Final Fantasy VII Remake |OT| The Unknown Journey Will Continue

[Himu]

Playing as Aerith still looks fun as fuck and FFXII-esque. This was the video made me actually interested in the combat.

[demi]

The music is so good.

[Himu]

Yeah, I know. Doesnt change that fighting from a distance looks fun

I'm not making a direct comparison to XII just saying visually, sitting back away from the action managing the battle from afar gives those vibes and is something I'm looking forward to even if it's not the meat.

[recursivelyenumerable]

I'm kinda expecting XVI to be the next XII

[Himu]

I'm kinda expecting XVI to be the next XII

God I hope so.

What makes you say that?

It reminds me of FFXII in the sense that it's so obviously in pre-production in the way that XII was: while everyone else is doing their own thing. They put Matsuno on XII like in 2001, I believe before the release of X even. Game wasn't revealed until 2003/2004. Meanwhile, there was X/XI/X-2/Tactics Advance/Crystal Chronicles in between the release of XII.

So they probably have it in pre right now while XIV and VIIr team does their thing.

Only commonality I find.

[mormapope]

FFXIV has been Square Enix's best fruit this entire gen, the biggest Western games this gen are open world or mimic MMO'S. MMO styled gameplay is in demand for single player games.

I expect XVI's development structure will mimic FFXII's. One team works on story, characters/character design, scenarios, the other team (XIV's) works on gameplay and scenarios as well.

[recursivelyenumerable]

The rumors that it's being developed by a team spun off of the FFXIV group, which is where most of the XII people went. I wouldn't even be surprised if Matsuno himself were involved (as a scenario writer or concept designer, not a production director), he's already been working with the XIV team lately

[Himu]

I wouldn't be shocked if they had Yoshida take the reins. The guy turned FFXIV from a joke of a game that begged its players to play for free to becoming this game XIV fans beg single player FF people to play because apparently it's so good. What a turn around. At the time of XIV's initial failure there were murmerings of Square Enix maybe going bankrupt.

Scuttlebutt tells me Yoshida apparently gets FF but I've struggled to get past ARR base content to be able to see it.

If they can manage to get him off project (doubtful as he's a key figure and may be locked into XIV) then they might have a really successful New entry that isn't a remake or an online game that people actually like to play.

Since all single player FF's since XII have had a rocky development process maybe it can finally break the curse. Maybe not.

[Himu]

The rumors that it's being developed by a team spun off of the FFXIV group, which is where most of the XII people went. I wouldn't even be surprised if Matsuno himself were involved (as a scenario writer or concept designer, not a production director), he's already been working with the XIV team lately

Yeah, I've heard rumors that XIV team may be "gifted" the mantle of the next FF for saving Final Fantasy's reputation single handedly after the trash fire that XIII/XIII-2/LR/XIV OG. It would be well deserved. Problem is, they've got an mmo to keep going and those are time demanding. Another thing to consider is that SE always wants an MMO running to keep the engines well greased. So when the XIV team will have time to develop a single player on top of their wildly successful MMO has yet to be seen.

Yoshida will likely replaced with a successor and he'll take charge of a new single player team forced with key XIV staff.

edit: Another benefit of XIV team making XVI: AMANO DESIGNS

One thing I love about XIV is that it takes the visual aesthetic of Amano and applies it to 3d. For the first time, Amano's art can be treated with justice in Final Fantasy with their full splendor.

My hope is Amano will come back and design although I don't expect it. Akihiko Yoshida's 14 designs are so Amano-esque I wouldn't mind if he's the designer. Yoshida <3 Hell, the new Dream Team is Gooch/Amano/Uematsu all on one project together again. Uematsu has not made music for a single player FF since his contribution to X's soundtrack so it'd be nice for him to return.

All the potential is there for XVI to be a massive rebound for FF. It legitimately excites me.

[Himu]

Recursive do you remember this day? What an amazing day. God I'm so spoiled

https://www.ign.com/articles/2000/02/01/square-millennium-event-final-fantasy-ix-x-and-xi-revealed

It would be great if SE did something similar for the next generation of FF: reveal FFVII Remake pt2, FFXVI, and something else (not sure) all in one day. Would give heavy y2k vibes. 

[Tasty]

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Final Fantasy VII Remake Rebuild

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[Positive Touch]

Recursive do you remember this day? What an amazing day. God I'm so spoiled

https://www.ign.com/articles/2000/02/01/square-millennium-event-final-fantasy-ix-x-and-xi-revealed

It would be great if SE did something similar for the next generation of FF: reveal FFVII Remake pt2, FFXVI, and something else (not sure) all in one day. Would give heavy y2k vibes. 

hey now, you're forgetting about that other event they had where they announced a bunch of FF titles all at once...

[Himu]

Recursive do you remember this day? What an amazing day. God I'm so spoiled

https://www.ign.com/articles/2000/02/01/square-millennium-event-final-fantasy-ix-x-and-xi-revealed

It would be great if SE did something similar for the next generation of FF: reveal FFVII Remake pt2, FFXVI, and something else (not sure) all in one day. Would give heavy y2k vibes. 

hey now, you're forgetting about that other event they had where they announced a bunch of FF titles all at once...

Breh I just remembered Matsuno had a recent interview where he said he should make a new FFT before he dies.

Imagine if it were the third game on top of FFXVI and VII pt2.

[Positive Touch]

imagining a political narrative like Tactics in today's gaming landscape holy fuck i would bust one through the fucking ceiling

[Himu]

imagining a political narrative like Tactics in today's gaming landscape holy fuck i would bust one through the fucking ceiling

*Cries happy tears"

Yaaas

Eat the Rich: The Strategy Game

[Great Rumbler]

The part with Cloud and Aerith walking across the rooftops was so freakin' good.

[Himu]

The part with Cloud and Aerith walking across the rooftops was so freakin' good.

One of my favorite parts in the original.

So glad you're enjoying it. Aerith is so wholesome and bae

[Great Rumbler]

Was a little unsure of how her character was going to be handled after the short scene at the tail-end of bombing run, but that part proves how super-good she is in this.

[Himu]

I'm starting to get excited for this by everyone's impressions.

[Great Rumbler]

It does a lot of things right, or at least things that I tend to like. Could nitpick a few things here and there, but the overall experience is pretty great as far as I'm concerned. And if nothing else, some of the environments are absolutely spectacular.

[Himu]

Was a little unsure of how her character was going to be handled after the short scene at the tail-end of bombing run, but that part proves how super-good she is in this.

I love the image in the youtube preview (haven't clicked, no spoilers).

It reminds me of when I got FFVII and was obsessed with the character renders in the manual.

Those FMV renders are drilled into my head. Sweet Jesus I'm starting to get nostalgic.







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They even remade the key art





feels empty without Highwind

[Himu]

It does a lot of things right, or at least things that I tend to like. Could nitpick a few things here and there, but the overall experience is pretty great as far as I'm concerned. And if nothing else, some of the environments are absolutely spectacular.

I've never seen so many people discussing FF since the original FFVII. It makes me happy the series is relevant again

[Joe Molotov]

Ending of Chapter 7

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The Air Buster fight was so badass, I almost air busted a nut.

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[Himu]

Happy for everyone here liking it! Haven't seen this positivity towards single player FF in over a decade. <3

[bluemax]

Took me about 20 minutes of trying but I got the top score in darts. Whew.

[bluemax]

The rumors that it's being developed by a team spun off of the FFXIV group, which is where most of the XII people went. I wouldn't even be surprised if Matsuno himself were involved (as a scenario writer or concept designer, not a production director), he's already been working with the XIV team lately

Apparently Matsuno is a HUGE FFXIV player.

[Himu]

The rumors that it's being developed by a team spun off of the FFXIV group, which is where most of the XII people went. I wouldn't even be surprised if Matsuno himself were involved (as a scenario writer or concept designer, not a production director), he's already been working with the XIV team lately

Apparently Matsuno is a HUGE FFXIV player.

Well, XII was inspired by XI. Not a shock.

[HardcoreRetro]

Can't wait for you guys to get to Wall Market.

[Bebpo]

This game is good.

I feel like the dialogue/script is 1,000x better than the original. It's really well written if you're ok with the goofy PG-13 star wars kind of tone FF has.

The combat also seems great. Lots of fun and I'm already feeling like this might be the best arpg combat that still has some of that turn-based feel. I still haven't sat down and played through FFXV, but this definitely makes me want to do that even though I'm sure FFXV doesn't play as good. Nomura combat is good stuff whether it's TWEWY or KH or this.

This game feels like how FF13 should've played.

Only complaint is how linear the maps are, but iirc the original was like that in Midgar anyhow.

[recursivelyenumerable]

https://twitter.com/Isfet/status/1248622902955503616

[BlueTsunami]

Took me about 20 minutes of trying but I got the top score in darts. Whew.

I was a bit deflated when i didnt immediately get a prize then Wedge did the right thing 😌

[Svejk]

I just got to Wall Market, but it was 4:30am, so needed to stop there.  Can't wait to jump back in tonight!   Getting into a groove with the combat (In the demo, I used every resource and barely got past the scorpion boss... This time, crushed it).  This is great though.  Like Rumbler said, I could nit pick certain things, but overall... What they've pulled off is fantastic.  Dousing the floor with feels.

[BlueTsunami]

It seems like enemies will kick you in the teeth if youre not gunning for their weaknesses. This def aint press X (now Square) to win

[BlueTsunami]

Its the guarding that I still have to come to grips with. I keep wanting to go all out offensive and end up being put on my ass.

[bluemax]

Took me about 20 minutes of trying but I got the top score in darts. Whew.

I was a bit deflated when i didnt immediately get a prize then Wedge did the right thing 😌

I still haven't gotten a prize... I wonder if I missed getting it? I talked to everyone after they came up from the meeting.

[BlueTsunami]

Took me about 20 minutes of trying but I got the top score in darts. Whew.

I was a bit deflated when i didnt immediately get a prize then Wedge did the right thing 😌

I still haven't gotten a prize... I wonder if I missed getting it? I talked to everyone after they came up from the meeting.

All I did was won during the meeting and when I went to finally leave the bar wedge handed me the prize

[Himu]

Yeah, I stand by my complaints still but this game rules. I'll always be a pissy baby about them splitting this shit up but man them actually getting all the characterization of the main party right for the first time since 1997 brings a tear to my eye. Cloud is a massive dork asshole, Aerith is the teasing and spunky gal who sees through his dumb shit, Tifa is and Barrett being Mr. T and Macho Man wrapped into one

At chapter 8. Taking a break for now but so far I'm having a blast with this.

Cloud is still a dork?! Omg

[BlueTsunami]

Yeah, I stand by my complaints still but this game rules. I'll always be a pissy baby about them splitting this shit up but man them actually getting all the characterization of the main party right for the first time since 1997 brings a tear to my eye. Cloud is a massive dork asshole, Aerith is the teasing and spunky gal who sees through his dumb shit, Tifa is and Barrett being Mr. T and Macho Man wrapped into one

At chapter 8. Taking a break for now but so far I'm having a blast with this.

Cloud is still a dork?! Omg

Whats really tickling my pickle is Barrets cringe humor and goofiness. The trailers make it seem like hes all about the business but nope the banter from him is amazing.

[bluemax]

Took me about 20 minutes of trying but I got the top score in darts. Whew.

I was a bit deflated when i didnt immediately get a prize then Wedge did the right thing 😌

I still haven't gotten a prize... I wonder if I missed getting it? I talked to everyone after they came up from the meeting.

All I did was won during the meeting and when I went to finally leave the bar wedge handed me the prize

Well I just got it a bit later after returning to the bar, so I guess I am... not out of luck ;-)

[Himu]

I'm excited to get this now. I want to see how the battle system and materia system clicks so I can blow the whole thing up. Hard mode sounds great.

Is there hope for post-game support like adding hunts?

[El Babua]

Really digging the battle system. Pretty much the type of combat I wanted from XV.

[Trent Dole]

Man y'all are making me want to play this.

[demi]

No? I've assessed a billion enemies for some dumb side quest but can't say I read or went through any of it. Best way to play is fill up one characters ATB bars, use them, switch to another, rinse and repeat. Learning how to dodge and block helps a lot too. I'm not sure but I could swear Cloud has a parry? if so I pulled it off on accident many a time so far

You need to be in Punisher Mode but he can parry attacks with it. I was doing it the 1v1 against [REDACTED]

[demi]

I'm excited to get this now. I want to see how the battle system and materia system clicks so I can blow the whole thing up. Hard mode sounds great.

Is there hope for post-game support like adding hunts?

I wouldnt expect any post game DLC or anything personally, but there are "superbosses" and such along with hard mode.

[BlueTsunami]

Theres more charisma in Barret alone than all of XV for me. I actually find myself chuckling.

Also there better be alternate clothes

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Cowgirl Tifa

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[Himu]

Theres more charisma in Barret alone than all of XV for me. I actually find myself chuckling.

Also there better be alternate clothes

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Cowgirl Tifa

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Prompto owns though

I like the characters in XV. Did you see the anime where Prompto goes from fat kid to sociable skinny kid?

[BlueTsunami]

Theres more charisma in Barret alone than all of XV for me. I actually find myself chuckling.

Also there better be alternate clothes

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Cowgirl Tifa

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Prompto owns though

I like the characters in XV. Did you see the anime where Prompto goes from fat kid to sociable skinny kid?

I didnt! And I found Prompto mildly amusing but the team dynamic didnt really seem to elevate him i feel. Where as here you have dry ass Cloud being messed with by Barret and Jessie.

[demi]

Jessie's banana tits give me life

[Pissy F Benny]

I like what theyve done with Biggs, sort of a similar vibe to him as baltheir

[Great Rumbler]

SHINRA DID 9/11
WUTAI HAS NO WMDS
HEIDEGGER RESIGN

[Rahxephon91]

I like what theyve done with Biggs, sort of a similar vibe to him as baltheir

Well its the same english voice.

[BlueTsunami]

The fucking Air Buster fight with that music 

[demi]

Its kind of annoying maxing out these ability bars by requiring certain things to be done, hopefully there's some place I can grind that out easily.

[Raist]

I'm not sure but I could swear Cloud has a parry? if so I pulled it off on accident many a time so far

Block while in Punisher mode. Not strictly a parry though, you don't need to time it.

[BlueTsunami]

I'm not sure but I could swear Cloud has a parry? if so I pulled it off on accident many a time so far

Block while in Punisher mode. Not strictly a parry though, you don't need to time it.

Coming from Sekiro I kept trying to time it. Good to know its more forgiving

[Svejk]

While playing, it's hard not to get hyped picturing how they'll pull off shit in the later installment(s).  That being said, if Soyny gets timed exclusivety on the next installment on PS5, ... system seller for me right there.

[Coffee Dog]

Kingdom Hearts doesnt require you to kill time depleting a knock-me-on-my-ass gauge in order to go on the offensive   

[tiesto]

Are the enemies as much of damage sponges as they were in the demo?

[demi]

Only if you're dogshit and don't use weaknesses and stagger them

[Coffee Dog]

It's so free to Assess weaknesses that I wouldn't even say it's a matter of being dogshit or not. Every single person playing the game is going to 1. check the color and then 2. shoot the color of every enemy for the rest of the game afterwards.