Corona Thread |OT| Nu variant, who dis?

[tiesto]

Mongolia has the lowest population density in the world.

which helps.

also studies are showing it's pretty beneficial to be an island.

Unless you're Manhattan or Long Island. 

[BisMarckie]

Or Great Britain

[Tripon]

Coupong been described to me as the Amazon of South Korea.

[Raist]

https://twitter.com/derekjGZ/status/1265767628016103425

Compassion, or being a massive island in the middle of fucking nowhere with one of the lowest populations densities and fully shutting down any travel over 2 months ago.

Who knows!

[Joe Molotov]

Maybe they hit 0 because everyone died. Has anyone checked in on New Zealand lately?

[kingv]

I check on Jacinda Ardens sexy ass regularly thank you.

[Flannel Boy]

https://twitter.com/derekjGZ/status/1265767628016103425

Compassion, or being a massive island in the middle of fucking nowhere with one of the lowest populations densities and fully shutting down any travel over 2 months ago.

Who knows!

Australia has had a nearly identical trajectory. Somehow I doubt he'll call the country's leadership compassionate.

[Joe Molotov]

I check on Jacinda Ardens sexy ass regularly thank you.

Hmmm...I'm still skeptical. Gonna need some photo evidence.

[Flannel Boy]

https://www.denverpost.com/2020/05/23/colorado-suicides-dropped-coronavirus-pandemic-calls-to-crisis-line-spiked/

Colorado recorded a 40% decrease in suicides in March and April as social-distancing policies aimed at slowing the spread of the novel coronavirus kept residents home, according to provisional death-certificate data from the state health department.

[Fifstar]

https://twitter.com/ChrisGiles_/status/1265885480144470023

I'm not sure why there US figure is so low.

Well, their normal per capita is a bit more than half the number of the UK, so there is that.

From a quick glance, it looks like the UK and Italy are currently underestimating their Covid death numbers and the other countries excess death numbers are more in line with their per capita number (very quick glance ;-).

In general, a big country like the US with it's cities spread all over it will probably fare better during such a superspread event driven outbreak I guess. Helps that the outbreak came later in the US, as warm temperatures seem to help bring the numbers down.

[Flannel Boy]

I meant that the FT's excess deaths estimate for the US is low. FT says there are over 60,000 excess deaths, but official state figures have it over 100k and there are over 140,000 excess deaths looking at the CDC data (not factoring the 20,000 fewer non-natural deaths).

[Madrun Badrun]

I wish I could find stuff on excessive deaths in Canada but all I get is stuff from 2 weeks ago without Ontario.  https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/excess-death-january-to-march-statistics-canada-1.5568040  though it seems to be good news so far. 

[Dickie Dee]

Doctors’ new coronavirus threat: Patients who refuse to wear masks
Health care workers don’t want to fight the mask culture war, but they’re being forced to.

...

Ryan Shannon, an ER doctor in Florida, describes a patient refusing to wear a mask, even though she was in a room next to an immunocompromised person at high risk of severe Covid-19 illness and death. “She refused, threw the mask on the floor, and proceeded to berate myself and my staff for being a part of the ‘conspiracy and hoax’ that is Covid-19,” he wrote in a May 11 Facebook post.

After the patient’s refusal to follow guidelines, her husband insisted on sitting in the part of the waiting room designated for patients with respiratory complaints like Covid-19, instead of in his car as he was instructed

...

Confusion about when and where masks should be worn is also playing out in other high-risk places that provide medical care, like nursing homes. Sue Krohn-Taylor is an administrator at a 72-apartment low-income senior living facility in the large town of Grand Island, Nebraska, where a resident has tested positive for Covid-19. She says she’s been battling some residents who refuse to wear masks, and is exhausted.

“This week, the son of one of the residents told me I was taking away their liberties by making them wear a mask in the common areas,” she says. “If they were only harming themselves, I would back off, but they are placing each and every resident here, and my staff, and our families in harm’s way.”

[Fifstar]

I meant that the FT's excess deaths estimate for the US is low. FT says there are over 60,000 excess deaths, but official state figures have it over 100k and there are over 140,000 excess deaths looking at the CDC data (not factoring the 20,000 fewer non-natural deaths).

Ah I see. Maybe they just use the most recent data they have and it's not an date range adjusted comparison? Pretty sure Germany doesn't have history weekly or daily excess death numbers, so the most recent data point would be for the end of April. This data seems compared here to more recent data in other countries.

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/sfchronicle/status/1266082493188341761

 

[curly]

https://mobile.twitter.com/SummerForPA/status/1265751645616582658

[curly]

https://mobile.twitter.com/politico/status/1266017655577812999

We're fucked!!!

[Flannel Boy]

https://twitter.com/youyanggu/status/1266103565870747648

Wow. A bit better than the IHME's model:

[Flannel Boy]

going on tv to parade how close your predictions were is such an asshole move. fraudulent, too

He went on TV May 3rd, and those were his prediction made that day. I don't see how it's an asshole move. His model is showing that deaths will start to rise again at the end of June. Based on his track-record, people should pay attention.


I don't see how it's fraudulent.

[Madrun Badrun]

Like you wouldn't go on TV and parade around after winning what is basically a gamble.  We know how you did James. 

[Flannel Boy]

His accuracy doesn't matter because there's too much uncertainty in the application of social distancing measures and pretending like it makes him an authority is absolutely fraudulent.

All models are based on assumptions, so all models must make assumptions as to what social distancing measures will be put in place (or relaxed) and how people will adhere to them. To date, he's been making the right assumptions. How is that a strike against him?

"Going on TV to parade how close your predictions were," which he didn't do (he went when the predictions were made) was fraudulent, now making him an authority is fraudulent (strawman).

He's had the most accurate model, so it would be wise to look at it. He could be wrong because past success is no guarantee of future success. He could've simply have been lucky.

[zomgee]

Current local logic: more people die in car crashes so MayBE YOu sHoUD BAn CaRS!

[Madrun Badrun]

We should ban cars, solves the environment and fat people.  Also, I have an idea for a start-up which is like Uber but with rickshaws. 

[Madrun Badrun]

Though to be honest, it's more of a vehicle for my in house documentary about me 'Rick Shaw' and how I grew Rick Shaw's Rickshaws out of the post virus economy to be the number 2 app-based rickshaw service in Ontario and the spectacular posting life I lead.  Now, who wants to be my Carole Baskins?

[Tripon]

Miles Martinez is a lifelong New Yorker who owns a barbershop called Tuft in the Lower East Side of Manhattan that has been decimated by COVID-19.

About 80% of the shop's staff became sick with COVID-19, but Martinez was hit particularly hard: He had to be intubated and placed in a medically induced coma for 17 days, during which he lost 40 pounds.

The barbershop has been closed since March 13 and all of his staff has been furloughed, but they're now making safety plans so they can reopen as soon as they're allowed.

The experience taught Martinez the importance of being prepared for any situation, and he wants people to know that COVID-19 can seriously affect even young, healthy people who think they're invincible.

I felt terrible, had a really high fever every day, and had a lot of trouble breathing, too. It was hard to talk to my family, and the nurses and doctors weren't really telling me what was going on. They only gave me Tylenol for my fever, which didn't really help. At the end of the week, I was finally put on a five-day dose of hydroxychloroquine. 

After days of the same pain, the doctors suggested having me intubated and put into a medically induced coma to give my lungs a rest, for what they initially said would be about five to seven days.  The idea sounded terrifying at first, but after feeling so sick for so long, I realized that it was the best thing for my condition and I accepted it. As soon as I found out that it was actually happening, I FaceTimed with my wife and told her. She was very scared and it was such a strange feeling when we said "goodbye" because neither of us were sure if it was temporary or permanent.

In the very early morning hours on March 23, I was transferred to the cardiac ICU to be intubated and put on a ventilator for 17 days. From what I've been told (although I wasn't aware when it was happening), my path during this time took many twists and turns. There were many days that the doctors and my family thought might be my last, and it became increasingly difficult to identify what was making me so sick. I did not respond to the hydroxychloroquine, and we also went through several other types of medications that did not help my condition improve.

After five days, my fevers wouldn't stop, and antibiotics weren't working.
The medical staff thought I might have a bacterial pneumonia from being on the ventilator for so long. I also had issues with my lungs, kidneys, and heart.

Ultimately, it turned out that my immune system was overreacting and a cytokine storm was taking place in my body — which is when the body starts to attack its own cells and tissues rather than just fighting off the virus. Only after several rounds of intense steroids, I finally began to turn a corner. Apparently I was giving signs that I was "ready" to be taken off the ventilator, and even in my sedated state, I was quite aggressive about making this clear. 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/im-healthy-34-old-spent-142610103.html

[Flannel Boy]

Current local logic: more people die in car crashes so MayBE YOu sHoUD BAn CaRS!

The premise isn't true: 30,000-40,000 die in car crashes per year. 100,000-150,000 have died of COVID-19 in a few months, many more would've died without action.
The analogy doesn't make sense. There are thousands of restrictions dealing with cars to prevent car fatalities. Why can't there be temporary restrictions on movement or gatherings to prevent COVID-19 fatalities?

[Tripon]

Current local logic: more people die in car crashes so MayBE YOu sHoUD BAn CaRS!

The premise isn't true: 30,000-40,000 die in car crashes per year. 100,000-150,000 have died of COVID-19 in a few months, many more would've died without action.
The analogy doesn't make sense. There are thousands of restrictions dealing with cars to prevent car fatalities. Why can't there be temporary restrictions on movement or gatherings to prevent COVID-19 fatalities?

People understand the utility of owning and driving a car. What is the utility of contracting the coronavirus?

[Tripon]

https://www.rafu.com/2020/05/nijiya-temporarily-closes-torrance-store-for-cleaning/

TORRANCE — Nijiya Market, located at 2121 W. 182nd St. in Torrance, closed over the weekend due to concerns about the coronavirus and was still closed Tuesday morning.

A manager for Nijiya explained that the market is currently doing a deep cleaning after two workers tested positive for COVID-19. He said that neither employee has been in the market for more than a week, but as a precaution they are doing a thorough cleaning and restocking of items.

He said it may be a few more days before the store reopens.

A sign posted in front of the store reads, in part: “There is nothing more important for us than the safety and health of our customers and employees at Nijiya Market. We have been closely following the advice of public health authorities as well as Nijiya company policies and we are temporarily closing our TR store location due to COVID-19 concerns.

“While we conducted professional cleaning and disinfecting service throughout the store, we decided to close the store until further notice in order to assure the safe and healthful working and shopping environment. We will do our best to reopen the store as soon as possible.

“We truly apologize for any inconvenience.”

On the company website (www.nijiya.com) in March, Nijiya announced that it was taking the following precautionary measures:

“Updated Store Hours: We have updated our store hours to increase the time to restock and clean our stores. We thank you for your understanding.

“Continued Communication: We are closely monitoring the situation, and regularly providing all of our stores and employees with the most up-to-date safety guidance, as recommended by the CDC and other health officials.

“Offering Time Off to Employees: Employees have been asked to exercise increased precautions to safeguard their health and the health of their community, including staying home if they have any symptoms of illness or do not feel well.

“Prioritizing Good Hygiene Practices: We are providing continuous reminders about good hygiene practices and supporting our employees with necessary resources. For instance, ensuring every cashier at the registers has the opportunity to regularly wash their hands.

“Increasing Routine Cleaning: In line with our long-standing commitment to provide a safe and clean shopping environment, stores have increased the frequency of cleanings, paying close attention to high-touch areas such as restrooms, register areas, shopping carts and baskets.

“Suspending Sampling in Store: As this situation has evolved, we have taken increased precautions related to our food and beverage sampling in stores, including our decision to stop the practice until further notice.”

In Southern California, Nijiya also has locations in Torrance’s Rolling Hills Plaza, West Los Angele, Little Tokyo, Puente Hills and San Diego. There are also four in the Bay Area and two in Honolulu.

https://www.rafu.com/2020/05/nijiya-temporarily-closes-torrance-store-for-cleaning/

[Positive Touch]

welp my job called and wants me back on the eighth. for those that have been paying attention, about how dangerous is it to spend all day in a room with 6-10 other people who will probably not do a good job of covering their faces?

[Madrun Badrun]

Can I have your blurays? 

[Ghoul]

welp my job called and wants me back on the eighth. for those that have been paying attention, about how dangerous is it to spend all day in a room with 6-10 other people who will probably not do a good job of covering their faces?

I find taping a plastic bag over their heads works a treat. If they stop moving they're just napping.

[Tripon]

welp my job called and wants me back on the eighth. for those that have been paying attention, about how dangerous is it to spend all day in a room with 6-10 other people who will probably not do a good job of covering their faces?

The bigger the room, the better. If you can space out and put 6 feet between you, might want to put a marker around desks, like tape on the floor where people should stand, etc. Poor ventilation seems to be a big warning sign, so if the AC is terrible, it might be better to not have it on in the first place, but since we're moving into summer, that's unlikely to be viable.

So uh.....


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https://twitter.com/WJCLNews/status/1265640672738058240

[Positive Touch]

Can I have your blurays? 

sure but i need to be buried with my evangelion thanks

The bigger the room, the better. If you can space out and put 6 feet between you, might want to put a marker around desks, like tape on the floor where people should stand, etc. Poor ventilation seems to be a big warning sign, so if the AC is terrible, it might be better to not have it on in the first place, but since we're moving into summer, that's unlikely to be viable.

So uh.....

well the building is from the 50's so i'm gonna say the ventilation is probably trash.


fuck me, why the fuck are they doing this? my job isn't essential so i have to imagine it's some dumbfuck up top thinking this all isn't as bad as it really is. and it'd be hard as hell for me to find a decent job as is but with the way shit is now, jfc. we need to burn all this shit down and start over ASAP

[Akala]

Current local logic: more people die in car crashes so MayBE YOu sHoUD BAn CaRS!

The premise isn't true: 30,000-40,000 die in car crashes per year. 100,000-150,000 have died of COVID-19 in a few months, many more would've died without action.
The analogy doesn't make sense. There are thousands of restrictions dealing with cars to prevent car fatalities.

how many more would die in accidents per year without the tyranny of seatbelts infringing on our personal freedoms?

[kingv]

Current local logic: more people die in car crashes so MayBE YOu sHoUD BAn CaRS!

The premise isn't true: 30,000-40,000 die in car crashes per year. 100,000-150,000 have died of COVID-19 in a few months, many more would've died without action.
The analogy doesn't make sense. There are thousands of restrictions dealing with cars to prevent car fatalities. Why can't there be temporary restrictions on movement or gatherings to prevent COVID-19 fatalities?

Beyond that people are comparing corona to some of the top killers and shrugging it off as no big deal. 

Our systems are built to support predictable outcomes;  a certain amount of people dying or needing hospitalization from known disease within a given year.  Even back when people were comparing it to the flu before we ran past that number; influenza is the #8 killer of Americans... a brand new disease passing it up that didn't exist last year is fucking significant lol

Im not sure that  the biggest problem is that coronavirus is “if you get coronavirus you will probably die” (assuming you are reasonably healthy) but instead that nobody is fucking immune to it, so it spreads like wildfire. If 200 million Americans got the flu every year instead of 40 million and we set up temporary tent hospitals to deal with it we’d be pretty fucking scared of it too.

But dumb people don’t get that.

[Bebpo]

Man, I hope I don't die in the next couple of weeks.

I had to go see my dumb ass surgeon doctor today and he walks into this tiny closet room without a mask and stands 1-2 feet from me and tries to be all chatty and I try to ignore him and get him to distance and hurry up, but yeah. He sees dozens of patients a day and gets this close all day long and obviously takes no precautions (all his staff does and wears masks and is setup well, the other doctors in the suite are all wearing masks). While most of the patients had masks on, I saw the ones that came out before me were a husband and wife with no masks on, so he's seeing people and shaking hands and talking close up without masks and then talking in my face. Also a lot of his patients are immune suppressed like me. And this is in LA which has a lot of Covid cases.

If I live after the next 2-3 weeks I'm not going to see him again.

I'm a little anxious, but more just angry. There was nothing I could really do about it once he walks into this room and stands between me and the door and starts talking. I give my friends shit for going to restaurant dine-ins and the beach and all kinds of stuff already, but at those restaurants all the employees are wearing masks and outdoors is hard to spread, so what I just experienced was 100x more risky than anything my "freedom" friends are out doing. And they're not even immune suppressed like me.

Anyhow, it's past and there's nothing I can do about it. Either this doctor was active and contagious and I caught it or he wasn't or I didn't. If I get it, either I'll be ok, or I'll be dead.
Just kinda discomforting thinking these could be the last weeks of my life suddenly. 

[Tripon]

Experts think the new coronavirus originated in bats, then jumped to humans via an intermediary animal species.

Initially, authorities in Wuhan, China — where the first cases were reported— thought that jump happened at a local wet market.

Now, the Chinese CDC has ruled out the market as a possible origin site for the outbreak. Instead, it may have been the site of an early super-spreader event.

Animals sold at the market were not infected with the virus, tests showed, which suggests that they couldn't have infected shoppers.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/chinese-cdc-now-says-coronavirus-224900090.html

[Madrun Badrun]

Ya, that sounds like china excussing wet markets. 

[kingv]

Chinese CDC is a stupid name for the Chinese CDC.

[team filler]

chicoms cdc 

[Ghoul]

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1266335781775380480

cool.

[Madrun Badrun]

They are testing monkeys in India but not sick people.  Where is the conspiracy thread again? 

[Ghoul]

A gang of monkeys attacked a laboratory assistant and escaped with a batch of coronavirus test samples, it has been reported.

The bizarre incident saw the troop of primates launch their assault near Meerut Medical College in Delhi, India.

According to local media, the animals then snatched COVID-19 test samples from three patients and fled.

Monkeys get on a motorcycle to eat fruits from a box during a the lockdown in New Delhi

One of the monkeys was later spotted in a tree chewing one of the sample collection kits, the Times of India reported - adding that test samples from the patients had to be taken again.

 

[ToxicAdam]

Army of the 12 monkeys strikes again

[Pissy F Benny]

Monkeys taking advantage of Indian Indirectness

[Flannel Boy]

https://twitter.com/39Magilla/status/1266412649471934468

[Joe Molotov]

A gang of monkeys attacked a laboratory assistant and escaped with a batch of coronavirus test samples, it has been reported.

The bizarre incident saw the troop of primates launch their assault near Meerut Medical College in Delhi, India.

According to local media, the animals then snatched COVID-19 test samples from three patients and fled.

Monkeys get on a motorcycle to eat fruits from a box during a the lockdown in New Delhi

One of the monkeys was later spotted in a tree chewing one of the sample collection kits, the Times of India reported - adding that test samples from the patients had to be taken again.

 

Someone accidentally fed the Simulation a rejected script for Dunston Checks In 2.

[tiesto]

WFH order was extended to at least July 4th!

[bork]

We thought my wife was about to be let go today, but it turned out to just be her boss setting up a call to ask when she's taking maternity leave, lol.

WFH order was extended to at least July 4th!

Mine is mid-September at the earliest...and even then my team might still be at home.  They also said people with kids won't be forced to come back.  At this point am not expecting to step foot in there until sometime next year. 

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/ehaspel/status/1266078083116871680

Dutch directness works for once?

https://twitter.com/DanaGoldstein/status/1266420631098310656

https://twitter.com/CDCgov/status/1266415877227978752

https://twitter.com/FranciscoMarty_/status/1266432108349644800

[EightBitNate]

Bout to get a haircut. Pray for me 😫

[BisMarckie]

Already got a haircut two weeks ago, one of my students commented on my grown out hair and I couldn't take this slight.

That fucker is going to fail this class btw.

[Tripon]

Already got a haircut two weeks ago, one of my students commented on my grown out hair and I couldn't take this slight.

That fucker is going to fail this class btw.

Schools in California have said that students can't fail during online learning.

[BisMarckie]

Good thing I am neither in California nor in a school.

Honestly though, most of the essays and term papers I hand out D's for are such a load of garbage that I could easily grade them with an F if I weren't such a nice guy.

I don't think I ever let anyone fail if they handed in anything close resembling a serious effort.

[Tripon]

(CNN)A person who partied in the Lake of the Ozarks, Missouri, area on Memorial Day weekend has tested positive for coronavirus -- and was possibly infectious over the holiday weekend.

The Boone County resident visited multiple bars on May 24 and 25, according to the Camden County Health Department. They "developed illness" on Sunday and were possibly infectious before then.
Video from that weekend shows partiers crowded together in a pool at Backwater Jacks Bar and Grill in Osage Beach on Saturday, according to Scott Pasmore, an anchor for CNN affiliate KTVK, who shot the footage.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/29/us/ozarks-missouri-party-coronavirus/index.html

The partier went to Backwater Jacks between approximately 1 p.m. and 5 p.m. local time and again shortly before 10 p.m. local, according to health officials.
The person -- who was not identified by officials -- also went to Shady Gators and Lazy Gators and Buffalo Wild Wings, officials said.
About 12,700 people in Missouri have tested positive for coronavirus and about 730 have died from Covid-19 infection, according to state data.
There have been no cases reported in Camden County residents this week, officials said.
Officials release timeline of infected person's movements
Camden County health officials urged those who were in the area to monitor for symptoms. They released a timeline of the infected person's movements, including a list of the bars they visited:
Saturday, May 23
Backwater Jacks: between approximately 1 p.m.-5 p.m.
Shady Gators and Lazy Gators Pool: 5:40 p.m.-9 p.m.
Backwater Jacks: 9:40 p.m.-10 p.m.
Sunday, May 24
Buffalo Wild Wings: 1 p.m.-2 p.m.
Shady Gators: around 2:30 p.m. until around 6:30-7 p.m.
'Zero Ducks Given' party drew crowds
As part of Missouri's reopening plan announced earlier this month, state officials said restaurants may offer dining-in services but must adhere to social distancing and other precautionary public health measures. The gathering that weekend violated social distancing measures intended to limit the spread of Covid-19. Backwater Jacks maintains that no laws were broken
Before you go to the pool, beach or lake this summer, read this
Before you go to the pool, beach or lake this summer, read this
The bar posted on Facebook that this was its launch of summer party called "Zero Ducks Given Pool Party" -- the third annual event. They advertised several DJs and bands performing throughout the event.
"The venue has worked with and taken the advice of government officials and management teams and will be following social distancing guidelines. Extra precautions and safety measures will be taken to provide a safe environment for you to enjoy the event," the bar said.
Medical staff was hired for the event, according to the bar, and anyone with a temperature of above 100.4 was denied access, they said. Hand sanitizer was also provided.
Coronavirus is not likely to spread in water, the CDC says, but it does spread through people in close proximity. Staying at least 6 feet from others is particularly important at pools or beaches because masks are impractical in water.
For example, several people who attended a high school swim party in neighboring Arkansas contracted Covid-19, Gov. Asa Hutchinson said Saturday.
Large turnout was expected
The Lake of the Ozarks expected a large turnout that weekend after getting a late start to the season because of the pandemic, according to CNN affiliate KTVI.
"It's supposed to be one of the biggest Memorial Day weekends we've seen at the lake here in years," Bill Morgan, manager of Robins Resort in Lake of the Ozarks, told KTVI that week.
Adam Kirk lives in Osage Beach, Missouri, and shot a time-lapse drone video that shows the amount of boat traffic on the Lake of the Ozarks that Saturday at 4:30 p.m.
"It definitely seems like more (traffic) than last year," he said. "It seems like everyone is having the same idea, to come to the lake to enjoy summer, because you can social distance at the same time."
CNN's Nick Watt, Emily Smith and Fenly Foxen contributed to this report.

[Madrun Badrun]

Ontario is looking good outside of the GTA, and even inside hospital numbers are slowly decreasing. 

[kingv]

I cut my own hair,

Got a little ahead of myself trying to give myself a Line up with the 1mm guard, so the back is pretty fucked, but it looks ok from the front.

I’ll never talk shit on great clips again.

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/GlennJacobsTN/status/1266783649787195393

[Tripon]

[Ghoul]

These protests are really gonna do numbers on new cases over the next couple of weeks