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« Reply #420 on: July 23, 2020, 07:58:07 PM »
that explains it, geez, what a mistake

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« Reply #421 on: July 23, 2020, 08:04:46 PM »
then again i don't care about halo at all just gimme some sweet crossplats and/or rpgs* so i can sit on my lazy ass and play

*watered down for my controller inputs ofc :cody
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« Reply #422 on: July 23, 2020, 08:08:28 PM »
I thought infinite looked really nice in motion. 4k/60 w smoove cartoony enemies :rejoice

An open world with piles of generic crud to trudge through though  :doge
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« Reply #423 on: July 23, 2020, 08:09:23 PM »
is halo 4k 60fps?

It's 60fps. If it's 4k remains to be seen.

hope it is, would explain things

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« Reply #424 on: July 23, 2020, 08:09:27 PM »
I thought it was confirmed locked 60fps/4K, at least on the xsx?

oh right it's open world... hmm, that might do it for me. love me some basic bitch open world shit. :lawd
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« Reply #425 on: July 23, 2020, 08:10:19 PM »
pls name one open world fps that isn't trash

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« Reply #426 on: July 23, 2020, 08:20:00 PM »
pls name one open world fps that isn't trash
i play skyrim like a fps :trumps
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« Reply #427 on: July 23, 2020, 08:25:16 PM »
yah, same tbh. bow master 4 eva. to answer my own q, for traditional fps, i dig stuff like dishonoured, but to me that's not really open world. more like a contiguous series of well designed areas. stalker worked at the time, but haven't played the sequels. i didn't hate metro: exodus.

i really dislike the modern far cry games though, though far cry 2 had some great moments. i got a real far cry / rage feel from that demo  :-\

guess i liked borderlands too, but this isn't a shlooter.
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« Reply #428 on: July 23, 2020, 08:25:39 PM »
pls name one open world fps that isn't trash

get out of here, stalker

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« Reply #429 on: July 23, 2020, 08:33:31 PM »
stalker is more of a survival horror though. the open world given meaning due to the difficulty and dopamine rush of successfully traversing it.
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« Reply #430 on: July 23, 2020, 08:34:48 PM »

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« Reply #431 on: July 23, 2020, 08:35:29 PM »
open snore zzz

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« Reply #432 on: July 23, 2020, 08:39:45 PM »
reckon the grapple is a metroid style upgrade to the mjolnir armour?
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« Reply #433 on: July 23, 2020, 08:48:23 PM »
still - the blurb on their demo vid says: "Enjoy a first-look at Halo Infinite campaign gameplay, captured real-time and representative of the experience on Xbox Series X running at 60FPS and up to 4K resolution."
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« Reply #434 on: July 23, 2020, 08:54:56 PM »
likely just means the max it supports is 4k. even if it's dynamic res, it'll be upscaling to 4k if that's what your output is set to.
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« Reply #435 on: July 23, 2020, 09:04:48 PM »
stalker is more of a survival horror though. the open world given meaning due to the difficulty and dopamine rush of successfully traversing it.
Until you loot a few dead Stalkers, anyway. The only reason you ever run short on ammo in those games are the sheer number of enemies, not because resources are scarce.

But I get what you mean. They're tense exploration games which turn into a full-blown horror games whenever you're sent inside a facility.

likely just means the max it supports is 4k. even if it's dynamic res, it'll be upscaling to 4k if that's what your output is set to.
There's the lower powered and cheaper Lockhart version of the hardware as well, which I expect will target 1080p.
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« Reply #436 on: July 23, 2020, 09:12:44 PM »
likely just means the max it supports is 4k. even if it's dynamic res, it'll be upscaling to 4k if that's what your output is set to.

So, not native 4k.

yes.

Would be incredibly surprised if XSX doesn't support native 4k for this game though. X1X supported 4k/30 native for RDR2.
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« Reply #437 on: July 23, 2020, 09:12:44 PM »
Yeah I think they are saying “up to” 4K because the non XSX consoles will run it at lower res. I mean Infinite clearly isn’t a looker so there is nothing unbelievable about it being 4k native @ 60fps.

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« Reply #438 on: July 23, 2020, 09:21:20 PM »
Again, what the fuck does up to 4k mean?
It means in the 2nd half of the gen games will run at 1080p/1440p  with some being 4k30.

Edit-I guess the PS4 mostly has games run at 1080p. But I don’t expect every game to be 4K next gen.
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« Reply #439 on: July 23, 2020, 09:26:50 PM »
Devs are moving away from native 4K in general.

i really hope so.

i know generally pc gamers i know are buying into 1440p / 3440x1440 ultra wide monitors instead of 4k because 1080 -> 1440 is a significant upgrade whereas 1440 -> 2160 is barely discernible and is incredibly taxing on your card.
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« Reply #440 on: July 23, 2020, 09:34:48 PM »
Devs are moving away from native 4K in general.

i really hope so.

i know generally pc gamers i know are buying into 1440p / 3440x1440 ultra wide monitors instead of 4k because 1080 -> 1440 is a significant upgrade whereas 1440 -> 2160 is barely discernible and is incredibly taxing on your card.

Not even. Low budget folks are sub 720 right now.

https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam

Not a MASSIVE market, but 4K is a meme and will continue to be a meme for anyone but ultra-overclocking and downsampling memers.

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« Reply #441 on: July 23, 2020, 09:42:36 PM »
10% of steam users at 1366 x 768 still jeezus  :doge

I agree re: the 1440p vs 4k arguement. 1440 is crispy, 4k is the same but my  computer runs like shit.  1440p60fps would be what i would like the gen to shoot for but i bet we're gonna get a bunch of 1080p 30fps with "checkerboard" bullshit upscaling stuff going on

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« Reply #442 on: July 23, 2020, 09:43:14 PM »
but my 4k tv doe  :'(
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« Reply #443 on: July 23, 2020, 09:52:49 PM »
but my 4k tv doe  :'(

This. I want native 4k fuck everyone else  :sheik

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« Reply #444 on: July 23, 2020, 09:57:39 PM »
i mean, same, but the internal upscaling is fine. better to have a lower internal res running at a stable 30 (or 60+ fps) with more complex detail than simple poly smooth brain low texture environments and models so you see the smoothness running at native 4k.
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« Reply #445 on: July 23, 2020, 10:08:58 PM »
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« Reply #446 on: July 23, 2020, 10:11:24 PM »
is sprinting some kind of controversy in the halo world lol? tbh the movement of the games i've played (1,2,3, only multiplayer) felt really slow and 'bouncy'.
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« Reply #447 on: July 23, 2020, 10:12:37 PM »
console gamers: omg, these lazy devs better make this game running on mid range hardware support 4k

also console gamers: why does it look so shitty!?

RTX is another check box feature they're touting for this console that is really just a gimmick for now. Sure, if you reduce complexity everywhere else it looks pretty cool, but I don't want all my games looking like a high res, well lit versions of games from the 90s.


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« Reply #448 on: July 23, 2020, 10:29:25 PM »
ah, never considered the 'shoot and jump' aspect of that.. makes sense. i'm a fps noob and terrible at them.
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« Reply #449 on: July 23, 2020, 11:39:43 PM »
“Part of the reason we haven’t talked a lot about Everwild is because we’re still feeling a lot of these things out. We’re still playing around with gameplay ideas."

It kinda sounds like they have nearly zero titles within 2021 and the majority of games are really far out.

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« Reply #450 on: July 23, 2020, 11:42:08 PM »
Whats a good 144hz wide monitor(is wide worth it?)?
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« Reply #451 on: July 23, 2020, 11:45:09 PM »
Whats a good 144hz wide monitor(is wide worth it?).

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/best/ultrawide-gaming

Ultra-wide is absolutely worth it for PC, but the jury's still out on whether it ends up being widely-used for Series X.

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« Reply #452 on: July 23, 2020, 11:53:02 PM »
Gorilla alien memes aside, Halo just looks so tired now. It should have been put out to pasture years ago.

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« Reply #453 on: July 24, 2020, 12:14:59 AM »
is sprinting some kind of controversy in the halo world lol? tbh the movement of the games i've played (1,2,3, only multiplayer) felt really slow and 'bouncy'.

Yes. It's an "armor ability" in Halo: Reach, 4, and 5. People don't like it. Mostly because they just made the maps BIGGER to make it feel like you're covering ground faster when in reality you aren't.

I wish I had that 4chan /v/ clip where they timed it.

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« Reply #454 on: July 24, 2020, 12:16:50 AM »
The future is gonna be things like Sony’s checkerboard rendering, AI based techniques like DLSS and others. 

Rendering the entire frame native 4K is a waste but you can do all kinds of things to come close and outside of examining screenshots or sitting too close to a monitor or something you’d hardly notice the difference, whereas you’ll definitely notice the effects that can be enabled or the frame rate increase using those techniques.

DLSS is already being touted with Death Stranding's PC port. People saying it looks really good at 4K with DLSS enabled cards.

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« Reply #455 on: July 24, 2020, 12:26:53 AM »
Whats a good 144hz wide monitor(is wide worth it?).

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/best/ultrawide-gaming

Ultra-wide is absolutely worth it for PC, but the jury's still out on whether it ends up being widely-used for Series X.
I’d never expect a lot of support on a console. The expectation will be 16x9 for pretty much all content/ui.
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« Reply #456 on: July 24, 2020, 12:54:27 AM »
DLSS = booty implants on IG models.
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« Reply #457 on: July 24, 2020, 12:54:49 AM »
Whats a good 144hz wide monitor(is wide worth it?).

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/best/ultrawide-gaming

Ultra-wide is absolutely worth it for PC, but the jury's still out on whether it ends up being widely-used for Series X.
I’d never expect a lot of support on a console. The expectation will be 16x9 for pretty much all content/ui.

It'll be "supported," but it won't be native. Just like 1080p was "supported" but it was never native resolution for games (they were upscaled sub-720p) during the PS360 era. Book it, that's the console norm.

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« Reply #458 on: July 24, 2020, 12:58:20 AM »
I wish I had that 4chan /v/ clip where they timed it.

Lucky for you guys, 4chan archives:

https://streamable.com/kj3m9j

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« Reply #459 on: July 24, 2020, 12:59:38 AM »
Over the past few weeks of reveals, the game I'm most interested in by far, is a PS2 hd remake... not really a whole lot for me in the Sony show or the MS show, I think there were like 1 or 2 games I was really feeling.
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« Reply #460 on: July 24, 2020, 01:14:50 AM »
indeed unwelcome
just let people move faster rather than a shitty animation of watching your limbs flail for a marginal acceleration

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« Reply #461 on: July 24, 2020, 01:17:44 AM »
The good news is that 343 have legitimate technical wizards and the hardware is very capable.

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"Technical Wizards."



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This open world shit is exactly the shot in the arm this franchise needed

TBH, those are kind of the worst levels in Halo. But in any case, the multiplayer and PC/engine performance and numerous bugs are what I'm worried about than "I CAN'T FINISH THE FIGHT!!!!!"-Post Halo 3 lore-campaignisms.

Halo 4/5 were really good looking is all I'm saying. They uh....had to learn a bit on the QA side of things though.

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« Reply #462 on: July 24, 2020, 02:25:53 AM »

do you accept the boof
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gameplay looks pretty good but hopefully someone turns on dynamic lighting before the next showing cuz holy fuck
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« Reply #463 on: July 24, 2020, 02:42:20 AM »
is sprinting some kind of controversy in the halo world lol? tbh the movement of the games i've played (1,2,3, only multiplayer) felt really slow and 'bouncy'.

One of the most overrated series imho

Halo 1 was greay though for the time

I tried 2/3/odst/5 but they all feel meh

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« Reply #464 on: July 24, 2020, 02:48:27 AM »
I just want th next gears lol

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« Reply #465 on: July 24, 2020, 03:33:38 AM »
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« Reply #467 on: July 24, 2020, 06:58:24 AM »
RTX is another check box feature they're touting for this console that is really just a gimmick for now. Sure, if you reduce complexity everywhere else it looks pretty cool, but I don't want all my games looking like a high res, well lit versions of games from the 90s.
It's sublime for reflections, because the alternatives all suck. Cubemaps are fine at a glance, but work intensive. Screenspace relflections are so distracting I'd rather not have any. Thankfully the console RT seems to be powerful enough for those, since Ratchet and Clanks has RT reflections.

Another thing I hope to never see again are the seams from cascading shadows, but you don't need RT for that, I don't think.



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« Reply #468 on: July 24, 2020, 06:59:42 AM »
i'm more impressed with DLSS, that's proper wizard shit.

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« Reply #469 on: July 24, 2020, 07:05:15 AM »
DLSS = booty implants on IG models.
It's more like make-up or a light photoshop filter. The results with DLSS 2.0 are great. You get more apparent detail than native, free AA and it runs better on top of all this. It's magical.

Only Control, Wolfenstein Youngblood and Death Stranding have it so far, but I want to see it everywhere.

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« Reply #471 on: July 24, 2020, 09:20:27 AM »
It seems it kind of has RT reflections. At least very limited ones. Once items are no longer static, they are no longer reflected. Its in the DF video.

Its still much better than any of the other methods you provided, though. Its still really the only Next Gen game we've seen.
Debris from destroyed objects, that is. Every other dynamic element is reflected iirc.

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« Reply #472 on: July 24, 2020, 09:37:35 AM »
https://twitter.com/Nibellion/status/1286653437220999168

"Listen.. we'll crunch this shit, remember Perfect Dark Zero?"

 :picard

Something tells me this won't launch with multiplayer.
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« Reply #473 on: July 24, 2020, 10:25:52 AM »
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tfw HALO is a platform now


This shit is in development hell for the past 5 years, everything is horribly outdated and we can't just start over. Honestly it looks worse than The Conduit

:cenk Let's not get crazy.

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« Reply #474 on: July 24, 2020, 10:31:26 AM »
343 :girlaff
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« Reply #475 on: July 24, 2020, 10:37:15 AM »
343 :girlaff

The MCC collection being bugged as shit even on PC a decade after they launched it. :beli

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« Reply #476 on: July 24, 2020, 11:04:16 AM »
And no splitscreen on pc
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« Reply #477 on: July 24, 2020, 11:04:57 AM »
And no splitscreen on pc

Wait really :lol

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« Reply #478 on: July 24, 2020, 11:06:02 AM »
And no splitscreen on pc

Wait really :lol

Yup which is one of the personal reasons I was looking forward to the pc rereleases
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« Reply #479 on: July 24, 2020, 11:13:53 AM »
Ew.. who the fuck wants to split screen on anything in 2020?  lol

Get 2 PCs you poor.

I have friends who I see in real life you know

and no munneh for 2pcs
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