Corona Thread |OT| Nu variant, who dis?

[VomKriege]

hopefully it slows down even more, although it's amazing to me that even with all the measures in place we'll still have millions of cases. How long can people stay inside?

Iceland conducted tests on a random sample of 5k people (on top of 10k tests presumably done for symptoms / suspicions / people coming back from at risk regions) for a total population of 364k. So far they have 1086 positive cases. Complete stats here :https://www.covid.is/data.

Island nation and all that but that's one of the only "large" test sample we have so far.

[VomKriege]

Meanwhile, in Scientology...

https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2020/03/30/scientology-stays-open-but-says-its-virus-prevention-is-the-best-on-earth

[jorma]

hopefully it slows down even more, although it's amazing to me that even with all the measures in place we'll still have millions of cases. How long can people stay inside?

Iceland conducted tests on a random sample of 16k people for a total population of 364k (approx. and info dated March 29) which returned 1086 positive cases. Complete stats here :https://www.covid.is/data.

Island nation and all that but for the sake of argument just assuming that 1 in 16 is correct and applying it to the USA...

That's awesome!
More good news:
https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/sph/ide/gida-fellowships/Imperial-College-COVID19-Europe-estimates-and-NPI-impact-30-03-2020.pdf

They project that Spain is at 15% already, with 41% in the "credible range".

Another dude quoted in Swedish media today says that Sweden might have up to one million infected already. The official number is 150 dead and 4000 infected, so would be pretty amazing if true.

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/thetomzone/status/1244849320526053376

https://twitter.com/PlankySmith/status/1244855419891257346

 

[Ghoul]

that is the most cali bullshit I have ever seen.

[Fifstar]

hopefully it slows down even more, although it's amazing to me that even with all the measures in place we'll still have millions of cases. How long can people stay inside?

Iceland conducted tests on a random sample of 16k people for a total population of 364k (approx. and info dated March 29) which returned 1086 positive cases. Complete stats here :https://www.covid.is/data.

Island nation and all that but for the sake of argument just assuming that 1 in 16 is correct and applying it to the USA...

The thing is our current predictions on CFR or people needing heavy medical care are mainly based on the known infections. So if the dark figures are really that much higher, it also means it's less dangerous.

Btw. I'm not quite sure I understand the site you linked. Seems like 1086 infections is the total known number of infections, no? And those infections seem to be detected mainly through the normal process (being tested after showing symptoms). To my understanding it looks like just about 100 unfections were detected through the sampling (the orange bars that say decode genetics).This link says the samping suggets about 1% of the general population is infected https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/iceland-employs-detective-work-testing-quarantine-coronavirus-fight-n1170166

[brawndolicious]

White people always make drum circles when they're stressed. It's very weird.

[VomKriege]

hopefully it slows down even more, although it's amazing to me that even with all the measures in place we'll still have millions of cases. How long can people stay inside?

Iceland conducted tests on a random sample of 16k people for a total population of 364k (approx. and info dated March 29) which returned 1086 positive cases. Complete stats here :https://www.covid.is/data.

Island nation and all that but for the sake of argument just assuming that 1 in 16 is correct and applying it to the USA...

The thing is our current predictions on CFR or people needing heavy medical care are mainly based on the known infections. So if the dark figures are really that much higher, it also means it's less dangerous.

If the problem is not the lethality but how fast it is spreading, we're still left with the same problems on how to reopen safely. Though a very high rate of untracked infections with benign effects, if some immunity naturally exists after carrying it, would have the problem sort of sorting itself.

[VomKriege]

Some excerpts from an article about the Swedish approach and one of the study that may inform it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/fsa0za/the_pandemic_crippled_malm%C3%B6_ten_years_ago_swedish/

[Fifstar]

Edited my post, so here again regarding the data:

Btw. I'm not quite sure I understand the site you linked. Seems like 1086 infections is the total known number of infections, no? And those infections seem to be detected mainly through the normal process (being tested after showing symptoms). To my understanding it looks like just about 100 unfections were detected through the sampling (the orange bars that say decode genetics).This link says the samping suggets about 1% of the general population is infected https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/iceland-employs-detective-work-testing-quarantine-coronavirus-fight-n1170166

[VomKriege]

Edited my post, so here again regarding the data:

Btw. I'm not quite sure I understand the site you linked. Seems like 1086 infections is the total known number of infections, no? And those infections seem to be detected mainly through the normal process (being tested after showing symptoms). To my understanding it looks like just about 100 unfections were detected through the sampling (the orange bars that say decode genetics).This link says the samping suggets about 1% of the general population is infected https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/iceland-employs-detective-work-testing-quarantine-coronavirus-fight-n1170166

You're right. Apparently the sampling is approx 5k(?) individuals. The rest of the tests would probably be the result of people being taken in charge by health professionals because of symptoms or suspicions, which would obviously produce higher positive results. I was misled by a simplistic presentation of the numbers elsewhere.

Amended my earlier post.
Still interesting because that's one of the few "large" pooling sample to population we have to get an idea of how many asymptomatic cases there are.

[VomKriege]

The Paris Prosecutor ("AG" I guess is the closest equivalent) said he received "a dozen" complaints against the government for the COVID management crisis already.

[Potato]

Apparently, according to the experts, we are doing pretty well here.

Experts hopeful Australia is turning corner on coronavirus as Health Minister declares curve is flattening

The daily growth rate of coronavirus cases in Australia has fallen so significantly that the federal Health Minister believes "we are now flattening the curve".

Greg Hunt said the daily increase in cases had dropped from 25–30 per cent just over a week ago to 9 per cent this week.

Experts say the slowing growth rate of COVID-19 shows the actions taken by the National Cabinet, and individual Australians, are working.

Mr Hunt said the physical-distancing measures being implemented by Australians were saving lives.

"In these most difficult of times, with these most difficult of measures that none of us had ever dreamt we would ever be involved in, you have risen to the occasion," he said.

"We are seeing what I would describe as early promising signs of the curve flattening."

But Victorian authorities are concerned about a jump in suspected community transmissions in that state, and have warned the virus could begin significantly spreading in the next few days.

Paul Glasziou, the director of Bond University's Institute for Evidence-Based Healthcare, said "things are actually looking very good".

He said the data showed measures such as cancellations of mass gatherings and travel bans had made a difference.

The professor estimates Australia would have had about 8,000 cases of the virus by now, rather than just over 4,000, if the National Cabinet had not taken such measures.

Considering numbers are, at best, a reflection of the situation about a week ago, then I expect a bit of a spike in the next few days because of the fucking cruise ships and people returning from overseas.

Hopefully we can limit community spread sufficiently.

[VomKriege]

https://twitter.com/dyllyp/status/1244662601809682432

Ten more inches in Heaven.

[VomKriege]

Two senators for French Guiana have made a statement they'd like the help of Cuban doctors. French Guiana is, unsurprisingly, a territory where healthcare infrastructure is the lightest.

[Uncle]

https://twitter.com/thetomzone/status/1244849320526053376

https://twitter.com/PlankySmith/status/1244855419891257346

 

https://www.poemuseum.org/the-masque-of-the-red-death

[Ghoul]

White people always make drum circles when they're stressed. It's very weird.

#notallwhites

[VomKriege]

Turkmenistan solves the "Coronavirus" crisis !
https://rsf.org/en/news/turkmenistan-bans-word-coronavirus

[ToxicAdam]

It only took 30 years, but I think now is the time for the Flowbee to take off.  They should've been marketing this product to doomsday preppers all this time.

[bork]

https://twitter.com/Schwarzenegger/status/1244693358766743557
 

[Madrun Badrun]

at the current rate of growth (doubling every three days), here are the new US estimates

Mon 3/30   150,000
Tue 3/31   189,000
Wed 4/1   238,140
Thu 4/2   300,056
Fri 4/3   378,071
Sat 4/4   476,370
Sun 4/5   600,226
Mon 4/6   756,284
Tue 4/7   952,918
Wed 4/8   1,200,677
Thu 4/9   1,512,853
Fri 4/10   1,906,195

hopefully it slows down even more, although it's amazing to me that even with all the measures in place we'll still have millions of cases. How long can people stay inside?

This will give you better regression lines 

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/21/upshot/coronavirus-deaths-by-country.html

edit: 3 days for us is pretty spot on

[VomKriege]

For all the (deserved) shit far-left Mélenchon gets in France, he actually had a good question yesterday : "Everyone agrees with the exceptional shutdown now, but it has been extended to April 15th. So be it, but by what metrics or criteria is the government deciding we may exit it ?".

The whole thing is moving incredibly fast and most countries have reacted to an emergency but I think it's pertinent to ask this (and the implied follow up : what next ?).

[VomKriege]

Also Macron announced 4 billion euros to masks, PPE and ventilators... Said that the EU should regain some production self capacity on those items. Also promised a massive plan to haul French healthcare (which is good but was under "rationalisation" attempts for 20 to 30 years).

The guy was elected as the liberal international capitalist centrist that was gonna tow the EU deficit line, balance budgets and modernize France but he's making billions rain now. I like that better, don't get me wrong, but

[BisMarckie]

Still can’t find a roofer to fix a broken tile.

Had to climb up there myself and temporarily put some foil over the broken tile. I don’t even know if that has any effect, but I could have been one of the corona deaths not showing up in any statistic. 

[james]

I think corona is sort of dying out now. Bit of a bust really

[Madrun Badrun]

Think you just became accustomed to the new normal. 

[Madrun Badrun]

Still can’t find a roofer to fix a broken tile.

Had to climb up there myself and temporarily put some foil over the broken tile. I don’t even know if that has any effect, but I could have been one of the corona deaths not showing up in any statistic. 

Congrats on foiling your tile in these trying times. 

[Pissy F Benny]

gosh aren't all our faces gonna be red when it turns out corona was a gloablist hoax to help us get used to a police state 

[VomKriege]

https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1244999134463111168

The Fascists have called in their old Allies in this effort to gaslight us : *checks note* doctors and nurses.

[nachobro]

https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1244999134463111168

The Fascists have called in their old Allies in this effort to gaslight us : *checks note* doctors and nurses.

i'm sure he'll remember this strong stance against state's rights the next time something related to abortion comes up

[Madrun Badrun]

The small indian bakery that I go to shut down it seems - shame it was a good place.  Double shame, I left the house for nothing. 

[team filler]

President Moon Jae-In,

We need your help. Our President waffles back and forth on how to use the factories in our country everyday because he can't figure out which oligarchs he wants to please. Essential workers are kept grinding away until they fall seriously ill or die, because they are not given any sick time to recuperate despite having essential functions in a pandemic. These combined issues have resulted in a dilemma where all the people working the jobs society needs to function are performing them with no protection or financial security. If they speak out about the dangerous work conditions, they are immediately let loose by the managerial bureaucracy comfortably working from home despite having a shortage of necessary personnel. The plutocrat press praises governor Cuomo's response to this crisis despite his decade of work spent closing hospitals and advocating for workers to have less coverage, we have no voice. Please send Daewoo K1A Assault Carbine and  K-SAM Chunma to our oppressed friends in New York City.

https://twitter.com/matthewherper/status/1245000038570393602

[james]

Think you just became accustomed to the new normal.

Nah it's because all the exponential talk didn't pan out.

We should be at 10 million dead by now but we barely cracked 3000.

And Rand paul is still alive

[VomKriege]

So apparently some people at the Imperial College London, quoted in a MIT review, are envisioning on/off shutdowns (1month off, 2 months on) until a vaccine is found.

 

No fam, fuck this.

[VomKriege]

K-SAM Chunma

Maybe try asking directly to Macron, he's in a generous mood.

[james]

https://mobile.twitter.com/CNN/status/1245013007010344960

 

[bluemax]

So apparently some people at the Imperial College London, quoted in a MIT review, are envisioning on/off shutdowns (1month off, 2 months on) until a vaccine is found.

 

No fam, fuck this.

It seems almost inevitable. There's no way in California we are going back until May, and who knows if that will even work out.

[VomKriege]

His brother will stop at nothing in his stealth presidential run. 

[Madrun Badrun]

Think you just became accustomed to the new normal.

Nah it's because all the exponential talk didn't pan out.

We should be at 10 million dead by now but we barely cracked 3000.

And Rand paul is still alive

Think that's cause the intial rate people were talking about was doubling every day.  Hold your horses and you'll get your millions of deaths. 

[CatsCatsCats]

Tired of rich people getting tested even tho they’re “feeling well” 

[james]

Think you just became accustomed to the new normal.

Nah it's because all the exponential talk didn't pan out.

We should be at 10 million dead by now but we barely cracked 3000.

And Rand paul is still alive

Think that's cause the intial rate people were talking about was doubling every day.  Hold your horses and you'll get your millions of deaths.

Im just tired of waiting.

And no, i don't want millions of deaths. Just a handful.

Trump
Pence
Bolsonaro
JayD
Rand Paul
Rick Scott

You know, the axis of evil

[VomKriege]

Tired of rich people getting tested even tho they’re “feeling well” 

Yeah that's fucked up. I only hear about celebrities / elected officials that died of it or are hospitalized here, though I'm sure Yuro celebs can buy a test from a lab just fine, maybe I don't give enough attention to their Twitter or something... Or maybe they don't flaunt it as much.

[Great Rumbler]

Think you just became accustomed to the new normal.

Nah it's because all the exponential talk didn't pan out.

We should be at 10 million dead by now but we barely cracked 3000.

And Rand paul is still alive

I wish you'd get corona.

[BisMarckie]

Only after I get my money!

[james]

Think you just became accustomed to the new normal.

Nah it's because all the exponential talk didn't pan out.

We should be at 10 million dead by now but we barely cracked 3000.

And Rand paul is still alive

I wish you'd get corona.

Get me tickets to the libertarian gala and we have a deal

[Mr. Gundam]

Got discharged from the hospital last Friday and now safely at home. Talking to my friend who's a doctor at University of Washington, they're expecting the surge to hit Seattle in about 2 1/2 weeks now, the weekend of March 20-22 was really sunny and people were fucking stupid and congregated outside.

[VomKriege]

https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1244999134463111168

The Fascists have called in their old Allies in this effort to gaslight us : *checks note* doctors and nurses.

i'm sure he'll remember this strong stance against state's rights the next time something related to abortion comes up

Well, actually, about those abortions... Did you know most fetuses had several comorbidities ?

Some employees at McCarran airport got it, where Shosta Sr. works. This is how he's gonna get it. And then that's how I'm going to get it. 

Is Shosta Sr drilled into the whole washing hands, keep distance, etc... thing ? Do that if not. Not much but anything to minimize risk.

[VomKriege]

Follow up : Is Shosta the kid in F for Family ?

[BisMarckie]

It's absolutely a Chinese bioweapon

Failing Chicoms invented a bioweapon that is worse at killing people than abandoned mustard gas. 

[Pissy F Benny]

Riots and looting 

[VomKriege]

7 more deaths in a nursing home of Lorient. We're still waiting on an official tally that was promised last week for deaths outside the hospital system. Belgium has started adding those, they're at 705 total.

France is currently at 20k tests a day.
499 deaths in the last 24h.
Big spike in new cases too (+7k according to Worldometers).
Still a lot of ICU admissions.
Lockdown effects not kicking in yet...

[bork]

Wife's job situation is starting to get kinda fun in a general boredom sort of way.

-She gets sent home by her boss on a Friday out of health concerns (pregnancy)
-She goes back in the following Monday and is sent back home again for the same reason plus no client business
-She stays home for the rest of the week on PTO
-She is told she cannot work remotely
-Yesterday, she is told she can work remotely
-She is told hours later that she cannot work remotely again (lol)
-She receives paperwork about staying at home and 'emergency' extra sick leave for another two weeks, asking for specific reasons why people can't come in (Seriously??)
-Literally right after she sends this in, she is told her office has been shut down for the remainder of the week and everyone was sent home 

[VomKriege]

28 846 tests, 8 660 positives for the exact French numbers today.

[nachobro]

or just say "for retarded liberatarian reasons" so we can just move on and continue to not care about jd's input

[Madrun Badrun]

Ya keep this is the American trash thread. 

[ToxicAdam]

Jaydubya's posts are like a corpse in a confined space.

Are you dumb enough to actually go in and engage with it?

[james]

The only thing any of Jays posts have to do with Coronavirus is that we all hope he gets it and gets denied medical care due to a bureaucratic error

[Transhuman]

https://mobile.twitter.com/VampireGhuleh/status/1244678272048340992

I was eating some chips and I threw one to a pidgeon I saw, instantly 15 or so pidgeons swoop down (as well as a seagull, and the beach is miles away).

Nature is gonna be weird for a while.

[Nintex]

Today our government decided to extend the semi-lockdown up to April 28th.
Our PM added that he'd be surprised if life could return back to normal after and that people shouldn't make plans for their May holiday and should stay inside during Easter.

Our IC capacity has been expanded from 1150 beds a week ago to 2400 now but it is uncertain if this is enough.
This weekend is expected to be a real test for the system. Government is also planning to increase testing capacity to 29k a day so people other than healthcare workers and terminally ill can get tested.
Again he said these are war time conditions and the biggest crisis we faced since the war when a journalist asked if he had a message for bars/restaurant/pub owners going through difficult times.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

COVID-19 is totally a Chinese bio-weapon

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[Madrun Badrun]

The only thing any of Jays posts have to do with Coronavirus is that we all hope he gets it and gets denied medical care due to a bureaucratic error

I think ventilators should be rationed by post history.