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November 19, 2009
ABC ANNOUNCES THE PREMIERE OF THE SIXTH AND FINAL SEASON OF "LOST,"
WITH A SPECIAL ALL-NIGHT EVENT ON TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 2
ABC announces the premiere of the sixth and final season of "Lost," with a special all-night event on Tuesday, February 2. A recap special will kick off the night from 8:00-9:00 p.m., ET, followed by the much anticipated two-hour premiere from 9:00-11:00 p.m.
The series will then air in its regular time period - Tuesday nights from 9:00-10:00 p.m., ET - beginning the following week, on February 9.
"Lost" stars Naveen Andrews as Sayid, Nestor Carbonell as Richard Alpert, Emilie de Ravin as Claire, Michael Emerson as Ben, Jeff Fahey as Frank Lapidus, Matthew Fox as Jack, Jorge Garcia as Hurley, Josh Holloway as Sawyer, Daniel Dae Kim as Jin, Yunjin Kim as Sun, Ken Leung as Miles, Evangeline Lilly as Kate, Terry O'Quinn as Locke and Zuleikha Robinson as Ilana.
"Lost" was created by Jeffrey Lieber and J.J. Abrams & Damon Lindelof. Abrams, Lindelof, Bryan Burk, Jack Bender, Edward Kitsis, Adam Horowitz, Jean Higgins and Carlton Cuse serve as executive producers. "Lost," which is filmed entirely on location in Hawaii and premiered on September 22, 2004, is from ABC Studios.
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If V cones back in March then Tuesdays will be V/Lost.
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I feel pretty confident that this will be one of those series we look back and wonder why the ending was so bad.
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I feel pretty confident that this will be one of those series we look back and wonder why the ending was so bad.
I don't think there will be wondering about that. There will be more regret about wasting time thinking it would actually end well.
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After the clusterfuck S5, Im just hoping that S6 rights the ship somewhat.
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God damn life is worth living for again
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yeah i'm gonna need that recap episode. trying to remember now... locke has been enchanted from the dead by some immortal wizard, and half the crew are trapped in the 70's and blew up a nuke, I think.
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Locke was always dead
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I see no mention of Desmond in the list of "stars", and I seem to recall them saying that one of the regular cast members couldn't be convinced to return :-\
edit: Nevermind, I'm wrong. Did I just imagine them saying that?
After the clusterfuck S5, Im just hoping that S6 rights the ship somewhat.
:bow
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I feel pretty confident that this will be one of those series we look back and wonder why the ending was so bad.
pretty much, and I love lost
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I see no mention of Desmond in the list of "stars", and I seem to recall them saying that one of the regular cast members couldn't be convinced to return :-\
edit: Nevermind, I'm wrong. Did I just imagine them saying that?
After the clusterfuck S5, Im just hoping that S6 rights the ship somewhat.
:bow
No, EVERYONE is back.
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God damn life is worth living for again
[youtube=560,345]TSzHvRVE5uM[/youtube]
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*unzips pants*
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I see no mention of Desmond in the list of "stars", and I seem to recall them saying that one of the regular cast members couldn't be convinced to return :-\
edit: Nevermind, I'm wrong. Did I just imagine them saying that?
After the clusterfuck S5, Im just hoping that S6 rights the ship somewhat.
:bow
No, EVERYONE is back.
Source? I'd poke around on Wikipedia or darkufo but I'm afraid of spoilers
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I see no mention of Desmond in the list of "stars", and I seem to recall them saying that one of the regular cast members couldn't be convinced to return :-\
edit: Nevermind, I'm wrong. Did I just imagine them saying that?
After the clusterfuck S5, Im just hoping that S6 rights the ship somewhat.
:bow
No, EVERYONE is back.
Source? I'd poke around on Wikipedia or darkufo but I'm afraid of spoilers
If you're afraid of spoilers, then don't ask for the source.
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Not everyone is back, don't worry. And yes I do read spoilers.
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I just finished Season 4 :heart
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Not everyone is back, don't worry. And yes I do read spoilers.
Well that one person isn't, and good riddance because it was an annoying character.
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Tuesday? FFFUUUUUUUUUuuuuuuuuuuuuuu.....
(http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~ms322801/lost6poster.jpg)
Still, boner is at the ready
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I'm so homo for Desmond
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Tuesday? FFFUUUUUUUUUuuuuuuuuuuuuuu.....
(http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~ms322801/lost6poster.jpg)
Still, boner is at the ready
shieet I haven't seen S5 but someone please tell me...
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Does Mr. Eko return? Kinda wondering why he's in the poster
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Dude, Charlie and others are in the poster too
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Uh... why dont you watch S5 and it might tell you why everyone is on that poster. Moran
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Dude, Charlie and others are in the poster too
Oh yea. Forgot about that fucktard
edit: Boone too. fuck I'm done, fuck you guys I'm out of here :lol
When I saw Eko my heart fluttered. :bow
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Maybe I'm just slow today, but who're the chicks on either side of Richard Alpert and the one that Hurley Locke and Eko are tagteaming there?
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Maybe I'm just slow today, but who're the chicks on either side of Richard Alpert and the one that Hurley Locke and Eko are tagteaming there?
Libby?
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Maybe I'm just slow today, but who're the chicks on either side of Richard Alpert and the one that Hurley Locke and Eko are tagteaming there?
Shannon, Charlotte, Libby
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I just finished Season 4 :heart
Prepare to have your love dimmed in S5.
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I just finished Season 4 :heart
Prepare to have your love dimmed in S5.
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Is it the worst season? Or just a couple of notches below the awesomness that is Season 4?
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Solo's just a big vagina. LOST is amazing from start to finish. He's like the polar opposite of that omg rite guy on gaf.
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season 5 was the only season I watched week to week and I think it lessened the experience for me somewhat. Might be a lot better viewed in a single chunk.
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I liked 5 more than 4.
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:bow Hurley writing The Empire Strikes Back :bow2
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Lost has been great even since the hiccup in Season 2/ early 3. Don't let them discourage you. Even 2 and 3 are good if you watch them consecutively on DVD/ Blu-ray
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I'm re-watching S3 right now and can barely compel myself to finish. I'm like 3 episodes in. Dunno, I liked when the show was smaller yet the mysteries seemed bigger. In S3 they expand the scope of the island so much that most of the mystery goes out the window. Plus it's not great when you're rewatching and know certain things aren't going to be explained that season or the next
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I really dig the show but I had heard that this show pulls from The Dark Tower. I was hoping there would be more playing with multidimensional stuff. But I've only finished S4 so I'll see whatsup with S5.
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I really dig the show but I had heard that this show pulls from The Dark Tower. I was hoping there would be more playing with multidimensional stuff. But I've only finished S4 so I'll see whatsup with S5.
Nah, people who've only seen the first two or three seasons think that it pulls from Dark Tower. There's some similarities, but once seasons 4 and 5 happen they pretty much go away.
And if you want multidimensional stuff, that's what Fringe is for. Lost is more time travel.
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Which reminds me. I was into Fringe for a while but never got passed a few episodes into the first Season. The whole "Mysterious Technological Corporation" does make a better backdrop (than DHARMA). I'll probably pick that up eventually.
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I just finished Season 4 :heart
Prepare to have your love dimmed in S5.
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Is it the worst season? Or just a couple of notches below the awesomness that is Season 4?
Its easily the worst season. I wont spoil anything for you, but for a show that had up until that point been fairly creative and fresh, they use some of the worst plot devices and lazy writing techniques the show has ever seen in S5. There are a few good episodes, but the season as a whole, and the main thrust of it, is so insanely distinguished mentally-challenged that it hurt my overall love for the show.
Do you like time travel? How about 17 episodes of it? Do you like when amnesia is used sloppily as a plot device? If your answer is no, then youll hate S5. Also, they fuck up the character interaction of the show too by splitting people up. Do you love all the Jack and Locke conflict? Guess what? They share ONE scene in the entirety of S5. Also, if you're a big Locke fan, prepare to be buttfucked.
Anyways, yes its the worst one. Especially disappointing coming off the excellent S4.
S4 > S1 > S3 > S2 >>> S5
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I'm re-watching S3 right now and can barely compel myself to finish. I'm like 3 episodes in. Dunno, I liked when the show was smaller yet the mysteries seemed bigger. In S3 they expand the scope of the island so much that most of the mystery goes out the window. Plus it's not great when you're rewatching and know certain things aren't going to be explained that season or the next
The beginning of season 3 sucked though. It got better mid way through season 3 when the writers were able to negotiate an end date so they could stop stalling.
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Solo: Locke is probably my favorite character of substance. And yes, his struggle with Jack (who I can't stand) was one of the biggest reasons I enjoy the show.
I remember the second half of S3 being better, I just have to get to that point. Also I remember liking S4 a lot
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S5 is when Locke gets thrown under the bus
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Sigh. I kinda figured as much after the big reveal at the end of S4, but I was hoping for at least an interesting explanation
I can't stand Jack. The whole Jack/Kate/Saywer reminds me of the Cyclops/Jean/Wolverine love triangle (and I hated Cyclops); maybe I was too much of an X-Men fanatic as a kid, dunno. While each pov becomes repetitive by the second or third season, Jack's was more annoying to me, maybe because it's done almost exactly the same way each time. I get it, he can't let go.
I'm guessing one of those three has to die eventually.
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Jack is so headstrong that his character is just abrasive. I dislike him too. Though his "Kate we have to go back" face is hilarious.
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The "Jackface" is a source of comedy amongst honest LOST fans who can admit that Fox is a terrible actor. There are a lot of hilarious gifs out there of various Jackfaces throughouyt the seasons.
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http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Jackface_images
(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/lostpedia/images/b/b3/3x06-Jackface.jpg)
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Sigh. I kinda figured as much after the big reveal at the end of S4, but I was hoping for at least an interesting explanation
I can't stand Jack. The whole Jack/Kate/Saywer reminds me of the Cyclops/Jean/Wolverine love triangle (and I hated Cyclops); maybe I was too much of an X-Men fanatic as a kid, dunno. While each pov becomes repetitive by the second or third season, Jack's was more annoying to me, maybe because it's done almost exactly the same way each time. I get it, he can't let go.
I'm guessing one of those three has to die eventually.
I think Jack is written as flawed and somewhat abrasive. I think that is a good thing. Especially when everybody seems to have this false idea that you are supposed to love every character through and through in a piece of fiction. They are all pretty flawed. And they all have their good points. Which is a good thing imo. Which is a slightly separate issue from how well each of the characters is portrayed by the actors which tends to vary.
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I liked 5 more than 4.
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:bow Hurley writing The Empire Strikes Back :bow2
Jesus
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There is no hope for people who liked S5 more than S4, which was incredibly tightly plotted, focused, set up its conflict and followed through on it wonderfully. S5 is a clusterfuck.
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I've yet to see most of Season 5 yet. I need to get around to that.
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Sigh. I kinda figured as much after the big reveal at the end of S4, but I was hoping for at least an interesting explanation
I can't stand Jack. The whole Jack/Kate/Saywer reminds me of the Cyclops/Jean/Wolverine love triangle (and I hated Cyclops); maybe I was too much of an X-Men fanatic as a kid, dunno. While each pov becomes repetitive by the second or third season, Jack's was more annoying to me, maybe because it's done almost exactly the same way each time. I get it, he can't let go.
I'm guessing one of those three has to die eventually.
I think Jack is written as flawed and somewhat abrasive. I think that is a good thing. Especially when everybody seems to have this false idea that you are supposed to love every character through and through in a piece of fiction. They are all pretty flawed. And they all have their good points. Which is a good thing imo. Which is a slightly separate issue from how well each of the characters is portrayed by the actors which tends to vary.
I'm not complaining about him being flawed (every character is as you point out), I just feel each Jack POV does a bad job of hammering home the same point without making it feel fresh or interesting; I think most viewers "got it" after season 1. Locke's POV goes into some pretty ridiculous places but it's usually interesting; the last one I saw was where he brings the undercover cop into the (weed planting) community he was apart of. I liked it, even though it continues to hammer out his issues with trust and yearning for a family; I liked not having to deal with his father on screen.
I don't like Kate either. My favorite characters are Locke, Sawyer, Sayid, and Ben. Hurley is cool
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My fav's are definitely Desmond, Lock, Sawyer and Sayid. I don't really dig Hurley's scenario as much.
I abhor Claire with a passion. They made her both useless and absolutely annoying (as far as I've seen) MY BABEH MY BABEH MY BABEH MY BABEH MY BABEH MY BABEH MY BABEH MY BABEH MY BABEH MY BABEH MY BABEH MY BABEH MY BABEH MY BABEH MY BABEH MY BABEH MY BABEH MY ARRON
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I'm not complaining about him being flawed (every character is as you point out), I just feel each Jack POV does a bad job of hammering home the same point without making it feel fresh or interesting; I think most viewers "got it" after season 1. Locke's POV goes into some pretty ridiculous places but it's usually interesting; the last one I saw was where he brings the undercover cop into the (weed planting) community he was apart of. I liked it, even though it continues to hammer out his issues with trust and yearning for a family; I liked not having to deal with his father on screen.
I don't like Kate either. My favorite characters are Locke, Sawyer, Sayid, and Ben. Hurley is cool
I think Lost does a pretty good job with characterization especially for the TV medium and good characterization is often slow and consistent. I like how they generally show how a characters flaws get them into the eventual situations they are in. Some characters are handled better than others of course. Up to where I've seen, I think Jack is handled well.
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My fav's are definitely Desmond, Lock, Sawyer and Sayid. I don't really dig Hurley's scenario as much.
I abhor Claire with a passion. They made her both useless and absolutely annoying (as far as I've seen) MY BABEH MY BABEH MY BABEH MY BABEH MY BABEH MY BABEH MY BABEH MY BABEH MY BABEH MY BABEH MY BABEH MY BABEH MY BABEH MY BABEH MY BABEH MY BABEH MY BABEH MY ARRON
Claire gets a pass for being so fucking hot. But then again preggers Claire>>>non pregger Claire :violin
I couldn't stand Charlie. It really seemed like they ran out of reasons to have him on the show. I'm really tired of Sun and Jin's relationship which repeats the same pattern every season. Hurley is a fun character but his POV flashbacks are rather ridiculous. Desmond is pretty cool. Rose reminds me so much of my grandma it's kinda creepy; she even looks almost exactly like my grandma looked at that age. I really liked Mr. Eko
What do you think about Michael? I haven't seen S5 btw so no spoilers dudes
Nearly every single character on the show has some form of father issues (neglect, abuse, pressure/expectations, etc). Michael is like a case of a father's love being taken to the extreme, a father who would do anything to ensure his child's safety. That resulted in some pretty insane actions but I wonder, how many fathers would take those types of actions if they were required to guarantee their child's safety.
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PD, why dont you shut the fuck up and watch. I'll spoil everything for you right now if you fucking want it so bad.
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My fav's are definitely Desmond, Lock, Sawyer and Sayid. I don't really dig Hurley's scenario as much.
I abhor Claire with a passion. They made her both useless and absolutely annoying (as far as I've seen) MY BABEH MY BABEH MY BABEH MY BABEH MY BABEH MY BABEH MY BABEH MY BABEH MY BABEH MY BABEH MY BABEH MY BABEH MY BABEH MY BABEH MY BABEH MY BABEH MY BABEH MY ARRON
What do you think about Michael? I haven't seen S5 btw so no spoilers dudes
I really disliked Michael. Its commendable, how badly he wanted Walt back but he became too frantic and basically a Male version of Claire that actually did something about Walt being taken. One could consider him a bit misunderstood, not knowing what a father would do if put in this situation but I really didn't like him either.
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Michael was a huge baby
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Michael was as useless as Nikki and Paulo.
Shannon was the most annoying character on the show. Ever.
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I just finished S5... what a way to fucking end that Season. MOTHERFUCK.
Happy I'm caught up. Having pretty much watched it all in the span of two weeks I can say that I really dig the series as a whole. There are weak points here and there but I like the series more when it kicked into gear (latter half of S3, all of S4 and yes, I liked S5 :teehee ). Can't wait to see how it all ends.
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Oh no, a S5 lover :_(
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Kinda cool Spanish TV promo for season 6:
[youtube=560,345]C56Lgl6DorM[/youtube]
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Oh no, a S5 lover :_(
Haha what a loser. Go play with your pussy.
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You know who else is an S5 lover? omg rite :smug
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N... Nnooooooooo :'(
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That Spanish promo is so fucking hot. The US version is garbage and embarassing.
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The Spanish promo has more views than the English one and it's only been on YouTube for 2 days :lol
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The spanish culture on the internet is weird. They flock to anything Spanish in huge numbers (it happens on Flickr too with images). jajajjajajjjajjajaj
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Almost done re-watching S3. God, the flashbacks are worse then I remembered, and the side stories often feel like fan service; mainly the Sawyer stuff. He's one of my favorite characters but it seems like a lot of screen time is wasted on him when it could be spend on the actual plot.
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-Kate's flashback about meeting Sawyer's gf/con partner really sticks out as a bad one. It's another coincidence of characters running into each other and it's just not interesting.
-Right now I'm watching the D.O.C., which has a boring Sun flashback. The side story is about her trying to find out whether her pregnancy (which wasn't mentioned in many episodes) is safe. She even thinks Jack could be working with the others after he takes interest in her health. Jack, the character she has trusted for the last 3 months. So she can't trust Jack, but can go into the jungle at night alone with Juliet to get an ultrasound. lolol
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I'd keep going. It's a pretty good show, albeit frustrating
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I didn't feel very much for most of the characters in s5, and the acting was downright terrible in many cases. Kind of dissappointing they felt the need to introduce the s4 characters into the plot and utilise almost no one but Faraday.
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Started Season 1. I got about halfway through it and loved it, but all the friends I talk to about the show tell me that it gets absolutely distinguished mentally-challenged at a certain point. Are they right? Should I keep going?
It's one of the best shows on Television today, your friends are distinguished mentally-challenged fellows.
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Yup, Locke is my fav character. And Sawyer
Jack :piss2
Kate :piss2
Cyclops :piss2
Jean Grey :piss2
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Good to know. I definitely liked it. I see a lot of myself in Locke, and shows are often better when there's a character you can really relate to.
Elaborate.
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After Heroes shitty ass 2 hour premiere this week I need LOST so bad it hurts.
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:bow Jack :bow2
:piss Jack haters :piss2
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Started Season 1. I got about halfway through it and loved it, but all the friends I talk to about the show tell me that it gets absolutely distinguished mentally-challenged at a certain point. Are they right? Should I keep going?
It's one of the best shows on Television today, your friends are distinguished mentally-challenged fellows.
S5 :-X
Never gets as bad as Heroes though lol
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hmm, another person on the "ew S5" train. I remember liking S4 a lot :'(
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:bow S4 :bow2
S3=S4>S1>S2>>>>>>>>>S5
This season crept up on me, probably because I spent a whole year doing nothing. Can't wait. AND Fringe comes back right around the same time.
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what made s5 bad (without spoilerz)
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The cast is separated in one way or another for the majority of the season, some of the better characters only have a smattering of appearances, they use a plot device that could have been interesting but ends up only being used to fill plot holes, there are a few stupid deaths, and even the writing is cheesy and pedestrian at times. There were a handful of awesome scenes, but by and large it felt like a hyooooge waste of time at the end. It's much more apparent than in previous seasons that they really had no idea where they were going from the start. The funny thing is that I was like OMG THIS IS GONNA BE CRAAAAAAAZY after the first few episodes and then it just gradually went to shit.
The good news is that it looks like the next season might still be awesome.
edit: Ha Solo said pretty much the same thing verbatim on the previous page. fml
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Fuck, everyone says the exact same thing about S5. Well other than the slappies at gaf
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:lol Those threads are nauseating
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what made s5 bad (without spoilerz)
What made S5 NOT AS GOOD (not bad, dont believe the haters) was that they had announced the end of the series by this point so they had to work and try to fix some strings they had going in a certain period.
The finale is easily one of the best. It's like a slow jerkoff session.
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S4 > S1 > S3 > S2 >>> S5
what made s5 bad (without spoilerz)
- Character interactions are FUBAR'd (Jack and Locke share one whole scene the entire season)
- Time travel
- Amnesia
- Other lazy writing devices
The whole season is like LOST: the fan-fic
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Jack vs Locke is one of the absolute best things about Lost. Not just the one-on-one confrontations, but how their different ideologies play out on the island.
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Yeah, I know. Kiss that goodbye in S5.
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January 05, 2010
Q&A: 'Lost' producers discuss emotional final season
Get ready to return to the island one last time: The final season of ABC's "Lost" is going to be an emotionally intense journey that harks back to previous highlights of the series, with the ideological battle between Jack Shephard and John Locke taking center stage.
By the time most major network shows cross the finish line, they're limping in the ratings and creatively exhausted, wrung out by networks and producers trying to mine just a few more hours. With "Lost" producers having persuaded ABC to set 2010 as a series end date years ago, the hit drama is going into its final lap with level of fan anticipation rarely seen for the ending cycle of a broadcast show.
Below, executive producers Carlton Cuse and Damon Lindelof, give The Hollywood Reporter their first full-length interview focusing on the sixth season. What secrets will be revealed? How will fans react to the ending? And what are Lindelof and Cuse's plans for life after "Lost"?
Cuse and Lindelof assure that there's a satisfying cliffhanger-free conclusion planned. And even after the May finale, there's almost surely going to be more "Lost" to come.
THR: You obviously can't talk about the content of the ending. But how do you think fans will feel about it?
Lindelof: That's a very cagey way of asking it. It's tough to prognosticate. But the one area we're in agreement is there will be a short-term reaction to the ending and then a legacy reaction that comes six months, a year down the road, looking at the show as a whole. Carlton and I were trying yesterday to remember what the final season of "The Sopranos" even was about -- we couldn't remember much about the finale itself except Anthony Jr. was going to go into the Army and crashed his car and changed his mind. But we remember every frame of the diner scene. What people take away from our finale is going to be based purely on that two-hour episode, but our hope is they'll be able to connect that experience to the six years that preceded it.
THR: How would you describe this season in terms of its, say, tone? What is it like compared to past seasons?
Cuse: We feel tonally it's most similar to the first season of the show. We're employing a different narrative device, which we feel is creating some emotional and heartfelt stories, and we want the audience to have a chance in the final season to remember the entire history of the show. So we have actors coming back like Dominic [Monaghan] and Ian [Sommerhalder]. We're hoping to achieve a circularity of the entire journey so the ending is reminiscent of the beginning.
THR: Is there any one character's story line that you think particularly emotionally resonates this season?
Cuse: Jack and Locke have always been at the center of the show, that dilemma of faith vs. reason, and the conflict between those two characters has been there since the beginning. It's very exciting to bring that relationship to its conclusion, and we can't really be any less vague about that.
THR: In the past few years we've had "Sopranos," "The Shield," "The Wire" and "Battlestar Galactica" air final episodes. Any of them that you felt concluded really well?
Cuse: I personally don't feel any of those were messed up, they were all kind of appropriate for those stories. Shawn Ryan did a great job ending "The Shield."
Lindelof: It really boils down to: Is it satisfying? Have you given the audience an emotional ride that makes them feel that they're satisfied, that it's a good meal? Every one of those shows had a different criteria. The ending for "The Shield" was, asking whether Vic Mackey would get some form of comeuppance for all the things he's done over the series. That's a similar question that went into the "Sopranos" ending, which is why people who didn't like the cut to black were unsatisfied, because they felt, "I feel the resolution of this show has to be what happens to Tony Soprano, and you didn't answer that question." The "Battlestar" ending had 10 different things on its agenda other than character resolution ... you have to admire it for the sheer audacity for what it was trying to accomplish. That being said, the "Shield" ending was phenomenal, and almost every fan of the show agrees with that. Whereas the other shows -- and probably with the ending of "Lost" -- there's some debate about the ending. "Did I like it? Did I love it?"
THR: Have you boiled "Lost" down to a central question that the finale needs to resolve?
Lindelof: The only question that's ever mattered to us is what is going to happen to these people. What is the character resolution? That the audience feels like the characters had an arc -- a beginning, middle and end. And I'm satisfied with that. All the crazy island mythology stuff, we love it, but it's like terrorists attacking Jack Bauer -- it's stuff that happens in order to tell cool character stories.
THR: You mentioned a narrative device, I'm assuming it's not a flashback or flashforward?
Cuse: Musical numbers. If you love Bollywood movies, you will love this season.
Lindelof: The show never rests on its laurels. Not because we're trying to be artsy, but the show demands constant shifts to best tell the story. We've known what we were going to do for a couple years now, and there's been a tremendous amount of work setting up the premise so it would work. But we're still wondering, "Will it work? Will the audience understand? What's the reaction going to be like?"
THR: Since there is no footage being revealed in advance of the Feb. 2 season premiere, is there anything you can say to tease it?
Cuse: We ended with Juliet pounding on this atomic warhead. There's Jack's prediction that the bomb will reset events and the plane will never crash. There's the possibility that it doesn't work. We want the audience to be pondering what is the consequence of Juliet hitting that bomb. Our cliffhangers are designed to frame the question that we want audience thinking about.
THR: Now that you're this far along, do you have a favorite season?
Lindelof: The first season is probably my favorite season, you forget in hindsight all the pain that goes into doing the show.
Cuse: I'll say Season 5. We did something radical (by introducing time travel) and embraced the sci-fi roots of the show. We were concerned about doing this. But the fact people liked last season was enormously gratifying.
THR: Do you have any plans to pitch a new show, on ABC or elsewhere, for next season?
yay!
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S5 still had its moments, though
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edit: About that interview
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Return of Jack vs Locke seems to confirm that Locke will be resurrected in one way or another, thank God.
On the other hand, their answer to the question about wrapping up the mythology seemed like a roundabout way of saying, "we have no idea how to answer some of the more contrived happenings. WOOPS."
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Jack vs Locke is one of the absolute best things about Lost. Not just the one-on-one confrontations, but how their different ideologies play out on the island.
It's still there. Dont want to spoil it though.
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I bought the series on blu-ray recently and have been rewatching them in glorious high definition. I'm up to Season 2. Even in season one there are still tons of things that are unanswered, I'm doubting they are going to be able to answer a lot of things with just one season left.
I want to know what the Hurley Bird is
http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Hurley_bird (http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Hurley_bird)
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Forget terrorists and tea-party activists, President Obama is asking for trouble from the scariest group of people yet: Lost fans, who stand to see their much-anticipated final-season premiere pre-empted if the prez slates his State of the Union address for Feb. 2.
The White House is reportedly mulling either Jan. 26 or Feb. 2 for Obama's first State of the Union. If it picks the latter, that messes up ABC's long-announced plans to air a big three-hour Lost event that night to usher in the show's sixth and final season.
It's unclear what that would mean. Would we have to wait one more week for the glorious confusion of more Lost answers that turn into questions? Would the premiere go ahead as scheduled while ABC delays the otherwise live national speech?
We're guessing ABC had to know this was a potential problem, since the president always gives his State of the Union around this time. We're hoping they have a Plan B.
In the meantime, fans have gone viral and seem as batty as a raging polar bear Lost on a twitchy time-traveling island. They've started a save-our-Lost-premiere Twitter campaign to stop Obama. Under the hashtag #NoStateofUnionFeb2, the Losties are threatening, begging and trying to reason with Obama.
Brackmann wrote: "Please Obama, don't crash Lost premiere. We don't need to hear the economy is bad, it's old news, save yourself a speech." zenkitteh added: "Come on Obama!! You are a smart man, you must be a fan of Lost." And WillJRHopkins added: "I'm not an american but if i have to wait for lost any longer i might throw up."
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I would teabag all over Obama's face if that happened. >:(
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[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6f-wrmcL-c[/youtube]
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:lol
:american
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If he's wrong, Obama should be impeached.
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LOST, the true american dream :usa
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season 5 is terrible.
lots of shitty stuff happens, but these two were the worst, iirc:
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locke was dead all along &
jacob vs. other old dude who is now locke
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IF LOST GETS DELAYED BECAUSE OF OBAMA I'M REGISTERING MYSELF GOP
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season 5 was awesome and was porn for people that liked season 2
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im kind of wondering whether they really do make stuff up as they go along now though "jacob was in the foot the whole time LOL"
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I liked season 2 and season 5. Season 5 was great. Fuck Solo. :piss
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Damon Lindelof on Twitter:
@DamonLindelof: OBAMA BACKED DOWN!!!! Groundhog Day is OURS!!!!!!! (God Bless America)
He added:
Okay. So Obama didn't technically "back down." He leveraged Carlton and I to do something on the show. Two words. MORE FROGURT.
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Finished re-watching S3 last night. The last third of that season is amazing, especially the final few episodes.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
But the whole Jacob thing - which I had forgotten about - was kinda meh. Hoping for more info on that in S5
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you havent seen it yet?
DO NOT READ MY POST!
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How long as PD been talking about S5? What a moron.
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As a wannabe computer scientist it upsets me that they'd center the show on an "ideological battle of faith versus reason", and have a cool character to represent Faith and a lame character to represent Reason :'(
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:lol
If it makes you feel any better, Jack becomes Jack Bauer in s5 :lol
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How long as PD been talking about S5? What a moron.
I'm surprised I've gone so far without stumbling on spoilers :lol
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What season are you up to, Maurice?
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[youtube=560,345]MxHO_24ly50[/youtube]
:rock
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i think the whole faith versus reason argument is over once you introduce
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eternal gods, and spirits that can take the form of dead men
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but the gods are having arguments over faith and reason too!
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Ahh...Lost. I welcome thee.
I gotta say though that I was pretty disappointed with S5, not because of the time travel thing (I like that) but because when we finally got to look at the Dharma operation they were nothing but a collection of gun toting idiots. Seriously, these people seemed like they were pulled straight out of an epsiode of the A-Team where they were the guards of some weird Columbian drug operation in the middle of Missouri. I don't know, it killed a lot of the mystery surrounding much of what I thought could've been....well, something better than that.
Oh and not to mention the bow and arrow shootin', Latin speakin', Others who still for some reason go by that fucking name even though it was just a nickname the survivors came up with to designate that group. I mean do they really call themselves the fucking Others? Why not the Wildcats? Or the Jets? Or the Bay City Destroyers? For fucks sake, don't let these dorks name your group the Others when you've been living on that island for hundreds of years.
*sigh*
Still, I'll be there to the end. I've gone this far, I might as well see how this thing ends.
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What season are you up to, Maurice?
Haven't seen S5; re-watching S4 now, should be done pretty quickly since it's a short season.
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You haven't seen any of Season 5? Not even the part where Hurley dies?
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Not even the part where Hurley dies?
That shit was amazing. I didn't expect the smoke monster to be part of the plane they were traveling in either.
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Not even the part where Hurley dies?
That shit was amazing. I didn't expect the smoke monster to be part of the plane they were traveling in either.
It was hilarious though when they were having Hurley's funeral and then the Hurley bird swooped in and took a crap on Sawyer.
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I liked season 2 and season 5. Season 5 was great. Fuck Solo. :piss
S5 am shit confirmed.
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Ehh I enjoyed season 5 more than 4. Although I have watched the show in quick bursts where I would watch half a season in 2 days and sometimes even in 1 day :lol
It really makes you lose track of what happened in which episode/season.
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Not even the part where Hurley dies?
That shit was amazing. I didn't expect the smoke monster to be part of the plane they were traveling in either.
It was hilarious though when they were having Hurley's funeral and then the Hurley bird swooped in and took a crap on Sawyer.
It truly is the show of shows.
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Just want to say I'm guessing spoilers occurred after my last post, but they landed without hitting me :bow
thanks for tipping me off Willco!
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You guys need to post believable spoilers, like Illana being Jacob's daughter
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the only thing i didn't care for in season 5 is when sayid accidentally killed rose, it was too much like shannon's death
i never liked rose or bernard that much but that was pretty contrived
i think they'll do something big with bernard next season, the look he gave sayid was murderous, i think he might flip to the other side
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Just want to say I'm guessing spoilers occurred after my last post, but they landed without hitting me :bow
thanks for tipping me off Willco!
^Has actually read all spoilers and tries to cover up being pissed off.
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JACOB DIES
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The numbers are actually the survivors
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LOST DIES
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Zombie Nikki and Zombie Paulo were the best parts of season 5.
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I'm rewatching Season 2 and still pissed about not knowing why Libby was in the insane asylum with Hurley. Then they went and killed him off in season 5, so now we're never going to find out why.
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I've been reading Lostpedia all day today at work, I'm so pumped right now.
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JACOB DIES
JACOB LOST
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JACOB IS LOST
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:O
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I was watching season 3 and HOLY SHIT MAC IS AN OTHER
(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/lostpedia/images/thumb/a/ab/Aldo.jpg/250px-Aldo.jpg)
http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Aldo
mind blown
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Your day is made.
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No, it sucks.
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I still can't believe that this simple, but awesome island show I'm watching right now in Season 1 is eventually going to morph into some convoluted scifi with time travel and alternate realities and Jack and Locke fighting each other. It sounds almost as bad as the direction Battlestar Galactica went during its last two seasons. And yet you guys are telling me that the show stays good in spite of all the bullshit. It's got me pretty intrigued.
The island was a weird and unexplainable place even in the pilot episodes where trees disappeared and a polar bear came out of the jungle. The show has good development and leaves you satisfied with how things evolve and the unfolding of everything.
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Any mystery, especially a BIZARRE mystery is bound to disappoint once they explain the rational behind it.
Too fucking bad if once they explained how distant eerie things were elaborated on not to your satisfaction. Oh wait, maybe the show would've been better if the anything is possible just because, though I'm sure the lack of explanation would never have left a sour taste in your mouth and you would never bitch about that too.
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I still can't believe that this simple, but awesome island show I'm watching right now in Season 1 is eventually going to morph into some convoluted scifi with time travel and alternate realities and Jack and Locke fighting each other. It sounds almost as bad as the direction Battlestar Galactica went during its last two seasons. And yet you guys are telling me that the show stays good in spite of all the bullshit. It's got me pretty intrigued.
The island was a weird and unexplainable place even in the pilot episodes where trees disappeared and a polar bear came out of the jungle.
And don't forget the MONSTER that pulled the captain out of the front of the plane even though it was up in a tree.
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I was watching season 3 and HOLY SHIT MAC IS AN OTHER
(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/lostpedia/images/thumb/a/ab/Aldo.jpg/250px-Aldo.jpg)
http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Aldo
mind blown
:lol
never noticed that.
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The first seven minutes of the pilot episode really is awesome. How awesome? So awesome.
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I'm rewatching Season 2 and still pissed about not knowing why Libby was in the insane asylum with Hurley. Then they went and killed him off in season 5, so now we're never going to find out why.
Libby is confirmed to be back in Season 6. :rock Also Michael, but who cares?
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I still can't believe that this simple, but awesome island show I'm watching right now in Season 1 is eventually going to morph into some convoluted scifi with time travel and alternate realities and Jack and Locke fighting each other. It sounds almost as bad as the direction Battlestar Galactica went during its last two seasons. And yet you guys are telling me that the show stays good in spite of all the bullshit. It's got me pretty intrigued.
Lost is is a good show. But it would have been a GREAT show if hadn't it strayed on the "bunch of people trying to survive on a deserted island" thing instead of playing up the stupid sci fi crap. Because honestly, the sci-fi stuff is my least favorite part of Lost. What I love are the characters and their different points of view.
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I prefer the mythos more
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I prefer the mythos more
Demi's right. The mythos rocks, therefore season 5 was better specifically BECAUSE the scifi aspect was emphasized more.
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The mythos and sci-fi are distinguished mentally-challenged.
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Lost is is a good show. But it would have been a GREAT show if hadn't it strayed on the "bunch of people trying to survive on a deserted island" thing instead of playing up the stupid sci fi crap. Because honestly, the sci-fi stuff is my least favorite part of Lost. What I love are the characters and their different points of view.
The show isn't even about the sci-fi. That's a minor plot element that pulls it all together. The show is about the relationships between the characters, and that's why season 5 wasn't as good as the others - because the characters were split too much.
Pretty much this. S5 was pretty much all plot progression and little in the way of great character interaction.
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The mythos and sci-fi are distinguished mentally-challenged.
WELL I'M CONVINCED
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The mythos and sci-fi are distinguished mentally-challenged.
I've slept on it. I loved last night's Lost. Amazing finale.
Here's my theory:
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(http://i39.tinypic.com/dnk50g.jpg)
Compare those to:
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This statue is clearly Egyptian inspired, or Egyptian in general.
Wikipedia says this:
Sobek (also called Sebek, Sochet, Sobk, Sobki, Soknopais, and in Greek, Suchos) was the deification of crocodiles, as crocodiles were deeply feared in the nation so dependent on the Nile River. Egyptians who worked or travelled on the Nile hoped that if they prayed to Sobek, the crocodile god, he would protect them from being attacked by crocodiles.[1] The god Sobek, which was depicted as a crocodile or a man with the head of a crocodile was a powerful and frightening deity; in some Egyptian creation myths, it was Sobek who first came out of the waters of chaos to create the world.[1] As a creator god, he was occasionally linked with the sun god Ra.[1]
This war is clearly a war between gods. I think that the statue being destroyed symbolizes the death of the god of creation on the island, hence why no babies are no longer born on it in the current timeline. Maybe the guy who fights with Jacob is the deity god of creation? The guy can create another Locke, after all.
The guy that Jacob was talking to at the beginning of the episode seems to be another god of the island alongside Jacob. The two clearly do not see eye to eye either: "someday I will kill you. I will find a loophole."
We know very little about that other deity but we do know is that he has the ability to bring them back to life or at the very least, make use of their body. I think that the deity took control of Locke's body and made a copy, one he himself can transplant into. That way he can carry out his goal of killing Jacob. After all, this has happened before. Remember the guy from Rosseau's group that was revitalized after he clearly died? That's the other deity at work. Maybe this is why Hurley sees visions of the dead? Jacob clearly says Hugo's "not crazy" when they meet face to face.
I don't fucking know, I'm goin' in circles here.
Another theory of mine:
Anyone Jacob touches gains the power of immortality while on the island. Maybe this is why Richard is ageless through numerous decades and timelines. All of them were touched by Jacob, except Juliette, Miles, , Desmond, ;etc it seems.
Of course, my theory could be wrong considering Locke's currently laying in a coffin dead.
I think he used the guise of Jack's father to persuade Locke that he was going to die. He used Locke's faith for the island so that he would be killed in some way. Jacob probably wouldn't let Locke be killed on the island; he's special. So he had Locke tell Jack about his father, and then set the chords in motion so that Jack would bring all the others back with him to the island. This way, ol' smokey can use the body of Locke as a host to kill Jacob. Because Locke is special.
About Juliette: It could be inferred that the reason they showed it was specifically for that scene with Sawyer but, that's not very Lost-like and that'd be dumb. I think it's the writers' way of showing us that the others were blessed by Jacob while Juliette wasn't. He did not appear in Juliette's flashback nor was she handed an object like the others were.
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I still love dissecting the various elements of the plot, that's half the fun of Lost.
But I'd greatly prefer a more down to Earth, more realistic plot than the puzzling mess that is current Lost.
This is why season 1 is the best season.
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Wow thats a big post for someone who hates mythos
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I love mythology. I can't help it.
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You're such a complicated person, Himuro.
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Lost Mythos > Egyptian Mythology
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Lost Mythos > Egyptian Mythology
:lol
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i dont know about you guys but i just watch it for the stubble :drool
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Is ONE season enough to asnwer all the questions? Definitely not.
I'm sure this last season won't fully deliver. We'll see. The last season was weird as hell. Lost has changed so much. It started out pretty interesting, but it's just getting too weird now.
But I'll definitely be getting the Lost Complete BOX Blu-Ray when it hits the shops.
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The best thing has been my friends seeing me watching a later episode and then being like "WHAT THE FUCK! I THOUGHT IT WAS AN ISLAND SHOW!" When people ask if they'll like it, I always tell them "You know how you can watch the first season of a show and then go to like the 4th and usually pick it up after a few episodes? It's usually just character changes and whatnot? Well with Lost, if you were to do that, you would be so damn confused it's not funny."
The first episode I ever watched was the Season 2 finale, then I watches Season 1 the next day and if it had not been for the same actors, I would have thought I was watching the wrong show.
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The best thing has been my friends seeing me watching a later episode and then being like "WHAT THE FUCK! I THOUGHT IT WAS AN ISLAND SHOW!" When people ask if they'll like it, I always tell them "You know how you can watch the first season of a show and then go like the 4th and usually pick it up after a few episodes? It's usually just character changes and whatnot? Well with Lost, if you were to do that, you wouldn't be so damn confused it's not funny."
The first episode I ever watched was the Season 2 finale, then I watches Season 1 the next day and if it had not been for the same actors, I would have thought I was watching the wrong show.
So true.
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I read a bit of the Lostpedia, particularly stuff about the Oceanic Six and the Dharma Initiative. How on earth is this not considered jumping the shark? It sounds absolutely distinguished mentally-challenged.
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How on earth is this not considered jumping the shark?
Because it's awesome.
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Jumping the shark is a colloquialism used by TV critics and fans to denote the point in a television program's history where the plot spins off into absurd story lines or unlikely characterizations. These changes are sometimes the result of efforts to revive interest in a show whose viewership has begun to decline. In other cases, the changes have other causes (e.g. an actor quitting, different writers being hired) and the diminished interest is the result.
Nope, dont think its sharking the jump. Interest SKYROCKETING for finale
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I can't see how the absurd storyline part isn't true though. Six people get off the island, but then they realize they have to go back? WTF is that shit?
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I can't see how the absurd storyline part isn't true though. Six people get off the island, but then they realize they have to go back? WTF is that shit?
(http://thighswideshut.org/images/tv/lost/jack_beard_o.jpg)
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Lost jumped the shark awhile ago.
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I'm watching it though. Almost done with Season 1. S2 is torrenting right now. It takes a fucking long time to go through a season of 23 episodes that are 45 minutes each.
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I can't see how the absurd storyline part isn't true though. Six people get off the island, but then they realize they have to go back? WTF is that shit?
Destiny and all that junk has been a central theme of the show pretty much since the beginning. There's better plot threads in the show to pick at than that one.
So pumped for S6 though :hyper :hyper :hyper
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Lost jumped the awesome shark maybe, which is where a show introduces absurd storylines that make the show TOTALLY FUCK AWESOME.
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Almost wrapped up Season 1. It's pretty awesome. However, I'm supposed to believe that out of 48 survivors, only about a dozen of them would actually do anything interesting or make any attempt to have their voices heard? I know that a cast of 48 wouldn't work, but it seems unrealistic for the other 30+ survivors to never do anything except stand around in throw-away scenes.
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By the creators own admission the show has jumped the shark multiple times :lol
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Almost wrapped up Season 1. It's pretty awesome. However, I'm supposed to believe that out of 48 survivors, only about a dozen of them would actually do anything interesting or make any attempt to have their voices heard? I know that a cast of 48 wouldn't work, but it seems unrealistic for the other 30+ survivors to never do anything except stand around in throw-away scenes.
Wait until season 3 when you meet Nikki and Paulo
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yes
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Power struggles permeate the entire show.
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I love how in the second half of Season 1, Jack starts to assert his authority more, but Locke, Sawyer and occasionally Sayid are perfectly willing to tell him to fuck off. Do we see more of this kind of thing in later seasons?
I like how there are so many strong personalities on the island. There are at least five characters who could conceivably lead the group. I hope that there are more power struggles as the show goes on.
Is this your first time seeing it? Why would you ruin the fucking show by reading about the O6? Ugh.
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LOSTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
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Getting into Season 2 now. Walt's mother is probably the biggest cunt in any tv show ever. The fact that she even dares to look Michael in the fact after what she did to him is ludicrous. I'm almost glad she died.
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Two more weeks as of this post
ALMOST THERE GUYS
Week 1: Mass Erect 2, No More Heroes 2
Week 2: LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOST
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I'm going to make it through the next four seasons before season 6 starts.
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So what will happen if the code isn't entered every 108 minutes in the research station?
I don't care if someone spoils it for me; on the contrary, please do.
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Uh.. no, because thats Season 2 in a nutshell. Why are you watching this show?
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I'm just trying to catch up in time for Season 6. But if the answer is revealed at the end of this season, I guess I can wait.
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spoiler (click to show/hide)
if the numbers are not entered, the core of the station goes critical. But its not a nuclear reaction. Think giant electromagnet that causes the station to implode on itself. Later on you will learn that desmond caused the plane to crash because he entered the numbers late. The magnetic force caused oceanic 815 to crash on the island, but the station was saved until later when locke goes through with not entering the numbers much to the dismay of the other survivors
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A third of the way into Season 2.
So far Locke >>>>>> Jack.
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A third of the way into Season 2.
So far Locke >>>>>> Jack.
Uh
it remains that way.
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So what will happen if the code isn't entered every 108 minutes in the research station?
I don't care if someone spoils it for me; on the contrary, please do.
add "self-control" to your tag
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After getting into Lost Season 2, I have to say that I FINALLY understand the Michelle Rodriguez hate.
Up to this point, I'd only really seen her in Resident Evil and that surfer chick movie. Maybe one or two other things, but I can't remember. So I didn't understand why so many people on the internet seemed to vehemently hate her.
Now I understand. It's impossible to watch Lost Season 2 and not despise Michelle Rodriguez. I don't think anyone could do it.
I kinda hope the Others flay her dumb ass.
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It's not impossible because I want to fuck her.
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It would be a total hatefuck though.
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as long as she pulls my hair, slaps my ass and calls me a slut then i'm okay.
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[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhbZOX3Q5zs[/youtube]
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God, I hate characters who are like "I'm going to ominously hint at something that could be critical to your survival, but I'm not going to explain it to you."
Not only is it annoying, it's fucking stupid. If I was stuck on an island and ran into someone who was in the dark about certain things, if I gave the slightest fuck about that guy I would tell him everything I knew. You know, so that he could have a better chance to survive? I wouldn't just make mysterious, ominous statements and let him put the pieces together himself. But that's the new characters in Season 2 in a nutshell.
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Who are you talking about? Henry Gale?
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Everyone.
People seem to have a huge problem sharing information on this island. I understand that the writers do it in order to keep the audience guessing, but it's still illogical (IMO).
Still an awesome show.
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A third of the way into Season 2.
So far Locke >>>>>> Jack.
Uh
it remains that way.
Its ALWAYS been that way. Jack is he biggest douchebag on the show.
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I like Jack BECAUSE he is such a douchebag to everyone.
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God, Ana Lucia is the worst character ever.
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the worst character that you wouldn't think twice about sticking your dick in, maybe.
Locke was a stupid cunt for like the first two seasons. THERE! I SAID IT! He was such a self righteous cockbag. Jack was the shit. When my friends and I watched, we had a saying "Jack is Jesus" because he was so damn perfect.
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Ana Lucia killed the hottest character on the show. Fucking bitch.
I agree about Jack. If I were gay, I'd be totally hot for him.
Edit: please tell me Sayid gets to kill Ana Lucia. Please. That's the only logical way for her character to end. I would make a gif of him killing her and replay it over and over before going to bed each night.
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Sayid is a bitch the entire season, hell the entire show
Desmond > Sayid
Bernard > Sayid
Jin > Sayid
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jack ran his suckhole for four seasons acting like scully from x-files ("there's a perfectly reasonable explanation for all of this!") only to end up totally being locke's little bitch in season 5
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Except Locke got the short end of the stick, who's :smug now
Jack :bow
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Ana Lucia killed the hottest character on the show. Fucking bitch.
I agree about Jack. If I were gay, I'd be totally hot for him.
Edit: please tell me Sayid gets to kill Ana Lucia. Please. That's the only logical way for her character to end. I would make a gif of him killing her and replay it over and over before going to bed each night.
Uh, Claire is the hottest character on the show.
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God, Ana Lucia is the worst character ever.
i wouldnt worry about her if i were you ;)
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kate is so much worse than an lucia it's ridiculous. the only character worse than kate is claire.
:yuck females on lost with the exception of juliet
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i wouldnt worry about her if i were you ;)
because she gets shot ;)
by Michael ;)
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Juliet has her own set of issues. Penny is the real doll.
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Penny is ugly and old
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:bow (http://l.yimg.com/l/tv/us/img/site/62/07/0000046207_20080130133654.jpg) :bow2
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MAH BABYYY
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Penny is ugly and old
So is your wife. She's homely.
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every time i see penny i picture her grotesque frankentitties and am immediately repulsed
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Penny is ugly and old
So is your wife. She's homely.
SO IS YOUR FACE
every time i see penny i picture her grotesque frankentitties and am immediately repulsed
This
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I might hate Jack less of Matt Fox werent such a terrible actor.
JACKFACE
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A black person and a mexican doesnt like a homely white girl. Clearly there are no stereotypes at work
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You are the worst Lost watcher ever. Just watch Smallville instead or something.
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Tell him boo. Go for the eyes.
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You are the worst Lost watcher ever.
i was going to say this the other day :lol
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Shannon is (was) way hotter than Claire, guys. SMH.
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Shannon is (was) way hotter than Claire, guys. SMH.
Shannon looks and acts like every Californian blonde ever, so I guess this opinion isn't that perturbing
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Shannon was into incest you sick fuck she is void and null from any hotness contests period.
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They weren't related by blood. And neither of them wore a scarf.
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It's close enough. Null and void
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incest is pretty fucking hot.
I give shannon points for that.
And yes, GS. WTF is wrong with you? Sayid killing Ana Lucia? Do you really want THAT much predictability? You weren't floored when Michael shot Libby and Ana Lucia? That was seriously one of the most jaw dropping moments in the entire series. That is also probably my second favorite episode. Especially after all the happy shit with Libby and Hurley and acting like they'll have a bright future and then BAM! Michael kills both those bitches. Sounds like you want a predictable, cliche story.
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Sayid has his moment in Season 4 finale. Got damn.
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Charlie just gets shit on by every other male character on the island. :lol
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Sounds like you want a predictable, cliche story.
:avatar
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That was a real zinger, Overbyte.
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^great zinger there, green shin00bi
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^great zinger there, green shin00bi
:lol :lol :lol
Nice one, Powdershave.
So do Jack and Locke ever have any physical confrontations? Any 1x1 battles?
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They confront but no physical fights
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So do Jack and Locke ever have any physical confrontations? Any 1x1 battles?
how can you be so impatient? just watch the freaking show! :lol
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The new season needs to start so he can stop asking these dumb questions so I have an excuse not to answer them
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This show does a great job of making you hate the villains.
I'm just getting into Season 3, and already I just want to watch all of The Others get tortured to death.
Edit: and Juliette should get fucking eaten by a polar bear.
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ben's shtick gets really old after a while.
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Juliette is such a fucking cunt. Although the one I want to see die the most is Dea.
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who?
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Typo. Meant Bea.
Real Talk: why do all the black characters on this show suck?
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... eko's one of the best characters.
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... eko's one of the best characters.
So is Matthew Abaddon.
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Juliette is such a fucking cunt. Although the one I want to see die the most is Dea.
Typo. Meant Bea.
Real Talk: why do all the black characters on this show suck?
worst lost watcher ever. eko and juiliet are the best male and female characters, respectively.
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See what love of Avatar does to someone? It turns them into a shit Lost watcher.
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goddamn, you guys are ruthless.
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I was shocked when Michael killed Ana Lucia and Libby.
It really gave me mixed emotions.
On one hand I was like,"NO NO MICHAEL, How could you kill Libby?! What about Hurley?!" and on the other,"YES YES YES, MICHELLE RODRIGUEZ IS DEAD!"
I didn't know how to feel, but it was pretty awesome.
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Eko was pretty worthless, I dont get the praise either. Oooh a big black man who speaks slowly
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Eko's storyline was okay, but could have been lifted out of a dozen crime/redemption shows, and it ultimately went nowhere
stuff like that, and ben (who was originally only supposed to be around for three episodes, yet all of a sudden became integral to the "mythos") make me think they've never really had any idea where they were going with all this, so i don't have much hope they'll deliver even a mildly satisfying ending
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Well, Eko at least was going to play a major role in the show but the actor decided to quit.
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Eko's storyline was okay, but could have been lifted out of a dozen crime/redemption shows, and it ultimately went nowhere
stuff like that, and ben (who was originally only supposed to be around for three episodes, yet all of a sudden became integral to the "mythos") make me think they've never really had any idea where they were going with all this, so i don't have much hope they'll deliver even a mildly satisfying ending
eko was supposed to be on until series finale but Akinnuoye-Agbaje asked them to kill his character because he hated living in hawaii. some concessions have to be made when creating a serial television series, especially one as one long as lost, but i agree--i do think they are pulling plot-lines out of their ass.
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I think they have a blurry idea of what's going to happen beginning middle and end but they fill in the details on a season by season basis.
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stuff like that, and ben (who was originally only supposed to be around for three episodes, yet all of a sudden became integral to the "mythos") make me think they've never really had any idea where they were going with all this, so i don't have much hope they'll deliver even a mildly satisfying ending
Ben/"Others leader" was always planned from the start, the only thing they were not sure of is if Michael Emmerson as "Henry Gale" was going to be that character or a separate character to be introduced a few episodes later
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I just hope this show ends with a "larger than life" philosophical explanation to everything.
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I'm worried they'll wrap up a bunch of the character plotlines without ever giving any real clarity or closure on the island and it's history/abilities.
And then do a slow retreat camera shot of the island with mystical music playing.
That will be the day that I snap and throw a shoe at my TV.
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Just gonna post and not read thread.
HOLY FUCKING SHIT @ "He's Our You"
ffffu, it's 5am and I have school tomorrow, fuck I want to see the next episode :'(
Solo annihilated. There have been some hiccups this season but ultimately it's been pretty solid. The explanation of the island (by Hawkins) was rather meh, I rolled my eyes in fact. But the actual time travel has been tolerable, and has given lots of insight into shit. Solo said it's like fanfic, and I guess that's true. But eh, that's to be expected given the angle they're playing (time travel). I'm certainly more satisfied with this approach than that of the previous seasons (ie introduce a vague concept or object, sort of explain it 10-15 episodes later).
I miss the Jack/Locke interactions, true, but there's enough tension/drama for me to forgive the absence.
I can't complain about my biggest problem (relating to time travel) until I see how its handled by the end, but in the meantime some of my gripes
-some bad acting. Especially Faraday during Charlotte's death. Also Ben has lost whatever edge he once had, and is kinda becoming a hammy caricature
-island explanation. That scene was just...eh.
-Charlotte's revelation really seemed like the writers filling in plot holes. In S4 Miles says she has been to the island before, but she never really gives that impression. If she truly remembered Faraday from her past it would have come up. weak
-Locke's journey off the island seemed rushed.
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Getting into Season 3 now. I really hope that the Survivors eventually start owning The Others.
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Id kove to one day sample the jesus juice people are drinking that makes S5 look anything more than awful after how incredibly well constructed S4 was.
One day.....
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Sawyer is quickly becoming my favorite character on the whole damn show.
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S5 > Avatar
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Watching this show has got me thinking about what would happen if this whole forum crashed on an island like the one in the show.
We already have our own Sayid (Jinfash), Hurley (Willco) and Boone (BrandNew). The only real problem would be the lack of female characters, but everyone on this forum is gay anyway, so even that wouldn't be such a big deal.
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you could be Frogurt!
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you could be Frogurt!
Haven't gotten that far yet. I have some similarities to Charlie, since I play guitar and used to be a druggie, but he's kind of a wimp who gets punked around by all the other guys on the island, so the similarities end there.
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About charlie... yeah
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demi would be Mr. Friendly!
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demi would be Mr. Friendly!
Will says:
Unlike Hurley, I actually lose weight - not gain weight!
Demi says:
i would be hurley
so i could jerk off on myself
no no
i want to be Tom
cause he has sex with a mexican homo in new york
Will says:
haha
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Id kove to one day sample the jesus juice people are drinking that makes S5 look anything more than awful after how incredibly well constructed S4 was.
One day.....
It's pretty well constructed (so far). As I said, I won't discuss my biggest problem until the end, so I can see how they deal with it. But the few complaints I shared aren't game changers, especially when compared to the awesome moments of this season so far.
One of the frustrating things about the previous seasons was always the lack of explanations into the island and its mechanics. The insight given this season is pretty awesome.
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S5 > Avatar
Avatar > Nick Frost
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:o :o :o :o
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leper
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oh yes he did
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Id kove to one day sample the jesus juice people are drinking that makes S5 look anything more than awful after how incredibly well constructed S4 was.
One day.....
Dude, hatin' is just your opinion, but don't take your opinion at objective fact.
If you think that S5 might suck just because it shifted tone and finally got around to delving into the mythos that served as background mood setter until then, well cool brah...how would you have felt if they never bothered to explain these things?
P.S.: :bow :hump Matthew Fox :hump :bow2
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Id kove to one day sample the jesus juice people are drinking that makes S5 look anything more than awful after how incredibly well constructed S4 was.
One day.....
If you think that S5 might suck just it shifted tone and finally got around to delving into the mythos that served as background mood setter until then, well cool brah...how would you have felt if they never bothered to explain these things?
You said it better than me :bow
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how would you have felt if they never bothered to explain these things?
Based on what they cooked up, I would have been quite fine not knowing.
THE LOSTIES CAUSED THE LOSTIES TO CRASH OMG
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So are you saying you feel betrayed by how well they established a sense of mystery in the early episodes and now feel betrayed at the natural result of those mysteries? Welcome to everything ever.
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how would you have felt if they never bothered to explain these things?
Based on what they cooked up, I would have been quite fine not knowing.
THE LOSTIES CAUSED THE LOSTIES TO CRASH OMG
I said this to the wife last night. She loves the show, but she doesn't get too much into the mythos. She loves the nuttiness of it all and the character development/interaction, plus the OMG moments (like John originally being in a wheelchair and shit).
She asked me how mad I'll be if the ending sucks. I told her I expect the ending to suck. From day one it's always been about the ride. I can't imagine they will ever satisfy me enough to say "THAT ENDING WAS FUCKING AWESOME". And then I told her that I disliked Season 5 because the answers to the questions were just not satisfying to me. They were not as cool as I imagined. I would have been happier if they just kept asking more and more questions about the mythos while furthering along a more developed character story and kept the mythos as the background. Answer some questions about the island, but leave most unanswered. If they really try to tie everything together for the fans, that will be the downfall of the show IMO. Leave the mystery. That's the lure of the island. Just let us experience it. We don't have to know everything.
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I wasn't really soured on S5 until after LaFleur.
So are you saying you feel betrayed by how well they established a sense of mystery in the early episodes and now feel betrayed at the natural result of those mysteries? Welcome to everything ever.
Just kinda sucks that the show was so heavily predicated on DESTINY and FATE and now it appears the big picture was as convoluted to the writers as it was to the viewers. Yes, I was stupid and gullible enough to assume that a show following a single arc for six seasons would manage to flesh out some of the shit satisfactorily.
Hopefully I'll be eating my words at the end of this season
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So are you saying you feel betrayed by how well they established a sense of mystery in the early episodes and now feel betrayed at the natural result of those mysteries? Welcome to everything ever.
No, I feel disappointed with the ultimate resolution of those mysteries. Theres a million different paths they could have gone down, and they chose this freakin' one.
Basically, as Rob Thomas said, the climax (S5's answers) paled in comparison the foreplay (S1-S3's questions). We waited 5 years to find out that the Losties crashed because they made themselves crash?
Not to mention the complete tonal/genre shift that this show has undergone over the years. From a character centric survival tale on an island with "supernatural" events occuring in S1 to a plot progressing, hard sci-fi time travelling jaunt in S5. For better or worse, its barely the same show now that it once was. I watch something like "Walkabout" and I miss that Lost.
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We waited 5 years to find out that the Losties crashed because they made themselves crash?
They didn't crash because Desmond didn't enter the numbers that one time?
it's complicated
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We waited 5 years to find out that the Losties crashed because they made themselves crash?
They didn't crash because Desmond didn't enter the numbers that one time?
There is a reason the button needs to be pushed...
And there is an incident that creates the source of the anomoly that requires said button-pushing...
And said incident is caused by someone...
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Solo, I rewatched Walkabout last night and I thought the same thing. Such an incredible episode. It made me really think about how much magic was gone for me during season 5. I hope season 6 fixes it.
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Its my favorite episode of the series :heartbeat Terry O'Quinn was robbed of an Emmy for it, too. Instead, he got a mulligan two years later for an inferior performance in an inferior episode.
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Someone needs to flesh that all out? Who is Ben? Locke? Artz?
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"Whatever Happened, Happened" :bow
The Kate flashbacks were meh, but overall it was a good episode.
The time travel angle is ridiculous when explained. Having Hurley question the "theory" is obviously the writers talking directly to viewers, something they've done before. Unless there's a massive wave of amnesia or something, it doesn't make sense. Alternative realities would make more sense.
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Solo can be Artz so he can be a one post wonder and we can be gone with him forever. Bye loser
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"Dead is Dead" :bow
This season is great so far, Solo further annihilated. Come on dude, insight into most of the mysteries that were once vague and unanswered? In this episode, some stuff on the smoke monster. :o
Ben remains a weak spot though. Very hammy, and all his emotional scenes seem weak. Which is odd considering he had one of the best emotional scenes in the series, last season (getting his daughter killed).
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Told you PD. Solo is just an armchair critic. Enjoy the ride 8)
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You mean the season finale where Ben suddenly regresses from the cold, baddest motherfucker on the planet to a whiney "what about me?" emotional little bitch? That one?
Solo can be Artz so he can be a one post wonder and we can be gone with him forever. Bye loser
:lol :lol
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watching Some Like It Hoth. jesus chrst this Miles flashback is atrocious so far
edit: i bet his dad is the asian dude from the Dharma videos
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eh, worst one recently. Interesting take on the typical daddy issues/Lost dynamic, and Hurley's Star Wars analogies were amazing. But overall it was kinda boring. I've really liked how they've set up this Dharma plot, I like the "new" Sawyer etc but I really want to see the end game now.
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What season are you on, PD?
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Now that I'm deep into Season 3, I have to admit that I got owned. Reading plot bulletpoints and whatnot had me really skeptical, but actually watching it for myself, I'm pretty impressed.
My only complaint about the show is that some of the episodes make you watch 20 minutes of flashbacks for characters you don't really care about. Aside from that, this show is pretty damn awesome.
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The second half of S3 through the end of S4 is the best run of the show. Enjoy, GS.
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What season are you on, PD?
S5. Don't read spoilers dude!
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The Variable was alright. The dude who plays Faraday is such a bad actor during emotional scenes lol
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The (alleged) death was so telegraphed it became anti-climatic
The time travel thing is confusing as fuck. Faraday said he could change the future in a domino effect type way. Him dying is apparently apart of ensuring the incident occurs. Them being in 1977 is their present. So, when they got on the plane in S1, all this 1977 stuff was...in their future right, hence they don't remember shit. But that makes no sense because their future would be directly tied to some character's pasts. Like, Kate and Sawyer saving Ben. If Kate and Sawyer had died in S1, they would not have been there to save little Ben in the past, thus he wouldn't grow up to kill the Dharma members and help bring the Oceanic 6 (well, 5) back to the island. Ah fuck it
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the actor who plays Faraday is awful, just awful. He has a good "look" for the part and not much else.
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Yeah, the guy who plays Faraday sucks dick in every kind of scene.
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poor choice of words there Solo, that's a positive trait :smug
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Does Hurley get fatter as the series goes on? I swear he has an extra chin in Season 3.
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Oh shit about to watch the last episode :bow
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The Jacob thing seems kinda ridiculous so far. So this guy is behind everything despite us never seeing him before.
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Yeah, its a rather clumsy shoehorn. Oh look, theres Jacob when Locke fell, despite us not seeing him in S3!
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well, that was so much of a cliffhanger I don't know what to feel :o
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Holy shit @ Shadow Locke. THAT was the big cliff hanger/shock for me.
Soo, these shadow of the statue folks...are they on an entirely different "team"? ffuck
I kinda expected Ben to kill Shadow Locke, or Jacob and Shadow Locke.
I thought the end would address why Ben and the others don't recognize Jack/Sayid/Kate/Sawyer etc in the future. In S4, Richard goes to see Locke, and I guess that season does a good job of insinuating the others were familiar with him.
S5 is pretty damn good, I certainly don't get the hate. There are weak points and time travel is confusing/dumb BUT it's still compelling. Not as focused as S4, but I definitely enjoyed it.
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thought the end would address why Ben and the others don't recognize Jack/Sayid/Kate/Sawyer etc in the future
They already did this with the lazily written copout "he wont remember any of this" from Richard.
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gj on not being a crusty cynic PD :bow
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WE'RE ALMOST THERE GUYS ONE MORE WEEKEND WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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gj on not being a crusty cynic PD :bow
How is it being a "crusty cynic" when I love the other four seasons of the show? :lol
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thought the end would address why Ben and the others don't recognize Jack/Sayid/Kate/Sawyer etc in the future
They already did this with the lazily written copout "he wont remember any of this" from Richard.
But Richard and Elloise remember shit ???
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thought the end would address why Ben and the others don't recognize Jack/Sayid/Kate/Sawyer etc in the future
They already did this with the lazily written copout "he wont remember any of this" from Richard.
But Richard and Elloise remember shit ???
You werent paying attention, were you, PD? Losties take brat Ben to others to save him, Richard says, paraphrased "we'll take him and fix him but he wont remember this". And thus it was whitewashed.
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Ah yea on Ben you're right. But it doesn't explain some other characters
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and thus the inconsistencies in S5.
:yuck
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What makes you think they didn't remember?
The only real thing that bothered me was why the numbers were some random serial code stamped on the hatch by some peon when they're supposed to be the variables in that Fettucini code or whatever.
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one could make a pretty huge gripe case on Lost and "random" stuff happening
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http://www.empiremovies.com/2010/01/29/lost-season-6-clip/
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Sorry demi :'(
(http://i49.tinypic.com/24qk9r5.jpg)
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Ah yea on Ben you're right. But it doesn't explain some other characters
What other characters?
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Ah yea on Ben you're right. But it doesn't explain some other characters
What other characters?
Richard? Ethan? French Chick (Jin)?
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Ah yea on Ben you're right. But it doesn't explain some other characters
What other characters?
Richard? Ethan? French Chick (Jin)?
Ethan was born while they were there, Rosseau was crazy and barely met Jin.
Who says Richard didn't remember?
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Ah yea on Ben you're right. But it doesn't explain some other characters
What other characters?
Richard? Ethan? French Chick (Jin)?
Ethan was born while they were there, Rosseau was crazy and barely met Jin.
Who says Richard didn't remember?
Ethan met Locke when he was older, and Rosseau met Jin before she "went crazy." You'd think she'd remember finding some asian dude out in the ocean.
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I'm pretty sure Rousseau and Jin never meet face to face in the entire series prior to that incident.
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Some discussion on it
http://www.lost.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6356
Dunno, seems like the product of making stuff up as you go.
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Seriously, is Hurley getting fatter?
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the spinning in that thread is hilarious
"all asian people look alike!"
"she was too stunned to say anything!"
"people would think she is crazy!"
as if she already hasnt crossed that line ::)
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Sorry demi :'(
(http://i49.tinypic.com/24qk9r5.jpg)
Dat stomach
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Damn, first episode of season 6 got leaked. For anyone who wants to watch:
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/4342548
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^ Removed for TOS
I'll wait until Tuesday...
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Also, what was Libby doing in Hurley's mental hospital?
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Damn, first episode of season 6 got leaked. For anyone who wants to watch:
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/4342548
Oh, wow. I guess they took it off like right after I posted the link.
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If you can find a link to a download for the episode that would be great, so I can link to overseas brothas
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Ew, its a FLV of a CAM from a screening they had. No thanks... tuesday it is
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The leaked episode wouldn't be so bad, except that that audio sync is fucked up and it randomly stutters in VLC Media Player. I watched until the LOST logo, just since people said there was a big WTF moment beyond the scene on the airplane. There were right :)
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SPOIL ME WHAT IS IT PLEASE
Mmmmmmmmmmmmm in my veins
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seconded
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Jack talks to Desmond on the plane after a trip to the bathroom.....he says something dumb like "Don't I know you from somewhere?" The camera flies out the window, falls through the skies and dives underwater to show a Dharma shark swimming around and the giant foot statue submerged at the bottom of the ocean.
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:lol awesome
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the real question is can fonzie safely clear it
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Awesome... I am so stoked for Tuesday
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lol I watched a bit further ahead
LOL
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http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/2010/02/lost-season-6-new-promo-with-even-more.html
oh my gooooooooooooooood
mythos up the ass. i am going to cum.
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Whatever happened to ABC's vow not to show any new footage until after the season premiere? Not that I mind any of these promos, but I thought they were resolved not to give away anything.
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I imagine the main point of that was to not have any previously dead characters show up in any footage (Were they? I only watched it once and don't remember any of them being shown, and don't really want to watch it again)
Btw, another 3 minutes of the episode are up on abc.com, nothing groundbreaking, it picks up with Fake Locke and Ben after the S5 finale.
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lost fagz, what's the name of the song that plays whenever Locke is doing something awesome. I first remember it when he was carrying his dad around in S4
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I watched a little more, but couldn't take the crappy sound for too long.
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The Return of Arzt!!!!
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http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/2010/02/lost-season-6-new-promo-with-even-more.html
oh my gooooooooooooooood
mythos up the ass. i am going to cum.
:bow mythos :bow2
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Tonight's the night. I'm unplugging my phone and putting my kid to bed at fucking 7pm. :lol
Seriously though, I traded shifts with a girl at work just to be home tonight.
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Getting near the end of season 3.
Juliet is the most annoying bitch ever. When does she get shanked?
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Figures you wouldn't like Juliet.
Figures.
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She's blown up by a nuke. Seriously.
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She survives the nuke... then dies
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she's got such a weirdly shaped body, and always has a :smug face
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I love that smirk
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Stolen from GAF. Not actually a spoiler, it's just a really big pic
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lmao. Fuckin Naomi
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I love that smirk
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:rofl
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lmao. Fuckin Naomi
"She's Full"
:lol
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hahahhahahah :lol
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juliet became awesome over time, then
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they killed her so they can continue that "days of our lives" jack/kate/sawyer bullshit
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That's awesome. :lol
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I love that smirk
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(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/3986/losttacobell.png)
Stolen from GAF. Not actually a spoiler, it's just a really big pic
:rofl
:rofl
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juliet became awesome over time, then spoiler (click to show/hide)
they killed her so they can continue that "days of our lives" jack/kate/sawyer bullshit
I never liked Juliet. She was more tolerable in S5 but overall I just don't like her. Only way to resolve the love triangle is for
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Sawyer to die, most likely in order to save everyone.
This is basically Cyclops/Jean Grey/Wolverine.
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I love that smirk
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LOL
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I love that smirk
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LOL
LOLOL
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That was awesome :rofl
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yes, yes it was
thanks for not quoting it
this isnt gaf, threads dont get bumped every 30 seconds, if you laugh people just need to scroll up to see what youre laughing at
/asshole
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Simply fantastic.
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Simply fantastic.
what is this in reference to ???
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Simply fantastic.
what is this in reference to ???
Look up. Read the pic.
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oh ok. you should quote it next time ;)
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I hope Kate dies
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but if I had to guess it'll be Sawyer, Sayid, and Desmond
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yes, yes it was
thanks for not quoting it
this isnt gaf, threads dont get bumped every 30 seconds, if you laugh people just need to scroll up to see what youre laughing at
/asshole
TOO BAD THERE ISN"T SOME FORUM FUNCTION THAT COVERS UP THE PICTURE UNLESS YOU CLICK ON IT HUH
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Abrams isn't really involved or responsible for what goes on in the show past the Pilot.
And Juliet is awesome and has nice boobs. stfu.
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the season 3 finale is fuck awesome in part because of Juliet's back stab.
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but which way? :teehee
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LOL at that CGI. That was kinda rough.
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jesus christ why is the island under the water oh god
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More like WHY IS DESMOND ON THE PLANE WHAT IS THIS I DON'T EVEN???
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LOL at that CGI. That was kinda rough.
agreed, looked like some CG intro from a 90s PC game
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what is the way what god jesus huh
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idontknowwhat
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first time i have read a gaf lost thread live; never again
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ok, what the fuck
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JACK x 2
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JACK x 2
yeah, what is this. WHEN is this
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i mean, the desmond thing makes sense, but that other scene...
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He won the lottery and he likes chicken so he bought it.
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OMG ALTERNATE UNIVERSE HURLEY!
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He won the lottery and he likes chicken so he bought it.
this is the most logical thing said in the entire series
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lol at juliet being alive
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ACTION HURLEY TO THE RESCUE...OMG WHAT IS THAT GUY DOING THERE???
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JACK x 2
yeah, what is this. WHEN is this
isn't time a cycle? they probably changed time just not their immediate one.
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how did Rita's dead beat ex-husband get on the island
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Woah, so now there'd be three Lockes. Dead Locke, Anti-Jacob/Locke, and Earth-Two Locke.
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man, i like bruce willis, but that movie looks whole ten yards bad
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i'll buy every season on blu ray if sawyer kills jack
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if anyone kills jack
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please, someone kill jack
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They can't kill anyone now, they just got the whole gang back together!
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charlie!!! girlish screeeeeeams
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it could be any time this season, really, i'm not picky
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which jack tho? real jack or plan jack?
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If Boone killed Jack, would that blow your mind?
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If Boone killed Jack, would that blow your mind?
i would laugh, yes
which jack tho? real jack or plan jack?
all of them
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hahaha, he fucked that dude up extra hard
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ANTI-JACOB IS THE SMOKE MONSTERS??????!!!!!!!!!!!
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i just threw my hands up and walked away from the tv.
bananas.
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commercials every two minutes is fuck annoying, will download the rest of the season
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I overslept and missed th first hour NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Will watch that tomorrow :lol
I already read a synopsis on the first hour anyway
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it would be hilarious if that's charlie's only appearance this season
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serious question: Is it work getting into this show? I haven't seen a single episode and only know of it based on the legion of fans. It's a big time investment.
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OMG ALTERNATE UNIVERSE HURLEY!
I prefer current time hurley. That red shirt brings out the curves :drool
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Based on this page of the thread, I've decided to abort mission. There's no way any show with plot twists as wacky and bizzarre as the ones described above could possibly be worth 100+ hours of my life.
Ok thanks for the post. Bye
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Based on this page of the thread, I've decided to abort mission. There's no way any show with plot twists as wacky and bizzarre as the ones described above could possibly be worth 100+ hours of my life.
Yes it's much too smart for someone who thinks Avatar is the pinnacle of storytelling.
:avatar
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hey look there's a magical healing pool that was never talked about or even hinted at for five fucking seasons
this show is so goddamned ridiculous
also hahaha jack is so worthless
"i can't do anything for him"
ten minutes later he's weeping and doing cpr
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hey look there's a magical healing pool that was never talked about or even hinted at for five fucking seasons
this show is so goddamned ridiculous
also hahaha jack is so worthless
"i can't do anything for him"
ten minutes later he's weeping and doing cpr
That's where they took Ben last season ::)
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spoiler (click to show/hide)
hey look there's a magical healing pool that was never talked about or even hinted at for five fucking seasons
this show is so goddamned ridiculous
also hahaha jack is so worthless
"i can't do anything for him"
ten minutes later he's weeping and doing cpr
That's where they took Ben last season ::)
This.
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I read the spoilers BUT THEY MAKE NO SENSE. Will download when I get home. 4 hours :(
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d'oh forgot about that
still ridic
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Oh god, I bet he is an alien after that little confession.
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man, they just totally shit all over locke's character
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Oh god that felt so good. Lost is back baby. YES!!!!
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Episode Finished.
Lost = Kingdom Hearts
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Jacob reincarnated as Sayid.
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too obvious
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Best two hours of my life. :bow2
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man, they just totally shit all over locke's character
I think what's important is that his body is even on the island at all. I have no idea where they are going with the alternate universe stuff though.
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Of course, Richard was a slave on the black rock as people guessed
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Jacob reincarnated as Sayid.
That's what I think too.
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7/10 premiere. nothing really shocking. mostly due to the show becoming far too predictable in it's crazyness. I no longer react to the moments like I used to. Now I just nod and say "Yep."
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I missed the freakin smoke scene, I gotta watch that at least.
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i wonder how long until they even go back to the fact that THE FUCKING ISLAND WAS UNDERWATER.
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They blew it up and it sank.
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This show is getting to the point where I really don't care about any of the characters anymore.
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it's all unicorns and resurrections now
maybe the lost mirror universe will stay a bit more grounded
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Yeah, this plot has officially become unglued. What's with Ra's Al Ghul and his dirty hippie sidekick?
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I love LOST but the Japanese guy was straight out of a comic book. He speaks English, but prefers to speak Japanese because he hates way English ''taste'' on his tongue?! That's just so inefficient, especially for the defacto leader of the Temple.
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This show is getting to the point where I really don't care about any of the characters anymore.
"getting"? :lol
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I still kind of like Hurley, but even he is getting on my nerves. I really want someone to go, "Hey, fuck you - answer some questions! Quit dragging shit out!"
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For the last few years I've just operated on the assumption that LOST is ther perfect TV pulp book. The writing is ATROCIOUS, the plot is crazy, but it's pure sugar. I love it and I respect the way it's gotten the medium's most mind-bending twists on the screen, but it's definitley not GREAT TELEVISION material like The Wire or Mad Men or something. It's in a league of it's own
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Poor Bram. Maybe in another lifetime we will get some noods
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7/10 premiere. nothing really shocking. mostly due to the show becoming far too predictable in it's crazyness. I no longer react to the moments like I used to. Now I just nod and say "Yep."
:lol Pretty much. I'm half-expecting that they'll have the timelines converge at some point and we'll end up with an island full of doppelgangers.
I think Jacob is the bad guy :shh
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I'm very disappointed in ALL of you!
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Almost done with Season 3. Frustrations boiling over. I don't think I've ever seen a show that uses so much contrived dialogue and so many contrived plot devices and characterizations to create artificial suspense and mystery.
Juliet has been with the survivors for how many days now? And they still haven't forced her to spill the beans on what she knows about the island and the others? All because Jack has a crush and she gave Claire a shot?
And apparently if you blow a load on the island, you make five times as much jizz. demi is trying to charter a boat as we speak.
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spoiler (click to show/hide)
I'm surprised at peoples reactions to the premier. As far as I'm aware the show has already revealed its overall structure (not through interviews or anything, just from within the narrative of the show itself), which is similar to an ouroboros with different human agents upon each new cycle. Each new reveal is another step towards understanding how the ouroboros transfers agency from one subject to the next (so that Jacob becomes Locke, Nemesis becomes Jack etc.) What was awesome about the premier episodes is that they got a lot of the character scenes just right. One of the criticisms of season 5 is that the characters were sorely reduced in order to tie up all the knots. The season 6 premier may have already broke even with the entirety of season 5 in terms of good character work.
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this show looks really weird on my familys new bravia
i think its because it has a really high hz, its 200+
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February 3, 2010
"LOST" SERIES FINALE EVENT SET FOR SUNDAY, MAY 23 ON ABC
Finale to Air on a Special Night, Sunday, May 23 from 9:00-11:00 p.m., ET,
Preceded by a Recap Special from 8:00-9:00 p.m., ET
Stephen McPherson, president, ABC Entertainment Group, today announced the "Lost" series finale date, airing as a primetime event on a special night on Sunday, May 23 from 9:00-11:00 p.m., ET. Preceding the finale will be a recap special from 8:00-9:00 p.m., ET.
"Lost is an example of what happens when you put creativity above everything else, trust the creative vision, and take the risks required to be truly original," said McPherson. "It's a testament to staying true to the creative vision of one of the most iconic shows ever on television, and we're giving the producers an unprecedented opportunity to respect the fans and really satisfy the viewers with a spectacular conclusion."
The critically acclaimed, hit drama premiered on September 22, 2004. The series was nominated for numerous awards and was a 2008 recipient of the prestigious Peabody Award, and awarded the 2005 Emmy and 2006 Golden Globe for Best Drama Series. At the end of its sixth and final season, "Lost" will have aired 114 episodes (121 episodic hours).
Executive producers Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse appeared on ABC's "Jimmy Kimmel Live" after "Lost's" season premiere on Tuesday, February 2 (12:05 a.m., ET) to discuss the upcoming season.
Oceanic Air flight 815 tore apart in mid-air and crashed on a Pacific island, leaving 48 passengers alive and stranded on a remote island in the South Pacific. The survivors include a diverse group of people from different walks of life -- a doctor, an escaped fugitive, a con man, an Iraqi interrogator, a married Korean couple and a man formerly confined to a wheelchair who is now inexplicably healed. As the castaways attempt to get home, flashbacks (and forwards) illuminate their troubled lives before and after the crash, as the island that they find themselves stranded on begins to slowly reveal its mysterious nature. Faith, reason, destiny and free will all clash as the island offers opportunities for both corruption and redemption... but as to its true purpose? That's the greatest mystery of all.
"Lost" stars Naveen Andrews as Sayid, Nestor Carbonell as Richard Alpert, Emilie de Ravin as Claire, Michael Emerson as Ben, Jeff Fahey as Frank Lapidus, Matthew Fox as Jack, Jorge Garcia as Hurley, Josh Holloway as Sawyer, Daniel Dae Kim as Jin, Yunjin Kim as Sun, Ken Leung as Miles, Evangeline Lilly as Kate, Terry O'Quinn as Locke and Zuleikha Robinson as Ilana.
"Lost" was created by Jeffrey Lieber and J.J. Abrams & Damon Lindelof. Abrams, Lindelof, Bryan Burk, Jean Higgins, Elizabeth Sarnoff, Edward Kitsis, Adam Horowitz, Jack Bender and Carlton Cuse serve as executive producers. "Lost," which is filmed entirely on location in Hawaii and premiered on September 22, 2004, is from ABC Studios. For more information on "Lost," visit ABC.com.
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this show looks really weird on my familys new bravia
i think its because it has a really high hz, its 200+
Are you watching the HD channel? It looks amazing on my TV.
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I'll agree on the 7/10 rating for the premier. First episode was meh. Really didn't like the tone of the first few scenes, with Hurley providing comic relief as I was supposed to be feeling the gravity of some emotional scene I didn't really care about. Hell I couldn't help thinking "yea I sure with Sawyer would just kill Jack." Juliet's death had no emotional weight.
Second episode was interesting but too ridiculous. Asian Dude With a Beard is straight out of Batman or some other comic/cartoon/videogame, and White Translator gave me some Apocalypse Now flashbacks. I'm guessing that was the temple Ben told his people to hide in at the end of S4 right. Only interesting stuff was with Dark Locke. Is he the smoke monster, or can he just take control of it?
The flashbacks only served to take you out the action, and the only one I liked was Jack meeting Locke for the "first" time.
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PD, he spells it out pretty clearly
* Gets shot at
* Disappears suddenly, bullet has no impact
* Suddenly monster appears
* Vanishes
* Behind Ben
"I'm sorry you had to see me like that."
You are smarter than this
Or am I just hoping too much
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Remember earlier in the series when Locke faced Smokey and it didn't kill him? That's probably when Smokey chose him as the loophole.
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Are you watching the HD channel? It looks amazing on my TV.
of course
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The quality of ABC's HD feed seems to vary by region and cable provider. It used to look straight up awful when I had DirecTV
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PD, he spells it out pretty clearly
* Gets shot at
* Disappears suddenly, bullet has no impact
* Suddenly monster appears
* Vanishes
* Behind Ben
"I'm sorry you had to see me like that."
You are smarter than this
Or am I just hoping too much
Also, in "Dead is Dead" when Ben goes to summon the smoke monster, only fake locke comes out of the bushes.
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Yea just making sure. The GAF thread was full of so much ridiculous stuff I had to check
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PD, he spells it out pretty clearly
* Gets shot at
* Disappears suddenly, bullet has no impact
* Suddenly monster appears
* Vanishes
* Behind Ben
"I'm sorry you had to see me like that."
You are smarter than this
Or am I just hoping too much
Also, in "Dead is Dead" when Ben goes to summon the smoke monster, only fake locke comes out of the bushes.
It makes sense that the Smoke Monster told Ben to do whatever Locke said or it would kill him, when you realize that Smoke Monster WAS Locke.
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poor choice of words, whatever dude. my point still stands - it was pretty boring.
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That grubby-ass translator looks like he bites and eats his toenails.
The premiere was kinda meh because there weren't any really tasty reveals (and half of it was wasted on maudlin relationship bullshit that should have ended when Juliet died the first time), but I think it's setting up to be a pretty good season. Yeah, as it stands now the whole parallel universe thing with all the old characters just feels like fanservice, but it'll get interesting once they merge the timelines.
And Smokey vs Jacob looks infinitely more interesting then the whole bunch of NOTHING that happened in S5.
:piss Time travel :piss2
:bow Demigod power struggle :bow2
edit: You know, now that I think about it I don't know if I've thoroughly enjoyed a season premiere of LOST since S2
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I do have to say I was "meh" on the season premiere until people started sitting up 30 seconds before the end of hour two.
Mainly because I don't know where they are going with this alternate universe shit. I will probably like the premiere more once I see what the fucking point is behind that.
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Just watched S4E5 - The Constant.
Desmond and Penny's phone call at the end is completely fuuuuuuuuuu...
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Juliet is a bigger fucking douche than R2D2.
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Juliet is the closest thing to a tolerable female character that the show has
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She's only useful when she's mysterious. When shes getting the cock she's no diff from the rest of the bitches.
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No, she isn't useful at all. She has so much insider information about The Others and the island, and so far she's managed to completely avoid answering any questions for the better part of a season. At least R2D2 had a good excuse (the fact that he can only talk in beeps). Juliet has no fucking excuse - she's just a huge prick.
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List of characters who give direct info:
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I get GS's frustration because she's characterized as intelligent and yet she is nonetheless a female.
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Yea, the female characters are meh. I like Rose because she sounds and looks like my grandma, but outside of that meh. Especially Kate.
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No, she isn't useful at all. She has so much insider information about The Others and the island, and so far she's managed to completely avoid answering any questions for the better part of a season. At least R2D2 had a good excuse (the fact that he can only talk in beeps). Juliet has no fucking excuse - she's just a huge prick.
Juliet doesn't know anything, she was bought onto the island late in the game, and just did what she was told by Ben. Who, it turns out, doesn't really know shit about the island either. Sawyer, Hurley, Jin, and them worked on the island for several years with the Dharma Initiative in the 70's, they probably know as much about the island as Juliet does.
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List of characters who give direct info:
:lol no shit
"WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!?!?!"
"What do you think I'm talking about, Jack?"
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Luckily a lot of shit gets answered in S5 and 6
that being said...
spoiler (GS gtfo)
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Juliet's last words in S6 were the definition of Lost. "I have something really important to tell you" *dies*
Granted we found out what she said pretty quickly, but that scene was just dumb. I didn't feel anything emotionally anyway (moreso disappointment because I knew Sawyer wouldn't really kill Jack), but that last line made a meh scene even meher.
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Too bad Shannon didn't come back for some more wincest.
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Claire :-*
Kinda worthless, but so hot.
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She was probably the only character I absolutely hated. Nothing to like there. At least
S4 spoiler gtfo GreenShinobi
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Michael had some redemption, and was interesting in general given the show's constant wave of absent/abusive fathers. There was nothing interesting about Shannon.
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Too bad Shannon didn't come back for some more wincest.
I think she might be at a later date, but she was too busy to star in the first episode, or something.
Doing what? Sucking off some producer for movie role?
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I forgot about Ana Lucia :lol
I liked her, but apparently she was one of the most hated Lost characters (according to gaf)
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I don't feel comfortable talking about Shannon with BrandNew around.
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i love how they're always introducing new characters out of the blue like, all the fucking time, even in the last season
hey everybody say hello to shiwan khan, he's just been loitering around the temple all this time, you know, doing stuff
there's like 500 people up in that joint
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i love how they're always introducing new characters out of the blue like, all the fucking time, even in the last season
hey everybody say hello to shiwan khan, he's just been loitering around the temple all this time, you know, doing stuff
there's like 500 people up in that joint
Then they die 10 episodes later
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wasn't that bad actually
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Just finished Season 4. :rock Fuck yes at Desmond and Penny getting back together; I hope he pounded the fuck out of that vag and made Hurley watch! So fucking pumped. I haven't been so happy for a character on a tv show in like... ever. Fuck it, I haven't teared up so much since Shadow came up over that hill at the end of Homeward Bound. Desmond :rock
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i'm so excited for tonight :)
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Kate episode - set pillows to SNOOZE
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oh fuck, seriously?
I'm just afraid of having to slum it through another Sayid episode, honestly.
That'll be the low point of the season.
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Taken from the GAF Funny pics thread
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v453/Mopower/1lostavatar.jpg)
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http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=33241.msg1041610#msg1041610 :P
That one is grammatically correct, though.
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Awww shit. Would possibly be awesome if there was one more panel with Locke walking in the Jungle PS'ed as a Na'vi but that would probably kill it.
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this episode kinda sucks
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yep. this episode sucks
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hey guys wanna know whats going on with kate well she's on the r-
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_2Ueh9lrrRzU/SIDNE1GM-qI/AAAAAAAACDQ/PufOwYKTj28/s400/snooze.jpg)
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yep. this episode sucks
balls.
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yeah, if this ep were titled like a friends episode it would be "the one with all the :rolleyes"
well, pretty sure i know how sawyer's part ends up now
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HOLY SHIT at the Sawyer and Kate Scene....
such good actors!
i know i said i would never read a gaf lost thread again, but are u shitting me? are these people serious?
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zzzz
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i can't believe they only have like 16 episodes left and they wasted one on that
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NOBODY CARES ABOUT KATE JUST KILL HER OFF ALREADY
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Wild Claire
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yep. this episode sucks
Whatever dude, I think the hint of some possible Kate x Claire action makes this episode AUTOMATICALLY AMAZING.
:tauntaun
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OMG the revealed something extremely obvious albeit meaningless at the end, BEST SHOW EVER! emmys for everyone.
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hopefully next ep with bizarro locke will make up for it
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haaaaaaaaattteerrrzzzz
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hopefully next ep with bizarro locke will make up for it
Really, cus I think the next episode will end with locke and sawyer looking at the DOOR of wherever the fuck they are going. I'll put e cred on this.
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hopefully next ep with bizarro locke will make up for it
Really, cus I think the next episode will end with locke and sawyer looking at the DOOR of wherever the fuck they are going. I'll put e cred on this.
(http://i46.tinypic.com/rjk175.gif)
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So Locke in season 5 is actually the smoke monster? Real, badass island Locke is gone?
Btw, I call bullshit on someone as outspoken as Frogurt sitting back and not saying anything for so long. He would have made his presence felt in the first season, hell, the first episode.
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K I'm already sick of the alternate reality bullshit. WOW CLAIRE ALMOST HAD HER BAYBEH AND ETHAN WAS HER DOCTOR MY MIND IS BLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWN. I hope they end it sooner rather than later.
And who gives a fuck about these dirty hippies and their magical spring? Gimme some Smokey action.
i can't believe they only have like 16 episodes left and they wasted one on that
I have a feeling I'm gonna be saying this a lot.
HOLY SHIT at the Sawyer and Kate Scene....
such good actors!
i know i said i would never read a gaf lost thread again, but are u shitting me? are these people serious?
Was it neoism? Every post that guy (girl? hopefully a girl) makes is drooling fanboy drivel
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The knob-slobbing that's going on in that GAF thread right now is fucking amazing :lol
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Sawyer, Desmond and Locke are the only affective actors on this show
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Michael Emerson is like 50% awesome, 25% decent, and 25% is-that-Emerson's-twin-brother-that-doesn't-know-how-to-act?
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Next week's episode: A tight shot of Hurley gorging on Dharma peanut butter for 42 minutes. Occasional ass-fiddling.
Already more memorable than this episode. Embarrassing.
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HOLY SHIT at the Sawyer and Kate Scene....
such good actors!
i know i said i would never read a gaf lost thread again, but are u shitting me? are these people serious?
Was it neoism? Every post that guy (girl? hopefully a girl) makes is drooling fanboy drivel
yep :lol
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Man, fuck this show. It's the last season, and we're getting fed more vague horse shit? Why does everything have to be so fucking vague?
HE IS INFECTED
INFECTED WITH WHAT
I CAN'T EXPLAIN GIVE HIM THIS MEDICINE
WHATS IN THE MEDICINE
I CANT EXPLAIN IT JUST TRUST ME
... REALLY?! REALLYY?!!!#$!234
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The best ever was "If I told you, you'd have to kill me." :lol :lol :lol
Juliet :piss2
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The other part that sucks is that once a season, a character goes, "NO I WANT YOU TO ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS FIRST!"
And then the antagonist says reveals yet another mystery and that stumps the entire cast into submission.
(They did it again today.)
HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT WILL HAPPEN
BECAUSE I SAW IT HAPPEN TO YOUR SISTER GASP!!!!
... Well, in that case, I'll just stop asking questions and remain completely in the dark because - ugh! - fuck this show.
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This actually happened:
Jack: Are you from here? From the island?
Japanese Hippie: I was brought here.
Jack: What do you mean "brought here"?
Me: I bet he says, "You know what I mean."
Japanese Hippie: ...You know what I mean.
Jack: OH OKAY THEN LOL
Me: I FUCKING KNEW IT
Not that the show hasn't always been like this, but like someone else said, you think that with there being a limited amount of episodes left they'd be done wasting time on fuckin mini-mysteries
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HAHAHAHAHA I didnt think that spoiler I read would be true! Claire the new Rousseau :lol
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which is weird because it sort of implies that it was Rousseau who was infected the whole time and not her crew mates.
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this new device they're using is annoying. by having "flash sideways" now they have guaranteed to have a set series of episodes basically written out for them. you're gonna have the sawyer episode, the locke episode, the hurley episode, probs a charlie episode. etc. it's annoying because they're moved away from that last season and now we're right back where we started. ugh
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If there's a lesson to be learned here: Use your time wisely. LOST is in like DOUBLE HURRY UP mode and just keeps dispensing goofy plot points. ALso, big ups for being like 15 episodes away from being done and introducing like 70 new characters.
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worst episode ever. :lol
THERE'S A DARKNESS GROWING IN HIM
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i'm still laughing
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i still am
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i still don't get why claire willingly got into a car with a lady that held her at gunpoint in handcuffs less than an hour ago, or why kate was so nonchalantly strolling around town in her stolen cab after assaulting a us marshal, who actually saw her hijack it.
it was like a mass effect loyalty mission.
kate: "escaping from the police is urgent and my first priority but i guess i have time to find out why this family no longer wants to adopt your child. best to get that out of the way first, the other stuff can wait."
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i still don't get why claire willingly got into a car with a lady that held her at gunpoint in handcuffs less than an hour ago, or why kate was so nonchalantly strolling around town in her stolen cab after assaulting a us marshal, who actually saw her hijack it.
And how did she find Claire again anyway? It probably took her a while to find a disreputable-looking mechanic and then she had to come back to where she kicked Claire out, assuming she could even remember where it was as there were likely other things on her mind.
But, really, Kate's character is just annoying. She's like an elephant crashing through the forest, she has no idea at all what she's doing but she's going to do it as loudly as possible.
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Watching Lost is like suffering from battered spouse syndrome. The show treats you terrible and constantly abuses you, but you just keep hoping against hope that it will find a way to turn it around - because underneath all the abusive behavior, it's a real swell show.
At the rate that the show is wasting episodes and refusing to answer anything of substance, I can't imagine the series finale being anything but terrible.
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Told you guys, it was a Kate episode.... :lol
I went straight to bed when I got home, I didnt watch the episode till I downloaded it this morning.
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"THE TIME FOR QUESTIONS IS OVER!"
Yeah, because, they aren't going to answer them anyway so don't even bother. :lol
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I am hoping the last episode builds up to a riveting climax, where Jacob promises to answer all the questions everyone has - and right when he opens his mouth, the camera switches to a shot of the entire Lost staff mooning and farting at the audience. The screen fades to black, and before all the loyal viewers can begin to verbalize their outrage, they are greeted with one last, final image...
spoiler (click to show/hide)
:patel
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that episode was fucking terrible. I do believe that's the first new Lost episode where I started doing other shit while it was on. I wasn't even looking at the screen or listening during the alternate reality shit. Godfuckingdamn.
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''there's a darkness growing in him''
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What's in it?
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I can't tell you
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The same thing happened to...your sister!
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Where is my sister?!
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Anyone else just want to rip off Hurley's shirt and fuck him?
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Poison
spoiler (click to show/hide)
(http://www.urbanhonking.com/medschool/archives/poison_BC.jpg)
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how stupid was it
spoiler (click to show/hide)
when jack took the poison and crouching tiger beat him like a dog to make him spit it out, when he could have just grabbed granny glasses and made him swallow it
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also it's cute how kate manages to find so many people eager and willing to lend a helpin' hand to a confessed murderer
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Theres pretty much no defending this episode. THE stinker. Where's Solo at
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granny glasses :lol
I hate the japanese guy and i hate the dirty hippie fuck so much. it was friggin awesome when they showed the temple and there's all this crazy shit and then bam. a comic book character with his white fuck toy. lame.
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Kate pissed me off because she's such a fucking woman on the show. Like the worst stereotype of a selfish stupid woman. Jin even asks, what are you going to do when you find him? we'll figure that out together. WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?? HE DIDN'T WANT YOU THERE WHY ARE YOU GOING WHAT FUCKING SENSE DOES THAT EVEN MAKE? ARE YOU TWELVE FUCKING YEARS OLD? GODFUCKINGDAMN.
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She wants that dick mayne. All the bitches in the show are like that.
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Pretty much. This show has the worst female characters ever. Jack is the only decent female on the show.
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anyone else get the vibe that the actor playing master po knows his part is pretty worthless?
there's like this palpable look of disdainful resignation that washes over his face whenever he has a cryptically nonsensical line of dialogue
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Pretty much. This show has the worst female characters ever. Jack is the only decent female on the show.
hahahahahaha
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Kate pissed me off because she's such a fucking woman on the show. Like the worst stereotype of a selfish stupid woman. Jin even asks, what are you going to do when you find him? we'll figure that out together. WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?? HE DIDN'T WANT YOU THERE WHY ARE YOU GOING WHAT FUCKING SENSE DOES THAT EVEN MAKE? ARE YOU TWELVE FUCKING YEARS OLD? GODFUCKINGDAMN.
Like I said:
But, really, Kate's character is just annoying. She's like an elephant crashing through the forest, she has no idea at all what she's doing but she's going to do it as loudly as possible.
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anyone else get the vibe that the actor playing master po knows his part is pretty worthless?
there's like this palpable look of disdainful resignation that washes over his face whenever he has a cryptically nonsensical line of dialogue
Yes, yes, yes.
He looks like he wants his character to die as soon as possible. To be honest, almost everyone outside the main cast looks pretty bored and like they're half assing it.
Kate pissed me off because she's such a fucking woman on the show. Like the worst stereotype of a selfish stupid woman. Jin even asks, what are you going to do when you find him? we'll figure that out together. WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?? HE DIDN'T WANT YOU THERE WHY ARE YOU GOING WHAT FUCKING SENSE DOES THAT EVEN MAKE? ARE YOU TWELVE FUCKING YEARS OLD? GODFUCKINGDAMN.
Like I said:
But, really, Kate's character is just annoying. She's like an elephant crashing through the forest, she has no idea at all what she's doing but she's going to do it as loudly as possible.
Yeah, that's pretty much it right there. She's so obnoxious in that she never thinks about what she does and she never regrets anything. i learned that in S4 when she slaps Sawyer for basically telling her how it is when she wants to run back to Jack. She is the worst character on the show in every way. Her character on the show is a selfish bitch, she has some of the worst lines and she's a terrible actress.
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The only redeeming aspect of Kate is that her actress can, at times, look hot.
Last night was the most boring night of television I experienced in a while.
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:hump
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[youtube=560,345]1aPc3mZpbpU[/youtube]
Narrator: The time for questions is OVER
Sawyer: What is this place?
:lol
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This is officially the gayest show on tv now.
I could barely keep myself interested in the season premiere when it aired and skipped the Kate episode altogether so I went back and watched all of them this afternoon online. I can't believe I actually liked this show at one time. I really have no desire to see how this fucking thing turns out. First 3 seasons were great, the fourth was short but tolerable, fifth was interesting until we found out the Dharma group were nothing but a bunch of A-Team quality bad guys, but this season.....good fucking night. This is Hideo Kojima quality bullshit.
The only thing that'll save this show is if the Globetrotters get stranded on the island.
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meadowlark lemon was born in my hometown :rock
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Man, fuck this show. It's the last season, and we're getting fed more vague horse shit? Why does everything have to be so fucking vague?
HE IS INFECTED
INFECTED WITH WHAT
I CAN'T EXPLAIN GIVE HIM THIS MEDICINE
WHATS IN THE MEDICINE
I CANT EXPLAIN IT JUST TRUST ME
... REALLY?! REALLYY?!!!#$!234
Just watched the ep and wanted to quote this because I felt exactly the same way. I wanted to yell at the fucking TV.
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Any real person, at that point, would be like "Okay, I'm going to come over there and I'm going to hit you and I'm going to keep hitting you until you ANSWER THE DAMN QUESTION!"
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As long as we see more of Hurley displaying dat stomach in his red shirt like a giant stop sign, I will watch this show forever and ever
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I can only predict the finale being awful. Of course, the Lost fanboys will eat it up even if it's Jack taking a shit on a plane for 2 hours.
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preview for the next episode ffffuuuuu
http://abc.go.com/watch/clip/lost/SH006723620000/165261/250824
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Episode was alright. I'm so tired of Kate, past present and future. And the temple stuff really is not interesting, just more stalling. The last reveal with pretty obvious but still interesting. Also, why is every Hurley line a caricature/nerd fan service. It's getting tiring, and I like the character.
Just get back to Locke.
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(http://screensnapr.com/u/vxoz3c.png)
:rofl
go watch The Wire, hipster
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bump for LOST!!!!!!!!
Early impression from Canadians is this ep answers some, but leaves more questions
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CRIPPLE LOCKE IS CRIPPLE
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MAN TITS
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already this episode is a fuckton better than last weeks shitfest
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Locke: "Come with me and I'll tell you everything."
Richard: "No"
Audience: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"
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Sawyer was wackin off
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There's something about that chick from Spain (the one crying where Jacob died). She has masculine features but still :-[
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AMAZING episode. As per usual for a Locke ep
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sweet ep 8)
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That was really cool how they wrapped up the numbers. They said it was one of those things they were never going to address, but I think this is a somewhat tidy explanation. But damn, SO MANY NAMES CROSSED OFF.
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Much better episode than last week.
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Hurley would make the worst protector ever.
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Assuming that Jacob didn't know he was going to die, perhaps he and his buddy both have the same thing in mind. They're both stuck on the island, and they both need someone to replace them before they can leave.
Now what's weird is that Jacob's hit squad were referring to Lazarus as a candidate in s5.
edit: oooooooooohh
Seeing how Kwon is ambiguous, so is Shepard. What if, they are two separate candidate lists? The one in the cave belongs to smokey, in the previews jack comes upon his name written down somewhere else.
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you mean Lapidus?
My feeling is that Jacob does believe there is a purpose to the island, a purpose yet to be revealed, and protecting the island for an indefinite period of time is necessary for it to manifest. Facob selfishly opting to halt the cycle of candidates would result in the island never achieving its intended purpose, whatever that may be.
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Jacob isn't really stuck on the island. We've seen him leave plenty of times in the season 5 finale.
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Jacob isn't really stuck on the island. We've seen him leave plenty of times in the season 5 finale.
yeah, but imagine he's tethered to it somehow. Like, a man, who can go home, but he still has a contract with a company.
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Bajillion times better than the turd they were trying to pass off as television last week.
I love getting to see pathetic, crippled Locke again; reminds you how far he came
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it's funny how lindelof was trying to bust on ncis, yet any random episode of that show would have been better than last week's lost
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Bajillion times better than the turd they were trying to pass off as television last week.
I love getting to see pathetic, crippled Locke again; reminds you how far he came
I dunno, he seems more balanced now. Like a good set of flaws and confidence. And he's spoken for! :omg
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Peg Bundy :bow
Though that closeup shot of her face in HD didnt help... soft weiner total
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There's something about that chick from Spain (the one crying where Jacob died). She has masculine features but still :-[
You need to watch her in Rome.
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There's something about that chick from Spain (the one crying where Jacob died). She has masculine features but still :-[
You need to watch her in Rome.
Goddamn it, THAT'S where she was from. It was killing me when I watched last night; I felt like I had seen her somewhere else. I just ripped through Rome a month ago.
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I liked seeing how Ben was a prissy high school teacher in the alternate universe, but I'm still feeling like the alternate universe is pretty much a waste.
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At least the alternate universe stuff isn't nearly as bad as the flashbacks from season 3. Man, those were fucking excruciating.
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I liked seeing how Ben was a prissy high school teacher in the alternate universe, but I'm still feeling like the alternate universe is pretty much a waste.
Yeah, they keep showing these "side flashes", but I can't help but think it's all just a "what if?" thing and nothing tangible will come out of it.
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Maybe in this universe they get along now? or he was crippled in some other way.
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The numbers explanation was definitely pretty weak and does nothing to actually explain their power (Leonard going crazy, Hurley winning the lottery). But at least it was something.
I was really hoping they were going to bring up the black and white stones that Jack finds on Adam and Eve in Season 1. I saw the stones on the scale in the cave and I was like I'VE BEEN WAITING 6 FUCKING YEARS PLEASE GOD and nada.
Explain the fucking stones, why Adam and Eve had them and who the fuck they were.
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Also, fuck the mysterious kid who showed up in this episode, every new character this season has blown so far.
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yeah, who the fuck was that? and was he talking about sawyer or jacob (sayid?) or richard?
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I think the kid might be Jacob.
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So if Locke is crippled, why the fuck did she want to invite his dad to the wedding.
Also the number explanation is a total throw away.
They're pushing this whole THEIR LIVES ARE VERY DIFFERENT BUT KINDA THE SAME IN THIS REALITY thing way hard, so I just figure that maybe someone else shoved him out of a window or something.
and
Yes, but it was still a step toward closure. I was starting to think they were gonna ignore them entirely
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Y'know, they never did bother to explain Walt's powers yet, or why pregnant women can't have babies on the island after the incident, or the magical box, or dead people visiting hurley, or the giant hurley bird, or the psychic getting all freaked out about aaron and then later the psychic claiming he was a big fat liar. It would be hilarious if the last episode just has an hour long monolouge trying to plug up all the unnecessary plot devices they have created.
I really miss season one.
edit: I think Walt pisses me off the most. Especially since they like to have him cameo at least once a season with no further explanation to what the fuck was his deal in the first place.
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If you're really anal just read this
http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Unanswered_questions
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* Where did the nickname "Hurley" come from?
* Did Hurley cause the collapsing deck accident, or would it have happened anyway? ("Dave")
* What caused the bad luck surrounding Hurley and Sam Toomey? Is there really a curse? ("Numbers")
1. its a nickname, both names start with H, etc. nothing special
2. Yes he is a fatass after all. But if 2-3 more people had stepped onto that deck it would have collapsed anyway.
3. Theyve gone over this sorta. Episode where they try to start the dharma van by driving down the hill. It was all in how he perceived things.
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http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Mystery
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Awesome episode.
I'm still not totally happy with the idea that the guy talking to Jacob on the beach in the old ages is the smoke monster who has now taken over Locke's body. I mean, if that were the case, why did he turn into a smoke monster in the first place, whereas Jacob always maintained the same physical appearance.
Main mysteries I want explaining:
1. What is the massive energy underneath the island?
2. Who the fuck is Richard? Where's he from originally? Surely he dates back to the same time period as Jacob.
2. Richard was a slave on the Black Rock. The bigger question is why does he not age, since it's clear that he isn't on the same level as Jacob and Fake-Locke.
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Awesome episode.
I'm still not totally happy with the idea that the guy talking to Jacob on the beach in the old ages is the smoke monster who has now taken over Locke's body. I mean, if that were the case, why did he turn into a smoke monster in the first place, whereas Jacob always maintained the same physical appearance.
Main mysteries I want explaining:
1. What is the massive energy underneath the island?
2. Who the fuck is Richard? Where's he from originally? Surely he dates back to the same time period as Jacob.
2. Richard was a slave on the Black Rock. The bigger question is why does he not age, since it's clear that he isn't on the same level as Jacob and Fake-Locke.
Has anyone been shown to age on the island? Or at least, has anyone been shown to age after attaining adulthood?
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Awesome episode.
I'm still not totally happy with the idea that the guy talking to Jacob on the beach in the old ages is the smoke monster who has now taken over Locke's body. I mean, if that were the case, why did he turn into a smoke monster in the first place, whereas Jacob always maintained the same physical appearance.
Main mysteries I want explaining:
1. What is the massive energy underneath the island?
2. Who the fuck is Richard? Where's he from originally? Surely he dates back to the same time period as Jacob.
2. Richard was a slave on the Black Rock. The bigger question is why does he not age, since it's clear that he isn't on the same level as Jacob and Fake-Locke.
Has anyone been shown to age on the island? Or at least, has anyone been shown to age after attaining adulthood?
Ben aged during his time on the island.
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Awesome episode.
I'm still not totally happy with the idea that the guy talking to Jacob on the beach in the old ages is the smoke monster who has now taken over Locke's body. I mean, if that were the case, why did he turn into a smoke monster in the first place, whereas Jacob always maintained the same physical appearance.
Main mysteries I want explaining:
1. What is the massive energy underneath the island?
2. Who the fuck is Richard? Where's he from originally? Surely he dates back to the same time period as Jacob.
2. Richard was a slave on the Black Rock. The bigger question is why does he not age, since it's clear that he isn't on the same level as Jacob and Fake-Locke.
Has anyone been shown to age on the island? Or at least, has anyone been shown to age after attaining adulthood?
Ben aged during his time on the island.
It would be a great way to write off Walt's growth spurt!
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the ability to not age is doled out by jacob iirc
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I always figured that the non-aging, cancer curing, paralysis reversing, addiction nullifying, non baby having aspects of the show are all tied together under one tenet.
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Awesome episode.
I'm still not totally happy with the idea that the guy talking to Jacob on the beach in the old ages is the smoke monster who has now taken over Locke's body. I mean, if that were the case, why did he turn into a smoke monster in the first place, whereas Jacob always maintained the same physical appearance.
Main mysteries I want explaining:
1. What is the massive energy underneath the island?
2. Who the fuck is Richard? Where's he from originally? Surely he dates back to the same time period as Jacob.
2. Richard was a slave on the Black Rock. The bigger question is why does he not age, since it's clear that he isn't on the same level as Jacob and Fake-Locke.
There's no proof about Richard being a slave on the Black Rock yet.
'It's nice to see you out of those chains'
or was it
'I'm not used to seeing you out of those chains'?
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Yeah, Fake-Locke confirmed it.
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BUMP NICCAS GET YOUR DICKUSES OUT LETS DO THIS
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I wrote this for you, demi. (http://hollywoodsellouts.com/2010/02/23/predict-how-angry-tonights-episode-of-lost-will-make-me.aspx)
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WOW WILL HATES LOST
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How'd you know I commented then? HUH
MYSTERY OF THE ISLAND
OH MOTHERFUCKING STEALTH EDIT
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Uh, ok Cajole.
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:lol
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This episode is like porn. Fucking Hurley... my lord, let me praise you
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mmm dirty insane Claire
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Yeah, dirty hobo Claire is pretty hot.
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god you can see the curves and the baggage and everything oh god
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Jack is just another person sick of LOST's bullshit.
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oh my god that oh my god
let's recap
* shot of hurley bent over
* then arched back
* sweaty
* grunting and tugging the chain
you can understand why Jack was so frustrated
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:lol
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I didn't hate this episode.
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Another episode where literally nothing happened except some sentimental father/son Disney bullshit.
I love the promo for next week, "We can't show you anything, but we promise questions will be answered!" :lol
I THOUGHT THE TIME FOR QUESTIONS WAS OVER?!
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boring episode. but hey. next week apparently questions will be answered.
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They dont need to answer anything as long as it means more Hurley
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boring episode. but hey. next week apparently questions will be answered.
bu bu bu bu THE TIME FOR QUESTIONS IS OVER
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question: who cares about jack?
question: who cares about claire?
question: who cares about jack's son?
next week, all these questions answered and more.
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how many episodes are left now? 13?
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Great episode, I'm glad they were able to devote nearly 30 minutes to Jack's son that he doesn't even really have. ::)
Only good part was Hurley speculating that they time travel back to dinosaur times and the skeletons are really theirs.
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how many episodes are left now? 13?
HEY TIME FOR QUESTIONS IS OVER MAN
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I like how they spent the entirety of the episode going to a damn lighthouse which wasn't even integral to the plot. Lost seriously has to have one of the worst writing bullpens working in television.
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how many episodes are left now? 13?
8
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how many episodes are left now? 13?
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Really??? There is no fucking way this shit is going to wrap up in any sort of satisfying fashion.
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I felt that was evident a couple of episodes ago.
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Or seasons.
But fucking wow.
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it was evident back in season 4
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how many episodes are left now? 13?
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There's 18 episodes this season, there's still 13 left.
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I think my theory holds up. The MiB and Jacob both have separate canidate lists. The "Shepard" in the cave is probably Claire, "Jarrah" is infected, "Kwon" is in the captivity of the MiB, and "Ford" is also on Team smokey. That just leaves "Reyes" whereas we are shocked by some silly plot twist.
Kate and Jack are on Jacob's side, possibly Sun. Wouldn't be surprised to see Desmond and Walt on his list too.
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Hey guys, next week, QUESTIONS.WILL.BE.ANSWERED. :teehee
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each episode of this last season just exposes a little bit more of the fact that they really only had the sketchiest of ideas where they were going with all this
13 more episodes, i'll wager 11 of those will be the same 40 minutes of meandering bullshit with 5 minutes of dangling fan service sprinkled here and there, while what you really waited around for all these years will be rushed and crammed into the final two hours
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I love it:
"What is that?"
"It's a lighthouse."
"Why haven't we seen it before?"
"Maybe because we weren't looking for it..."
That'd be the writing staff saying, "Hey continuity, FUCK YOU!" :lol
I'm still hooked on this damn show though...
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I think 13x45min is plenty of time to wrap things up. As long as they don't bullshit it all to hell.
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I'm hoping they end with some catastrophic (for the fans) ending, like the Dark Tower series (just to experience the fallout).
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I think 13x45min is plenty of time to wrap things up. As long as they don't bullshit it all to hell.
:rofl
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I think 13x45min is plenty of time to wrap things up. As long as they don't bullshit it all to hell.
:rofl
I liked this episode, so shut up.
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I think 13x45min is plenty of time to wrap things up. As long as they don't bullshit it all to hell.
:rofl
I liked this episode, so shut up.
It was okay, but do we really need so much time spent on Jack's fake son and his non-existent daddy issues?
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yeah, you could probably cut him some slack if he were in his teens or twenties and still whining about how his dad did a number on him, but the guy is over forty so he should probably just, you know, man up
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I dunno, it seems like the majority of complaints for the final season is...that it's the same show it's been every other season. Part of the problem has been the advertising, but it's also strange to imagine the type of show the dissatisfied viewers would like to be watching. What mystery novel or film require an entire 1/6th of its narrative to reveal its mystery?
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I think 13x45min is plenty of time to wrap things up. As long as they don't bullshit it all to hell.
:rofl
I liked this episode, so shut up.
It was okay, but do we really need so much time spent on Jack's fake son and his non-existent daddy issues?
Did you forget when Juliet said "It worked"? As people on gaf have pointed out, the wheel is 360 degrees, I'm guessing the mirror can look at the other reality.
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more hurley talk please
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Hurley's character is played out. Fuck shoehorned comic reliefs.
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i think he's one of the central characters of the show, imo.
but tell me about yourself
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Do they even write dialog for Hurley? Its like they tell him the point behind the scene, how to get from A to B and let him loose.
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Hurley is my favorite thing about the "X" timeline.
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I think my theory holds up. The MiB and Jacob both have separate canidate lists. The "Shepard" in the cave is probably Claire, "Jarrah" is infected, "Kwon" is in the captivity of the MiB, and "Ford" is also on Team smokey. That just leaves "Reyes" whereas we are shocked by some silly plot twist.
Kate and Jack are on Jacob's side, possibly Sun. Wouldn't be surprised to see Desmond and Walt on his list too.
Shepard in the cave is Jack as Lock-ness said that Jacob wrote those names.
And Claire confirmed that Christian Shepard was smokey. That also means that when Walt appeared to Locke it was probably Smokey.
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So basically the solved any problem with characters randomly appearing by saying it's the smoke monster.
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"Why don't YOU go back to the courtyard?"
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I think Claire is more freaked out based on the fact that she was already unstable, she was apparently captured and tortured like Sayid, unlike Rousseau she spent more time with Aaron (Rousseau said Alex was taken on the first night), she's being guided by smokey and she had already been kidnapped and held by the others before. She's just been through a lot more (that we know of) than Rousseau at this point in less than 3 years.
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But in the end, all I am really bothered about is, where the fuck is Desmond?
No idea. Maybe he only signed up for the one episode? The producers already admitted to having to specially write some storylines for actors/actresses that wouldn't come back for the final season ( i.e. Shannon :'( ).
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Shannon is still going to show up later in the season.
The only Season One cast member who isn't in this season is Walt.
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Shannon is still going to show up later in the season.
The only Season One cast member who isn't in this season is Walt.
I could have swore the producers were on Jimmy Kimmel Live and said they couldn't get her back...
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Shannon is still going to show up later in the season.
The only Season One cast member who isn't in this season is Walt.
I could have swore the producers were on Jimmy Kimmel Live and said they couldn't get her back...
Lost's Sayid (Naveen Andrews) may be in for a couple difficult talks — not one, but two of his former lovers are returning to the show. Both Shannon (Maggie Grace), his dead island girlfriend, and Nadia (Andrea Gabriel), his dead off-island wife, will return in the final season.
Production on several films initially kept Grace from reprising her role as Shannon, Boone's stepsister who was killed by Ana Lucia in Season 2. "We're really excited about having her back on the show," executive producer Carlton Cuse told Entertainment Weekly, "and we have a good story for her."
Nadia also was murdered — her life taken by one of Charles Widmore's assassins, who ran her over in a crosswalk as Sayid helplessly looked on.
Reps for the ABC series would not comment to TVGuide.com on when Grace and Gabriel will return, how long they'll appear on the show or whether either will suck face with Sayid.
Libby (Cynthia Watros), Michael (Harold Perrineau), Charlotte (Rebecca Mader) and Daniel Faraday (Jeremy Davies) are among the other departed characters we'll see again in the final season of Lost.
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how many episodes are left now? 13?
Yes, there are 13 episodes left. 11 if you count the 3 hour finale as one episode.
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i hate when the show names episodes after things in the episodes like it was important or relevant. the light house was introduced and removed from the fiction in no more than 5 minutes. just like that one episode about the dude who tortured sayid. he was on screen for 5 minutes! and he didn't even do anything that mattered!
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I don't understand the Clarie infected thing. Are they implying that Rousseau was infected? Because from the flashbacks it seems like she just went fuck crazy when her team were infected. This is in contrast to Claire, who is supposedly infected (but definitely fuck crazy).
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I don't understand the Clarie infected thing. Are they implying that Rousseau was infected? Because from the flashbacks it seems like she just went fuck crazy when her team were infected. This is in contrast to Claire, who is supposedly infected (but definitely fuck crazy).
Rousseau thought others were infected when apparently she was the one infected. We really only saw short bursts of Rousseau becoming fuck crazy so who knows.
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I think Rousseau just went run-of-the-mill crazy.
The last scene with Claire (I think) was her chilling with her dad Christian in the cabin acting all funny and not herself - don't think anything comparable happened to Rousseau
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But there is tons we didn't see about Rousseau. And she was always talking about some infection. She was babbling the same way about her child. All the signs point to her becoming nutty the same way.
The ominous music and "where's my baby?! where's aaron!?" are clearly references to Rousseau and her nuttiness.
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That would explain why Widmore wanted Ben to kill her...but it doesn't explain why she just seemed run-of-the-mill crazy after she hooked up with Losties right before she was killed.
The temple dude wanted to kill her (Claire) as if she was some kind of threat to them. - which obviously she is if Fake Locke is her "friend". But Rousseau just seemed harmless and sad...I actually felt sorry for Rousseau, but Claire seems like a real threat.
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Lol at Jack's son and the lighthouse. Where did they come from?
I'm starting to hate this show.
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That would explain why Widmore wanted Ben to kill her...but it doesn't explain why she just seemed run-of-the-mill crazy after she hooked up with Losties right before she was killed.
The temple dude wanted to kill her (Claire) as if she was some kind of threat to them. - which obviously she is if Fake Locke is her "friend". But Rousseau just seemed harmless and sad...I actually felt sorry for Rousseau, but Claire seems like a real threat.
Rousseau probably just had no real use to smokey so maybe she got "infected" and she was just known as that crazy bitch out in the woods. Ben didn't want to kill her because of the whole mother of my child thing and the smoke monster just didn't care. We're talking about this not knowing what Claire's role really is in all of this. She was obviously important.
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''first my father told me, then my friend told me.''
''who's your friend?''
....
''my friend''
that and an incredibly forgettable performance by that clair lady.
please turn out to be fucking amazing in the second half like s3. :(
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the friend was Locke it was revealed like 20 minutes later smh
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I think he's just complaining about how horribly cheesy it came off.
she reminded me of a little kid with her stupid smile and shit.
"who's your friend?"
"my friend!"
sounds like something my daughter would say
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I read that Roussau was supposed to survive up to this point, but quit around the time she died, which is why Claire got swapped in place and now its all hokey
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fuck you, demi. Claire is not hokey. she's going to get fucked sideways and you're going to watch dem titties bounce.
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So I just read that in the Bible Jacob's 12th son was called Benjamin, and the mother died during childbirth. Fancy that.
There are tons of Bliblical references in the series and season six is really starting to fan the theory that the island is the Garden of Eden and Jacob and Lock-ness are the two angels left behind to protect it, and obviously one went crazy nuts at some point.
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Yeah, fucking Jacob is out of control.
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fuck you, demi. Claire is not hokey. she's going to get fucked sideways and you're going to watch dem titties bounce.
Regardless of who you are fucking, I would probably fap to it. I love that amateur shit.
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Just finished Lighthouse. Great episode, and certainly felt "old school" as Hurley said lol. Last two episodes have been great, I'm finally excited.
I'm wondering whether Jacob and Fake Locke had different candidate lists, or are they going after the exact same people. And if this is just a game to get off the island, with Fake Locke picking Sawyer to replace him and Jacob picking Jack
also I wonder if Jack has a different wife
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I don't recall them ever saying that the Locke-ness Monster had a candidate list. It was all Jacob.
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I don't recall them ever saying that the Locke-ness Monster had a candidate list. It was all Jacob.
It is implied that the cave is perhaps Locke's own list for erasing Jacob's candidates. That is why he killed Eko, Nikki & Paulo, etc.
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I don't recall them ever saying that the Locke-ness Monster had a candidate list. It was all Jacob.
It is implied that the cave is perhaps Locke's own list for erasing Jacob's candidates. That is why he killed Eko, Nikki & Paulo, etc.
In the episode he said that Jacob wrote the names and died the day before.
Sawyer: Who wrote these names?
Locke: His name was Jacob. He died yesterday.
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And you DONT think he's lying? At all?
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I don't recall them ever saying that the Locke-ness Monster had a candidate list. It was all Jacob.
It is implied that the cave is perhaps Locke's own list for erasing Jacob's candidates. That is why he killed Eko, Nikki & Paulo, etc.
In the episode he said that Jacob wrote the names and died the day before.
Sawyer: Who wrote these names?
Locke: His name was Jacob. He died yesterday.
Yeah, I like the idea it was actually the smoke monster who wrote it. The names were written pretty chaotically which is unlike all the imagery that has been associated with Jacob so far.
Also, the new lost thread on gaf was so awesome (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=389045). Too bad Duckroll locked it.
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Apparently this ep is pretty beefy with mythos / answers
* ok maybe not answers. give and take.
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(http://scifiwire.com/pics/Lost_Simpsons_fanart.jpg)
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Nice pic, Manabyte.
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At this point I really feel like my mind has been totally raped by this show, much more so than the first few seasons. Although I feel like I can start piecing shit together at this point, which is finally relieving any stress the end of season five brought.
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This episoe is fucking awesome so far. :canadian
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Yeah, ABC hyped the hell out of this one.
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Holy shit that was really great.
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Hey did they air a Battlefield commercial during it? Just curious.
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did other things during the commercials sorry
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lol, Sayid fucking shit up
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ok that was pretty awesome
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it's gonna end up being Team Locke (man in black) vs. Team Jack (jacob), isn't it?
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That ep was HOT
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it's gonna end up being Team Locke (man in black) vs. Team Jack (jacob), isn't it?
It's always been that, hasn't it? I appreciate that.
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they keep hinting that things are a little more ambiguous than being simply good vs. evil (jacob's "bargains"), but i know that's all it will boil down to in the end, and we know who'll "win," and i hate jack, so i can go ahead and make an educated guess i will hate the end of this show
this ep was pretty badass, though
spoiler (click to show/hide)
sayid punked keamy hard :lol
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:lol
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What Sayid did is tantamount to listening to an average girl spill her heart out just so you can ask her if her hot friend has a boyfriend... or something. He just let that shit stew.
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He just did what many of us wanted. LOST listening to the fans :bow
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Awesome episode, haters owned.
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they keep hinting that things are a little more ambiguous than being simply good vs. evil (jacob's "bargains"), but i know that's all it will boil down to in the end, and we know who'll "win," and i hate jack, so i can go ahead and make an educated guess i will hate the end of this show
It looks like the terms will be: Join team Locke and live a normal life (in the parallel timeline), or join team Jacob and sacrifice your life for something akin to the greater good. Pretty hard choice imo, depending on what's at stake in the sacrifice.
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This was the first episode of Lost in awhile that didn't make me angry.
... Except the fact that the episode ran longer than what the DVR recorded, so I didn't get to see the end (I saw where Kate, Sayid and Claire were walking out and then it just STOPPED) or the preview. Did I miss anything?
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Not really, Locke does some smug look when he notices Kate and they all walk off.
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That's kind of stupid. How is Kate on Evil Locke's side? It was just kind of an accident that she was there, she didn't actively join him.
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I dont think shes on his side. She still wants to talk to Claire I imagine.
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If she's not on Evil Locke's side, then Evil Locke should kill that bitch.
Also, while slightly entertaining because it progressed the episode forward (an unusual direction for Lost!), Sayid's fall to the Dark Side was pretty rapid. He managed to go from a pretty decent guy to PURE EVIL in about fifteen minutes. We're talking Anakin/Episode III-like transformation. He was one scene away from raping teenage girls and then chopping their heads off.
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he be "infected" yo
whatever that means.
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Sayid is going to turn 180 and be the hero.
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There's like a ton of spoilers out there if you're wondering what happens later on in the season.
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HE'S INFECTED
INFECTED WITH WHAT
THE DARK SIDE
O THAT MAKES SENSE
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think about where sayid dumped the bodies
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think about where sayid dumped the bodies
My thoughts exactly.
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i was drunk for this episode and IT FUCKING RULED hatwers hate yo
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the shot at the end was pretty bad ass.
episode overall was ok. decent 7/10
this season has been kinda disappointing to be honest. only one really awesome episode and the rest are just slumming it up with the typical lost routines. not really the EPIC ANSWER ANSWERS ANSWERS i was expecting.
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:bow sayid :bow2
terrific episode.
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bump for LOST baby
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bump for it being nine o clock
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ALEX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :omg :heartbeat :heartbeat :heartbeat
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i wanna flash sideways right into alex's tight little pants
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pretty sure i know who the principal is gonna be
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we've already seen the principal.
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:lol i missed the first few minutes derp derp
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That was like a Matrix moment.
"He is beginning to believe..."
"He is the one"
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and now, team jack is forming
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best episode of the season so far. g'damn
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It's certainly the only one that's resonated emotionally AT ALL with me.
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good ep, not much jack
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Jack was AWESOME in this ep. Hurley still sexy, more sweaty. Ben's monologue was ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ, how do you get emotional with a two faced scrub like that.
Widmore was awesome, and you know Desmond is on that sub too.
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jack is the perfect hero for this generation
whiny, self-absorbed, more daddy issues than a greek tragedy, acts on impulse and never listens to reason, soaks his personal failures in drugs and alcohol, stalker
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:rofl
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Ben Linus will be the real hero at the end of the day.
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You forgot his deliciously cute sidekick
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Ray Arzt: "Principal Dickless here was screwing the school nurse"
Superintendent of Schools: "Is this true?"
Ben Venkman: "Yes, it's true. The Principal has no dick."
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Yeah, is it me, or has Walter Peck gotten bulkier in his old age? And not like fat, but he's barrel-chested guy now. I remember him as a lanky fuck.
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yeah, he's turned into a solid looking dude, if i were a casting agent i would put him up for some "weary, grizzled detective" parts or some 50s period flicks as a heavy
he's got kind of a bulldog jaw going now and looks like he's been in some scraps
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WORKING ON IT
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god that episode was great.
Emerson being awesome. Bout time because his character was in a serious rut.
Jack finally growing some balls and doing something interesting (that lunatic smile was so awesome)
ALEX!!!!!!!!!! Tania Raymonde in tight clothes and a backpack, bonerocalypse
Illana. I like her character. and she's hot too.
A+ episode. Season needs more of these.
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Groo, next week's episode is a
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Richard
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actually i'm pretty sure it's a
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sawyer episode. The Richard episode is the week after
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Yeah, it's Sawyer
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I kept saying last night that if they kill of Richard and Ben in the same episode I was done with the show. Hell, if they killed off just Ben I'd be done with the show. I don't care about the 8 remaining episodes or whatever!
Thankfully they didn't and I can continue watching.
Empty hypothetical threads ftw.
BTW, has anyone made a .gif of Ben right when he takes off into the jungle? It was hysterical.
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^ looool that scene was too funny. Nice JOGGING you guys.
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It was the tossing away of the makeshift shovel that really sealed the deal.
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:lol Yep. Made it look like a cartoon. They should have added in the "pshew" sound when he took off too just as a nice fan service.
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I do like this though.
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Season has been completely awesome. You kind of have to buy into the idea that the show is crazier and more silly than ever now, but once you do, its very rewarding. Emerson killed this last episode. I think O'Quinn and him are probably both going to get Emmy noms again.
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If she's not on Evil Locke's side, then Evil Locke should kill that bitch.
Smokey can't kill candidates, yo. Or at least thats my thought.
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So far:
LAX - good
What Kate Does - crap
The Substitute - Great
Lighthouse - decent
Sundown - decent
Dr. Linus - GREAT
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Just watched it (Canada and early start times FTW) - unfortunately, its the most disappointing episode of the year so far (no one expected the Kate episode to know our socks off), and only the Kate episode is worse. The off island stuff amounts to mostly random cameos mixed in with a few nuggets of good Sawyer stuff, and the on island stuff is just set up for things to come. Both from a character and a plot perspective, this episode doesnt really progress things a whole lot.
Anyone here who posts at Lost-GAF can copy and paste that over in the episode thread if they want.
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Fuck you gaftard
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So far:
LAX - good
What Kate Does - crap
The Substitute - Great
Lighthouse - decent
Sundown - decent
Dr. Linus - GREAT
That's about where I am. Kate episode was just awful, most of the others are pretty decent, with this latest episode being really good.
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Fuck you gaftard
I wuv you too demi!
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Probably the best moment of the season...
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Keamy is Little John in the upcoming Ridley Scott Robin Hood movie :lol
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Best moment was sweaty lighthouse hurley
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If the final episode of Lost builds up to a climax where Hurley takes his shirt off, would you be satisfied with that conclusion, demi?
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Best moment is Jack and Locke having a conversation without trying to kill eachother.
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Best moment was sweaty lighthouse hurley
That beat out Hurley running in slow-motion from the last episode?
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How many times did demi rub it out to Hurley's slo mo cannonball from S4?
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If the final episode of Lost builds up to a climax where Hurley takes his shirt off, would you be satisfied with that conclusion, demi?
Yes
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How many times did demi rub it out to Hurley's slo mo cannonball from S4?
I also liked the golf scene from S1 where he does the hula hoop and dat stomach pops out
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a cop? how dumb
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Solo pwned. Episode is amazing. Claire ownage
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Watching Sundown. This Japanese dude is one of the absolute worst and most generic characters introduced to the series. It's like they created the most cliche character to introduce a continuation of the worst tricks in Lost. His dialogue is horrible, and I just saw that fight with Sayid. Seriously?
"it would be best if you die" :lol
edit: this episode is horrible
"you must kill him. if he speaks before, it's already to late"
:rofl
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Sundown :bow
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I'm assuming they thought if we need a temporary character spouting ridiculous shit that getting a non-english speaker would mask it a little bit...instead I found it made Dogen twice as worse.
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Kimey :bow
Why isn't that dude a big action star smh. He's awesome
edit: ending was cool but that was a bad episode.
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Sorry PD, majority rules. Wrong again
Sundown is top tier
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Dont worry PD, Dr Linus is much better.
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I'm serious guys, that was a legitimately average to bad episode. They continue to rehash some of the worst cliches of the show ("what if I told you you could have whatever you wanted if you followed me lol") and they've magnified it by introducing one of the cheesiest characters in show history.
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Granted I'm glad he died, but how many times have we seen the old "what have you done?!?!?! you've killed us all!!!" bit. I'm glad the show is finally done with the temple, it really provided the worst episodes of the season.
I liked the end of the Sayid alternative flash. It was hard getting too excited about John wrecking shit, considering it was started by him manipulating Sayid in such a cliched manner. That used to be Ben's game, and at the time it was cool. It sucks because I've liked Sayid for a long time, but I can't say I like this path he's going down.
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Just watch Dr Linus
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:bow Top Tier :bow2
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Yeah, Dr. Linus is really great.
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Next weeks ep. is going to be off the chain.
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Dr. Linus is the boring one. Even Recon is better
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wrong. dr. linus has alex in tight jeans :drool
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wrong. dr. linus has alex in tight jeans :drool
:hyper
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Recon was garbage. Smokey has mommy issues? Really?
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Recon was garbage. Smokey has mommy issues? Really?
He's manipulating Kate. We dont know his story yet man.
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Not the biggest fan of this week's episode. Mostly slow, boring, and uneventful...
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Should be no surprise that the Locke and Ben episodes are the season's best so far.
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So next week we learn about Mr. Mascara?
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my rating:
lax - 6.5/10
what kate does - smh
the substitute - 5.5/10
lighthouse - 5/10
sundown - 10/10. :bow naveen andrews :bow2
dr. linus - 9/10
recon - 6/10
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So next week we learn about Mr. Mascara?
Finally. At least it's guaranteed good.
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i liked recon, but i like sawyer and miles
someone at gaf said they should do a buddy-cop show spinoff with them and i thought "you know, i would totally watch that."
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i liked recon, but i like sawyer and miles
someone at gaf said they should do a buddy-cop show spinoff with them and i thought "you know, i would totally watch that."
Sawyer sexing up chicks then kicking them out at 3am, Miles saying stuff like "You're way out of line! Next time they're gonna have your badge!" :rock
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So far Dr. Linus isn't good either.
edit: some great Ben scenes/moments made up for some of the worse aspects of things. It really seems like the writers are on full rehash mode. While that last beach scene was nice, how many times have we seen it before. Or the whole "follow me and you'll get what you want lol" bit.
I'm losing interest in this show.
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I told you Dr. Linus was poop
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If Dr Linus is poop, then Recon is the bacteria in the poop. And the poop is from Nick Frost's ass.
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And you EAT that shit cause you LIKE IT
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I agree, Dr Linus is some good shit
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Wouldn't say it was poop, but it was just another lackluster episode. I thought the season really picked up with The Substitute and Lighthouse, but since then it's gotten back to the disappointing nature of the first few episodes.
I can't help but watch this thinking "I've seen this before" constantly, and the attempts at creating intrigue or mystery are so stale I find myself losing interest.
The alternative flashes reek of pure fanfic.
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Fellow canucks: episode is on in 1 hour
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ep was okay.
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Tonight's a Richard-centric episode. Gonna be instant god tier. :rock
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Awesome episode. Ive only enjoyed the Ben and Locke episodes more this season. Lots of great scenes with MIB, confirmation of several longstanding theories, some great character scenes and heaps of mythology. All the things a classic episode of LOST should be.
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Chipopo, you can be my voice at GAF again this week :lol
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Chipopo, you can be my voice at GAF again this week :lol
No sweat man, I'll take care of you.
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:lol :lol
By the way, who knew Nestor Carbonell could actually act?
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:lol :lol
By the way, who knew Nestor Carbonell could actually act?
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:bow BatManuel :bow2
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Beats Italian Spider-Man!
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Damn, that was fucked up.
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My portly spaniard :heartbeat
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Hurley kills it this episode.
I can't believe Hurley is my favorite thing about season 6. smh.
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lol the closeup of richard's eye
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best episode of the season. reminds me of a season 1 episode.
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Jacob doin thangs
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that wasn't very jacob like.
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Yep, that's a god tier ep
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Thumbs up. Holy jesus.
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I like that they chose to portray the feisty side of Jacob.
'Like dude where the hell do you're going with THAT, c'mere'
So I'm guessing if you went through the entire series and took note of all the times smokey has stopped short of killing someone, he was considering using them to kill Jacob. This includes Locke and Ekco, although it also means he was considering Juliet at some point :/
It also seems like Jacob knows he has a job to do but nevertheless feels some compassion for the MiB. If we're trusting what the guy said to kate last episode, it seems he may have wound up as the big bad wolf after going through 'growing pains'.
hmmmm. show is getting kind of magical, not sure if I like that.
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getting? we've been in fantasy land for quite some time.
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getting? we've been in fantasy land for quite some time.
But the naive part of me thought they would jerryrig some scientific explanation to it all eventually :'(
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yea I'd be a bit dissapointed if they didn't take a stab at giving a pseudo-scientific explanation for what's happening, even just as a formality.
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I think 'then he'll step in' was a very good point Ricardus made in this episode. How's anyone supposed to prove themself if a giant cloud comes and kills everyone within minutes. The only people who get spared are the ones smokey is trying to use for the loophole because he feels like they have an exploitable set of emotions.
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I like how that had never occurred to Jacob before. "Ohhh, so that's why they all end up dead."
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I always thought Richard was underutilized. Loved last nights episode.
On another note, they make Jacob look aloof to certain things. They make him out to be all knowing but there's others aspects where he's all :derp
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There's an entire episode dedicated to Jacob / Black Man flashback history
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There's an entire episode dedicated to Jacob / Black Man flashback history
I can't wait for that :bow
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Jacob is a fucking dick.
He brings suckers to the island and makes them play Job in some goofball game he's playing with the MiB. By his own admission, they all die. So he just brings more. Dude is a serial killer. He's going to need a pretty noble end to justify those means.
I think Sawyer has the right idea. Fuck them both, let them rot on the island.
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I think that's the whole basis and has been for quite some time.
Since the beginning where they showed that everyone on there has a dark past but they're not bad people, etc. It's always been showing that nothing is black and white. Jacob is supposed to be good and man in black is supposed to be bad. But it's not always that easy or clear cut. Jacob is just as big of a manipulator and he ruins just as many lives. They both just go about it in different ways. Man in black straight up lies to manipulate.
I liked how he told Richard stab him in the heart with this. if he speaks, it's already too late. I was like daaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn. little Jap man was so unoriginal.
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Some pretty shitty writing in last night's episode, and the show is going down the path of pulling the "God" card that made so many Battlestar Galactica fans upset.
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Remember in Season 3 when Locke's dad said the island was hell? :teehee So clever :teehee
I don't mind the writing. It's never really been spectacular. Watching the first couple of seasons with my friends we played the game of guessing what the character would say. Most of it is pretty damn predictable. It's the few points where they nail atmosphere, character development, mythology and twists that make the show for me. And last night they nailed it for me. Amazing episode.
And who really hadn't pondered the God path with this show? Especially since we discovered Jacob was real.
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This show never started out on that path, and has always maintained a pseudo-science theme. There was a mystical element to the show, but within the past season it has nose dived into Carnivale on an island. It's pretty distinguished mentally-challenged too.
At least Ron Moore had the decency to embed Battlestar Galactica with all his religious hocus pocus from day one.
... what character development occurred last night, other than making Jacob from unlikeable to completely unlikeable?
What a sad end for this show, but I feel pretty confident that this will devolve into the train wreck I wanted to see.
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Last night's episode was pretty awesome. :rock
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The only thing I didn't like was the need to explain how the statue was smashed and how they explained it. They show the ship crashing into its face which would mean the island would almost be submersed. I don't know :derp
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The only thing I didn't like was the need to explain how the statue was smashed and how they explained it. They show the ship crashing into its face which would mean the island would almost be submersed. I don't know :derp
They also had to explain how the black rock got so far inland.
This show never started out on that path, and has always maintained a pseudo-science theme. There was a mystical element to the show, but within the past season it has nose dived into Carnivale on an island. It's pretty distinguished mentally-challenged too.
At least Ron Moore had the decency to embed Battlestar Galactica with all his religious hocus pocus from day one.
... what character development occurred last night, other than making Jacob from unlikeable to completely unlikeable?
What a sad end for this show, but I feel pretty confident that this will devolve into the train wreck I wanted to see.
I dunno, man. It always seemed to be a battle on whether there was a scientific explanation or if it was in fact mystical. That fits with the whole man of science, man of faith theme the show has been playing for so long. Some things have had scientific explanations, but most everything has really been pushed by the mystical shit. No big questions in the show have ever had a scientific explanation.
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Nah. It's all a dream. Or this is a scientific experiment on mind control. Or a scientific experiment on virtual reality or something. Jack and them are all stuck in a lab.
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They also had to explain how the black rock got so far inland.
Q: How did the Black Rock make it so far inland?
A: Really big wave.
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No big questions in the show have ever had a scientific explanation.
No big questions in the show have ever had an explanation, period.
But to say that is not implied from the writers that the overarching mystery that defines the show is not fueled by pseudo-science is burying your head in the sand. This show is so out of touch at this point, I can see why it doesn't matter to you though.
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Jacob casted Watera :uguu
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They also had to explain how the black rock got so far inland.
Q: How did the Black Rock make it so far inland?
A: Really big wave.
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Where's that from?
I don't think it's from anywhere. But in the first season when they see the ship someone asks "How did a ship like this get so far on land?" or something like that.
And I don't mind the simple explanation of a big wave. It's the science Will wants! SEE WILL! THEY'RE LISTENING TO YOU!
But really, I didn't expect it to be anything spectacular.
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You's guys want science? I remember reading this theory after listening to some Kate Bush...
http://freaquewaves.blogspot.com/2007/08/ninth-wave-theory.html
Lost writers should tweet about it and then it'll be case closed :smug
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I bet Kate has a huge bush.
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She seems like a flower child so I bet its extra meadow curly, smelling of forgotten storages. I'd still hit it so hard.
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a super fuzzy peach
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Yeah, that Kate and Claire scene with Sayid sitting off to the side was pretty awkward :lol
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Yeah, that Kate and Claire scene with Sayid sitting off to the side was pretty awkward :lol
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Sayid :'(
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Sayid reborn as a sociopath.
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Wait a minute, wasn't Widmore helping Locke get back to the island? Wasn't Locke getting back to the island just a scheme by MiB? Why is Widmore against the MiB now?
These allegiances are so ill defined :dizzy
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We dont even know what Widmore wants. You guys need to stop jumping to conclusions... wait until it plays out at least
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It's so lame what the writers have turned Sayid into. He was such a promising character.
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watching Recon
I was thinking "yawn, this chick is a cop" then she pulls out her gun and holy shit, Sawyer is a cop :lol :bow
edit: Charlotte is so fucking ugly.
edit: episode was alright but felt like filler, and was totally carried by Sawyer. Gotta admit I'm growing tired of Fake Locke. If they're going to throw a bunch of nostalgia at us, why not give us the old Locke jeez.
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It's so lame what the writers have turned Sayid into. He was such a promising character.
I remember feeling way more for him as a character than most of the others combined, during the earlier seasons.
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They are setting Sayid up for some kind of redemption.
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New episode is good so far. Finally some insight into Richard
edit: ffffffuuu the shipwreck/smoke monster omg awesome so far
edit: best episode of the season, and best episode since forever in fact
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AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Desmond :heart
sweet ep.
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Sun was so ridiculously hot this episode. Especially when she's flipping her lid and she walks away all huffy and that tush is switching omg. :drool :drool :drool
edit: boobs and haircut were ace too.
Desmond's back, the endgame starts NOW!
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Decent ep for sure. No surprise at Desmond being on the sub.
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Some Sun boobage this epiosde. :drool
... Also, was Desmond the most predictable entrance ever? :lol
ITS NOT A MATTER OF WHAT BUT WH-
OH ITS DESMOND
YOU DIDN'T LET ME FINIS-
NOPE ITS DEFINITELY DESMOND
NEVERMIND
WELL, WHO IS IT?
IT'S... DESMOND.
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Holy shit. :o
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How valid are any of those? Some sound ridiculous.
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How valid are any of those? Some sound ridiculous.
ABC told the site (LostSpoilers / DocArtz) to take it down
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A long time ago, like back in Season 2, some guy claimed to have seen a MASTER DOCUMENT for the series. He was pretty off on some stuff, but his general theories are dead on. Everyone laughed at him at the time (Especially the idea that Hurley would be the most important character on the show), but maybe he was telling the truth
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srsly dont click if you dont want to know shit. this is meaty shit.
As someone who doesn't mind being spoiled, I salute you sir
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Hurley and Michael ?!?! That makes me really fucking happy, there may be some fucking closure for walt after all
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The Sun boobage was amazing :drool
I wonder how they're going to tie in the whole Desmond thing. I just can't understand how significant he's going to be to the storyline. Nevertheless, I am happy to see him back on the show.
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The Sun boobage was amazing :drool
I wonder how they're going to tie in the whole Desmond thing. I just can't understand how significant he's going to be to the storyline. Nevertheless, I am happy to see him back on the show.
He can see the future, brotha.
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OMG that was an awesome episode. Seeing the Keamy thing from the other side :o
Sun boobage :bow2
Desmond :-*
So where does it go from here?
Desmond is the "package" that will defeat Locke, but he is not even a candidate?
Also, I'm probably a million years late on this, but just realised how closely the name Jack resembles Jacob :lol
Jack's last name is "Shepard"
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bump for pussy rubbing action
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Desmond :rock
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I'm here to save the world, brotha' :swoon :swoon :swoon :swoon :swoon :swoon
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Desmond episode delivers.
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Love the premise here
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Just finished watching. Fucking awesome episode.
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IN MY BUTT, DESMONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNDDDDDDDDDDDDD
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that ep pretty much embodies why people still watch this show.
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I'm a little confused by the ending. Is he going to subject everyone on the plane to near death experiences or put them in an mri?
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Any big reveals? I'm still downloading the episode.
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Any big reveals? I'm still downloading the episode.
It delves into the flash sideways a ton, that's about it
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I think this was a weak ep, as much as I like Desmond.
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I really enjoyed it, brother.
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I really enjoyed it, brother.
In shocking twist, CajoleJuice admits he enjoys sappy, sentimental stuff. :P
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I really enjoyed it, brother.
In shocking twist, CajoleJuice admits he enjoys sappy, sentimental stuff. :P
The end of Armageddon. BRUCE :'(
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yeah, shockingly weak ep, who would've ever thought a sun/jin episode would eclipse a "Desmond gamechanger"
at least it sets up some resolution for the flash-sideways business
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It's like the writers regretted Constant, and so decided to take a big fat shit on Desmond.
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Best ep of the season so far. The show finally gets interesting again...
Season 6 has been pretty weak.
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Awesome episode. Desmond :rock
Gotta admit I was kinda like "omg enough of this flash forward" shit for awhile, then the Charlie/Penny stuff totally blew me away. :bow
Lost is back :bow
24 is back :bow
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best ep of the season tonight
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It's a Hurley episode, demi's pants are probably already off.
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Actually re-watched the Desmond ep and liked it alot more the 2nd time around, it just rubbed me wrong the first time, dunno why.
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okay. So it's not the best ep of the season but its still pretty darn good.
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Just downloaded, will watch immediately.
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demi's fapping too much to post
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Hahaha, Arzt'd
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Good episode.
Ending was :lol
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I liked how I literally thought "Hey, Ilana's not that bad after all" RIGHT before she blew up :lol :lol
Island Desmond better not be dead :(
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Hahaha, Arzt'd
Yeah, who didn't see THAT coming. :lol
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Probably the best episode, next to Sundown
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Haha, that was the greatest death ever. El-oh-el.
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i stand by my thought that the creators secretly hate the character of locke, they have never wasted an opportunity to shit all over him :lol
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Goddamn at the ending! Cross dimensional revenge!
I wonder if desmond became a composite of both desmonds after the last episode.
And then they play that fucking creepy willy wonka song in the preview.
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That shit was hilarious
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i stand by my thought that the creators secretly hate the character of locke, they have never wasted an opportunity to shit all over him :lol
Well he is a man of faith who doesn't listen to reason and is incredibly stubborn.
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cold bloodded
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Love the grin right before.
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i stand by my thought that the creators secretly hate the character of locke, they have never wasted an opportunity to shit all over him :lol
Well he is a man of faith who doesn't listen to reason and is incredibly stubborn.
and yet, he was right all along, while the favored Dr. Whinyputz fucks up or kills everyone he touches
i truly do despise this show - i just have so much time wrapped up in watching it that i have to see it through to the end
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yeah, season 6's writing and dialouge is mediocre. But occassionaly some stupid cunt gets blown up and im all like 'GAW DAM '
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and Locke was never right. Season 5 was all about the long con MiB put on Locke so he could kill jacob. He was manipulated because he wanted to have faith for faith's sake and someone took advantage of that.
Interesting note, the young boy that appeared in this episode had darker hair and was taller than the boy who confronted MiB before. I'm guessing these boys are young jacob and young MiB projecting themselves through time.
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WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WITH THAT DYANMITE
OK SURE, LET ME JUST AGGRESSIVELY SHOVE BOTTLES OF WATER INTO THE SAME BAG AS THE DYNAMITE AND THEN SLAM IT TO THE GROUND. WHOOPS NOW I'M BLOWN UP :(
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Jack :heart
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Locke: "We are here for a reason."
Jack: "Whatever cripple, planes crash all the time, magnets and polar bears and shit whatever, BTW I THINK DADDY MIGHT BE FUCKING MY EX-WIFE BOOHOO GIMME BOOZE 'N' PILLS "
jack is the perfect hero for this generation
whiny, self-absorbed, more daddy issues than a greek tragedy, acts on impulse and never listens to reason, soaks his personal failures in drugs and alcohol, stalker
fuck jack
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WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WITH THAT DYANMITE
OK SURE, LET ME JUST AGGRESSIVELY SHOVE BOTTLES OF WATER INTO THE SAME BAG AS THE DYNAMITE AND THEN SLAM IT TO THE GROUND. WHOOPS NOW I'M BLOWN UP :(
Yeah I noticed that too.
'hey is that the same bag with the dynami...."
'kabllooey'
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Locke: "We are here for a reason."
Jack: "Whatever cripple, planes crash all the time, magnets and polar bears and shit whatever, BTW I THINK DADDY MIGHT BE FUCKING MY EX-WIFE BOOHOO GIMME BOOZE 'N' PILLS "
jack is the perfect hero for this generation
whiny, self-absorbed, more daddy issues than a greek tragedy, acts on impulse and never listens to reason, soaks his personal failures in drugs and alcohol, stalker
fuck jack
Everyone in this show has daddy issues. Locke was right, they were there because someone wanted to USE him for murder, and the other guy wants to play god with peoples lifes. Fuck Locke.
I like locke, just playing.
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they all were there, everyone on the plane, so someone could use him
you should rethink that sentence
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No I'm pretty sure I'm right. Watch season 5 again.
My main point is that from the very beginning of the show, you can chart how MiB was pushing Locke along up to the point where he got killed by ben. A major point that pissed me off at the time was that it was dead Christian that insisted Locke needed to move the island, that he had a job to do,etc.
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everyone has their own reason for being on the island, though, not just so locke could be duped
candidates and all that
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also out of all the predictable plot tricks this show utilizes, the most reliable one is that you can be sure as soon as some new character pops up and starts bossing everyone around they are as good as dead
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Good. The entire show should be Hurley and Jack's fuckfest
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did you come when you saw all those chicken bones
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I didn't appreciate his Gainer ways but that's the Alt reality. It doesnt exist. Hurley is still my man in the real world.
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I like having some idea of what's going on. That's my only complaint about this season really. I have literally NO FUCKING CLUE what's going on.
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I like having some idea of what's going on. That's my only complaint about this season really. I have literally NO FUCKING CLUE what's going on.
Wait, you're just complaining about that NOW? :lol
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Ilana is such a dumb whore. Jacob is stupid for chosing a skank who doesn't know how unreliable dynamite is.
What a bad episode. Nice ending, though.
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Goddamit, I'll strangle you
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like Pullo did to her in Rome...good fuck she was amazing in that
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I thought Ilana was pretty hot. I'd definitely do her.
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(http://ncjl.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/gaia-02.jpg)
And she has nice boobs and nipples.
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I thought Ilana was pretty hot. I'd definitely do her.
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(http://ncjl.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/gaia-02.jpg)
And she has nice boobs and nipples.
Watch this for more:
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I just figured out the end game of this show :rock
::is slacker university student::
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Awesome episode, crazy ending
And I have to concur with my favorite southern man: fuck Jack
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I just figured out the end game of this show :rock
::is slacker university student::
Is this a theory or have you stumbled on some spoilers?
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theory. Its actually not even that huge of a theory but I'm pretty sure I'm right about it and I haven't seen it said before. I don't read spoilers.
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Then its WORTHLESS
I subscribe to the theory I read last year. Its kinda like some of those old mythologies where the 'evil' forces are merely trying to preserve life and the universe and the 'good' forces are trying to bring about armageddon. I don't feel like elaborating!
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I guess it would be too much work to post this theory
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I have no idea where I read it.
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The island is really a giant 3DS, and Dharma was really Nintendo all along
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:lol
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:rock
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jam
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OMG the previews for this week! :hyper
Where? Or is it the jack and locke conversation?
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The Jack and Locke convo should be great. Jack is my boyfriend
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[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x_gGpFKfsc[/youtube]
I have such a piss poor memory. I saw this movie and never realised. :lol
In my defense wtf is going on with Mathew Fox's getup.
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OMG the previews for this week! :hyper
Where? Or is it the jack and locke conversation?
[youtube=560,345]Q_Xiim6nt8c[/youtube]
:spin
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In the last episode, you find out that Hurley never left the nut house, and everything happened inside his head. The series ends with him being stripped naked and housed down for a delousing.
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Daddy likes
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Libby is kinda hot in a "I bet she's wild as fuck in bed" way. dem tittiez :o
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In the last episode, you find out that Hurley never left the nut house, and everything happened inside his head. The series ends with him being stripped naked and housed down for a delousing.
Really the only ending that makes ANY sense at this point...
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There's also something wrong with Libby's lips in the latest episode. Looks as if they had to cover her herpes with a lot of make up.
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OH GOD THAT WAS AWESOME
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Kind of a boring episode overall.
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Kind of a boring episode overall.
What
I have a feeling that the season finale will be solely Jack and Locke based on the spoiler I read.
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Assuming the sub does explode, and one of the episodes is called "What they Died For". Everyone on hydra island either dies in battle or in the sub explosion. Leaving Jack alone to wrap the series up. Solo is going to be pissed
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With all this emphasis on the smoke monster this season, it got me thinking to season 4 where we are led to believe that Ben could control the smoke monster. Was that the case? He also mentioned "there are rules" when talking about how come it didnt kill keamy and crew and I wonder if they are ever going to try to plug that up.
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That episode- ALL OVER MY FACE-
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With all this emphasis on the smoke monster this season, it got me thinking to season 4 where we are led to believe that Ben could control the smoke monster. Was that the case? He also mentioned "there are rules" when talking about how come it didnt kill keamy and crew and I wonder if they are ever going to try to plug that up.
simple answer. Ben was lying.
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With all this emphasis on the smoke monster this season, it got me thinking to season 4 where we are led to believe that Ben could control the smoke monster. Was that the case? He also mentioned "there are rules" when talking about how come it didnt kill keamy and crew and I wonder if they are ever going to try to plug that up.
simple answer. Ben was lying.
But that's ALWAYS the 'answer' for Ben!
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With all this emphasis on the smoke monster this season, it got me thinking to season 4 where we are led to believe that Ben could control the smoke monster. Was that the case? He also mentioned "there are rules" when talking about how come it didnt kill keamy and crew and I wonder if they are ever going to try to plug that up.
simple answer. Ben was lying.
But that's ALWAYS the 'answer' for Ben!
That's because he's a habitual liar. I've known a few in my day, they just keep on lying and lying. (I.E. $20 Nacho chick)
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Kind of a boring episode overall.
What
I have a feeling that the season finale will be solely Jack and Locke based on the spoiler I read.
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Assuming the sub does explode, and one of the episodes is called "What they Died For". Everyone on hydra island either dies in battle or in the sub explosion. Leaving Jack alone to wrap the series up. Solo is going to be pissed
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don't think everyone goes in the Sub. But the cast on island is seemingly cut down to perhaps half. But then you still have whoever's showing up in X Land, so the finale isn't going to be 2 people on an island.
There's a picture from the photo's released for the next episode, that's got Happy Locke and some C-4 :/
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With all this emphasis on the smoke monster this season, it got me thinking to season 4 where we are led to believe that Ben could control the smoke monster. Was that the case? He also mentioned "there are rules" when talking about how come it didnt kill keamy and crew and I wonder if they are ever going to try to plug that up.
simple answer. Ben was lying.
But that's ALWAYS the 'answer' for Ben!
AND IT'S ALWAYS TRUE
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These writers :lol
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With all this emphasis on the smoke monster this season, it got me thinking to season 4 where we are led to believe that Ben could control the smoke monster. Was that the case? He also mentioned "there are rules" when talking about how come it didnt kill keamy and crew and I wonder if they are ever going to try to plug that up.
Him not killing Keamy seems dumb in retrospect, but I guess Smokey was bound to do shit when Ben summoned it by flushing that ancient toilet. Its feasible that since Jacob was still alive, Smokey had to go there for whatever reason.
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the most striking thing to me during this last season is the realization that a good 60% of what happened in seasons 1-5 didn't mean shit
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the most striking thing to me during this last season is the realization that a good 60% of what happened in seasons 1-5 didn't mean shit
I'd say 2-3 were completely useless. I still can't get over that fact. I'm glad I stopped watching Lost during those 2 seasons and only resumed in season 4.
There's so much shit they haven't explained yet.
Like how the hell did Claire get off the island and into Kate Bedroom?
How come Miles needed a fucking vacuum cleaner to talk to the dead off the island,but doesn't need it on island?
Why the fuck has Hurley not lost weight yet?
How come they can speak to the dead in general?
Why the fuck did Jacob order the killing of oceanic 815 members?
So many goddam questions better be answered.
Season 2 and 3 though, so utterly useless, it's clear they were stalling and making up as they went along.
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Veidt = moron
Welcome to ignore list
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Jesus, he really put me on ignore for that :lol
I like the show, but nothing is exempt from criticism. Heck, I even genuinely believe they'll answer those questions.
I don't think Demi ever liked me anyway. :-\
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Actually...he's kind of right...
The Claire room thing and how people can talk to the dead are one thing (I don't know)
But Hurley didn't lose weight because he munched on Dharma stuff when the hatch showed up, then left for 3 years for the Real World. No shortage of food there!!!
Vacuum Cleaner was just a noise cover, to drown out him talking to a dead guy to find some drug money.
Alot of those Oceanic 815 survivors sucked, and needed to die.
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Kates encounter with Claire was a dream. You can tell because Kate wakes up right after, goes to check on Aaron, and then makes a face as if to say "good thing that was only a dream".
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I know why Hurley didn't lose weight ( I was actually, taking some of the criticisms and mixing in some sarcasm). :P
Didn't know about the Vacuum cleaner being used for noise and the Claire thing being a dream though.
Can't wait to see more of Desmond. The man looks like he's in complete control of everything going on.
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I think its just that your questions were already either answered explicitly or implied by what occurs in the show. A better question would be the whole "So why can't people conceive and give birth to babies on the island?"
They talked that up for so long and then NOTHING. I'm not even sure how they could explain considering that it seems like the last batch of episodes is focusing on conflict.
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Might have something to do with the electromagnetism. The island is filled with pockets of energy, and that might have some sort of effects on the fetus.
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I think everyone on that boat will die and leave Jack and Locke to argue at each other for all eternity.
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I would be ok with that. Jack is amazing.
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Another good episode :bow
lol @ Sawyer taking Jack's spot as "that guy who has stupid escape ideas"
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Veidt is right. Lost is lost. The show has gone to the shitter.
The last two episodes have been pretty useless. The whole season 6 has been useless so far.
Too bad.
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yep :-/
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Fucking wack!
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>:(
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I think its just that your questions were already either answered explicitly or implied by what occurs in the show. A better question would be the whole "So why can't people conceive and give birth to babies on the island?"
They talked that up for so long and then NOTHING.
Well there was that several hundred foot tall Statue of a fertility God, I guess that's NOTHING ::)
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How does a statue explain anything?
Lost fans. :lol
"WELL THERE WAS A FERTILITY GOD STATUE IN ONE EPISODE, MYSTERY SOLVED!!!" :dur
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Would be hilarious if they did a scrolling text intro before the 2 hour block that explains some of the miscellaneous shit that obviously will never be answered otherwise. The rage would be glorious.
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How does a statue explain anything?
Lost fans. :lol
"WELL THERE WAS A FERTILITY GOD STATUE IN ONE EPISODE, MYSTERY SOLVED!!!" :dur
I took his post as sarcasm... I hope
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I think they're going to be content to not answer many of the long standing mysteries, hoping to divert our attention with this silly GOOD vs EVIL showdown that will probably be pretty lame. How many times have heard WAR IS COMING and we get amped for WAR and it's like, the not really a war. Pretty lame.
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Wow, I totally forgot about the pregnancy issue. :lol
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Its like, they went through all that just so Sawyer could eventually have a love interest and film one of the more heart wrenching scenes from him
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And how the series ends with Sawyer hooking up with Jack and adpotpin' lil' asian babies
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(http://www.gifmania.co.uk/tv-series/lost/lost.gif)
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HURLEY DOESN'T GET FAT BECAUSE HE HAS A PARASITIC WORM IN HIS STOMACH. | THE DISEASE THAT PEOPLE GET FROM THE ISLAND IS AIDS.
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Would be hilarious if they did a scrolling text intro before the 2 hour block that explains some of the miscellaneous shit that obviously will never be answered otherwise. The rage would be glorious.
How about a news crawl during the whole episode?
:lol
That would definitely be more of a backhand to the fans
This just in Polar Bear was really just the smoke monster... | Pregnancy was just a way to give Sawyer a love interest... | Michael is still searching for Walt, even in death...
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these guys are geniuses with the smoke and mirrors, i will admit
their basic tactic for the past two seasons has been "screw it, we'll let the fanatics fill in the holes, they'll go bugshit nuts on anyone who says it's stupid"
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BREAKING...DHARMA WAS REALLY NAMED AFTER JENNA ELFMAN'S CHARACTER IN THAT SITCOM BECAUSE DAMON LINDELOF WANTED TO FUCK HER...
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KATE IS PROBABLY INTO BLACK GUYS, HOLY FUCK
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CUZ THEY AIN'T NO WHINA BITCH LIKE A LOST WHINA WHINA BITCH
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HEEEY HOOO
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Sneak peek for the next episode is up:
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http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/2010/04/episode-614-candidate-sneak-peek-1.html#axzz0mNiJpqJa
greatest tvshow ever or greatest tv show ever?
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bump for epic
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i'm with him
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LIKE A BAWS
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oh that damn locke!
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Did Lapidus really eat it by a door? :lol
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LOL yeah Jin. great idea. now your child has NO PARENTS.
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If I was in sawyer's place I wouldn't have listened to the crazy either. Can't you surface in a sub at a faster rate although it might fuck you up?
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they killed every non-vital character but kate?
fuck that!
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What an amazing episode. When Hurley cried, I leaked a little water. Nothing more sadder than a fat man crying ;_;
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I looked at the clock and thought the episode was going to end with Jack crying.
*SOB*
LOST
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they killed every non-vital character but kate?
fuck that!
My guess is that Kate is going to be the only character besides Jack who lives :lol
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Does anyone else not like this season? Sure lots of SHOCKING THINGS happen, but the whole "Uhhhhhhhhhh so the smoke guy is a bad guy and mystery man is a good guy and now you pick a team and thens witch teams for 10 episodes and then tehrell be a GOOD VS EVIL batle and maybe well kill people haha" thing sucks
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How many times has Sawyer stolen someone's gun, given it back because somebody else threatened to kill Kate, and then been hit by said gun? I'm thinking it's got to be at least half a dozen.
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Does anyone else not like this season? Sure lots of SHOCKING THINGS happen, but the whole "Uhhhhhhhhhh so the smoke guy is a bad guy and mystery man is a good guy and now you pick a team and thens witch teams for 10 episodes and then tehrell be a GOOD VS EVIL batle and maybe well kill people haha" thing sucks
Nope, awesome season. Enjoy wallowing in korea
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But wait, here's an example of some of the awesome Korean television you could be watching if you lived there!
(http://i41.tinypic.com/6hj7sx.jpg)
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(http://i41.tinypic.com/2057ciq.jpg)
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Lost owned, evidently. With shows like "Lawyers", how can you lose?
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This season sucks, but what else is new.
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How many times has Sawyer stolen someone's gun, given it back because somebody else threatened to kill Kate, and then been hit by said gun? I'm thinking it's got to be at least half a dozen.
:lol
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Does anyone else not like this season? Sure lots of SHOCKING THINGS happen, but the whole "Uhhhhhhhhhh so the smoke guy is a bad guy and mystery man is a good guy and now you pick a team and thens witch teams for 10 episodes and then tehrell be a GOOD VS EVIL batle and maybe well kill people haha" thing sucks
Same. I've stopped watching because of its mediocrity.
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They've gone this far, they should have just kept the gang together. It just feels as though they're offing people cause ITS ALMOST OVER THE WAR IS HERE. I also hate that they're using the X-Timeline as some sort of consolation for character deaths. Its k' guys, you see, they're doing Ok in another life 8)
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i felt nothing, that sad piano music is almost like a parody of itself now
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why was frank lapidus even in this season, he served no purpose whatsoever
supposedly there's some big revelation next episode which proves that the creators knew where they were going all this time
yeah, good luck with that :lol
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Well the trailer for next week shows Season 1 Locke explaining othello to Walt. The Light/Dark part.
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all the footage in the promo was old footage. None of it's actually in next weeks episode.
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Except the one scene with Jacob and MIB
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all the footage in the promo was old footage. None of it's actually in next weeks episode.
Exactly. The Locke scene was there to say "See we had this planned from Season 1!"
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i'm a little pissed about frank, to be honest
there were plenty of opportunities this season to have the character do something heroic and sacrificial instead of just casually disposing of him like that
in the end, they just created a useless character who ate up screen time which could have been used to better explain dangling plot threads
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We dont know if he's dead. I'm saying no according to reports of him being filmed with Claire on a beach
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they killed every non-vital character but kate?
fuck that!
My guess is that Kate is going to be the only character besides Jack who lives :lol
i figure she will end up with jack in the current timeline and end up with sawyer in the alternate one as to satisfy all fan-bases...except the one that wants her dead.
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This episode made me feel bad about myself for not feeling sad. It is not really easy for me to cry from watching a movie or a series.
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i felt nothing, that sad piano music is almost like a parody of itself now
I felt this way when I was catching up earlier in the season but I thought it was just because I was drunk
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Next episode is all about Jacob and MIB, not a single cast regular
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Next week should be interesting:
Sneak Peak
"Every question I answer will simply lead to another question." I'm sure that will be their excuse when they don't answer everything haha
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Was there any significance in the music box that Claire had in the alternate timeline that I missed?
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Wasn't that the music box from Season 1?
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Was there any significance in the music box that Claire had in the alternate timeline that I missed?
It plays "Catch A Falling Star" - the song she sang on the island and the original timeline
I think it's going to be the object that triggers their memories, that's about it
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It's because it has pretty much become a train wreck with little resolution.
They've been teasing WAR IS COMING TO THE ISLAND all season, but everyone is dead, what kind of possible war could they have at this point? It'll be like ten dudes fighting each other by the last episode! :lol
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Don't you mean two? :teehee
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I've been watching the X Files and look who I ran into (in Season 2 Episode 12 "Aubrey")
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Terry O'Quinn needs to jump back in time and avoid the fuck out of LOST
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NOT AMUSED
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Me and Gazunta had a contest on if I could find a show with anyone who wasnt on LOST
The answer:
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Family Matters 8)
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Only until the Lost finale, when it turns out Steve Urkel is the mastermind behind the whole island, and only Stefan can save them.
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that would have been cool to find out while watching the upcoming episode
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Next week:
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You will see three of the main leads in a very surprising throwback moment that lets you know that the producers totally knew what they were doing as of season one.
People think it's spoiler (click to show/hide)
Jack
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[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDiSluPfoWc[/youtube]
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"I just wanna say that I loved you in Arrested Development."
:lol
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I kind of dont give a fuck how it ends at this point. ZOMG A LAB ON A DESERTED ISLAND is about 10,000x times more interesting than GOOD VS EVIL REASON VS FAITH WLECOME TO POST MODERNISM WHO IS GOOD WHO IS BAD WHO CAN SAY.
Fuck if I care at this point. Next ep looks cool, though. I like origin stories
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Good episode. But at the same time I kinda felt like it was a rehash of old territory with Sawyer; the gun was mentioned, but this season has been full of "Sawyer plans gone wrong."
I thought Frank was great in S4, but he has served no purpose in this season. I always wondering how the fuck they'd possibly get the plane to work again, and in this episode the plane became irrelevant; at that point I knew Frank was done for. Maybe not in this episode though; he's probably still alive.
Jin demanding Jack save Sawyer :'(
Sayid :'( :'(
Kate still alive :'( :-\ :maf
This season is basically a fan fic. The last few have been great so I'm not complaining
So I'm guessing the Kwon on the list=the kid. And if Sawyer lives he'll raise the kid lol
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i didn't care about any of the deaths. :-\
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Just for reference, when is the last time you've felt anything for anyone?
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about a death or about characters in general?
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i didn't care about any of the deaths. :-\
^^
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about a death or about characters in general?
I was jking
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As a lot of people have been speculating, I can confirm that our favourite hairy chested character, Frank Lapidus is alive and well, albeit a little on the soggy side.
We will be seeing him on-island again.
Read more: http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/#ixzz0nYYNVg3F
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There was something about that guy that always looked familiar but I could never put my finger on where I've seen him before and I never bothered to look it up but a few weeks ago I saw The Lawnmower Man on TV and there he was playing the distinguished mentally-challenged fellow. Who would've guessed that he'd still be playing a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow 20 years later on an even more distinguished mentally-challenged show.
It's the circle of life.....
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There was something about that guy that always looked familiar but I could never put my finger on where I've seen him before and I never bothered to look it up but a few weeks ago I saw The Lawnmower Man on TV and there he was playing the distinguished mentally-challenged fellow.
You're right! :o
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Hahahahha, I remember the scene with him being hit on by the house wife :lol
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[youtube=560,345]YCxFGxqLsHE[/youtube]
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It's funny how much he looks like Trey Parker too.
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also
[youtube=560,345]tl-_L0Xbph4[/youtube]
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Is that Claire?
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Is that Claire?
Emilie de Ravin was only five years old when Psycho III came out, so no.
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i didn't care about any of the deaths. :-\
hm yes cool colours though
daniel dae kim (uh, jin) giving up on the accent which has so trapped the character was amusing, though sun could wretch out convincing pain.
rewatched that old timey episode 'man behind the curtain' on tv, jacob's cabin sequence is still as creepy and quintessential LOST scene as I remember it. "...you're crazy"
when will the cabin return demi?
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Is that Claire?
Emilie de Ravin was only five years old when Psycho III came out, so no.
She was skipping through time!
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Is that Claire?
Emilie de Ravin was only five years old when Psycho III came out, so no.
She was skipping through time!
:o
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[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1K4Fsk3rG8[/youtube]
One thing you can't take away from Lost is that the score is bonertastic
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Jack's hanging on like the pussy he is.
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Jack :piss2
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I am excite for tonight
I'd lose my shit if the Man in Black ends up being tied to Kings "Dark Tower" series. LOSE MY SHIT.
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Jack's just looking out for himself. You expect him to rely on a black man?
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Jack's just looking out for himself. You expect him to rely on a black man?
You don't hang on in that ride. Kills the zero-g fun.
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Well I see two dead characters, one soon to be, and one who is the boss
I think I'll side with Jack on this
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How can anyone look at Kate and not want to punch her in her fucking face?
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http://www.pressthebuttons.com/2010/05/the-lost-games-of-lost.html
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How can anyone look at Kate and not want to punch her in her fucking face?
The e-hate for Kate is tired and boring. She's no shittier than anyone else one this show.
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Bullshit. She has the worst flashbacks/flash sideways and no redeeming qualities. She's nothing more than a tool that passes from hand (Sawyer) to hand (Jack)
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this is dumb and boring
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I agree that "Kate" episodes aren't ever Lost's strongest point, but the NERD RAGE she seems to induce is awful uncomfortable.
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this.... is... so dumb
edit: so dumb. so so dumb.
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Shake my fucking head to the fucking max. The light better not be some hokey Mr.Grinch heart shit.
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HERE'S AN IDEA GUYS. LETS DEDICATED ONE OF OUR LAST EPISODES OF THE SERIES TO SOME AWESOME CHILD ACTORS. YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAH
AWESOME A+ ACTING HERE GUYS
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lol
Sounds like this is going to be a good one
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so apparently this is exactly how The Dark Tower turned out? boo
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so apparently this is exactly how The Dark Tower turned out? boo
Um no.
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this is "syndicated low-budget fantasy series you watch on saturday afternoons when you're still hungover" kinda bad
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so apparently this is exactly how The Dark Tower turned out? boo
Naw, its gone its own direction
this is "syndicated low-budget fantasy series you watch on saturday afternoons when you're still hungover" kinda bad
I'm feeling the same way. Its almost like they should have had a simple text at the beginning warning viewers not too watch if they don't want to end up finding out that Jacob is an immortal man baby.
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Ghahahahhahahaha, AND THATS HOW IT WAS BORN. Shit out from the light hole.
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Well, that's who
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Adam and Eve
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worst episode of the season. by far. truly bad.
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Uh... yeah, gotta agree. That was a stinker.
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i'm honestly surprised at how bad that was, it's like they threw their hands up and decided to just not give a fuck anymore
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You fuckers are scaring me.
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So the black smoke is explained by the unexplained white light. Well done Lost writers.
some dude at GAF. same thing was going through my head. ffs.
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The GAF thread is fucking hilarious:
"THIS IS NOT HOW I IMAGINED IT HAPPENING! FUCK THEM FOR NOT READING MY MIND AND FILMING MY LOST FANFIC!"
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The white light was sorta explained in, what?, season 4? It's the energy pocket.
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thats not really explaining it. instead they just added another layer of vague dumb mythos over it and then BAM out shits the smoke monster.
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The white light was sorta explained in, what?, season 4? It's the energy pocket.
Why is it the "frozen" donkey wheel? Looked plenty warm in that cave to me.
Why does the white light poop out smoke monster?
Who eventually builds the donkey wheel? It was buried.
How does turning a wheel allow time travel? Just because he says there's a system?
Sorry, this was a poop episode.
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I'M GONNA BUILD A SYSTEM WITH A WHEEL THAT CHANNELS WATER AND ENERGY. AND I'M GONNA GET OFF THIS ISLAND
yep.
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Oh come on, there was no fucking way their explanations were going to be accepted by anyone
I wish they'd keep it all vague.
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Oh it's plenty vague in this episode. All I wanted was some insight on the "Frozen" donkey wheel. Instead I see him making a barbecue and sweating.
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How do you think the "deaths" of
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Sayid, Frank, Jun & Sun
were handled, demi?
(I don't know why I spoil't that, it's last weeks' fucking episode)
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I've stopped watching the show three episodes ago, I think. What a dumbass season. I'm not a Lost fan anymore.
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Oh wow, Thirst hating on something? Unpossible!
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that's the problem, there were no explanations
at all
it's a mystery wrapped in an enigma wrapped in a bazooka joe comic
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I think the rules at this point are just them paying respects to their dead mother. I have a feeling Smokey coulda killed jacob all on his own if he really wanted to. Kinda sucks that the whole reason Jacob wont let smokey go is out of fucking spite.
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I've been a LOST apologist for a long time, but this last season is seriously shitty. This is DALLAS-style "It was all a dream" caliber writing. This latest episode really seals the deal.
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Now that I think about it, this episode probably single handedly ruined the series for A LOT of people.
Oh well, its been a fun ride.
Based on the spoiler I read I think
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Jack and crew are going to be helping smokey leave, Jacob is just a dick after all
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where did you read that?
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I just dont get why it went from a cool Sci-Fi CRAZY SHIT show to a particularly awful episode of Touched by an Angel. I don't get why everything had to be explained by MYSTIC ENERGY instead of a cool Sci-Fiish answer.
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i don't like to talk bad about people, but benjaminbirdie's incessant cheerleading and apologism kind of creeps me out
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How do you think the "deaths" of
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Sayid, Frank, Jun & Sun
were handled, demi?
(I don't know why I spoil't that, it's last weeks' fucking episode)
I thought last weeks episode was A+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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hahahahahaha
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I thought last weeks episode was A+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Sarcasm?
I thought it was kind of corny and anti-climatic myself, and I like Lost!
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its awesome how, in their final moments, 24 and Lost are going in completely different directions
Lost is completely drowning in it's own mythos. Crap
24 is breaking free of it's chains and being completely awesome.
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sayid deserved a little better, even a split-second close-up before the boom where he kind of closes his eyes and accepts his fate would have been something
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24 is breaking free of it's chains and being completely awesome.
by having it turn into Saw?
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sayid deserved a little better, even a split-second close-up before the boom where he kind of closes his eyes and accepts his fate would have been something
why did the guy all of a sudden become passionate about the fucking whole thing when he's been zombie Sayid since the muddy pool? and then he runs off-set. :(
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No sarcasm, I think it was one of the best episodes
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I also like how they managed to explain one of the series' most enduring mysteries (Adam & Eve) in the most boring, pathetic way possible.
It'd be like explaining the Smoke monster as just some guy! Wait. Fuuu.
When they get around to explaining who got shot in that Outrigger it'll probably just be like "Steve & Joe, two outrigging enthusiasts!".
Man. Why all that great set up for such a lousy reveal? Also, why all this focus on Jacob and some guy? Whatever happened to the Dharma Intiative? We still don't know fuck all about it.
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it was just a research corporation trying to harness the magnetic properties of the island for potential profit
that's as much explanation as you're ever gonna get, very doubtful they'll touch on it in the 3 1/2 hours left in the series
first three seasons annihilated
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Nothing left to do but ride it out and see how it ends
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When they get around to explaining who got shot in that Outrigger it'll probably just be like "Steve & Joe, two outrigging enthusiasts!".
:lol
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Nothing left to do but ride it out and see how it ends
What if it ended with Kate and Claire forming the Human Centipede, with Hurley as the top?
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Well I'll say I was right all along
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I've been a LOST apologist for a long time, but this last season is seriously shitty. This is DALLAS-style "It was all a dream" caliber writing. This latest episode really seals the deal.
Pretty much
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Wow this episode was horrible :lol
What a trainwreck :rofl :rofl
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I wish you guys could see my face as this episode wore on. I think I look confused and disgusted the entire sixty minutes. So, so bad. :rofl
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I just really don't understand why. They were telling a really, really good story. And then all of a sudden they stopped telling that story and started telling a worse story. I don't get that impulse or why someone okay'ed it or whatever. It'd be like if Breaking Bad suddenly turned into a show about Walt trying to run a used car lot.
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this explains a lot
Do you think some fans get disappointed when they find out that everything wasn't plotted out from the first episode?
Cuse: I think the answer is, once we announced the end date, I think a lot of those concerns went away. I can't imagine that there are many authors that are able to, basically, conceive something entirely beforehand. We feel strongly that the show would be worse if we were just marching forward. The creative process is not like a situation where you get struck by a single lightning bolt. You have ongoing discoveries and there's ongoing creative revelations. Yes, it's really helpful to be marching toward a specific destination, but, along the way, you must allow yourself room for your ideas to blossom, take root, and grow. I think that's how we approached the show: We had a rough idea of certain things, a specific idea about other things. Over six years, everything got a lot richer and fuller because we spent all that time thinking about the show and thinking about how to make the show better.
As opposed to someone like George Lucas who, today, claims he knew the entire arc of Star Wars when he was filming the first movie. Even his old interviews prove that's not true.
Lindelof: Totally. The other thing is, we never had the hubris or the audacity to try and plot out too far in advance, because we didn't even know if the viewers were going to want another season of Lost. Just to say in season three that we'll end the show after season six, then people decide they hated the show in season four, there wouldn't have even have been a season five. You have to focus on what's in front of you. If J.K. Rowling was only thinking about the seventh Harry Potter book when she was writing the third one, she wouldn't have been able to write the third one. You kind of have to say, "Hey, we have a cool idea for this character named Jacob and his nemesis, the Man in Black. But let's not put that idea in front of the audience until we're really ready to start telling that chapter of the story. We'll allude to it, because we have it in mind. In the meantime, this chapter of the story is that the island is moving through time and that's what the characters are dealing with right now. If you throw Jacob and the Man in Black into that story, people's heads are going to explode.
http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/2010/05/yet-another-damon-and-carlton-interview.html
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How about the pregnancy shit?
I'm not really disappointed though. I mean, what were you guys really expecting? Sirens should have been blaring when there was still filler BS in the final season and TONS of shit to answer. They're doing it as fast as they can and as conveniently as they can. I always figured it would boil down to complete mythos and faith and "it just happens" stuff. The pseudo science answers haven't really been big for like 3 seasons. When they started talking about lists and being chosen and Jacon you guys didn't see some cheesy shit coming your way? Meh. Set your expectations low, people.
I personally would rather have had them be super vague about 99% of the shit and never answer it. I was just happy that they didn't completely forget about the black and white rocks from season 1. That shit drove me insane for the last 4 years (started with season 2). I preferred when the mythos was a backdrop for other events and their eventual escape. I wish it would have stayed that way and left most of the mythos unanswered.
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The thing is, I seem to remember reading interviews with those guys basically pulling a Lucas and telling everyone that they had the whole story planned out from day 1 and now it seems they're backing off of that. Of course I assumed they were full of shit when they said it, but reading that little quip from Lindelof and Cuse kind of rubs me the wrong way for some reason.
I came to the conclusion around season 3 that Lost was only going to end in two ways - either as one of the most brilliant shows of all time or as a complete clusterfuck. Looks like clusterfuck wins with the TKO.
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Meh. Set your expectations low, people.
I'm sorry we demand quality and consistency from a serialized television show! The nerve of us! :lol
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From a friend via the Internets:
"Oh snap the gold shit in the water is the same thing that is in the briefcase in Pulp Fiction. MIND BLOWN!" :lol
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Meh. Set your expectations low, people.
I'm sorry we demand quality and consistency from a serialized television show! The nerve of us! :lol
Uhh, that wasn't an insult or anything to you, guys. It was an insult to Lost.
I'm just wondering how you guys didn't see it coming?
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I'm kinda with Mupepe in the sense that I'm not disappointed. I actually started laughing out loud at the end of the episode. Perhaps the trainwreck that was BSG prepared me for this.
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From GAF
(http://img11.imagehosting.gr/out.php/i1382956_lostanswerguide.png)
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This season has been pretty disappointing. There have been a few good episodes (Sundown :bow), but I think I'm just going to pretend that Lost ends at Season 5 with Juliet detonating the bomb. :-\
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y2kev 12:23 PM
i just hate lost fans
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so the show crashing is much more enjoyable
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than if it were good
cajolejuice 12:23 PM
i think that might be true
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the thing is
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so many fans STILL like it
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e.g. benjamin birdie
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or even the A.V Club
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gave that ep an A-
y2kev 12:24 PM
yeah
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you just have to trust that inside
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they know it sucks
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and they have to pretend to like something crap, which is way more painful
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it was like being a ps3 owner for 2 years
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You mean what it's like to still be a PS3 owner. :smug
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By the way, Battlestar Galactica is nowhere near the train wreck this show is quickly becoming. Folks were upset with the spiritual stuff, despite the fact that all the spiritual hocus pocus is what Ron Moore was known for and that it had been ingrained into the show from the beginning. Furthermore, the bullpen resolved most of the lingering mysteries in a timely manner and didn't leave the show's mythos hanging. That's not the case here.
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The pseudo science shit has been out the window for a while. I'm just wondering what the hell people have been watching that they didn't expect answers like this with a handful of episodes left?? I mean, there haven't been many shows with huge ambition that didn't have a craptacular ending. Most top tier shows still have shit endings. I've just figured for a while that it was going to be a messy ending and I just enjoy the ride, poo and all. It's about on par with what I expected.
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You mean what it's like to still be a PS3 owner. :smug
MLB.TV + The Show kinda makes me want it as a baseball fan. :'(
And The Shield had basically the best ending ever.
:bow THE SHIELD :bow2
:rock :rock :rock
:gun :gun :gun
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The pseudo science shit has been out the window for a while.
No, it has not. Time travel and parallel universes have been a running theme this season. That's total bunk. I'm not saying there isn't an element of spiritual hocus pocus, but the fact of the matter is that its introduction didn't negate all the pseudo-science. Furthermore, it was introduced rather late in the game. It's a valid complaint.
And yeah, I don't think it's unfair for fans to demand answers to mysteries and pseudo-scientific explanations after following the show for five years. Stop making excuses for shitty writing.
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The pseudo science shit has been out the window for a while.
No, it has not. Time travel and parallel universes have been a running theme this season. That's total bunk. I'm not saying there isn't an element of spiritual hocus pocus, but the fact of the matter is that its introduction didn't negate all the pseudo-science. Furthermore, it was introduced rather late in the game. It's a valid complaint.
And yeah, I don't think it's unfair for fans to demand answers to mysteries and pseudo-scientific explanations after following the show for five years. Stop making excuses for shitty writing.
... you expected pseudo science answers because of time travel and parallel universes? That's when I knew shit would be off the walls. Would you have really been happier if the cop out was that they were going to jump into another dimension to avoid the island or some shit? People would be throwing the same complaints! Shit has been bananas for a while. I'm not making excuses, Will. Learn to read. I'm saying it's shit and the writing has been on the wall for a while.
I'm asking you what the hell you really expected?
Face it. People were going to be disappointed no matter what because this shit has been insane for the last 3 years. If you didn't know that at the beginning of the season you were on crack, dude. They had so much different non-sensical shit to explain I really don't understand what people were expecting. How did you not see the "God element" shit coming??
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You mean what it's like to still be a PS3 owner. :smug
MLB.TV + The Show kinda makes me want it as a baseball fan. :'(
You don't even play games. And MLB.TV is what computers are for.
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Well, they have two fucking episodes to answer some questions, but Mother pretty much said what the Lost writers meant: they can't answer any more questions without creating more questions.
With two episodes left, that pretty much means we aren't going to find out shit. So, I'm just going to FINALLY lower my expectations for the ending of the show.
FUCK.
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You mean what it's like to still be a PS3 owner. :smug
MLB.TV + The Show kinda makes me want it as a baseball fan. :'(
You don't even play games. And MLB.TV is what computers are for.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/mlb-tv-and-ps3/
To be fair, the iPad having it made me want it too. :(
Also, I've been playing the SC2 beta a bit again lately!
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Well, they have two fucking episodes to answer some questions, but Mother pretty much said what the Lost writers meant: they can't answer any more questions without creating more questions.
With two episodes left, that pretty much means we aren't going to find out shit. So, I'm just going to FINALLY lower my expectations for the ending of the show.
FUCK.
This is the correct answer people should have come to when the season started and we saw they were doing the same old shit as before "filler episode. filler episode. AMAZING EPISODE. filler episode"
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... you expected pseudo science answers because of time travel and parallel universes?
Uh yeah. Considering both of those are pseudo-science, I do not think it's illogical to make the assumption that the show's writers would explain lingering mysteries with pseudo-science.
I'm asking you what the hell you really expected?
Exactly what I just typed! Saying that people's expectations were off because the show is "bananas" is stupid. People expected pseudo-scientific explanations to pseudo-scientific mysteries. I think people would have even been okay with the introduction of spiritual hocus pocus, but it's only served to vaguely explain things that would have been easily explained with - wait for it - pseudo-science. This entire season has been nothing but deflection, with the bullpen vaguely answering some things in the most distinguished mentally-challenged manner and completely ignoring a lot of loose ends.
Last night's episode is pretty much evidence of that.
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This is the correct answer people should have come to when the season started and we saw they were doing the same old shit as before "filler episode. filler episode. AMAZING EPISODE. filler episode"
No, it's not. It's not my fault for not lowering expectations because the "writing was on the wall". That is dumb dumb dumb.
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I'm saying people were stupid and naive to be so surprised by bullshit copout answers on the third to last episode with so much shit still remaining. Your whole thing comes down to "I wanted to be pleased by pseudo science answers!" That's really specific! It's been clear for a while that there wasn't enough time to answer shit without huge jumps in logic. I don't know why people are so fucking surprised. It's been so convoluted for a while that any attempt at a detailed, logical explanation would be even more convoluted. Especially with the way this show works. Do people really expect the next 2 episodes to just bombard them with answers that aren't pure shit at this point? REALLY?
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This is the correct answer people should have come to when the season started and we saw they were doing the same old shit as before "filler episode. filler episode. AMAZING EPISODE. filler episode"
No, it's not. It's not my fault for not lowering expectations because the "writing was on the wall". That is dumb dumb dumb.
no. It's logical logical logical. Has been for a while. I can understand disappointment. I really can. But I can't understand the surprise that it's shit. Every big answers so far has been pretty much a copout and a disappointment. "Oh. Well that was dumb" or it caused even more questions. With a few episodes left there's no way to cover everything without it being borderline distinguished mentally-challenged.
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Uh, what? There's been plenty of time to answer questions, just because they have not done this season doesn't mean I have to re-adjust my expectations. That's dumb dumb dumb.
This is basically the "you have to turn your brain off to enjoy this movie" argument, which is also dumb.
The rage is deserved. The fact that the Lost writers have dropped the ball doesn't mean that viewers are dumb for expecting more. My god, man. :rofl
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Willco's been waiting for this moment for a while, you can feel the fury in his digits. The beef can is about to explode
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Well, I have been suspecting for quite some time that this was the logical outcome, but this show has derailed so quickly and done so with such a disdain for its audience that I never saw this coming. Consider me surprised.
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Uh, what? There's been plenty of time to answer questions, just because they have not done this season doesn't mean I have to re-adjust my expectations. That's dumb dumb dumb.
This is basically the "you have to turn your brain off to enjoy this movie" argument, which is also dumb.
The rage is deserved. The fact that the Lost writers have dropped the ball doesn't mean that viewers are dumb for expecting more. My god, man. :rofl
i never said turn your brain off. i'm admitting it's craptacular! what don't you get about that? I'm asking how people didn't see it coming.
The fact that there has been plenty of time to answer questions and they've still been moving at a snail's pace should have been your first clue that the reveals were going to suck donkey balls.
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I'm asking how people didn't see it coming.
Because the show has never been this bad or disrespected its audience to this degree. That's how!
The fact that there has been plenty of time to answer questions and they've still been moving at a snail's pace should have been your first clue that the reveals were going to suck donkey balls.
Again, when a show is competently written for many years, it is not the fault of the audience for maintaining high expectations. This is like, the worst argument ever.
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Bottom line, and I guess you agree, is that the show has sunk to a new low and has turned on its audience. Eel's quip that last night's episode resembled the kind of hackneyed writing that a weekday syndicated television show might tout was pretty accurate. Lost sucks, end of story.
And that's not the fault of the audience, that's the fault of the writers.
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I'm asking how people didn't see it coming.
Because the show has never been this bad or disrespected its audience to this degree. That's how!
The fact that there has been plenty of time to answer questions and they've still been moving at a snail's pace should have been your first clue that the reveals were going to suck donkey balls.
Again, when a show is competently written for many years, it is not the fault of the audience for maintaining high expectations. This is like, the worst argument ever.
Since the middle of season 5, I've seen the show this way...
It's like my friend who has always been in some sort of trouble but always managed to make it. He has a ton of problems in his life. Bad debts, arrest warrants, barely hanging onto a job. And everyone knows that one day it's all just going to come down and turn to shit and it's going to happen really fast. He loses his jobs, gets picked up, has creditors suing him and his wife leaves him.
I honestly expected it to fall apart sooner. But I also assumed they would at least try to spread the BS out over this whole season.
Like I said, it's shit and I can admit that. I just think people were naive and were not fucking paying attention to the direction the show was going in. They hadn't answered shit and the answers given had been shit. The season finale is going to be a 2 hour awesome shitfest.
Bottom line, and I guess you agree, is that the show has sunk to a new low and has turned on its audience. Eel's quip that last night's episode resembled the kind of hackneyed writing that a weekday syndicated television show might tout was pretty accurate. Lost sucks, end of story.
And that's not the fault of the audience, that's the fault of the writers.
I completely agree with the bolded. I just can't understand all the dudes on GAF going "what the hell happened?!" and freaking out. I saw it and for a while i was :-\ but then I was :lol and saying "yeah, about what I expected"
But I guess people were more hopeful that I was.
I won't lie. I hoped they would have a decent answer. I really did. But I prepared myself for the worst.
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I'm asking how people didn't see it coming.
Because the show has never been this bad or disrespected its audience to this degree. That's how!
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Well, I have been suspecting for quite some time that this was the logical outcome
oooookay Willco.
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Willco, in the first page of this thread:
I feel pretty confident that this will be one of those series we look back and wonder why the ending was so bad.
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I'm sure glad I never got into Lost.
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How about the pregnancy shit?
You mean how before the hippies broke into the energy pocket women could give birth on the island fine, but after the hippies messed with shit on the island they couldn't?
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How about the pregnancy shit?
You mean how before the hippies broke into the energy pocket women could give birth on the island fine, but after the hippies messed with shit on the island they couldn't?
I guess. But like I said with the answers. They've been vague and shit. Just like this. They built it up to seem like so much more. And still, how come it doesn't affect all births? Not just ones conceived on the island. People seem to be able to conceive regularly and everything is fine up until the birth. And wasn't there some shit about preggers bitches needing shots or something?
Or the shit where they were afraid of infection and they were supposed to take shots and go out in the stupid ass suit and shit? I know they explained the sickness as becoming evil or some shit but it doesn't fit with tons of shit that has been said throughout the series.
Like I said... shit answers. People should have seen it coming.
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I'm left to believe that everything on the show is complete nonsense. And it's because even the characters who think they know what's going on have no idea. They just have opinions. That's what they're going to imply in the end. That way anything that doesn't fit quite right is okay because it was just a theory as well. No one will ever know. cue xfiles music. LOST
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''i've made it so that you can't kill each other.''
well, that explains it. :smug
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The end of LOST is starting to remind me of the end of BSG. "OMG THEY PUT GOD IN MY BSG! DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE!"
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So why again is there a fucking Egyptian statue on this island? Did mom build that in her free time?
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The end of LOST is starting to remind me of the end of BSG. "OMG THEY PUT GOD IN MY BSG! DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE!"
At least BSG had religion references from the beginning.
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The problem with Lost is it isn't interesting outside of SECRETS so for 6 seasons the writers just kept cramming mystery after mystery in to keep people watching. Trouble is there probably isn't a single explanation that can tie everything together like what a good crime novel would provide. Poor fans.
I loved the drama between the characters and the characters themselves.
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The end of LOST is starting to remind me of the end of BSG. "OMG THEY PUT GOD IN MY BSG! DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE!"
At least BSG had religion references from the beginning.
I guess you missed the whole "Man of Science, Man of Faith" angle from the beginning of LOST.
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The problem with Lost is it isn't interesting outside of SECRETS so for 6 seasons the writers just kept cramming mystery after mystery in to keep people watching. Trouble is there probably isn't a single explanation that can tie everything together like what a good crime novel would provide. Poor fans.
I loved the drama between the characters and the characters themselves.
:lol
This is why I liked season 1 the best. It was just about a bunch of people trying to survive on an island.
The end of LOST is starting to remind me of the end of BSG. "OMG THEY PUT GOD IN MY BSG! DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE!"
At least BSG had religion references from the beginning.
I guess you missed the whole "Man of Science, Man of Faith" angle from the beginning of LOST.
That doesn't make it a full story about god. Just a rift between two ideologies.
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I thought season 1 was garbage personally. It was all a bunch of "Sawyer took my toothbrush!" followed by flashbacks of why Sawyer loved toothbrushes. IMO the show didn't start to get interesting until they blew open the hatch but then that was all season 2 and 3 stuff which you can basically flush down the toilet now because none of that shit matters in the end. Just a waste of time.
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The end of LOST is starting to remind me of the end of BSG. "OMG THEY PUT GOD IN MY BSG! DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE!"
I loved the BSG finale.
Hate this shit, tho.
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I thought season 1 was garbage personally. It was all a bunch of "Sawyer took my toothbrush!" followed by flashbacks of why Sawyer loved toothbrushes. IMO the show didn't start to get interesting until they blew open the hatch but then that was all season 2 and 3 stuff which you can basically flush down the toilet now because none of that shit matters in the end. Just a waste of time.
:lol :lol
I loved Season 1 when I first saw it, but it's pretty unwatchable when you have already seen what the rest of the show is about. Did you watch it all in order or start with something later?
Season 2 is my favorite followed by Season 3. And yeah, both seasons pretty much mean nothing now. the last two seasons have taken a big giant shit on everything the first 4 seasons built.
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Season 1 is the best because the premise is so simple THAT should have been what the show is about. Brevity is the soul of wit.
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I thought season 1 was garbage personally. It was all a bunch of "Sawyer took my toothbrush!" followed by flashbacks of why Sawyer loved toothbrushes. IMO the show didn't start to get interesting until they blew open the hatch but then that was all season 2 and 3 stuff which you can basically flush down the toilet now because none of that shit matters in the end. Just a waste of time.
:lol :lol
I loved Season 1 when I first saw it, but it's pretty unwatchable when you have already seen what the rest of the show is about. Did you watch it all in order or start with something later?
Season 2 is my favorite followed by Season 3. And yeah, both seasons pretty much mean nothing now. the last two seasons have taken a big giant shit on everything the first 4 seasons built.
I didn't watch season 1 when it aired but bought the DVD box when it was released because of all the hype surrounding the show with the start of season 2. I could barely make it through it though until it started to kick into gear towards the last couple of episodes. But I did watch the series in order.
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oh. I dunno. I was in love with Season 1 for so long... then after season 3 or so I went back and watched it and just thought "hurry the fuck up!"
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I'm asking how people didn't see it coming.
Because the show has never been this bad or disrespected its audience to this degree. That's how!
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Well, I have been suspecting for quite some time that this was the logical outcome
oooookay Willco.
Cajole nailed it. I had suspected this was coming, but I wildly underestimated how much the writers hate their audience. My major problem with the show's writing staff was the seemingly inability to answer any questions and drag out this whole ordeal, not that that the writers were incompetent.
That changed last night. It was horrific.
As for ManaByte, I don't think anyone can reasonably argue that the show has answered anything that hasn't been cobbled together by fan communities. Also, saying that spirituality was ingrained in its mythos is laughable. Spirituality was ingrained in Locke's character, who was looking for faith in the face of pseudo-science - not the show.
For much of its run, Lost was about people discovering how some crazy scientists were doing wacky experiments on an island with wacky scientific properties and polar bears and some kind of nano-machine swarm that made clicking sounds and killed people. The "smoke monster" was by its very nature established as some kind of pseudo-scientific entity considering that it was thwarted by - gasp! - science!
The show clearly established a set of ground rules for its universe, one where wacky science was okay. And it has abandoned that in favor of some really shitty, tropical version of Carnivale.
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I thought the ground rules got thrown out the window when dudes started becoming psychic (Desmond), talking to dead people (Miles) and they started making time travel and parallel universes a regular thing. It just didn't seem like the same show at all.
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All of that stuff falls under paranormal or pseudo-science. I don't really know why that would throw you for a loop, anymore than polar bears and nano-machine swarms. Time travel, paranormal phenomenon and/or the ability to teleport, was established pretty much from the get-go.
It seemed pretty obvious from the first season that we were heading towards Philadelphia Experiment territory, which is all fine and dandy, but then don't bust out some kind of spiritual good versus evil battle. The limited spirituality worked when it was Locke trying to explain the unexplainable in the only way he knew how, but it's like the writers decided to chuck everything else out the window.
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I dont think Desmond is actually psychic
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I could be wrong, but I think Willco is suffering from a bit of jealousy in regards to Lost's success.
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Because even up until season 3 they had the bear cages implying that the bears weren't simply teleported but that they were simply brought there for some kind of research or some other shit. Like you said, they had a pseudo science feel with ground rules set in the beginning and I just figured during Season 4 that they were going to go batshit insane and not stick to them.
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I dont think Desmond is actually psychic
well he had his future flashes or whatever. i felt it was moving into the out there supernatural direction around there.
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The point has always been that the pseudo-science and the mystical faith-based elements of the show are layered on top of one another. What for Jack or Faraday has a scientific explanation for is for Locke a matter of faith. A glowing cave of light is either some mystical source or electro-magnetic energy depending on who you ask. Jacob has "faith" in his mothers explanation while Titus chills with the human researchers who offer technical explanations. It's the same dynamic the shows been using since forever. It's just that the execution was super corny.
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Because even up until season 3 they had the bear cages implying that the bears weren't simply teleported but that they were simply brought there for some kind of research or some other shit.
I think the existence of a 19th century trading ship in the middle of the island, along with wacky science, "the numbers" and the "smoke monster", pretty much set the precedent that we were in Bermuda Triangle/Philadelphia Experiment territory early on. Desmond and the mythos surrounding The Hatch and its electromagnetic pseudo-science only solidified in later seasons.
The ground rules were set from the get-go.
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The point has always been that the pseudo-science and the mystical faith-based elements of the show are layered on top of one another. What for Jack or Faraday has a scientific explanation for is for Locke a matter of faith.
Except that's not really accurate. The entire show was founded on pseudo-science; it was only Locke that had a vague notion of faith to explain what was being touted as pseudo-science by everyone else. That was more or less something specific to the character of Locke, not the show.
Again, early on, all of the mysteries in the show were pseudo-scientific, from DHARMA, to the smoke monster, to The Hatch, to the pregnancies, etc. There is no way that after the first three or four seasons that an audience could assume that the reason why all this stuff was happening is because of some underground watering hole filled with light and protected by deities.
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Why is this parody better than the show?
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EDIT: By the way, I'm down with a vague layer of spirituality being added to the show (to which it always has, courtesy of Locke and Eko), but when you decide that all of the lingering questions now hinge on that element - and you answer them with some horrible religions fan fiction - well, uh, this is the result.
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Except that's not really accurate. The entire show was founded on pseudo-science; it was only Locke that had a vague notion of faith to explain what was being touted as pseudo-science by everyone else.
If you say so. I'm pretty sure the antagonism between Jack and Locke has been the centerpiece of literally every season though. And yeah I'll be disappointed if the ending of the show merely reiterates that antagonism, as this episode did, instead of offering a resolution to it. But it's hardly surprising to me that that's the direction things are heading.
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Except that's not really accurate. The entire show was founded on pseudo-science; it was only Locke that had a vague notion of faith to explain what was being touted as pseudo-science by everyone else.
If you say so. I'm pretty sure the antagonism between Jack and Locke has been the centerpiece of literally every season though. And yeah I'll be disappointed if the ending of the show merely reiterates that antagonism, as this episode did, instead of offering a resolution to it. But it's hardly surprising to me that that's the direction things are heading.
That's how I feel. I just don't see how people are surprised. What were you guys thinking when Jacob was really revealed and he was this semi christ dude? You really thought you'd get your pseudo science answer after that?
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that's not the problem for me personally, once jack's dead dad started barefootin' in the woods i knew there was going to be a ghost story to go along with all the grainy cryptic videotapes about not letting the rabbits touch
the problem for me is that they're not really answering much of anything, and the questions/mysteries they do bother with all seem like throwaway answers
as i wrote earlier in this thread, seems like they're depending on the fanatics to fill in the plot holes while they concentrate on cramming as many "piano solo moments" into these last few hours, and that's just lazy writing
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I just read an interview where the writers state that they did have an explanation for the outrigger scene but they weren't able to fit it in to the season organically :lol
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I wish DHARMA was more like Massive Dynamics in Fringe (first half of the first season) in that it was menacing an became what the show revolved around (and through that we find out the islands mysteries). But even in Fringe they played up Massive Dynamics that totally shit on it by shifting the focus completely to alternate dimensions.
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Well I cant defend much of this season, but I still think Lost is one of the best shows to come out in a long time. Suck on that, dinty moore
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and yet we got a whole episode of sideways kate on the run which was almost exactly like every other kate on the run episode
this season has been all stall, it was sort of obvious to me when they introduced caine from kung fu that they really only had about a half-season's worth of material and were just padding it out to 18 to fulfill contractual obligations
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Fringe had to shift away from Massive Dynamics, simply because the show was getting too formulaic five episodes in. It's overlapping parallel dimension storyline is much more compelling.
If you say so. I'm pretty sure the antagonism between Jack and Locke has been the centerpiece of literally every season though. And yeah I'll be disappointed if the ending of the show merely reiterates that antagonism, as this episode did, instead of offering a resolution to it. But it's hardly surprising to me that that's the direction things are heading.
See: "By the way, I'm down with a vague layer of spirituality being added to the show (to which it always has had, courtesy of Locke and Eko), but when you decide that all of the lingering questions now hinge on that element - and you answer them with some horrible religious fan fiction - well, uh, this is the result."
The problem is, what you're talking about is not even what's on display. We're not getting vague faith versus pseudo-science, we're just getting distinguished mentally-challenged spiritual nonsense to poorly answer lingering questions - questions largely propped up by pseudo-science.
I'd have no qualms if Locke or a few characters were to continue to refer to the island in a spiritual way, but the show has always been ambiguous on that point. Not anymore!
I don't agree that expectations were out of line for that to continue.
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I just read an interview where the writers state that they did have an explanation for the outrigger scene but they weren't able to fit it in to the season organically :lol
Remind me again, what outrigger scene? I can't seem to remember that.
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The problem is, what you're talking about is not even what's on display.
Yes it is.
A glowing cave of light is either some mystical source or electro-magnetic energy depending on who you ask. Jacob has "faith" in his mothers explanation while Titus chills with the human researchers who offer technical explanations. It's the same dynamic the shows been using since forever. It's just that the execution was super corny.
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I just read an interview where the writers state that they did have an explanation for the outrigger scene but they weren't able to fit it in to the season organically :lol
Remind me again, what outrigger scene? I can't seem to remember that.
In season 5 a few cast members are skipping through time on the island. They wind up on an outrigger and are eventually shot at by a few men on another outrigger. Sawyer ends up popping one of them. But we never find out who the men on the other outrigger actually are.
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I think we all know its going to be phoned home in the next episode. It's Miles who gets capped.
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the interview that was just put out says that it's just not going to be resolved.
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The problem is, what you're talking about is not even what's on display.
Yes it is.
A glowing cave of light is either some mystical source or electro-magnetic energy depending on who you ask. Jacob has "faith" in his mothers explanation while Titus chills with the human researchers who offer technical explanations. It's the same dynamic the shows been using since forever. It's just that the execution was super corny.
Who says it's electro-magnetic energy? Fans? The show has CLEARLY said it's not, given the fact that it turned his brother into a smoke monster, they're immortal, etc. That's not one mention of electro-magnetic energy in that episode. :lol
Furthermore, there's been no pseudo-scientific explanation for ANYTHING. It's all been a ridiculous good versus evil faith battle showdown. I don't know what show you're watching right now.
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The problem is, what you're talking about is not even what's on display.
Yes it is.
A glowing cave of light is either some mystical source or electro-magnetic energy depending on who you ask. Jacob has "faith" in his mothers explanation while Titus chills with the human researchers who offer technical explanations. It's the same dynamic the shows been using since forever. It's just that the execution was super corny.
Who says it's electro-magnetic energy? Fans? The show has CLEARLY said it's not, given the fact that it turned his brother into a smoke monster, they're immortal, etc. That's not one mention of electro-magnetic energy in that episode. :lol
Furthermore, there's been no pseudo-scientific explanation for ANYTHING. It's all been a ridiculous good versus evil faith battle showdown. I don't know what show you're watching right now.
Um, the ENTIRE series has tied the "light" on the island to electromagnetism.
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I just read an interview where the writers state that they did have an explanation for the outrigger scene but they weren't able to fit it in to the season organically :lol
Remind me again, what outrigger scene? I can't seem to remember that.
In season 5 a few cast members are skipping through time on the island. They wind up on an outrigger and are eventually shot at by a few men on another outrigger. Sawyer ends up popping one of them. But we never find out who the men on the other outrigger actually are.
Ahhh....that's right. Now I remember. Just another random event on Fantasy Island. Like that flaming arrow attack out of nowhere at the beginning of season 5.
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When? What are you talking about? That doesn't even make sense, because from all accounts, the "Man in Black" took the light or what have you in the underground watering hole. Electro-magnetic energy turns you into a smoke monster? Is the Man in Black just took all the electro-magnetic energy, and if so, how is there pockets of it still across the island? When did anyone ever refer to the electro-magnetic pockets as light?
Answer: THERE ARE NONE BECAUSE THIS WAS NEVER TIED INTO THE SERIES, YOU GUFF
True answer: The only thing you might be able to cite is that when Ben turned the island, there was a flash of light.
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When? What are you talking about? That doesn't even make sense, because from all accounts, the "Man in Black" took the light or what have you in the underground watering hole. Electro-magnetic energy turns you into a smoke monster? Is the Man in Black just took all the electro-magnetic energy, and if so, how is there pockets of it still across the island? When did anyone ever refer to the electro-magnetic pockets as light?
Answer: THERE ARE NONE BECAUSE THIS WAS NEVER TIED INTO THE SERIES, YOU GUFF
True answer: The only thing you might be able to cite is that when Ben turned the island, there was a flash of light.
When Desmond turned the key in the Swan station.
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Again, two instances of two characters using pseudo-scientific instruments with a scientific origin doesn't really tie into that. It pretty much proves my point, which is the writers have no idea what they're doing. If the best line Losties can come up with is that two characters using pseudo-scientific instruments with electromagnetic energy emit light, thus some weird radiant watering hole that emits light and turns people into smoke monsters makes sense, then you need to reevaluate the show, man.
Thinking about this just makes me angry, actually.
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The bright light is the same "pocket of electro-magnetism" that absorbed everyone in the hatch at the end of season 2. It's the same energy that the dharma initiative struck in "the incident" at the end of season 5. When Titus threw the knife and it landed laterally on to a rock, he was indicating the islands magnetic properties. The humans who Titus spent his time with obviously were not scientists in a technical sense because the time period predates science as we know it today, but their outset is a direct analogue. Research the island in order to exploit its properties. And this is contrasted with Jacob, who passively accepts his mothers airy-fairy mythological explanation. The mistake would be to take the mothers explanation of the white light as a "defintiive" explanation, when the pseudo-science explanation has been around for seasons now.
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Last night's "Lost" review appeared to put me in the minority in enjoying the episode. And "Lost" showrunners Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse are certainly aware of the polarizing reaction to "Across the Sea," and we talked about that - and about certain details of the episode, and complaints fans have had about the season, and even about my own personal obscure "Lost" obsession - in a wide-ranging phone interview this afternoon.
How much attention have you paid to the reaction to last night's episode?
Carlton Cuse: Some degree. We get a little bit of general feedback. We try not to obsess about the boards and all that stuff. So we have some sense.
Damon Lindelof: It's never exactly the reaction you're expecting. We knew it would be an episode that would be divisive. We've been talking since the beginning of the season about the idea that the great thing of doing a show on your own terms is you have no excuses, but it's also slightly terrifying that if you're a mystery show, there will inevitably be episodes that answer mysteries. That has the potential to frighten, terrify, make people hate. This was going to be the season where we said, "Whatever your theory was, our presentation of the endgame of the show may disprove your theory, so we're sorry if you don't like the fact that you don't get the Man in Black's name, but you don't get it." So that's going to piss some people off, and it's their right to be pissed off. In terms of what the specific reactions are, it's too hard to say 12 hours after the fact, and without seeing where this episode plays in the grand scheme of the series. That's all we can say.
One of the things I found interesting - and this is just me playing armchair psychologist - is that there's a lot of text and subtext in this episode about how much of Smokey's pain and the deaths it led to were caused by Mother's refusal to explain things and give him honest answers. And I'm wondering if that was intentional on a conscious or subconscious level - that perhaps after six years of doing this and seeing how angry people get when you don't tell them what they want to know, you've recognized the downside to that approach.
CC: We want the show to speak for itself. We don't want to offer up our interpretation of what the thematics are of the episode. But a lot of the things you say are very interesting. But we will say this: This is what an episode of "Lost" that is about answering questions looks like. This thing is a big mythological download. Our belief is that the real resolution of the show and the one that matters is what happens to these characters. We've felt a desire to provide the audience with Jacob and the Man in Black's origin story and make it not the last episode of the show for a very good reason. The show is going to focus on these characters. That's what we believe is more important and that's what we believe the audience wants to see. This all worked the way we wanted to. We planned it out so we could do a big mythological download episode at this point so that it would allow us to have the end of the show be more character-centric. That's the way we chose to tell our story.
Well, you guys have talked a lot over the years about how you feel the show is driven more by character than mystery. There have been some fans who have been very vocal in saying that they disagree - that they're watching for the mysteries. I dealt with this a lot in covering "The Sopranos," where David Chase was making one show, and a certain segment of his fanbase wanted him to be making a completely different show. How do you deal with losing control of the audience's expectations?
DL: Being fans of other shows ourselves, we always have the perspective is that one of the things you sign up for when you do a show like this is that it is a spectator sport. It feels it's a variance, because we all break up into respective groups and talk about what we think the show means, and there's a sense of ownership. You commit all this time to the show and you're inviting it into your own living room. But at the end of the day, it's David Chase's show. It's easy for people to say what they don't want the show to be, it's very difficult for them to say what they want the show to be. Carlton and I and the writers and everyone else who's creatively involved - it's it's our job to figure out what the show is and not what the show isn't. Usually, when we get criticisms, it's along the lines of, "I really wish you hadn't done that." Or "I wish it had been different." And you throw it back at them and ask, "Well, what did you want it to be?" And they say, "I wanted to see the statue built," or "I wanted the Man in Black's first name," or "I want to know about the guy Sayid shot on the golf course." Okay, that's cool, you wanted those answers and we decided not to provide them to you. It's not because we're being cutesie, it's because that that didn't fit with our vision of the show. Right or wrong, we're going to have to deal the rest of our lives with questions about how "Lost" ended. We're comfortable with that, and at the end of the day, we have to remind people that we chose to end the show. We did not go on for a couple of more seasons and sort of pad it off to oblivion. And we knew we chose to end the show, that we were going to have to take our lumps. That's fine as long as we're happy with how we ended the show. We're not being obnoxious or cocky, it's just us saying we've done our best.
Even some people who were positive about the episode last night objected to or questioned its placement this late in the season, right after this big episode where so many characters died and right before the final hours. And at times I and other people have wondered about whether Desmond should have more prominently appeared in the sideways universe sooner, or if we needed to spend as much time in the Temple as we did, etc. Looking back over the season now, how do you feel about how you placed things and about certain landmarks. Did they have to be at the particular parts of the season where they occured?
CC: We told the story the way we wanted to. Like David Chase, we tried to make the show to entertain the audience. That was our primary goal. We kind of planned this episode to come at this period of time because we actually wanted to take a break after the deaths of these major characters. It felt like this was the perfect time to take a time out from the main narrative. And since this was the final big mythological episode that we were going to do, we felt like it was a good placement for it, and now we'll roll into the finale. We make no apologies. We planned this to be the way it is. Again, it is funny, because there are a lot of people who are very happy with the show, there's going to be a very vocal group of people who are not happy, and that just kind of comes with the territory. We're making the show the best way we know how to make it, and we stand by it, and we're excited about how it ends and how the journey's unfolded.
Let's get into a couple of specifics about last night. Last week, when you spoke to Jeff Jensen, you said all of the deaths happened in part so you could establish Smokey's bonafides as a bad guy, and to make it clear he's not on the side of our characters. And in that episode we were clearly meant to side with Jack as the newfound man of faith. But in "Across the Sea," it's Man in Black, who's the man of science, who winds up being the more sympathetic character, and the victim of his upbringing. So is it supposed to be black and white like the backgammon pieces, or is still supposed to be more complex in the war between the two sides.
DL: We have long sort of spoken about the interesting dynamic in the show is nobody is 100 percent good, nobody is 100 percent evil. Everybody has the capacity for both. Every time you come up with an explanation that's black and white, it turns into shades of grey. Ben Linus starts as a villain and then can become sympathetic. Sawyer and Jin who were also first presented in less than sympathetic lights became increasingly more sympathetic. We wanted to explain why the Man in Black had behaved the way that he does, and to show that like a lot of other characters on the show, he's the victim of very bad parenting. To reduce him to just a supernatural force, as opposed to a person, was not our intent. "Across the Sea" was our attempt to say, "Here's why Jacob feels the way he does about people, why the Man in Black feels the way he does about people," and a bit about their childhood. It's as simple as that and as complex as the themes of the show are.
Okay, you've now said at a couple of points here that you're not going to reveal the name of the Man in Black. Is there a significance to that, or you've just decided you prefer the air of mystery it gives the character to not give him a name?
CC: I think for us to explain why we're not giving him a name veers too far into the territory of explaining things that we don't feel the need to explain.
A couple of my readers pointed out that when Jacob sends the Man in Black down the log flume and he turns into the Smoke Monster, the light in the cave goes out. And they've wondered if that means that Smokey now is the light that Jacob is supposed to protect and that's why he can't leave the island.
CC: You'll get more information that will help you understand that in the episodes that follow this one.
When Mother slaughters the people in the human village, the iconography looked very much like the Dharma bunkers after the purge. Was this your way of suggesting why it was Jacob might have allowed The Others to slaughter the Dharma folk - that this is the punishment for anyone who gets too close to unlocking the island's secrets?
DL: In terms of what Jacob allowed, what he didn't allow, what The Others did of their own volition, with Ben basically saying "This came down from Jacob" is all in the area that is subject to interpretation purposely. What our intention was is that there is a repeating vicious cycle that seems to happen on this island, where people come to the island, they try to figure out what makes the island work, and the closer they came leads them to their own inevitable demise.
CC: Like Icarus
DL: The more curious you become about why the island has its properties, inevitably the protector of the island feels the need to engage in some form of mass genocide. It was more our attempt to say that history repeats itself, and this is an ongoing and continuing motif.
You've said many times that when people find out who Adam and Eve are, we'll all realize just how long you've been planning the mythology. Well, I went back and watched the "House of the Rising Sun" scene, and Jack says that the clothing looks like it's 50 years old. Is he just not very good at calculating the rate of decay on fabric?
CC: Jack is not really an expert in carbon dating.
DL: He's not really a forensic anthropologist. We need to bring in Bones.
CC: Or Charlotte. She's an anthropolgist.
DL: The other theory that I would like to throw out there is that Jacob and his mother were just expert craftsmen. They made those clothes on that loom so well, it would appear that they were only 50 years old in decomposition, when in fact it's several thousand.
CC: Or perhaps the fabric is magic. A lot of theories there, Alan.
As we've gone into this final season and you've introduced new characters like Dogen and Lennon and the other Temple people, and new mysteries, there have been some people who've said, "Okay, they don't have to answer all the old mysteries if they don't want to, but it's not fair for them to keep introducing lots of new ones at this late date." How do you respond to that?
DL: Are there any readers who actually like the show?
Many readers like the show. I like the show. But these questions are out there.
CC: We feel that we as storytellers, basically can only approach the storytelling the way that we do, which is it felt like there was no way that we could just be answering existing questions without the show feeling didactic. There would have been no larger narrative motor. For the show to devolve into running through a checklist of answers, we would have been, honestly, crucified for that version of the show. It's ironic that the episode that's generating so much controversy is one in which we answered questions, but it's not surprising to us. Between what the audience thinks they want and what they will find entertaining - we have tried ot make the show in a way that people would find it entertaining, moving engaging. To do that required having new mysteries. That's the way we operated.
Getting back to Adam and Eve for a second, can you talk me through the thought process of including that flashback to "House of the Rising Sun." Was there ever a thought of not having it in there and hoping the viewer could fill in the blanks, or did you just feel that the skeletons were too obscure a mystery to not have that extra context?
DL: The reason that we put it in certainly wasn't because we thought it was too obscure and we wanted to hit people over the heads with it. It was more a matter of, here's an episode where our characters don't appear in it at all, and we wanted to make it clear to the audience that this little family drama, this dysfunctional relationship between these three people is really responsible for everything that's happening to the passengers of Oceanic 815. We wanted to illustrate that by, at the very end of the show saying, "Oh, right, Jack and Kate and Locke are affected by the fact that Mother decided to raise her kids this way, and Jacob ended up bringing these people to the island." The idea was to say that this chapter of the series is significant to the story we've been telling you, and that the series is about the survivors of Oceanic 815. To have an episode that they did not appear in at all was never our intention.
CC: We also liked the juxtaposition of what those characters were like in "House of the Rising Sun" versus where they are now. We felt it was interesting for the audience to see the growth, the change, the evolution, the degree to which these characters had been affected by their time on the island. And we felt that the most effective way to do that was to recontextualize the Adam and Eve discovery by replaying that scene. It really provided a contrast that shows you how these characters have evolved.
The sideways universe, it seems as if those stories have also been used to illustrate that point. We see a Jack who hasn't been through everything on the island, a Locke who behaves differently, other characters reverting to a season one mode. Was that by design?
DL: Everything is by design. Unfortunately, when you ask that question, if you're not a believer, you say, "They're making it up as they go along," and if you are a believer, you say, "It's all part of a design." It's lose-lose for us, because you think we're just lying if we say everything was by design. I do feel that hopefully the conversation about the sideways will be a different conversation when the series is over than it is now. We knew going into it that the sideways would be a very polarizing form of storytelling.. But as Carlton reiterated earlier, we're doing our best version of ours how. We understand that you can't please all the people all the time, that's the kind of show that "Lost" is. If we tried to please all the people all the time, it's an impossible task. We loved "The Sopranos" ending. It was actually shocking to us the next morning when people were going, "It's a cop-out."' We're looking at it as the best, most poetic thing that we've ever seen on television, and other people were calling it a cop-out, and we got into these very impassioned arguments about it. The fact that he could make a creative choice like that that would create that sort of debate, I'm sure it wasn't his intention to create a debate. He was just doing what he wanted to do - what he felt was right for his show. We're doing the same. Whether or not what we're doing is in the best interests of our show is a matter of debate, and there's no way that we can enter into the debate, because were' the ones who did it. We could say, "Yes, this was great!" And the fans would say that we jumped the shark. I love the idea that some fans are literally saying we jumped the shark last night! 119 hours in! We finally jumped the shark! So good! You guys are going to spare yourselves the agita of the final three hours of the show.
And I should say I was not challenging the whole plan/not-plan issue with that question. What I meant was, was one of the purposes of the sideways a chance to, before we get to the end, revisit these characters in a state similar to how they were before the plane crashed?
CC: The anser to that quesiton is yes. We wanted there to be a symmetry to the show from the first season to the last season. In the first season, the show was very character-centric, and one of the great revelations was discovering who these people were. It's revelatory when you learn Kate is a fugitive and Sawyer's a con man and Hurley's a lottery winner. We wanted to have that same sense of revelation be a part of the final season. We wanted to bring the show back around to the characters and give a sense of this journey kind of coming full circle. We felt the sideways were a good narrative device to do that. You'll see in the end how the narrative closes. It's always how we saw the show working out, and we stand by it.
You've talked about the idea that you're damned if you do, damned if you don't, and you can't please everybody. But how much of a sense of responsibility do you feel you have - that the ending has - to the legacy of the show? There are some people who say, "Oh, if I don't like the ending, this has all been a big waste of time," and others who say they still will enjoy what they watched until then, and then others who say that if you don't stick the landing, they're never going to watch another show like "Lost" for fear of being strung along again.
DL: There are people who are in relationships with loved ones and then that relationship ends horribly and they say I'm never going to fall in love again. Diferent people are going to have different reactions. There are shows like "Seinfeld" where one guy says the "Seinfeld" finale wasn't a great finale, but it doesn't make it not be a great series, because it's a sitcom. "Battlestar" was one where the vocal fanbase said the finale affected in hindsight their entire experience of the show. But other people who said they loved the finale, and it made the series better for them. But because they chose to end their own show, we are opening ourselves up to the fact that an inordinate amoung of attention will be paid to the finale itself. The day after the finale ends, and the month after the finale ends, all anyone is going to be talking about is the finale. But hopefully a year or two or three or five years down the line, people are talking about the series as a whole. And certainly, that perception will be colored by whether or not they liked the finale, and newbies may be less likely to try the show if the zeitgeist says, "The last episode of 'Lost' was so bad that it made every episode that preceded it terrible." That's going to have an affect, but who are we to say what people are going to think?
Okay, finally, I have to ask, simply because it's been driving me nuts for a year and a half: what's going on with showing the other half of the outrigger shootout?
CC: The outrigger shootout is not something we're bending around in gyrations so we can solve it. In the grand scheme of the show, that is a fairly obscure piece of the show. It is your particular obsession...
DL: ...and you're not alone in it.
CC: You're not alone in it. And yes, it would have been great if we had had the opportunity to close the time loop. But you can't get everything done and keeping the narrative going in a straight line. This is one of those things where we made a very conscious choice to ask, "What are the big questions? And most importantly, what are the paths of these characters? Where do they lead?" And we followed those paths and tried not to trip ourselves up getting too diverted from that. We felt that that's the thing that's ultimately going to make the finale work or not work. We got to the point where we made the finale we wanted to make, that was our approach, and I think it was the only approach we could take. We sat here in my office, had breakfast every day for six years, talked about the show, and we used this gut check methodology, where if we both loved something and thought it was cool, that would go in. We applied that same methodology to the finale, and that was the only way we could do it. We came up with a finale that we thought was cool, that was emotional and one we really liked. That's the best we could do.
DL: When we wrote that scene and somebody started shooting at them, we knew exactly who was shooting at them. That is not a dangling thread that we don't know the answer to. That being said, as we started talking about paying that off this season, it felt like the episode was at the service of closing the time loop, as opposed to what the characters might actually be doing in that scenario. It never felt organic. We decided we would rather take our lumps from the people who couldn't scratch that itch than to produce an episode that was in service of putting people in an outrigger and getting shot at.
You put people in a lot of outriggers this season. It feels, frankly, like you're taunting me.
DL: We can't entirely deny that we're taunting you.
CC: Honestly, though, the logistics of getting all the participants in the outriggers in the configuration that was on the A-side of the time loop was actually really daunting.
DL: Considering half of them had been killed off
CC: It's not like we didn't want to do it. Like Damon says, it was just too much of a narrative deviation to do it.
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The bright light is the same "pocket of electro-magnetism" that absorbed everyone in the hatch at the end of season 2. It's the same energy that the dharma initiative struck in "the incident" at the end of season 5.
When Titus threw the knife and it landed laterally on to a rock, he was indicating the islands magnetic properties. The humans who Titus spent his time with obviously were not scientists in a technical sense because the time period predates science as we know it today, but their outset is a direct analogue. Research the island in order to exploit its properties. And this is contrasted with Jacob, who passively accepts his mothers airy-fairy mythological explanation. The mistake would be to take the mothers explanation of the white light as a "defintiive" explanation, when the pseudo-science explanation has been around for seasons now.
Here's where this all falls apart: If we are to believe this spiel, then it is established that Lost was playing with pseudo-science, not spirituality. The watering hole of light is really electromagnetic energy and not something spiritual.
Except that doesn't make sense.
The light turned his brother into a smoke monster (which has absolutely nothing to do with electromagnetic energy, I don't even think there is a pseudo-scientific explanation for that whatsoever). Not to mention that their mother's definition isn't ambiguous because it came from someone who was immortal - as are Jacob and the Man in Black. When you start dealing with deities that are drinking eternal elixir (and we know that both are immortal), you lose the whole "oh, it's ambiguous faith versus science" angle. It's just faith. That's pretty concrete stuff, bro.
It would be ambiguous if it was played in a way that could lead one to believe that the watering hole is scientific in origin and the faith part was unknown. Like, if we didn't know that Jacob and his brother are immortal. That kind of destroys that.
You also proved my point that Lost pretty much abandoned its earlier universe rules. Thanks.
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After reading that interview, it sounds like they're not gonna answer anything important and it'll just be about specific people getting off the island and us seeing them living happily ever after. Worst ending to a series ever.
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Which would be better than some of this half-baked Carnivale garbage.
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I want some Cthulhu shit TEMPLES RISING OUT OF THE SEA AND MORE SMOKE MONSTERS BEING SHITTED OUT INTO JACKS MOUTH.
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So much for that Lost series finale!
http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/ptech/05/12/rogue.satellite.tv/index.html?hpt=Sbin
A rogue satellite is floating through space, threatening to push into another satellite's orbit and interrupt cable TV programming in the United States.
But the company that owns the satellite says they've known about the problem for more than a month and that the impact on cable TV will be minimal.
Galaxy 15, a satellite that catches cable signals and beams them back to Earth, broke loose from its orbit and began a slow, out-of-control drift at about a tenth of a degree per day, according to its owners, communications company Intelsat.
At that rate, the satellite will be close enough for its signals to interfere with the other satellite's signals beginning May 23.
But Dianne VanBeber, a spokeswoman for Luxembourg-based Intelsat, said media reports over the past day or so have drastically overstated the potential impact on television viewers.
"The reality is it's not quite as sexy as it sounds," she said Wednesday. "If we did absolutely nothing, it would create confusion ... [but] we're working with the limited number of customers that are on that satellite and taking active steps to make sure any interference is limited or completely avoided."
She said the chances of avoiding perceptible interference are "pretty good." If there is interference, it would last for hours, not days, she said.
Yves Feltes, a spokesman for SES World Skies -- which owns the other satellite -- issued a statement saying his company is "doing our utmost in order to mitigate any interference into any of our traffic in close coordination with our customers and our competitor Intelstat."
Neither company would comment on which cable TV providers or channels might be affected by any interference between the orbiting satellites. The two satellites will not crash into each other, the companies said.
See NASA's tracking map of satellites orbiting Earth.
VanBeber said Intelsat lost control of the satellite, which was launched in 2005, during a solar storm on April 5. At that time, they announced the problem and began moving customers to another satellite, Galaxy 12.
Recent media reports, including a story from The Associated Press, were apparently prompted by an industry publication updating the story, she said. It prompted such dramatic headlines as "Zombie satellite terrorizes the stratosphere" and "Solar storm creates killer zombie satellite."
But VanBeber said there's no reason to scramble a team of space cowboys to blow up the satellite before chaos ensues.
"It's a very stable, predictable path," she said. "It's not out of control. It's not going to race into the Earth."
VanBeber said that Intelsat is the world's largest user of cable satellites and SES World Skies, based in the Netherlands, is second.
"It's a weird thing to say, but it couldn't have happened to two better companies because we're both very well equipped to deal with these kinds of technical issues," she said.
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I want some Cthulhu shit TEMPLES RISING OUT OF THE SEA AND MORE SMOKE MONSTERS BEING SHITTED OUT INTO JACKS MOUTH.
Why not!
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You've said many times that when people find out who Adam and Eve are, we'll all realize just how long you've been planning the mythology. Well, I went back and watched the "House of the Rising Sun" scene, and Jack says that the clothing looks like it's 50 years old. Is he just not very good at calculating the rate of decay on fabric?
CC: Jack is not really an expert in carbon dating.
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I want some Cthulhu shit TEMPLES RISING OUT OF THE SEA AND MORE SMOKE MONSTERS BEING SHITTED OUT INTO JACKS MOUTH.
i imagine a scene similar to one in king kong. smokey is chasing the losties and they're suddenly out in the open. ''fuck, we're done for,'' they think. but then... another smoke monster appears. the two look at each other and you can totally tell they're about to fight. the losties are in the middle of all of this. they're in awe. mib is kong; the other smoke thing is the dinosaur. they look at mib and explain that they understand why mib wanted to leave the island in the first place. they choose his side. mib gets all emotional and shit. he fights for them. he wants to protect them now.
smokey and mib duke it out, a couple of tornado's come out of nowhere, and both end up dying.
and then penny shows up in a helicopter and they fly home.
that'd be really cool.
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That is a horrible interview.
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The bright light is the same "pocket of electro-magnetism" that absorbed everyone in the hatch at the end of season 2. It's the same energy that the dharma initiative struck in "the incident" at the end of season 5.
When Titus threw the knife and it landed laterally on to a rock, he was indicating the islands magnetic properties. The humans who Titus spent his time with obviously were not scientists in a technical sense because the time period predates science as we know it today, but their outset is a direct analogue. Research the island in order to exploit its properties. And this is contrasted with Jacob, who passively accepts his mothers airy-fairy mythological explanation. The mistake would be to take the mothers explanation of the white light as a "defintiive" explanation, when the pseudo-science explanation has been around for seasons now.
Here's where this all falls apart: If we are to believe this spiel, then it is established that Lost was playing with pseudo-science, not spirituality. The watering hole of light is really electromagnetic energy and not something spiritual.
Except that doesn't make sense.
The light turned his brother into a smoke monster (which has absolutely nothing to do with electromagnetic energy, I don't even think there is a pseudo-scientific explanation for that whatsoever). Not to mention that their mother's definition isn't ambiguous because it came from someone who was immortal - as are Jacob and the Man in Black. When you start dealing with deities that are drinking eternal elixir (and we know that both are immortal), you lose the whole "oh, it's ambiguous faith versus science" angle. It's just faith. That's pretty concrete stuff, bro.
It would be ambiguous if it was played in a way that could lead one to believe that the watering hole is scientific in origin and the faith part was unknown. Like, if we didn't know that Jacob and his brother are immortal. That kind of destroys that.
You also proved my point that Lost pretty much abandoned its earlier universe rules. Thanks.
I'm not sure I follow. So it's okay that an electromagnetic pocket can result in time travel and cancer cures and resurrections and talking to the dead and alternate universes, but it's not okay that an electromagnetic pocket can induce immortality and smoke monsters? Why draw that line? None of it is convincing to begin with, so I don't really see how taking these few additional steps breaks with the earlier rules of the show at all.
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I want some Cthulhu shit TEMPLES RISING OUT OF THE SEA AND MORE SMOKE MONSTERS BEING SHITTED OUT INTO JACKS MOUTH.
i imagine a scene similar to one in king kong. smokey is chasing the losties and they're suddenly out in the open. ''fuck, we're done for,'' they think. but then... another smoke monster appears. the two look at each other and you can totally tell they're about to fight. the losties are in the middle of all of this. they're in awe. mib is kong; the other smoke thing is the dinosaur. they look at mib and explain that they understand why mib wanted to leave the island in the first place. they choose his side. mib gets all emotional and shit. he fights for them. he wants to protect them now.
smokey and mib duke it out, a couple of tornado's come out of nowhere, and both end up dying.
and then penny shows up in a helicopter and they fly home.
that'd be really cool.
It would fade into credits with Cocteau Twins - Pandora playing and I'd be on the other side of the TV, dick out, slapping it around with grand exultation
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is that aura dione in your avatar?
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is that aura dione in your avatar?
Actually Francoise Hard :heartbeat (60's French singer)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQGNpRnFNgM
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Jacob went from masta, to asshole.
Mother was a piece of shit. And man in black dude is the victim all along, and the one we should be rooting for. So, with that said, what's the fucking point in not allowing him to leave that fucking piece of shit island, goddamnit man.
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Just watched the last two episodes. To be honest, they weren't bad...
spoiler (click to show/hide)
...THEY WERE AN ABSOLUTE DISATER. BAD SOUND GOOD IN COMPARISON TO THIS SHIT. I'M NOT BUYING SEASON 6 BLU-RAY. LOST IS DEAD TO ME.
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this show has more holes than a lesbian orgy but god damn it's still better than 95% of the tv shows out there so I will watch it until the end!
LOST :bow2
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Just watched the episode...
The acting and writing in that episode were atrocious. Initially I dismissed it, thinking "eh, child actors." But even after adult versions of Jacob and MIB were revealed, the problem persisted. The episode was interesting at times, but at other times I truly felt embarrassed. One of my brothers is a big Lost fan, the other is the ultimate skeptic. We all watched it tonight and I just had to sit there, and afterwards when my brother was trashing it I couldn't even defend it. Just fuck that.
I love the characters, but clearly they aren't going to answer the questions upon questions that are left.
I would have never imagined that 24 would go out with a far bigger and better bang than Lost. Holy shit.
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uh, the show hasnt ended yet maurice.
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Yea you're right, there are TWO EPISODES LEFT.
Overall this has been a good season, but when compared to the rest of the series it has to rank at or near the bottom. As a final season it's been poor. They wrote themselves into a corner.
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there's still one regular episode left and one what 3 hour special? thats like 4 hours still! That's like 2 movies!
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Yea you're right, there are TWO EPISODES LEFT.
Overall this has been a good season, but when compared to the rest of the series it has to rank at or near the bottom. As a final season it's been poor. They wrote themselves into a corner.
Technically 3 and a half :shh
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Like I said, I love the characters and I can't really act like I've been "betrayed" since I only started watching this a couple years ago. Overall this has been a good season outside of tonight's episode and the first few episodes. But as a final season I don't see how anyone can deny this is disappointing.
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uh, the show hasnt ended yet maurice.
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ouch, that was clumsily written/shot/acted
at least it's place as a mythos side-story, with no main actors, makes it somewhat ignorable
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I just read an interview where the writers state that they did have an explanation for the outrigger scene but they weren't able to fit it in to the season organically :lol
Seems so weird that they wouldn't, considering there's been like a kajillion outrigger scenes this season, anyone of them could've fit. I was still expect it to be Richard/Ben/Miles.
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Hahaha. No Outrigger answer? Fuck this show.
Anyway. Whatever. Fine. I hope the finale is BATSHIT and I hope Jack & Co get to just FUCK UP somebody, but it'll probably be a lot opf whiny baby crying and goodbyes and no cool stuff.
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Did they ever explain those numbers? I might have totally missed that. Or are they going to ignore them? Just like they're ignoring the "importance" of Walt and Claire's baby. ::)
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I believe those were explained away as the numbers on the wall for candidates.
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So Hurley winning the lottery with those numbers was pure coincidence ::)
And the whole story about the dude who got crazy because of those numbers was also something that "just happened". ::)
(http://i41.tinypic.com/1pgk06.jpg) LOST (http://i41.tinypic.com/1pgk06.jpg)
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The electromagnetism did it.
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Re-watched the episode, still bad but maybe not the clusterfuck I thought on first viewing. I actually stopped watching it the first time as all the scences with the kid actors was claw-my-eyes-out bad, and Allison Janney, though a great actress, was seriously not selling it. They should only have been on for like 5 minutes instead of over half the show. Once Titus Welliver came on the show was actually decent. It didn't help though that in trying to portray Jacob as sheltered and naive, they had Mark Pellegrino go full distinguished mentally-challenged fellow.
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So Hurley winning the lottery with those numbers was pure coincidence ::)
And the whole story about the dude who got crazy because of those numbers was also something that "just happened". ::)
(http://i41.tinypic.com/1pgk06.jpg) LOST (http://i41.tinypic.com/1pgk06.jpg)
Pretty much.
They kinda imply that the numbers draw them to the island. Hurley would have never gone on the flight, etc. if he hadn't won the lottery with those numbers so they drew him there. it's a hell of a copout, but whatevs.
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I thought the numbers were done pretty well actually.
I think the most succinct point I've read (from Mark MacDonald's twitter) is that Lost is interesting because it is not told linearly. Were it all told in chronological order, it would be boring as fuck because all the mystery would be explained right at the start.
They said the same thing about Stephen King's Dreamcatcher, but you know what? In the end it was still just four people chasing down an alien and a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow.
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Dreamcatcher, the movie, was pretty crap compared to the book. The book was pretty good and even tied into It.
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Did they ever explain those numbers? I might have totally missed that. Or are they going to ignore them? Just like they're ignoring the "importance" of Walt and Claire's baby. ::)
Yeah, I like how the whole infertility thing has been basically thrown out the window. Now it's like who gives a fuck. "We're sorry for wasting 3 seasons this. We didn't know what the hell we were doing."
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Aaron being raised by anyone else was supposed to be really dangerous or some shit, right? Is he like the antichrist or something? What the hell happened to that? Kate is raising him and he seemed fine the last time I saw him.
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Aaron being raised by anyone else was supposed to be really dangerous or some shit, right? Is he like the antichrist or something? What the hell happened to that? Kate is raising him and he seemed fine the last time I saw him.
They later said the psychic was full of shit.
PS: Full spoilers are out on the next episode. Seems like it'll be a lot better than last week's episode. But then again, last week's episode was supposed to be really good on paper.
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Aaron being raised by anyone else was supposed to be really dangerous or some shit, right? Is he like the antichrist or something? What the hell happened to that? Kate is raising him and he seemed fine the last time I saw him.
They later said the psychic was full of shit.
PS: Full spoilers are out on the next episode. Seems like it'll be a lot better than last week's episode. But then again, last week's episode was supposed to be really good on paper.
oh they did? I don't know, there's been so much shit i've been starting to forget. but that seems like a good way to get rid of that whole thing without having to really answer a question they asked. "nah he was just lying"
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Read the spoilers for the next episode (why do they screen this shit knowing its gonna be leaked everywhere?)
The Kate explanation is distinguished mentally-challenged :lol
Otherwise it sounds much better than that turd last week
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The psychic was proved to be a liar, but that doesn't mean what he said wasn't true. Many characters have stressed the importance of Claire raising Aaron.
Why was Walt special? Why did they let him go so easily? etc
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I'm gonna post my fantard answer, feel free to laugh:
I think the purpose of Walt was to signify that people out there (or on the island) are gifted with abilities. Walt simply gave reason to why Hurley can see people, Miles can talk to them, and Desmond can get static charge but without the cling. He wasnt the reason why, he was just the centerpiece. Like oh Walt was special, so I guess Hurley is too.
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i think my favorite thing about this episode was jacob and mib's mom telling them she made it so they can never hurt each other, and then twenty minutes later jacob kills mib
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Read the spoilers for the next episode (why do they screen this shit knowing its gonna be leaked everywhere?)
The Kate explanation is distinguished mentally-challenged :lol
Otherwise it sounds much better than that turd last week
what is there about kate that needs to be explained? i honestly can't remember.
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wait, is it a kate centric episode or just a random blurb about her? if it's kate centric i'll kill myself
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it's just a small bit, and yes, it is distinguished mentally-challenged
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Read the spoilers for the next episode (why do they screen this shit knowing its gonna be leaked everywhere?)
The Kate explanation is distinguished mentally-challenged :lol
Otherwise it sounds much better than that turd last week
what is there about kate that needs to be explained? i honestly can't remember.
Why Kate is crossed off the list
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Because they figured out she's worthless like we did 4 seasons ago.
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Good guess! But even sillier than that
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spoiler that shit so I don't have to read about the whole episode. Come on.
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No!
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PLEASE
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Holy shit. Here's your dinner after this week's episode:
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_6JPrNHnRVZI/SW5WXZh6soI/AAAAAAAAC9E/zPAPSK8gqJo/s400/eat-crow.jpg)
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Uh, I wouldnt go that far. We thought ATS would be awesome too...
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reading spoilers at this point is a pretty potent example of self-crowing.
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Uh, I wouldnt go that far. We thought ATS would be awesome too...
I don't know. This one sets up The End really well. It also explains some of the things people were bitching about ATS not explaining and dooming the show for it as a result.
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Finally got around to watching the episode from last Tuesday. :fbm
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i wonder if the actors had to do some actor-y tricks to convince themselves that this isn't as stupid as it sounds
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I thought Widmore and crew were going to use the secret passage to escape, but instead they just hid in a closest? And what about Miles? And I thought that Richard couldn't die? :wtf
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I thought Widmore and crew were going to use the secret passage to escape, but instead they just hid in a closest? And what about Miles? And I thought that Richard couldn't die? :wtf
Uh, they cant escape. We already saw whats in Ben's passage. It's a small room.
There's still 2.5 hours left... at least wait until its over before asking
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I thought Widmore and crew were going to use the secret passage to escape, but instead they just hid in a closest? And what about Miles? And I thought that Richard couldn't die? :wtf
Uh, they cant escape. We already saw whats in Ben's passage. It's a small room.
There's still 2.5 hours left... at least wait until its over before asking
Forgot about that, although their dialog made it sound like they were running somewhere [Richard's "I'll give you a head start."].
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i don't think there's anything that can salvage this show now
it's like at the beginning of this season everyone from the past five seasons was fired and replaced with people who had never watched the show before, who were then shown the dvd sets on fast forward and were told "okay, now wrap most of this up"
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When the show ends, I'd be more than glad to read everyone's gripes and complaints.
As it is you are just talking windbags to me - windbags who appear to be enjoying the show as much as I am
You could always watch V
Doesn't everyone like V?
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i doubt 2.5 hours is going to make the previous 16 hours less distinguished mentally-challenged
i enjoy watching it in the sense that i enjoy making little bets with myself than it can't get any worse and then laughing when it does
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Hey, whatever works man. Sometimes we need a pickmeup when the cards are against you.
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i think i'm just gonna pretend it ended when juliet set off the bomb, because up until that point i really did enjoy the show
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I thought Widmore and crew were going to use the secret passage to escape, but instead they just hid in a closest? And what about Miles? And I thought that Richard couldn't die? :wtf
Richard couldn't kill himself, which is why he asked Jack to light the TNT for him. He could die, just not by his own hand.
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[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDJQEtXuvEw[/youtube]
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The GAF thread is a complete 180 from last week :rofl
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we're going to a concert wear this. yes! no more new fucking dharma stations for finale :punch
desmond actually tolerable this episode, the new world character navigations were its most keen invitation yet.. wider gaze, nicely modulated and the character pieces thankfully taking its emotional breaths from, really, the season's only poignant episodes (the substitute and drlinus)
the old dharma houses chapter delivered. welcome linus machinations. claustrophobic locke/widmore scene. terryoquinn usual praise.
sadly following the AcrosstheSea shipwreck, jacob cruelly ripped of any allure now.
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Hey, guess what, this last episode was good!
Predictable at times, but good nonetheless.
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Episode was alright. Kinda interesting at end, but overall it was eh. Whitmore dying/Ben turning was cool. That's about it
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I think Lost is some metafictional story which reflects Lost fans. Like John Locke and the island, we were all intrigued with the mystery, mythology, and exciting potential the show had. But, Locke is dead, a patsy to fate’s cruelty. And us one-time fans, only still watching because we need resolution, realize the promise and potential will never be paid off. The two, superbadass mythological demigods know little more than we do. The “rules” can’t even be explained, let alone introduced. It is whatever the writers tell us.
http://www.whylostsucks.com/2010/05/11/episode-15-across-the-sea/
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What's more sad. The fact that people feel the need to read a "whylostsucks" site or that someone decided the need for one in the first place?
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After that last episode, you really don't need any more explanation to wrap up the story. I mean, if you think about it, there's your answer about the Others' list in comparison to Jacob's.
You are going to get our "sideways universe" explanation in the finale. I would say that's about it.
Although I have a feeling that we are going to have a shitload of old castmembers come back for the finale. Including Walt. They wouldn't release a poster with EVERYONE if EVERYONE wasn't going to be involved.
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Walt was in an earlier episode. Of course, there wasn't an explanation on why Dharma wanted him. In fact, the more I think about it, the more the whole Dharma arc seemed like a waste of time. Lost boils down to two gods fighting it out, and what exactly did Dharma or the US military (S5) have to do with anything.
Bloodwake: and what explanation is that. The others wanted Jacob's candidates dead?
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I liked Lost better when it was Dharma doin' thangs.
Or when it was Ben and Charles fighting over the island. When you get down to it, this past season has exposed them as nothing more than clueless pawns.
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Sounds like a JRPG... lolllllllllllllllll
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What happened to the rules barring Ben and Charles from killing each other lolol
Gotta agree with Rumbler. At one point Ben was one of the best characters on the show. When Charles was introduced I still couldn't trust Ben as a "good guy." For most of S6 he's been nothing more than a travel companion.
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Duders... it's a fucking show on ABC. What did you really expect?
You want tight plotlines? Watch The Wire. Lost is simply escapist entertainment that hit it big. Babylon 5 but popular.
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Or when it was Ben and Charles fighting over the island. When you get down to it, this past season has exposed them as nothing more than clueless pawns.
Isn't that the point!?
It makes a huge chunk of the series just feel pointless. The battle between Ben and Charles ultimately didn't mean a thing, because the real battle was going on between Jacob and Smoke Monster.
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How the fuck is it pointless? That's like taking every mystery novel ever written and ripping out all but the last chapter because the rest of it is just pointless.
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The battle at Hoth is useless because Vader is Luke's father I mean whats the point?
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I liked the show better when it was Ben vs. Widmore than Jacob vs. MIB. They should have just stuck with that.
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I liked the show better when it was Ben vs. Widmore than Jacob vs. MIB. They should have just stuck with that.
Yeah, that's pretty much what I've been trying to say.
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I liked the show better when it was Ben vs. Widmore than Jacob vs. MIB. They should have just stuck with that.
Yeah, that's pretty much what I've been trying to say.
Agreed as well
And it does feel pointless because that thread hasn't been explained - in fact it was completely dropped. This season has been completely dominated by "Jacob vs MIB" with everyone else in between.
Lost died with Locke
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That's like taking every mystery novel ever written and ripping out all but the last chapter because the rest of it is just pointless.
If it's a mystery novel filled with red hearings that take up three-fourths of the length and then at the end it throws out a completely new plot line, then yes.
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Dharma and the Ben vs Charles arcs dominated S2-S4. S5 also was heavily dominated by Dharma. All that shit has been thrown out the window for S6, which instead decides to focus on warring gods or whatever.
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Bubububut lost has always had a tinge of spirituality going for it
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I liked the show better when it was Ben vs. Widmore than Jacob vs. MIB. They should have just stuck with that.
Yeah, that's pretty much what I've been trying to say.
Agreed.
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Bubububut lost has always had a tinge of spirituality going for it
oh jesus christ. it actually has. let's not do this again.
and yes, the last season has sucked compared to the rest. but i just hate how people are all of a sudden acting like the whole series was a waste of time. Fuck that. It's been incredible. I've never been more interested in a series and one has never made me more giddy when I think about the plot lines. The fact that they *may* have screwed up the ending doesn't negate the 5 awesome years I've had with this show.
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This show sucks, everyone boycott the finale and watch Fringe on Blu-ray instead.
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Will buy Lost complete series on Blu instead
Just kidding, will buy DVD
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standard def Hurley :drool
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Mmm, off screen gut shots
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This show sucks, everyone boycott the finale and watch Fringe on Blu-ray instead.
No boycott, but I will do the latter. Only way I can watch the show after watching the first season on it. It looked way too awesome.
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Walt was in an earlier episode. Of course, there wasn't an explanation on why Dharma wanted him. In fact, the more I think about it, the more the whole Dharma arc seemed like a waste of time. Lost boils down to two gods fighting it out, and what exactly did Dharma or the US military (S5) have to do with anything.
Bloodwake: and what explanation is that. The others wanted Jacob's candidates dead?
No. The Others' list is the list Jacob gave them to keep as their own earlier in the show. Obviously none of the candidates (other than Locke) was ever invited to be one of them. Jacob obviously did that on purpose, just as he obviously touched the candidates' lives off of the island. He wanted the candidates to be alone like him, and being an Other or a leader of one didn't accomplish this. I think Locke was crossed off the list BEFORE he died, when he started to lead the Others, because others depended on him at that point.
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Walt was in an earlier episode. Of course, there wasn't an explanation on why Dharma wanted him. In fact, the more I think about it, the more the whole Dharma arc seemed like a waste of time. Lost boils down to two gods fighting it out, and what exactly did Dharma or the US military (S5) have to do with anything.
Bloodwake: and what explanation is that. The others wanted Jacob's candidates dead?
No. The Others' list is the list Jacob gave them to keep as their own earlier in the show. Obviously none of the candidates (other than Locke) was ever invited to be one of them. Jacob obviously did that on purpose, just as he obviously touched the candidates' lives off of the island. He wanted the candidates to be alone like him, and being an Other or a leader of one didn't accomplish this. I think Locke was crossed off the list BEFORE he died, when he started to lead the Others, because others depended on him at that point.
I don't think they were even thinking that far ahead when they wrote that shit in season 3 and 4. :lol
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They had a finale event in New York:
Just got back from attending the New York Times Talk Live LOST event, having watched it in-theater.
It was like a 90 min class on screenwriting. I would highly recommend it to anyone who’s teaching scriptwriting to a high-school level class, as long as the student can get into LOST.
Jorge Garcia and Michael Emerson made a surprise appearance, which actually was a little touching.
Damon really played the funny man and Carlton the straight guy.
The interviewer was very intelligent and asked some great questions.
They showed classic clips to which Darlton commented on:
Jack and Locke arguing over “faith vs. science” and Locke asking Jack to push the button inside the Swan Hatch. They pointed out that it wasn’t so much that Locke didn’t have faith, he said he didn’t want to do it alone, and needed Jack, referencing the famous “live together, die alone” speech. They mentioned that the scene in the submarine is where they came full circle on Jack’s transformation because he was now the man of faith trying to get Sawyer to NOT do something, (fiddle with the bomb) and Sawyer was playing the role of the empiricist this time.
Desmond finally reaching Penny on the phone in the Constant, Sayid in the background. Talked about how ridiculous it was that his mind time traveled to 1997 to ensure Penny would call him in 2004, Faraday’s rat maze, etc. And how it was the hardest and longest episode for them to break. They wanted to reveal time travel in a personal way that involved endearing characters and lots of emotion. That’s why Desmond remarks to Faraday’s mathematical explanation of a Constant: “can it be a person?”
The Dharma scene where Hurley debates time travel rules with Miles, and finally stumps him. They anticipated the audience having the same sort of questions that Hurley did, and the scene pretty much already took place within the writer’s room.
Some *really* good questions from the audience: “why must there be a human presence on the island?” which they said they’ve never been asked before but couldn’t answer. One guy asked a question which seemed to startle Darlton, especially Damon, and they basically said “We don’t want to spoil the ending to the show” as their answer, which made me think the guy was *extremely* close in his guessing the global reveal. I’ll give you a hint: he asked if there was an allusion in people doubting the button-pushing in the hatch as a critical necessity, and the critical necessity of protecting the lightcave. There was a lot more to it, but that’s all I’m giving. Sorry.
CONFIRMED SPOILERS TO FOLLOW, BEWARE:
Walt in the finale, confirmed by Carlton, to which Damon seemed a little shocked
First 10 mins will be a huge Star Wars reference (Darlton didn’t like Damon saying this, but Damon said ‘but its ok to drop the Walt-bomb?!”)
We’ll learn more about Eloise Hawking and what exactly she was doing as a “timecop” with Desmond in both timelines
The characters will debate exactly what Widmore was doing back on the island
Look for a reference to the fateful scene where Desmond and Jack first met: “you’ve got to lift it up, brotha” (a fan asked this question to which Carlton said “you won’t be disappointed”
They showed a snippet from the finale, and it was EXACTLY word-for-word from those leaked script pages on the net: MIB, Ben, and Sawyer at the well, MIB talking about sinking the island, Ben frustrated that he thought he could be on the island, MIB saying Ben could get on a boat with him, them finding a dog’s tracks.
END SPOILERS
I’m not even gonna say “overall, it was great”. Because I was smiling and enjoying every minute of it. I’ll leave it here.
Namaste!
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God. The Constant was such an incredible episode. Everytime I think about it I just remember why I love Lost so much and even if the end sucks shit, I'll defend at least the first 4 seasons to my fucking death.
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Walt was in an earlier episode. Of course, there wasn't an explanation on why Dharma wanted him. In fact, the more I think about it, the more the whole Dharma arc seemed like a waste of time. Lost boils down to two gods fighting it out, and what exactly did Dharma or the US military (S5) have to do with anything.
Bloodwake: and what explanation is that. The others wanted Jacob's candidates dead?
No. The Others' list is the list Jacob gave them to keep as their own earlier in the show. Obviously none of the candidates (other than Locke) was ever invited to be one of them. Jacob obviously did that on purpose, just as he obviously touched the candidates' lives off of the island. He wanted the candidates to be alone like him, and being an Other or a leader of one didn't accomplish this. I think Locke was crossed off the list BEFORE he died, when he started to lead the Others, because others depended on him at that point.
I don't think they were even thinking that far ahead when they wrote that shit in season 3 and 4. :lol
Well, that list was season 2
I think there's pretty much 3 points where they planned ahead and haters and lovers of the show have to accept this. After the pilot got picked up. After Season 2. And whatever point in Season 3 when they finalized the end date for the show. Some elements they inserted at earlier points without quite having an endgame plan (Walt) may have been abandoned, some were picked up and run with.
:patel
Why Lost-trolls revel in holding it to an impossible standard and then revel in nitpicking every single fucking thing I have no clue.
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*shrug*
I always just see these kinds of things as pretty vague and open for argument and I assume they were done that way on purpose with no real answer. Keep in mind, that's what I LOVE about the show. Half of my fun with the show was discussing plot lines and ideas with fellow Lost lovers. I'm of the belief that only a handful of things were actually ever planned out and carried through. Everything else was just winging it and keeping it vague for viewer discussion.
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Walt is in th finale apparently. I think its just for the sideways world though
edit: I see manabyte posted it
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hey demi,
come beat my dick during the finale. I'll give you Himumu afterwards.
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Ew
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i like how i'm a troll for pointing out flaws and inconsistencies and "mysteries" which were made out to be veryveryimportant for 4-5 seasons then unceremoniously dumped as unimportant
stringing your audience along for 5 years and then shrugging, knowing the diehards will defend it to the end and do the work of plugging plotholes or making excuses for your failings, that shows a great deal of contempt for your fan base
sort of like nintendo, and their fans
if you're calling people trolls for pointing out plot points which make no sense and directly contradict events which happened earlier, you need to learn what critical examination is, and learn to "deal" with that
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<--- is dealin'
I'm not even a diehard, but I alternate better enjoying how much seems to piss people off yet they keep watching, and genuinely po'd when they make complaints that aren't even legitimate.
From last page:
i think my favorite thing about this episode was jacob and mib's mom telling them she made it so they can never hurt each other, and then twenty minutes later jacob kills mib
Mom told him it's something "worse than death", on his way to killing him he say's "oh I'm not going to kill you brother" in previous episode about how much he hated Jacob, MiB talked about how he "stole his body". Don't like it, fine, but don't say it's a contradiction or plothole.
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That looks like trollin to me
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Good episode. LOST IS BACK
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<--- is dealin'
I'm not even a diehard, but I alternate better enjoying how much seems to piss people off yet they keep watching, and genuinely po'd when they make complaints that aren't even legitimate.
From last page:
i think my favorite thing about this episode was jacob and mib's mom telling them she made it so they can never hurt each other, and then twenty minutes later jacob kills mib
Mom told him it's something "worse than death", on his way to killing him he say's "oh I'm not going to kill you brother" in previous episode about how much he hated Jacob, MiB talked about how he "stole his body". Don't like it, fine, but don't say it's a contradiction or plothole.
okay, a copout, then
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HE'S NOT DEAD, HE JUST THREW HIS UNCONSCIOUS BODY INTO THE HOLE AND HE SEEMINGLY CAME OUT AS ANOTHER UNEXPLAINED LIFEFORM!!!1
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all the answers, they've been right there in front of your face the whole time, it's not their fault if you didn't pick up on them, quit trollin'
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HE'S NOT DEAD, HE JUST THREW HIS UNCONSCIOUS BODY INTO THE HOLE AND HE SEEMINGLY CAME OUT AS ANOTHER UNEXPLAINED LIFEFORM!!!1
but he's not dead, he just threw his unconscious body into the pisshole and he came out as whatever the thing is we've seen since season 1. I'm not seeing your point ???
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don't like LOST? go away then. We know the show is flawed but we still enjoy it. You aren't a fucking smarty pants for pointing out your dislike for the show.
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don't like NINTENDO? go away then. We know the system is flawed but we still enjoy it. You aren't a fucking smarty pants for pointing out your dislike for the Wii.
:smug
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don't like LOST? go away then. We know the show is flawed but we still enjoy it. You aren't a fucking smarty pants for pointing out your dislike for the show.
i'll post wherever the fuck i want, sugar bear
don't like it, use your trusty ignore option and you never have to worry about seeing it again
since when did this board turn into a bunch of pussies who can't stand to look at a little criticism
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don't like LOST? go away then. We know the show is flawed but we still enjoy it. You aren't a fucking smarty pants for pointing out your dislike for the show.
i'll post wherever the fuck i want, sugar bear
don't like it, use your trusty ignore option and you never have to worry about seeing it again
since when did this board turn into a bunch of pussies who can't stand to look at a little criticism
fine post whatever you want asshole, I'll still call it like i see it. BTW you are a cunt
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don't like NINTENDO? go away then. We know the system is flawed but we still enjoy it. You aren't a fucking smarty pants for pointing out your dislike for the Wii.
:smug
uhh i fucking hate nintendo but i dont go around trolling in nintendo threads about it because i'm not a prick.
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Hay guys I heard this season is gonna get an Emmy nom for Outstanding Comedy Series lolol
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know what, fuck it, do what ya'll want. Not like Evilbore has ever been a place to have coherent discussion about ANYTHING anyway.
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explain how legitimate criticism is not coherent discussion
i'm not the one losing my shit and flailing about because i didn't like a post on a message board
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explain how legitimate criticism is not coherent discussion
i'm not the one losing my shit and flailing about because i didn't like a post on a message board
actually in truth i wasn't even mad until you said "ignore me if you don't like it"! I was hurt! but you know what now I fucking hate you for it, and I won't ignore you, oh no I never ignore people. Piss me off enough and I'll stalk your ass in every thread you go in until you IGNORE me cause that's my ninja way.
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yeah that's not crazy at all
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yeah that's not crazy at all
you obviously haven't been paying much attention these last 4 years. am i that forgettable
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See, this is why we should all watch Fringe instead.
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See, this is why we should all watch Fringe instead.
Fuck you too will you suck I hate u
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i have add
or is it adhd
i forget
what were we talking about, and why is this board so SLOW
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At one point Ben was one of the best characters on the show. When Charles was introduced I still couldn't trust Ben as a "good guy." For most of S6 he's been nothing more than a travel companion.
'drlinus' horror of an entire life's misplaced faith earned the the first real nuance and sadness of Ben's turmoil in the series. It chanced a 'redemption' from a place you remarked as difficult to accept (still couldn't trust ben as a good guy) His relapse last episode also created a tricky, difficult idea of reconciliation in the parallel worlds so his arc remains exciting outside of the usual 'ooh myserious' halting, leering patterns.
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The previous seasons are undeniably good, but given this disappointing finale it's gonna be hard to defend the show for some time. I used to dismiss Lost trolls from friends/family, saying things would be sorted out in the last season, the writers were planning shit, etc. But the last two seasons kinda threw that out the window
Fanboys will always defend something. But as a more sane Lost fan I can't help but wonder about what could have been. Lost could wind up being seen as the new Dallas, if the finale is the disappointment I'm expecting
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Do not watch this video unless you have watched the latest episodes.
Fan made promo, no spoilers of the finale.
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-76O2_F9xiM[/youtube]
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[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di3w1yV4Ehg[/youtube]
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"I f***ed your son's dog."
"What?"
:lol
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:rofl
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Hurley says goodbye to 'Lost'
Jorge Garcia writes about the popular series' end
By JORGE GARCIA
At 5 a.m. on April 24, I became unemployed.
I just wrapped my six-season run on "Lost." The job that went above and beyond anything I could have imagined was over.
When I auditioned for "Lost," I was just another out-of-work actor struggling to land a pilot. When I first went in to meet the producers, there wasn't any material for me, except a few sides they had for the character Sawyer.
I felt great about the audition; so great, in fact, that getting the part wasn't important because I knew I couldn't have done any better. Then I got the call that I was going to test, and that they were going to write scenes specifically for me. I remember noticing I was the only Hurley in the room waiting to test. I called my agent from the parking lot afterward and said, "I don't know what it meant but it felt like a good thing."
When I got hired I hadn't even seen the pilot script. All I knew was that it was a J.J. Abrams show and that it would shoot in Hawaii. I figured, if anything, I had just scored an extended Hawaiian vacation.
Moving to Hawaii was a dream come true. When I worked the magazine stand at Borders in Westwood, I remember seeing a picture of Kelsey Grammer in his Hawaiian home on the cover of Architectural Digest and thinking that having a home in Hawaii was a good benchmark for success. Not two months in my new apartment in L.A., I was trying to figure out what to pack for a show that I had no idea how long would last. Now six years later, I walk around my house trying to figure out what to pack from all of the stuff I have amassed in Hawaii over the show's run.
During the pilot and the first summer of shooting we bonded quickly as a cast. After all, not unlike the show's premise, we literally found ourselves on an island with one another. We'd go to each other's houses on the weekends and nights when we weren't shooting. When the shows started airing, we would usually gather at the house of whomever the show was going to feature that week to watch and congratulate each other.
We had no information about what was going on beyond what we read in the script each week. We knew we were making TV that was not like anything seen before and crossed our fingers hoping we would find an audience who liked what we were doing.
The series premiere brought in better numbers than we anticipated and I remember saying to the other actors the next day, "I hope you like it in Hawaii because we may be here for a while."
As the seasons progressed, moments of being recognized on the street grew exponentially. There was a time during season one when all I had to do was tie my hair back to become invisible. Obviously, that does nothing for me now; neither does wearing a hat and sunglasses. At times both Daniel Dae Kim and Terry O'Quinn remarked how they enjoyed disappearing when they were around me as I would be the only one getting recognized.
Hawaii has been a wonderful place to hide for six years. Sometimes I could almost convince myself that "Lost" was a just a little show I did with friends in the jungle. I always liked to think of us as the tinkers in "A Midsummer Night's Dream" until something would shake that fantasy and I'd be forced to recognize how huge the show was becoming, like getting nominated for a Golden Globe. J.J., always the consummate mensch, wanted my experience to be enjoyable and easy at the awards, so he gifted me my first custom-tailored tuxedo.
I think the time spent under the cast tent on set will be what I'll miss the most. We sang songs to Terry and Naveen's guitar playing, made valiant group efforts to complete a Friday edition of the New York Times crossword puzzle and played a lot of Scrabble.
My last day on "Lost" was also my longest: 20 hours. Without going into details, I can say the shoot was dangerous, physical and wet. But what could be more appropriate? How else could we end this epic show without an epic marathon night of shooting? At the end of it all we all remarked how we expected the end to be more emotional for us, but we were too tired to cry.
I'll admit I got a little teary with Matthew Fox. I thanked him for everything he taught me, including taking me on his trip to Japan to see Green Day that first summer of shooting. At the time, flying at the last minute to a foreign country was way out of my comfort zone, but then again nothing on "Lost" was ever in my comfort zone.
I stuck around after even after I wrapped to see the martini shot of the entire show. I could feel director Jack Bender's resistance to call "print" on that last take. In fact I'm pretty sure he asked for one more take to delay the inevitable.
I still don't think the end of it all has hit me yet. Maybe I'll feel it when the finale finally airs Sunday. Or maybe it will hit me when I board the plane at Honolulu Airport for the last time as a Hawaiian resident.
I have no clue what my next adventure is going to be, I just know this job is going to be a hard one to follow.
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http://espn.go.com/blog/sportscenter/post/_/id/53066/josh-elliott-and-tom-brady-clear-up-everything-you-need-to-know-about-lost-youll-see (http://espn.go.com/blog/sportscenter/post/_/id/53066/josh-elliott-and-tom-brady-clear-up-everything-you-need-to-know-about-lost-youll-see)
:rofl
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OMG :lol :lol
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http://espn.go.com/blog/sportscenter/post/_/id/53066/josh-elliott-and-tom-brady-clear-up-everything-you-need-to-know-about-lost-youll-see (http://espn.go.com/blog/sportscenter/post/_/id/53066/josh-elliott-and-tom-brady-clear-up-everything-you-need-to-know-about-lost-youll-see)
:rofl
Better than the final season of Lost so far.
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[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di3w1yV4Ehg[/youtube]
If I fuck him, he'll never be the same
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:rofl Damon Lindelof just tweeted begging people to not read spoilers.
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If they don't explain how they were able to time travel then I'm going to rage.
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(http://i47.tinypic.com/18en4o.jpg)
fap FAP FAP
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Didn't they already do that when Locke had to fix the donkey wheel? I think that's all you're getting.
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Didn't they already do that when Locke had to fix the donkey wheel? I think that's all you're getting.
If that's the case I will be raging shortly.
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In response to Lindelof begging on Twitter for people to not read spoilers, a guy set up a bot who is spamming the spoiler to anyone who mentions Lost on Twitter :rofl. If you want to know it's below.
Do not click if you don't want to know how it ends!
spoiler (click to show/hide)
jack sacrifices himself & sinks the island, desmond merges everyone & sideways timeline becomes the true timeline
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(http://i47.tinypic.com/18en4o.jpg)
fap FAP FAP
Fuck, I think I could slide my whole forearm under one of dem' titties
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I haven't seen any spoilers for that on DarkUFO or Lostpedia, so I'm willing to say that is fake
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Aren't those two sites sitting on spoilers until tomorrow?
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so close to the end. i feel i should just gtf off the internet to avoid spoilers.
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hm so ABC is landing the finale midweek on a Sunday of the LOST season. meaning 2 more days for Australia and the cautious net browsing. and we just had a breakthrough with the last 10 episodes screening only 8 hours after the US airtime. oh well at least we're not stranded in the season 2/3 era of delayed telecast. those days were just sad.
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Do the spoilers sound legit? More importantly, is it stupid
so glad I'll be able to see it on monday, instead of waiting until wedsnday (I have to watch it on hulu)
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If true, it'll be your favorite episode ever.
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DarkUFO is a fucking pussy:
Update: 23rd May Over the last 24hrs I've had so many emails for various people involved in the show and so many emails from fans asking not to post the spoilers for finale as well as about 100 very nasty hate emails that I've decided it's just not worth posting these spoilers this close to the Final ever episode. Sorry to those who were looking forward to the spoilers, but it's just not worth the grief I've been getting. You should still be careful in case they are released elsewhere on the net.
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you have half a day to 'endure'.
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hm so ABC is landing the finale midweek on a Sunday of the LOST season. meaning 2 more days for Australia and the cautious net browsing. and we just had a breakthrough with the last 10 episodes screening only 8 hours after the US airtime. oh well at least we're not stranded in the season 2/3 era of delayed telecast. those days were just sad.
Just watch it on Veetle or NinjaVideo or something
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old fashioned tv screen is the only way for this one. i'm ok to wait thanks.
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LONGEST WAIT EVER
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I'm free from work tomorrow. Going to sleep now. The first thing I'll do when I wake up is download and watch the final episodes.
Season 6 has been pretty underhwelming so far, but I loved the previous seasons. Can't believe the show is almost over. :bawl
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Third, I implore you to change your avatar back to Keeley.
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When will lost start tonight? in how many minutes/hours?
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Like in 10 minutes.
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Awesome!
HD stream.
http://www.veetle.com/view/index.html#4bb345a29e052
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Live blogging my disappointment.
EXPERIENCE THE MEDIOCRITY, LIVE!
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Two dated Star Wars references in a row. Sweet, way to pander to your nerd base without doing anything substantive.
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I haven't noticed anything.
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OH LOOK THEY REMEMBERED THEY WERE ON AN ISLAND AND THEY DIED TEARS LOL :yuck
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O SNAP! I TOLD YOU ALL BITCHES MY BOY WOULDN'T GET PUNKED BY NO DOOR
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Now they're all walking as a group? This is the worst hyped war ever.
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SO DIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTY
Jack is my husband
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These commercials are fucking ridiculous. Willco, if you ever hit it big I'm not gonna watch your show unless you get a deal with HBO or Showtime
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too many commercials :/
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hey, look what a load of bullshit they dragged into the boat
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are there always so many commercials?
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Admit it, Eel. You love Frank,
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yeah, i heard they were charging superbowl money for 30 second spots
probably why abc happily gave them that extra 30 minutes
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Admit it, Eel. You love Frank,
i do like the character, but there's no way he'd have made it off that sub
UNLESS MAGIC
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I knew he didn't die. He wouldn't get punked by a door.
O LOOK WINCEST HAS RETURNED!
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magnets how do they work?1
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WHATS IN THE HOLE OMG ITS A COMMERCIAL
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Willco's new movie looks great. I heard he gets naked in it
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and now it's on record, jack clearly admitting locke was right all along and he was just being a giant pussyboy for 5 seasons
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Don't spoil the film for everybody :shh
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i think if anyone clicks this thread now it's their own fault and they should consider it a virtual submarine door to the head
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all of abc's new fall shows look kinda shitty
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This shit is awesome so far. Its being aptly described as a fucking reunion episode so far but apparently I care about all the characters more than I realized.
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that was a lovely high definition zit on charlie's forehead
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omg he picked up the magic rock
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Oh no, he unplugged the center of the Earth!
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FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
JACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCK ME IN THE ASS
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:rofl
The golden butthole had a buttplug!
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LOST! the commercial!!
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This show is so stupid. Desmond moved a magic rock from the magic light pool and it got sucked into the Earth's core and Locke is human now? Did anyone think this shit out?
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bububu where will all the light go now?
i can see where this is heading and my eyes, already they are rolling
btw it would have been much funnier if sliders desmond had to beat the shit out of everyone to get them to remember
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Is it me or would this last season been far more enjoyable if at the point where the parallel universe was created, the island storyline was just dropped completely? And it just focused on Desmond trying to get people to remember and forge previous relationships?
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this is my first time to watch lost with commercials, annoying as hell.
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LOST Nintendo fans need to boycott Lost now (they just aired the Mario Kart spoof commercial)
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I HAVE SEEN THIS PLACENTA BEFORE
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THIS IS SO TOUCHING SNIFF
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THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE
PSYCHE ITS A COMMERCIAL :lol
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OH GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD I AM CUMMING
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FLYING FIST
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if he's not locke, and you know he's not locke, and you even told him to stop pretending he's locke, then why did you shout out locke's name
dumbass
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fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
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FLYING FIST
:lol
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there's still over an hour left, how are they going to drag thiCOMMERICIAL
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two man enter, one-man leave.
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he didnt say locke he said
MAN IN BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK
:rofl
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there's still over an hour left, how are they going to drag thiCOMMERICIAL
THE ANTICIPATION IS MOUNTING
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YOU KNOW THIS IS EPIC BECAUSE IT IS AN AERIAL HELICOPTER SHOT EPIC
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THIS. IS. LOST!!!
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I can't believe you are bitching about this amazing finale about crazy things in a show you all liked:
-after a smoke monster
-time travel
-electromagnetism
-flashforwards flashbacks etc.
Just pointing that out. Continue.
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The GAF thread is so embarassing. Anyway! One Piece > Lost.
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fuckin kate
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I can't believe you are bitching about this amazing finale about crazy things in a show you all liked:
-after a smoke monster
-time travel
-electromagnetism
-flashforwards flashbacks etc.
Just pointing that out. Continue.
I don't understand what you are trying to bitch about
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Fucking Locke, what a piece of shit.
EAT GROUND
TWICE :rofl
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yes but your boy couldn't do it, he had to be rescued
by kate
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Reposting this amazing scene
(http://i48.tinypic.com/118lpn7.gif)
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This has been pretty sick.
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Okay all trolling aside, that scene in the hospital was legitimately awesome
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The rain is gone!
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:bow Hurley
Fuck pussy when you got hurley :heart
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Kate is such a fucking hoe bag. She only wants the guy she can't have. When Sawyer was on the island and she wasn't, she wanted Sawyer. Then she came back and Sawyer was like FUK OFF and now she wants Jack because he's going down. Fuck you bitch.
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they should have come up with a legitimate name for the man in black, that's such sloppy writing in a lame attempt to leave one unsolved mystery
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5 minutes between commercials? Holy Jesus they don't give a fuck at all.
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:lol Lost
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they should have come up with a legitimate name for the man in black, that's such sloppy writing in a lame attempt to leave one unsolved mystery
Just another example of sloppy writing in a season of sloppy writing.
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Oh my god ABCs summer/fall slate looks so bad. "Please don't make me shoot you this is my first day" :lol
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maybe nbc has a shot at crawling out of the ratings shithouse after all
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Hey how the hell did they get Ben out from under that tree? Did they even show it?
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Hey, between the crap ABC let's slide on Lost and their fall slate, maybe I have a future there after all!
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Hey how the hell did they get Ben out from under that tree? Did they even show it?
MIRACLES!1
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they used the same acme product that saved frank from drowning unconscious in a flooding sub
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From someone who doesn't post here anymore:
hopefully the last hour
44:55
is a commercial-free hour of Kate dying
44:57
brought to you by Ford
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hahaha there's like commercials every two minutes now
pretty soon they're just gonna show the logo and then cut to commercial
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is this shitty show over yet
i wanted to look at other places to understand what is going on and all i see is people going "OMG someone flashed to the dimension x magic I AM CRYING *farts into own mouth*
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Yeah, the commercials are getting to me now.
Still fucking awesome though.
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To give the writers credit, they haven't even tried to resolve any of the mysteries and have decided to write a Seinfeld-esque reunion finale instead. I was hoping for some overblown monologues and crappy answers.
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From someone who doesn't post here anymore:
hopefully the last hour
44:55
is a commercial-free hour of Kate dying
44:57
brought to you by Ford
MAF? Oh and hahahahha :lol
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is this shitty show over left
i wanted to look at other places to understand what is going on and all i see is people going "OMG someone flashed to the dimension x magic I AM CRYING *farts into own mouth*
Pretty much. From someone smarter than me:
so they are not going to resolve the plot
and "focusing on the character relationships" means ignoring anything which happened over the past 5.9 seasons and just having a fanfic reunion show
:lol
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Hurley and Jack are going to kiss
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Jack's reign as the new Jacob was awfully short lived.
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I see ABC couldn't spring for some decent CG.
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Jack was getting hopped up on magic water
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the acting's been pretty decent in this, everyone's bucking for that last-shot emmy nomination
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Well, Lost has always been a character driven show, so I'm not surprised.
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I like how the writers aren't even going to bother to explain the magic water well. Eh-oh-el.
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Yep, nothing was explained. I'm a huge sap so I'm cool with all this emotional shit but what the Island was, who Jacob's Mom was and why the Island was being protected, what the fuck WAS Smokey? Nothing.
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We got a glorified reunion ep. Typical Lost.
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FUCKING MIRACLES
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lieutenant locke got magic legs
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Lost fans utterly owned. Glad I never watched this POS.
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Fucken electromagnets how do they work?1
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Omg, someone told me that the end was going to be Jack and his father high-fiving one another.
Could be true! Lol!
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now that's just stupid
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Look at the stained glass window, its the fucking Church of Himuro
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Jack is looking gaunt over the years.
Where is his dad?
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There he is rofl
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No fucking way
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Yeah, I don't think I'm cool with this. Him staying dead would have been a good bit of bittersweet
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Trainwreck ending incoming lol
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This is so distinguished mentally-challenged lol
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Look at the stained glass window, its the fucking Church of Himuro
:lol I'm watching the boondocks now, what happen
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worst mother fucking ending ever.
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Wow. Wow. So distinguished mentally-challenged.
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lol no Walt or Michael? I guess black people aren't allowed in heaven
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What is this I don't even
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WHAT HAPPEN
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WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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lol no Walt or Michael? I guess black people aren't allowed in heaven
:lol :lol rose only got in cause she married whitey :lol
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:,)
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I don't know about this ending.
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Well I guess Jack's father being there makes sense now lol
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lol no Walt or Michael? I guess black people aren't allowed in heaven
:lol :lol rose only got in cause she married whitey :lol
No Mr. Eko either. I think I'm on to something here
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WHAT HAPPEN
don't click unless you really want to know
spoiler (click to show/hide)
the sideways world is where you go after you die, and you can't "move on" until you remember how you died
ben = smartest motherfucker on lost
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I don't think that i really understood the ending.
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Beautiful ending.
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WHAT HAPPEN
don't click unless you don't want to know
spoiler (click to show/hide)
the sideways world is where you go after you die, and you can't "move on" until you remember how you died
ben = smartest motherfucker on lost
:lol :lol :lol
JACOB'S LADDER
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Definitely can't wait to buy the complete collection when it's out
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True Heroes of Lost
:bow Hurley :bow2
:bow Frank :bow2
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Look at the stained glass window, its the fucking Church of Himuro
:lol I'm watching the boondocks now, what happen
It was just a stained glass window with symbols from six different religions :lol :p
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WHAT HAPPEN
don't click unless you don't want to know
spoiler (click to show/hide)
the sideways world is where you go after you die, and you can't "move on" until you remember how you died
ben = smartest motherfucker on lost
and what is spoiler (click to show/hide)
''move on''
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When Vincent came out and lied next to him I lost it, I leaked
That's some Old Yeller shit
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My reaction: :rofl
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WHAT HAPPEN
don't click unless you don't want to know
spoiler (click to show/hide)
the sideways world is where you go after you die, and you can't "move on" until you remember how you died
ben = smartest motherfucker on lost
and what is spoiler (click to show/hide)
''move on''
Go to Heaven.
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In all seriousness, I guess it could have been a lot worse. I gave up on getting any answers somewhere in the middle of this season
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Here's the logic:
The A-Bomb going off gave everyone serious radiation poisoning. That's how they all eventually died
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Lost just set the bar for worst finale to a serialized drama ever :lol
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the sayid/shannon pairup was some truly awful fanservice
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Straight up. I love that Lost and Battlestar Galactica totally gave into the "God" thing. I love God in my fiction. It's the best plot device out there.
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In all seriousness, I guess it could have been a lot worse. I gave up on getting any answers somewhere in the middle of this season
Yeah, this whole season has basically been "You want answers? lol, guess again!".
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Straight up. I love that Lost and Battlestar Galactica totally gave into the "God" thing. I love God in my fiction. It's the best plot device out there.
The difference being that one included it from the get-go, this was a total cop out. And a poorly written one at that (at least Battlestar Galactica resolved its long running mysteries instead of IGNORING THEM). Jack's father opens the doors to heaven? Are you kidding me? :rofl
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yeah, that was unsatisfying
poor aaron, even if he grew up and lived to be 100 he still has to be a baby in the afterlife
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yeah, that was unsatisfying
poor aaron, even if he grew up and lived to be 100 he still has to be a baby in the afterlife
:lol
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Man, everything leading up to Jack speaking with his father was cool but the way it ended felt like fucking MGS4, someone we thought we wouldn't see again having to explain everything.
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I like how the rest of the plane crash survivors that got wiped out from Others and natural disaster didn't get to go to heaven. :lol
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Mr. Eko. :'(
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ben said FUCK THIS SHIT and hauled ass to have a proper ending
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ending on yt:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdDMrncAy4U
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Bring on the alternate endings.
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I like how the rest of the plane crash survivors that got wiped out from Others and natural disaster didn't get to go to heaven. :lol
They went to second banana heaven.
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The difference being that one included it from the get-go, this was a total cop out.
Yup. Which is why BSG's finale was better (the entire show is better of course). But I still enjoyed the heck out of the finale. It spent more time on characters than mythology. Seeing every character together again at the end = total awesome fan service.
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Remember in Season One when everyone was like "Lol they're dead the island is hell!" and eveyrone was like "haha yeah right okay"
:fbm
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God, this was the trainwreck I was waiting for :lol
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Found the ending up on Youtube for anyone who hasn't seen the episode yet:
spoiler (click to show/hide)
[youtube=560,345]zJflu7z4QyI[/youtube]
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Remember in Season One when everyone was like "Lol they're dead the island is hell!" and eveyrone was like "haha yeah right okay"
:fbm
they werent dead. everything shown on the island happened. the flashes we've been seeing where the purgatory. that happens far off in the future when they're all dead.
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liked the ending. much prefer purgatory to alternate life where they coincidentally run into each other every 10 minutes after setting off a abomb.
heaven being whites only is lol, bet black heaven looks like the church shack from there will be blood (if blacks are allowed in heaven that is)
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So they copied Ashes to Ashes\Life on Mars? :yawn
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For anyone looking to soothe their savage wounds, the Fringe season finale was fucking awesome.
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The shot of the rusted plane wreckage (left just as it was) during the ending credits definitely gives the impression that no one survived.
For anyone looking to soothe their savage wounds, the Fringe season finale was fucking awesome.
:rock
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yeah, i don't know what they were thinking there
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Season 6:
LAX - Great
What Kate Does - Sucked
The Substitute - Good
Lighthouse - Decent
Sundown - Lame (until the ending)
Dr. Linus - AWESOME
Recon - Good
Ab Aeterno - Awesome
The Package - Decent
Happily Ever After - Great
Everybody Loves Huge - Good
The Last Recruit - Good
The Candidate - Great
Across the Sea - TERRIBLE.
What They Died For - Good
The End - Great.
Overall - Pretty Good.
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were miles and frank at the ghost dance
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(http://i47.tinypic.com/2mn24hd.jpg)
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liked the ending. much prefer purgatory to alternate life where they coincidentally run into each other every 10 minutes after setting off a abomb.
Honestly, I'm on the fence. This is why.
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"War is coming."
"All your questions will be answered."
:rofl
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"War is coming."
"All your questions will be answered."
:rofl
What a load. :lol
I love seeing Lost fans trying to convince themselves this finale was any good. In a year or two, we'll look back and go, "Hey, remember how bad the Lost finale was?"
This is like the shock from The Phantom Menace all over again.
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(http://i47.tinypic.com/2mn24hd.jpg)
:lol
I was like, ehhhh at first but then I was reminded of Mr.Ecko. What is this, the 1950's?!
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Ad marketing =\= Truth.
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This is amazing. I can't wait to drink all the tears of Lost fans who have followed this series for YEARS only to get that ending.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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were miles and frank at the ghost dance
Their connection to the core group was weak, only the people important to each other were together.
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Ad marketing =\= Truth.
It's not even semi-truth. I think we may actually be able to file a class action lawsuit against ABC for false advertising.
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I know, I was really kind of bummed that the writers were refraining from doing anything really awful, but then they whipped out that last minute ending. Oh my god, let me taste all the tears. :lol
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:lol even in purgatory some of them still had shitty "lives"
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Two of my best friends here in Japan are huuuuuge fans of this show. I'm not sure what season Japan is on, but fuck, I hope they are torrenting the finale so I can make fun of them tomorrow. :lol :lol :lol
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I've got the first disc of Fringe season 1 on Netflix, I think I'll watch that and forget that Lost ever existed.
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The battle scene between Lock and Jack was fucking EPIC. That goddamned shot where Jack had the high ground, jesus.
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if the dog had made it to the church that would have been perfect
no negroes, dogs welcome
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I've got the first disc of Fringe season 1 on Netflix, I think I'll watch that and forget that Lost ever existed.
Yeah, everyone jump on the Fringe bandwagon instead. It's a show that actually rewards viewers by resolving storylines and not abandoning its first season premise. If the third season of Fringe becomes an epic duel between angels and demons, you can feel free to mock me.
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I've got the first disc of Fringe season 1 on Netflix, I think I'll watch that and forget that Lost ever existed.
It seems like they whoever was on Lost thats on Fringe learned from Lost and actually come through with some of the purposefully laid out mysteries
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I dont have a problem with shows that are "about the characters". I adored the BSG finale.
Problem is, Lost had shitty characters. No one behaved with a shred of logical ability. And OH WOW THE HOT GIRL IS A CRIMINAL and OH WOW WHEELCHAIR MAN CAN WALK and OH GEE CONFIDENT DOCTOR IS SECRETLY A MESS does not make a character compelling. It makes them interesting. One Piece has better characters. No one on LOST was ever motivated by their character traits. You could have swapped their backgrounds interchangably. They were just pieces. Which is why it made sense to have a cool, mythology focused show. I'm here for the MYSTERIES! Some of the greatest sci-fi writers of all time do this constantly. Shitty characters used to tell an intriguing story.
BSG got away with letting some of the mythology slide because it spent 4 seasons telling us a stolry about it's characters, not it's universe and mythology. So when the end came and it was a kind of non-resolution, that was okay in most instances. The last 4 minutes and still AI-levels of fucking awful, but aside from that.
You cant have characters as crappy and one dimensional and fucking fabricated as you do on LOST and get away with a 'character' ending.
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This is amazing. I can't wait to drink all the tears of Lost fans who have followed this series for YEARS only to get that ending.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
there are people on gaf saying that they literally spent the entire episode openly weeping (even moreso than during their personal lives) because of how "beautiful" it was
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The battle scene between Lock and Jack was fucking EPIC. That goddamned shot where Jack had the high ground, jesus.
It was so overblown and cheesy. :lol
Pouring rain? Check. "Epic" aerial helicopter shot? Check. Slow the framerate down during the punch? Check.
Could you get any more cliche?
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openly weeping, omg :rofl
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I've got the first disc of Fringe season 1 on Netflix, I think I'll watch that and forget that Lost ever existed.
Season 1 is good. it's not entirely sure what it's up to until the end. Season 2 is a non-starter with a big slump in the middle that all of a sudden takes off on one of the best 6 episode runs in TV ever.
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I won't lie, I teared up.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
After I started rolling on the floor with laughter. :lol
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There are people on my Internet feed saying that the finale setup a possible Hurley/Ben spin off. Really, would anyone watch that?
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The battle scene between Lock and Jack was fucking EPIC. That goddamned shot where Jack had the high ground, jesus.
It was so overblown and cheesy. :lol
Pouring rain? Check. "Epic" aerial helicopter shot? Check. Slow the framerate down during the punch? Check.
Could you get any more cliche?
yup yup. exactly what is needed to be.
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Yes.
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It needed to be overblown, cheesy and cliche? :lol
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If it was Hurley + Ben on the island, with flashovers to the Sawyer and Miles buddy cop show, it's be the best show ever.
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the show stopped being serious character drama a long time ago and went into awesomely cheesy overblown cliche. For it to culminate in the most awesomely cheesy overblown and cliche battle sequence on top of a rain soaked cliff side is fitting and AWESOME.
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as much as i'm enjoying the tears, i was secretly hoping for something that really swung for the bleachers, even it made no sense.
I don't know. Alternate universe being purgatory, where no black people are allowed is a pretty big whiff.
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the show stopped being serious character drama a long time ago and went into awesomely cheesy overblown cliche. For it to culminate in the most awesomely cheesy overblown and cliche battle sequence on top of a rain soaked cliff side is fitting and AWESOME.
This makes no sense, and is distinguished mentally-challenged.
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The vincent scene > fight scene
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I dont have a problem with shows that are "about the characters". I adored the BSG finale.
Problem is, Lost had shitty characters. No one behaved with a shred of logical ability. And OH WOW THE HOT GIRL IS A CRIMINAL and OH WOW WHEELCHAIR MAN CAN WALK and OH GEE CONFIDENT DOCTOR IS SECRETLY A MESS does not make a character compelling. It makes them interesting. One Piece has better characters. No one on LOST was ever motivated by their character traits. You could have swapped their backgrounds interchangably. They were just pieces. Which is why it made sense to have a cool, mythology focused show. I'm here for the MYSTERIES! Some of the greatest sci-fi writers of all time do this constantly. Shitty characters used to tell an intriguing story.
BSG got away with letting some of the mythology slide because it spent 4 seasons telling us a stolry about it's characters, not it's universe and mythology. So when the end came and it was a kind of non-resolution, that was okay in most instances. The last 4 minutes and still AI-levels of fucking awful, but aside from that.
You cant have characters as crappy and one dimensional and fucking fabricated as you do on LOST and get away with a 'character' ending.
:bow ONE PIECE :bow2
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Did Libby make it? I don't remember seeing her there.
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Did Libby make it? I don't remember seeing her there.
Yeah, she made it into heaven! She's white!
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This makes no sense, and is distinguished mentally-challenged.
whatevs. the fact that you expected anything else from the show after watching the last... what... 4 seasons? is pretty distinguished mentally-challenged as well.
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scene:
WALT is walking VINCENT down a neighborhood sidewalk. We see DESMOND in the background. VINCENT breaks free from his leash and trots over to DESMOND, licking his hand.
CUT TO:
CLOSEUP - VINCENT'S EYES
CUT TO:
Brief flash of VINCENT with LOCKE and WALT on the beach
CUT TO:
Quick cut of VINCENT running from the smoke monster.
CUT TO:
VINCENT feasting on the flesh of a dead flight passenger behind a bush
CUT TO:
POV shot of VINCENT'S NOSE heading toward's ROSE'S butt crack
CUT TO:
MR. FRIENDLY staring down at VINCENT, smiling. MR. FRIENDLY has a jar of peanut butter in one hand and is unzipping his pants with the other.
CUT TO:
VINCENT, back in "reality." He remembers now.
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Dude, Vincent was behind everything, he controlled the Island. Have you ever seen the Silent Hill 2 dog ending?
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scene:
WALT is walking VINCENT down a neighborhood sidewalk. We see DESMOND in the background. VINCENT breaks free from his leash and trots over to DESMOND, licking his hand.
CUT TO:
CLOSEUP - VINCENT'S EYES
CUT TO:
Brief flash of VINCENT with LOCKE and WALT on the beach
CUT TO:
Quick cut of VINCENT running from the smoke monster.
CUT TO:
VINCENT feasting on the flesh of a dead flight passenger behind a bush
CUT TO:
POV shot of VINCENT'S NOSE heading toward's ROSE'S butt crack
CUT TO:
MR. FRIENDLY staring down at VINCENT, smiling. MR. FRIENDLY has a jar of peanut butter in one hand and is unzipping his pants with the other.
CUT TO:
VINCENT, back in "reality." He remembers now.
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
PURE GOLD
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watch jimmey kimmel now:
http://www.veetle.com/view/index.html#4bb345a29e052
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[youtube=560,345]BLMPByYWkKE[/youtube]
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(http://i49.tinypic.com/2v7trls.jpg)
christian shephard hugs his son in the purgatory church of himu, as the lost writers jam glass into their eyes in an attempt to be subtle
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[youtube=560,345]BLMPByYWkKE[/youtube]
:rofl
That bad, eh?
If so, :fbm for all the folks who've been following Lost for years.
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The dog or UFO ending would actually be an improvement, I think. :-\
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according to that thread solo has been bawing for the last 45 minutes.
i like the ending and i think lost is the most overrated show since community, you guys are forgetting just how awful series finales are. like i said with the corner they painted themselves in that was the best way of ending it. maybe it's just easier for me to stomach a bullshit religious ending to a bullshit science fiction one as science fiction has to be much more cohesive and intricately written and the lost writers just don't have the chops. they definitely took the easy way out but if they didn't the end result would have been much worse.
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nah, i can think of a couple of better endings off the top of my head, i think some of us here could have written a more satisfying ending
it was okay up until the final reveal and then it went all wtfisthisshit.jpg
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"This is the place that you guys created so that you could all meet up again."
What does that even MEAN?!
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nah, i can think of a couple of better endings off the top of my head,
:lol :lol
sure you could. everyone says stuff like that. but it's not true. don't be silly.
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The parody script Eel wrote was better than the garbage Lost finale, don't hate :lol
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"This is the place that you guys created so that you could all meet up again."
What does that even MEAN?!
JACK IS NEO!?1
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I'm undecided if I will purchase the entire series bundle on blu-ray.
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I really wish they went with the whole Dark Tower angle. Though even that left many readers with questions so maybe it wouldn't have been a good thing. But explaining the alt timelines as actual alt timelines instead of purgatory would have been cooler. The spiritual angle made me roll my eyes a bit.
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nah, i can think of a couple of better endings off the top of my head, i think some of us here could have written a more satisfying ending
it was okay up until the final reveal and then it went all wtfisthisshit.jpg
i was talking about the last 10 minutes. using religion is a lazy plot device, but watching how they attempt to explain their brand of science fiction or misdirect and distract the audience from explanations i have no faith (lol) whatever explanation they shat out would be any better. i also don't inherently hate anything religious. ultimately it had no bearing on the overarching plot, they could of cut out the purgatory stuff from the entire season and just ended the show with jack dying, it was just their to give fans closure as most people hate unhappy endings. i'm sure coupled with its super heavy handed score most lemmings bawwed their eyes out.
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Like I said, if they had dropped the island storyline once the bomb went off and made the focus them rediscovering everyone on the mainland, it would have been about ten times better. And not nearly as distinguished mentally-challenged. If you're not going to bother to answer any of the long standing mysteries, then don't try to force an ending. Just got for ambiguous.
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jack pulls his jesus act, causing the island reality to shift over to the sideways reality, and the big reveal is that they are all constants to the universe, they are just going to keep shifting from reality to reality and not remembering what happened in the last, each time will be a little different and there will be different "not-ready" transitional people left behind, but the core group will always remain the same and the task of protecting the island is the same for all realities, kind of bittersweet in that it's a bit of a curse but at least this once they were able to remember what happened before and they can move to the next reality knowing they may have to do it forever but they'll always have each other to rely on
/runon
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We should get all the actors together and reshoot the finale, this time where it doesn't suck.
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Also, the "lol heaven" ending is a nice way for them to never, ever have to deal with any of the unexplained mythology. What a mess.
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Placed a reserve for the complete collection
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Gawker: The Lost Finale Was Incredibly Dumb (http://gawker.com/5545877/the-lost-finale-was-incredibly-dumb)
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Everyone loves to see characters who haven't been around for a while, right? Juliet! Where have you been? Shannon! Long time since you were around, irritating all of us and ruining Sayid. But good to see you, I guess! Rose and Bernard! Nice beard, bro! And Vincent! The goddamn dog! There you are, doing dog stuff. How great is it to get all these characters back? Not very great at all, as it turns out.
:lol
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(http://www.ckohler.net/offsite/lost/standoff03.jpg)
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOCKE!!!!!!!!!!!
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I still makes me mad that they stretched the Kate/Jack/Sawyer love triangle out for the entire run of the show. Good Lord, that should have been over and done with by the end of season TWO!! :maf
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Can someone sum up the the overall gist of the show in a brief and concise manner? What's the deal with one timeline in 2004 and another one in 2007?
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Can someone sum up the the overall gist of the show in a brief and concise manner? What's the deal with one timeline in 2004 and another one in 2007?
Lost: MIRACLES!1
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I'm just glad I never have to watch TV again
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plane crash, something something island good vs. evil, it never makes sense, turns out they're all dead, the end
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I still makes me mad that they stretched the Kate/Jack/Sawyer love triangle out for the entire run of the show. Good Lord, that should have been over and done with by the end of season TWO!! :maf
yep, her character lived way too long. should have been on the raft, got shot and drowned. done and done.
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from the gawker comments:
To all the people who were patient and watched for six years hoping for a complete and satisfying resolution: I'm sorry, and I feel your pain.
Signed,
Former X-Files fan.
:lol i remember giving up on that show before duchovny left
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plane crash, something something island good vs. evil, it never makes sense, turns out they're all dead, the end
So people who came up with that theory years ago were actually right? :lol
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Poor Losties. :lol
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plane crash, something something island good vs. evil, it never makes sense, turns out they're all dead, the end
So people who came up with that theory years ago were actually right? :lol
Not quite, but everyone is dead at the end though.
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Also, black people and secondary characters don't go to heaven. Somehow Keamy was killed both in real-life and in purgatory.
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(http://www.ckohler.net/offsite/lost/standoff03.jpg)
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOCKE!!!!!!!!!!!
See, this would be a cool scene if it had, y'know, any elements of drama or tension. And if it wasn't cheesy and overblown. Eel hit the nail on the head, he calls him Locke, even though in the scene prior he berates him for talking to him as if he were Locke. This show is stupid.
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Saw this on another forum I go to:
It's been over an hour and I'm still kinda reeling from the catharsis. An expertly done finale, and a historic piece of television. Amazing.
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Yeah, you're going to have to wait a week or two until the fan community settles down. They can't cope with mediocrity, let only a terrible finale. Let it sink in. It took years for some people to recognize how bad The Phantom Menace was.
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oh well. you didn't like it. i'm not gonna sit here and say it was amazing and perfect. far from it. but it was the best finale to Lost that we where going to get. as someone else said ITT, series finales always suck.
and you guys may want to deny it but the truth is Lost is a fairly important show and it's ending is fairly "historic" in TV media terms.
It took years for some people to recognize how bad The Phantom Menace was.
really rolling my eyes now. now you're just trollin'
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Poor fistful. He's still in the first step.
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Hurray for settling for mediocrity!
"Well, it was the best finale we were going to get, guys!"
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Yeah, I mean, I was anticipating Damon Lindelof to personally mail a box of fecal matter with a note that read, "Yours truly."
... so this was a definite step up!
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I'm more sad that Hurley eventually dies. If I sat and thought about it I would probably cry.
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So this is Lost in a nutshell (?):
- Originally a story about a group of people stuck on an island with no way to get out. They encounter nonsensical and outright fantastical freaky shit like smoke monsters and polar bears in a forest.
- They unlock a hatch which reveals that they aren't alone on the island, and have to press the button once every hour or else a major reaction would be caused and they'd be fucked.
- The hatch reveals that a company called Dharma created the hatch and that there were other hatches.
- Searching the island reveals other hatches and other remnants of other survivors and another group, a hostile one, who are known as nothing more than The Others.
- The Others and the Survivors fight and there's friction amongst both groups.
- Charles Widmore sends people to the island to investigate and kill everyone there.
- Some manage to leave the island, a group known as Oceanic Six. Others stay, and activate a time wheel that takes them back in time and various time periods jumping, jumping, jumping due to the instability of the island.
- The Oceanic Six have to go back because they realize they're unfulfilled without the island and have unfinished business there.
- The arrival of the oceanic six creates dual timelines: one in the present, another in the past (in the 70's).
- They work as Dharma agents and eventually try their damndest to stop the drilling of a well that eventually, and a conflict that eventually lands them back in their normal timeline. Or some shit.
- It turns out that Locke, who was thought to be dead, has been revived on the island due to supernatural powers. Those powers being the smoke monster. He uses Locke's body and Ben to kill Jacob so he can do like, bad stuff?
- Story goes from pseudo science and science fiction to spiritual. Looming "war" is teased.
- Season 6 shows an alternate universe which is disclosed in the finale as purgatory. The characters are there because they are incapable of moving on to Heaven.
- Bunch of stupid shit
- Show ends with Yer all dead, come on up to heaven - except the black people! You don't count!
How exactly did a show about pseudo science and sci fi tropes turn into a show about religion, spirituality and heaven? The whole thing makes me want to rewatch the show, but I have a feeling I'd regret it.
Am I missing anything?
Just musing these thoughts in my head have convinced me that Lost is possibly one of the most convoluted and obtuse stories I've ever had the courtesy of enduring. @_@
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"Evilbore is the place you all made together so you could find one another. The most important part of your life was the time you spent with these people. That's why you're all here. Nobody does it alone, fistfulofmetal: you needed all of them, and they needed you ... to let go." — Willco
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Good finale. Good series overall. I enjoyed BSG a bit more, even thought its final season was meh.
Overall ranking of the seasons: S1>S4>S2>S3>S6>S5
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so which ending to a series was a bigger pile of bullshit punching fans in the balls, lost or metal gear solid
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also i guess straight up murderers get to go to heaven
unless they're black :teehee
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So this is Lost in a nutshell (?):
- Originally a story about a group of people stuck on an island with no way to get out. They encounter nonsensical and outright fantastical freaky shit like smoke monsters and polar bears in a forest.
- They unlock a hatch which reveals that they aren't alone on the island, and have to press the button once every hour or else a major reaction would be caused and they'd be fucked.
- The hatch reveals that a company called Dharma created the hatch and that there were other hatches.
- Searching the island reveals other hatches and other remnants of other survivors and another group, a hostile one, who are known as nothing more than The Others.
- The Others and the Survivors fight and there's friction amongst both groups.
- Charles Widmore sends people to the island to investigate and kill everyone there.
- Some manage to leave the island, a group known as Oceanic Six. Others stay, and activate a time wheel that takes them back in time and various time periods jumping, jumping, jumping due to the instability of the island.
- The Oceanic Six have to go back because they realize they're unfulfilled without the island and have unfinished business there.
- The arrival of the oceanic six creates dual timelines: one in the present, another in the past (in the 70's).
- They work as Dharma agents and eventually try their damndest to stop the drilling of a well that eventually, and a conflict that eventually lands them back in their normal timeline. Or some shit.
- It turns out that Locke, who was thought to be dead, has been revived on the island due to supernatural powers. Those powers being the smoke monster. He uses Locke's body and Ben to kill Jacob so he can do like, bad stuff?
- Story goes from pseudo science and science fiction to spiritual. Looming "war" is teased.
- Season 6 shows an alternate universe which is disclosed in the finale as purgatory. The characters are there because they are incapable of moving on to Heaven.
- Bunch of stupid shit
- Show ends with Yer all dead, come on up to heaven - except the black people! You don't count!
How exactly did a show about pseudo science and sci fi tropes turn into a show about religion, spirituality and heaven? The whole thing makes me want to rewatch the show, but I have a feeling I'd regret it.
Am I missing anything?
Just musing these thoughts in my head have convinced me that Lost is possibly one of the most convoluted and obtuse stories I've ever had the courtesy of enduring. @_@
And Himuro nails it.
:piss Lost :piss2
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Karma, baby. There is a price to pay for having that BBC and super hops. You win some and you lose some.
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I would have laughed if everyone started walking to heaven and then Jack's father was like, "Oh, hey now, Rose, not so fast."
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"Woah there, Rosa Parks, where do you think you're going?"
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so which ending to a series was a bigger pile of bullshit punching fans in the balls, lost or metal gear solid
Honestly, Lost sounds a lot more awful. It's like the writers just gave up. At least Kojima believed in his bullshit.
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Yeah, I mean, I was anticipating Damon Lindelof to personally mail a box of fecal matter with a note that read, "Yours truly."
... so this was a definite step up!
was that really an outlandish expectation? someone didn't watch that episode with jacob as a child! :wag
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I'm gonna say MGS is worse. Coming from someone who believes games have better stories than movies and television itself
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someone on GAF just made the best comparison
(http://i48.tinypic.com/b961vo.jpg)
CONGRATULATIONS SHINJI JACK
also tinypic's captcha gave me a good comparison: "white mouthful"
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So did all the people die during the crash or did all the outlandish stuff really happen? Or we just don't know?
I'm gonna say MGS is worse. Coming from someone who believes games have better stories than movies and television itself
yeah but you hate Sony :derp
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someone on GAF just made the best comparison
(http://i48.tinypic.com/b961vo.jpg)
CONGRATULATIONS SHINJI JACK
also tinypic's captcha gave me a good comparison: "white mouthful"
:rofl :rofl :rofl
holy shit
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So did all the people die during the crash or did all the outlandish stuff really happen? Or we just don't know?
No, it's make it pretty clear that the stuff on the island was real.
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Aside from Jack, when did the people who were still left standing in the last episode die?
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Aside from Jack, when did the people who were still left standing in the last episode die?
"Some of them before you, some long after."
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So did all the people die during the crash or did all the outlandish stuff really happen? Or we just don't know?
all the island stuff was "real" and happened, the sideways world is just where everyone went as they died, whenever that was, but that doesn't matter because they'll all look exactly as they did during the show
and i would argue that miles and frank were more important than boone and shannon and should have been at the hallelujah party with everyone else, considering they were with the group longer and played an important part in getting the skeleton crew of survivors off the island
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considering the time i invested in this show i feel like i want to troll some more, i think i'll download the finale and retroll
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Jack's death took place in the "real" world, right? So everyone that was still there up to that point died later on?
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Yes, that is correct.
"Nadia is the love of my life, and I will never get over her, not even in an alternate world. Oh, hey look, there's that asthmatic blonde distinguished mentally-challenged fellow I knew for about two weeks and fucked on the island. I'm ready to move on now."
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So what happened? last I heard about lost a friend was talking about a time traveling blinking light or some shit like that.
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let that be where your curiousity about lost ends
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This guy apparently came away from the finale much happier than most of you.
http://blog.zap2it.com/ithappenedlastnight/2010/05/lost-the-end-of-the-show-finally-arrives-in-the-series-finale.html
Sounds like BS though. One thing I hate about hipsters is that they always try to find depth where there is none.
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don't hipsters generally sneer at religious things, though
i mean, that's got to be something to consider while browsing through shirts at the vintage clothing boutique tomorrow
"Shouldn't I hate this? Was it deep and meaningful FEELINGS which made me sniffle, or was it YUCK GOD EW EW EW"
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Evangelion episode 26.
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Well is Evangelion any good?
Most people don't like the last two episodes, which is why Death and Rebirth got made.
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Well Breaking Bad was excellent as per the rest of the season, so it looks like Lost wasn't even the best show of the day
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OK, I might pirate it in the future.
Fixed.
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I'm not going to go into much detail because I seem to be on the losing side of this battle, but I enjoyed the ending. I thought it was well done.
As far as the black people thing, it does look suspicious. Although Rose was there. And the guy who played Michael was on Jimmy Kimmel earlier and was asked why he didn't make it to "the church." He did point out that his character's soul was bound to the island for the people he killed there, as was previously said earlier in the season.
We should also account for the actors they couldn't get to return for the finale, which happens all the time, not to mention the fact that some of them have changed, like Walt. That kid is like 8 feet tall now, and I'm not sure if any of us would recognize him. If he showed up, everyone would be asking what Kobe Bryant was doing in the finale.
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I'm not going to go into much detail because I seem to be on the losing side of this battle, but I enjoyed the ending. I thought it was well done.
As far as the black people thing, it does look suspicious. Although Rose was there. And the guy who played Michael was on Jimmy Kimmel earlier and was asked why he didn't make it to "the church." He did point out that his character's soul was bound to the island for the people he killed there, as was previously said earlier in the season.
We should also account for the actors they couldn't get to return for the finale, which happens all the time, not to mention the fact that some of them have changed, like Walt. That kid is like 8 feet tall now, and I'm not sure if any of us would recognize him. If he showed up, everyone would be asking what Kobe Bryant was doing in the finale.
There ya go.
In an alternate universe where Lost explained everything
Trolls: Wow, they totally took all the mystery out of this show. What the fuck. That was totally what I watched for. Fucking horrible.
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Uh they never came out and said it was straight up purgatory. I guess you could perceive it as such. For me I think it was just to all be symbolic that they all successfully made it through and could finally forget the island once and for all. The only things that bothered me were the MiB basically being offed with no resolution to his foibles and Christian being revived.
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Oh my god they went to heaven at the end :lol :lol :lol :lol
So basically the whole parallel plotline was pointless and ate up half the season for nothing. JJ Abrams is the ultimate troll.
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Fringe season finale > Parks & Rec finale (SO GOOD, but failed to hit my goofy sci-fi buttons) > dog farts >Lost finale.
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I liked the ending. I'm just glad there were no aliens involved.
Third, I implore you to change your avatar back to Keeley.
I lost the picture. :'(
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best moment in the finale. but of course, haters gonna hate.
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The more I think about it the more I like the ending. I didnt perceive them as being in purgatory and moving on to heaven at the end though. The blinding light coming through the doors was just symbolic pap you would expect from a series finale. They were moving on or "leaving" the entanglement of the island. They still had their families new and coming to care for (locke and helen, the kwons and their baby). They simply had "created" a refuge for themselves by taking control of their destiny and setting off the hydrogen bomb in the first place. Ben wasnt ready to let go because he obviously still had some attachment to the previous life through Alex.
Many things still don't sit right with me of course. It seems hundreds of others and red shirt passengers had to die for this select group to live a life they wanted. Many of previously important characters were outright neglected (would it have been hard to have Eko and his brother to find absolution in some small cameo?). MiB imo was no real threat if he had escaped because he had lost his powers upon the island destructing, so in a way he was a tragic character who was jerked around by Jacob and never got his simple wish to leave. Christian resurrecting was kinda irksome too because I don't see what importance it was. It was like Jack is being rewarded for not letting go even though he was instructed to do so at the very end.
Standalone, the season 6 itself was above average- not great, but as a sendoff to the earlier seasons its not so egrerious in the larger context.
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Holy shit, Jewco is having an inverse meltdown in here.
seriously. he's talking about enjoying bitter tears and whatnot when I don't really think anyone is crying. I'm pretty happy actually. *shrug* It was A LOT better than I expected so I'm good.
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i felt like it was just sort of a copout, spending five years building up mysteries and emphasizing how important they were, only to flat out tell you "none of this matters" and "just let go" at the very end
like i said, i'll pretend the show ended with season 5 and "it worked" really meant something other than just being able to wrangle a candy bar out of a machine
i won't be investing any more of my time in cuse or lindelof's future projects, though
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My expectations were SUPER low after Across the Sea. I was really happy it was dominated by the character BS (and commercials lol) and kept more of the island BS vague. As far as the purgatory/sideways shit, it was better than a dream! HA lol
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I didnt perceive them as being in purgatory and moving on to heaven at the end though.
Where else might they be if they're all dead?
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I didnt perceive them as being in purgatory and moving on to heaven at the end though.
Where else might they be if they're all dead?
I choose not to interpret that so literally. Jack said 'Oh I died didnt I'. Yes they all died at some point in the alternate timeline. They were given a new lease on life in the end enriched by their experiences of all the bullshit they had to put up with before. Like I said, what doesnt sit right with me though is Christian coming back to life at all. I don't even feel like it added anything really other than showcasing an iconic character of the show once more.
Despite my many gripes with the series it ended better than I hoped and I really don't think I woulda appreciated Faraday/Jacob/whoever monolouging the island's secrets like they tried to do in "The Lighthouse"
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They stated a few episodes before The End that there was going to be a focus on characters, basically prepping for the fallout of not answering anything. I can understand being focused on the main characters and I like how The End brought everyone back together but I'm also in agreement with it being a huge copout to not answer anything. All the mysteries just snowballed and if you can't tackle them at a certain point then they shouldn't have been introduced in the first place.
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And yes, the commercials were fucking excruciating. I dunno, I guess I expected some hugely advertised event like this to have some more screentime for one last attempt to resolve things effectively.
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Bring on the alternate endings.
What were the alternate endings shown on Kimmel like?
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Bring on the alternate endings.
What were the alternate endings shown on Kimmel like?
[youtube=560,345]uvgopCkoiW8[/youtube]
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I like how EmCeeGrammar chose not to perceive the ending the way, uh, everyone did. I also choose to perceive the series did not end so horribly, and will construct my own reality to do so.
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Bring on the alternate endings.
What were the alternate endings shown on Kimmel like?
[youtube=560,345]uvgopCkoiW8[/youtube]
YouTube is blocked at work. Anything important?
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i never watched lost nor cared about it but i'm curious about it since it seems like it's some sort of national event (heck i swear they even talked it on news report here... not that they usualy have important news to give but...)
does everyone die? :o
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They were all joke endings, but ironically better than the actual ending.
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i never watched lost nor cared about it but i'm curious about the event since it seems like it's some sort of national event (heck i swear they even talked it on news report here... not that they usualy have important news to give but...)
does everyone die? :o
Yes.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Eventually.
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They stated a few episodes before The End that there was going to be a focus on characters, basically prepping for the fallout of not answering anything.
which is why it was good. imagine if the entire episode was swamped with running down the checklist. THAT would suck. If you give me the option of character vs answers, i'm choosing characters everytime.
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Except nobody really liked most of the characters (really, I think the only characters unanimously liked are Hurley and Desmond), this was a show fueled by its "mysteries".
The promos didn't say, "WHY DOES JACK HAVE DADDY ISSUES, FIND OUT THIS SEASON!" it said "WHAT IS THE ISLAND? WHY ARE THEY HERE? QUESTIONS WILL BE ANSWERED!"
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What was the deal with Faraday's mother? That still bothers me, especially the last scene with her and Desmond. Well, I guess I sort of get it, but...
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I like how EmCeeGrammar chose not to perceive the ending the way, uh, everyone did. I also choose to perceive the series did not end so horribly, and will construct my own reality to do so.
They never said that they were in purgatory and that they were all going to live happily ever after in heaven. I think its open to interpretation.
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What was the deal with Faraday's mother? That still bothers me, especially the last scene with her and Desmond. Well, I guess I sort of get it, but...
Would have been awesome if she was part of some group of elders that were privy to knowledge and tech that allowed one to jump between dimensions. I was hoping they went down that road. But nope, I guess she's been in purgatory this whole time :teehee Honestly, death and purgatory feel like Plan B if they couldn't correctly put everything in a neat package.
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Please. You can dance around the issues and create other names for it. Yes, it may have not been purgatory in the literal sense, but their souls were obviously stuck there in limbo until they "found each other". If you have a better name for it, great - but you're arguing for semantics. Same thing for heaven. Sure, they "moved on" to some "other journey past death" that may or may not be the Christian ideal of heaven, but they moved on to the afterlife. You're arguing semantics.
That's like saying, "They weren't stuck in purgatory until they moved on to heaven, they were stuck in some kind of stagnant alternate world where time could not move forward until they moved on to some kind of afterlife."
Especially when the writing was LITERALLY on the wall, in the last scene.
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Uh, youre the one attributing labels to things dude. I know you think your drinking from some chalice of bitter tears of all the lost fans who were betrayed by a sappy ending with religous overtones. Enjoy it, whatever. But I only came across everyone bitching about it when I came to the nerd dens on the internet because apparently the orthodoxy of opinion works fast on the web. I don't see anything that would classify the alternate timeline as some inconsequential limbo considering that they created new sets of relationships for the losties. Well, except for zombie christian and an ambiguous blinding light engulfing everyone.
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They didn't create new sets of relationships, they put themselves in proximity to "reconnect" when they were ready. Again, it may not have been purgatory in the literal sense, but when the drive of the finale was that they needed to "let go" and "move on" by (in your own words) "zombie Christian" (in a fucking church, no less!), how can there not be any doubt that they were (hyuk) lost there until they moved on to the afterlife (it may not be pearly gates, but it was the afterlife)?
Yes, we attach labels like "purgatory" to such a realm, but that is the commonly known and accepted term for such a place. I can't believe you have the audacity to complain about that. You can call Earth whatever you want, won't stop the rest of us from calling it Earth.
I'm glad you seemingly have constructed a better finale by ignoring the actual writing or arguing semantics. Good for you. That's pretty awesome.
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anecdotal, but i know three regular viewers who don't pay attention to fansites or message boards, and all of them thought it was pretty disappointing
to be fair, they were also expecting to see dinosaurs and cannibals on the island at some point during the series
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they're saving that for the spin off
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Hurley and Ben have to defend the island against a rift to THE LAND OF THE LOST.
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It was a good ending. Left a lot unexplained but I came away satisfied.
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they're saving that for the spin off
"Why did the dinosaurs trample Johnny? Why did the cannibals eat Rebecca? Where did they come from? Why are we here?"
"Why do you think all that happened?"
"..."
- five years later -
"Well, I sure am glad some of us managed to get off the island without being trampled or eaten. But I keep having funny hallucinations, I have a bangin' wife and three great kids but my life doesn't feel real, and I still have all the questions I had five years ago. That's why I came to you, tubby. They say you're the man with all the answers."
"None of that matters now, dude, you're in a better place. Let go, and move on."
"FUCK YOU"
F O U N D
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:lol
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The new relationships were Jack and his son, Lock and Helen, etc. It would be weird that they lived a whole other life with new people only to throw it away to go to 'heaven'
Gee Wilco, let it go man.
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I don't think I can watch this episode again today. Maybe tomorrow.
That entire final montage will be fucking hard on me. Again.
I literally was sobbing, very loudly at that point. Like, my shoulders were moving and shaking with my tears. It was nuts.
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It would be weird that they lived a whole other life with new people only to throw it away to go to 'heaven'
L O S T
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I don't think I can watch this episode again today. Maybe tomorrow.
That entire final montage will be fucking hard on me. Again.
I literally was sobbing, very loudly at that point. Like, my shoulders were moving and shaking with my tears. It was nuts.
For some reason Jack realising he had died made me cry. Nothing else though.
I didnt really hate any characters on this show though like other people. Never saw the problem with Kate for instance.
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i just copy/pasted that from the gaf thread, struck me as particularly cringe-inducing
i mean, i'm not going to lie and say nothing i've ever read or seen has ever struck me a bit, but goddamn, if you're that sensitive you might want to think about some therapy
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I wish I could care that much about something :'(
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It reminds me of the time a bunch of friends and I were bullshitting in the comic shop, and somehow the subject turned to things you'd read or seen that made you well up, and our friend Will said he cried when Supergirl died in Crisis on Infinite Earths.
We all fell out laughing and gave him so much shit about it that he stopped talking to any of us for months.
We would have been merciless, MERCILESS, to the guy who wrote what I copied and posted above.
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The End did have some very sad moments in it. The more I think about the finale episode, the more I like it.
I never cried, though. But the flashbacks from the Island did make me sad/happy.
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Yep, still satisfied. I will have to re-download the episode
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:lol :lol :lol
There were a few parts where I felt a bit emo, but nothing that made me actual shed tears. Locke waking up in the hospital. The Sun and Jin shit. Sawyer and Juliette shit.
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The new relationships were Jack and his son, Lock and Helen, etc. It would be weird that they lived a whole other life with new people only to throw it away to go to 'heaven'
It would be weird for them to leave their idealized, but completely fraudulent lives to go to heaven? Have you never read a purgatory story before? :lol
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I jacked off in purgatory once. It was amazing.
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Wow, ratings were shit. Beaten out by most of the seasons :lol
Fans are already in damage control. Numbers were lower than expected because everyone was at "Lost parties", so not as many televisions were on. :lol
I jacked off in purgatory once. It was amazing.
L O S T
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Horrible ending.
I'm 100% certain the writers were making this stuff up as they went along.
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I was at a Lost party at an Alamo Drafthouse! I saw it with 500 other Losties! It was the shit!
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I have never been super attracted to Kate like alot of people but goddam she was smokin' in that dress at the end of the show.
:drool THIGHS :drool
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She had alright thighs. Her chicken wings were disgusting though.
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Horrible ending.
I'm 100% certain the writers were making this stuff up as they went along.
Yeah, to be fair to an earlier point that Mupepe made, that has been known for awhile. They never planned anything out, contrary to all the bullshit they were spewing. I think they knew the ending when Season Five went into production, and that's as far back as they planned.
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There were a few parts where I felt a bit emo, but nothing that made me actual shed tears. Locke waking up in the hospital.
Jack being a stubborn bitch and Locke being all BELIEVE was a nice callback to when the show was still good, yeah.
aaaand I just blew a booger into my coffee as I exhaled wtf
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Her chicken wings don't really need to shake my world....thighs on the other hand.
At least we got see Juliette in the show one last time...watching her in V is fucking painful.
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people still watch this show? i quit after season 3, dudes, when it was clear the island did not have any dinosaurs, cannibals, demons, or aliens.
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Funny that you mention that, because Patel said in IM last night that after reviewing Himuro's synopsis, that Lost was a show that he liked its first three seasons. I kind of agree. I have a soft spot for season four, although it ultimately proved to be completely pointless after last night. Still, The Constant, y'know?
But yeah, Lost will probably be defined as a show that was pretty neat and started off conceptually strong, but then kind of sputtered off and ended with lol all non-blacks got to heaven lol.
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There were a few parts where I felt a bit emo, but nothing that made me actual shed tears. Locke waking up in the hospital.
Jack being a stubborn bitch and Locke being all BELIEVE was a nice callback to when the show was still good, yeah.
aaaand I just blew a booger into my coffee as I exhaled wtf
yummy!
Her chicken wings don't really need to shake my world....thighs on the other hand.
At least we got see Juliette in the show one last time...watching her in V is fucking painful.
she was soo cyoote!
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Patel still lurks here? What a loser.
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Dharma was in Season Two, Cohen.
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i think ending on the hobbit duder's drowning death was the way to go, frankly
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Yep, still satisfied. I will have to re-download the episode
This.
Just pre-ordered the complete BRD set too.
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I imagine making the leap from Star Wars apologist to Lost apologist was not that difficult.
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i'm not dogging anyone who enjoyed it, btw
i sure do love tweaking people who get defensive or histrionic in their unquestioning love for it, though
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i'm not dogging anyone who enjoyed it, btw
i sure do love tweaking people who get defensive or histrionic in their unquestioning love for it, though
Yeah, fuck this. Let's all go watch Fringe instead.
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i plan on it!
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1h10 mark. Goddamn, :'( i'm falling apart. This is so beautiful, love
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watch supernatural
wincest :drool
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Patel is burning through the second season and his reaction is hyperbolic.
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:bow FRINGE :bow2
Walter > All characters on LOST
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Sam Weiss > Jacob
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Sam Weiss > Jacob
Yep, nukka listens to fucking chill' music and drinks beer at a bowling alley. Where Jacob huddles on an island and peeps on emotionally distraught people.
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:lol
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Now that Lost is over, Abrams should get some of those unemployed bums a gig on a real television show.
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I'm sorry but... some people are actually satisfied by the ending?
Did we watch the same episode or did I miss some pivotal shit?
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Obviously you were not moved by the single note piano music and reunion flashbacks, because you don't get the characters.
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Willco was just put off by all the single moms
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The pilot for Fringe kinda sucks, so don't give up too easily
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Talking bout' Sam Weiss made me think about all the characters the Lost writers put on a pedestal (as far as being knowledgeable as to what the fuck is happening)
Whitmore: Didn't know shit
Benjamin: Didn't know shit
Faraday: Didn't know shit
Faraday's Mom: Didn't know shit
Man in Black: Didn't know shit
Jacob: Didn't know shit
MiB's and Jacobs Mom: Didn't know shit
Jack's Dad: Didn't say shit
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Fringe Season 3 finale: Sam Weiss created the island on Lost :o
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Obviously you were not moved by the single note piano music and reunion flashbacks, because you don't get the characters.
I now fully understand why they call it Lost :lol
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Ecko wanted too much money:
http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b182526_losts_adewale_akinnuoye-agbaje_turned.html#ixzz0orCtEiXY
According to ABC and Lost insiders, Adewale was offered a hearty sum to do one scene in the last hurrah, but the actor wanted five times the amount that was offered. It didn't work out.
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on the one hand, everything i've ever read about the dude seems to indicate he is a huge asshole
on the other, can't say as i blame him for trying to take advantage of a last-second cash grab
i'd have backed down and took it, though, he got fuckall for it and pissed off one of the most psychotic fanbases in recent memory
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Well, this finale fucking sucks.
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I like to imagine that the pilot, Frank, lived happily ever after - sitting on a porch drinking lemonade, commenting about how he never misses all those emo fuckers with daddy issues that were always trying to get him killed.
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Well, this finale fucking sucks.
Someone just ran into the last fifteen minutes :lol
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Jesus Christ somebody tell Beethoven to take a fucking break.
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What I don't get is why some people think it's smart that the story asks a bunch of questions that even the writers can't answer. That's just awful writing not art. It's always easier to raise an interesting issue than to resolve it. Willco is right in that the fans will come to their senses in a few years and realize that the finale was just awful, like the conclusion of The Matrix.
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Dharma Initiative - Major plot point through more than half the series, but gets virtually no mention at all in the last season. Did Jacob order their deaths by The Others? Is so, why?
Hatches/Research stations - No mention at all.
Faraday's Mom - Seems to know a great deal about what's going and even helps everyone else figure things out, but the finale offers nothing up about who she really is or how she knows what she knows.
Jacob's control over the island - Ben claims that Jacob was responsible for making it impossible for people to leave, so does that mean that everyone who has ever come there since he gained control has been because he allowed them to? Did he allow Dharma to come there then, if so, why? Did he have them killed because they were getting too close to the island's power source?
The island's power source - It's a mystical something, that's all we know.
Hurley bird - ?
Charles Whidmore - Major player through the latter half of the series, but we know very little about him other than that he was once on the island but Ben had him sent away. Jacob's control over the island renders his power struggle with Ben pointless since it's ultimately up to Jacob to decide he controls the island or who doesn't. Where did "The Rules" come from, were they Jacob's or did Ben and Whidmore come up with them on their own? If the latter, why make them up in the first place?
Pregnancy problems - Important through much of the series, but never really gets answered. Was this Jacob's doing?
Have I missed anything?
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The magical linchpin/cork
edit: nm I guess you covered that
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Tons probably. But it's been 6 years.
Like I said, I was more disappointed when things started getting answered and I was like "Well this is gay!"
If they had kept the same atmosphere of mystery and intrigue and kept the silly god shit and horrible, obvious and anti climatic answers out of the show it would have been so much better. Not "art". I don't give a fuck if it's art. but it would have been more entertaining.
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The magical linchpin/cork
It's a butt plug
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They duct tapped a commercial plane in the middle of an island and bounced.
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They totally ripped off 2012 with that scene. :lol
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Dickens worked exactly the same way. He literally had no idea where each serialized piece of his works was going. Sometimes he actually used public feedback to dictate where the stories would go. And Dickens is regarded as a Literary master.
Like Dickens, Darlton did have an idea of how the story would end and they delivered it.
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Dharma Initiative - Major plot point through more than half the series, but gets virtually no mention at all in the last season. Did Jacob order their deaths by The Others? Is so, why?
Hatches/Research stations - No mention at all.
Faraday's Mom - Seems to know a great deal about what's going and even helps everyone else figure things out, but the finale offers nothing up about who she really is or how she knows what she knows.
Jacob's control over the island - Ben claims that Jacob was responsible for making it impossible for people to leave, so does that mean that everyone who has ever come there since he gained control has been because he allowed them to? Did he allow Dharma to come there then, if so, why? Did he have them killed because they were getting too close to the island's power source?
The island's power source - It's a mystical something, that's all we know.
Hurley bird - ?
Charles Whidmore - Major player through the latter half of the series, but we know very little about him other than that he was once on the island but Ben had him sent away. Jacob's control over the island renders his power struggle with Ben pointless since it's ultimately up to Jacob to decide he controls the island or who doesn't. Where did "The Rules" come from, were they Jacob's or did Ben and Whidmore come up with them on their own? If the latter, why make them up in the first place?
Pregnancy problems - Important through much of the series, but never really gets answered. Was this Jacob's doing?
Have I missed anything?
Dharma was resolved in Season 5. They were hippie scientists who came to the island to study the electromagnetism there (the power source) and then they broke open a pocket of electromagnetism at the Sawn station, women could no longer give birth on the island.
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Part of Dickens's great talent was to incorporate this episodic writing style but still end up with a coherent novel at the end.
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SMH
This isn't surprising though, I'm guessing the Lost writers expected the rabid fans to take up sword and shield for the series and explain away the unexplainable.
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lol no Walt or Michael? I guess black people aren't allowed in heaven
Did you even watch the show or do you just bitch about it on forums? Michael is stuck on the island and can't move on, he explained that to Hurley this season.
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What about Walt? What made Walt so special?
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i think the dog turned out to be more special, he could track all kinds of dying motherfuckers in the jungle
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lol no Walt or Michael? I guess black people aren't allowed in heaven
Did you even watch the show or do you just bitch about it on forums? Michael is stuck on the island and can't move on, he explained that to Hurley this season.
And what about the people Sayid killed on the island?
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Also, there's no way we are supposed to believe that the magic watering hole is electromagnetic energy after last night's episode. :lol
... why didn't Jack turn into the smoke monster when he went inside, by the way? Why did the light turn MiB into the smoke monster? How did Jacob become immortal? Why couldn't he hurt MiB? Why could Jack hurt MiB when they unplugged the buttplug?
None of this shit was properly answered.
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MY PENIS WAS PROPERLY ANSWERED HAHAHAHAHAHA
The best part of Lost last night was the Jack in the Box commercial...
"Don't eat it. Don't do it! Don't"
*Eats the pancake*
Black Lady: "You ate his face??"
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some of the hilarity is coming from people trying to wave off the purgatory reality as being a place where they could be at their happiest while waiting for each other to remember and move on
and i'm thinking yeah, kate on the run being a murderer and sayid being miserable because he can't fuck his brother's wife, that's utopia
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Not even that, but Kate is actually innocent in the side reality. So it's even worse for her!
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In the end, it didn't matter, because Nadyia was old and busted. Wincest is the new hotness.
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some of the hilarity is coming from people trying to wave off the purgatory reality as being a place where they could be at their happiest while waiting for each other to remember and move on
and i'm thinking yeah, kate on the run being a murderer and sayid being miserable because he can't fuck his brother's wife, that's utopia
That seriously gave the impression that they really did create an Alt Universe, wrote it as such and then said fuck it everyone in the pool!
In the end, it didn't matter, because Nadyia was old and busted. Wincest is the new hotness.
Man, that hotel scene was so awesome. I was like, no...no they're not... THEY'RE NOT... niiiiice.
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Hey so had like Sun and Jin just finished fucking when Sawyer entered the room? Jin was all getting dressed and straightening up his tie and they were both smiling like distinguished mentally-challenged fellows.
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I think maybe they were writing an awesome finale, J.J. invited Lindelof over to see what they were doing on Fringe and the Lost bullpen said, "Fuck it, we can't compete. Let's just make them dead, go grab some In-and-Out and watch Fringe instead."
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Also, there's no way we are supposed to believe that the magic watering hole is electromagnetic energy after last night's episode. :lol
Except for the fact that they had to use Desmond WHO IS IMMUNE TO ELECTROMAGNETIC ENERGY to go into it.
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Why is Sun and Jin's kid, who was born on the mainland in reality, a baby in purgatory?
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Hey so had like Sun and Jin just finished fucking when Sawyer entered the room? Jin was all getting dressed and straightening up his tie and they were both smiling like distinguished mentally-challenged fellows.
sure, it could be that, why not, who cares anyway
^ excerpt from the final lost writer's roundtable
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Hey so had like Sun and Jin just finished fucking when Sawyer entered the room? Jin was all getting dressed and straightening up his tie and they were both smiling like distinguished mentally-challenged fellows.
They had both "awakened" and that was the first time they had seen Sawyer in purgatory. So its just a seeing an old buddy smile.
That or Jin gave Sun the ol' Crab Ragoon filling
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Except for the fact that they had to use Desmond WHO IS IMMUNE TO ELECTROMAGNETIC ENERGY to go into it.
That would make perfect sense, if it made any sense whatsoever. I'm sure electromagnetic energy is yellow light in a a kiddie pool caused by a stone cork with Egyptian hieroglyphics plugged into the center of the Earth.
This is why being a Lost apologist is a perfect job for you.
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It was a yellow light when Desmond turned the key earlier in the series.
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Didn't you hear the Zap! Willco? Haven't you ever rubbed a balloon on your head and placed it a against a wall? That should explain it :smug
/me whistles and walks away before you can reiterate the point about all that out of place Egyptian stuff
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It's that kind of of duct tape that keeps the Wii together.
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It was a yellow light when Desmond turned the key earlier in the series.
Again, I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt when we did not see the contents of the well, but considering it was a shallow kiddie pool with magical yellow light caused by a cork with Egyptian hieroglyphics plugged into some kind of molten rock - you then lose the ability to talk about the "light" scientifically.
Really, ManaByte. Really?
bu bu bu bu Desmond :lol
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It was a yellow light when Desmond turned the key earlier in the series.
You can't just call something "electromagnetic energy", then procede to do whatever you want with it and still expect people to believe you!
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An ABC source confirms to me that after Sunday’s series finale, titled “The End,” airs from 9 – 11:30 pm ET/PT, the season six DVD (as well as the complete series collection, out on DVD and Blu-ray August 24) will continue the saga with upwards of twenty minutes of additional storyline.
“It’s in production now,” confirms the source, who couldn’t yet confirm the actual running time of the new scenes. “Damon and Carlton wanted to offer fans answers to additional questions they couldn’t get to in the body of the final show.”
hahaha, cough it up if you want your answers, lost fans
maybe if they'd trimmed a few minutes off all those piano tinkling sidehugging moments they could have fit the answers in
it's because a hobbit was involved, there's always some slow motion maudlin faggotry when a hobbit's around
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:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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oh man, that with ABC's epic amount of commercials... totally shitting on the fanbase.
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It was a yellow light when Desmond turned the key earlier in the series.
You can't just call something "electromagnetic energy", then procede to do whatever you want with it and still expect people to believe you!
(http://memegenerator.net/Advice-Dog/ImageMacro/883384/Advice-Dog-FUCKIN-MAGNETS-THEY-ARE-A-MIRACLE.jpg)
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oh man, that with ABC's epic amount of commercials... totally shitting on the fanbase.
I went in fully expecting more than the usual amount but goddam they went overboard.
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http://www.theonion.com/articles/lost-possibly-still-airing-in-parallel-dimension-d,17485/
:lol
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I wonder how much Target spent on advertising. They bought a bunch of spots, and none of them can really be used again - as they all tied into Lost.
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lol no Walt or Michael? I guess black people aren't allowed in heaven
Did you even watch the show or do you just bitch about it on forums? Michael is stuck on the island and can't move on, he explained that to Hurley this season.
I'm sure God could bend the rules of some stupid island if he really wanted to
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If only I stopped in S3 like I originally did...
On the other hand, it's been fun watching the trainwreck unfold.
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You guys are such downers.
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we're realists and rebels and don't care what other people think
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Seems more like typical nerd whine sirens. I think things could have been handled better for sure.
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we're realists and rebels and don't care what other people think
This is golden coming from you
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we're realists and rebels and don't care what other people think
This is golden coming from you
:lol :lol :lol
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If only I stopped in S3 like I originally did...
On the other hand, it's been fun watching the trainwreck unfold.
I think maybe we should buy Lost S1 - S3 and believe that S3 is the end of the series.
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we're realists and rebels and don't care what other people think
This is golden coming from you
8) 8) 8)
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Seems more like typical nerd whine sirens. I think things could have been handled better for sure.
First you go on about nerds who pirate, now you go on about nerds who have a taste for quality and standards.
What is it with you and nerds when you're an nfreak who posts on a message board on the internet with a mickey mouse avatar?
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I dont even like Mickey Mouse!
I'm just a contrarian Himuro.
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If only I stopped in S3 like I originally did...
On the other hand, it's been fun watching the trainwreck unfold.
I think maybe we should buy Lost S1 - S3 and believe that S3 is the end of the series.
THE LOST HALF-SERIES BOXSET: AVAILABLE ONLY AT THE BORE
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Finale was amazing, and I didn't like a lot of this season.
Lost :'(
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I'll sell you my Lost S1 & 2 sets, so I can put it towards my complete collection version
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I've already got season 1-4 on dvd and then I bought season 1-5 on blu-ray once I got my HDTV. 8)
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Season 4 was the best season.
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I'll sell you my Lost S1 & 2 sets, so I can put it towards my complete collection version
Complete Collection is #2 on Amazon now and threatening Avatard.
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They duct tapped a commercial plane in the middle of an island and bounced.
L O S T :lol
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I'm definitely getting the 1-6 season boxset. On blu ray.
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Every Lost Complete Collection sold on Blu-Ray comes with free bonus Wilco tears, and a bonus disc with all the best scenes from Fringe (it's blank).
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Every Lost Complete Collection sold on Blu-Ray comes with free bonus Wilco tears, and a bonus disc with all the best scenes from Fringe (it's blank).
Yeah, J.J. wouldn't want to further embarrass Lost fans. :smug
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The Wings finale had more viewers :rofl
Seriously? FLOPZILLA!!!!! :rofl :rofl :rofl
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what where the ratings?
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The King of Queens finale had the same ratings.
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I really liked the ending and the show as a whole.
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The King of Queens finale had the same ratings.
bu bu bu bu all the Lost parties! Don't blame Lost fans for being social!
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Kevin James is higher up on the bear scale than Jorge Garcia :shh
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The King of Queens finale had the same ratings.
bu bu bu bu all the Lost parties! Don't blame Lost fans for being social!
Sales-Age, on my evilbore?!
spoiler (click to show/hide)
It's more likely than you think! :shh
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So sales/ratings/popularity are a no no for gaming discussion but a-ok in real talk? Someone explain this to me?
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Hurley bird - ?
its a bird
A bird that says "Hurley".
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http://www.tvsquad.com/2010/05/24/lost-finale-theories-explanations/?icid=main|main|dl2|link1|http://www.tvsquad.com/2010/05/24/lost-finale-theories-explanations/
Ultimately, 'Lost' was a show for the anxious, uncertain, post-Sept. 11 nation we have become. We've had to accept ambiguity as a fact of life, and we seek answers and closure, though none may be forthcoming. We're leery and skeptical about science but riddled with doubt about faith. To the extent that 'Lost' was about the journey and not the destination, about the drive to solve riddles rather than the solutions themselves, it was the show that best explained us to ourselves.
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Man, if Lost fans reach any harder they'll dislocate their arms :lol
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Hey, guys, it's not SUPPOSED to make sense!
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They were teaching us a lesson, Rumbler!
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I hope fringe gets cancelled!
nanna nanna boo boo
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http://www.tvsquad.com/2010/05/24/lost-finale-theories-explanations/?icid=main|main|dl2|link1|http://www.tvsquad.com/2010/05/24/lost-finale-theories-explanations/
Ultimately, 'Lost' was a show for the anxious, uncertain, post-Sept. 11 nation we have become. We've had to accept ambiguity as a fact of life, and we seek answers and closure, though none may be forthcoming. We're leery and skeptical about science but riddled with doubt about faith. To the extent that 'Lost' was about the journey and not the destination, about the drive to solve riddles rather than the solutions themselves, it was the show that best explained us to ourselves.
Only problem with this theory is that Lost suffered from the same common problems as pre-911 crap.
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I hope fringe gets cancelled!
nanna nanna boo boo
Fringe is run by the writers of TRANSFORMERS
The season finale was written and directed by the writer of BATMAN & ROBIN
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man, wings was a good show up until john ritter's wife became a regular
:heart lowell :heart
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man, wings was a good show up until john ritter's wife became a regular
:heart lowell :heart
Thanks Eel, QFT
I feel better now that we've agreed on something.
Lost still kicked ass though.
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I hope fringe gets cancelled!
nanna nanna boo boo
:rofl
spoiler (click to show/hide)
:'(
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Too bad Fringe got renewed for a full season. :smug
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Too bad Fringe got renewed for a full season. :smug
It's a scifi show on FOX. Even Dollhouse got a second season.
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This is Fringe's third season, which is unprecedented as far as sci fi shows on Fox are concerned though. :o
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24 Series Finale > BSG Series Finale > Lost Series Finale
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This is Fringe's third season, which is unprecedented as far as sci fi shows on Fox are concerned though. :o
Wasn't X-files on Fox?
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This is Fringe's third season, which is unprecedented as far as sci fi shows on Fox are concerned though. :o
Wasn't X-files on Fox?
X-Files, Simpsons, COPS, and Married...with Children are all exceptions. Unless Fringe takes off the way X-Files did, it won't stick around. And X-Files was really popular from season 1 onward.
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I keep forgetting about X-Files. Mostly because I want to purge a vast majority of it from my memory. :-\
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It got a full season pickup, ManaByte. For season three. It's not going anywhere. If it was on the bubble, the episode order would have been cut in half. It must be hitting its demographics and selling well. I don't track that stuff personally, but the proof is in the order.
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For what it's worth, I really like Fringe a lot, it's my personal successor to Lost for event television viewing.
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Yeah, except it's actually competent!
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Fringe Season 2 saw about a 3 million viewer drop from the first season.
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Again, if it was on the bubble, Fox would not have picked up a full order. It'd be a mid season replacement and get an order in the early to mid-teens. A network is not going to invest in 22 episodes for a show in it's third season if it's on the chopping block (see: Chuck).
So it must be hitting its demographics, or reaching some numbers that Fox likes. End of story.
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Don't kid yourself, it suffers from a lot of the same flaws and pitfalls Lost does. Doesn't stop either of them from being good shows.
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Don't kid yourself, it suffers from a lot of the same flaws and pitfalls Lost does.
Not really. It has setup its universe, and has abided by those rules. It doesn't drag everything out. For example, if Fringe was Lost, we would have found out about Charlie sometime in SEASON FOUR.
It helps that Fringe is generally written and directed by feature film professionals.
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Oh so that's what this is about, you're being a credits snob. :P
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The only problem with Fringe is that I think of that POS Heavenly Sword whenever I watch it. :yuck
Sfags ruin everything.
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No, I like competency in my shows. Fringe has it, Lost has generally not. It's not very well written, the finale is a perfect example of the sloppy writing on display. For a "character-driven" show, it doesn't really have bullpen capable of writing, well, compelling characters. Characters never drove this show.
What Lost had that Fringe did not - from the beginning - was a super awesome concept. Fringe struggled its first season to find its hook, but when it did, look out! It was off to the races! Lost has squandered something that most serialized television dramas never have - a great pilot.
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So a show where a majority of the episodes focused on a specific character to the point where you would call it a "Sayid Episode", with flashbacks that gave insight into their motivations isn't character driven? Ok.
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The problem is nobody cares about these characters. People didn't go, "Man, I can't wait to learn more about Sayid's past or about Kate's run-ins with the law!"
People wanted to know about this crazy fucking island and all the crazy island shit.
You basically reiterated my point that is not a very well written show.
Is that hard for you to understand?
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(http://www.ecorazzi.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/lilly_auction.jpg)
Is that Evangeline Lilly in the ad or someone else? If that's her, she must have gotten some work done. Her bod was nowhere near that curvy at the beginning of Lost.
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That's not her.
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I guess you aren't doing a good job of explaining why it is not very well written. You nitpicked a lot of pitfalls that are found in a lot of good shows, Fringe included, cherry picked some legitimate complaints, then claimed it wasn't character driven because you didn't like the characters?
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Yeti, you wont convince him. He doesnt like the show, end of story
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Sorry demi, I guess I'm just a little upset because I just watched a series finale that left so much unresolved.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Clone High :'(
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What I also love about Fringe is the great cinematography, it just looks way more polished than Lost. Lost has its visual moments but Fringe is very consistent with the look.
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Just finished the finale...
Glad I didn't watch this show from the beginning or I'd be pissed right now. Instead I found the finale to be a good episode, but a laughable season finale. The one "big" answer provided is basically what people said after the first few episodes of S1: they're in Purgatory. Sure most of them died long after the initial crash or whatever, but it's still basically Purgatory.
What exactly about the island needed to be protected? Seriously, I figured there would be some "fruit of everlasting life" shit that people wanted, but I still can't grasp why anyone gave a shit about the island. And guess what - I'll never know. smh
The episode summed up the entire season: good, but a horrible finale. There is no closure here. Change a couple things at the end and you could have a couple more seasons easily. Of mysteries piled on mysteries. SMH
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What exactly about the island needed to be protected?
The key to letting black folks into Heaven?
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I can respect other peoples opinions towards the finale, but please do us all a favor and keep your theories on "whether they were dead the whole time" or "it's purgatory" to yourself. It was pretty clear cut what was what.
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Well plz explain it. The side wayz reality was purgatory, plain and simple
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Watched the first two episodes of Fringe tonight. The pilot episode has a really weird feel to it, although it's kind of hard to peg down just why. It doesn't have the feel of an episode of television series, but at the same time it doesn't quite feel like a movie either. I liked it though, although it did drag a bit at times. Second episode wasn't quite as good, I though, but certainly not bad. Will rent more episodes from Netflix and try to get caught up for season 3.
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Well plz explain it. The side wayz reality was purgatory, plain and simple
It was, but there are people who are saying the island was purgatory.
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Ohh I gotcha.
It was a good episode, the problem is that it was a bad finale. I doubt there would be many complaints if many of these mysteries were explained throughout the series, allowing the last season to progress instead of being bogged down by unanswered questions
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=21452464&postcount=8261
LOST
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Just finished the finale...
Glad I didn't watch this show from the beginning or I'd be pissed right now.
A lot of us aren't pissed because we dropped it initially during season 3 during that 3-4 month break or whatever and stopped giving a shit. Then we picked it back up cuz it was the cool thang to do.
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So did Claire die when she was preggers and then gave birth to a ghost baby?
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No
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Everyone (on the island at the time) died at the end of S5 correct
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No.
Christian Shepard told him that some died before him and some after. They show Jack dying, and he sees the plane taking off. Also Hurley lived on with Ben on the island after Jack died.
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PD's just trolling. Go to bed.
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And apparently they can choose when they're ready to move on, ie Ben deciding not to go?
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Everything that happened on the Island was real. The only purgatory was "timeline x"
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And apparently they can choose when they're ready to move on, ie Ben deciding not to go?
Ben, Alex and Rousseau still didn't have visions of their Island shenanigans, right?
So it's probably not the right time to move on yet.
Ben does.
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Hey, remember when Lost was good.
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Hey, remember when Lost was good.
Yeah, I remember when Evangeline Lily was on Letterman.
But then it started airing. :fbm
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The only decent about this whole thing was seeing Ben feel like such a fuck up.
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This is Fringe's third season, which is unprecedented as far as sci fi shows on Fox are concerned though. :o
Xfiles?
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It was a good scene, completely undermined by some shitty writing.
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Yeah, it was kinda perfect for ending the series, although I'm surprised I didnt catch the foreshadowing when they told him where the light cave was.
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I think it was a perfect bookend, but it had no emotional weight and had the unfortunate circumstance of running parallel to the ridiculous "afterlife" scene. Why should I care that Jack sacrificed himself, when I don't know what it was for and further riddles the mythos with inconsistencies (shouldn't he have turned into the smoke monster?).
Because, y'know, maybe if the writers had created a sense of urgency and stressed the importance of Jack's sacrifice, instead of vague and ambiguous bullshit, it would pull at my heart strings. Bush league stuff, but oh well. I wonder if the bullpen stopped caring by this point.
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that gaf thread sort of reminds me of the gaf michael jackson thread
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It really was perfect in a sense. Just like Evil Locke said "All this shit, for nothing."
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So, Lost is finished. I need a new fix.
How is Supernatural? Just downloaded the first season. Or are there better shows out there? I want a show with crazy things in it. So no The Wire or Sopranos, they sound VERY shitty. And no comedies.
Oh, and I'm also following Spartacus. But it'll take some time before the prequel hits..
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I'm moving on to Fringe and Flash Forward, probably.
Heroes was canned right? (It was shit since halfway through S2 anyway...)
FlashForward was cancelled too.
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FlashForward has Penny in it. She was also in Terminator.
I almost downloaded V, but that show has Juliet in it. :-\
I'd rather watch a show without any Lost characters in it.
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FlashForward has Penny in it. She was also in Terminator.
I almost downloaded V, but that show has Juliet in it. :-\
I'd rather watch a show without any Lost characters in it.
Fringe
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But Fringe has the dawsnon creek guy in it. I hate his face.
I think I'm staying with Supernatural, and maybe downloading the V pilot anyway. It sounds pretty awesome.
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No, don't download V.
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Dawson's Creek was filmed right here in Wilmington. Josh Jackson was known around town as a legitimately nice fellow. He saved a girl from drowning at one of the beaches. So you have a real life hero to look up to in Fringe, as opposed to Lost's Dr. Daddy Complex.
Dollhouse has a definite ending, right?
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I think it was a perfect bookend, but it had no emotional weight and had the unfortunate circumstance of running parallel to the ridiculous "afterlife" scene. Why should I care that Jack sacrificed himself, when I don't know what it was for and further riddles the mythos with inconsistencies (shouldn't he have turned into the smoke monster?).
Because, y'know, maybe if the writers had created a sense of urgency and stressed the importance of Jack's sacrifice, instead of vague and ambiguous bullshit, it would pull at my heart strings. Bush league stuff, but oh well. I wonder if the bullpen stopped caring by this point.
Pretty much. If you didn't truly care for the characters, there was no emotional weight to that episode. People in the GAF thread are laughing at me, saying the Fake Locke plot was "resolved." Uh, we still don't know why he wanted to leave, what would happen if he left, what was stopping him, etc. Bububu "Jacob's rules!" Yea, ok :lol
The most emotional scenes for me were when Locke X had his flashback, and Hurley not wanting Jack to sacrifice himself. With the Locke scene, it hit me just how bad I missed the "real" Locke. And with Hurley it was just a great moment, and he actually pulled off some good acting imo (compared to me wanting to laugh at him trying to cry after Jin and Sun died).
I happen to like the characters, and even while bracing for a religion-tinged disappointment, seeing the cast together in the church was great.
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Uh, we still don't know why he wanted to leave, what would happen if he left, what was stopping him, etc. Bububu "Jacob's rules!" Yea, ok :lol
we do know why he wants to leave tho. when he found out his mother was lying the entire tile about the island being all that there is he wanted to go out and see for himself.
now in regard to what was stopping him. there is no answer. and if there is, did you really wanna see them attempt to answer it?
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cool, i'll add dollhouse to the list with supernatural and fringe
i'll probably watch it first, as it is complete now
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http://scifiwire.com/2010/05/all-the-answers-and-quest.php
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I don't get it either, Maurice.
Someone said that all we needed to know was that the Man in Black wanted to leave the island and that he was "evil", and that should be good enough for the audience.
Why?
I mean, the guy never seemed all that evil. He never once hinted at trying to take over or destroy the world. He didn't even threaten to kill people's loved ones off the island. All he wanted to do was leave, and he killed anyone in his way. If you were not opposing him, he didn't even care about you! He even warned people at the Temple, and let everyone live who didn't stay back. There are Wall Street traders more malevolent than this guy.
... so why should I care that this guy leaves the island? Why should Jack's death matter to me if I don't really understand what it is was for?
So stupid.
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BTW MiB's name was Samuel.
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For those who want to listen to a good discussion on the Lost ending, check out the Screened podcast http://www.screened.com/podcast/ (http://www.screened.com/podcast/)
Of course don't listen to it if you haven't watched the ending.
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BTW MiB's name was Samuel.
That'd be great if it was on the show.
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Just another nagger trying to get out of jail
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His name could be Maurice for all I care, I just wanted a reason why the wheel room was frozen
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I don't get it either, Maurice.
Someone said that all we needed to know was that the Man in Black wanted to leave the island and that he was "evil", and that should be good enough for the audience.
Why?
I mean, the guy never seemed all that evil. He never once hinted at trying to take over or destroy the world. He didn't even threaten to kill people's loved ones off the island. All he wanted to do was leave, and he killed anyone in his way. If you were not opposing him, he didn't even care about you! He even warned people at the Temple, and let everyone live who didn't stay back. There are Wall Street traders more malevolent than this guy.
... so why should I care that this guy leaves the island? Why should Jack's death matter to me if I don't really understand what it is was for?
So stupid.
It doesn't help much that Jacob is not shown to be much more benevolent. Throughout the series he withholds answers, messes with people's lives, and does nothing as countless people die for a cause that they know absolutely nothing about.
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I don't get it either, Maurice.
Someone said that all we needed to know was that the Man in Black wanted to leave the island and that he was "evil", and that should be good enough for the audience.
Why?
I mean, the guy never seemed all that evil. He never once hinted at trying to take over or destroy the world. He didn't even threaten to kill people's loved ones off the island. All he wanted to do was leave, and he killed anyone in his way. If you were not opposing him, he didn't even care about you! He even warned people at the Temple, and let everyone live who didn't stay back. There are Wall Street traders more malevolent than this guy.
... so why should I care that this guy leaves the island? Why should Jack's death matter to me if I don't really understand what it is was for?
So stupid.
It doesn't help much that Jacob is not shown to be much more benevolent. Throughout the series he withholds answers, messes with people's lives, and does nothing as countless people die for a cause that they know absolutely nothing about.
And what does that sound like?
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Sam's mother tells him there's nothing beyond the sea, but after a ship finds its way to the island he realizes she's been lying. Naturally Sam wants to meet other people and travel the world. Not one time was it even hinted that Sam had some master plan to destroy the world. I guess you could say Jacob and his mother were concerned Sam might bring more people to the island, but even that makes little sense considering the amount of people Jacob brought. It makes no sense.
All in all it seems like Sam was just a curious guy who wanted to escape his oppressive family. Poor Sam :'(
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He didn't even threaten to kill people's loved ones off the island.
ITT, Wilco tries too hard and doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.
BTW, I love Fringe, but if one want's to get into a pissing match about how tight it supposedly is compared to Lost (while only juggling three, three! characters) you'll drown in egg and tears on your face.
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So Lost gets points for throwing more shit at the wall?
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:lol
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It was always throwing shit at the wall. It's just alot of that shit they decided that it wasn't important enough to through in didactic scenes where it's explictly explained (even to the folks in the backseat). That might be a dealbreaker to some but oh well.
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So Lost gets points for throwing more shit at the wall?
The more confusing the show is and the more unanswered questions there are the more we understand 9/11.
Or the more we understand ourselves
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So Lost gets points for throwing more shit at the wall?
It doesn't get points, but it also doesn't get docked points when you create your own set of Q's when watching it and find out that it wasn't dedicating it's plot to providing your specific answer key.
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So Lost gets points for throwing more shit at the wall?
It doesn't get points, but it also doesn't get docked points when you create your own set of Q's when watching it and find out that it wasn't dedicating it's plot to providing your specific answer key.
This.
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Yeah because the whole premise of the show wasn't based around constantly introducing mysteries that led to vast speculation. Geez what did you expect when the whole show was a question? Answers? Gimme a break.
What answers (fuck it I'll give it airquotes) "anwsers" did you want?
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:-[
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Lost was a good show. Well written/acted, great production values, hybrid show (sci fi, fantasy, religion, etc). Surely we can agree it had some good seasons (great imo, like S1 and S4)
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S2 was the best followed by Season 3.
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I'd agree, It doesn't make my top 5 (nor top 10 if we include comedies), but it is a show that will be ultimatley be a unique sucess (and a unique failure) unlike no other. YMMV will vary, as always.
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Half of S3 sucks
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I wanted to reply to the ridiculous Fringe comment (how dare they have three well-written characters versus an ensemble cast of BORING), but Juice and Cohen did the Lord's work for me.
Maybe I will enjoy the finale once I let the fan community fill in all the blanks for the writers. Could Lost be the first franchise made better by fan fiction?
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http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2010/05/lost-exclusive-abc-sets-the-record-straight-about-the-series-finales-plane-crash-images.html
You know those Oceanic 815 plane crash images that ran after Jack's (Matthew Fox) eye closed and the "Lost" logo appeared on our TV screens? Some "Lost" fans and TV critics have wondered if they were a last Easter egg from the producers, a clue meant to lead us to conclude that no one survived Oceanic 815's crash landing — and therefore everything we've seen over the last six years never really happened.
Well, ABC wants to clear the air: Those photographs were not part of the "Lost" story at all. The network added them to soften the transition from the moving ending of the series to the 11 p.m. news and never considered that it would confuse viewers about the actual ending of the show.
"The images shown during the end credits of the 'Lost' finale, which included shots of Oceanic 815 on a deserted beach, were not part of the final story but were a visual aid to allow the viewer to decompress before heading into the news," an ABC spokesperson wrote in an e-mail Tuesday.
That means, Losties, that we were not supposed to think that Christian Shepherd (John Terry) is a liar. What Christian told his son, when they were reunited at the church, should serve as guidance for our interpretation of the series' ending.
So let's review: Christian told Jack that he was dead and everyone else in the church was too — some had died before Jack, as we already knew, and some died long after. The sideways flashes then were a step in everyone's after-lives, a way to reconnect before moving on permanently. While there still may be unanswered questions related to that religious and spiritual conclusion to the "Lost" story, the photographs were really just a nostalgic, transitional touch added by ABC executives — and not executive producers Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse.
Love or hate it, that's the final answer.
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I wanted to reply to the ridiculous Fringe comment (how dare they have three well-written characters versus an ensemble cast of BORING), but Juice and Cohen did the Lord's work for me.
Maybe I will enjoy the finale once I let the fan community fill in all the blanks for the writers. Could Lost be the first franchise made better by fan fiction?
Well the writers left the fan fiction community with lots of material:
Origins of the Island
Walt's powers
Dogen and the Temple
Hurley and Ben's tenure as protectors of the Island
The future of those who escaped
etc.
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http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2010/05/lost-exclusive-abc-sets-the-record-straight-about-the-series-finales-plane-crash-images.html
You know those Oceanic 815 plane crash images that ran after Jack's (Matthew Fox) eye closed and the "Lost" logo appeared on our TV screens? Some "Lost" fans and TV critics have wondered if they were a last Easter egg from the producers, a clue meant to lead us to conclude that no one survived Oceanic 815's crash landing — and therefore everything we've seen over the last six years never really happened.
Well, ABC wants to clear the air: Those photographs were not part of the "Lost" story at all. The network added them to soften the transition from the moving ending of the series to the 11 p.m. news and never considered that it would confuse viewers about the actual ending of the show.
"The images shown during the end credits of the 'Lost' finale, which included shots of Oceanic 815 on a deserted beach, were not part of the final story but were a visual aid to allow the viewer to decompress before heading into the news," an ABC spokesperson wrote in an e-mail Tuesday.
That means, Losties, that we were not supposed to think that Christian Shepherd (John Terry) is a liar. What Christian told his son, when they were reunited at the church, should serve as guidance for our interpretation of the series' ending.
So let's review: Christian told Jack that he was dead and everyone else in the church was too — some had died before Jack, as we already knew, and some died long after. The sideways flashes then were a step in everyone's after-lives, a way to reconnect before moving on permanently. While there still may be unanswered questions related to that religious and spiritual conclusion to the "Lost" story, the photographs were really just a nostalgic, transitional touch added by ABC executives — and not executive producers Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse.
Love or hate it, that's the final answer.
:lol
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Don't laugh. People were dumb enough to think that meant they all died in the crash.
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Nah, I'm going to laugh anyway.
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Well the writers left the fan fiction community with lots of material:
Origins of the Island
Hurley and Ben's tenure as protectors of the Island
I could see them milking the series with a spin-off about either of these after seeing how shitty all of ABC's new shows are and considering how desperate they are to find a replacement for Lost
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how dare they have three well-written characters versus an ensemble cast of BORING
In what way are Fringe's main three so well-written? Please show your work.
Hint - Walter being now BEFUDDLED OLD COOT while once he was MORALLY BLIND SCIENTIST is not a character arc.
Can I also get a :palinlol for Willco somehow thinking the WTC reveal was some amazing reveal. Worst possible cool twist ever.
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They've already said no spin off and no movie.
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I don't know why ABC would be in a rush to find a Lost replacement with a spinoff. It's not like it was a huge audience draw during the last several years, infact the numbers just got lower and lower as it went on. If they were stupid enough to green light it, I'd imagine that'd it get pulled by midseason.
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maybe now ABC will give Day Break a second chance!!! :'(
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how dare they have three well-written characters versus an ensemble cast of BORING
In what way are Fringe's main three so well-written? Please show your work.
Hint - Walter being now BEFUDDLED OLD COOT while once he was MORALLY BLIND SCIENTIST is not a character arc.
Can I also get a :palinlol for Willco somehow thinking the WTC reveal was some amazing reveal. Worst possible cool twist ever.
I thought it was a cool reveal.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
It also made me think about how the world has changed since 9/11 :derp
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:lol
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Hey guys remember when Lost ended with them all getting absorbed by non-denominational light? :lol
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Hey guys, remember Willco hyperventillating about Fringe when
spoiler (click to show/hide)
they just sent Fringe's knockoff of a CW knockoff of a syndicated cable knockoff of Heroes into an alternate universe to confront their goatee'd alternate dimension selves? LOLOLOL good times. LOST ANNIHILATED
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They were just trying to
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you how to
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Willco
Lost :lol
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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:lol
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ok thats funny
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via Patel:
http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1936291
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Lost fans :lol
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All I can remember about that fateful day when the towers fell was thinking, "How long will it take for escapism entertainment to teach me a lesson that most questions will remain unanswered?"
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911 was a smoke monster job
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That actually makes more sense.
It's the LOST ending ala St. Elsewhere.
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please someone make a gif of that autistic kid's snowglobe with the island in it
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via Patel:
http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1936291
:munch Lost :munch
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The additional footage being added is of Hurley and Ben protecting the island.
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it was less distinguished mentally-challenged when we all thought it might be some nanabot swarm island defense system (i personally thought it was something the others had accidentally brought back from the future during an "island-shifting" and could not control but had learned to defend against)
yes, still distinguished mentally-challenged, but i like to think that would have been less distinguished mentally-challenged than CLOUD OF PURE EVIL
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The Walking Dead this fall on AMC. Gonna be hot.
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I agree about The Walking Dead. Can't wait.
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:bow Fringe :bow2
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Yeah, losers that like shows with coherent narratives and satisfying story arcs. We really suck. How can anyone want either of those in a post-9/11 society? :'(
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Gay subtext :hyper
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I agree about The Walking Dead. Can't wait.
Me three.
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Hey, so what's everyone going to watch now?
Nothing, I'm done with TV as far as I know
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I figure this is the best place to post this.
[youtube=560,345]MKcKtjrL5bc[/youtube]
the crash of flight 815 in real time. includes Desmond failing to push the button, The Others book club scene, and of course the plane perspective itself.
pretty awesome
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That's pretty friggin sweet
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yeah, that was pretty cool, too bad none of it mattered in the end
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yeah, them crashing on the island had nothing to do with anything
spoiler (click to show/hide)
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didn't say it had nothing to do with anything, said none of it mattered at the end (paraphrasing desmond himself)
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That's by far the worst interpretation of anything ever, especially since mere moments later he realized he was wrong.
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no, when they all held hands in the nondenominational worship zone and walked into the light and everyone realized they wasted entire episodes on characters which didn't exist, i am pretty sure he was right
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I'm pretty sure it was him believeing Lost-purgatory was some real alternate reality he could access, so that nothing in the real world "mattered" as there were alternate selves to go to. Then he pulled the stone cork and it didn't happen and he realized he was wrong.
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There's a Lost epilogue coming out, on the season 6 DVD presumably. It was available on some website, but they had to take it down.
Assuming anyone cares.
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It's pretty shit don't bother
"Answers":
- Who was delivering the pallet drops? [ Two guys in Guam who have been receiving coodinates from the Lamp Post station for the past 20 years ]
- What was the Hurley Bird? [ A genetically altered bird from the Hydra station ]
- Why does Pierre Chang have aliases? [ Because he didnt want anyone revealing his name (seriously) ]
- What is Room 23? [ An interrogation room for the hostiles to learn about a diety they worship called Jacob ]
- Walt? [ Went "crazy" and put himself in the Santa Rosa hospital because he knew he was special and nobody believed him and knew they would come back for him (he never wanted to leave the island in the first place remember). Hurley and Ben say he has a "job to do" and they leave. That's it. (This could explain why Hurley and Ben are in the afterlife, and not Walt) ]
- Why Polar Bears? [ They did tests on them at Hydra with ElectroMagnetism, then attached a collar (tracking collar) to them and shuffled them to Orchid, which is where the Wheel was, and they would get poof'd to Tunisia Desert ]
- Pregnancy Issue? [ Something something ElectroMagnetism affects gestation period. Along those lines. ]
I think that covers it...
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:lol
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The epilogue should have been Ben and Hurley balling it up on the Island.