Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread

[benjipwns]

Not sure that merging all CP2077 discussions in here is the efficient way... Maybe create at least a review thread?

The staff and trans community will decide on this.

There is a discord floating around that you can join if you want pure game discussion for now.

Maybe someone here knows the link, I don't have it myself.

Why is he telling someone to join the MAGAts on Discord? Is this Discord thing some kind of fascist recruitment website?

[Pwnz]

Preloaded Cyberpunk today.

I fully expect there to be all sorts of gratuitous body modding and it not be singularly focused on the trans community.  I feel like this being a dystopian future with cybernetic augmentation is completely lost on some people, they're entering a dystopian future where things presented aren't meant to be endorsed and take offense to things that trigger confirmation bias.

[Raist]

Gonna be tricky for mods to try and stop people demanding shinobi gets got because of something he tweeted when they literally just permed black chamber by the exact same fucking standard.

Problematic Tweets from 5 years ago or 5 days ago are OK, tweets from 2 years ago are

Note that this does not apply if you've directed a Mahvel movie.

It's not that hard to understand.

[HaughtyFrank]

User banned (duration tbd by admin review): concern trolling, instigating off-site drama, previously banned for attacking the community using alt-right troll rhetoric

Guy who posted the Shinobi tweet.

He was an alt right, don’t pay attention to him!

OR ELSE!

I looked it up and all he did was answer a question about why people claim that resetera was made by pedos

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ion-fury-devs-show-signs-of-transphobia-among-other-issues-update-voidpoint-apologizes-in-statement-see-threadmarks.135368/post-23780795

Initially this was even a perma but they cut it down to two weeks, probably understanding the context. To throw him under the bus now is amazing. Going by the rest of his posts he's clearly not alt-right

[Boredfrom]

.  Her review was magnificent. I'm really glad Polygon let her do their review. It shows that their editorial team have their minds in the right direction.

   I kinda wish it would have a numbered score, only so it would have a dent on the games' Metacritic score.

 

[Tuckers Law]

Not sure that merging all CP2077 discussions in here is the efficient way... Maybe create at least a review thread?

The staff and trans community will decide on this.

There is a discord floating around that you can join if you want pure game discussion for now.

Maybe someone here knows the link, I don't have it myself.

Why is he telling someone to join the MAGAts on Discord? Is this Discord thing some kind of fascist recruitment website?

Probably even worse: gamergate recruitment.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

User threadbanned, further action pending review: extreme hostility against another member (who was not participating in the thread) over multiple posts

unrelated: 8 or so fucking pages talking about how they want to get black chamber

[benjipwns]

That metacritic is an indictment on the entire industry. Only extreme ignorance or apathy can explain it.

[Nintex]

That was WW1, they even made a movie about it

As if "The Desert Fox" Erwin Rommel and Sir Bernard Law "Monty" Montgomery did not play a friendly round of fussball or two on the lines of Tripoli after a nice cup of tea.
Bringing much needed enjoyment and relief to the children of the desert before the Americans stuck their noses in what was but a friendly skirmish over a border dispute between neighbours

[Ghoul]

but he was pro bad game.... not pro bad game and ex staff.

[Pwnz]

Yeah, I saw one of those threads and they were talking about how bad the reviews are, and I went to metacritic and I was like wow, the bubble is strong.  I doubt it'll stay over Witcher 3 once it's all done, but still it's not shaping up to be a dud.

I've been avoiding discussion on the game in general because I want to go fresh, era's made it super easy to accomplish that goal.

[Boredfrom]

Carolyn Petit is the the journo that shilled hyper hard for the new Tomb Rider series of torture porn and said that Splatoon multiplayer was deep because “good guys win the match”.

[Mr. Nobody]

Who the fuck is Black Chamber? 

(Image removed from quote.)

in the grand tradition of gaf and era, game OTs are celebrated events that take hundreds of hours to put together full of massive gifs and walls of text (56k warning!)

cac chamber signed up to be the official OT creator for cyberpunk, a prestigious honor which as a total shill for the game he took very seriously

however as we know, cyberpunk is unabashedly transphobic, what with its pr guy who made an attack helicopter joke (the fact he was fired doesn't absolve the company) and its "mix it up" chromanticore in-game ad featuring a woman with what looks like a penis (the LGBT creator who designed it does not speak for all LGBT people)

in spite of months of abuse toward him, cac chamber was always polite, welcoming and kowtowing towards those who wanted his OT shut down, he agreed it should be closed in honor of trans remembrance day and did the dance required of him to show respect for era's outraged communities



finally, the other day people demanded to know whether his OT would feature a statement from the trans members of the site to reinforce that this game was only allowed discussion under protest, and he kept repeating that everyone would be welcome to the thread 💯, though not stating plainly that a statement would be included (it would be, he was already working with the mods on it)

mods defended him, and his politeness and welcoming nature only upset them further

he proposed on his own that he would take a one month ban in order to placate those who were upset...mods didn't want to ban him as he hadn't broken any rules, but he insisted!  which only made them hate him further, as he could just play the game in peace and enjoy it on with the cyberpunk discord, they wouldn't be able to make him flail while he was gone

they dug and kept digging, posting completely reasonable pms he had made, trying to get him got

finally they found a 2-year-old tweet that appeared to be maga-ish, at which point the house of cards tumbled, everyone disavowed him, b-dubs (he of the 5-year-old racist gaf posts) perma'd him and said they would be taking over the OT and was shocked and mortified at what had happened and they would be carefully moderating all discussion of cyberpunk

and now era is rapidly eating itself and witch hunting everyone who looks at them sideways, it's open season on digging up old and off-site bad behavior

 



oh and also kyuuji who spearheads the transphobia lynch mob maneuvered her outrage into a free key of the game, so she will be playing it "just to check out all the transphobia," having played era like a damn fiddle

 

[HaughtyFrank]

Funny how the mods instantly protect Shinobi

Considering how they let the "token" attacks against their trans mod slide and the way they sacrificed Royalan it's kind of a bad look.

[maninthemirror]

Carolyn Petit is the the journo that shilled hyper hard for the new Tomb Rider series of torture porn and said that Splatoon multiplayer was deep because “good guys win the match”.

You have to give her credit . She wrote an amazing review of how per personal feelings needed to be applied onto
The game regardless if the game was actually good without letting the reader know she was doing it . Bravo

[paprikastaude]

Please forgive us for letting in heinous traitor Black Chamber. You are free to stalk people on social media and report them to us if suspicious. 

*wild Shinobi appears shilling*

NO not him THATS OFFSITE DRAMA, get it?? STOP ASKING QUESTIONS WE ARE STILL IN CONTROL OMG SOMEONE HELP ME OUT HERE 

[Ghoul]

Super bold move on them to ban all other threads so anyone that wants to chat cyberpunk has to do so in an active warzone

[HaughtyFrank]

The HUMAN BEING EMOTIONS guy is upset

https://www.resetera.com/threads/requesting-a-permanent-ban-with-account-wipe-as-well.340147/

[ShutUp]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cdpr-is-a-transphobic-company-its-time-we-stop-making-excuses-for-them.307474/post-53410264

Lmao what a piece of fucking garbage. I'd love to hear their defense of this shit.

So tired of this bootlicking bullshit. I'm tired of being fuckin civil around here. There's no two sides to this shit.


IT'S A FUCKING VIDEO GAME.

HUMAN BEING EMOTIONS AND SAFETY IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN STUPID FUCKING TOYS

All because of Shinobis tweet hyping the game 

That post from the frontlines of the Gaming Forum. What a warrior

[Boredfrom]

Super bold move on them to ban all other threads so anyone that wants to chat cyberpunk has to do so in an active warzone

An actively malicious war zone.

But mods and admins can talk about it at twitter or discord.

[paprikastaude]

That metacritic is an indictment on the entire industry. Only extreme ignorance or apathy can explain it.

They are like Trump after the election omg ZERO self-reflection, as usual.

[HaughtyFrank]

That metacritic is an indictment on the entire industry. Only extreme ignorance or apathy can explain it.

They are like Trump after the election omg ZERO self-reflection, as usual.

"Could it be that we were wrong?"

"No, it's everybody else who is wrong"

[ShutUp]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cdpr-is-a-transphobic-company-its-time-we-stop-making-excuses-for-them.307474/page-92#post-53410714

This community just gone done nearly disentigrating over not being listened to by staff after calling out a dismissive “feel-good” poster who slobbered all over 2077 and ended up being a MAGA-hat wearing fascist in disguise.

Tensions are high as fuck, so you might be well served to read about what’s happened here.
 

That's right you fucking fascist bigot. You would do well to step lightly around us.

A mod straight up needs to find a pair somewhere and ask them what else they can possibly do to listen to them after all the stuff they've done.

[Boredfrom]

Funny how the mods instantly protect Shinobi

Considering how they let the "token" attacks against their trans mod slide and the way they sacrificed Royalan it's kind of a bad look.

I think Shinobi invested some money to the site? Or something like that and they can’t throw him under the bus.

[maninthemirror]

This is going to be a really frustrating week. I truly beg people who are coming into this thread for the first time to read the OP. The trans community here on Era has had a really rough time lately, and people need to focus not on tone policing or vilifying people for being frustrated, and please try to empathize with why people are so frustrated. Mods are clearly trying, though I think their judgement should be rightfully questioned especially after the BC debacle. Respect what this thread is about, and I hope you can gain some understanding about why this game and this company have hurt so many people.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cdpr-is-a-transphobic-company-its-time-we-stop-making-excuses-for-them.307474/post-53413132


You know.. maybe log off? Don’t partake in the threads ? Get help ? This is like a siren to a therapist

[maninthemirror]

Funny how the mods instantly protect Shinobi

Considering how they let the "token" attacks against their trans mod slide and the way they sacrificed Royalan it's kind of a bad look.

I think Shinobi invested some money to the site? Or something like that and they can’t throw him under the bus.

Shinobi is one of us. He knows the chaos and he still posted it. He knows. Man’s a legend

[benjipwns]

I think Shinobi invested some money to the site? Or something like that and they can’t throw him under the bus.

He sold it to Cerium, Cerium is the only owner now.

They still protect their own.

[Boredfrom]

I think Shinobi invested some money to the site? Or something like that and they can’t throw him under the bus.

He sold it to Cerium, Cerium is the only owner now.

Oh...

Then maybe he know something that RE would rather not talk about?

[benjipwns]

Remember how Ketkat revealed the staff discussions were very bigoted. Shinobi602's ugly racist kid was probably second in command under B-Dubs in leading these transphobic hate sessions.

[Tuckers Law]

The HUMAN BEING EMOTIONS guy is upset

https://www.resetera.com/threads/requesting-a-permanent-ban-with-account-wipe-as-well.340147/

The dramatics over a fucking perceived slight in a videogame!   

They're all over here like this

[maninthemirror]

Just so so tired of it all. And those blaming trans members can get fucked, I just wish this game and all the people who care more about it would just go away.

This website is my escape. Right now I am irl dealing with my therapist, trying to come out to my mother, and working on beginning the process of transition after Biden takes office, I actually wanted to do this earlier but thanks to trump and co making it legal for healthcare to discriminate and deny service I was worried that trying to transition could lead to me losing my disability and healthcare. So the last fucking thing I need when I come here to talk about games and comics is to defend my validity in my free time against shitheads who think a game is more important than people like me, and try to both sides us defending ourselves warily as “attacks”.

Personally I think it’s time to take a stand and start banning games like this, or admit the site doesn’t want to better. We keep losing trans members and it sucks, and people act like that’s okay in light of broader site traffic. Most of the major movers around here, most of the prominent members etc, are all part of the differing minority community’s (not just transgender) that keep getting g driven away. The concern is driving away traffic and “normal” users, but would they have done for this site what minority’s have. If you drove away the minority community’s you not only lose the site identity but a lot of the people that keep it active. Our identity and community’s should be more important important than a fucking entertainment product.

Nice to see Carolyn do a review though.

I am off to play some games and escape since I can’t do that here right now, even in the last few pages tons of posts trying to paint us as the problem, proof of the fact that transphobia is a general populace issue and not just relegated to Nazis and Conservatives.

I am really sad and dissapointed right now, and the worst part is half of it is because I have learned not to expect any better. Fuck.

Nevermind..THIS shows why the mental health system in this country is fucked up. You attach yourself emotionally to a FORUM and then refuse to let go of it while you think it abuses your mind because you need it? This person needs a new therapist .
Does this person not get that you choose which thread to open and which one not to ? If you don’t want to talk about this why not ... you know .. not talk about it and talk about other games. There are a gazillions threads on other games. NO one is forcing you to partake in this discussion. Yet here you are.

[BIONIC]

I'm nonbinary, trans, and a biohacker who has had major chemical and non-standard surgical alterations done to my body. I've mostly been lurking this thread.

For me the biggest problem with this game is that, as the Polygon review pointed out, the views of gender depicted in this game are implausible. There is no reasonable extrapolation either from 1988 or from 2020 that leads to the depiction of gender shown in this game -- even the most dystopic hyper-capitalist hellscapes would have made space for nonbinary and nontraditional identities in a less objectifying way than this game depicts.

This is a nuanced point and I think this makes the game transphobic at a very deep and fundamental level. And Cyberpunk isn't unique by any means here, a lot of science fiction has this problem. Where Cyberpunk is different in how it draws attention to itself in the most noxious ways.

Put another way, I personally am more cyberpunk here in 2020, than a game set in 2077.

I'm nonbinary, trans, and a biohacker who has had major chemical and non-standard surgical alterations done to my body.

[ShutUp]

Directing here made things much worse. That didn't need to be done, now it's just infested with concern trolls
The redirection was a reason at first, sure, but the review thread is all but buried at this point, so people are starting to show up here because it's the only thread about the game that's showing up on the first page. I truly think this was inevitable the moment discussion about the game was halted everywhere else.

I do think, however, that there should be a stickied, locked staff thread announcing that the discussion of the game is being reviewed by the staff for the time being, so people who never even glanced at this thread before don't show up here concerned only about where the review thread has gone.

Now they're about to make the only thread left VERBOTEN for other members 

why was this public tweet of shinobi602 removed?
i thought social media was going to be checked upon going forward
I guess not

sorry mods, you ain't gonna protect his ass. He's gonna have to show up to the trial.

The fact they actually think its fine to scour social media looking for any perceived slights is terrible.

Time to start digging through BASED MAHVEL actors Twitter feeds and see if they have anything juicy in their past. Then watch the backpedaling begin.

[Tuckers Law]

I'm nonbinary, trans, and a biohacker who has had major chemical and non-standard surgical alterations done to my body. I've mostly been lurking this thread.

For me the biggest problem with this game is that, as the Polygon review pointed out, the views of gender depicted in this game are implausible. There is no reasonable extrapolation either from 1988 or from 2020 that leads to the depiction of gender shown in this game -- even the most dystopic hyper-capitalist hellscapes would have made space for nonbinary and nontraditional identities in a less objectifying way than this game depicts.

This is a nuanced point and I think this makes the game transphobic at a very deep and fundamental level. And Cyberpunk isn't unique by any means here, a lot of science fiction has this problem. Where Cyberpunk is different in how it draws attention to itself in the most noxious ways.

Put another way, I personally am more cyberpunk here in 2020, than a game set in 2077.

I'm nonbinary, trans, and a biohacker who has had major chemical and non-standard surgical alterations done to my body.

I can't 

Which one of you posted that?   

[Averon]

How could anyone trust Shinobi if even he would sell out his own kid for clout?

[benjipwns]

Hobbes should be glad he's banned since his Twitter is full of things he could never post on ResetERA.com.

[benjipwns]

Hard not to read that Polygon review and not see that as what will be the prevailing opinion of the game ten years from now.

Let the great chud alt/low post account purge begin I guess.

[ShutUp]

even the most dystopic hyper-capitalist hellscapes would have made space for nonbinary and nontraditional identities in a less objectifying way than this game depicts.

cyberpunk
[ˈsībərˌpəNGk]
NOUN
a genre of science fiction set in a lawless subculture of an oppressive society dominated by computer technology.

Yes, definitely seems like a setting that wouldn't objectify whatever it wanted or needed to.

[ShutUp]

Hard not to read that Polygon review and not see that as what will be the prevailing opinion of the game ten years from now.

Let the great chud alt/low post account purge begin I guess.

In a sea of praise, this one mediocre review will be the beacon of light.

 

[benjipwns]

This is what happens when you deny the delinquents hype over their new game for a few hours.

You mean our new game don't you?

[Hermit]

Cyberpunk should've been a hellscape for CIS people. Everyone that identifies as something else would be shown as true icons and live in a lavish utopia above the clouds, unbothered by the grimey, crimeridden world below.

[tiesto]

I'm nonbinary, trans, and a biohacker who has had major chemical and non-standard surgical alterations done to my body. I've mostly been lurking this thread.

For me the biggest problem with this game is that, as the Polygon review pointed out, the views of gender depicted in this game are implausible. There is no reasonable extrapolation either from 1988 or from 2020 that leads to the depiction of gender shown in this game -- even the most dystopic hyper-capitalist hellscapes would have made space for nonbinary and nontraditional identities in a less objectifying way than this game depicts.

This is a nuanced point and I think this makes the game transphobic at a very deep and fundamental level. And Cyberpunk isn't unique by any means here, a lot of science fiction has this problem. Where Cyberpunk is different in how it draws attention to itself in the most noxious ways.

Put another way, I personally am more cyberpunk here in 2020, than a game set in 2077.

I'm nonbinary, trans, and a biohacker who has had major chemical and non-standard surgical alterations done to my body.

It was me, here's my pic:

[BisMarckie]

This is what happens when you deny the delinquents hype over their new game for a few hours.

You mean our new game don't you?

Ixnay on the eefray odecay.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

even the most dystopic hyper-capitalist hellscapes would have made space for nonbinary and nontraditional identities in a less objectifying way than this game depicts.

cyberpunk
[ˈsībərˌpəNGk]
NOUN
a genre of science fiction set in a lawless subculture of an oppressive society dominated by computer technology.

Yes, definitely seems like a setting that wouldn't objectify whatever it wanted or needed to.

If theres one thing that really defines computers, its non-binary

[Nintex]

[Ghoul]

You're not wrong, let's poop on gamers too. Consumerism got ya'll by the balls.

Urm gendered slurs, NOT IN MY THREAD!

[benjipwns]

Mentions of gamergate are apt. They're basically the perfect developer custom-built for the Trumpian, post-truth world, where having no moral or ethical compass is a marketable skill. "I'm not the snowflake, YOU'RE the snowflake!"... "I'm not the corporate shill, YOU'RE the corporate shill!" ... "I'm not triggered, YOU'RE triggered!"... "They're not actually transphobic, YOU'RE transphobic!" etc to infinity.
There is no reasoning with the people responsive to this stuff. To them, this game is "cyber = technology and punk = internet badass, like me!" and therefore must clearly the perfect product for them. It's not remotely in the spirit of the original IP--and in some cases is directly contrary to it--but, hey, minor details when a billion dollars is on the line. WOO-HOO FUTURE GTA!

[Ghoul]

keanu reeves better not turn up at the game awards....

[Nintex]

Woohoo future GTA starring John Wick from the Deus Ex Matrix

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cdpr-is-a-transphobic-company-its-time-we-stop-making-excuses-for-them.307474/post-53413132


You know.. maybe log off? Don’t partake in the threads ? Get help ? This is like a siren to a therapist

Posting is a human right my friend.

[Nintex]

keanu reeves better not turn up at the game awards....

He will, there's a Matrix 4 segment.

[ShutUp]

The triggered snowflakes bringing up the original IP and swinging and missing on what the original IP was. You love to see it.

Someone tell them Mike Pondsmith worked with CDPR on the story/lore aspect. Or does the original creator of the IP not count because reasons?

[Tasty]

If theres one thing that really defines computers, its non-binary

[Tasty]

keanu reeves better not turn up at the game awards....

He will, there's a Matrix 4 segment.

Says who?

[Uncle]

I'm nonbinary, trans, and a biohacker who has had major chemical and non-standard surgical alterations done to my body. I've mostly been lurking this thread.

For me the biggest problem with this game is that, as the Polygon review pointed out, the views of gender depicted in this game are implausible. There is no reasonable extrapolation either from 1988 or from 2020 that leads to the depiction of gender shown in this game -- even the most dystopic hyper-capitalist hellscapes would have made space for nonbinary and nontraditional identities in a less objectifying way than this game depicts.

This is a nuanced point and I think this makes the game transphobic at a very deep and fundamental level. And Cyberpunk isn't unique by any means here, a lot of science fiction has this problem. Where Cyberpunk is different in how it draws attention to itself in the most noxious ways.

Put another way, I personally am more cyberpunk here in 2020, than a game set in 2077.

I'm nonbinary, trans, and a biohacker who has had major chemical and non-standard surgical alterations done to my body.

For me the biggest problem with this game is that, as the Polygon review pointed out, the views of gender depicted in this game are implausible. There is no reasonable extrapolation either from 1988 or from 2020 that leads to the depiction of gender shown in this game -- even the most dystopic hyper-capitalist hellscapes would have made space for nonbinary and nontraditional identities in a less objectifying way than this game depicts.

"this fantasy game is INCREDIBLY unrealistic; as we know, cyberpunk prides itself on future-historical accuracy, and as it stands the game is completely inaccurate."

"now on the other hand, I thought I'd also mention how racist it is when game developers attempt to depict a historically accurate czech republic in 1403...like who are you trying to fool?  it's fantasy, you can change whatever you want, we see what you're doing with your dedication to 'accuracy'."

[Boredfrom]

even the most dystopic hyper-capitalist hellscapes would have made space for nonbinary and nontraditional identities in a less objectifying way than this game depicts.

    

That is naive as fuck.

[benjipwns]

User banned (permanent): Troll account

But I thought this was a videogame forum.

[BIONIC]

This is what happens when you deny the delinquents hype over their new game for a few hours.

You mean our new game don't you?

We made this joke hours ago. Keep up, tubby 

[ShutUp]

They really do think a Cyberpunk future is some glorious utopia where all problems have been solved and not a rather dark hellhole you really wouldn't want to live in.

[jorma]

I'm nonbinary, trans, and a biohacker who has had major chemical and non-standard surgical alterations done to my body.

as the Polygon review pointed out, the views of gender depicted in this game are implausible