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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10740 on: January 04, 2022, 06:38:23 AM »
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/article-first-lgbt-cryptocurrency-the-maricoin-bets-on-changing-the-world/
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If you don't like it, it's not for you. Fuck off.

this seems like an excellent way to establish an alternative payment system in the modern competitive world, to launch it with the very clear expectation to start denying people access to it  :doggy
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10741 on: January 04, 2022, 07:18:11 AM »
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/article-first-lgbt-cryptocurrency-the-maricoin-bets-on-changing-the-world/
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If you don't like it, it's not for you. Fuck off.

this seems like an excellent way to establish an alternative payment system in the modern competitive world, to launch it with the very clear expectation to start denying people access to it  :doggy

Era: wtf, I love crypto and nfts now
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10742 on: January 04, 2022, 07:21:12 AM »
At least corporations are honest about why they're doing this kind of stuff now.

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The global LGBTQ market is huge, with research by Swiss bank Credit Suisse suggesting it would rank as the world’s fourth-largest economy, behind Japan but ahead of Germany in terms of purchasing power.

A 2018 study conducted by Kantar Consulting and LGBTQ social network Hornet estimated the community’s buying power in the United States alone at US$1-trillion in 2016 – almost equal to that of African-American or Hispanic consumers.

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« Reply #10743 on: January 04, 2022, 07:30:35 AM »
Maricoin? Really?

Might want to hire some more diverse cats so a Spanish speaker can give you the skinny on why 'maricoin' might not be a great name.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10744 on: January 04, 2022, 08:01:09 AM »
Still waiting for the Deirdre Barlow coin

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10745 on: January 04, 2022, 08:09:11 AM »
Maricoin? Really?

Might want to hire some more diverse cats so a Spanish speaker can give you the skinny on why 'maricoin' might not be a great name.
They'll soon be launching a collection of poofNFTs
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10746 on: January 04, 2022, 08:36:06 AM »
Maricxin :wag

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« Reply #10747 on: January 04, 2022, 08:38:30 AM »
B-Dubs is doing a Rodin-sprayed-with-firehose in that thread
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Seriously you don't see how these two images are similar?


Beyond that, look at Watto's characterization in the story. It's pretty blatant dude.

When I watched Phantom Menace when it came out, I thought Watto was a Cheech Marin VO cameo :idont

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« Reply #10748 on: January 04, 2022, 08:47:31 AM »
Maricoin? Really?

Might want to hire some more diverse cats so a Spanish speaker can give you the skinny on why 'maricoin' might not be a great name.

There was a football player from Romania called Ciprian Marica, when he signed in Spain his club suggestef not to put his last name on his shirt.  :lol

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« Reply #10749 on: January 04, 2022, 09:12:52 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/any-of-you-noticed-a-sect-of-alt-right-neo-nazis-in-the-anime-fandom.260391/page-8#post-79666754
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I just want to piggyback and call out the people who have nothing against "loli" content because they claim they make a clear distinction between real children and anime children. They don't understand why people criticize manga and anime's seeming perverse love of children. Well...

(ex-translator facing child porn charges): https://www.tysonsreporter.com/2021...arges-after-internet-taskforce-investigation/

(Act-Age writer arrested for molesting underage): https://comicbook.com/anime/news/act-age-manga-creator-arrest/

(Please Tell Me! Galko-chan author arrested for importing CP): https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/ne...zation-suspended-after-creator-arrest/.181003


EDIT: I went to 2019 (I think) Anime Expo and I'll never forget how.... awkward I felt towards some of the fans there. The people wearing those ahegao shirts, and the people who seem way, way to into their hobby and socially-maladjusted. I enjoyed the expo and yet at the same time it also helped turn me away from the fandom.

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« Reply #10750 on: January 04, 2022, 09:19:28 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/destiny-2-twitch-streamer-gxsrclyde-under-fire-for-animal-abuse-on-stream.534959/

Not to say the streamer in question isn’t a sack of shit that should probably be banned, but it’s kinda disturbing that the only thing that gets ZeroVagine’s dick hard is MCU shit, and the prospect of a cancellation. Like clockwork.
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« Reply #10751 on: January 04, 2022, 09:22:24 AM »
He is using a Azur Lane avatar (a banned game at Era) with a character that is explicit states to be like a kindergarten girl mentally and physically.

Has no right to lecture anyone there.  :lol

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« Reply #10752 on: January 04, 2022, 09:48:27 AM »
You always seem to have encyclopedic knowledge of all pedophilic anime shit  :society
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« Reply #10753 on: January 04, 2022, 09:56:14 AM »
You always seem to have encyclopedic knowledge of all pedophilic anime shit  :society

I play Azur Lane, is not secret here.  :yeshrug

The game has way more ship girls with big boobs than lolis.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10755 on: January 04, 2022, 10:35:25 AM »
If you play any Gacha you're gunna inevitably be exposed to loli shit, same as watching pretty much any Anime... it's almost as if there is a certain segment of Anime/Gacha fans that have specific fetishes...

Anyway, Epic 7 is also much more slated toward unreasonably large funbags than loli shit so I don't feel guilty.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/patton-oswalt-explains-himself-after-nice-dave-chappelle-post-goes-sideways.535055/

:popcorn

Fucking finally I've been bored af at work

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« Reply #10756 on: January 04, 2022, 10:36:41 AM »
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good job posting a link to a tweet about an article instead of just posting the article

lol

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10757 on: January 04, 2022, 10:40:19 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/that-one-gamer-friend….534812/#post-79652018

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10758 on: January 04, 2022, 10:44:59 AM »
Kyuuji hustling in Constructive to explain why what was done to Cyberpunk doesn't count as banning discussion and why people shouldn't even be talking about the Hogwarts game specifically when the conversation should just be on JKR being a horrible human being:
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In the end banning Rowling and Cyberpunk threads because they are problematic, is problematic in itself if this isn't extended to all other similar problematic cases. But the issue is that won't happen because it means completely banning Ubisoft and Activision discussion as well, and that is a very big part of gaming discussion.
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Cyberpunk discussion wasn't banned, it was limited to a single thread. One that has some 29,000 comments of discussion in it. So, no, the comparison wouldn't be "completely banning" all output from a company, it would be individual Ubisoft games having their own dedicated threads on release. Something I wouldn't disagree with.

For Rowling it's because it's tied to a single individual who has had a nationwide impact on a minority and their wellbeing. So the comparison point on banning Rowling, alongside associated elements that aid her in doing that, is more inline with banning people like Joe Rogan.
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I think that's a good approach on paper considering the harmful aspects of those games and the situations/people around them, though I think it was somewhat undermined by allowing separate negative threads on the game to exist
The only people that were confused about this were being wilfully obtuse in order to try and make a point, when anyone with more than a handful of brain cells to rub together could understand why it was the way it was.

Also this persistent desire to hone in on 'the Hogwarts game' is maddening this far into the discussion when the conversation is at, and should be kept at, the level of Rowling and products related to her and her IP.

In which someone asks what's wrong with the Hogwarts game specifically and the answer is just 'what's wrong is JKR sucks':
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Regarding banning threads and keeping only one discussion thread like the case with Cyberpunk, I’d like to offer my perspectief on how it has affected me. I pretty much get most if not all my gaming news fix here. I like to catch up on what’s happening even with games that I‘m not (planning on) playing. I’m not going to come to OTs to read through discussions about the gameplay just to get through the news surrounding the game. And because of this, I end up not bothering at all. I feel that this causes the opposite effect of what I assume to be the intention. It’s hiding the negativity and the bad shit the company keeps doing. I end up not knowing when a company is being bad and I won’t be able to make a decision on whether to avoid a company or not. When we had those cyberpunk threads, I could see the harm the company does to the LGBT+ community. It makes me more supportive when I see those kind of examples. Also, the are obviously more problems with Cyberpunk. Like how deceptive the company has been and how they made all these promises. I was glad that I was up to date for a while.

I understand that we don’t want to promote those type of toxic games and that is not my intention either. If it was up to me though, I’d prefer having an OT (with information about the toxicity) for the ones who want to talk about the game, topics related to minorities (good and bad) and update news to be allowed (new patches). That way I keep getting reminded of the bad things they’re doing but I’d also like to read if they are trying to improve at all.  Hype threads about sales, trailers and anything to make you want to buy or support the game should be banned.

For instance, with the Hogwarts game, I know way less about the situation except that Harry Potter author is a terf. I think we also had a thread at one point about the devs adding minority characters in the game? That’s it. I don’t know what the hell is happening with the game and whether it’s causing any more harm since.

I’m sure I’m not the only one who deals with news in this way. Is this what we want? Hiding the shit these companies are doing? I’m afraid this might be the outcome even if it’s not intentional.
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Why do you need a thread allowing discussion for Hogwarts Legacy in order to keep up to date with Rowling's transphobia, or the transphobia she stokes and gives life to in the UK and abroad? You can keep up with her nonsense here, or by keeping a cursory eye on Etcetera for the broader impact. It's not like news surrounding her or trans issues in the UK are posted to the Gaming side.


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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10759 on: January 04, 2022, 10:51:47 AM »
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10760 on: January 04, 2022, 10:55:35 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/patton-oswalt-explains-himself-after-nice-dave-chappelle-post-goes-sideways.535055/

:popcorn

Cancel culture doesn't exist but also Patton need to ends this 34 year old friendship or he's a piece of shit.

Also I'd like to see a case where cutting someone off actually made them turn around on their believes. Never seen that story with a happy end
« Last Edit: January 04, 2022, 11:00:31 AM by HaughtyFrank »

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10761 on: January 04, 2022, 10:57:00 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/patton-oswalt-explains-himself-after-nice-dave-chappelle-post-goes-sideways.535055/

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That is my problem with modern newscycle. They want to skip the damage and harm and go straight to forgiveness. And for doing nothing
Please can we be specific about this harm and damage done? Seems like it's always used in very vague terms.
Did Chapelle punch someone in the nuts? Or was it that someone didn't like his jokes and took offense? Something that is entirely subjective and arbitrary?

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« Reply #10762 on: January 04, 2022, 11:01:47 AM »
Cyber*unk is so not banned on ree, is that when someone posted this video as a topic on gaming side the other day, the entire thread got sent to the shadow realm merged with the OT within 4 posts.



Can’t believe that Mr. Bean was a terf trans genocider this whole time  :jeanluc
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10763 on: January 04, 2022, 11:02:52 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/patton-oswalt-explains-himself-after-nice-dave-chappelle-post-goes-sideways.535055/

:popcorn

Cancel culture doesn't exist but also Patton need to ends this 34 year old friendship or he's a piece of shit.

Also I'd like to see a case where cutting someone off actually made them turn around on their believes. Never seen that story with a happy end

I've started to hear more and more of my "progressive" friends share this attitude. Feeling bad that they've cut off friends for political reasons during the Trump era.

It is peak white cis privilege where they can start feeling guilty about cutting off bigots who proudly supported a white supremacist as president.


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« Reply #10764 on: January 04, 2022, 11:04:23 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/patton-oswalt-explains-himself-after-nice-dave-chappelle-post-goes-sideways.535055/

:popcorn

Cancel culture doesn't exist but also Patton need to ends this 34 year old friendship or he's a piece of shit.

Also I'd like to see a case where cutting someone off actually made them turn around on their believes. Never seen that story with a happy end

I mean, you know this but it's not about making Chappelle change his beliefs it's about punishing people who have made some misstep.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/patton-oswalt-explains-himself-after-nice-dave-chappelle-post-goes-sideways.535055/

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That is my problem with modern newscycle. They want to skip the damage and harm and go straight to forgiveness. And for doing nothing
Please can we be specific about this harm and damage done? Seems like it's always used in very vague terms.
Did Chapelle punch someone in the nuts? Or was it that someone didn't like his jokes and took offense? Something that is entirely subjective and arbitrary?

The "harm" is always non-specific because it's all mental anguish created by reality crashing into their mental oasis. There is probably real cognitive dissonance that they can't resolve if they are fans of Oswalt.

Of course, the "harm" is 90% virtue signaling tweets who haven't though about Oswalt for years until they read from a 3rd or 4th hand source that he was giving Chappelle a platform and refusing to choke the man to death live on TV.
« Last Edit: January 04, 2022, 11:09:55 AM by marrec »

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10765 on: January 04, 2022, 11:14:12 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/patton-oswalt-explains-himself-after-%E2%80%98nice%E2%80%99-dave-chappelle-post-goes-sideways.535055/#post-79681829

"Any friends of transphobes are no friends of mine."

I'm sure Dave Chappelle and Patton Oswalt are devastated that ResetERA Poster WhySoDevious has drawn this line in the sand.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10766 on: January 04, 2022, 11:15:10 AM »
Cyber*unk is so not banned on ree, is that when someone posted this video as a topic on gaming side the other day, the entire thread got sent to the shadow realm merged with the OT within 4 posts.



Can’t believe that Mr. Bean was a terf trans genocider this whole time  :jeanluc

And any thread that had negative news about cyberpunk, like bad reception or leaked code was allowed.

I guess suddenly it doesn't trigger Kyuji(finished the game on new game+) anymore. Whole thing is petty as shit  :lol

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10767 on: January 04, 2022, 11:18:52 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/patton-oswalt-explains-himself-after-%E2%80%98nice%E2%80%99-dave-chappelle-post-goes-sideways.535055/#post-79681736
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What’s wrong with posting a picture of himself with a friend? That’s news worthy? What the fuck. He owes no one any explanation

Patton is a public figure, a self-described "ally" and proudly shared a photo of himself smiling with the most famous transphobe on the planet aside from maybe JK Rowling. So yes, he does owe the trans community (and to a lesser degree his fans in general) an explanation.

 :gamergate
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10768 on: January 04, 2022, 11:22:20 AM »
If Chapelle is the most famous transphobe on the planet, then trans folks are doing pretty well.  Pretty sure trans people are being dissected and thrown off roofs on some part of the planet.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10769 on: January 04, 2022, 11:23:16 AM »
Cyber*unk is so not banned on ree, is that when someone posted this video as a topic on gaming side the other day, the entire thread got sent to the shadow realm merged with the OT within 4 posts.



Can’t believe that Mr. Bean was a terf trans genocider this whole time  :jeanluc

And any thread that had negative news about cyberpunk, like bad reception or leaked code was allowed.

I guess suddenly it doesn't trigger Kyuji(finished the game on new game+) anymore. Whole thing is petty as shit  :lol

JK Rowling saves trans persons life by fighting off pack of wild dogs who voted for Trump - "Fuck this TERF bitch we don't need threads about her"

JK Rowling has said something on twitter - "*400 page thread discussing what she actually meant by "Trans rights are human rights"*"

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10770 on: January 04, 2022, 11:25:12 AM »
It is pretty tough to reconcile the oft-quoted "trans people are the most targetted and vulnerable minority there is!" statement, with the idea that their biggest most famous threat is a guy who made a "They're after me? Is that a one they or a many they?" joke.

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« Reply #10771 on: January 04, 2022, 11:29:49 AM »
It is pretty tough to reconcile the oft-quoted "trans people are the most targetted and vulnerable minority there is!" statement, with the idea that their biggest most famous threat is a guy who made a "They're after me? Is that a one they or a many they?" joke.

Uh, sir, I believe you mean their biggest and most famous threat is an author who said "Trans right are human rights".

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10772 on: January 04, 2022, 11:35:38 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/patton-oswalt-explains-himself-after-%E2%80%98nice%E2%80%99-dave-chappelle-post-goes-sideways.535055/#post-79681736
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What’s wrong with posting a picture of himself with a friend? That’s news worthy? What the fuck. He owes no one any explanation

Patton is a public figure, a self-described "ally" and proudly shared a photo of himself smiling with the most famous transphobe on the planet aside from maybe JK Rowling. So yes, he does owe the trans community (and to a lesser degree his fans in general) an explanation.

 :gamergate

Like, in all seriousness, this kind of insane entitlement should not be catered to and I'm more mad that Oswalt dedicated all this time to begging forgiveness than about the picture in the first place.

People need to stop pretending anyone on the internet is actually hurt or concerned by completely innocuous things like "taking a picture with a friend".

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« Reply #10773 on: January 04, 2022, 11:35:40 AM »
Patton thinks he has guilt for cutting ties?  I told all my friends to fuuuuuuck ooooooff after they said they didn't believe Jussie.  Now all I'm alone and all I have left is this #JusticeForJuicy t-shirt.

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« Reply #10774 on: January 04, 2022, 11:39:24 AM »
It is also hard to reconcile the idea that not cutting off your friends and family for ideological differences is "peak privilege".

Because a single mother working 2 jobs to make ends meet can't exactly be picky about their free childcare, even if their family do own a Lets Go Brandon hat.

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« Reply #10775 on: January 04, 2022, 11:47:00 AM »
It is also hard to reconcile the idea that not cutting off your friends and family for ideological differences is "peak privilege".

Because a single mother working 2 jobs to make ends meet can't exactly be picky about their free childcare, even if their family do own a Lets Go Brandon hat.

TBF, these are the same people who constantly make threads about how they are essentially friendless. It's a lot easier to cut people off when you don't have anyone to cut off to begin with.

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« Reply #10776 on: January 04, 2022, 11:47:03 AM »
It is also hard to reconcile the idea that not cutting off your friends and family for ideological differences is "peak privilege".

Because a single mother working 2 jobs to make ends meet can't exactly be picky about their free childcare, even if their family do own a Lets Go Brandon hat.

Or have the time to be petty about celebrity/twitter/culture war drama

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« Reply #10777 on: January 04, 2022, 12:12:11 PM »
Y'all better back the fuck off Little Caesers man their thin crust pepperoni is a miracle of grease and cheese and "bread".

 :paul

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10778 on: January 04, 2022, 12:28:42 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/patton-oswalt-explains-himself-after-nice-dave-chappelle-post-goes-sideways.535055/

:popcorn

Cancel culture doesn't exist but also Patton need to ends this 34 year old friendship or he's a piece of shit.

Also I'd like to see a case where cutting someone off actually made them turn around on their believes. Never seen that story with a happy end

I mean, you know this but it's not about making Chappelle change his beliefs it's about punishing people who have made some misstep.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/patton-oswalt-explains-himself-after-nice-dave-chappelle-post-goes-sideways.535055/

:popcorn
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That is my problem with modern newscycle. They want to skip the damage and harm and go straight to forgiveness. And for doing nothing
Please can we be specific about this harm and damage done? Seems like it's always used in very vague terms.
Did Chapelle punch someone in the nuts? Or was it that someone didn't like his jokes and took offense? Something that is entirely subjective and arbitrary?

The "harm" is always non-specific because it's all mental anguish created by reality crashing into their mental oasis. There is probably real cognitive dissonance that they can't resolve if they are fans of Oswalt.

Of course, the "harm" is 90% virtue signaling tweets who haven't though about Oswalt for years until they read from a 3rd or 4th hand source that he was giving Chappelle a platform and refusing to choke the man to death live on TV.

This is where I’m at.  “Harm” is always the term used, but it’s never explained what that’s supposed to mean really.  Any explanation given always boils down to “words can be hurtful”, with the unspoken assumption by them being that misgendering someone is as bad as calling someone the n-word, and that we should feel the same.

They stopped saying that last part out loud because then people in the black community would interject and tell them off for such a ridiculous equivalence.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10779 on: January 04, 2022, 12:49:21 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/patton-oswalt-explains-himself-after-nice-dave-chappelle-post-goes-sideways.535055/

:popcorn

Cancel culture doesn't exist but also Patton need to ends this 34 year old friendship or he's a piece of shit.

Also I'd like to see a case where cutting someone off actually made them turn around on their believes. Never seen that story with a happy end

I mean, you know this but it's not about making Chappelle change his beliefs it's about punishing people who have made some misstep.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/patton-oswalt-explains-himself-after-nice-dave-chappelle-post-goes-sideways.535055/

:popcorn
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That is my problem with modern newscycle. They want to skip the damage and harm and go straight to forgiveness. And for doing nothing
Please can we be specific about this harm and damage done? Seems like it's always used in very vague terms.
Did Chapelle punch someone in the nuts? Or was it that someone didn't like his jokes and took offense? Something that is entirely subjective and arbitrary?

The "harm" is always non-specific because it's all mental anguish created by reality crashing into their mental oasis. There is probably real cognitive dissonance that they can't resolve if they are fans of Oswalt.

Of course, the "harm" is 90% virtue signaling tweets who haven't though about Oswalt for years until they read from a 3rd or 4th hand source that he was giving Chappelle a platform and refusing to choke the man to death live on TV.

This is where I’m at.  “Harm” is always the term used, but it’s never explained what that’s supposed to mean really.  Any explanation given always boils down to “words can be hurtful”, with the unspoken assumption by them being that misgendering someone is as bad as calling someone the n-word, and that we should feel the same.

They stopped saying that last part out loud because then people in the black community would interject and tell them off for such a ridiculous equivalence.

Far be it from me, a white dude who has made it this far in life with a 50/50 mix of white privilege and tall privilege, to say that words CAN'T cause harm... but Chappelle flubbing a trans joke is not as harmful as some of these people claim, and Oswalt reminiscing about a friendship that has lasted 10 times longer than most of their gender identities is completely harmless. People need to stop pretending that Chappelle's newest standup routines are the Turner Diaries.

The "attack helicopter" style joke is just as harmless as calling a white dude "cracker". Anyone mad about either has entirely too much fucking time on their hands.

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« Reply #10780 on: January 04, 2022, 12:56:00 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/patton-oswalt-explains-himself-after-%E2%80%98nice%E2%80%99-dave-chappelle-post-goes-sideways.535055/#post-79681829

"Any friends of transphobes are no friends of mine."

I'm sure Dave Chappelle and Patton Oswalt are devastated that ResetERA Poster WhySoDevious has drawn this line in the sand.

I've been imaginary friends with patton for years, his jokes make me laugh and I imagine him laughing right back at my jokes, but now I'm imagining myself telling him how disappointed I am and he's trying to make all these excuses and I'm just not having it, so I've imagined walking away and never looking back
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« Reply #10781 on: January 04, 2022, 01:05:11 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/patton-oswalt-explains-himself-after-%E2%80%98nice%E2%80%99-dave-chappelle-post-goes-sideways.535055/#post-79681829

"Any friends of transphobes are no friends of mine."

I'm sure Dave Chappelle and Patton Oswalt are devastated that ResetERA Poster WhySoDevious has drawn this line in the sand.

I've been imaginary friends with patton for years, his jokes make me laugh and I imagine him laughing right back at my jokes, but now I'm imagining myself telling him how disappointed I am and he's trying to make all these excuses and I'm just not having it, so I've imagined walking away and never looking back

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« Reply #10782 on: January 04, 2022, 01:13:28 PM »
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I agree with Patton's idea that hopefully Dave will learn and grow and correct his backwards ideas. BUT that doesn't change the harm he is doing now. How about we wait until he actually shows some inclination to change before we begin his fucking forgiveness tour?
That is my problem with modern newscycle. They want to skip the damage and harm and go straight to forgiveness. And for doing nothing

That could be because a news organization, even with how loose they can play with facts knows they need some BASIS for those facts. If a news organization said Dave harmed and damaged transgenders without being able to concretely show damage or harm, they would get sued. And they’d lose.

Who’d a thunk it? News Organizations legal departments are actually protecting facts more than the reporters these days.

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« Reply #10783 on: January 04, 2022, 01:23:04 PM »
"At the end of the day these are rich celebrities completely isolated from any real consequence of this stuff. Social media is just a little hobby for them and they almost always line up to defend their rich friends. I don't expect much from these people."

https://www.resetera.com/threads/patton-oswalt-explains-himself-after-%E2%80%98nice%E2%80%99-dave-chappelle-post-goes-sideways.535055/page-2#post-79692389

1) Everyone is completely isolated from any real consequence of this stuff because there is no real consequence of this stuff. Unless you're a progressive woman who tweeted something you've decided to interpret uncharitably, then you'll be harassed until mental breakdown.

2) Is social media supposed to be taken more seriously than "just a little hobby"? What does that even mean in the context of all this melodrama?

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« Reply #10784 on: January 04, 2022, 01:28:36 PM »


I agree slayvern we need to get this sorted

the news should run a thorough article about the actual, serious, undeniable harm that chapelle has caused

none of this "some people said they didn't like it" stuff, I want the hard data
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« Reply #10785 on: January 04, 2022, 01:33:57 PM »
And then the same people show up at Rowling's house and think it's ridiculous that she feels threatened by it

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« Reply #10786 on: January 04, 2022, 01:35:59 PM »
"Any of the established comedians actually came out against Chapelle fully? Even Jon Stewart was super disappointing."

PlanetSmasher, obviously.
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« Reply #10787 on: January 04, 2022, 01:39:12 PM »
I read something earlier which is overstated but still got me thinking

somebody was saying that the majority of conservatives have been banned from twitter and reddit, or at least otherwise cowed into submission/compliance with nice-speak rules, and any spaces they try to make are either run off the internet (parler) or underground

now I mean, clearly conservatives are still all over the place and won't shut the fuck up

but it got me thinking what happens when theoretically the public-facing internet is nothing but liberals, and because they are still human, there are tons of problematic perspectives and raging morons and just generally a pack of nutjobs you wouldn't want to associate yourself with

does this eventually cause a global uptick in conservative leanings?  because supposedly-liberal perspectives are the only ones allowed, but it ends up as much a cesspool as anything else, and the everyman says no thank you?  :doge

era is a microcosm of that already
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« Reply #10788 on: January 04, 2022, 01:49:55 PM »
"At the end of the day, he's still a straight white dude with no skin in the game so he somehow thought posting that photo and demanding for only nice comments would be well within his privilege because of the fanbase he's built and the lack of trans affirmative comedians. At least he didn't use any trans friends as shields like Dave did."

It's his social media account, it's well within his "privilege" to do whatever the fuck he wants within the allowances of the law. In fact, it's within his "privilege" to post a picture of a long time friend and expect not to get harassed by weird obsessive twerps online who want to police everyone's actions.

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« Reply #10789 on: January 04, 2022, 01:59:18 PM »
I read something earlier which is overstated but still got me thinking

somebody was saying that the majority of conservatives have been banned from twitter and reddit, or at least otherwise cowed into submission/compliance with nice-speak rules, and any spaces they try to make are either run off the internet (parler) or underground

now I mean, clearly conservatives are still all over the place and won't shut the fuck up

but it got me thinking what happens when theoretically the public-facing internet is nothing but liberals, and because they are still human, there are tons of problematic perspectives and raging morons and just generally a pack of nutjobs you wouldn't want to associate yourself with

does this eventually cause a global uptick in conservative leanings?  because supposedly-liberal perspectives are the only ones allowed, but it ends up as much a cesspool as anything else, and the everyman says no thank you?  :doge

era is a microcosm of that already

To try and answer this seriously I'm going to use an extreme example of what could happen when a single ideology culls other ideologies until only it remains; The French Revolution.

Now, obviously, I don't think anyone is going to be chopping off heads here... but when the counter-culture becomes capital C Culture by hook or by crook a few things tend to happen... counter-revolutionaries, second-revolutionaries, popular sentiment eventually turns against those in power even if they have shared ideologies. Right now we're in the "Robespierre is comfortably in control of France without any worry" part of ERAs little microcosmic revolution but as we've seen with all these microcosms throughout the years, no one can be comfortable when they are considered leaders of progressive thought.

I don't think your hypothetical would lead to an uptick in conservative thought necessarily, but the eventual endgame would be a disambiguation of liberal thought and a return to examining individual areas of liberalism/progressivism with more critical motivations.

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« Reply #10791 on: January 04, 2022, 02:07:20 PM »
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trans affirmative comedians

What the hell is this?  Nobody shits harder on black people than black comics.  What is all this "gentle comedy," they listen to?


Getting to make fun of your race is the best part of being a minority

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« Reply #10792 on: January 04, 2022, 02:19:05 PM »
Did Jon Stewart and Patton Oswalt even get a full four-year degree from an accredited comedy school? No wonder they don't know anything about comedy.
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« Reply #10793 on: January 04, 2022, 02:20:14 PM »
Maybe there is a lack of trans affirmative comedians because affirmation in comedy is already extremely rare and trans affirmation in comedy is just Tig Notaro who, as we all know, isn't funny.

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« Reply #10794 on: January 04, 2022, 02:35:08 PM »
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trans affirmative comedians

What the hell is this?  Nobody shits harder on black people than black comics.  What is all this "gentle comedy," they listen to?


Getting to make fun of your race is the best part of being a minority



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« Reply #10795 on: January 04, 2022, 02:55:03 PM »
I would like to point out that "nice comments only" is essentially ERA's entire moderation philosophy when it comes to specifically selected minority groups within the community.

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« Reply #10796 on: January 04, 2022, 03:09:29 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/destiny-2-twitch-streamer-gxsrclyde-under-fire-for-animal-abuse-on-stream.534959/

Not to say the streamer in question isn’t a sack of shit that should probably be banned, but it’s kinda disturbing that the only thing that gets ZeroVagine’s dick hard is MCU shit, and the prospect of a cancellation. Like clockwork.
That's animal abuse?
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« Reply #10797 on: January 04, 2022, 03:12:50 PM »
I would like to point out that "nice comments only" is essentially ERA's entire moderation philosophy when it comes to specifically selected minority groups within the community.

To be fair, this only applies when the minority espouses the "approved" opinion. They are more than happy to call black users Uncle Toms ("internal policing" as the BCT people like to call it) and women users having internalized misogyny (because no "right thinking" woman could even disagree with their takes about women in society) when they express even a bit of independent thought that's not to ERA's liking. And of course said users are banned quickly if they don't quickly "get with the program."
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« Reply #10798 on: January 04, 2022, 03:45:02 PM »
Bork I would like to propose a new moderation policy of "nice comments only" when responding to any of my posts pls this is to prevent future harm

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« Reply #10799 on: January 04, 2022, 03:46:16 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/destiny-2-twitch-streamer-gxsrclyde-under-fire-for-animal-abuse-on-stream.534959/

Not to say the streamer in question isn’t a sack of shit that should probably be banned, but it’s kinda disturbing that the only thing that gets ZeroVagine’s dick hard is MCU shit, and the prospect of a cancellation. Like clockwork.
That's animal abuse?

He essentially confessed to murder

Animal abusers kill women.

(It's still a pretty shitty way to treat an animal but I expected something more dramatic)