Is the world burning?

[curly]

you could fit the statues of everyone who achieved something in british history and also passed the purity test in a phonebox.

Well the British measure their historical achievements in Indians killed so that sounds about right

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

I'd like to see Churchhill's statues come down, so we can re-examine his history and finally realize, his place as a Nazi killer is far more important than minor bouts of racism.  Then make even bigger statues of him.

Oh, right, he gets a statue for fighting nazis for a couple of years?
I fight nazis every day. Just yesterday I blocked someone for disagreeing with me and called the president Drumpf. And I have social anxiety!

Where's my statue?

[BIONIC]

It's a statue from 1895. It survived WW1, WW2 and dozens of other hardships.
So very little survives 100+ years and it is completely unnecessary to tear down such an object.

Now there could be an argument that such a statue should not be placed in a public square and would be better suited for a museum to give it the proper context.
I just don't think it's a good idea for a spur of the moment mob to decide what of history we preserve and what can be tossed into the sea.

Zwarte Staues Matter! 

[Madrun Badrun]

As the statue committee, we need to know how many Indians have you killed in the digital realm? 

[Madrun Badrun]

That's not really fair since the Russians were doping. 

[Madrun Badrun]

https://twitter.com/NYCMayor/status/1269650502284972032

I'll believe it when I see it.  Really worried the protests will fizzle out and the news will move onto economy stuff.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

so....they gonna arrest young people?

[Madrun Badrun]

https://twitter.com/austin_police/status/1269326118366183424

see thread lol

[OnlyRegret]

if it's from 1895 and slavery ended in Britan in the 1830's, what does that say about the people who erected the statue? 

Probably roughly the same thing it says about the people who erected confederate generals and leaders monuments in all throughout the South AND North not even in the immediate aftermath of the Civil War, but in the early 1900s and and 1960s.

I agree that such statues erected after WW1 and WW2 were probably created in extremely bad taste or to provoke.
With regards to Colston, I'm reading that there are still a lot of question marks regarding his history with regards to slavery.

The sculptor John Cassidy seems to have done a lot of statues of historical figures and did not seem to have a radical agenda of any kind.
I'm also reading a newspaper conducted a poll and the local residents didn't want the statue removed. Instead there was a proposal to add a description to give the statue more context.
Which would've been more appropriate.

Meh.

I'd be more fervent in defence if it was a more significant piece, as in, was a great piece of art or of great importance to many people.
Some rich slaver? Meh.

[Dickie Dee]

It's a statue from 1895. It survived WW1, WW2 and dozens of other hardships.
So very little survives 100+ years and it is completely unnecessary to tear down such an object.

Now there could be an argument that such a statue should not be placed in a public square and would be better suited for a museum to give it the proper context.
I just don't think it's a good idea for a spur of the moment mob to decide what of history we preserve and what can be tossed into the sea.

Then build some National Shitheel Museum and stick it in there?

[OnlyRegret]

Also

"It's a statue from 1895. It survived WW1, WW2 and dozens of other hardships."

 
brah, it's a statue, it'll cope with famine, drought, plague, and solar storms just fine

[Cerveza mas fina]

Fuck Churchill for selling out Poland at Yalta for Greece

Fat fuck

[Positive Touch]

you could fit the statues of everyone who achieved something in british history and also passed the purity test in a phonebox.

i'm glad we can agree that the british completely suck ass then. from churchill to jk rowling to rare entertainment, it's clear that they've committed enough atrocities over the decades and must now be punished for it

[Positive Touch]

Fuck Churchill for selling out Poland at Yalta for Greece

wait maybe he wasn't so bad after all

[curly]

https://mobile.twitter.com/notcolloquial/status/1269495996230381568

There's like 10 million different interests trying to co-opt the protests into something nonthreatening

[Positive Touch]

hey look it's ferguson all over again. nothing major changes but these organizations will all walk away with a shitload of money

[Positive Touch]

This was always how it was going to end. Oprah going on tv talking about forgiveness and nothing getting reformed, all the press releases from firms in support. I expect to see Roger Goodell and the food network butter lady taking a knee in solidarity

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1269175582421651461?

[Madrun Badrun]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/gyg9dm/absolutely_messed_up_man_is_kicked_out_of_his/

[curly]

There are bills in Congress and police departments are announcing changes. Just give it more time.

[Himu]

How has the past week gone? Haven't been paying as much attention due to family business and Hard Times, daddeh.

[Madrun Badrun]

Really good.  The protests have become non-violent - I don't hear anything anymore about looting that didn't happen in the initial few days.  The police continued to use force against non-violent protestors and so the narrative has slowly changed from looters to police reform.  Not to say that is going to happen but we are much more in an environment where those conversations can take place than 5 days ago.  Trump using the military completely backfired.  There was a twitter thread of positive changes you might want to look at.  If you want to see police violence and haven't seen the white old man in Buffalo, or the 16 yearold kid in Texas, or a few NYPD vs protestors videos those seem to be key moments, along with Trump clearing protestors for his photo op. 

That being said, I think almost all major cities no longer have a curfew and the police have mostly stopped acting violently on cammera so I'm afraid that the situation is going to wind down before real change can take place. 

[team filler]

if muhammad will not cum to the statue, then the statue will get thrown in the ocean

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Muhammad tearing down statues and forbidding the practice as statues elevate human beings to worship and humans are undeserving of it

Probably the only thing I put on a pedestal ( ) about the dude. Even though I usually fall into "old buildings and statues are cool" camp.

I think it's just human nature to create narratives oriented around people in order to contextualise historical events.
Which is why these protests are simultaneously about George Floyd, but also not about George Floyd at all.

[Ghoul]

https://twitter.com/darrengrimes_/status/1269711535313690624

[Dickie Dee]

https://twitter.com/matthewferner/status/1269728324441370624

 

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Obv the big question is what replaces it.

[close]

[Ghoul]

https://twitter.com/dawkinsreturns/status/1269661639869153281

🙃

He beat hitler but 🤷🏻‍♂️

[El Babua]

We saved his fat ass from Hitler you mean

[Uncle]

https://twitter.com/austin_police/status/1269326118366183424

see thread lol

I don't get the assumption that the cops faked it

just as easily could be some church group of 5 people that decided to get together and write 100 notes of support and did a really bad job of pretending like lots of people were writing them

[Dickie Dee]

https://twitter.com/mboorstein/status/1269740951108554753

[Positive Touch]

Neat that you have to worry about the police becoming (continuing to be?) a deadly terrorist group if you disband them

lmao can you imagine what nyc would look like if the nypd was suddenly disbanded

[Pennywise]

https://twitter.com/ACLUMN/status/1269738051498106880

[Oblivion]

looks like reggie is a #bluelivesmatter guy:

https://twitter.com/Reggie/status/1269702819117850626

 

[Positive Touch]

Sega fanboys picked the winning side after all

[Nintex]

As always Nintendo defends conservative family values against the SEGA anarchists, Soyny degenerates and Xbox Gaijin

[Ghoul]

Resetera thread “Reggie is an Uncle Tom now, hail Bowser”

[Nintex]

Super Mario - Cop
Luigi Mario - Cop
Fox McCloud - Space Cop
Captain Falcon - Cool Cop
Samus Aran - Cis Female Cop
Link - Legendary Cop
Kirby - Dream Cop
Donkey Kong - Jungle Cop

All your favs are cops

[Himu]

Mitt Romney saying Black Lives Matter. Holy shit this alternative timeline is amazing.

Thanks for the updates y'all.

[curly]

sounds like reparations to me

also they have a statue of Leopold? Jesus

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Romney supporting the movement isn't a big surprise.

He has never come off as a big asshole, just a little bit of an asshole.

Here, have a fucking cookie.

[EchoRin]

Just got finished protesting in Welles Park and then we marched down Lincoln and Addison. The latter being the more in your face protest while the park protest was a more family friendly affair. All went smoothly. Well organized and people giving out water and snacks. We'll see what becomes of the march. I stepped out halfway and I assume they are continuing down to Wrigley Field. Hope all goes well. We were being mostly watched by cops on bikes. But I had no feeling that an altercation was on its way.

[BisMarckie]

also they have a statue of Leopold? Jesus

Who else should there be a statue of? Name one famous Belgian that isn't a mass murderer or a child molester or both.

[EchoRin]

also they have a statue of Leopold? Jesus

Who else should there be a statue of? Name one famous Belgian that isn't a mass murderer or a child molester or both.

The under performing national soccer team? Sorry, football team

[jakefromstatefarm]

boreans itt slowly realizing all public statues are a mistake

[Uncle]

boreans itt slowly realizing all public statues are a mistake

https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/love

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/dreamboum/status/1269727002828902401

[Mandark]

Just catching up on this thread and there's a whole page of Nintex crying about people pulling down a statue of a person he'd never heard of, in the 8th biggest city of a country where he doesn't live.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

imagine not having nintex on super ignore.

[EchoRin]

Just a few pictures and videos I documented on the old potato











videos:

https://streamable.com/0umw4k

https://streamable.com/82zrf8

https://streamable.com/je3o5a

https://streamable.com/b413ax

https://streamable.com/btlm19

I hope this doesn't trigger you JayDubya 

[Don Rumata]

Neat that you have to worry about the police becoming (continuing to be?) a deadly terrorist group if you disband them

DRONE STRIIIKE!

[jakefromstatefarm]

boreans itt slowly realizing all public statues are a mistake

https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/love

point taken. how about public likenesses? 

[OnlyRegret]

[OnlyRegret]

sorry komrade, your party membership will be undergoing a revision

[Oblivion]

https://twitter.com/Anon_Snufkin/status/1268154463933480961

 

[team filler]

the sphinx and pyramids were built with slave labor to honor royalty or some bourgeoisie shid  tear those symbols of oppression down!!

[Joe Molotov]

also they have a statue of Leopold? Jesus

Who else should there be a statue of? Name one famous Belgian that isn't a mass murderer or a child molester or both.

Inventor of the Belgian waffle.

[Madrun Badrun]

PLEASE YES!  The protests need fuel. 

[Beezy]

 

https://twitter.com/AndrewYang/status/1269794236414808064

[team filler]

[Don Rumata]

The different color scheme idea has some merit.
Imagine if instead of intimidating black uniforms, they had dinosaurs onesis with rainbow patterns.
Riot gear could be Hello-Kitty pink and white.

[tiesto]

also they have a statue of Leopold? Jesus

Who else should there be a statue of? Name one famous Belgian that isn't a mass murderer or a child molester or both.

Charlotte De Witte