quinn coming forth with their story. It was the notion men keep being instructed from a very young age, that women’s sole raison d’ętre is to be their own therapist, to put up with colossal amounts of emotional labor for which they are not compensated, but rather ridiculed. Phrasing it any other way not only strips Alec of responsibility regarding his accusations, but falsely assigns blame to people — among whom is Quinn — who out of concern for his own health and safety, chose not to disclose his identity when they alluded to him in the initial round of accusations when Gamergate took off five years ago.

Unfortunately, Gamergate will likely take this as a win for their movement, with the irony of Zoe Quinn having contemplated suicide when Holowka subjected their to undue emotional and physical torture completely skipping over their head. But that’s to be expected from a movement for which falsehood is not a warping of reality to avoid, but the very source of their fraudulent crusade after gaming journalism and the gaming industry.
ResetERA.com users, feel free to make threads about this article to get around the "low quality discussion" loophole like in the John Carmack/Joe Rogan case!

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« Reply #41158 on: August 31, 2019, 11:11:51 PM »
It did but that was before the alt-right started weaponizing suicide.
it really makes you think about how much of The Bire has been weaponized by the alt-right: splinter forums, likes, rampant homosexuality, quality YUM! Brands products, etc.

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41159 on: August 31, 2019, 11:12:24 PM »
wait, didn't the superdeep borehole used to be the diversity lounge?

Anita stealing from The Bore just like she did those gameplay videos for her tropes series.
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