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Re: Is the world burning?
« Reply #1441 on: June 02, 2020, 11:56:15 PM »
:lol CNN kicked off Terry Cruz for 'breaking news', took a whole minute to thank him and plug his Instagram, then showed 5 seconds of people getting arrested in LA before going to break

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« Reply #1442 on: June 02, 2020, 11:57:13 PM »
:lol CNN kicked off Terry Cruz for 'breaking news', took a whole minute to thank him and plug his Instagram, then showed 5 seconds of people getting arrested in LA before going to break

I don't know if this is Ted Cruz or Terry Crews.

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« Reply #1443 on: June 03, 2020, 12:02:55 AM »
I mean the tall black senator from Texas. 

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« Reply #1444 on: June 03, 2020, 12:05:01 AM »
Also as if Ted Crews feels safe coming out of whatever hole he lives in right now to go on CNN. 

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Re: Is the world burning?
« Reply #1447 on: June 03, 2020, 12:30:29 AM »
Killed by looters while defending his store

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« Reply #1448 on: June 03, 2020, 12:33:45 AM »
https://streamable.com/9zxci3

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« Reply #1449 on: June 03, 2020, 12:42:24 AM »
Not nearly as awesome as if you got shot, fam.

Let's not go there.

Since when do mods not deserve to be shot?

The chaos and destruction in these threads from moderation is mass aggressive violence and should be put down with just defensive force, full stop. 

If you don't like the admin-brother sex scandal (d) and Steam keys bribery scandals (d), or any of the other zillion admins responsible for the conduct of its moderator force (again, allll d) and you live there and want to blame them for the moderator's action, then maybe post differently so you don't get the same results.  If you live there and you ban and edit shit though, then your actions are indefensible and should be made to stop by whatever force necessary. 

And that's just as regards the moderators in that forum jurisdiction... Moderators in other places banning and editing don't even have the slightest veneer of sympathy or justification, as if any reasonable justification could be derived from attacking a fourth party because you observed someone victimizing someone else... there is none.  The weakness and ineptitude on display in allowing this moderation to continue is inconceivable and repugnant.

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Re: Is the world burning?
« Reply #1450 on: June 03, 2020, 12:43:52 AM »

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Re: Is the world burning?
« Reply #1451 on: June 03, 2020, 12:46:56 AM »
https://streamable.com/9zxci3

police shot his phone

That's crazy accuracy or a sniper dude

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Re: Is the world burning?
« Reply #1452 on: June 03, 2020, 12:50:41 AM »
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Re: Is the world burning?
« Reply #1453 on: June 03, 2020, 01:02:37 AM »
I already hated cops due to only ever having shitty negative experiences with them, but after all this fucking brutality, can any sane regular person look at the police force and think they're there to protect and not oppress?  :doge

pls send me literature about how bullshit cops are.

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Re: Is the world burning?
« Reply #1454 on: June 03, 2020, 01:05:14 AM »
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« Reply #1455 on: June 03, 2020, 01:07:20 AM »
Between the helicopter intimidation and that parking garage video I just realized the protests have morphed into a perverse circus act. Every night the police lead the protestors exactly where they want them and amuse themselves with their suffering. Spontaneous acts of violence. That guy getting a canister straight to the face. Trapping them on bridges and highways and tear gassing them for no reason. It's all just sick entertainment. At the behest of the media protesters have completely disciplined themselves not to defend themselves or do anything. They dance. We watch.

This is what I meant when I said it has become permitted dissent.

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« Reply #1456 on: June 03, 2020, 01:07:24 AM »
pls send me literature about how bullshit cops are.

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« Reply #1457 on: June 03, 2020, 01:07:32 AM »
man, this good vibes looting is making me want to play some D3

https://www.reddit.com/r/IdiotsInCars/comments/gvgl22/leaving_your_car_in_traffic_so_you_can_steal_some/
getting legendary boots from a footlocker :rash

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« Reply #1458 on: June 03, 2020, 01:09:43 AM »
Between the helicopter intimidation and that parking garage video I just realized the protests have morphed into a perverse circus act. Every night the police lead the protestors exactly where they want them and amuse themselves with their suffering. Spontaneous acts of violence. That guy getting a canister straight to the face. Trapping them on bridges and highways and tear gassing them for no reason. It's all just sick entertainment. At the behest of the media protesters have completely disciplined themselves not to defend themselves or do anything. They dance. We watch.
it’s like everyone’s forgotten what stakes are. the most important political event in 10 years and it’s all just spectacle

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« Reply #1459 on: June 03, 2020, 01:10:53 AM »
man, this good vibes looting is making me want to play some D3

https://www.reddit.com/r/IdiotsInCars/comments/gvgl22/leaving_your_car_in_traffic_so_you_can_steal_some/
getting legendary boots from a footlocker :rash

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« Reply #1460 on: June 03, 2020, 01:16:56 AM »
Between the helicopter intimidation and that parking garage video I just realized the protests have morphed into a perverse circus act. Every night the police lead the protestors exactly where they want them and amuse themselves with their suffering. Spontaneous acts of violence. That guy getting a canister straight to the face. Trapping them on bridges and highways and tear gassing them for no reason. It's all just sick entertainment. At the behest of the media protesters have completely disciplined themselves not to defend themselves or do anything. They dance. We watch.
it’s like everyone’s forgotten what stakes are. the most important political event in 10 years and it’s all just spectacle

What do you guys think could be accomplished with the right tactics and how?

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« Reply #1461 on: June 03, 2020, 01:19:14 AM »
Between the helicopter intimidation and that parking garage video I just realized the protests have morphed into a perverse circus act. Every night the police lead the protestors exactly where they want them and amuse themselves with their suffering. Spontaneous acts of violence. That guy getting a canister straight to the face. Trapping them on bridges and highways and tear gassing them for no reason. It's all just sick entertainment. At the behest of the media protesters have completely disciplined themselves not to defend themselves or do anything. They dance. We watch.
it’s like everyone’s forgotten what stakes are. the most important political event in 10 years and it’s all just spectacle

What do you guys think could be accomplished with the right tactics and how?
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Re: Is the world burning?
« Reply #1462 on: June 03, 2020, 01:20:04 AM »
Months of violent protests leading into the election would undo the law and order strategy for a start. 

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« Reply #1463 on: June 03, 2020, 01:23:24 AM »
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« Reply #1465 on: June 03, 2020, 01:38:27 AM »
So the win condition is something like the municipal leadership breaking the police union because that's the better choice than sustained rioting and property damage?

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« Reply #1466 on: June 03, 2020, 01:45:35 AM »
Carry an UNO Reverse card with you, so you can pull it out like a soccer ref.

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Re: Is the world burning?
« Reply #1467 on: June 03, 2020, 01:52:27 AM »

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Re: Is the world burning?
« Reply #1468 on: June 03, 2020, 01:53:43 AM »
If I'm about to be arrested by the police can I pull a citizen's arrest before they can get the cuffs on me and arrest them?
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« Reply #1469 on: June 03, 2020, 02:02:25 AM »
He's saying you should carry the... :teehee :teehee :teehee RED UNO Reverse card

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« Reply #1470 on: June 03, 2020, 02:05:33 AM »
Thinking a few steps ahead in the conversation here: are you asking me if hostage taking has political legitimacy?

Nope, completely uninterested in legitimacy or morality.

What I'm trying to suss out is the... (Eric Garland voice) game theory.

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« Reply #1471 on: June 03, 2020, 02:15:44 AM »
A wave of reactionary violence does seem like quite the pickle.

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« Reply #1472 on: June 03, 2020, 02:23:33 AM »
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Re: Is the world burning?
« Reply #1473 on: June 03, 2020, 02:25:19 AM »
We should try breaking the police unions. Just to see what changes. If it goes poorly for police we can always not ever bring them back.

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« Reply #1475 on: June 03, 2020, 02:36:35 AM »
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« Reply #1476 on: June 03, 2020, 02:44:37 AM »
They have these people corralled..I rarely react so viscerally to the news. But Christ, it's so perverse. I know striking back would make things worse given they're outgunned. I just don't know how I can square my worldview with the dignity of these people being torn away in front of an audience.

I have to put my hope in state level reps, I guess.
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« Reply #1477 on: June 03, 2020, 03:04:39 AM »
Between the helicopter intimidation and that parking garage video I just realized the protests have morphed into a perverse circus act. Every night the police lead the protestors exactly where they want them and amuse themselves with their suffering. Spontaneous acts of violence. That guy getting a canister straight to the face. Trapping them on bridges and highways and tear gassing them for no reason. It's all just sick entertainment. At the behest of the media protesters have completely disciplined themselves not to defend themselves or do anything. They dance. We watch.

black man murdered -> police station burned -> leadership: "Are we really going to bring in the military police? Or would we rather announce investigations and reforms?" The majority can grapple with this question and it may very well find that it has been unjust and change course. The violence gives society an opportunity to make a judgment when it might have just gone ignored forever.

If your strategy hinges on political leaders being spurred to action and the majority of those leaders' constituencies being sympathetic to your cause, getting unjustly clobbered by the police in front of a camera seems like one of the most useful things someone could do. Especially for white protesters, obv.



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Re: Is the world burning?
« Reply #1480 on: June 03, 2020, 04:03:00 AM »
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« Reply #1486 on: June 03, 2020, 08:04:38 AM »
I will never be memed! :killme
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« Reply #1489 on: June 03, 2020, 08:11:38 AM »
Meme me one more time and I’ll tell on you :karen
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« Reply #1493 on: June 03, 2020, 08:29:34 AM »
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Re: Is the world burning?
« Reply #1494 on: June 03, 2020, 08:35:59 AM »
Well last night was the quietest around me. Seems like the neighborhood destruction is coming to an end slowly.

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Re: Is the world burning?
« Reply #1495 on: June 03, 2020, 09:25:19 AM »
https://twitter.com/23rdButterfly/status/1267986452471787523
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the fuck you won't be on record because he yielded his time before it.

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« Reply #1496 on: June 03, 2020, 09:29:49 AM »
Those were even better when they gave them a minute to talk, but they changed it to 30 seconds after they came back from break.  One caller googled the names of one the guy's family members and just listed them.  The idea of having a community forum go to zoom and then have the callers be mostly anonymous was a pretty insane one. 

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« Reply #1497 on: June 03, 2020, 09:32:30 AM »
when I got up this morning I didn't expect to be proud of kpop and sonic fans.  :lol

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« Reply #1498 on: June 03, 2020, 09:40:03 AM »
I do feel like a lot has changed in terms of protest tactics due to social media though, and something that makes it different from hong kong.  The fact that all it takes is one protestor to film something like this and not require a news crew there to witness it and then have it get picked up by the media later makes it a lot harder for police to use force - at least in the daylight.  At least I don't remember the hail of news stores about Twitter posts in past riots or protests. 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/protester-knelt-down-to-tell-police-he-loves-and-respects-them-they-threw-him-in-jail-charleston-south-carolina/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=90008340

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« Reply #1499 on: June 03, 2020, 09:50:32 AM »