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Hes not doing much roasting now.
He's digging a hole right now. And it doesn't seem to stop
So reset doesn't have a Cyberpunk thread because it's apparently transphobic??
Quote from: Cindi Mayweather on December 07, 2020, 06:34:28 PMSo wait, I can actually be trans in Cypberpunk? Like I can actually make a character and make the gender transsexual? Holy fuck. I have never been able to do that. Finally, representation.No, no, no, no, CINDI, there was an ad with a dick in it! Made by a lesbian! You can't! Don't betray your people!
So wait, I can actually be trans in Cypberpunk? Like I can actually make a character and make the gender transsexual? Holy fuck. I have never been able to do that. Finally, representation.
The situation surrounding the OT is being discussed at the moment but there is likely to be something posted in the near future.For now it would be appreciated if the topic of conversation could stay around the transphobia in the game or from CDPR, including parts of reviews that touch on these aspects. You can find examples of these here.If you are interested in supporting trans people in Poland directly please consider donating to Trans-Fuzja here. If you wish for something more local then the US has The Trevor Project and the UK has Mermaids. For other countries if you post looking for a recommendation I'm sure some people will be able to assist.If you wish to join the new Cyberpunk 2077 Discord to discuss the game, please PM --R for an invite.
Ian talked about the issues briefly at one of the podcasts and the allies seemed to agree so i kinda expected something. Was really suprsied there wasn't any and they were just hyping the game for 40 minutes.
Quote from: Cindi Mayweather on December 07, 2020, 06:37:11 PMSo reset doesn't have a Cyberpunk thread because it's apparently transphobic??Pretty much
Quote from: benjipwns on December 07, 2020, 06:36:09 PMQuote from: Cindi Mayweather on December 07, 2020, 06:34:28 PMSo wait, I can actually be trans in Cypberpunk? Like I can actually make a character and make the gender transsexual? Holy fuck. I have never been able to do that. Finally, representation.No, no, no, no, CINDI, there was an ad with a dick in it! Made by a lesbian! You can't! Don't betray your people!How bad do you think Cyberpunk will be on ps4? I don't have a ps5
Quote from: KyuujiThe situation surrounding the OT is being discussed at the moment but there is likely to be something posted in the near future.For now it would be appreciated if the topic of conversation could stay around the transphobia in the game or from CDPR, including parts of reviews that touch on these aspects. You can find examples of these here.If you are interested in supporting trans people in Poland directly please consider donating to Trans-Fuzja here. If you wish for something more local then the US has The Trevor Project and the UK has Mermaids. For other countries if you post looking for a recommendation I'm sure some people will be able to assist.If you wish to join the new Cyberpunk 2077 Discord to discuss the game, please PM --R for an invite.
Quote from: Cindi Mayweather on December 07, 2020, 06:38:46 PMQuote from: benjipwns on December 07, 2020, 06:36:09 PMQuote from: Cindi Mayweather on December 07, 2020, 06:34:28 PMSo wait, I can actually be trans in Cypberpunk? Like I can actually make a character and make the gender transsexual? Holy fuck. I have never been able to do that. Finally, representation.No, no, no, no, CINDI, there was an ad with a dick in it! Made by a lesbian! You can't! Don't betray your people!How bad do you think Cyberpunk will be on ps4? I don't have a ps5 Pro or regular? May be playable on Pro.
so they're blacklisting one of the biggest releases of the year? Surely there's a medium between engaging the content and critiquing and not outright banning discussion?
Quote from: Ghoul on December 07, 2020, 06:38:26 PMQuote from: Cindi Mayweather on December 07, 2020, 06:37:11 PMSo reset doesn't have a Cyberpunk thread because it's apparently transphobic??Pretty much(Image removed from quote.)so they're blacklisting one of the biggest releases of the year? Surely there's a medium between engaging the content and critiquing and not outright banning discussion?
Are we pissbaby land or chud world?
Quote from: benjipwns on December 07, 2020, 06:40:32 PMQuote from: KyuujiThe situation surrounding the OT is being discussed at the moment but there is likely to be something posted in the near future.For now it would be appreciated if the topic of conversation could stay around the transphobia in the game or from CDPR, including parts of reviews that touch on these aspects. You can find examples of these here.If you are interested in supporting trans people in Poland directly please consider donating to Trans-Fuzja here. If you wish for something more local then the US has The Trevor Project and the UK has Mermaids. For other countries if you post looking for a recommendation I'm sure some people will be able to assist.If you wish to join the new Cyberpunk 2077 Discord to discuss the game, please PM --R for an invite.But if I'm on discord to discuss Cyberpunk why would I need Reset? Doesn't this literally make their forum redundant?
Hasan Piker : "This game has at least made accomodations to trans people"Ok I take back what I said. This dude doesn't have a clue what he's saying and is just kneejerking reactions without thinking or reading through things properly. Hype has gone to his head and he's become defensive over Cyberpunk 2077. Some lefties just don't get intersectionality
I had to turn it off because listening to that indignant anger he gets when he feels like his chat is calling him out too much was giving me anxiety. He's still going?
Quote from: Don Rumata on December 07, 2020, 06:42:03 PMQuote from: Cindi Mayweather on December 07, 2020, 06:38:46 PMQuote from: benjipwns on December 07, 2020, 06:36:09 PMQuote from: Cindi Mayweather on December 07, 2020, 06:34:28 PMSo wait, I can actually be trans in Cypberpunk? Like I can actually make a character and make the gender transsexual? Holy fuck. I have never been able to do that. Finally, representation.No, no, no, no, CINDI, there was an ad with a dick in it! Made by a lesbian! You can't! Don't betray your people!How bad do you think Cyberpunk will be on ps4? I don't have a ps5 Pro or regular? May be playable on Pro.I have a regular and I don't see the point in getting a pro now because ps5 plays ps4 games better.
All the nerds love Demons Souls right? Theres a quote from that game that I ended up loving a lot ironically"You have a heart of gold, don't let them take it from you"Thats so true its crazy. Defend yourselves fiercely and boldly. Defend your identity. Defend your love. Thats your birthright. You are allowed to be happy, You are allowed to love yourself, and you are allowed to fight for that. Ill get in a lil trouble here cuz it might square with ERA's hostility clause, but you are not entitled to give ANYONE who doesn't respect you ANY respect in return. Respect is earned, not granted. And there are quite a few topics that simply are NOT up for discussion. Your safety and livelihood is one of them. When the chads come JAQing off in threads, they don't deserve benefit of the doubt with no work. Its quite honestly a tell sign of someone trying to thread the needle of civility and antagonization. Clearly with the current events, we've seen just how damn effective it can be and you can combat that just by being vigilant.
But if I'm on discord to discuss Cyberpunk why would I need Reset? Doesn't this literally make their forum redundant?
https://www.resetera.com/threads/cdpr-is-a-transphobic-company-its-time-we-stop-making-excuses-for-them.307474/post-53426071Quote from: DigitalOpWhat's going on y'all,What an absolute utter shitshow. I got caught up and quite simply, I'm not surprised. Not the least bit in regards to how this further broke down entirely. Im know some of you feel hurt and you shouldn't have had to deal with all the anxiety and trolling thats been going on in the past 48Hrs. Idk how much Im able to contribute in regards to advice but having dealt with this type of internet animosity before I wanted to share some experience Ive gained and hopefully that can possibly help us all get past this and back to enjoying your browsing time on the site- Make a Discord and hunker downI know you have a TransERA Community thread and Im unaware if you all have made a discord in conjunction to it. I highly suggest doing so as it will allow you all to consolidate your community and protect yourselves further from extraneous animosity. You all are well aware of the more visible posters who represent your community so start there and start working your way out. Start with the people that actually post in your Community OT or even this thread and do whatever you need to do to keep that circle tight. Sometimes its tough to question an account that nobody is familiar with and not wanting be exclusionary but you have to be vigilant against the "troll spies" who look to document and post on other sites. Your peace of mind is worth more than that. Rely on the users you know you can trust and allow newer unfamiliar users to build that trust. A good way of doing that is maybe having a policy where you must be present in the TransOT for a certain amount of time before graduating to the Discord. After a while you will build a solid coalition of posters who can support each other and you'll only be more stronger for it- Open a dialogue with the ERA modsThis is the hardest suggestion to make right now because the wounds are fresh as hell and I can feel the anger behind the situation. I was in the exact same place once before and angry with how moderation was set up but over time I was able to realize that they don't want to see the site in this manner either and the last thing they would want is shit breaking down because it would make their efforts pointless. simply put, the mods fucked up with this. Ill say it again, the mods fucked up. And it doesn't help with there being a history of this leading up to the current silly shit going on. Allow them to take the steps to repair the damage, allow them to prove to y'all that they are willing and able to foster a better community so the bullshit doesn't happen again. It looks like Kyuuji does have that line of contact and that should be a hard established link moving forward. I saw Android Sophia post about how heartbroken she was over this not only being a mod but also a member of your community and thats the exact person you need to establish your bridge. Every community on ERA should have a mod representative of that community. Remember the Discord? Sophia should be a part of that and the you'll have line of direct contact if you were to have any questions or spitball ideas about how you all can move forward. I know right now its tough to try to establish that trust, I totally understand that. I don't expect that to come back today, tommorrow, or next Tuesday. But what you all should know is that you do have support on the other side and people advocating for your success. Bring them closer and push them to represent your needs.- Don't take visits to Pissbaby Land and ChudWorldIts a symptom of palace intrigue and you'll feel inclined just by pure curiosity to take a look at what the pissbabys are up to. Its not worth it. I tell you from experience. I even went with my own name and they were so fucking dumb they didn't even believe it was me. Theres nothing there for you, and you'll just be subjecting yourself to their whining and written filth they spew. Your mental health is worth more than that. Don't bring their filth to ERA threads because quite simply, they aren't worth an ounce of your time or energy. Not a speck of it. Whats the smallest molecule of matter? A Quark? They aren't worth a fucking quark of your energy. These are miserable fucking people who virtually have nothing going for them but these video games and the culture it breeds. Their bullshit president is out (even he's losing his fucking mind), More and more people speak out against their bullshit, and the world continues to become more and more diverse, Along with the gaming community that they want to hide away in because they can't handle reality. They are raging, throwing anything against the wall to make something stick. Thats how pathetic they are. Don't entertain that. Combat them here, let them come to you and embarrass themselves to get that one post off before a perm. Let them waste their time with VPNS and sign up processes. This is a long haul, and while things are a lil hectic over on this side, look where the hell they are, failing websites and hate holes where they endlessly cry about another website they stalk daily. How fucking sad.- Don't Give UpThe only possible goal that chuds could possibly organize for is to cause you strife. Everything they do is for the purpose of making you feel small, but none of you are small. Quite the opposite, you'll have some of the biggest hearts on the planet and that equals power. Thats why it pained me to see some of you lend so much good faith to obvious shitbirds that try to mess you. There was times I was ready to walk from the site, but what really kept me was thinking about all the people who don't have accounts, who read these boards and see these messages of support. Thats worth it to me, if it can make someone who feels alone in the world find comfort that there are others willing to fight for them.All the nerds love Demons Souls right? Theres a quote from that game that I ended up loving a lot ironically"You have a heart of gold, don't let them take it from you"Thats so true its crazy. Defend yourselves fiercely and boldly. Defend your identity. Defend your love. Thats your birthright. You are allowed to be happy, You are allowed to love yourself, and you are allowed to fight for that. Ill get in a lil trouble here cuz it might square with ERA's hostility clause, but you are not entitled to give ANYONE who doesn't respect you ANY respect in return. Respect is earned, not granted. And there are quite a few topics that simply are NOT up for discussion. Your safety and livelihood is one of them. When the chads come JAQing off in threads, they don't deserve benefit of the doubt with no work. Its quite honestly a tell sign of someone trying to thread the needle of civility and antagonization. Clearly with the current events, we've seen just how damn effective it can be and you can combat that just by being vigilant.Here's a way to look at it. Like a teacher and a student with a math problem.If the student comes to the teacher and says "I can't sove this problem" and show them a blank paper, well..... you didn't even try. You usually get a 0 for that. Theres a wealth of resources on this web to educate ones self or get a primer before looking for outside assistance.However, if that student shows the teacher a paper full of math work, even thought the answer may be wrong, we can see exactly what steps were taken and where the student may have went wrong or what specific part they don't understand. They showed effort. They showed faith in themselves to try to understand an issue without being spooned the answer. That student always gets credit. Because student showed effort.Let people show you effort before you indulge them. And if they rebuke what is being told to them immediately after they just inquired about it, thats another tell, a frankly common oneAnyway lemme not drone on and on but I felt it would be worth sharing this knowledge with you all. Things will get better, just stay frosty. Remain vigilant and most importantly, protect your peace. That has value, all of you have value. Id press a button and delete every video game on earth if it meant transpeople could finally live in acceptance and peace (Losing Animal crossing would suck but its a no brainer lol😂)Holla at me if you me, PM or Discord, Ill always have your back, and Ima keep reading and staying up on whats going on here. Much love
What's going on y'all,What an absolute utter shitshow. I got caught up and quite simply, I'm not surprised. Not the least bit in regards to how this further broke down entirely. Im know some of you feel hurt and you shouldn't have had to deal with all the anxiety and trolling thats been going on in the past 48Hrs. Idk how much Im able to contribute in regards to advice but having dealt with this type of internet animosity before I wanted to share some experience Ive gained and hopefully that can possibly help us all get past this and back to enjoying your browsing time on the site- Make a Discord and hunker downI know you have a TransERA Community thread and Im unaware if you all have made a discord in conjunction to it. I highly suggest doing so as it will allow you all to consolidate your community and protect yourselves further from extraneous animosity. You all are well aware of the more visible posters who represent your community so start there and start working your way out. Start with the people that actually post in your Community OT or even this thread and do whatever you need to do to keep that circle tight. Sometimes its tough to question an account that nobody is familiar with and not wanting be exclusionary but you have to be vigilant against the "troll spies" who look to document and post on other sites. Your peace of mind is worth more than that. Rely on the users you know you can trust and allow newer unfamiliar users to build that trust. A good way of doing that is maybe having a policy where you must be present in the TransOT for a certain amount of time before graduating to the Discord. After a while you will build a solid coalition of posters who can support each other and you'll only be more stronger for it- Open a dialogue with the ERA modsThis is the hardest suggestion to make right now because the wounds are fresh as hell and I can feel the anger behind the situation. I was in the exact same place once before and angry with how moderation was set up but over time I was able to realize that they don't want to see the site in this manner either and the last thing they would want is shit breaking down because it would make their efforts pointless. simply put, the mods fucked up with this. Ill say it again, the mods fucked up. And it doesn't help with there being a history of this leading up to the current silly shit going on. Allow them to take the steps to repair the damage, allow them to prove to y'all that they are willing and able to foster a better community so the bullshit doesn't happen again. It looks like Kyuuji does have that line of contact and that should be a hard established link moving forward. I saw Android Sophia post about how heartbroken she was over this not only being a mod but also a member of your community and thats the exact person you need to establish your bridge. Every community on ERA should have a mod representative of that community. Remember the Discord? Sophia should be a part of that and the you'll have line of direct contact if you were to have any questions or spitball ideas about how you all can move forward. I know right now its tough to try to establish that trust, I totally understand that. I don't expect that to come back today, tommorrow, or next Tuesday. But what you all should know is that you do have support on the other side and people advocating for your success. Bring them closer and push them to represent your needs.- Don't take visits to Pissbaby Land and ChudWorldIts a symptom of palace intrigue and you'll feel inclined just by pure curiosity to take a look at what the pissbabys are up to. Its not worth it. I tell you from experience. I even went with my own name and they were so fucking dumb they didn't even believe it was me. Theres nothing there for you, and you'll just be subjecting yourself to their whining and written filth they spew. Your mental health is worth more than that. Don't bring their filth to ERA threads because quite simply, they aren't worth an ounce of your time or energy. Not a speck of it. Whats the smallest molecule of matter? A Quark? They aren't worth a fucking quark of your energy. These are miserable fucking people who virtually have nothing going for them but these video games and the culture it breeds. Their bullshit president is out (even he's losing his fucking mind), More and more people speak out against their bullshit, and the world continues to become more and more diverse, Along with the gaming community that they want to hide away in because they can't handle reality. They are raging, throwing anything against the wall to make something stick. Thats how pathetic they are. Don't entertain that. Combat them here, let them come to you and embarrass themselves to get that one post off before a perm. Let them waste their time with VPNS and sign up processes. This is a long haul, and while things are a lil hectic over on this side, look where the hell they are, failing websites and hate holes where they endlessly cry about another website they stalk daily. How fucking sad.- Don't Give UpThe only possible goal that chuds could possibly organize for is to cause you strife. Everything they do is for the purpose of making you feel small, but none of you are small. Quite the opposite, you'll have some of the biggest hearts on the planet and that equals power. Thats why it pained me to see some of you lend so much good faith to obvious shitbirds that try to mess you. There was times I was ready to walk from the site, but what really kept me was thinking about all the people who don't have accounts, who read these boards and see these messages of support. Thats worth it to me, if it can make someone who feels alone in the world find comfort that there are others willing to fight for them.All the nerds love Demons Souls right? Theres a quote from that game that I ended up loving a lot ironically"You have a heart of gold, don't let them take it from you"Thats so true its crazy. Defend yourselves fiercely and boldly. Defend your identity. Defend your love. Thats your birthright. You are allowed to be happy, You are allowed to love yourself, and you are allowed to fight for that. Ill get in a lil trouble here cuz it might square with ERA's hostility clause, but you are not entitled to give ANYONE who doesn't respect you ANY respect in return. Respect is earned, not granted. And there are quite a few topics that simply are NOT up for discussion. Your safety and livelihood is one of them. When the chads come JAQing off in threads, they don't deserve benefit of the doubt with no work. Its quite honestly a tell sign of someone trying to thread the needle of civility and antagonization. Clearly with the current events, we've seen just how damn effective it can be and you can combat that just by being vigilant.Here's a way to look at it. Like a teacher and a student with a math problem.If the student comes to the teacher and says "I can't sove this problem" and show them a blank paper, well..... you didn't even try. You usually get a 0 for that. Theres a wealth of resources on this web to educate ones self or get a primer before looking for outside assistance.However, if that student shows the teacher a paper full of math work, even thought the answer may be wrong, we can see exactly what steps were taken and where the student may have went wrong or what specific part they don't understand. They showed effort. They showed faith in themselves to try to understand an issue without being spooned the answer. That student always gets credit. Because student showed effort.Let people show you effort before you indulge them. And if they rebuke what is being told to them immediately after they just inquired about it, thats another tell, a frankly common oneAnyway lemme not drone on and on but I felt it would be worth sharing this knowledge with you all. Things will get better, just stay frosty. Remain vigilant and most importantly, protect your peace. That has value, all of you have value. Id press a button and delete every video game on earth if it meant transpeople could finally live in acceptance and peace (Losing Animal crossing would suck but its a no brainer lol😂)Holla at me if you me, PM or Discord, Ill always have your back, and Ima keep reading and staying up on whats going on here. Much love
Cyberpunk 2077 OT will be going up by the end of the day. I'll personally be the one to post it myself. Please bear with me as I'm working around a real life schedule here. When it does go up, we will be setting some ground rules for the thread to ensure everything goes smoothly.A separate review metascore thread will not be happening as we wish to limit the number of threads on this game. Reviews can be discussed in the OT.Please keep this thread on the topic of CDPR's transphobia. Thank you.
It honestly saddens me to see how some people are acting in this topic, coming in here to troll and post reviews and crap takes in a time where shit like that just DOES NOT MATTER , Reviews gameplay impressions all of that shit does not matter at all right now and it can honestly wait. What MATTERS right now is our Trans-community they are hurting right now they need us to listen to them to give them our undying support. They need us to just be there for them and to listen to them right now during a time where they need to be heard so I am going to put this next part in nice big bold text for new people coming into the topic that have been redirected here.Talk about reviews, gameplay and etc can wait right now, please try to reframe from it and instead give an honest to god listen to our trans-community here.
Quote from: Cindi Mayweather on December 07, 2020, 06:42:38 PMQuote from: Don Rumata on December 07, 2020, 06:42:03 PMQuote from: Cindi Mayweather on December 07, 2020, 06:38:46 PMQuote from: benjipwns on December 07, 2020, 06:36:09 PMQuote from: Cindi Mayweather on December 07, 2020, 06:34:28 PMSo wait, I can actually be trans in Cypberpunk? Like I can actually make a character and make the gender transsexual? Holy fuck. I have never been able to do that. Finally, representation.No, no, no, no, CINDI, there was an ad with a dick in it! Made by a lesbian! You can't! Don't betray your people!How bad do you think Cyberpunk will be on ps4? I don't have a ps5 Pro or regular? May be playable on Pro.I have a regular and I don't see the point in getting a pro now because ps5 plays ps4 games better. Exactly where I'm at. Heard it runs terrible on base consoles.Gonna wait for the actual PS5 version (and whenever the fuck i get a PS5 )
Disappointed that an OT will happen again.
what else need to be said, they really trying it and its fucking pathetic. There are way to many unhealthy nerdboys pushing the limit on this site, the good news is at least they are getting purged
The fact that CDPR has managed to fool so many cis people into thinking genitals are the first step of trans rep is part of their lack of understanding, not an attempt at representation.
Some minorities want to discuss the game. We should give them a safe space to do so, but on the terms of those affected.
This is like if a thread was made for "famous music artist was just apprehended for the murder of 5 individuals", and people are jumping into that thread posting reviews of their latest album."But I just want to discuss famous music artist's music!"
QuoteCyberpunk 2077 OT will be going up by the end of the day. I'll personally be the one to post it myself. Please bear with me as I'm working around a real life schedule here. When it does go up, we will be setting some ground rules for the thread to ensure everything goes smoothly.A separate review metascore thread will not be happening as we wish to limit the number of threads on this game. Reviews can be discussed in the OT.Please keep this thread on the topic of CDPR's transphobia. Thank you.Android Sophia has announced an OTI give them 5 minutes before Kyuuji and the gang show up to fuck it up and then cry they are being ignored.
Trans lives matter more than game reviews/discussion. The fact that this thread is open while others are getting closed should be a reminder that the content of this game hurts the trans community, and this matters far more than any other discussion you could possibly have about CP2077 at this point.
I wasn't aware Technobabylon had a trans main character. Bought!
I hope the OT will be heavily moderated and "civility" won't be used as a shield for thinly veiled transphobia.
Days like this, feel it's a real shame that most of the more critical games sites have moved away from scored reviews.
I don't know a single tran that gives a fuck about any of this and all my gamer trans friends (which is...a lot) are excited. Then I come to a random visit to the bore and Nintex is talking about some Reset exodus and the Reset trans people are demanding a forum wide boycott.It's like their interests are completely different than the average trans. It's baffling stuff.People who are witnessing this please don't think badly of trans people or the lgbt community because of ResetEra. Please don't.
You don't need an OT.Make a staff post that says that this thread is only for discussion of this topic, and any other discussion about the game will result in a ban.If people can't read a staff post in this thread, having this magical paragraph in the OT won't do a damn thing either.After yesterday's clusterfuck, the least they could do would be banning discussion of the game. And don't hide behind "We want to provide a space for marginalized members to discuss their experiences with the game."Set up a Discord and actually moderate it.Why MUST the game be discussed on site, unless the only true concern is how many clicks/ad views it will get?
are there any popular streamers who WON'T be playing this due to the transphobic reputation the game is carrying?I'm not sure I've seen a single one say they won't touch it out of solidarity for the trans community.
QuoteDays like this, feel it's a real shame that most of the more critical games sites have moved away from scored reviews.
Imagine these kind of people involved with your human rights. I fear people like this could create a massive cis backlash.(Image removed from quote.)
But come hell or high water, we're gonna get that OT, I suppose. Stay safe, everyone.
Yep, especially factoring in the incredibly poor state of the moderation going on. Having an OT like that handled properly is tricky proposition even with really good moderation, it's currently fucking unimaginable with the crew that just spent the last weekend vouching for a bigot while banning the people pointing out the bigot's shitty behavior over their tone.
Does anyone have any pictures of the ps5 sitting in an entertainment center without the ugly wings?
