Other Forums Containment Thread

[Joe Molotov]

moba deez nuts

[Nintex]

what the fuck is even mobas game (other than selling data)? hope to flip their company to some vc suckers? that seems about as appealing to investors as trying to sell a chain of video rental shops like 12 years ago

It's an interesting part of the economy that is not well known.

There's auction places for ecommerce sites, communities, apps and all sorts of things.
People just buy those things 'as is' as an investment because once they generate revenue and growth there's not much to maintain until they slowly die off.
Say you buy ResetEra for $4.5 million and the ads bring in an average $250k a month, it means you're profitable in 18 months.

Considering the site will at least stay online, backlinked by Nintendie blogs and indexed for the next 3 - 5 years (even if everyone stops posting) you could still be looking at a $10 million profit on your $4.5 million purchase if you do nothing but keep the lights on.
It's like being an online landlord and most of these folks just hire someone with a technical background to look after things.

[jorma]

what the fuck is even mobas game (other than selling data)? hope to flip their company to some vc suckers? that seems about as appealing to investors as trying to sell a chain of video rental shops like 12 years ago

don't know, but i just found out that a fund i've invested in owns 10% of this company. i guess i have a bigger stake in resetera now than any of the mods do! 

but seriously this fund is managed by two of the most renowned tech fund managers in sweden, and they ceirtanly didn't buy for shits and giggles like i indend to...

[BisMarckie]

but seriously this fund is managed by two of the most renowned tech fund managers in sweden, and they ceirtanly didn't buy for shits and giggles like i indend to...

The Jamesson brotrhers fund.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

what the fuck is even mobas game (other than selling data)? hope to flip their company to some vc suckers? that seems about as appealing to investors as trying to sell a chain of video rental shops like 12 years ago

don't know, but i just found out that a fund i've invested in owns 10% of this company. i guess i have a bigger stake in resetera now than any of the mods do! 

but seriously this fund is managed by two of the most renowned tech fund managers in sweden, and they ceirtanly didn't buy for shits and giggles like i indend to...

They probably realized how much valuable data is there from the doxx registrations.

[jorma]

but seriously this fund is managed by two of the most renowned tech fund managers in sweden, and they ceirtanly didn't buy for shits and giggles like i indend to...

The Jamesson brotrhers fund.

i did say two of the most, it's not like i have the capital to be invited to invest with the jamesson bros...

[Risible]

I’ve been quiet, but only because I’ve been in the forum drama equivalent of a food coma. I’ve had my belt unbuckled all weekend and still feel wonderfully bloated. The dishes just keep coming and are Soooo tasty.

In other sick burn news:

Nepenthe said:
We represent a company as much as the other forums do.

Those forums are right wing hellholes.

If you think MOBA is about to come in here and tell us to be "nicer," I have a bridge to sell you.

Does it look like the bridge you bought when you started moderating for free on a community oriented forum before you realized that you were actually just building value for one person to actualize?

 

Imagine struggling to pay off the shitty-terms car loan you got conned into by your step-dad while the guy who profited off your "work" is swimming Scrooge McDuck-like a in a pile of dolla dolla bills yo.  The sting must be equivalent to a million bees.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Did hetch log into the wrong account?

I laughed at this and then got hushed by the cop hauling me in for insider trading.

Ok, they definitely got some etherium from cerium

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Maybe cerium gave them ecerium crypto instead.

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[zomgee]

what the fuck is even mobas game (other than selling data)? hope to flip their company to some vc suckers? that seems about as appealing to investors as trying to sell a chain of video rental shops like 12 years ago

It's an interesting part of the economy that is not well known.

There's auction places for ecommerce sites, communities, apps and all sorts of things.
People just buy those things 'as is' as an investment because once they generate revenue and growth there's not much to maintain until they slowly die off.
Say you buy ResetEra for $4.5 million and the ads bring in an average $250k a month, it means you're profitable in 18 months.

Considering the site will at least stay online, backlinked by Nintendie blogs and indexed for the next 3 - 5 years (even if everyone stops posting) you could still be looking at a $10 million profit on your $4.5 million purchase if you do nothing but keep the lights on.
It's like being an online landlord and most of these folks just hire someone with a technical background to look after things.

If that's the case (and it certainly sounds plausible) hasn't ResetEra already been selling their data by having ads in the first place? Ads are tailored to users based on tracking - the value isn't the horseshit you post, it's your presence.

If ads were tailored based on content it'd all be ads for Nissan Versas and Kleenex.

Even further: Hey dummies - you have already been sold. You were part of the package.

[james]

If I bought a website, I would immediately look up everyones username and password. Most people repeat passwords. So you have full access to their entire life. Once youre in the email, you know every service theyve signed up to.

And bork, if youre curious, my Bore password of "Nintex4Admin!" is unique to this website

[HaughtyFrank]

Then this thread is stuck at a never ending game of "He says she says" where those involved in the sale say nothing will change and others here claim they are lying. This thread being 130+ pages is proof of that. People demanded answers and when given them immediately refute those answers as false and demand the truth and then staff once again repeats what they said previously is the truth and its once again claimed by some users to not be true and so on.

People are free to believe that staff are lying, people are free to believe anything they want about anything. The fact remains however is that there's nothing at all to be gained in this thread if the only responses to staff explaining that nothing will change is that they are lying.

But the staff wasn't involved in the sale  The only one who was pissed off with his millions

So far they have shown nothing that ensures they know any shit beyond a pinky promise. It sounds like they didn't even have contact with MOBA

Why are they pretending to be so fucking dense?

[ShutUp]

What answers have been given? 

[Cauliflower Of Love]

So they are saying they were more involved in the sale.

Which means, Cerium is taking the cash, never paid them, had them help broker the sale and set it up so they don't get paid, AND fend for themselves after the sale.

All while cerium takes a *checks note* 96hour(?) nap for his mental health, and recruiting volunteer mods?

[Kurt Russell]

but seriously this fund is managed by two of the most renowned tech fund managers in sweden, and they ceirtanly didn't buy for shits and giggles like i indend to...

 

[zomgee]

As CeriumWatch (tm) approaches the 100 hour mark, most are asking: why wouldn't the moderators not potentially never want to get nonpayment for doing a job that possibly could not be considered non employment?

[Potato]

If any of the users had self respect they would fuck off to one of the multiple splinter forums that have been set up in the past three months alone.


However...

[Tuckers Law]

Rioutous willingly posts there for discussion, so yeah…

[Potato]

Rioutous willingly posts there for discussion, so yeah…

See below

If any of the users had self respect they would fuck off to one of the multiple splinter forums that have been set up in the past three months alone.


However...

[KillRideMedley]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/thank-you-sakurai-beautiful-smash-tribute-video-just-posted-by-gvg.502425/post-75464937/

 

[bork]

If I bought a website, I would immediately look up everyones username and password. Most people repeat passwords. So you have full access to their entire life. Once youre in the email, you know every service theyve signed up to.

And bork, if youre curious, my Bore password of "Nintex4Admin!" is unique to this website

[Shuri]

People were OK with  giving away their infos to Resetera LLC. It was in good faith. It would stay in the community.

People  are not ok with their infos now being resold to a  big data broker tho

  this is why some people are angery. They feel betrayed, in a way.



In simple resetera users terms:

The users were renting an appartement in a small friendly coop building for years, but as it turns  out, one guy slowly bought out the entire block without you knowing and resold to a mystery landlord corp and btw all the security footage from the cameras around the building meant to protect you from hate groups and criminal elements?

Yeah well that shit was sold too, to that mystery company, and nobody knows what they will do with years of footage and super detailled security logs.

The building’s maintenance crew members, who also live in the same building with you, knew about this for a while and are cracking jokes when tentants are asking questions about what’s gonna happen to their community.

Also the ownership change notice was printed on a sheet of paper in the storage area. People cant discuss about it outside of that damn basement, and the maintenance crew all invited their buddies to scream inane shit over people trying to find out what the fuck is going on and the janitors also announced that free pizza will be distributed so now the damn basement is crowded as hell and nobody can talk about serious stuff about the community.

Maybe the maintenance crew doesn’t care about users but those users built themselves spots to hang out with other like minded users and that’s why people are so concerned. Years of discussions, friendships and whatnot are in jeopardy. People are worried :/

Meanwhile the maintenance crew are making scenes about how nobody respects them and making it all about themselves in the basement.

[remy]

In simple resetera users terms:

The users were renting an appartement in a small friendly coop building for years, but as it turns  out, one guy slowly bought out the entire block without you knowing and resold to a mystery landlord corp and btw all the security footage from the cameras around the building meant to protect you from hate groups and criminal elements?

Yeah well that shit was sold too, to that mystery company, and nobody knows what they will do with years of footage and super detailled security logs.

The building’s maintenance crew members, who also live in the same building with you, knew about this for a while and are cracking jokes when tentants are asking questions about what’s gonna happen to their community.

Also the ownership change notice was printed on a sheet of paper in the storage area.

what is this crackery? shut up cracker   

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for the record i think you pretty much summed it up

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[cosmicblizzard]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/thank-you-sakurai-beautiful-smash-tribute-video-just-posted-by-gvg.502425/post-75464937/

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/thank-you-sakurai-beautiful-smash-tribute-video-just-posted-by-gvg.502425/page-2#post-75471456

Guy that made the video isn't happy.  We might have another Dark1x situation on our hands.

[Yulwei]

If any of the users had self respect they would fuck off to one of the multiple splinter forums that have been set up in the past three months alone.


However...

They were Cerium's unwitting content farm for years. Now they'll be some shady poker guy's willing content farm for many more years. 

[Nintex]

People were OK with  giving away their infos to Resetera LLC. It was in good faith. It would stay in the community.

People  are not ok with their infos now being resold to a  big data broker tho

  this is why some people are angery. They feel betrayed, in a way.



In simple resetera users terms:

The users were renting an appartement in a small friendly coop building for years, but as it turns  out, one guy slowly bought out the entire block without you knowing and resold to a mystery landlord corp and btw all the security footage from the cameras around the building meant to protect you from hate groups and criminal elements?

Yeah well that shit was sold too, to that mystery company, and nobody knows what they will do with years of footage and super detailled security logs.

The building’s maintenance crew members, who also live in the same building with you, knew about this for a while and are cracking jokes when tentants are asking questions about what’s gonna happen to their community.

Also the ownership change notice was printed on a sheet of paper in the storage area. People cant discuss about it outside of that damn basement, and the maintenance crew all invited their buddies to scream inane shit over people trying to find out what the fuck is going on and the janitors also announced that free pizza will be distributed so now the damn basement is crowded as hell and nobody can talk about serious stuff about the community.

Shuri
It's Pizza Time!

[Shuri]

In simple resetera users terms:

The users were renting an appartement in a small friendly coop building for years, but as it turns  out, one guy slowly bought out the entire block without you knowing and resold to a mystery landlord corp and btw all the security footage from the cameras around the building meant to protect you from hate groups and criminal elements?

Yeah well that shit was sold too, to that mystery company, and nobody knows what they will do with years of footage and super detailled security logs.

The building’s maintenance crew members, who also live in the same building with you, knew about this for a while and are cracking jokes when tentants are asking questions about what’s gonna happen to their community.

Also the ownership change notice was printed on a sheet of paper in the storage area.

what is this crackery? shut up cracker   

Ok Perfect reply 

[Nintex]

I think everyone needed this levity y'all

[BIONIC]

I think everyone needed this levity y'all

This sort of crackery is why I joined the bore in the first place. Great example of what this community can be.

[demi]

anyone need a tag? haha, tags are a means of expression, but if only i was doing the expressing for you. you dont actually have any say on this. haha

[clothedmacuser]

anyone need a tag? haha, tags are a means of expression, but if only i was doing the expressing for you. you dont actually have any say on this. haha

It's the best kind of fun.  The mod approved kind.

[Drainage]

Honestly I don’t know how someone wound as tightly as dark1x made it any length of time on ree

It’s fun to still see his sidekick get mired in the dregs of shit from time to time, he seems to enjoy confrontation

[bork]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/thank-you-sakurai-beautiful-smash-tribute-video-just-posted-by-gvg.502425/post-75464937/

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/thank-you-sakurai-beautiful-smash-tribute-video-just-posted-by-gvg.502425/page-2#post-75471456

Guy that made the video isn't happy.  We might have another Dark1x situation on our hands.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/thank-you-sakurai-beautiful-smash-tribute-video-just-posted-by-gvg.502425/page-2#post-75471537

None of us believe that any of you are bad people, let me make that 100% clear. The only issues we have are more with Scott the Woz as well as Smash's anti-Blackness as a whole, the latter of which isn't your fault & the former could have easily been out of ignorance (especially considering how quickly you condemned RelaxAlax, the person Scott defended). We otherwise respect the effort you all put into the video.

[Tektonic]

Cerium is a soft, ductile, and silvery-white metal that tarnishes when exposed to air, and it is soft enough to be cut with a steel kitchen knife .

he just like his element, except he has 4.5million

[Potato]

My main question is why are we as a community staying on this website now that it has been sold to a large corporation (a pretty questionable one at that)? This website is only worth the amount of money it is because of the community populating it, why the hell aren't we just starting a new site where the money generated doesn't go to a company that supports alt right BS. Shit we could even start it as an actual community run forum and give the profits away to charity (or staff). Shit it would be pretty cool each year if we could announce we're giving a few hundred thousand dollars to a charity. Instead of just having OT's say 'trans rights are human rights' we could actually donate that money to charities supporting trans people.


Nothing is tying us to this forum and by staying we're just giving that money to a large corporation when it could be going to a far better cause

Natives are getting restless. Time for another custom tag circle jerk

[Drainage]

Is Cerium soft? I can’t say. I can only say juggling 4.5 million dollars worth of sharp knives for 4 years without losing a finger would take a toll on anyones mental health. He should be back to answer questions any week now; he’s still getting used to the time change.

[benjipwns]

Also the constructive thread has a member mad their thread got closed:

Some members have lived experiences and some are still dealing with the aftermath and don't want to see thread that turns these serious, sensitive issues into a fight against other serious issues in a dumb forum vs scenario. "If you refuse to pick, they kill you." There are members on the forum who has actually felt threatened because of Trump enabling bigotry. Not even any warning in the thread title

.

This is exceedingly stupid.

[Drainage]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/thank-you-sakurai-beautiful-smash-tribute-video-just-posted-by-gvg.502425/post-75464937/

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/thank-you-sakurai-beautiful-smash-tribute-video-just-posted-by-gvg.502425/page-2#post-75471456

Guy that made the video isn't happy.  We might have another Dark1x situation on our hands.

Less than 60 seconds after the thread with the video was created

Scrubbed through the video (I don't have 40+ minutes of for this) and didn't seem to see any people of color or women? Granted I don't know smash pros anymore than I know streamers but...

Probably shouldn't judge if you're only quickly scrubbing through.

This is a video from other YouTube content creators not "Smash Pros" and yes, there are people of color in there.

Wow, bring it down. I don't think I had any sort of final judgment there, and I mentioned both streamers and smash pros or whatever. Don't lash out cause this video at first blush looks very monochromatic.

[benjipwns]

Also keep in mind that while GDPR only applies to members based in the EU, we have offered the same policy to all members as a courtesy and will continue to do so.

Good news, you're now an EU corporation!

[ShutUp]

“Monochromatic”

Trying to be sneaky with their racism now. Also, imagine calling a game from Japanese developers “Anti-Black”.

[ShutUp]

Not really a fan of putting a single game directors on a pedestal above the massive dev team that all worked on the game. It really should be "thank you Namco Bandai" they've been working on this series non-stop since Smash 4.

Neil Druckmann no longer exists.

[benjipwns]

As far as I can tell they haven't been ignored. B-dubs has addressed them multiple times now

See here (indirectly) here (directly) and here (directly again)

The concerns FeD has made has been answered and replied to directly multiple times by Bdubs. There little much else that B-dubs or any staff member can say at this point if FeD isn't happy with and refuses to accept the responses given to them and keeps asking the same thing over and over that's already been addressed and replied to numerous times.

And again, if you’ve taken the time to read my question. When the argument is made that they are not selling the information “because they are not in the business of selling” and I quite literally find out that they are in the business of selling personal data through a loophole, which again I also state might have numerous causes for why that information wasn’t disclosed. And at that point I can just ask the GM to look into it? Is that really that unreasonable?

As I’ve now also said multiple times, there’s a clear loophole present in the privacy policy of a subsidiary. That’s what triggered me and what I’m not trusting. I don’t get why I’m being made out for some spreader of misinformation. Everything in that post is sourced information. But please continue painting me to be the bad guy. Not the company that said they are not in the business of selling personal data but are with the subsidiary that oversees the majority of community sites.

Edit: And because it is now clear to me you have not read my initial post. I’m not even asking a question in the post where B-Dubs is replying to. I only state information found on various privacy policies. Only after B-Dubs response I ask him to look into it because something doesn’t add up. And that sole question from my side has been ignored.

They're honestly not really good responses. They don't address any of the points they bring up except vague platitudes.

[benjipwns]

I am going to say this one final time and I hope you're all listening:

OFFICIAL STAFF COMMUNICATION
We are not now, nor are we ever, going to sell your data. It will not be sold. Ever.

We have assurances of this. Your data will not be sold.

Anyone saying different does not know what is actually going on.

Why would you write this unless you have a say in this? Are you an employee of Moba NETWORK and/or do you have an ownership stake in the company that would let you make decisions with what it does with its websites? If not, why you speaking on their behalf? And who gave you permission to even say these things? Who gave you these 'assurances'?

hahahahah

Why are you working yourselves to the bone to defend the owners of this company? Why can't they speak for themselves?

Five star thread.

I'm pretty sure that it was stated that B-Dubs is still the General Manager, and that was/is a paid position. I don't know the process, but either the transfer is still in the process and he's an employee of ResetEra, LLC, or has already transitioned to a MOBA employee.

I think B-Dubs needs to answer whether he's a paid employee of MOBA or a volunteer before that decision can be made. His comments including "we" all the time are confusing when it's unclear what "we" refers to.

[nudemacusers]

where is my custom bore tag 

[Potato]

Has any of this shit hit the gaming media yet? Seems like a pretty big story, but fuckwits like JShiller are probably too busy on press junkets to actually do some journalism.

[Potato]

I am going to say this one final time and I hope you're all listening:

OFFICIAL STAFF COMMUNICATION
We are not now, nor are we ever, going to sell your data. It will not be sold. Ever.

We have assurances of this. Your data will not be sold.

Anyone saying different does not know what is actually going on.

Why would you write this unless you have a say in this? Are you an employee of Moba NETWORK and/or do you have an ownership stake in the company that would let you make decisions with what it does with its websites? If not, why you speaking on their behalf? And who gave you permission to even say these things? Who gave you these 'assurances'?

hahahahah

Why are you working yourselves to the bone to defend the owners of this company? Why can't they speak for themselves?

Five star thread.

I'm pretty sure that it was stated that B-Dubs is still the General Manager, and that was/is a paid position. I don't know the process, but either the transfer is still in the process and he's an employee of ResetEra, LLC, or has already transitioned to a MOBA employee.

I think B-Dubs needs to answer whether he's a paid employee of MOBA or a volunteer before that decision can be made. His comments including "we" all the time are confusing when it's unclear what "we" refers to.

Has bduds ever been confirmed as a paid employee?

[benjipwns]

lol after this guy got in an argument with the mods they went back and edited this post from Thursday so the Tweet no longer embedded and attached a warning to it:

User Warned: Antagonizing a fellow member

https://twitter.com/stephentotilo/status/1139337523904176128?s=20

I wonder if the new owners will continue to pronounce ResetEra the way Cerium taught us.

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[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/thank-you-sakurai-beautiful-smash-tribute-video-just-posted-by-gvg.502425/post-75464937/

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/thank-you-sakurai-beautiful-smash-tribute-video-just-posted-by-gvg.502425/page-2#post-75471456

Guy that made the video isn't happy.  We might have another Dark1x situation on our hands.

Wasn't the whole Scott Woz (never even heard of the guy) crime that some dude in his video was accused of something and he i didn't instantly remove him? And now they're mad at another dude for featuring him. This a real cancel caterpillar

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/resetera-ownership-update.499677/post-75478092

Hot take: If you all seriously worried (and not JAQs) about your data you shouldn't use an important email to begin with, what made you trust Cerium that much without knowing him personally? He could just use the data for anything.

The amount of people posting here about how they didn’t know the owner, didn’t know this and that, yet have been posting happy as clams not knowing what was happening anyways. It’s almost like that really isn’t the issue.

I mean, the ownership and financial situation of Resetera has ALWAYS been so transparent. How could anyone have misunderstood that this was a for-profit website run by one shady individual who never interacted with the users and who covertly negotiated a $4.5 million sale without consulting his userbase?

[Potato]

lol after this guy got in an argument with the mods they went back and edited this post from Thursday so the Tweet no longer embedded and attached a warning to it:

User Warned: Antagonizing a fellow member

https://twitter.com/stephentotilo/status/1139337523904176128?s=20

I wonder if the new owners will continue to pronounce ResetEra the way Cerium taught us.

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Are they calling Cerium a fellow member? Motherfucker was the slave master and sold his people down the river for a cool 4.5 milly

[Potato]

i dont think most people moved to era because they wanted a big open transparent site. its just that the management at the old place become unbearable.

This person brought receipts

[Tektonic]

Now's your chance to join in the heady world of games journalism, and write about the cesspool that is resetera!

[Potato]

Seems like you have questions for Cerium specifically. Do you expect him to return here and respond to your questions?

Said with no sarcasm or irony at all.
 

[Potato]

Now's your chance to join in the heady world of games journalism, and write about the cesspool that is resetera!
(Image removed from quote.)

Fuck that. I make a shitload more money than that giant dad doing other shit. I also have dignity.

[Lonewulfeus]

That doesn’t say anything about the mods being decent to the posters though

[benjipwns]

Has bduds ever been confirmed as a paid employee?

The staff have said multiple times that the only people being paid were the "tech team" which was one person.

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/resetera-ownership-update.499677/post-75460599

The reveal that mods keep mail addresses from deleted users has me asking more questions about the record retention policies. The data retention in the privacy policy sure doesn't justify that.

I have already come to terms with my data being compromised here but yes, that is absolutely concerning to say the least.

What "reveal"? The reveal that indicates the exact opposite of what you're claiming here?

Yes, if you change the email, a new account could be created using the email address it was changed from. It does not retain the old email in the database.

Finale Fireworker is illiterate apparently.

[bork]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/thank-you-sakurai-beautiful-smash-tribute-video-just-posted-by-gvg.502425/post-75464937/

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/thank-you-sakurai-beautiful-smash-tribute-video-just-posted-by-gvg.502425/page-2#post-75471456

Guy that made the video isn't happy.  We might have another Dark1x situation on our hands.

Wasn't the whole Scott Woz (never even heard of the guy) crime that some dude in his video was accused of something and he i didn't instantly remove him? And now they're mad at another dude for featuring him. This a real cancel caterpillar

AFAIK, yeah- he made a big 200th episode video or something like that, filled with tons of other YouTubers doing little cameos.  And that was enough to make the forum go reeeeeeeeee.

[Boredfrom]

Has any of this shit hit the gaming media yet? Seems like a pretty big story, but fuckwits like JShiller are probably too busy on press junkets to actually do some journalism.

What fucking big story? Asshole sells his dying forum to a shell company while his mods are in denial?

Unless anyone can confirm that MOBA is truly shady or willing to sell info, I don’t think is a big story at all.

[benjipwns]

Why do some of you people keep demanding staff answer your questions and then each and every time they do answer you immediately refute anything and everything they say as not being true? Not only that but many of you immediately claim to know more/know better then Bdubs and the people actually involved in said talks/sale/discussions.

Seems to me there's nothing staff or anyone involved can say that will ever change some of your minds so what exactly is even the point of demands answers from them to begin with other than to argue and complain for the sake of arguing and complaining.

They aren't asking in good faith just Jaq'ing off

I think the best way of handling this situation would be for some people to either accept what those who are actually part of the sale are saying, or if they can't and think what has been said and addressed numerous times by multiple staff members directly involved in the sale is nothing but "blatant lies" then to move on and leave the thread and stop arguing for the sake or arguing and claiming they know better than those directly involved. But that's just me.

There is literally nothing productive about demanding answers and when given answers denying it immediately and accusing the person who gave said answers as lying and claiming to know better then them. If a person thinks they know better than those directly involved why even bother demanding answers in the first place if you think anything said will just be lies. There has to be infinitely more better things to do to spend one's time, both on this site and outside it.

None of the people who are "actually part of the sale" have said anything on ResetERA.com since the OP. And the other party to the sale has only said anything in their press release and on linkedin.

B-Dubs and the staff have consistently lied and refused to answer questions about this subject. While anyone can go and read what MOBA Network has said which contradicts that and about them as a company.

So why should anyone think we don't know more/better than B-Dubs (who was not "actually/directly involved in the sale") about this?

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https://www.resetera.com/threads/thank-you-sakurai-beautiful-smash-tribute-video-just-posted-by-gvg.502425/post-75464937/

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/thank-you-sakurai-beautiful-smash-tribute-video-just-posted-by-gvg.502425/page-2#post-75471456

Guy that made the video isn't happy.  We might have another Dark1x situation on our hands.

Wasn't the whole Scott Woz (never even heard of the guy) crime that some dude in his video was accused of something and he i didn't instantly remove him? And now they're mad at another dude for featuring him. This a real cancel caterpillar

Supposedly the victim has dirt on Scott Woz (because a really vague tweet that Neoxon takes as confirmation while not even addressing ScottWoz). This happened three months ago and resulted in nothing.