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Re: Corona Thread |OT| The Curse of La Rona
« Reply #8341 on: June 07, 2020, 08:16:41 PM »
Primary schools will open in some states at full capacity next week.
The numbers look good, but I still question what purpose this has. Summer break will be two weeks away at that point.

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« Reply #8343 on: June 07, 2020, 11:13:46 PM »
isn't that where all the rich elites are hiding out? of course they get the island virus free  :pacspit
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« Reply #8344 on: June 08, 2020, 07:21:01 AM »


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« Reply #8346 on: June 08, 2020, 10:53:37 AM »
my job opened back up today and i refused to go in. i saw what they were up to on zoom and welp it was business as usual - a bunch of people hanging out in smallish room and high fiving and shit, except now some of them had masks on their chins. i love my coworkers but fuck me i can never go back to that. just sad.
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« Reply #8347 on: June 08, 2020, 11:28:08 AM »
Is everyone ready for Corona Cjune!
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« Reply #8348 on: June 08, 2020, 11:50:58 AM »
I see a about...60-70% mask wearing when grocery shopping.  Almost entirely older dudes or teens not wearing them.

The people I see without masks are often the people most at risk. Like an old couple who clearly don’t get around really well, and are clearly obese walking around Walmart like nothing is happening

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« Reply #8350 on: June 08, 2020, 12:42:11 PM »
"grandpa shits his pants again"
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« Reply #8351 on: June 08, 2020, 12:49:11 PM »


German Paratrooper during WWII?  :doge

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« Reply #8352 on: June 08, 2020, 01:02:18 PM »


German Paratrooper during WWII?  :doge

Fallschirmjäger toughened up by the war in Russia it sounds like.
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« Reply #8353 on: June 08, 2020, 01:48:32 PM »
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Coronavirus patients who don't have any symptoms aren't driving  the spread of the virus, World Health Organization officials said Monday, casting doubt on concerns by some researchers that the virus could be difficult to contain due to asymptomatic infections.

Some people, particularly young and otherwise healthy individuals, who are infected by the coronavirus never develop symptoms or only develop mild symptoms. Others might not develop symptoms until days after they were actually infected.

Preliminary evidence from the earliest outbreaks indicated that the virus could spread from person-to-person contact, even if the carrier didn't have any symptoms. But WHO officials now say that while asympomatic spread can occur, it is not the main way it's being transmitted.

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To be sure, asymptomatic and presymptomatic spread of the virus appears to still be happening, Van Kerkhove said, but it remains "rare." That finding has important implications for how to screen for the virus and limit its spread.

"What we really want to be focused on is following the symptomatic cases," Van Kerkhove said. "If we actually followed all of the symptomatic cases, isolated those cases, followed the contacts and quarantined those contacts, we would drastically reduce" the outbreak.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/08/asymptomatic-coronavirus-patients-arent-spreading-new-infections-who-says.html?__source=twitter%7Cmain

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« Reply #8354 on: June 08, 2020, 01:58:48 PM »
Both Ontario and Quebec are starting to look better.  Toronto itself is not doing great, but it might be ok with regional opening.

Think we are in for a long road due to America being fucked though.

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« Reply #8355 on: June 08, 2020, 02:11:30 PM »
https://twitter.com/DrZoeHyde/status/1269968447753949185

Based on the above and using death totals without adding excess deaths, the IFRs are as follows (from lowest to highest):

Norway   0.96%
Austria   0.98%
Belgium   1%
Denmark   1%
Spain   1.01%
UK   1.17%
Switzerland   1.17%
Italy   1.22%
Germany   1.23%
Sweden   1.25%
France   1.31%

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« Reply #8356 on: June 08, 2020, 02:18:57 PM »
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Coronavirus patients who don't have any symptoms aren't driving  the spread of the virus, World Health Organization officials said Monday, casting doubt on concerns by some researchers that the virus could be difficult to contain due to asymptomatic infections.

Some people, particularly young and otherwise healthy individuals, who are infected by the coronavirus never develop symptoms or only develop mild symptoms. Others might not develop symptoms until days after they were actually infected.

Preliminary evidence from the earliest outbreaks indicated that the virus could spread from person-to-person contact, even if the carrier didn't have any symptoms. But WHO officials now say that while asympomatic spread can occur, it is not the main way it's being transmitted.

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To be sure, asymptomatic and presymptomatic spread of the virus appears to still be happening, Van Kerkhove said, but it remains "rare." That finding has important implications for how to screen for the virus and limit its spread.

"What we really want to be focused on is following the symptomatic cases," Van Kerkhove said. "If we actually followed all of the symptomatic cases, isolated those cases, followed the contacts and quarantined those contacts, we would drastically reduce" the outbreak.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/08/asymptomatic-coronavirus-patients-arent-spreading-new-infections-who-says.html?__source=twitter%7Cmain
I really hope this is the case.

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« Reply #8357 on: June 08, 2020, 03:33:51 PM »
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Coronavirus patients who don't have any symptoms aren't driving  the spread of the virus, World Health Organization officials said Monday, casting doubt on concerns by some researchers that the virus could be difficult to contain due to asymptomatic infections.

Some people, particularly young and otherwise healthy individuals, who are infected by the coronavirus never develop symptoms or only develop mild symptoms. Others might not develop symptoms until days after they were actually infected.

Preliminary evidence from the earliest outbreaks indicated that the virus could spread from person-to-person contact, even if the carrier didn't have any symptoms. But WHO officials now say that while asympomatic spread can occur, it is not the main way it's being transmitted.

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To be sure, asymptomatic and presymptomatic spread of the virus appears to still be happening, Van Kerkhove said, but it remains "rare." That finding has important implications for how to screen for the virus and limit its spread.

"What we really want to be focused on is following the symptomatic cases," Van Kerkhove said. "If we actually followed all of the symptomatic cases, isolated those cases, followed the contacts and quarantined those contacts, we would drastically reduce" the outbreak.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/08/asymptomatic-coronavirus-patients-arent-spreading-new-infections-who-says.html?__source=twitter%7Cmain

That doesn't make a lot of sense though. People are generally staying away from other people or staying home or wearing masks if they're sick and have symptoms. Yet the spread in contagion is absolutely huge. It just seems odd if it's not the asymptomatic people who think they are fine, or haven't developed symptoms that are spreading it in mass.

I wonder if they count symptomatic people who spread before symptoms develop as asymptomatic spread.

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« Reply #8358 on: June 08, 2020, 03:50:59 PM »
https://twitter.com/latimes/status/1270080157211152388

81 deaths this weekend. L.A. County is a long way to getting to zero and likely never will until a vaccine is distributed to everyone.

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« Reply #8359 on: June 08, 2020, 03:53:56 PM »
Yeah, So Cal is fucked. Not glad to be living here atm. Wish I could move along with my family to Canada.

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« Reply #8361 on: June 09, 2020, 12:50:25 AM »
We never flattened the curve and Garcetti started reopening stuff because Ventura and Orange County were. Now we've got bars, schools, day camps and movie theaters opening up this Friday.

They're gonna try to blame it on protests which is a load of shit.
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« Reply #8362 on: June 09, 2020, 12:21:17 PM »
I was listening to a podcast with the guy who coined the phrase social distancing.  He said that once you reopen there is almost no political will to shut down again.  America is fucked.

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« Reply #8363 on: June 09, 2020, 12:36:18 PM »
I was listening to a podcast with the guy who coined the phrase social distancing.  He said that once you reopen there is almost no political will to shut down again.  America is fucked.

The US, Latin America, south Asia, maybe Africa.

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« Reply #8364 on: June 09, 2020, 12:37:23 PM »
https://twitter.com/jneeley78/status/1270351991710113795

:dead

Yeah, the WHO walked back its statement a day about asymptomatic cases.


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« Reply #8366 on: June 09, 2020, 12:46:03 PM »
Who knew that in the battle of Trump vs. the WHO both come out as losers.  :doge

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« Reply #8367 on: June 09, 2020, 01:01:09 PM »
I read some crackpot theories that the Director-general was a diversity hire and that’s the reason why they suck.  :doge

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« Reply #8368 on: June 09, 2020, 01:02:38 PM »
Love those moments where we all have to decide if something is conspiratorial or just flat out incompetence / stupidity

When it comes to public institutions , I always side on incompetence since I am working in one. 

Bureaucrats can’t pull off a conspirational tactic, even if they wanted.  :doge

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« Reply #8369 on: June 09, 2020, 01:43:58 PM »
I was listening to a podcast with the guy who coined the phrase social distancing.  He said that once you reopen there is almost no political will to shut down again.  America is fucked.

Yeah, there's never been any question in my mind that a second shut-down is not gonna happen. We couldn't even get through one shut-down before people started to freak out and invade State Capitals with assault rifles. And there's too many local and state politicians that aren't willing to go through all this again, to say nothing of Trump and the Republicans in the federal government.
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« Reply #8372 on: June 09, 2020, 03:17:20 PM »
I have half of those year round :beli

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« Reply #8373 on: June 09, 2020, 04:14:11 PM »
abuela went into hospital with pneumonia, two days later lab results are negative for the covid  :pitbull
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« Reply #8376 on: June 09, 2020, 04:42:40 PM »
aawww yeah Deus Ex is almost real  8)
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« Reply #8377 on: June 09, 2020, 05:13:11 PM »
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« Reply #8385 on: June 09, 2020, 11:25:42 PM »
MT. GILEAD, Ohio — A new report from the Ohio Immigrant Alliance claims the Morrow County Correctional Facility failed to follow its own Infectious Disease Control Program as well as the National Detention Standards required in its contract with Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) amid the novel coronavirus pandemic, leading to the facility becoming the first county jail in Ohio and the first ICE detention center in the U.S. to be 100% COVID-positive.

“None of the inmates and detainees at Morrow County have been seen by a doctor in the facility, despite their COVID diagnoses. Nursing staff are not present at the jail overnight or on the weekends, and even when they are there, they often decline to provide health care, including Tylenol. Jail staff have repeatedly refused to call an ambulance for detainees in serious distress. What’s more, there are no interpreters available to translate detainee medical conversations, calling into question how jail staff are even making such life-or-death decisions in the first place,” the report states.


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« Reply #8391 on: June 10, 2020, 08:30:38 AM »
Las Vegas putting a Corona tax on food and drink prices... GOD DAMN!

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« Reply #8392 on: June 10, 2020, 09:58:52 AM »
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/for-profit-nursing-homes-83-percent-of-covid-deaths-eastern-ontario-1.5604880

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The risk of dying from COVID-19 has been significantly higher for residents of for-profit long-term care homes in eastern Ontario than for those in non-profit and municipally run facilities, a CBC analysis of provincial data has found.

Since the coronavirus outbreaks first struck dozens of long-term care homes across the region this spring, the vast majority of deaths — 82.5 per cent — have occurred in for-profit facilities.

That's despite the fact that there are about the same number of beds in each sector — 5,669 beds are operated by for-profit companies in this part of Ontario, while there are 5,733 beds in non-profit and municipal facilities. There have been roughly the same number of outbreaks at for-profit and non-profit facilities.

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« Reply #8393 on: June 10, 2020, 10:30:43 AM »
Yep, you guys got a few weeks before deaths start back to 2k+ daily.  At this point, I'm just angry that you guys are going to fuck us over since Canada finally has a handle on it.
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« Reply #8394 on: June 10, 2020, 11:37:34 AM »
Yep, you guys got a few weeks before deaths start back to 2k+ daily.  At this point, I'm just angry that you guys are going to fuck us over since Canada finally has a handle on it.
I think it's more likely that the US will just stay around ~900 deaths per day for months and months (not counting excess deaths). Even as things re-open, a large enough percentage of the population will WFH, wear masks, refuse to travel, practice social distancing. The R0 will be ~1 until the fall.

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« Reply #8395 on: June 10, 2020, 11:49:47 AM »
 I like how a lot of people are now pivoting to 'well we all have to die sometime." :killme

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« Reply #8396 on: June 10, 2020, 11:51:58 AM »
Imagine 900+ people a day dying from a specific thing and the country and leadership just being like "fuck it, it's over right" :trumps
All states have re-opened or are re-opening. It's mostly too late too show any federal leadership.

I like how a lot of people are now pivoting to 'well we all have to die sometime." :killme
The comment, for the most part, is hollow unless it's coming from a 70+ year-old.

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« Reply #8397 on: June 10, 2020, 12:04:43 PM »
We have to learn to live with it. There was never a path where we were going to New Zealand this outbreak. Especially now seeing how it's escalating in Mexico, Central America and Brazil.  It was always about stemming that first wave but not completely tanking the economy.






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« Reply #8398 on: June 10, 2020, 12:07:14 PM »
The comment, for the most part, is hollow unless it's coming from a 70+ year-old.

agree but there are some olds picking it up. I am just hoping to avoid being an outlier in the great american bug chase of summer 2020.

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« Reply #8399 on: June 10, 2020, 12:29:11 PM »
We have to learn to live with it. There was never a path where we were going to New Zealand this outbreak. Especially now seeing how it's escalating in Mexico, Central America and Brazil.  It was always about stemming that first wave but not completely tanking the economy.

While I agree with the idea that we were never going to get to a containment phase and that we'd need to learn to live with it, most US states opened up way too soon for even a mitigation phase.   And it's just going to get worse by year's end.  Quarantine was really the only shot at an exponential decrease, and a month longer would have made a large difference.  Now you guys have to plateau at 1k deaths instead of 200 deaths a day (and risk a second wave with 2k deaths a day, which I think is more likely.)  Like you guys had a chance to save hundreds of lives per day and just said fuck it.