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person-first terminology

the difference between being called "an addict" and "a person who is addicted to a substance"

or a "colored person" vs. "person of color"

"disabled person" vs. "those with disabilities"

HardcoreRetro · « **Reply #792 on:** June 30, 2022, 10:55:37 AM »

*Click on profile*

Bunch of mental illnesses proudly displayed. Tried to kill himself like 3 hours ago. (If anything from these people can be believed.)

Resilient to trauma. Sure sounds like it.

HaughtyFrank · « **Reply #793 on:** June 30, 2022, 11:02:43 AM »

Quote from: Uncle on June 30, 2022, 10:50:55 AM

person-first terminology

the difference between being called "an addict" and "a person who is addicted to a substance"

or a "colored person" vs. "person of color"

"disabled person" vs. "those with disabilities"

Ah alright, that makes sense. I thought the term addiction was the problem

james · « **Reply #794 on:** June 30, 2022, 11:49:18 AM »

Quote from: Uncle on June 30, 2022, 10:50:55 AM

person-first terminology

the difference between being called "an addict" and "a person who is addicted to a substance"

or a "colored person" vs. "person of color"

"disabled person" vs. "those with disabilities"

Borean

Person of the Bore

Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #795 on:** June 30, 2022, 02:03:40 PM »

I tell people I'm a Birean.

Pissy F Benny · « **Reply #796 on:** June 30, 2022, 03:04:03 PM »

Quote from: HaughtyFrank on June 30, 2022, 10:38:45 AM

https://twitter.com/mysticcshadow/status/1542193467199193090

I'm confused

"Yes I'm an addict, don't call me an addict. I also work in addictions"

Its called mental gymnastics mate.

Potato · « **Reply #797 on:** June 30, 2022, 04:14:54 PM »

Quote from: james on June 30, 2022, 11:49:18 AM

Quote from: Uncle on June 30, 2022, 10:50:55 AM
person-first terminology

the difference between being called "an addict" and "a person who is addicted to a substance"

or a "colored person" vs. "person of color"

"disabled person" vs. "those with disabilities"

Borean

Person of the Bore

Boring person.
Person of The Bore.
Same same.

benjipwns · « **Reply #798 on:** June 30, 2022, 05:50:10 PM »

https://twitter.com/BarbraLou/status/1542206376922849280

Quote from: https://www.hiddenvilla.org/programs/summer-camps/region-HV/

Part of what caused the abrupt departure of Camp Staff was an ongoing process to discuss symbols on the historic Duveneck house. The house, built in 1929, had 3 tiles, approximately twelve inches by twelve inches, with Buddhist swastikas and a lotus embedded in the architecture. These tiles were purchased by Frank and Josephine Duveneck while on their honeymoon in 1913 traveling through Asia. It was brought to the community’s attention that the Buddhist symbols were experienced differently and some individuals experienced harm from their presence on the building. A process to address the issue was identified with Staff and Board. After community discussions, on Monday, June 6, the decision was made to remove the tiles from the building. They were removed on Tuesday, June 7.

The resignation of our Camp leadership team on June 5th, prior to the decision of the Committee on June 6, put us in the position of making the difficult decision regarding Camp. It also highlights the need for the organization to continue to pause, reflect, and further develop plans of action to address the racial equity concerns shared by staff. Honoring and welcoming people from all backgrounds at Hidden Villa is core to who we are and what we stand for. Any pain that our current and former staff, especially any Staff of Color, have felt during their tenure at the organization, deeply saddens us. We are committed to creating an environment where all feel seen, welcome, and heard.

Hidden Villa has been investing in issues of racial equity over the last couple of years, such as the formation of the JEDI (Justice, Equity, Diversity, and Inclusion) Council, the DEIA (Diversity, Equity, Inclusion, and Access) Advisory Committee, and staff training, but for some, the pace of change has been too slow. Unfortunately, in organizing a complex and inclusive process, we were too slow to respond to the voices that expressed pain and concern over the symbols on the house, and we recognize how that was interpreted as a lack of concern.

The decision to cancel Camp has been heart-wrenching and staff is still triaging care for all involved. We acknowledge the impact our decision to cancel Camp has had a truly painful impact on the 900+ campers, approximately 700 families, Hidden Villa seasonal Camp staff, partners, and vendors who help us deliver our Summer Camp. Over the next few weeks, we will continue to come together internally to outline the next steps to address these issues, restore the health of our community process, and we will share the plan with you.

Quote from: https://www.hiddenvilla.org/programs/summer-camps/region-HV/

June 13, 2022

Dear Hidden Villa Community,

I hope this email finds you well. Following up on our email from June 8, we have additional updates to share with you.

As a community, many of us are still reeling, processing, and in pain from the recent events that have transpired. This week, we are focused on an internal reflection process. All staff members will be invited to participate in a series of facilitated meetings to ensure that staff is heard, understood, and given space to voice their perspectives.

Hearing from our valued community members is also important, so in the near future we’ll be reaching out to groups of program participants, donors, former staff, mission-aligned organization partners, and other affinity groups. After we go through this listening process, we will then create an actionable plan that outlines our systems and structure to ensure that we uphold the values that are fundamental to Hidden Villa. Our hope is this will lead towards a restorative process and developing positive strategies for moving forward as an organization.

During this week of reflection, Hidden Villa will be closed (from Monday, June 13 through Monday, June 20). We plan to open to visitors again starting on Tuesday, June 21st. Please visit our website for more information on planning your trip.

We also want to share that Philip Arca tendered his resignation on Friday, June 10, as Interim Executive Director due to health reasons. The search for a new, long-term Executive Director continues. We will be seeking a candidate who demonstrates commitment and expertise in embedding diversity, equity, and inclusion principles and systems into an organization. Applicants have been apprised of the closure of Camp and recent events. The Board is actively looking for solutions for the short-term leadership gap.

Finally, a group of staff along with dedicated former staff will be exploring summer programming opportunities for the coming weeks. We will share more information as soon as we have it.

In closing, I want to thank everyone who has reached out. We appreciate the support, perspectives, questions, concerns, and constructive criticism. Hidden Villa is a special place for a large and diverse community. We will continue to do our very best to ensure this community gem remains a refuge that builds connections and inspires a deeper appreciation and respect for nature, food, and one another.

Sincerely,
Peter Hartzell, Board Chair

tiles you may experience differently inside

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Boredfrom · « **Reply #799 on:** June 30, 2022, 06:44:33 PM »

Maybe they could teach people that those symbols were appropriated by Nazis and mean something else for many Asian cultures… feels counterproductive for a place that wanted to teach.

HaughtyFrank · « **Reply #800 on:** June 30, 2022, 09:41:10 PM »

I like how often they repeat that they want to be inclusive, diverse etc. while removing cultural Buddhist symbols.

Nintex · « **Reply #801 on:** July 02, 2022, 07:57:59 AM »

You know what's not cancelled kiddo's?

GAMERGATE CAMP

It's getting hard to keep up with this.
https://twitter.com/Deke_Moulton/status/1542963038449414144

HaughtyFrank · « **Reply #802 on:** July 02, 2022, 08:17:04 AM »

https://twitter.com/Deke_Moulton/status/1542966947658141698

VomKriege · « **Reply #803 on:** July 02, 2022, 09:32:40 AM »

Quote from: Nintex on July 02, 2022, 07:57:59 AM

It's getting hard to keep up with this.

That Bram Stoker's Dracula is using pretty insensitive stereotypes ? That nefarious secret cabal conspiracies involving blood often overlap with antisemitism ? Seems basic and well understood.

Kunai With Chain · « **Reply #804 on:** July 02, 2022, 09:51:33 AM »

Did Dracula try to control the world through his secret cabal?

VomKriege · « **Reply #805 on:** July 02, 2022, 09:56:18 AM »

Quote from: Kunai With Chain on July 02, 2022, 09:51:33 AM

Did Dracula try to control the world through his secret cabal?

I don't think so.

https://twitter.com/dizzydoinggreat/status/1542929170224775168

Potato · « **Reply #806 on:** July 02, 2022, 05:11:29 PM »

Plugging his book. Lol.

Nintex · « **Reply #807 on:** July 02, 2022, 07:28:20 PM »

Plugging them/their readable

benjipwns · « **Reply #808 on:** July 03, 2022, 06:08:21 AM »

https://twitter.com/drudraper/status/1542971600630255616

benjipwns · « **Reply #809 on:** July 04, 2022, 11:43:06 PM »

Queer brown person FIRED DURING PRIDE MONTH OF ALL MONTHS for standing up for people with uteruses rights:

Potato · « **Reply #810 on:** July 04, 2022, 11:55:43 PM »

Quote from: benjipwns on July 04, 2022, 11:43:06 PM

Queer brown person FIRED DURING PRIDE MONTH OF ALL MONTHS for standing up for people with uteruses rights:

When will this fuckwit and his ilk learn that it is possible to have a righteous message, but to behave in a way that means you will be fired?

BIONIC · « **Reply #811 on:** July 05, 2022, 03:24:04 AM »

“Yours in fury”

Uncle · « **Reply #812 on:** July 05, 2022, 01:28:03 PM »

finds new potential job

lists previous employer as reference

"oh we fired him because something occurring in american politics caused him to refuse to do his job in protest, very unstable individual, poor judgement"

"sorry sir, it doesn't seem like you'd be a good fit for this company"

not enough savings to maintain his car payments anymore and chooses house over car, meaning he needs to job search locally

only job he can find is at a local california walgreens with inconsistent hours

"sorry mike, we have to close up shop because too many people have shoplifted exactly $950 worth of goods from this location and corporate has decided it's a bad risk"

can no longer afford california

couch surfs and gofundmes his way to a shitty burger king job in utah, surrounded by mormon conservatives blasting their hate rhetoric at him 24/7

life is terrible, no prospects

where did it all go so wrong? it's not me, it must be the system

HaughtyFrank · « **Reply #813 on:** July 05, 2022, 03:09:23 PM »

https://twitter.com/mandolakes/status/1544369024913457155

james · « **Reply #814 on:** July 05, 2022, 03:14:57 PM »

BIONIC · « **Reply #815 on:** July 05, 2022, 03:57:03 PM »

Nintex · « **Reply #816 on:** July 05, 2022, 05:08:52 PM »

This is the trans version of the Alpha Rivelino green lines and the same 'Michelle Obama is actually a man because she is built like one' talking points

Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #817 on:** July 05, 2022, 05:11:14 PM »

big butts

james · « **Reply #818 on:** July 05, 2022, 05:13:55 PM »

I have a big butt am I a female

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I also have a massive dong

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BIONIC · « **Reply #819 on:** July 05, 2022, 06:52:39 PM »

Quote from: james on July 05, 2022, 05:13:55 PM

I have a big butt am I a female

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I also have a massive dong
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Pics plz

VomKriege · « **Reply #820 on:** July 06, 2022, 08:01:00 AM »

https://twitter.com/miniondeathcult/status/1544431735458320384

Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #821 on:** July 06, 2022, 08:06:33 AM »

thats amazing

HaughtyFrank · « **Reply #822 on:** July 06, 2022, 02:53:56 PM »

https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1544679512327081984

Dilbert having a bit of a day

james · « **Reply #823 on:** July 06, 2022, 03:04:05 PM »

Thank God I was a teen in the early 2000s because option 3 was available to me.

3) Listen to emo and nu-metal for hours

Potato · « **Reply #824 on:** July 06, 2022, 03:26:30 PM »

Quote from: james on July 06, 2022, 03:04:05 PM

Thank God I was a teen in the early 2000s because option 3 was available to me.

3) Listen to emo and nu-metal for hours

I liked you better when you were just a pedo

benjipwns · « **Reply #825 on:** July 06, 2022, 03:33:06 PM »

Quote from: Nintex on July 05, 2022, 05:08:52 PM

This is the trans version of the Alpha Rivelino green lines and the same 'Michelle Obama is actually a man because she is built like one' talking points

I actually am not sure this is about trans people entirely, some of the rhetoric matches trans related stuff because they seem to be saying one sign of these "inverted" is because they are getting the genders wrong. Other tweets read definitely like TERF stuff but then others are more about how the people don't seem to actually be real but some kind of construction. I wonder if she is reading more traditional TERF posts and thinking they also see what she (and others) is seeing about these fake people everywhere when they're just bitching about trans people. In either case, more research is needed and I will accept grants to investigate her further.

Tuckers Law · « **Reply #826 on:** July 06, 2022, 04:07:50 PM »

Scott Adams took a really weird turn. If I’m getting his intentions correctly, he’s saying that society does not give a shit at all about young men in distress?