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benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #47340 on: April 12, 2023, 11:32:14 AM »
twitter.com/cenkuygur/status/1645869927038062592

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No, it's not. If left-wing politicians use language that is greatly alienating to the majority of voters, then Republicans win elections. And then they pass laws against trans people!! You're hurting your own cause. We want to protect trans rights, we want to fight against bigoted laws. Instead you all are fighting on losing ground for no reason! You keep saying that no one uses these terms and then turn around and say politicians should use them. Which one is it?

 :cenk

“Do we suggest we leave trans men out of legislation out when it comes to legislation on abortion rights?”

God-fucking-dammit! Is a female-to-male transgender a male or not? You tell me terminally online. You say they are man, and now here want to give them their own special category of pseudo-man who should be considered male at all times, except when they are carrying a baby?

Are they a fucking man or not? Yes? Then they get as much word on abortion rights as other men do. There you fucking go, equality.
Are they a trans-man? Fine. They can have say, but don’t bitch about being treated differently than other men when differential treatment this is EXACTLY what you are asking for.

  :picard
They seem to be under the impression that legislation is written like: "women and only women should get to yeet their babies whenever they want! If you ain't a woman than fuck off!"

I remain endlessly baffled by all the self-proclaimed intelligent people online who insist that the law is written in some kind of secret elaborate code when you can look up all this stuff yourself and see that it's written in plain English albeit is presented in a form that requires some very slight background knowledge. Every law starts off with a definition of terms, nobody bans "drag" and calls it a day, instead they write a paragraph as to what "drag" in the context of the law that's about to be stated means. This is so you can't come to court and say "murder? Nobody told me what that meant! How was I suppose to know?!?" The very rare legal disputes that get through multiple layers of courts and find their way to the Supreme Court are generally about interpretations and conflicts not basic definitions. You hear about these cases because they come from a powerful political force but most of them are a form of solving something like "how can [A] when this says [C] and this says [E]?" Despite the political cases getting attention most of what the Supreme Court does is tell lower courts "okay, when it says this, assume this" or "when you come across this, check this and use that" so that the process is unified across the country.

It's a basic due process issue that the law be understandable to all but I'm not surprised that people who don't ever ever ever care about due process as long as the victims of the state have the appropriate appearance to match their personal biases don't care to find out about the law at all.

Now, speaking of due process issues...
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Pleased to see a full ban on the IP, given how Rowling's bigotry is omnipresent within the writing of it.
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Can we get a detailed announcement on this? It seems obvious from the one sentence that a sequel to this year’s game or Cursed Child 2 discussion would be banned but is the video talking about the neoliberal failings of the original books banned too? Should people in the Gameboy and Analogue Pocket threads remove old posts or just not post about the GBC games going forward?

Edit: Also I think this is a good move.
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It should be pretty self evident that no one is expected to go back and scrub their posting history of any mention of HP....

Moving forward, a thread on how great LEGO Harry Potter on the Vita was would certainly be locked.
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So what points does a subject have to meet to warrant a full ban?  For example should topics around universal studios and WB be banned since both market and make money on said banned ip?

And, making it clear the ban won't apply to the anti-JK thread (or, apparently, the Cormoran Strike stuff which is... weird)
So, Rowling's bigotry is omnipresent but only in Harry Potter not her tweets or her other books or anything else WarnerBrosDiscovery is involved in.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #47341 on: April 12, 2023, 11:32:53 AM »
Even though many things are dumb right now the dumbest thing is "Public broadcasting" (like National Public Radio) mad that Elon marks them as "Government Funded"  :snoop
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #47342 on: April 12, 2023, 11:47:11 AM »
Constructive thread continues to go on about silly things like whether or not rules should be written down.

User responding to B-dubs list of shit they got after the Hogwarts ban:
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I can understand the line of thought, but it is not a good situation when people can get banned for non-obvious rules (like "you cannot use source X") that are listed nowhere. Which is why I would suggest the following policy: For non-obvious infractions like "writing about Harry Potter" or "linking to Fox News as a source" (I do not know if Fox News is actually banned, please do not get mad at me if it is not) do not hand out bans to people who do these infractions for the first time, but send them a PM (which can be looked up later, in case someone is unsure; in contrast to a warning message) informing them that the specific source the cite or the specific piece of media they discussed is off limits on Era. Then, if the same person does it (for the same source or piece of media) again, you can be sure the person should have known better and you could hand out bans or formal warnings.

That is of course, if the core of the infraction is the usage of a banned source of the discussion of a banned piece of media, not the specific content of the posting. Of course, even if someone is not aware that a source is banned, one may use a banned source but at the same time (and maybe through that banned source) distribute hateful material or similar that warrants a moderation action even if it were not coming from a banned source. This is a different matter.

B-Dubs  response is bullshit but interesting in that he's conflating the non-publicized HP ban with the more-publicized HL ban which conveniently sidesteps having to discuss the new, non-publicized ban:
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Nobody actually gets banned for posting any of the banned content stuff (outside the Harry Potter thing, which was widely announced) though. We just edit it out and send them an alert saying don't use the source. So that whole point is bunk.

And then Morrigan dumps more hidden rule lore about an apparent ban on saying bitch to fictional women?
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Using a banned source isn't insta-bannable IIRC, it just gets your content removed, unless you are shown to be deliberately flouting the rule or your source is so bad that it contains, like, nazi stuff (still remember that hardcore anti-Biden leftist who linked to a page attacking Biden that came from a site with a ragingly antisemitic banner and articles in the side-bar about race wars lol...).

That said, some of those other rules did get users actioned, such as getting banned 2 weeks for saying "bitch" or the c-word, so, yeah...
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Wait I’ve seen people use that “b(*) eating crackers” phrase all the time is that against the rules?
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No, I don't think it's banned to that extent. But going "bitch, what?" towards a (female) fictional character is bannable as sexism. Which, I'm glad I know because I certainly would have easily blundered there lol, but I found out only by seeing someone get hit for it

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #47343 on: April 12, 2023, 11:47:14 AM »
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"AI prompt engineer" is definitely going to be one of the most lucrative fake jobs to have in the next few years. Literally a professional idea guy.

 :doge it's literally something you can do well, or do poorly and take forever to get your desired result

you can spend hours reading up on strategies, incorporating others' tricks and suggestions

you have to learn how to seek out models that might be better suited to the specific thing you're working on, how to make your own models if you want a consistent look for a character, and have the technical knowledge to configure a PC (or even a GPU array) that gets you better results faster

most significantly, inpainting touch-up takes actual artistic vision and skill, as much as anyone skilled in Photoshop, recognizing which parts of the image are flawed and how to fix it

AI is easy to get something random that looks cool when you don't care about the result, but the more specific your vision, the more there is a case to be made that it's a learnable skill
They don't know how to do it and can't think of any use so it's "simple" and "nonsense" and "nobody needs it" to them.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/donald-glover-faces-backlash-for-hiring-ai-prompt-engineers-and-artists-rather-than-actual-engineers-and-artists.707420/page-3

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When the greatest threat to the status quo finally shows up that has the potential to improve lives, Nepenthe reliably rails against it.
The best part is how she ended that post with a phrase that was used by her own ideological fellow travelers about the superiority of their system to capitalism, that you could make some omelets and usher in a new form of man but you would need to be breaking a few eggs in the process. Another time Stalin responded to the Lady Astor asking if he needed to kill so many people with a dismissive mention about how the utopian form of man that would result more than outweighs the deaths of a few obsoletes who couldn't become superior to capitalism.

Really that post, and all her posts, show she's amazingly ignorant of even just the concept of capitalism. She has never ever on the forum defined what she means by it and thinks it's some system that has to be imposed like the totalitarian socialism she favors. It's remarkable that an entire forum is in thrall to someone who constantly displays their massive ignorance about basically every subject she comes across. She's Dunning-Kreuger beyond most forms because she's not just ignorant and completely sure of what she's ignorant about but she's constantly angry at everyone else for not only not being as ignorant as she is but refusing to conform to her own ignorance. She desperately wishes things to be a constant state of war of all against all and she absolutely is pissed off that this continues to not be the case.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #47344 on: April 12, 2023, 11:50:18 AM »
It's wild seeing these white collar workers thinking they can just waltz into construction -

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I guess working construction will be fine..... hahhaa...haha..ha....fuck.

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Maybe I should take up welding or something similar.

They have no trade. No experience. The reality is they'd be competing against school leavers for the type of work available to them.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/donald-glover-faces-backlash-for-hiring-ai-prompt-engineers-and-artists-rather-than-actual-engineers-and-artists.707420/page-7

I like that they act like it’s some punishment. I’m a geotechnical field engineer, and actively choose to be on construction sites as opposed to the exploration and analysis side, because office work/culture sucks fucking dick.

But yeah, lol at the dude that thinks he can waltz into the laborer’s union.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #47345 on: April 12, 2023, 11:51:03 AM »
I mocking the phrase because I thought people here were way more aware how the idea of “progress” can justify heinous and stupid shit. Yes, in this case also it counts both sides given how RE is a self proclaimed progressive forum.

If this was limited to grunt work (textures) way less people will get mad about. But is not, and you know a random corpo executive will say that random piece of art is good enough for promotional art even if it has seven fingers and a nipple in the belly button.
Of course society at large doesn’t give a fuck, like a ton of awful corpo practices. I’m not going to pretend I do that much either…

But to me is really gross to try to justify it with “is progress like street lamps” because people here have low opinion of artists.

I’m not going into rare minerals threads and just say “those child slaves have it coming” because I like my IPhone (neither go “you fucking monsters with your phones”). The world is more complicated than that.
Well, many people don’t seem particularly happy about it, if the bitching in art communities is anything to go by.

Also, is kind of laughable that you are arguing that “capitalism working as intended” when the article was from companies from China.  And last time I checked, no everyone is happy about China’s manufacture practices either.  ;)

That’s why I told you that “let’s not pretend” with China companies using it as some sort of positive barometer and the market working.
What it has to do with a Chinese company trying to not pay artists for their waifu gacha games whose server energy usage are also killing the environment?

Like I said before, I’m not against AI. I’m against pretending that there is not legit concerns, that artists are entitled or that “progress” isn’t used to justify the dismissal of this concerns.
The article just told you it did because China doesn’t give a fuck. Not discussing you that isn’t an all or nothing situation, but YOU GUYS TALK LIKE ITS IS when you are dismissive of complains or worries.
Yeah and people don’t get banned here for “dismissing concerns”. :yeshrug So what is the problem that I don’t like how absolutely dismissive you guys sound when talking about this. I fucking hate care posting about AI and I was regretting posting the Donald Glover thread, but I needed to carepost when you outright was dismissing people not being thrilled of Chinese companies using AI to not pay their employees and somehow like working as intended. :awesome
The precautionary principle precludes itself. Using force to suppress AI will not benefit anyone so their complaints should be dismissed as there is no remedy to provide.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #47346 on: April 12, 2023, 11:53:28 AM »
:no1curr :no1curr :no1curr :no1curr :no1curr :no1curr :no1curr :no1curr :no1curr :no1curr :no1curr :no1curr :no1curr

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #47347 on: April 12, 2023, 11:54:45 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/donald-glover-faces-backlash-for-hiring-ai-prompt-engineers-and-artists-rather-than-actual-engineers-and-artists.707420/

Regardless of how you feel about AI, BCT is again trying to downplay that a black artist they like is doing something that usually gets called names at RE:

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Not going to blame him. That's the future we're heading in.

Have some principles, my man.  :lol

Even the thread OP is dismissive even if is something they do all the time:

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... and by backlash, I mean people on twitter getting angry of course.

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"AI prompt engineer" is definitely going to be one of the most lucrative fake jobs to have in the next few years. Literally a professional idea guy.

 :doge it's literally something you can do well, or do poorly and take forever to get your desired result

you can spend hours reading up on strategies, incorporating others' tricks and suggestions

you have to learn how to seek out models that might be better suited to the specific thing you're working on, how to make your own models if you want a consistent look for a character, and have the technical knowledge to configure a PC (or even a GPU array) that gets you better results faster

most significantly, inpainting touch-up takes actual artistic vision and skill, as much as anyone skilled in Photoshop, recognizing which parts of the image are flawed and how to fix it

AI is easy to get something random that looks cool when you don't care about the result, but the more specific your vision, the more there is a case to be made that it's a learnable skill

Though one of the funniest things I've seen was prompt engineers being all secret about what prompts they use. It's like they suddenly want that individuality that comes with being an artist but also know that as soon as you hand someone the same words they can produce exactly the same

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #47348 on: April 12, 2023, 12:01:41 PM »
ok i first heard the word "prompt engineer" used as a job title this morning and it already makes me want to punch someone in the dick  :punch

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #47349 on: April 12, 2023, 12:05:52 PM »
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Why yes I am a Prompt Engineer how can you tell.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #47350 on: April 12, 2023, 12:06:02 PM »
moblin not liking this post is genocide
As a master of a like format you have to pick up on his nuances, if moblin doesn't like your post if may be that he's trying to send you a message about something you've done somewhere that you need to reevaluate your life about. While others may just like something because it made them laugh, moblin understands the potential of social change embedded in each like and therefore allows the spirit of the Dao to direct his likes where they can deliver impact in moving us all towards spiritual enlightenment.

in this case, the clearest indication that you have fucked up is the fact that moblin conspicuously liked a post exactly three posts after the begging one
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #47351 on: April 12, 2023, 12:07:16 PM »
moblin not liking this post is genocide
As a master of a like format you have to pick up on his nuances, if moblin doesn't like your post if may be that he's trying to send you a message about something you've done somewhere that you need to reevaluate your life about. While others may just like something because it made them laugh, moblin understands the potential of social change embedded in each like and therefore allows the spirit of the Dao to direct his likes where they can deliver impact in moving us all towards spiritual enlightenment.

Or Moblin may just want GG dead. Occams Razor and all.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #47352 on: April 12, 2023, 12:10:06 PM »
:no1curr :no1curr :no1curr :no1curr :no1curr :no1curr :no1curr :no1curr :no1curr :no1curr :no1curr :no1curr :no1curr
You'll change your tune when the "no one cares" bot is up and running. :snob

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #47353 on: April 12, 2023, 12:11:53 PM »
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it is not a good situation when people can get banned for non-obvious rules (like "you cannot use source X") that are listed nowhere. Which is why I would suggest the following policy: For non-obvious infractions like "writing about Harry Potter" or "linking to Fox News as a source" (I do not know if Fox News is actually banned, please do not get mad at me if it is not)

:delicious

scared of being banned because you're not sure if your example is in fact banned or not is such a perfect encapsulation of eras catch 22 moderation policy

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #47354 on: April 12, 2023, 12:15:59 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ai-is-already-taking-video-game-illustrators-jobs-in-china-tencent-mihoyo-netease.707330/page-7#post-104022452

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I never said the art isn't impressive. I think it looks pretty good myself also, and I've played it a lot. That's why I wrote more in my sentence that contextualises the point.

The art is technically impressive. Because a boss at the mega studio with hundreds of employees ordered it to be made by a massive team, to make the most amount of profit. It looks good, but in a generic fantasy anime way. Hence why it could be replicated by AI, which is why MiHoYo, the developer of Genshin Impact, is literally called out for using AI in this article and the title of this thread.

But hey, keep on being a jerk, immediately calling people fools the second they say anything about your precious Genshin.
They are using AI technology to replace a criminally investigated Voice Actor to minimize the outcome of his absence.
But hey free to not read the article and make a fool out of yourself.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #47355 on: April 12, 2023, 12:16:15 PM »
I just don't see what's hard about not posting anything about topics that have been banned but listed nowhere, like just don't post about them, that's not a reason to put the staff in danger.

But do please continue to post in order to bring important awareness to key issues like the global trans genocide, video game companies engaged in sexual harassment towards suicides (never mind, not important like Harry Potter, everybody does it), slave labor involved in electronics production, etc. I see so many of those threads go without responses and it's sickening that people choose not to post about these important topics that need to be discussed.
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« Reply #47356 on: April 12, 2023, 12:26:06 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/biden-ends-covid-emergency-declaration.707375/page-4#post-103986257

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We get it, COVID can’t touch you, you’re very cool and we’re all impressed.
Quite the opposite; I’m just a normal, well-adjusted human being with a reasonable sense of risk around COVID. Nothing special, even if it seems out of place from where you’re standing.

Common sense is trolling?

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« Reply #47357 on: April 12, 2023, 01:25:28 PM »
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these people sure hate twitter AND forget to remove their accounts. :thinking

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« Reply #47358 on: April 12, 2023, 01:49:46 PM »
I mocking the phrase because I thought people here were way more aware how the idea of “progress” can justify heinous and stupid shit. Yes, in this case also it counts both sides given how RE is a self proclaimed progressive forum.

If this was limited to grunt work (textures) way less people will get mad about. But is not, and you know a random corpo executive will say that random piece of art is good enough for promotional art even if it has seven fingers and a nipple in the belly button.
Of course society at large doesn’t give a fuck, like a ton of awful corpo practices. I’m not going to pretend I do that much either…

But to me is really gross to try to justify it with “is progress like street lamps” because people here have low opinion of artists.

I’m not going into rare minerals threads and just say “those child slaves have it coming” because I like my IPhone (neither go “you fucking monsters with your phones”). The world is more complicated than that.
Well, many people don’t seem particularly happy about it, if the bitching in art communities is anything to go by.

Also, is kind of laughable that you are arguing that “capitalism working as intended” when the article was from companies from China.  And last time I checked, no everyone is happy about China’s manufacture practices either.  ;)

That’s why I told you that “let’s not pretend” with China companies using it as some sort of positive barometer and the market working.
What it has to do with a Chinese company trying to not pay artists for their waifu gacha games whose server energy usage are also killing the environment?

Like I said before, I’m not against AI. I’m against pretending that there is not legit concerns, that artists are entitled or that “progress” isn’t used to justify the dismissal of this concerns.
The article just told you it did because China doesn’t give a fuck. Not discussing you that isn’t an all or nothing situation, but YOU GUYS TALK LIKE ITS IS when you are dismissive of complains or worries.
Yeah and people don’t get banned here for “dismissing concerns”. :yeshrug So what is the problem that I don’t like how absolutely dismissive you guys sound when talking about this. I fucking hate care posting about AI and I was regretting posting the Donald Glover thread, but I needed to carepost when you outright was dismissing people not being thrilled of Chinese companies using AI to not pay their employees and somehow like working as intended. :awesome
The precautionary principle precludes itself. Using force to suppress AI will not benefit anyone so their complaints should be dismissed as there is no remedy to provide.

Did I say “BAN AI”?  Did I say “LISTEN TO NEPENTHE”?

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #47359 on: April 12, 2023, 01:59:05 PM »
Did I say “BAN AI”?  Did I say “LISTEN TO NEPENTHE”?
That was the position of ResetERA.com that was being criticized that you responded to asking Uncle, Potato and others not to dismiss. I absolutely do not believe you support them but that was the criticism you were responding to so fervently.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #47360 on: April 12, 2023, 02:00:36 PM »
I never asked what you are actually bored from
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« Reply #47361 on: April 12, 2023, 02:04:31 PM »
https://twitter.com/cenkuygur/status/1645869927038062592

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No, it's not. If left-wing politicians use language that is greatly alienating to the majority of voters, then Republicans win elections. And then they pass laws against trans people!! You're hurting your own cause. We want to protect trans rights, we want to fight against bigoted laws. Instead you all are fighting on losing ground for no reason! You keep saying that no one uses these terms and then turn around and say politicians should use them. Which one is it?

 :cenk

From genocide denier, to genocide do-er :tocry
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« Reply #47362 on: April 12, 2023, 02:07:07 PM »
I never asked what you are actually bored from

illustrating maybe

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #47363 on: April 12, 2023, 02:16:45 PM »
I never asked what you are actually bored from

Adult women
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« Reply #47364 on: April 12, 2023, 02:18:40 PM »
From genocide denier, to genocide do-er :tocry
Maybe after all the feedback he got he looked up what a "genocide" actually is and decided he was pretty keen on the idea.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #47365 on: April 12, 2023, 02:19:55 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/uk-pub-landlords-won%E2%80%99t-back-down-over-displaying-racist-golliwogs-dolls-seized-by-police.707483/page-3#post-104023901

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It sounds like the word, pollywog, which is another term for a tadpole. It's derived from the middle English words for "wiggling head" so pollywog doesn't have racist origins at least.
This sounds uncomfortably like a racist description of Indians to me.

 :what
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #47366 on: April 12, 2023, 02:20:32 PM »
I never asked what you are actually bored from

Adult women

wow rude
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« Reply #47367 on: April 12, 2023, 02:21:00 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/uk-pub-landlords-won%E2%80%99t-back-down-over-displaying-racist-golliwogs-dolls-seized-by-police.707483/page-3#post-104023901

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It sounds like the word, pollywog, which is another term for a tadpole. It's derived from the middle English words for "wiggling head" so pollywog doesn't have racist origins at least.
This sounds uncomfortably like a racist description of Indians to me.

 :what
People on that forum sure know a lot of obscure, sometimes never before used, racist terms.

Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #47368 on: April 12, 2023, 02:36:14 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/at-the-height-of-the-attack-on-trans-folk-cenk-and-ana-of-the-young-turks-decide-to-dabble-in-some-old-news-transphobia.700291/post-104038313
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Cenk has always been a shit, I'm still appalled that it's taken this long for people to notice.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/at-the-height-of-the-attack-on-trans-folk-cenk-and-ana-of-the-young-turks-decide-to-dabble-in-some-old-news-transphobia.700291/post-104044265
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threads about trans people really aren't the place for cis people to gloat about how they knew someone was bad or always suspected or whatever the hell. Stop making our struggle about you.

but on topic, fuck the term biological woman, always is used by cis women to tell us that we aren't real women

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« Reply #47369 on: April 12, 2023, 02:38:46 PM »
dubs getting on that axiom of genociders list

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #47370 on: April 12, 2023, 02:40:55 PM »
B-genociDubs imo
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #47371 on: April 12, 2023, 02:43:18 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/at-the-height-of-the-attack-on-trans-folk-cenk-and-ana-of-the-young-turks-decide-to-dabble-in-some-old-news-transphobia.700291/post-104044265
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but on topic, fuck the term biological woman, always is used by cis women to tell us that we aren't real women
Interesting, why might you have appended "cis" here to differentiate? :hmm

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #47372 on: April 12, 2023, 02:45:18 PM »
Did I say “BAN AI”?  Did I say “LISTEN TO NEPENTHE”?
That was the position of ResetERA.com that was being criticized that you responded to asking Uncle, Potato and others not to dismiss. I absolutely do not believe you support them but that was the criticism you were responding to so fervently.

Nah, Benji:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ai-is-already-taking-video-game-illustrators-jobs-in-china-tencent-mihoyo-netease.707330/

these apocalyptic comments, I can't :dead

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Humanity lost

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Bleak

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This is scary stuff :O

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All of this is so bleak. Stop.

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Trying so hard to find a silver lining in the AIpocalypse.

labor is worth what people are willing to pay for it

if it used to take 10,000 hours to draw a detailed plant texture that ended up in the background that few people even noticed, and now it takes 10 seconds, yes my dude you are out of a job

I have mocked the idea of AI ban, but the post are not outright alluding to that.

The bolded stuff was the thing that kind of pissed me off... specially since he is talking about chinese companies.

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« Reply #47373 on: April 12, 2023, 02:50:16 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/uk-pub-landlords-won%E2%80%99t-back-down-over-displaying-racist-golliwogs-dolls-seized-by-police.707483/page-3#post-104023901

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It sounds like the word, pollywog, which is another term for a tadpole. It's derived from the middle English words for "wiggling head" so pollywog doesn't have racist origins at least.
This sounds uncomfortably like a racist description of Indians to me.

 :what
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #47374 on: April 12, 2023, 02:50:37 PM »
I have mocked the idea of AI ban, but the post are not outright alluding to that.

The bolded stuff was the thing that kind of pissed me off... specially since he is talking about chinese companies.
Yes, they are. None of those posts are commenting on the specific story, they are public performative displays of angst within the culture of a forum that has had an executive fiat that all good people must throw their sabots into the AI machine no matter how many lives it costs.

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« Reply #47375 on: April 12, 2023, 02:56:31 PM »
I have mocked the idea of AI ban, but the post are not outright alluding to that.

The bolded stuff was the thing that kind of pissed me off... specially since he is talking about chinese companies.
Yes, they are. None of those posts are commenting on the specific story, they are public performative displays of angst within the culture of a forum that has had an executive fiat that all good people must throw their sabots into the AI machine no matter how many lives it costs.

But I was commenting about the specific story, thats why I called out Uncle.

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« Reply #47376 on: April 12, 2023, 02:57:06 PM »
I have mocked the idea of AI ban, but the post are not outright alluding to that.

The bolded stuff was the thing that kind of pissed me off... specially since he is talking about chinese companies.
Yes, they are. None of those posts are commenting on the specific story, they are public performative displays of angst within the culture of a forum that has had an executive fiat that all good people must throw their sabots into the AI machine no matter how many lives it costs.
yes that was literally my intent, it was the comments acting as if the world is ending because of the proliferation of AI rather than any specifics regarding the story

if there's a thread about something awful happening to a POC and Nepenthe says something unfathomably stupid and I quote her, I'm talking about the quote, not the obviously bad thing in the news story
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #47377 on: April 12, 2023, 02:59:13 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/at-the-height-of-the-attack-on-trans-folk-cenk-and-ana-of-the-young-turks-decide-to-dabble-in-some-old-news-transphobia.700291/post-104038313
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Cenk has always been a shit, I'm still appalled that it's taken this long for people to notice.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/at-the-height-of-the-attack-on-trans-folk-cenk-and-ana-of-the-young-turks-decide-to-dabble-in-some-old-news-transphobia.700291/post-104044265
Quote from: Voras
threads about trans people really aren't the place for cis people to gloat about how they knew someone was bad or always suspected or whatever the hell. Stop making our struggle about you.

but on topic, fuck the term biological woman, always is used by cis women to tell us that we aren't real women

Isn't it interesting how cis women are transforming into the enemy. You'd think if you stepped into someone else's space you'd be a bit more humble

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #47378 on: April 12, 2023, 03:06:19 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/at-the-height-of-the-attack-on-trans-folk-cenk-and-ana-of-the-young-turks-decide-to-dabble-in-some-old-news-transphobia.700291/post-104044265
Quote from: Voras
threads about trans people really aren't the place for cis people to gloat about how they knew someone was bad or always suspected or whatever the hell. Stop making our struggle about you.

but on topic, fuck the term biological woman, always is used by cis women to tell us that we aren't real women

Isn't it interesting how cis women are transforming into the enemy. You'd think if you stepped into someone else's space you'd be a bit more humble
They're just trying to live their lives in peace but the Cis don't stop, stop making everything about you, bigot.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #47379 on: April 12, 2023, 03:06:27 PM »
I have mocked the idea of AI ban, but the post are not outright alluding to that.

The bolded stuff was the thing that kind of pissed me off... specially since he is talking about chinese companies.
Yes, they are. None of those posts are commenting on the specific story, they are public performative displays of angst within the culture of a forum that has had an executive fiat that all good people must throw their sabots into the AI machine no matter how many lives it costs.
yes that was literally my intent, it was the comments acting as if the world is ending because of the proliferation of AI rather than any specifics regarding the story

if there's a thread about something awful happening to a POC and Nepenthe says something unfathomably stupid and I quote her, I'm talking about the quote, not the obviously bad thing in the news story

And I told why was kind of shitty comment because the story mentioned a professional illustrator getting less job because a random chinese executive without standards things AI is enough and was not simple grunt work with random textures.

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« Reply #47380 on: April 12, 2023, 03:09:34 PM »
Quote from: excel
Ana

Ana

You and Cenk launched more alt right fashies than anything else lmao


Quote from: excel
Micheal Tracey lol

Then even their non alt right grifter former correspondents are often trash:

Kulinski isn't alr right but he's aggro about whining about idpol lol

Chariton is trash

Ryan Grim is anti idpol trashy

the alt-right is identity politics

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #47381 on: April 12, 2023, 03:12:08 PM »
I have mocked the idea of AI ban, but the post are not outright alluding to that.

The bolded stuff was the thing that kind of pissed me off... specially since he is talking about chinese companies.
Yes, they are. None of those posts are commenting on the specific story, they are public performative displays of angst within the culture of a forum that has had an executive fiat that all good people must throw their sabots into the AI machine no matter how many lives it costs.
yes that was literally my intent, it was the comments acting as if the world is ending because of the proliferation of AI rather than any specifics regarding the story

if there's a thread about something awful happening to a POC and Nepenthe says something unfathomably stupid and I quote her, I'm talking about the quote, not the obviously bad thing in the news story

And I told why was kind of shitty comment because the story mentioned a professional illustrator getting less job because a random chinese executive without standards things AI is enough and was not simple grunt work with random textures.

but what are you actually bored from  ???
Uncle

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #47382 on: April 12, 2023, 03:12:58 PM »
I have mocked the idea of AI ban, but the post are not outright alluding to that.

The bolded stuff was the thing that kind of pissed me off... specially since he is talking about chinese companies.
Yes, they are. None of those posts are commenting on the specific story, they are public performative displays of angst within the culture of a forum that has had an executive fiat that all good people must throw their sabots into the AI machine no matter how many lives it costs.
yes that was literally my intent, it was the comments acting as if the world is ending because of the proliferation of AI rather than any specifics regarding the story

if there's a thread about something awful happening to a POC and Nepenthe says something unfathomably stupid and I quote her, I'm talking about the quote, not the obviously bad thing in the news story

And I told why was kind of shitty comment because the story mentioned a professional illustrator getting less job because a random chinese executive without standards things AI is enough and was not simple grunt work with random textures.

but what are you actually bored from  ???

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #47384 on: April 12, 2023, 03:20:59 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/person-used-stable-diffusion-multicontrolnet-to-make-dancing-animation-of-wsjn-boogie-up.707669/

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amazing use of keyboard keys to write inputs

modern game comes out: "amazing use of seven mouse clicks to enable UE5 antialiasing, filtering and shaders  :smug "
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #47385 on: April 12, 2023, 04:31:23 PM »
I think they might be taking the Marxist labor theory of value a little too literally.

Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #47386 on: April 12, 2023, 04:33:50 PM »
Moba just invest in AI to moderate the forum. That way moderation would improve and they would save a lot of money.
oh wait...
 :girlaff

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #47387 on: April 12, 2023, 04:52:01 PM »
taking bets: will this be allowed in the Rowling Legacy of Hate thread, or is mention of it banned because Harold Potter is banned?

https://www.ign.com/articles/harry-potter-tv-series-officially-announced-for-max

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During the Warner Bros. Discovery streaming call today, it was revealed that the series will be a "faithful adaptation" of the novels. A new cast will be playing the characters, and the series has been given a massive 10-year commitment. It's worth noting, however, that 10 years doesn't necessarily mean 10 seasons - just that the series will play out over the course of a decade.

JK Rowling will be serving as executive producer.
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« Reply #47388 on: April 12, 2023, 04:54:05 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/warner-bros-discovery-stock-drops-after-max-presentation.707936/

RE suddenly forgets how the stock market usually reacts.

Now that is performative activism.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #47390 on: April 12, 2023, 04:55:24 PM »
Moba just invest in AI to moderate the forum. That way moderation would improve and they would save a lot of money.
oh wait...
 :girlaff

Why pay a 'prompt engineer' a couple of hundred dollars when it can be done for free?

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #47391 on: April 12, 2023, 04:57:11 PM »
Shakey! :titus
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #47392 on: April 12, 2023, 05:21:43 PM »
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« Last Edit: April 12, 2023, 05:27:51 PM by Greatness Gone »

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #47393 on: April 12, 2023, 05:44:05 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/at-the-height-of-the-attack-on-trans-folk-cenk-and-ana-of-the-young-turks-decide-to-dabble-in-some-old-news-transphobia.700291/post-104038313
Quote from: B-Dubs
Cenk has always been a shit, I'm still appalled that it's taken this long for people to notice.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/at-the-height-of-the-attack-on-trans-folk-cenk-and-ana-of-the-young-turks-decide-to-dabble-in-some-old-news-transphobia.700291/post-104044265
Quote from: Voras
threads about trans people really aren't the place for cis people to gloat about how they knew someone was bad or always suspected or whatever the hell. Stop making our struggle about you.

but on topic, fuck the term biological woman, always is used by cis women to tell us that we aren't real women

internet janitor getting humiliated in the same forum he moderates free of charge :point

 :nothot keep  your head low bitch.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #47394 on: April 12, 2023, 05:52:28 PM »
 :ufup   We need as many cis allies in this thread speaking out against our genocide...


 :pacspit ....so we can tell yo bitch asses to shut the fuck up



you ain't respected in these streets. 

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« Reply #47395 on: April 12, 2023, 06:23:51 PM »
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Weirdly enough a thread that just asserts how heterosexual cis male dominated this forum is. Someone going "I had more fun with the weirder campier goofier movie" would not get this much pure vitriol in queer circles
https://www.resetera.com/threads/polygon-1993%E2%80%99s-super-mario-bros-is-so-much-better-than-the-new-animated-movie.707915/post-104054237

Apparently it's gay to like bad movies?

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #47396 on: April 12, 2023, 06:29:55 PM »
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Weirdly enough a thread that just asserts how heterosexual cis male dominated this forum is. Someone going "I had more fun with the weirder campier goofier movie" would not get this much pure vitriol in queer circles
https://www.resetera.com/threads/polygon-1993%E2%80%99s-super-mario-bros-is-so-much-better-than-the-new-animated-movie.707915/post-104054237

Apparently it's gay to like bad movies?

"when I went back to my insular cult and told them I loved the Mario movie and other people were making fun of me for it, they all lavished praise on me and told me my opinion was heckin valid, I don't know what it is about hanging out with the cult but they just make me feel so good about myself all the time, makes me want to spend less time elsewhere, it's weird"
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« Reply #47397 on: April 12, 2023, 06:36:05 PM »
Quote
Weirdly enough a thread that just asserts how heterosexual cis male dominated this forum is. Someone going "I had more fun with the weirder campier goofier movie" would not get this much pure vitriol in queer circles
https://www.resetera.com/threads/polygon-1993%E2%80%99s-super-mario-bros-is-so-much-better-than-the-new-animated-movie.707915/post-104054237

Apparently it's gay to like bad movies?

"when I went back to my insular cult and told them I loved the Mario movie and other people were making fun of me for it, they all lavished praise on me and told me my opinion was heckin valid, I don't know what it is about hanging out with the cult but they just make me feel so good about myself all the time, makes me want to spend less time elsewhere, it's weird"

:phil

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #47398 on: April 12, 2023, 06:42:05 PM »
Quote
Weirdly enough a thread that just asserts how heterosexual cis male dominated this forum is. Someone going "I had more fun with the weirder campier goofier movie" would not get this much pure vitriol in queer circles
https://www.resetera.com/threads/polygon-1993%E2%80%99s-super-mario-bros-is-so-much-better-than-the-new-animated-movie.707915/post-104054237

Apparently it's gay to like bad movies?
there is a segment of the gay population that forgot that "camp" media actually has to have well crafted elements and not just be overtly terrible. Rocky Horror Picture Show, But I'm A Cheerleader, Showgirls etc. for instance have confrontational themes and meaningful aspects about them despite being messily made movies.

Invoking your LGBT card for the fucking Super Mario Bros. movie is basically just an easy way to call people bad for not liking what you like.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #47399 on: April 12, 2023, 06:48:35 PM »
I'm sure Ree is absolutely MALDING at the fact that they can't talk about the CEO of HBO committing literal genocide. Even HBO knows this "controversy" is terminally online bullshit.

https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/hbo-jk-rowling-involvement-harry-potter-series-1235580848/
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“No, I don’t think this is the forum,” Bloys said. “That’s a very online conversation, very nuanced and complicated and not something we’re going to get into.”

“Our priority is what’s on the screen,” Bloys continued. “Obviously, the ‘Harry Potter’ story is incredibly affirmative and positive and about love and self-acceptance. That’s our priority — what’s on screen.”