Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread

[Boredfrom]

I find you guys are doing a huge oversimplification of a collection of regional problems, xenophobic discrimination and political opportunism that are older than all of us with “lol immigrants” and “fuck religion”.

The fact that this is attack was probably indirectly encouraged by a piss match by Erdogan... well...

[Cerveza mas fina]

Then please enlighten us how we shouldn't blame islam.

Why can other non-muslim minorities integrate somewhat over time without becoming terrorists?

Is there some other secret factors beyond religion and culture?

[HaughtyFrank]

Their views are NUANCED.

Compared to the last beheading thread? This one absolutely is, for the most part#

e: like there's no modpost fucking going "the victims were definitely bigots, and posters here saying that definitely aren't victim blaming"

It's funny how they were doing the whole "he was no angel" defense without even any evidence to base it on

[Boredfrom]

2020 is really bringing back my hatred of religion. 

yea, same.

I was taking a "to each their own" with beliefs, but now I'm actively annoyed.

 

She is one of the woke brigade, just to remind people.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

People aren't labels, and thinking of people as people is step one to not being a cunt

[Boredfrom]

Then please enlighten us how we shouldn't blame islam.

Why can other non-muslim minorities integrate somewhat over time without becoming terrorists?

 

You think every single Muslim in Europe is a potential terrorist?

[Cerveza mas fina]

Nope, plz quote where I say that

Just as I dont think all cops are bastards

But they do have a problem thats ingrained it seems and it needs to be looked at

[Cerveza mas fina]

People aren't labels, and thinking of people as people is step one to not being a cunt

Tell that t the terrorists mate

[Boredfrom]

People aren't labels, and thinking of people as people is step one to not being a cunt

Tell that t the terrorists mate

The terrorists are pretty happy to label people thought, it benefits them, their handlers and enablers.

[Uncle]

I find you guys are doing a huge oversimplification of a collection of regional problems, xenophobic discrimination and political opportunism that are older than all of us with “lol immigrants” and “fuck religion”.

The fact that this is attack was probably indirectly encouraged by a piss match by Erdogan... well...

too currpost for this thread but I feel like a lot of it does have to do with the specific mix of elements in europe

why don't teachers get beheaded for the glory of allah in the united states?  why aren't random ladies in churches getting their throats slit?

you could say it's because they don't have the proximity to muslim nations and therefore don't have as much opportunistic immigration

but then you think, what is the US's equivalent of this kind of immigration?  mexicans, right?  mostly catholic

and you don't see them raiding US mosques



you could also argue teachers don't get beheaded in the US because any potential beheaders know the shift in public opinion would be swift and terrible

is the constant borderline on anti muslim sentiment in the US a bad thing, or an effective deterrent to these kinds of terrorist acts?

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

I know muslims whose adherence to their faith ranges from going out on the piss, tucking £20 notes in strippers g-strings and ending the night with a greasy spoon full english to being grumpy cunts by the afternoon during ramadan because they're fasting and get tetchy as hell, but I wouldn't ascribe potential terrorist to any of them.

Likewise I guess I'm lucky our country shipped most of our religious nutters off on the Mayflower, but the Christians I know are the happy clappy kumbaya coffee and cake morning types, and I can't ascribe to them the type of behaviours that see abortion clinics being blown up or going gun crazy at a gay bar

[Rufus]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabism

[Cerveza mas fina]

I know muslims whose adherence to their faith ranges from going out on the piss, tucking £20 notes in strippers g-strings and ending the night with a greasy spoon full english to being grumpy cunts by the afternoon during ramadan because they're fasting and get tetchy as hell, but I wouldn't ascribe potential terrorist to any of them.

Likewise I guess I'm lucky our country shipped most of our religious nutters off on the Mayflower, but the Christians I know are the happy clappy kumbaya coffee and cake morning types, and I can't ascribe to them the type of behaviours that see abortion clinics being blown up or going gun crazy at a gay bar

Great anecdotal evidence

Now show me some hard evidence of christian terrorism where you live in the last 20 years vs muslim terrorism

Because the real evidence is out there

[Nintex]

Sure like that its expected, but the problem is their religion and backwardsness and lack of skill to adapt to western society

Why can all other immigrants adapt without terrorism as a result of it "being tough"?

Its the religion

I understand the emotions you're going through right now but the problem is not their religion and 'backwardness'.

A lot of people across all of society are in a bad mental state right now because of the situation regarding COVID 19.
It takes only a small thing to set people off and adding to that internal conflict only helps the enemies of Europe.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

I know muslims whose adherence to their faith ranges from going out on the piss, tucking £20 notes in strippers g-strings and ending the night with a greasy spoon full english to being grumpy cunts by the afternoon during ramadan because they're fasting and get tetchy as hell, but I wouldn't ascribe potential terrorist to any of them.

Likewise I guess I'm lucky our country shipped most of our religious nutters off on the Mayflower, but the Christians I know are the happy clappy kumbaya coffee and cake morning types, and I can't ascribe to them the type of behaviours that see abortion clinics being blown up or going gun crazy at a gay bar

Great anecdotal evidence

Now show me some hard evidence of christian terrorism where you live in the last 20 years vs muslim terrorism

Because the real evidence is out there

I mean... its not the last 20 years, but the IRA are technically Catholic terrorists, and they were plenty active in the 80s in mainland Britain, and I don't assume any Irish catholics I meet are potential terrorists, or even particularly sympathetic towards things that were going on during the Troubles

[Boredfrom]

but then you think, what is the US's equivalent of this kind of immigration?  mexicans, right?  mostly catholic

and you don't see them raiding US mosques

Eh, there were conflicts with the US because immigration and xenophobia for a while, not exactly religious in nature (but WE HAD THOSE in our own country, even now in a minor scale).

The US and Mexico (and the rest of the countries in America) are relative new nations that don’t have the same conflict that European and Middle Eastern had for centuries. That the Middle East is in a perpetually state of unrest (thanks partially for the actions of western nations) doesn’t help.

[Pissy F Benny]

this thread took a weird turn

[BIONIC]

this thread took a weird turn

I miss the good old days of last month when all we worried about was Kswizzle’s Baltimore threads 

[Cerveza mas fina]

I know muslims whose adherence to their faith ranges from going out on the piss, tucking £20 notes in strippers g-strings and ending the night with a greasy spoon full english to being grumpy cunts by the afternoon during ramadan because they're fasting and get tetchy as hell, but I wouldn't ascribe potential terrorist to any of them.

Likewise I guess I'm lucky our country shipped most of our religious nutters off on the Mayflower, but the Christians I know are the happy clappy kumbaya coffee and cake morning types, and I can't ascribe to them the type of behaviours that see abortion clinics being blown up or going gun crazy at a gay bar

Great anecdotal evidence

Now show me some hard evidence of christian terrorism where you live in the last 20 years vs muslim terrorism

Because the real evidence is out there

I mean... its not the last 20 years, but the IRA are technically Catholic terrorists, and they were plenty active in the 80s in mainland Britain, and I don't assume any Irish catholics I meet are potential terrorists, or even particularly sympathetic towards things that were going on during the Troubles

Hahahha talk about a bad faith argument hahahhaha

Was just waiting for you to bust this out

Ira are freedom fighters, they have their own state, which they fought to reunite, their beef was with a local occupation force

Muslims are beheading grandmas abroad because they are mad that their religion wont allow them to look at titties

[Boredfrom]

this thread took a weird turn

I just wanted to post this:

I mean, that example isn't Corbyn though?
And it's very arguable.

This is pretty clearly a person who believes in the development and protection of a Jewish nation hit job, and the EHCR isn't actually the ECHR, which would've been an actual damning judgement

I mean, the entire thing happened, yes, but it's so milquetoast you'd find violations of this grade in any major organization, and the entire thing continues to be a coverup to keep defending the absurd, immoral stance of supporting Israel.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ehrc-report-into-the-labour-party-uk-update-corbyn-suspended.315283/page-3

Not bitch about “the immigrants and Muslims”.

[Hermit]

this thread took a weird turn

Back to our regularly scheduled entertainment.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gavin-moore-demons-souls-remake-creative-director-there-are-no-difficulty-options-in-demons-souls-and-there-shouldnt-be.315502/

Waiting for the REEE ACCESSIBILITY!!! brigade

Edit: oop always late 

[Pissy F Benny]

this thread took a weird turn

I just wanted to post this:

I mean, that example isn't Corbyn though?
And it's very arguable.

This is pretty clearly a filler hit job, and the EHCR isn't actually the ECHR, which would've been an actual damning judgement

I mean, the entire thing happened, yes, but it's so milquetoast you'd find violations of this grade in any major organization, and the entire thing continues to be a coverup to keep defending the absurd, immoral stance of supporting Israel.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ehrc-report-into-the-labour-party-uk-update-corbyn-suspended.315283/page-3

Not bitch about “the immigrants and Muslims”.

the word filter strikes

[Boredfrom]

Starmier’s labour obviously don’t give a shit about anti-semitism to cynically falsely use it to bring down one of the few politicians who actually gave a shit about marginalized people. There was real anti-semitism among the party, but not Corbyn, and that antisemitism only gets harder to fight because of shit like this.

How does can anyone have any trust in these dogshit institutions anymore? I certainly wouldn’t ever again trust Labour and the British media calling someone anti-Semitic again without confirming it for myself, and who has the time to confirm everything on thier own.

 

That part was weirdly worded...

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Ira are freedom fighters

[Boredfrom]

Why would he make a statement putting over the person who wants to destroy everything he believes in? The antisemitism in the Labour party "issue" will magically disappear the minute Corbyn and anyone ideologically aligned with him have been taken care of. It won't disappear because there is no antisemitism, it will disappear because Starmer is an extreme center cardboard man who supports zionism "without qualification" and poses no threat whatsoever to the capitalist class.

  

[Cerveza mas fina]

Is France occupying some poor ass muslim countries now and imposing christian values on them and was this an act to make them withdraw? Dont think so.

UK on the other hand is occupying N.I. to this day.

Where you even born in the 80s, do you remember the troubles? People are getting decapitated today by muslims and you hark back yo something unrelated from half a century ago

[Boredfrom]

Ayyyy shut the fuck up.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Go suck allahs dick bro

What is wrong about France not occupying muslim countries? Nothing.

[Hermit]

getting angry on the bore dot com

 

[HaughtyFrank]

[Uncle]

[Clockwork5]

Begin rant.
How hard is it to not draw pics of Mohammed for lulz? I don’t want to come across as victim blaming because there is so much tragedy involved and by no means does anyone deserve to die for a drawing but with that said, it is such an irresponsible thing to do. France is a literal religious tinderbox as has been shown time after time and time and time again. Why do it? If your point is to put on display how crazy the extremists are you have to realize innocent people get fucking beheaded, or trucks drive down the sidewalks of Nice and buildings get bombed and more lunatics latch on to religion as a rationalization for their lunacy... Right? Like you know that’s the outcome when you draw a picture of Mohammed as some form of protest or satire. Right? Why do it?

This is so sad for everyone involved and these murderous villains are really fucking things up for every decent Muslim person in the west.
End rant.

[daycru]

Begin rant.
How hard is it to not draw pics of Mohammed for lulz? I don’t want to come across as victim blaming because there is so much tragedy involved and by no means does anyone deserve to die for a drawing but with that said, it is such an irresponsible thing to do. France is a literal religious tinderbox as has been shown time after time and time and time again. Why do it? If your point is to put on display how crazy the extremists are you have to realize innocent people get fucking beheaded, or trucks drive down the sidewalks of Nice and buildings get bombed and more lunatics latch on to religion as a rationalization for their lunacy... Right? Like you know that’s the outcome when you draw a picture of Mohammed as some form of protest or satire. Right? Why do it?

This is so sad for everyone involved and these murderous villains are really fucking things up for every decent Muslim person in the west.
End rant.

It’s the Muslims responsibility to not murder people. If they can’t handle cartoons and bikinis, get them out.

[Clockwork5]

Begin rant.
How hard is it to not draw pics of Mohammed for lulz? I don’t want to come across as victim blaming because there is so much tragedy involved and by no means does anyone deserve to die for a drawing but with that said, it is such an irresponsible thing to do. France is a literal religious tinderbox as has been shown time after time and time and time again. Why do it? If your point is to put on display how crazy the extremists are you have to realize innocent people get fucking beheaded, or trucks drive down the sidewalks of Nice and buildings get bombed and more lunatics latch on to religion as a rationalization for their lunacy... Right? Like you know that’s the outcome when you draw a picture of Mohammed as some form of protest or satire. Right? Why do it?

This is so sad for everyone involved and these murderous villains are really fucking things up for every decent Muslim person in the west.
End rant.

It’s the Muslims responsibility to not murder people. If they can’t handle cartoons and bikinis, get them out.

99.99999% handle it just fine. It is an individual’s responsibility to not murder people over a drawing, not “the Muslims,” and with all demographics there is a very small percentage that will murder for just about any perceived slight. It is also an individual’s responsibility to understand the consequences of their actions and in France, without fail, every time some edge lord pulls this shit innocent people die at the hands of some psycho. All because someone wanted to make an absolutely meaningless statement.

[Nintex]

this thread took a weird turn

A preview of the Biden Years(TM) 

[BikeJesus]

Video Games Are Dumb upgraded to a perm.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/police-detain-nine-people-over-beheading-of-french-teacher-in-paris-suburb.308059/post-48726562

Good riddance.

[ldcommando (notthegafone)]

If a drawing makes you behead people you are gone

Nevermind, this is more important:

Video Games Are Dumb upgraded to a perm.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/police-detain-nine-people-over-beheading-of-french-teacher-in-paris-suburb.308059/post-48726562

Good riddance.

 

[cosmicblizzard]

I do kind of wonder what Era's reaction would be if Kurt Westergaard, known for the "bomb in turban" drawing of a terrorist that WASN'T Muhammad, got killed over it.  It's without a doubt a bigoted work on its own, so would people downplay the fact someone got killed over a drawing to say "I'm not going to mourn the death of a racist"?  Because for the most part, the overton window has been on the guy's side for years after his life turned into endless assassination attempts.

[Boredfrom]

Begin rant.
How hard is it to not draw pics of Mohammed for lulz? I don’t want to come across as victim blaming because there is so much tragedy involved and by no means does anyone deserve to die for a drawing but with that said, it is such an irresponsible thing to do. France is a literal religious tinderbox as has been shown time after time and time and time again. Why do it? If your point is to put on display how crazy the extremists are you have to realize innocent people get fucking beheaded, or trucks drive down the sidewalks of Nice and buildings get bombed and more lunatics latch on to religion as a rationalization for their lunacy... Right? Like you know that’s the outcome when you draw a picture of Mohammed as some form of protest or satire. Right? Why do it?

This is so sad for everyone involved and these murderous villains are really fucking things up for every decent Muslim person in the west.
End rant.

It’s the Muslims responsibility to not murder people. If they can’t handle cartoons and bikinis, get them out.

99.99999% handle it just fine. It is an individual’s responsibility to not murder people over a drawing, not “the Muslims,” and with all demographics there is a very small percentage that will murder for just about any perceived slight. It is also an individual’s responsibility to understand the consequences of their actions and in France, without fail, every time some edge lord pulls this shit innocent people die at the hands of some psycho. All because someone wanted to make an absolutely meaningless statement.

 

It was a school teacher that was talking about free speech and secularism in his class. It was not a fucking edgelord.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Is France occupying some poor ass muslim countries now and imposing christian values on them and was this an act to make them withdraw? Dont think so.

UK on the other hand is occupying N.I. to this day.

Where you even born in the 80s, do you remember the troubles? People are getting decapitated today by muslims and you hark back yo something unrelated from half a century ago

the vast majority of people actually living in Northern Ireland consider themselves British and want to remain in the United Kingdom and a small group that are small enough to fall under the definition of statistical noise want to exert political change that the majority do not want through violence and the threat of violence.

But sure, "freedom fighters" against "the occupation".

As to why that is relevant today, it's because Britain did the same thing in Ireland as it did in India and Palestine; it had two violent and irreconcilable religious factions living in the same country and decided the easiest fix was to just carve the country up into two, giving each faction their 'own' country.


which - pikachu face - means decades later you still have countries on the brink of religious war sat right on each others doorstep.

[Merch]

User Banned (duration to be determined by Admins): Dismissing anti-antisemitism

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

This thread is temporarily locked while we review reports.

Are they going to send out village idiot The Artisan to do the dumbshit staff post again?

[Uncle]

Everyone should just listen to what the terrorists want and follow suit! Then none of this violence will happen! Easy-Peazy!

yeah really what's next

Ok I know that now they're murdering non-muslims for saying the word "allah" out loud.  But really, how hard is it to just not say "allah?"  You're pretty much asking for it, when you know you're gonna get killed for doing it.

Alright yes the muslims have claimed a district of Paris for themselves, and are killing infidels who dare to enter.  But seriously, how hard is it to just...not go there?  Educate me on this.  You probably don't want to go there anyway, it's not your culture.  Stay in places where you don't get killed.

[HaughtyFrank]

This thread is temporarily locked while we review reports.

Are they going to send out village idiot The Artisan to do the dumbshit staff post again?

I have the feeling that he is their Muslim representative so they use him as messenger for any possibly controversial decisions

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

Muslim summit when?

[Joe Molotov]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhism

 

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

This thread is temporarily locked while we review reports.

Are they going to send out village idiot The Artisan to do the dumbshit staff post again?

I have the feeling that he is their Muslim representative so they use him as messenger for any possibly controversial decisions

Imagine being messofanego and the Artisan gets a modship first

[Cerveza mas fina]

Is France occupying some poor ass muslim countries now and imposing christian values on them and was this an act to make them withdraw? Dont think so.

UK on the other hand is occupying N.I. to this day.

Where you even born in the 80s, do you remember the troubles? People are getting decapitated today by muslims and you hark back yo something unrelated from half a century ago

the vast majority of people actually living in Northern Ireland consider themselves British and want to remain in the United Kingdom and a small group that are small enough to fall under the definition of statistical noise want to exert political change that the majority do not want through violence and the threat of violence.

But sure, "freedom fighters" against "the occupation".

As to why that is relevant today, it's because Britain did the same thing in Ireland as it did in India and Palestine; it had two violent and irreconcilable religious factions living in the same country and decided the easiest fix was to just carve the country up into two, giving each faction their 'own' country.


which - pikachu face - means decades later you still have countries on the brink of religious war sat right on each others doorstep.

You mean the transplanted settlers the UK put in place much like China has done in Tibet and Xinjiang?  And the people that suddenly became protestant.

Cool cool.

Sure if you ask the Han chinese im Tibet where Tibet belongs too you will get the party line too.

Anyhoo the troubles are over for now and I hope they will stay gone, but with Brexit and the border coming back to divide the island who knows.

[Nintex]

The Muslims didn't 'claim' a district, the government just gave up on the district.
That's because it doesn't matter in terms of their tax revenue and/or electoral chances.

That's the real problem across Europe (and I guess the US too). Large parts of the country and population, in the grand scheme of things, simply do not matter to the government.
If they did those places would've been fixed long ago and they would've spend the resources to do so. Macron spend more money on the state funeral for the teacher than he ever did on any of those districts.

Why can't the yellow vests get what they want? Because even in the most 'optimal' circumstances their share of the GDP wouldn't even be 1% of what a single stock broker or tech company creates in wealth and tax revenue.
Take food stamps and food banks for example. When they were created during the financial crisis this was an 'outrage' as hunger was not something that occurred in the G7 nations now there's more than ever before.

If you know a thing or two about the web, Migration is simply a funnel and at the end you get a conversion rate. For Germany the math is simple, if out of all the refugees they take in about 5% - 10% becomes successful working in the German car, chemical or tech industries the policy has been a success. They really don't care that the other 90% wash-up in a suburb on welfare benefits somewhere.

The gap will only increase. What are those people going to do when we have access to AI and we can predict when and where they're going to freak out?
At this point though a US-style crime bill is more likely. Just lock up all the (would be) Super Jihadi's on their first non-violent offense. Problem solved in a civilized way.

[Boredfrom]

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

You mean the transplanted settlers the UK put in place much like China has done in Tibet and Xinjiang?  And the people that suddenly became protestant.

Cool cool.

Sure if you ask the Han chinese im Tibet where Tibet belongs too you will get the party line too.

Anyhoo the troubles are over for now and I hope they will stay gone, but with Brexit and the border coming back to divide the island who knows.

Ulster plantations: 1556
IRA founding: 1917

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Even if it's false, that it's believable is a major red flag. What does culture war even mean in this context? Having people being vocal about not supporting actions such as these is a good thing. Fuck propriety.

WOW, THE FACT I BELIEVE IT SPEAKS VOLUMES, RAnon, today

[thisismyusername]

Ira are freedom fighters

Someone's "freedom fighters," is someone else's "terrorists."

For the record, Bin Laden was a "freedom fighter," in Afghanistan until he wasn't.

I got no dog in this fight, but I just wanted to point that out. Matter of a persons perspective on how things are viewed.

[Uncle]

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/former-cdprojekt-employee-tweets-her-wage.315472/

ITT: American slacktivist marxists learn about comparative purchasing power parity but still can't form the concept they're globally in the wealthiest quartile

[Pissy F Benny]

theres a reason so many polish (sometimes highly skilled) workers come over here and work for minimum wage in a warehouse/factory

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/former-cdprojekt-employee-tweets-her-wage.315472/

ITT: American slacktivist marxists learn about comparative purchasing power parity but still can't form the concept they're globally in the wealthiest quartile

Shame, if only they had unions. And maybe a union of unions. Which then elected a set of councils of some kind to oversee the entire economy. But 2020, argh!

[Joe Molotov]

(Image removed from quote.)

female characters not wearing pants 

[Tektonic]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/former-cdprojekt-employee-tweets-her-wage.315472/

ITT: American slacktivist marxists learn about comparative purchasing power parity but still can't form the concept they're globally in the wealthiest quartile

great strong takes in that thread

I think I'm definitely out as of now.

There goes my money. See you at $20 cyberpunk

Era, maybe consider not buying this game. Or buying it used.

It's my first game from CDPR i didn't preorder. I'm conflicted as well.

  VS

[FUME5]

Artisan is a mod? Ahahaahahaahahahaha