Other Forums Containment Thread

[benjipwns]

I wish people could try to remember that internet people are actually real human beings.

Moderators are not people.

They are vermin whose only purpose is to destroy the very video game communities they oversee.

It's like Schrodinger's Rat.

You should take another shot at this one, darling.

[blaze]

New offshoot dropped

https://thepoliticalera.com/index.php

now that’s what a successful thriving forum looks like

[ldcommando (notthegafone)]

Maybe messy can offer some free counseling to help them cope in these trying times.

[benjipwns]

I mean sure eat the rich and all of that I get it. Mind you 4.5 Million isn’t even rich, that’s middle class equity.

Joe Manchin likes this post!

[HaughtyFrank]

New offshoot dropped

https://thepoliticalera.com/index.php

Last post in April 

[demi]

Oh man I forgot ManaByte is still a thing - do you think he's masturbating to this? It seems like a ManaByte thing to do, after being WRONGFULLY scorned and shamed

[benjipwns]

Oh man I forgot ManaByte is still a thing - do you think he's masturbating to this? It seems like a ManaByte thing to do, after being WRONGFULLY scorned and shamed

He has 77K+ followers on Twitter.
https://twitter.com/ManaByte/status/1448272076230443009

[james]

I can't find the Neogaf thread

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/resetera-ownership-update.499677/post-75241161

If you think there's a glut of people who are willing to mod Era, much less to the quality that Hecht does, good on you for being optimistic.

You're making the false assumption that "mod Era, much less to the quality that Hecht does" would be the owner's goal.

It isn't. It's increase revenue by 15% yoy, and that's going to involve changes in moderation policy no matter what bullshit was fed before the contract was signed.

Literally moderating less will be the entire point. And they will bring over mods from their other boards to "help" if the staff here step down, same as the Reddit admins do on a regular basis.

If you say so chief.

[remy]

One funny thing about all them talking about a "big corporation" taking over, is that it seems M.O.B.A. Network AB is at best, AT BEST, just a handful of people. Their reporting documents say they have less than ten employees total. (Or more specifically say they fit into the category for a company with less then ten employees.)

Those 10 employees probably get paid tho.

Therefore inferior to the ideologically pure reset staff, not tainted by the allure of capitalist profit

[porkbun]

I can't find the Neogaf thread

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/resetera-sold-to-m-o-b-a-network-for-usd-4-55-million.1621017/

[james]

I can't find the Neogaf thread

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/resetera-sold-to-m-o-b-a-network-for-usd-4-55-million.1621017/

The fuck is it doing in gaming

[blaze]

I can't find the Neogaf thread

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/resetera-sold-to-m-o-b-a-network-for-usd-4-55-million.1621017/

The fuck is it doing in gaming

Because it will win GOTY 2021

[benjipwns]

@BadLegalTakes:
https://twitter.com/ForceinUnison/status/1448749245964632064
https://twitter.com/CheapyD/status/1448619792798191617

[benjipwns]

I don't. MOBA do, they say in their statement that increasing revenue significantly is the goal, and this board has a flat to declining membership.

Perhaps if the moderators or admins could explain quite how this revenue increase is expected to happen then we could all set our mind at ease.

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/RoninStrife/status/1448686002948747274

@RoninStrife
PS1,PS2,PS3,PS4,PS5 gamer😁👍 My PC eats Series X for breakfast 🤣 Life's too short to play filler on Gamepass Gamepass🤮=death of long,story driven games

[Occam]

Hilarious. Saw this coming right after Resetera was founded. Back then someone created a thread about securing Resetera's future, and I and a few others argued it should be community-owned, to keep the forum from being sold and to prevent anyone from profiting off of it. When there was no response by the administration, I knew what was most likely going to happen eventually. And here we are.
The whole thing was basically a long con. Hahahahah.
I wonder if the mods are feeling like the cucks they are right about now?

[BIONIC]

Occam is back from liberating the Amazon   

[Shuri]

the moba fire forums has interesting views on women in gaming:
https://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/forum/competitive-scene/will-there-ever-be-women-pro-gamers-in-lcs-and-why-are-there-none-now-23138

the moba fire forums ask: "would you rather be gay or black":
https://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/forum/off-topic/would-you-rather-41042

Riot goes out of their way to appeal to the LGBT community, to make sure it's known that her sexuality is known. Yet, they do nothing of the sort for other characters of other sexualities.

This is not only unequality, it is blatant favoritism and discrimination against people who do not belong within the unique minority.

https://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/forum/general/is-anyone-else-bothered-by-the-discrimination-and-bigotry-expressed-by-riot-with-neekos-release-42984

Interesting commentary on Feminist Frequency
https://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/forum/off-topic/if-you-feel-like-watching-90-bs-for-a-few-minutes-24803

  what an userbase..

[HaughtyFrank]

the moba fire forums has interesting views on women in gaming:
https://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/forum/competitive-scene/will-there-ever-be-women-pro-gamers-in-lcs-and-why-are-there-none-now-23138

the moba fire forums ask: "would you rather be gay or black":
https://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/forum/off-topic/would-you-rather-41042

Riot goes out of their way to appeal to the LGBT community, to make sure it's known that her sexuality is known. Yet, they do nothing of the sort for other characters of other sexualities.

This is not only unequality, it is blatant favoritism and discrimination against people who do not belong within the unique minority.

https://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/forum/general/is-anyone-else-bothered-by-the-discrimination-and-bigotry-expressed-by-riot-with-neekos-release-42984

Interesting commentary on Feminist Frequency
https://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/forum/off-topic/if-you-feel-like-watching-90-bs-for-a-few-minutes-24803

  what an userbase..

Merge the forums! Merge the forums!

Edit: meh, their activity is pretty dead

[benjipwns]

Pair of Twitter threads from famous members:
https://twitter.com/Mendinso/status/1448683676791943170
https://twitter.com/timeachris/status/1448657173991489537

[Nintex]

oh god Mendinso.

That motherfucker that thought Super Mario was impossible. 

https://twitter.com/Mendinso/status/1251974042258681856

[Shuri]

This new Resetera Extended Umbrella Universe is quite something 

https://www.mmo-champion.com/forums/251-Off-Topic-Forums

This forum seems super active tho. Pretty neat *AND* well moderated. Racists are banned on sight.

[james]

Someone post Kristoffer screenshots he was always the most gullible mod

[Vertigo]

https://twitter.com/RoninStrife/status/1448686002948747274

@RoninStrife
PS1,PS2,PS3,PS4,PS5 gamer😁👍 My PC eats Series X for breakfast 🤣 Life's too short to play filler on Gamepass Gamepass🤮=death of long,story driven games

Reee was so Xbot dominated that a bulk of Xbox fans went off and made their own forum.

[Raist]

https://twitter.com/Mendinso/status/1448683676791943170

What an amazing thread.

tl;dr

"Yeah yeah yeah, accessibility is usually about sight or hearing impairment blabla but...

We need to talk about Dark Souls mmmkaaay?"

[benjipwns]

extract synergies

spoiler (click to show/hide)

he calls it "ResetERA.com" every single time

[close]

[Nintex]

Why the hell would companies want to expose themselves to such a toxic place 

[Tektonic]

MOBA? More like BOFA!
BOFA DEEZ NUTZ!

this is the quality content that will get thebore at least 4.6M on the open market.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/resetera-ownership-update.499677/page-33#post-75213240

User Banned (Permanent): Trolling, history of severe infractions

1. Cancel Tyler.
2. Create a site full of his site's members.
3. Go even woker.
4. Sell all your assets and member information to a toxic MOBA Community investor.
5. Profit.

It's really pretty smart. Enjoy the shitty site everyone!

LET'S GO BRANDON!

I don't know how big this is outside Nascar but "let's go Brandon" is a right-wing meme for "fuck Joe Biden."

[Great Rumbler]

lmao cerium got that paper o7

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-kernel-driver-for-call-of-dutys-new-anti-cheat-called-ricochet-has-been-leaked-p2c-devs-are-already-reverse-engineering-it.500310/#post-75229785

User Banned (1 week): Inappropriate comparison, prior ban for similar behavior

This is like the fall of Afghanistan in a damn day lol

[benjipwns]

So who should I talk to in order to get back the Switch Lite worth of $ I spent on Era Clear since early 2018 ?

Because clearly that subscription stopped being needed for the forum's survival and just became a profit thing quite early in Era's lifetime.

[Potato]

Remember when gamers complained about having to pay subscription fees for online services?

These fucks are willingly paying subs for a shitty forum.
 

[Uncle]

It's not that easy. The site won't be GDPR compliant by just deleting your posts and changing your name. The way the site handles deleting posts is not GDPR compliant because quoted replies still contain your post and an identifier.

Worse than that, they contain the original username.

Personally, I'd hate if they fixed this.

> era deletes user, name is now Deleted User #644832
> quoted replies still say "riotous" which GDPR demands scrubbed
> era mods: areyoukiddingme.bmp
> knowing no other solution, staff ctrl+f replace every instance of text "riotous" with "Deleted User #644832" in the raw database
> problemsolved.mov
> use this method for dozens of requests without incident
> later, the user "woman" requests deletion

[Tektonic]

> era deletes user, name is now Deleted User #644832
> quoted replies still say "riotous" which GDPR demands scrubbed
> era mods: areyoukiddingme.bmp
> knowing no other solution, staff ctrl+f replace every instance of text "riotous" with "Deleted User #644832" in the raw database
> problemsolved.mov
> use this method for dozens of requests without incident
> later, the user "woman" requests deletion

but that would lead to Deleted User #644832 laughter

[Jansen]

This site is worth $4,500,000, makes over $700,000 a year and yet mods choose to work here practically full time for free. Get some self respect.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/resetera-ownership-update.499677/page-58#post-75245037

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/fia-formula-one-2021-ot-ive-got-to-stop-because-ive-got-a-lump-in-my-throat.399904/page-376#post-75224772

It seems unthinkable that there is now no South American representation in F1.

Apart from Pérez.

There ever been an actual team?

Mexico is North America not South America.

 

[BIONIC]

This site is worth $4,500,000, makes over $700,000 a year and yet mods choose to work here practically full time for free. Get some self respect.

Just like having too high of an IQ stops you from being a cop, having any shred of self-respect automatically disqualifies you from being a ree mod.

[Jansen]

​https://www.resetera.com/threads/resetera-ownership-update.499677/page-57#post-75244839

"Sure I want labor to be paid " Dawg do you have problems reading? Paying mods would be cool but if they don't want to be paid then I don't care. Why are you struggling to understand this simple concept? Guess that god complex beating your ass huh.



I'm not infantilizing them they say

"But I don't agree, I believe labor should be paid for their work, unpopular with a lot of people (even the workers in this case if that truly is the case)."

As they continue to infantilize them. Dawg just say you don't truly give a shit about them. And stop forcing your opinion on people lmfao. Real "Shut up distinguished black fellow I know what's good for you" energy. Also, why are we comparing volunteer work to unions? You do understand the differences between a job and volunteer work right?

 

[Uncle]

This site is worth $4,500,000, makes over $700,000 a year and yet mods choose to work here practically full time for free. Get some self respect.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/resetera-ownership-update.499677/page-58#post-75245037

horseshoe theory in action

the sheer amount of disrespect for "jannies" in sites ideologically opposite resetera.com 

[HaughtyFrank]

Hope a majority of that cash is going to some good causes :/

 

[Don Rumata]

This site is worth $4,500,000, makes over $700,000 a year and yet mods choose to work here practically full time for free. Get some self respect.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/resetera-ownership-update.499677/page-58#post-75245037

horseshoe theory in action

the sheer amount of disrespect for "jannies" in sites ideologically opposite resetera.com 

[Snoopycat_]

Planetsmasher  -

Some of y'all are being so dramatic. And I say this as someone who regularly gets up on stage and does monologues and ridiculously melodramatic songs.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/resetera-ownership-update.499677/page-45#post-75227424

[benjipwns]

I'm genuinely impressed with how good the grift was.

Preach transparency and a "fresh start". Do literally none of that shit while perpetually and consistently pissing off various underserved subcommunities. Do all of this off the back of presumably underpaid, if not outright free, moderation labor. Sit back and allow said labor to consistently and continuously get shit on because this forum's shitty, inconsistent rules could never be appropriately articulated or codified. Bounce after 4 years with a giant parachute of money.

Top shelf, Cerium. Top shelf.

Alright I have thought about this whole thing after my last post and I've come to the conclusion that this is not what most of us or at least myself envisioned when we moved here. To realize the amt of money cerium has made yearly on the backs of a free labor, all of our posts generating discussions, what exactly was cerium doing to dignify 700 grand a year. And now you sell our community, a community made up of individuals that love gaming but also love each other. I don't post anywhere near the amt of some of the power users here but I left the old website to be part of a community that I thought would be better than evil and neo, a community run forum that isn't as vitriolic as the past< with the occasional console warriors being exhausting but still the underlying point=respect>Community first. I had no idea cerium owned the whole thing until today. To know the amt of money cerium has made yearly off of admins/mods and all us posters and then TO STILL SELL to a random whatever the hell moba is besides a flash in a pan company. No this sucks, I guess just close my account. Not going to support this.

[benjipwns]

This site is worth $4,500,000, makes over $700,000 a year and yet mods choose to work here practically full time for free. Get some self respect.

I respect myself plenty, thank you.

[ZombieSupaStar]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/resetera-ownership-update.499677/page-57#post-75245016

it seems like this place really wouldn't like some of the other forums owned by these folks.
 

:

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ign-middle-east-no-jim-ryan-gaming-in-the-middle-east-existed-long-before-playstation.498039/#post-74976621

User banned (1 month): Dismissive commentary over a series of posts on a sensitive topic

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ign-middle-east-no-jim-ryan-gaming-in-the-middle-east-existed-long-before-playstation.498039/#post-74976705

User banned (1 week): Trolling in a sensitive thread. Account in junior phase

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ign-middle-east-no-jim-ryan-gaming-in-the-middle-east-existed-long-before-playstation.498039/#post-74976723

User banned (1 week): Dismissive commentary over a sensitive topic

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ign-middle-east-no-jim-ryan-gaming-in-the-middle-east-existed-long-before-playstation.498039/#post-74976828

User banned (1 week): Dismissive commentary over a sensitive topic

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ign-middle-east-no-jim-ryan-gaming-in-the-middle-east-existed-long-before-playstation.498039/#post-74976882

User banned (1 week): Dismissive commentary on a sensitive topic

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ign-middle-east-no-jim-ryan-gaming-in-the-middle-east-existed-long-before-playstation.498039/page-2#post-74977362

User banned (1 week): Dismissive commentary over a sensitive topic

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ign-middle-east-no-jim-ryan-gaming-in-the-middle-east-existed-long-before-playstation.498039/page-2#post-74977926

User banned (2 weeks): Dismissive commentary over a sensitive topic, multiple prior bans for console wars

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ign-middle-east-no-jim-ryan-gaming-in-the-middle-east-existed-long-before-playstation.498039/page-3#post-74978988

User banned (1 week): Dismissive commentary over a sensitive topic

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ign-middle-east-no-jim-ryan-gaming-in-the-middle-east-existed-long-before-playstation.498039/page-3#post-74978991

User banned (3 days): Trolling. Metacommentary.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ign-middle-east-no-jim-ryan-gaming-in-the-middle-east-existed-long-before-playstation.498039/page-3#post-74982285

User banned (3 days): Trolling. Metacommentary.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ign-middle-east-no-jim-ryan-gaming-in-the-middle-east-existed-long-before-playstation.498039/page-4#post-74983734

User banned (3 days) and threadbanned: Thread derailment, trolling, junior account

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ign-middle-east-no-jim-ryan-gaming-in-the-middle-east-existed-long-before-playstation.498039/page-4#post-74983962

User Banned (1 week): Dismissive commentary in a sensitive thread

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ign-middle-east-no-jim-ryan-gaming-in-the-middle-east-existed-long-before-playstation.498039/page-6#post-75009207

User banned (2 weeks): Dismissive commentary over a sensitive topic

No perms or duration pending. Were they worrying about user numbers before the sale?

[benjipwns]

Taking a break from acquisition mania for another "sensitive" topic alert:

User Banned (2 Weeks): Trolling on a Sensitive Topic; Account in Junior Phase

WORST: Dragon Quest

Fuck this lame 90s midi shit. Glad the composer is dead, maybe we can get better quality tracks in a sequel.

Wow that's kinda harsh.

The dude was an IRL supervillain.

Aren't we all?

[Hap Shaughnessy]

This site is worth $4,500,000, makes over $700,000 a year and yet mods choose to work here practically full time for free. Get some self respect.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/resetera-ownership-update.499677/page-58#post-75245037

https://www.resetera.com/threads/resetera-ownership-update.499677/page-59#post-75247644

User Banned (Permanent): Troll Account

How are you gonna fuckin tell someone they don't respect themselves like you know anything about them? Ignorant.

There's no need for foul language.

Edit:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/resetera-ownership-update.499677/page-59#post-75247503\

I respect myself plenty, thank you.

Agree to disagree.

[benjipwns]

hey remember that Kotaku story from last week about ActivisionBlizzard "shredding" documents that everyone was throwing fits about

weirdly Kotaku has not run this story, nor have any other major gaming outlets that I can tell, except PC Gamer:

EEOC quickly responded with a memorandum of points opposing the DFEH's appeal that contain one pretty legally stunning revelation that leaves the case looking like it's going to become an enormous mess.

The long and short is that the DFEH case has been led by two lawyers who previously worked for the EEOC, and while working for the EEOC they investigated Activision Blizzard in relation to the claims that have led to the settlement. The settlement that they are now objecting to.

If true this would be a conflict of interest, a breach of professional ethics, and a violation of Californian law on the conduct of attorneys. Per the memorandum:

"Specifically, two DFEH attorneys—who play leadership roles within the organization—previously served as EEOC who helped to direct the EEOC's investigation into Commissioner's Charge No. 480-2018-05212 against Activision Blizzard, Inc. These same attorneys then proceeded to represent DFEH in connection with these intervention proceedings, which seek to oppose the consent decree that arose out of the very investigation they helped to direct while at the EEOC."

This is a breach of the California Rule of Professional Conduct, and the EEOC claims it applies to all of the DFEH's attorneys on the case. Making matters worse is that the DFEH seems to have belatedly realised this itself, and tried to fudge its way out in some unconvincing ways. The EEOC's memorandum claims that it basically hired new lawyers then, a few hours later, served an appeal that clearly must have had involvement from the two lawyers in question.

"After being informed of this conflict, DFEH retained new counsel but appears to have filed the present intervention motion just hours after this counsel was retained, strongly suggesting that the motion is a product of the prohibited representation. For this reason, the intervention motion should be disallowed and DFEH attorneys should be barred from providing work product to, or advising, new counsel in connection with these intervention proceedings."

The two lawyers in question had been directly confronted by the EEOC about this conflict of interest prior to these latest legal documents. When this happened, the lawyers simply left the call: "DFEH Attorney 2 began to speak regarding the merits of the intervention motion, but Ms. Park reiterated EEOC's objections regarding the conflict-of-interest rules [...] After EEOC counsel continued to voice objections to discussing the merits of the case with DFEH attorneys, Ms. Wipper and DFEH Attorneys 1 and 2 disconnected from the call."

OK, so we have a potential ethics violation. What are the consequences? The EEOC says that not only were the two attorneys substantially involved in the case but, as they were directing other DFEH solicitors, the DFEH's entire legal department should be barred from taking this objection forward:

"There can be no claim that there was timely 'isolation of [these] lawyers from any participation' in representing DFEH in connection with the intervention proceedings, as would be necessary to show that timely screening took place. Thus, all DFEH attorneys were and should remain barred from representing DFEH in this matter."

It goes on to say that the work done so far by the DFEH is now "a product of prohibited representation and should bar DFEH attorneys from providing work product or advice to current counsel relating to these proceedings".

If you want the instant reaction from someone who knows what he's talking about, Andrew Torrez is a Harvard-educated lawyer who runs the Opening Arguments podcast. He wrote the following thread about this memorandum:

"The EEOC, understandably, freaked out [about the two lawyers]. DFEH quickly engaged outside counsel and put new folks in charge of the intervention, but if the facts are as they appear, the *entire* DFEH investigation may violate Rule 1.11(a)(2) of Calif. Rules of Prof Conduct which explicitly prohibit former governmental employees from "represent[ing] a client in connection with a matter in which the lawyer participated personally and substantially as a public official or employee" without prior written consent which apparently didn't happen. If DFEH just *failed to screen* the former EEOC lawyers, it's in trouble. But if it let those lawyers RUN THE INVESTIGATION OF ACTIVISION without permission from the EEOC, things are going to get very ugly. Can't wait to see DFEH's side!"

The attorney Richard Hoeg called this development "a pretty massive thing, and if true would call into question large portions of the DFEH process (certainly as against the EEOC directly). It might even provide Activision with its own defense to the original suit. Stay tuned."

In semi-related news:
https://twitter.com/HoegLaw/status/1448638870812348416
https://twitter.com/HoegLaw/status/1448653215998775296

[ZombieSupaStar]

Imagine volunteering to deal with users the caliber of RedMercury and Incelsior for free...

[nudemacusers]

 

 

[benjipwns]

This site is worth $4,500,000, makes over $700,000 a year and yet mods choose to work here practically full time for free. Get some self respect.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/resetera-ownership-update.499677/page-58#post-75245037

https://www.resetera.com/threads/resetera-ownership-update.499677/page-59#post-75247644

User Banned (Permanent): Troll Account

How are you gonna fuckin tell someone they don't respect themselves like you know anything about them? Ignorant.

There's no need for foul language.

an inviting bonfire

[benjipwns]

Why the FUCK would mods not want to get paid? Here's an idea: pay the mods appropriately except for the ones who want to be hairy potter house elves for some reason dumb reason.

Speaking for myself, I was able to be a part of something greater as a staff member. I had no interest in the money at all. My time as both a moderator and an admin helped me grow significantly as a person, relate my own struggles with disability and gender identity to others, and nourished friendships and relationships that have lasted to this day. While there was definitely conflict and struggle while I was on staff, I still have some incredible, life changing memories. The skills I obtained also carried over into my actual job, once I got into my field too. So in that sense, what I did at Era prepared me for life later on.

Being paid would have changed the dynamics of everything that happened significantly, and wouldn't have necessarily made anything easier or better for me.

I don't regret being a part of staff at all as a volunteer, and I have no reason to be concerned about the ownership update myself.

[nudemacusers]

Goddamn the resetera ads are brutal. Thank god the bire mods are too dumb/lazy/fat/old/inbred/gay to foist this upon our tiny community

[nudemacusers]

Why would someone volunteer at a soup kitchen or any charitable organisation 🤷🏻‍♂️

Nm this post was worth wading through all the pull down and ugly design-molesting background wallpaper ads.

[Lonewulfeus]

Goddamn the resetera ads are brutal. Thank god the bire mods are too dumb/lazy/fat/old/inbred/gay to foist this upon our tiny community

How many of those things do you have to be to get modded here, I’ve easily got 3 covered and could make an argument for a 4th

[benjipwns]

Why the FUCK would mods not want to get paid? Here's an idea: pay the mods appropriately except for the ones who want to be hairy potter house elves for some reason dumb reason.

Maybe don't compare willful volunteering to a sloppily-done metaphor for happy negroes made by a transphobe.

[nudemacusers]

It’s like voltron, you need all the pieces to make a whole. Bork has old, Demi has gay, the dog and fire bomb guy have inbred, so I guess you’ll need to fill out the rest.