USA Politics Thread |OT| Son of a bitch!

[Rufus]

the argument that everyone should do something (anything) just because it is easy is never compelling

say that everyone should do it because it's important for public health and for managing the virus over the long term, I have absolutely nothing against that,

Then why add a holocaust comparison on top? For some added heft?

but then you will also need to demonstrate that it does indeed succeed at those functions

Do driver's licences stop people from driving without one? No. Let's do away with them then.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

However, I take issue with mandating and forcing others to get them. Morally it is wrong. Whatever happened to my body my choice?

Serioulsy trying to compare contagious decisions to abortion choices?

You know what happened to that? Nothing. because they are fucking irrelevant to the vaccine "debate".

[Uncle]

I'm definitely not solving this issue by myself.

Just found the juxtaposition of calling for the police to forcibly remove people for safety and public health motives & protect a public utility then ranting about a rather mild inconvenience from a larger mandate designed to protect a public utility & public health to be a bit confusing.

they're different topics, aren't they?

I don't necessarily call for the police to forcibly remove people, but I also don't think sending in a group that's less equipped than the police is going to somehow be more effective at solving the problem

of course many social services exist but apparently these particular people are choosing not to take advantage of them

all I intended to convey is that twitter hot takes aren't necessarily providing any more workable solutions to the issue

[Himu]

Ok. Enjoy your culture of fear. Your endless cycle of cold cries and calls from a media that wants your money, your time, your sweat, your fear. Weeks of Omicron fear. Turns out it's not shit. White House tells unvaccinated to prepare for a winter of death. Aren't you scared yet? Where does it end? All in the name of safety? What safety? Whose safety? Continue to bahhhh to your masters. The same corporations you criticize and resent. Continue to get your wool snipped.

You are truly showing the weakness of the leftist position and its fluttering of floundering failure in tacit pursuit of endless feelings. Where's the result? Leftism is shit. Keep proving me right. Keep being scared.

[Great Rumbler]

The reality of living with the effects of progressive policy and whistling away, sucking the teet of their golden promise is night and day and more people are waking up thankfully to their dystopian failure. Masha'Allah.

You get it. The problem is progressivism and liberalism. End their rule. White liberals and progressives and leftists are the most racist people I've met in my life and they have a lifestyle that will only lead you to the fire. You too have found the hole behind the veil: progressivism is shit. Kill it. Stab it in the belly and shoot it in the head NOW before it becomes too late.

Less posts with 20 twitter links, plz.

[Uncle]

the argument that everyone should do something (anything) just because it is easy is never compelling

say that everyone should do it because it's important for public health and for managing the virus over the long term, I have absolutely nothing against that,

Then why add a holocaust comparison on top? For some added heft?

you need to understand that a comparison is usually being wielded to make a specific point, and not for including literally all associated baggage

if I say "apples are like steak in that they can both be eaten" it's disingenuous to come back with "YOU MORON, CLAIMING THAT APPLES ARE SAVORY" when I never said that

you're essentially arguing the idea that no one can compare anything ever because no two things will ever be identical

if you don't want a comparison, then just leave it at what I said: the argument that everyone should do something (anything) just because it is easy is never compelling

but then you will also need to demonstrate that it does indeed succeed at those functions

Do driver's licences stop people from driving without one? No. Let's do away with them then.

I did not say that it needs to succeed at those functions 100% of the time, a vague improvement is better than nothing, which is why even if few vaccine card "enforcers" (tellers, clerks etc.) even glance at it and people are getting away with fake ones, if it does convince some percentage of the population to just get vaxed, that's probably good

[Himu]

Remember Vom, you're the one that compared the positions. Not I. I very much care for homeless people and refuse to see how letting them sleep on the subway, do their drugs in public is "caring" for the homeless

[Cauliflower Of Love]

omicron is no shit because of vaccines and boosters and distancing and not making people all virulent. crazy leftists

[Rufus]

you need to understand that a comparison is usually being wielded to make a specific point, and not for including literally all associated baggage

You need to understand tact and tastelessness.

I did not say that it needs to succeed at those functions 100% of the time, a vague improvement is better than nothing, which is why even if few vaccine card "enforcers" (tellers, clerks etc.) even glance at it and people are getting away with fake ones, if it does convince some percentage of the population to just get vaxed, that's probably good

Then what's the problem? Back to the slippery slope?

[Great Rumbler]

Yeah, let's leave the "Actually this is just like the Holocaust" arguments at the door.

[Uncle]

you need to understand that a comparison is usually being wielded to make a specific point, and not for including literally all associated baggage

You need to understand tact and tastelessness.

I also said "what's the problem, it's easy to show them your papers" which conjures up the menacing spectre of the hit 2013 game Papers, Please

[Himu]

Notice that throughout this discussion not one liberal or leftist has offered one single solution. Just feelings, guilt, and pointed fingers truly solidifying the weakness of their positions. All they know is comply. They refuse to engage in ideas or discussions. They can only villify and make twisted comparisons. Weak. Ineffectual. Crap.

[Rufus]

you need to understand that a comparison is usually being wielded to make a specific point, and not for including literally all associated baggage

You need to understand tact and tastelessness.

I also said "what's the problem, it's easy to show them your papers" which conjures up the menacing spectre of the hit 2013 game Papers, Please

[Cauliflower Of Love]

What the fuck are you even talking about.

Solutions to what problem? Concerns of dying from COVID? Vaccines, distancing. Economy dying? Stop spreading COVID. Filthy rich getting their pockets filled?COVID mandates.

Idiots not articulating an argument, himu.

[Himu]

You'll need five shots to be fully vaccinated.

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1474096240065449989

[D3RANG3D]

 

[Cauliflower Of Love]

imagine thinking "full vaccinated" is a thing.

and yelping at the left for being too sciency.

[Himu]

imagine thinking "full vaccinated" is a thing.

and yelping at the left for being too sciency.

For a citizen that complies you are woefully misinformed or very naive.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/586402-ny-governor-plans-to-add-booster-shot-to-definition-of-fully-vaccinated

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Fauci said earlier this month that it "it's going to be a matter of when, not if” the definition of being “fully vaccinated” changes, but he noted that the change likely was not going to happen right away.

fucking science man, always being non committal. You'd think you'd be more open to something like that.

[Himu]

Fauci said earlier this month that it "it's going to be a matter of when, not if” the definition of being “fully vaccinated” changes, but he noted that the change likely was not going to happen right away.

fucking science man, always being non committal. You'd think you'd be more open to something like that.

Ah. I forgot science is your ilks religion. Nice backtrack after being proven categorically wrong though.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

What's next you don't believe in evolution because new fossils keep being found out of nowhere?

Fucking clown.

[therealdeal]

Notice that throughout this discussion not one liberal or leftist has offered one single solution. Just feelings, guilt, and pointed fingers truly solidifying the weakness of their positions. All they know is comply. They refuse to engage in ideas or discussions. They can only villify and make twisted comparisons. Weak. Ineffectual. Crap.

You should probably figure out why you constantly need a “they” to rail against if you’re actually trying to grow like you say

[Himu]

What's next you don't believe in evolution because new fossils keep being found out of nowhere?

Fucking clown.

I believe in evolution and I believe in vaccines. I do not however believe in endless government creep. Whose the clown? Someone like you that swallows everything they regurgitate even to the point of making boosters mandatory? Seems so. Keep pointing and calling me names. You look utterly pathetic and I'm laughing at your squalid rhetoric.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

What's next you don't believe in evolution because new fossils keep being found out of nowhere?

Fucking clown.

I believe in evolution and I believe in vaccines. I do not however believe in endless government creep. Whose the clown? Someone like you that swallows everything they regurgitate even to the point of making boosters mandatory? Seems so. Keep pointing and calling me names. You look utterly pathetic and I'm laughing at your squalid rhetoric.

Government creep. Learn something about vaccine mandates in the US and how they have managed and prevented disasters and collapses.

I'll go ahead and swallow all these peer reviewed research and regurgitate this data that proves mandates and boosters minimize people dying on the fucking streets. ( you mentioned something about homeless right?)

  I think the street would kill you. Your rhetoric and your propaganda aren't gonna save you out there

[Great Rumbler]

I had to get vaccinated several times as a kid in order to attend a public school.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

rumbler invading

[Himu]

What's next you don't believe in evolution because new fossils keep being found out of nowhere?

Fucking clown.

I believe in evolution and I believe in vaccines. I do not however believe in endless government creep. Whose the clown? Someone like you that swallows everything they regurgitate even to the point of making boosters mandatory? Seems so. Keep pointing and calling me names. You look utterly pathetic and I'm laughing at your squalid rhetoric.

Government creep. Learn something about vaccine mandates in the US and how they have managed and prevented disasters and collapses.

I'll go ahead and swallow all these peer reviewed research and regurgitate this data that proves mandates and boosters minimize people dying on the fucking streets. ( you mentioned something about homeless right?)

  I think the street would kill you. Your rhetoric and your propaganda aren't gonna save you out there

I am enjoying your troglodytic tears. You know I believe and trust in science or else I wouldn't get three shots so you can't attack me there. You can't defend the government forcing vaccines and especially three shots so you can't attack me there. So you call me a clown and and accuse me of anti-evolution thought. It's pathetic. Behind your veil of wide teeth and a smug sneer I sense crocodile tears and hurt feelings. You know I'm not JayDubya and it bothers you so, so much.

Like most leftists you're nothing but a bully and like with all bullies your power is lost once I stop giving a shit.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

bringing up jaydubs out of nowhere


legit not sure what to do with that, except to imagine you doing that and then saying you don't give a shit.

I'm minting this nft right here and now, and demi is only a benefactor (30%)

[Cauliflower Of Love]

oh. lol, himu just did a post history search


fucking hell.

[Himu]

Fascism.

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1475843008239218689

Look at these COVID criminals. A family trying to eat.

Thankfully I'm at NYC GOP HQ right fucking now to offer my services.

[HardcoreRetro]

Try showing what actually happened. Found some guy in the comments saying this is what actually happened.

"No, a bunch of fucking idiots went into an Applebee's to protest having to wear a mask & did a "sit in" by taking up all the tables and started raising hell. They didn't leave when the manager asked, so the cops were called.

And a mom used her 6 yr old as a pawn."

I don't know what really happened, but this 2 minute video edited down to show only a certain part of what happened is basically the lugenpresse kind of shit people on the right like to rail against.

[Great Rumbler]

Try showing what actually happened. Found some guy in the comments saying this is what actually happened.

"No, a bunch of fucking idiots went into an Applebee's to protest having to wear a mask & did a "sit in" by taking up all the tables and started raising hell. They didn't leave when the manager asked, so the cops were called.

And a mom used her 6 yr old as a pawn."

I don't know what really happened, but this 2 minute video edited down to show only a certain part of what happened is basically the lugenpresse kind of shit people on the right like to rail against.

 

[Cauliflower Of Love]

thats disrespectful rumbler

dont appropriate the fallen.

gross

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Try showing what actually happened. Found some guy in the comments saying this is what actually happened.

"No, a bunch of fucking idiots went into an Applebee's to protest having to wear a mask & did a "sit in" by taking up all the tables and started raising hell. They didn't leave when the manager asked, so the cops were called.

And a mom used her 6 yr old as a pawn."

I don't know what really happened, but this 2 minute video edited down to show only a certain part of what happened is basically the lugenpresse kind of shit people on the right like to rail against.

Even though that's a more likely scenario than as presented, even if it wasn't which face of the GOP do we think will pretend to care?
The one actively attempting to prevent people without the correct documentation having access to things like jobs or voting?
The one that will champion the use of police services to protect a businesses right to do business in the face of disruption, up to and including overruling the right to protest?
The one fighting for the rights of businesses to be able to selectively offer their services and refuse customers, especially where the business deems those customers harmful to the rest of their business?

[Great Rumbler]

thats disrespectful rumbler

dont appropriate the fallen.

gross

The fallen deserve no respect.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

thats disrespectful rumbler

dont appropriate the fallen.

gross

The fallen deserve no respect.

holy shit

[BIONIC]

thats disrespectful rumbler

dont appropriate the fallen.

gross

The fallen deserve no respect.

I agree. Cindi brings a level of sophisticated and intellectual discussion that was missing from the bore DOT com. No more endless tweets and shit posts.

[Himu]

Try showing what actually happened. Found some guy in the comments saying this is what actually happened.

"No, a bunch of fucking idiots went into an Applebee's to protest having to wear a mask & did a "sit in" by taking up all the tables and started raising hell. They didn't leave when the manager asked, so the cops were called.

And a mom used her 6 yr old as a pawn."

I don't know what really happened, but this 2 minute video edited down to show only a certain part of what happened is basically the lugenpresse kind of shit people on the right like to rail against.

Link to tweet? Couldn't find it. Stand corrected if so

[HardcoreRetro]

It was quicker to just look up a news article on google. The tweet is basically buried in a quagmire of people showing their disgust, but not actually looking into what happened.

https://www.newsweek.com/video-shows-mom-child-being-kicked-out-restaurant-over-new-york-vaccine-mandate-1663708


When asked about the incident caught on video, an NYPD spokesperson provided Newsweek with information about the protest at the Applebees location, where several individuals entered the location without masks and refused to show their COVID-19 vaccine cards on December 15.

"Upon arrival, officers were informed by the manager that individuals entered, refused to prove vaccination status in compliance with NYS Mandate and requested for the individuals to be removed from the location," the NYPD spokesperson said.

The spokesperson added that four individuals were arrested following the protest and were charged with criminal trespass. The individuals seen in the video of the mother and child were not arrested.

Newsweek followed up with the NYPD to confirm that the incident on video occurred on the same date as the December 15 protest but did not receive a response in time for publication.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

kids shouldn't be allowed in restaurants

[HardcoreRetro]

Imagine being a manager at Applebees which already sounds like a fate worse than death and then having to deal with this bullshit.

 :'(

[Potato]

Bring back Nintex please.
The discussion in this thread is  . We need to go back.

[Himu]

It was quicker to just look up a news article on google. The tweet is basically buried in a quagmire of people showing their disgust, but not actually looking into what happened.

https://www.newsweek.com/video-shows-mom-child-being-kicked-out-restaurant-over-new-york-vaccine-mandate-1663708


When asked about the incident caught on video, an NYPD spokesperson provided Newsweek with information about the protest at the Applebees location, where several individuals entered the location without masks and refused to show their COVID-19 vaccine cards on December 15.

"Upon arrival, officers were informed by the manager that individuals entered, refused to prove vaccination status in compliance with NYS Mandate and requested for the individuals to be removed from the location," the NYPD spokesperson said.

The spokesperson added that four individuals were arrested following the protest and were charged with criminal trespass. The individuals seen in the video of the mother and child were not arrested.

Newsweek followed up with the NYPD to confirm that the incident on video occurred on the same date as the December 15 protest but did not receive a response in time for publication.

Good on them for protesting this tyranny. I'm proud of them and they're patriots. These rules are stupid. Thank you for providing this with a news source. I googled and couldn't find anything. Keep protesting and keep fighting! I fully support them.

Joe Biden's America indeed.

[HardcoreRetro]

Why bring your 6 year old to that shit though and it's not like the guy running the restaurant asked for these rules.

[Himu]

Why bring your 6 year old to that shit though and it's not like the guy running the restaurant asked for these rules.

So what? Black folks brought children to sit ins. How does that change that it's an injustice. Arrested for not showing vaccination proof in an Applebee's. Like I said before it's fascism and tyrannical. I feel very good having spoken to NY Republicans today and look forward to canvassing for them!

[Cauliflower Of Love]

ironically himu is a product of bidens america

[Cauliflower Of Love]

again, comparing civil rights to fucking medical vaccination.

fuking crazy pills i seem to be taking are grade AAA fauci approved.

[Himu]

again, comparing civil rights to fucking medical vaccination.

fuking crazy pills i seem to be taking are grade AAA fauci approved.

It is the American peoples civil right to eat in an establishment without being othered for not having taken a vaccine! It is the American peoples civil right to work without being terminated for not taking a vaccine! I do not like this precedent despite being vaxxed. It is morally wrong and the vaccine doesn't even stop the spread. This is illogical grand standing and nothing more.

[Occam]

Jesus H. Christ on a stick! You are such a moron.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

the vaccine doesn't even stop the spread.

You fucking idiot. The vaccine stops the virus from getting to the point of spreading.

It's the purpose of A vaccine.


Virus mutate and spread when it's allowed to spread. If you minimize the volume of the spread your can help to eradicate the virus because it can't spread further.


I'm going insane trying to explain this on simpler terms.

[Himu]

Like all leftists you are unable to see beyond the scope of your bubble. You say it's wrong to compare it to civil rights but this issue disproportionately affects black people.

https://news.yahoo.com/black-people-low-vaccination-rates-150200517.html

I will do all I can to canvass and flip as many seats in NY to spite your racist ideology of control or comply. Like all liberal policies, it is comply without thinking about results. It is only ever about how you feel. I pray for comeuppance and that it be swift.

https://www.westernjournal.com/vaccine-mandate-backlash-black-voters-just-sent-biden-unmistakable-message/

the vaccine doesn't even stop the spread.

You fucking idiot. The vaccine stops the virus from getting to the point of spreading.

It's the purpose of A vaccine.


Virus mutate and spread when it's allowed to spread. If you minimize the volume of the spread your can help to eradicate the virus because it can't spread further.


I'm going insane trying to explain this on simpler terms.

I can still get the virus as a vaccinated individual. I can still spread it. I'm very aware of virus mutations.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

black people being deprived of vaccines doesn't negate your stupid conjectures that unrelated to minorities being deprived of a voice.

You're using it as a tool to push stupid shit, the same way manchin, biden, trump and clinton try and twist shit.

Fuck you for saying I have racist ideology when you're actively perpetuating it.

[HardcoreRetro]

Some condoms break, so why use them at all?

[Himu]

black people being deprived of vaccines doesn't negate your stupid conjectures that unrelated to minorities being deprived of a voice.

You're using it as a tool to push stupid shit, the same way manchin, biden, trump and clinton try and twist shit.

Fuck you for saying I have racist ideology when you're actively perpetuating it.

Deprived of vaccines? No, the problem is a mandate that limits every day life which forces a vaccine against a persons personal choice. It is sinister. If you don't get that nothing will get through to you, racist enabler.

[HardcoreRetro]

Arrested for not showing vaccination proof in an Applebee's.

That's not what they got arrested for. They were asked by the owner to leave, which is seemingly one of the rights right-wing people love to fight for. Then they got arrested for not complying with the request to leave.

[Himu]

Arrested for not showing vaccination proof in an Applebee's.

That's not what they got arrested for. They were asked by the owner to leave, which is seemingly one of the rights right-wing people love to fight for. Then they got arrested for not complying with the request to leave.

They were arrested because they were asked to leave for refusing to comply to a vaccine mandate request. Good on them!

Please, in concrete terms, tell me a vaccine mandate or vaccine pass to eat in a restaurant is good.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

black people being deprived of vaccines doesn't negate your stupid conjectures that unrelated to minorities being deprived of a voice.

You're using it as a tool to push stupid shit, the same way manchin, biden, trump and clinton try and twist shit.

Fuck you for saying I have racist ideology when you're actively perpetuating it.

Deprived of vaccines? No, the problem is a mandate that limits every day life which forces a vaccine against a persons personal choice. It is sinister. If you don't get that nothing will get through to you, racist enabler.

Idiots like you spreading stupid shit about vaccines is sinister. While being tripple V'ed yourself. 

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Fucking selfish hypocrite.

[Himu]

black people being deprived of vaccines doesn't negate your stupid conjectures that unrelated to minorities being deprived of a voice.

You're using it as a tool to push stupid shit, the same way manchin, biden, trump and clinton try and twist shit.

Fuck you for saying I have racist ideology when you're actively perpetuating it.

Deprived of vaccines? No, the problem is a mandate that limits every day life which forces a vaccine against a persons personal choice. It is sinister. If you don't get that nothing will get through to you, racist enabler.

Idiots like you spreading stupid shit about vaccines is sinister. While being tripple V'ed yourself.

Spreading stupid shit about vaccines? Oh you mean like,"I think you should get the vaccine but think that forcing people to get one or forcing people to show proof of one in order to eat is immoral"? Boo hoo, leftist.

Nice double post. You mad? 

[Cauliflower Of Love]

yea i am, cause your stupid shit hurt people