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GreatSageEqualOfHeaven

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #18180 on: June 22, 2020, 11:50:12 AM »
Chinese characters performing Kung Fu are far from lacking in the video game space in terms of represenation. Hell, Chinese characters in games are pretty common in general.

How often do we see Black and Brown characters in games that aren't a blatant stereotype?

:thinking :brain

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #18181 on: June 22, 2020, 11:52:32 AM »
Chinese are the white people of Asians?

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« Reply #18182 on: June 22, 2020, 11:52:47 AM »
You know it's a cool videogame forum when you can't talk about the new smash character because the mods have to "review reports"

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« Reply #18183 on: June 22, 2020, 12:11:34 PM »
Who are all these tattletails spamming reports? ERA is so weird.

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« Reply #18184 on: June 22, 2020, 12:14:04 PM »
Would you get banned for using the term chi-com on ree, asking for a friend
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #18185 on: June 22, 2020, 12:14:32 PM »
Resetera is constantly conflating skin brightness with skin color with ethnicity with race.
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« Reply #18186 on: June 22, 2020, 12:20:26 PM »
Resetera is constantly conflating skin brightness with skin color with ethnicity with race.

they always focus on brightness and contrast like a pleb when everyone knows you have way more control using levels
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« Reply #18187 on: June 22, 2020, 12:37:05 PM »
Resetera is constantly conflating skin brightness with skin color with ethnicity with race.

they always focus on brightness and contrast like a pleb when everyone knows you have way more control using levels
I use curves.  :trumps

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« Reply #18188 on: June 22, 2020, 12:48:49 PM »
You know it's a cool videogame forum when you can't talk about the new smash character because the mods have to "review reports"
The new smash character is a lady POC. As I understand it, gamers hate lady POC.

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« Reply #18189 on: June 22, 2020, 01:37:40 PM »
the main reason they want twintelle so much is so they can make threads down the line about "is it just me, or do other players D/C against me and taunt more often when I play smash's only black character"
 :ohyeah
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« Reply #18190 on: June 22, 2020, 01:46:07 PM »
the main reason they want twintelle so much is so they can make threads down the line about "is it just me, or do other players D/C against me and taunt more often when I play smash's only black character"
 :ohyeah

It's also the n-th time an US centric forum like restera or gaf back then imposes their own cultural sensibilities onto other cultures. End US imperialism now :juche

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« Reply #18191 on: June 22, 2020, 01:49:25 PM »
:maduro
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« Reply #18192 on: June 22, 2020, 01:49:38 PM »
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Temporarily locking the thread while we review reports.

4 hours later and still locked :doge

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« Reply #18193 on: June 22, 2020, 01:50:00 PM »
Nintards getting mad that a chinese character instead of a black one got added to the Smash roster therefore muh racism muh diversity is peak Era.


edit: Sorry, I meant a w h i t e w a s h e d chinese character, apparently.


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Raist

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« Reply #18197 on: June 22, 2020, 02:44:28 PM »
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You talking about pigs?

If so, they're one of the most dangerous gangs in the country.

I'm pretty sure cops don't murder 14 people in a week-end in a single US city.

ACAB and defund etc in any case.

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« Reply #18198 on: June 22, 2020, 02:52:17 PM »
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You talking about pigs?

If so, they're one of the most dangerous gangs in the country.

I'm pretty sure cops don't murder 14 people in a week-end in a single US city.

Legit question for Urban Americans  - How do I kill the 30-50 Feral Cops that run into my yard within 3-5 mins while my small cats play?

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« Reply #18199 on: June 22, 2020, 03:09:13 PM »
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You talking about pigs?

If so, they're one of the most dangerous gangs in the country.

I'm pretty sure cops don't murder 14 people in a week-end in a single US city.

ACAB and defund etc in any case.

I don’t think that is a safe bet as you think.


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« Reply #18200 on: June 22, 2020, 03:12:34 PM »
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You talking about pigs?

If so, they're one of the most dangerous gangs in the country.

I'm pretty sure cops don't murder 14 people in a week-end in a single US city.

ACAB and defund etc in any case.

I don’t think that is a safe bet as you think.

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In 2019, 1,004 people were shot and killed by police according to the Washington Post, whereas the "Mapping Police Violence" project counted 1,098 killed.

So ~3 per day for the entire US.
Don't get me wrong, that's still an absurd number, but I doubt it's anywhere near crime-related killings.

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« Reply #18201 on: June 22, 2020, 03:21:03 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/104-shot-14-killed-in-chicago-over-weekend.232879/post-37730155

Uh...
Unless I'm missing some context that is one of the most fucked up posts I've seen on ERA and it hasnt been touched yet.

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« Reply #18202 on: June 22, 2020, 03:38:06 PM »
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So instead of bringing justice and creating a better work environment that clearly affected the quality of Mixer since it was failing and I’m sure a toxic work environment contributed to that....Phil just decided in a day I’m just gonna sell it off?

Like... what???

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So Microsoft are okay with partnering with Nazi/genocide enablers?


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« Reply #18203 on: June 22, 2020, 03:49:43 PM »
A bunch of people really believe MS learned about how the one minority that worked at Mixer was being treated differently and Phil Spencer decided to shut down mixer and partner with facebook, all in the matter of less than 12 hours.

What reality do these people live in?

why would they do a concern about a minority being treated badly and in order to fix it sell out completely to alt right racist facebook
 :brain
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« Reply #18204 on: June 22, 2020, 03:50:44 PM »
What genocide has facebook caused or enabled?

I mean outside of the thot genocide when they didn’t allow nudity on Instagram.

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« Reply #18205 on: June 22, 2020, 03:51:07 PM »
Ninja (who refuses to stream with women) bled their failing platform dry, made bank, and now gets to fuck off and do whatever he wants
 :success

https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/22/21298963/ninja-shroud-mixer-facebook-gaming-twitch
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« Reply #18206 on: June 22, 2020, 03:55:15 PM »
I thought mixer was kinda cool, but the writing was on the wall for a while. Nobody used it even when it was baked in into the xbox ui

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« Reply #18207 on: June 22, 2020, 03:56:07 PM »
Ninja (who refuses to stream with women) bled their failing platform dry, made bank, and now gets to fuck off and do whatever he wants
 :success

https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/22/21298963/ninja-shroud-mixer-facebook-gaming-twitch

I would love to know how those contracts were structured. There must've been some kind of "out clause" they had to get out of paying all that money if the company tanks. But streamers like Ninja/Shroud had all the leverage to where they could've asked for the moon and possibly got it.

Either way, it's one of the bigger fails for MS in a company that's had dozens of them.


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« Reply #18208 on: June 22, 2020, 03:58:19 PM »
Will be interesting when shareholders question them how much money was sunk into mixer. These streamer contracts were peanuts in the grand scheme of things

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« Reply #18209 on: June 22, 2020, 04:01:34 PM »
All this pearl clutching about facebook is also kinda amusing, google, amazon and microsoft themselves all do the same shit.

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« Reply #18210 on: June 22, 2020, 04:07:49 PM »
People are literally dying crying



Still got a cool hundo in donations though :success

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« Reply #18211 on: June 22, 2020, 04:08:48 PM »
People are literally dying crying

(Image removed from quote.)

Still got a cool hundo in donations though :success
Same energy
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« Reply #18212 on: June 22, 2020, 04:10:21 PM »
I wish I could have been a titty streamer  :-\

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« Reply #18213 on: June 22, 2020, 04:11:47 PM »
I wish I could have been a titty streamer  :-\
So does Donald Trump

easier than being president and a bigger pay off
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« Reply #18214 on: June 22, 2020, 04:19:31 PM »
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So instead of bringing justice and creating a better work environment that clearly affected the quality of Mixer since it was failing and I’m sure a toxic work environment contributed to that....Phil just decided in a day I’m just gonna sell it off?

Seriously? Like the answer is we’ll just bury the issue? That tells me that the Xbox division is riddled with this still because they’re not addressing the issue they just want it gone.

I mean...jeez. I was already escaping the Microsoft ecosystem when I learned they were helping ICE but I’m running now full sprint. Any company that helps with mass oppression is bound to be like this. No exceptions.

Yep, these transactions involving two mega corporations just take one day

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« Reply #18215 on: June 22, 2020, 04:28:48 PM »
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understand the temptation to screenshot Mixer streamers at their lowest of lows, but please think twice about it, especially since it is not unlikely to be re-used on other less moderated platforms.

Sorry  :-\

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« Reply #18217 on: June 22, 2020, 04:41:42 PM »
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This is why I can no longer support the Xbox brand in general. Microsoft just throws money away when they can fund studios to make games like TLOU and Horizon.

:gamer

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« Reply #18218 on: June 22, 2020, 04:46:52 PM »
It's 2020, all companies have a terrible reputation


I technically own Monsanto stock.   :doge

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« Reply #18219 on: June 22, 2020, 04:53:52 PM »
Mixer is still there by default. I never bothered to remove it. Looks like my laziness paid off. :success

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« Reply #18220 on: June 22, 2020, 04:56:21 PM »
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« Reply #18221 on: June 22, 2020, 04:59:22 PM »
Sony ponies will freak out Facebook just bought Ready at Dawn lmao
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« Reply #18222 on: June 22, 2020, 04:59:31 PM »
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Apologies for the delay -- we had to wait for Asian staff to become available for some of these reports. There are some thorny intersectional issues at play in this thread that we need to cover before reopening. Many posters are disappointed about the ARMS rep *not* being Twintelle, as the game doesn't have much in the way of black or brown representation, and at this point that lack is fairly egregious. We banned a number of posts dismissing the idea that black representation in a game like this is a reasonable thing to expect and we would like to make it clear: It is.

The second issue is Min Min, a character with a Chinese name who speaks her lines in Chinese, and who is clearly Chinese-themed in a way that other Asian Smash characters are not. There are gamers who identify with Min Min and feel represented by her, especially at this time of increasing xenophobia and tensions towards China. This representation has value too, and dismissing that is also not okay.

Bork never waited for me when he issues a ban.  :maf

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« Reply #18223 on: June 22, 2020, 05:13:09 PM »
I expect a significant portion of the Xbox experience will be part of or involve Facebook by 2025 or so.
Microsoft Teams probably made more money in 2 months than Xbox did its entire lifetime.

Nothing about the Xbox business seems to be a good return of investment ever.
It's just a matter of time before they drop it but unlike selling wholesale to Amazon like Mattrick wanted,  it'll be a slow burn transition towards Facebook.
Where Microsoft does the content(TM) and Facebook the social stuff.

Those 'boxes', at this point AMD might as well develop and sell those themselves.
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« Reply #18224 on: June 22, 2020, 05:15:35 PM »
Well yeah, or something to that effect.

Overall, I think its a good bet. Not necessarily for Facebook but more for Instagram.
I'm thinking Oculus. Mixer as a VR streaming service is much more interesting than just another Twitch clone.
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« Reply #18225 on: June 22, 2020, 05:16:34 PM »
Think about how many insta thots will branch out to gaming instead of hawking makeup or sportswear.

Watching your favorite insta thottie while playing some Halo Wars 2 via xcloud :lawd

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« Reply #18226 on: June 22, 2020, 05:21:10 PM »
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understand the temptation to screenshot Mixer streamers at their lowest of lows, but please think twice about it, especially since it is not unlikely to be re-used on other less moderated platforms.

Sorry  :-\

now imagine if the moderators thought twice about the embarrassing bans they hand out and how the screenshots make their progressive utopia look to the outside world  :doge
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« Reply #18227 on: June 22, 2020, 05:23:53 PM »
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This is why I can no longer support the Xbox brand in general. Microsoft just throws money away when they can fund studios to make games like TLOU and Horizon.

:gamer

Fable had more organic and believable sex scenes in 2004 than the Schindlers List of Gaming does in [INSERT_CURRENT_YEAR]

:kermit

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« Reply #18228 on: June 22, 2020, 05:24:30 PM »
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understand the temptation to screenshot Mixer streamers at their lowest of lows, but please think twice about it, especially since it is not unlikely to be re-used on other less moderated platforms.

Sorry  :-\

now imagine if the moderators thought twice about the embarrassing bans they hand out and how the screenshots make their progressive utopia look to the outside world  :doge

Sorry  :-\
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« Reply #18229 on: June 22, 2020, 05:30:34 PM »
I expect a significant portion of the Xbox experience will be part of or involve Facebook by 2025 or so.
Microsoft Teams probably made more money in 2 months than Xbox did its entire lifetime.

Nothing about the Xbox business seems to be a good return of investment ever.
It's just a matter of time before they drop it but unlike selling wholesale to Amazon like Mattrick wanted,  it'll be a slow burn transition towards Facebook.

All this because MS wanted to get rid of Mixer and the only company that even makes any sense for them is Facebook?

(the other big players are owned by their massive competitors in the cloud space)
Microsoft is transitioning away from a focus of selling boxes towards xCloud and focusing more on Xbox GamePass and content.
Facebook has the social media networks locked down with Instagram and Facebook and Xbox Avatars and such are child's play compared to those massive eco systems.
Oculus is growing in the mainstream VR space and will likely introduce AR as well.

Outside of LinkedIn and Mixer Microsoft doesn't have a social media network or streaming service.
They have a bunch of video game IP's they 'bought' like Minecraft and Gears of War but that's all.
The only thing they've built up over the past 2 decades with multiple bumps along the road are HALO, Xbox Live and a viable marketplace for third party publishers.

Whatever they're building now with all those newly acquired studios is not aimed at being a third place hardware vendor again and outgunning PS5 with 2TF or Forza looking a tiny bit better than GT7 is not going to make a dent.
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« Reply #18230 on: June 22, 2020, 05:35:14 PM »
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Apologies for the delay -- we had to wait for Asian staff to become available for some of these reports. There are some thorny intersectional issues at play in this thread that we need to cover before reopening. Many posters are disappointed about the ARMS rep *not* being Twintelle, as the game doesn't have much in the way of black or brown representation, and at this point that lack is fairly egregious. We banned a number of posts dismissing the idea that black representation in a game like this is a reasonable thing to expect and we would like to make it clear: It is.

The second issue is Min Min, a character with a Chinese name who speaks her lines in Chinese, and who is clearly Chinese-themed in a way that other Asian Smash characters are not. There are gamers who identify with Min Min and feel represented by her, especially at this time of increasing xenophobia and tensions towards China. This representation has value too, and dismissing that is also not okay.

Bork never waited for me when he issues a ban.  :maf

Really? Does Asian mods feel identified with a cartoony Green/Blonde Chinese girl that knows Kung Fu and has a Noddle restaurant?

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« Reply #18231 on: June 22, 2020, 05:37:33 PM »
I wish I could have been a titty streamer  :-\

You are in luck:


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« Reply #18232 on: June 22, 2020, 05:38:45 PM »
The VTuber market is propped up by Joe Molotov alone. Once he is out of cash the market dies.

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« Reply #18233 on: June 22, 2020, 05:39:45 PM »
Love the way “POC” was used to smooth over Black erasure here just as it is in real life.

Min Min looks cool, but it would have been nice to see Smash embrace the Black community the way the Black community embraces Smash.

Be mad about black erasure while erasing asians

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« Reply #18234 on: June 22, 2020, 05:42:58 PM »
The VTuber market is propped up by Joe Molotov alone. Once he is out of cash the market dies.

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« Reply #18235 on: June 22, 2020, 05:44:45 PM »
The explicitly tokenist demands in that smash bros thread just suggests to me that someone could make a patreon fortune with an ENB style graphics injector that just changes main character skintones in games without giving a single fuck about what sense it makes because all that matters is you now have a "black" main character.

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« Reply #18236 on: June 22, 2020, 05:46:36 PM »
The explicitly tokenist demands in that smash bros thread just suggests to me that someone could make a patreon fortune with an ENB style graphics injector that just changes main character skintones in games without giving a single fuck about what sense it makes because all that matters is you now have a "black" main character.

When will Disney finally be brave enough to release "Frozen: Black edition"


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« Reply #18238 on: June 22, 2020, 05:59:56 PM »
I thought mixer was kinda cool, but the writing was on the wall for a while. Nobody used it even when it was baked in into the xbox ui

Which is why the Ninja buy-out was fucking distinguished mentally-challenged.

Naydella needs to be fired and replaced by someone that'll take his mantra of focusing on Windows (which is  fucking mess with their QA'ing) and Azure (which is a legit competitor now to AWS and Google) and do just that. Stop buying stupid shit like Mixer and let shit like their AR hardware die.

Focus on:

  • Windows
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  • X-box (barely)
  • Surface line
  • Office (365)

Anything else is dumb.

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« Reply #18239 on: June 22, 2020, 06:00:14 PM »
Are... are people trying to say Minecraft guy is a black dude?

did notch get uncancelled?