BioWare Looking to Make Mass Effect 2 More Challenging
Posted December 4, 2009 by James Brightman
With Dragon Age already on store shelves and off to a pretty solid start, BioWare is now turning its attention towards its next major release, the sequel to Mass Effect. Although the first game garnered numerous awards and was a success for BioWare, some gamers felt it was too easy.
Mass Effect 2 producer Adrien Cho sees this as an unfortunate trend in the industry and he's looking to at least provide players with a greater challenge in the upcoming RPG slated for January. “Sometimes I think we’re pampering gamers too much,” he told VideoGamesDaily. “Just recently, a game like Demon Souls is fantastic because when you die, and you fail, it’s not because the game was cheap it’s usually because you didn’t do something properly. It goes back to that learning mechanism of 'Well, I tried this – it didn’t work. I’m going to try something different.' And I think that’s going to be something in Mass Effect 2, we don’t want it to be a cakewalk, you want a challenge."
Sometimes developers don't give gamers enough credit. “I think gamers want a more sophisticated game, they don’t want a breezy game where you see all the cinematics and just put in your hours and play it through," added Cho. "So definitely there’s some serious consequences. Delicious consequences! You’ll have to play to find out.”
Personally, we found the first Mass Effect to be very enjoyable (except for the horrid item management and elevator load times), so we're eager to see what changes BioWare has made. The game will likely be a top seller in calendar Q1 of next year as well, which is looking far busier than any Q1 in recent memory.
"Maybe. Hopefully..." is a good response. Videos show the game to be a lot more of a shooter now, so, is it going to be like Borderlands now where there are high level enemies with huge health bars? is it going to require skills necessary in shooters now? are they going to make team work/control more important?
I will miss being able to snipe people with my shotgun through the entire game. The new biotic/tech powers look pretty cool, so hopefully it all works out.
To be fair, in ME1 if you didn't do the side quests it could be finished in about 10-14 hours. Maybe they wanted people who played it as a straight shot to enjoy what was there. I thought it was fine in Dragon Age. ME2 actually seems to give you less stats/abilities to level up, but they also showed how there are changes to those powers as they get stronger. Maybe that's a good compromise.I just sort of feel Bioware had gotten very lazy with their combat engine design period. The low point was Jade Empire. A game with a shitload of flaws but a game that actually had a fairly interesting combat design. Which they completely fucked up by never requiring you to actually use it and being able to get through the entire game by simply button mashing.
Hard like Dragon Age? So Soldiers will be weak bitches at the mercy of every magic CC in the game, but Adepts will be grim reapers obliterating all that they see from 100 yards?
ME was ridiculously easy. That game had no challenge at all. You didn't even have to bother with installing a single mod to weapon/ armour. And maxing your level at around 70% of the game without grinding is a fucking design error.It took me almost two full playthroughs to get to level 60. You are right about difficulty though, even insane mode was easy
I actually thought ME was sorta challenging in a "learners curve" sorta way at the beginning, but once I got it in my head that the game wasn't a shooter, but still an rpg, it became a lot easier.
Sometimes developers don't give gamers enough credit. “I think gamers want a more sophisticated game, they don’t want a breezy game where you see all the cinematics and just put in your hours and play it through"
QuoteSometimes developers don't give gamers enough credit. “I think gamers want a more sophisticated game, they don’t want a breezy game where you see all the cinematics and just put in your hours and play it through"
This has sort of been my core condemnation of console gaming for quite a few years now, nice to see a developer like Bioware actually recognize it as a problem.
ME had that one boss fight on Noveria where you fight the smurf's mother. I went there first and got owned. Came back later and it was a breeze.
I just threw up my hands and went somewhere else.
I almost never agree with this "consolization" argument as that isn't what is going on in a lot of cases. Neverwinter Nights didn't require much strategy either despite looking like it does or should. There is simply good game design and weak game design. Especially for battle engines or reward mechanics.
I don't really think wrpgs can be hard without being brokenly stupid hard. They give you too many options, too much freedom. It's like N1 srpgs. You can't balance something to be balanced for every class, weapon, armor, skill. The more games limit your freedom the more challenging they can be since they know exactly what you'll be like and can make something that is the perfect challenge for that situation.
I don't really think wrpgs can be hard without being brokenly stupid hard. They give you too many options, too much freedom. It's like N1 srpgs. You can't balance something to be balanced for every class, weapon, armor, skill. The more games limit your freedom the more challenging they can be since they know exactly what you'll be like and can make something that is the perfect challenge for that situation.
ME2 won't be nearly as good as DA, which I need to finish btw.
Dragon Age is tough because it controls for shit, not because of actual skill level.
ME2 won't be nearly as good as DA, which I need to finish btw.
How can a game have bad controls when you can PLAY IT PAUSED ???
Japanese games especially jRPGs are "hard" because they throw overpowered bosses around and you have to grind for hours before challenging them. That's not hard like WRPGs, that's distinguished mentally-challenged hard.
can't decide between pc or ps3, I dont think I have my 360 save anymore. :(
not yetthat's all you had to say :-X
How poor do you have to be to not own 360? They're practically cracker jack prizes at this point. Shouldn't you try to get more hours at Denny's or whatever instead of posting useless drivel on the internet?
I think you got a little mixed up there, food bank.How poor do you have to be to not own 360? They're practically cracker jack prizes at this point. Shouldn't you try to get more hours at Denny's or whatever instead of posting useless drivel on the internet?
About as poor as you are illiterate.
And it does exist on PS3, just not in a place where we can buy it yet.:lol
Dragon Age has spoiled me. I can't handle this good/nuetral/evil shit anymore.
Tell the human ambassador to stfu and I get renegade points. Sigh.
I hope ME2 doesn't have an alignment system but I'm doubtful.
As if Dragon Age is radically different.
It doesn't have an alignment system. That makes all the difference in the world.
No it doesn't.
You can simply give party members gifts. That is not an alignment system in the traditional sense.
It's still better than having the game tell me,"Okay what you just said was evil. Minus 2 points, jackass!" simply because I tell an npc to stfu.
For me that makes all the difference.
In DA, I tend to choose what I truly feel. In games like ME, I always feel like I have to choose a choice for the alignment I'm currently pursuing.
One is annoying, the other isn't.
No it doesn't.
You can simply give party members gifts. That is not an alignment system in the traditional sense.
If you do something evil. Morrigan approves. If you do something good. Morrigan doesn't like it. That's alignment. All it's doing is switching it from you to your party memebers. The gifts are just a game mechanic to off set that if you want to play evil or good but still keep people of the opposite alignment in your party.
Well, the alignment system is hidden then. It's not like the game explicitly spells out you're good/neutral/evil, which is my beef. In Dragon Age, I just say what I want without having to worry about consequences, and I do fine. Which is far more preferable to a game that gives me evil points because I tell an npc to stfu. That is beyond irritating.
How does it? It's just a approval bar. That's not alignment in the sense that it shows whether the character is good/nuetral/evil. It's just displaying their approval of you, the main character. The game doesn't flat out say,"Oh this character is evil". That is because the alignment system is hidden behind an approval system.
Well, the alignment system is hidden then. It's not like the game explicitly spells out you're good/neutral/evil, which is my beef. In Dragon Age, I just say what I want without having to worry about consequences, and I do fine. Which is far more preferable to a game that gives me evil points because I tell an npc to stfu. That is beyond irritating.
The things that's improved from Dragon Age to Mass Effect arguably is that your choices have a stronger impact because party members will leave. I don't think people in Mass Effect could leave your party based on your actions for the most part although I never quite finished Mass Effect and it's been awhile since I played it so I can't remember. That's a nice design (although gifts for the most part negate the consequences here so arguably its moot)
Otherwise it's mostly the same thing. You pick a path to maximize benefits. The same thing happens in Dragon Age since they reward close relationships with people in your party with character benefits.
... the bar that goes from the DO NOT LIKE to LOVE spectrum is not an alignment?
Well hopefully I can tell people I don't like to stfu in ME2 without getting punished like in DA.
It's the same reason why everytime you play a New Metroid game, you begin with no powers. Because its easier to design that sort of game and still create progression.
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Was that a guy or girl narrating?
Can someone spoil what happens in ME1 whenspoiler (click to show/hide)You're on the last planet or w/e chasing Garros I think was his name? I stopped playing there for some reason. :/[close]
:gloomy im sad because i cant use a party config :gloomy
It's a shooter, you're not marrying the characters, dudebro.
:gloomy im sad because i cant use a party config :gloomy
It's a shooter, you're not marrying the characters, dudebro.
If it is still somewhat like the first game, the characters in your party do matter. Bioware even mentioned that the ending of the game changes based on party members you've built up. So, it does matter. I want the ending to involve me and two space monsters tearing shit up, not me and two humans discussing space diplomacy are lame shit like that.
If they can flesh out proper world design, Mass Effect 2 could be GAME OF THE CENTURY.
you still have time to play through it before ME2, Bildi. Do it. Put down the Dragon Age if you have to.
I was essentially going to post this last night but I got too lazy. Mass Effect is a decent enough game but I've struggled to maintain interest over its flaws to beat the first. It seems like an AC 2 situation where you can sort of skip the first one.you still have time to play through it before ME2, Bildi. Do it. Put down the Dragon Age if you have to.
I'm really not a Bioware fan so it only takes minor annoyances to put me off their games (like silly dialogue, excessive loading times or a choppy framerate).
I'm just going to go with Mass Effect 2 I think. It looks like yet another sequel this gen that fixes most flaws in the first game that put anyone off.
My short time with the game shed a little bit of light on how the save-importing feature will work, though I wasn't provided with a sample save to try importing myself. That at least made it clear what the game's default history will be, if you don't import a save. It assumes that you allowed the Citadel high council to die at the end of the first game, for instance, allowing humans to take control of the highest positions of government. It also says that you allowed Kaidan Alenko to die, sparing that space bigot Ashley Williams for the sequel. Of course, the reverse might be true in your game, depending on how you played.
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What'd you guys do in your games?
First game, I had Kaiden die, I saved the council, and Wrex still lived.
I read this from the giantbomb preview:QuoteMy short time with the game shed a little bit of light on how the save-importing feature will work, though I wasn't provided with a sample save to try importing myself. That at least made it clear what the game's default history will be, if you don't import a save. It assumes that you allowed the Citadel high council to die at the end of the first game, for instance, allowing humans to take control of the highest positions of government. It also says that you allowed Kaidan Alenko to die, sparing that space bigot Ashley Williams for the sequel. Of course, the reverse might be true in your game, depending on how you played.
Sticky: Saved Games Importing information, bonuses and New Game +
Chris Priestly
Community Coordinator
From: Behind an Evil desk in Marketing Posted: Thursday, 24 December 2009 05:14PM
We know many fans of Mass Effect have been asking how their saved games would transfer between Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect 2. We have put together details you need to know about transferring your saves between ME1 and ME2.
I am sure this will create some new questions. Please ask them in this thread and, post Xmas break, I will try to get them answered for you.
Save Game Import
* Upon starting a new game from the main menu, players can import a character save from Mass Effect 1
* The Player chooses which character to bring in. Bringing in more than one character is possible, this will create a second or additional profile(s), just like in Mass Effect 1.
* For Xbox 360 players need to be signed into your profile that you used to play through Mass Effect 1.
* On PC players will select the .MassEffectSave files to import.
* The profile and save data must be present on the hard drive and not an MU.
* There is a limit of 11 end-of-game saves that can be imported into ME2. This means that if the player was to complete ME1 12 times, regardless of the number of unique playthroughs used, the 12th save will not be available for import, but saves 1 through 11 will be available.
At this point we have revealed that the save game import system will carryover all your decisions and plot decisions from ME1 into ME2. Did you save the Council? Who survived Virmire? And how did you handle your most ardent fan? We don’t want to list everything out and spoil the surprises we have in store for you, but rest assured you will be pleased when you see just how much carries over into Mass Effect 2.
Up until now we have only discussed the plot impacts of this feature, however, there are also certain gameplay perks as well. If you finished ME1 as a high level character you will receive greater bonuses than those who finished at lower levels. Ex, if you finished ME1 as a level 35 character, you will receive a bonus, but if you finished ME1 as a level 50 character, your bonus will be larger. That being said these bonuses will not put new playthrough characters at a severe disadvantage. For example, some of these bonuses include a monetary boost at the start of the game, or additional research resources for use at the Normandy’s Tech Lab. Another perk is if you finished the game as a Paragon or Renegade, part of your alignment will carry over making it easier to access certain dialogue options.
Finally, some technical information regarding the feature as well. If players start a New Game + after beating the game they will be able to re-use the same character import file they did for their first playthrough. Yes New Game + is making a return to Mass Effect 2! Additionally as mentioned above, make sure you are playing on your Xbox 360 profile that you completed ME1 on and that the profile and save data is present on the Hard Drive and not a MU. If you want to do a quick check and make sure you are good to go, load up Mass Effect 1 and see if the New Game + option appears. That will let you know your save game is ready for Mass Effect 2.
We are definitely excited to share this brand new feature with everyone, and remember what you do in Mass Effect 2, will have consequences in Mass Effect 3!
Does anyone now how long is the Mass Effect campaign, roughly?
I don't remember which class my original character was...I just remember that he was very good with the sniper...
yeah, I'm glad I picked Vanguard in ME1. Gonna dash into aliens like crazy.I don't remember which class my original character was...I just remember that he was very good with the sniper...
probably Infiltrator or Soldier
Why are there two Mass Effect 2 hype threads? Can Scenester just not read?
this will be the best game without a doubt
The main quest can be beaten in 15 hours anyways.
It seems that mako is out...no driving at all...bastards :maf
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The main quest can be beaten in 15 hours anyways.
Took me 10 hours on Normal. Maybe like two side-quests.
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My team shall be Shephard, Subject Zero and Miranda.
The main quest can be beaten in 15 hours anyways.
Took me 10 hours on Normal. Maybe like two side-quests.
Yeah, I'm playing on Easy, no side quests, and it's gonna take 8-9 hours. If anyone wants Paragon Female Shepard data for the PC, lemme know and I'll hook you up once I finish.
Bioware's goal, Hudson says, is to attract a non role-playing game audience and show them that they actually like the genre.
"A lot of what we are interested in in terms of audience is surprising people that they like RPGs," he said. "That's our favorite kind of new gamer. It's not that we would ever want to go away from making a great RPG experience, it's more about finding ways to show people that even though they didn't know it, they really like RPGs."
They are a business.
They want more people to buy their games.
They focused on fixing the shooting bits in the game since those were the weak points of the prior game.
It's a shooter rpg on a shooter box console.
They want to attract the larger shooter crowd that dwarfs the niche RPG crowd to get more sales by making the shooter part competent so it's a competent experience in that regard.
What part are you shocked about?
I'm just disappointed they're downplaying the rpg elements. What's wrong with that? I'm an rpg fan.
Do you have to support everything a developer does in order to understand why they're doing it or are you just playing dumb?
I'm just disappointed they're downplaying the rpg elements. What's wrong with that? I'm an rpg fan.
Do you have to support everything a developer does in order to understand why they're doing it or are you just playing dumb?
The first game was a streamlined rpg. If you had any delusions that this game was suddenly going to become Baldur's Gate 3 then I'm not sure what to say.
I'm just disappointed they're downplaying the rpg elements. What's wrong with that? I'm an rpg fan.
Do you have to support everything a developer does in order to understand why they're doing it or are you just playing dumb?
The first game was a streamlined rpg. If you had any delusions that this game was suddenly going to become Baldur's Gate 3 then I'm not sure what to say.
The first game was a streamlined rpg, but it was still definitely an rpg. Now you can't even level up on the spot anymore. You have to wait till you're done with the mission because leveling up apparently gets in the way of the action.
That's stupid.
And no amount of damage control can defend it unless you actually want it to be a full fledged third person shooter with rpg elements rather than an rpg with a third person shooter combat system.
While Mass Effect 2 will remain very solidly in the realm of role-playing game, the combat has been reworked specifically to try and attract the same sort of gamer who plays Modern Warfare 2
Hudson says the game stays true to the evolving definition of what makes a game a role-playing title.
Our definition of role-playing games is that in addition to the core gameplay you have the ability to explore your world freely, have a non-linear story and the progression of your character.
In the case of Mass Effect 2, while the game's combat feel a lot more like a straight third-person shooter, it's still built on the base of an RPG.
In the combat areas you are fighting your way through areas, you're shooting, you're planning your squad, you're doing all of the same things in this one as Mass Effect one, but each element works a little bit better.
It's no less of an RPG.
I think it's smart of them to make it more of a shooter with rpg rather than some failed hybrid like the first game. The shooting mechanic and specifically cover mechanic were a joke in the first game, and the western rpg aspects weren't much better. All the changes they've talked about seem for the better. You're still going to have hubs to have dialogue and things like that and leveling up and all that, but unlike the first game, it doesn't sound like I'll be bored out of my mind using my sniper shotgun to kill enemies like it's nothing. Beyond just making it play like a proper shooter, there seems to be a good squad mechanic now.
I'm just disappointed they're downplaying the rpg elements. What's wrong with that? I'm an rpg fan.
Do you have to support everything a developer does in order to understand why they're doing it or are you just playing dumb?
The first game was a streamlined rpg. If you had any delusions that this game was suddenly going to become Baldur's Gate 3 then I'm not sure what to say.
The first game was a streamlined rpg, but it was still definitely an rpg. Now you can't even level up on the spot anymore. You have to wait till you're done with the mission because leveling up apparently gets in the way of the action.
That's stupid.
And no amount of damage control can defend it unless you actually want it to be a full fledged third person shooter with rpg elements rather than an rpg with a third person shooter combat system.QuoteWhile Mass Effect 2 will remain very solidly in the realm of role-playing game, the combat has been reworked specifically to try and attract the same sort of gamer who plays Modern Warfare 2QuoteHudson says the game stays true to the evolving definition of what makes a game a role-playing title.QuoteOur definition of role-playing games is that in addition to the core gameplay you have the ability to explore your world freely, have a non-linear story and the progression of your character.QuoteIn the case of Mass Effect 2, while the game's combat feel a lot more like a straight third-person shooter, it's still built on the base of an RPG.QuoteIn the combat areas you are fighting your way through areas, you're shooting, you're planning your squad, you're doing all of the same things in this one as Mass Effect one, but each element works a little bit better.QuoteIt's no less of an RPG.
So...uh...what exactly is the problem here?
meh. I'll stop arguing.
The game will be out in a few weeks and then I'll be more than happy to discuss and dissect any criticism (since I had a lot directed at the first and felt it was mostly over-rated) at that point when anybody has actually played the game rather than nitpicking aspects I don't really care about. It seems to me you already have a pre-crafted position here.
I think it's smart of them to make it more of a shooter with rpg rather than some failed hybrid like the first game. The shooting mechanic and specifically cover mechanic were a joke in the first game, and the western rpg aspects weren't much better. All the changes they've talked about seem for the better. You're still going to have hubs to have dialogue and things like that and leveling up and all that, but unlike the first game, it doesn't sound like I'll be bored out of my mind using my sniper shotgun to kill enemies like it's nothing. Beyond just making it play like a proper shooter, there seems to be a good squad mechanic now.
What was frustrating about the first was that it could have been so great but there was just so many issues it dragged the whole experience down.
I was blown away by the aesthetic and the mood, and aspects of the story and universe and voice acting. But the shooter parts were mostly balls. The inventory system was painful. The sidequests were poorly integrated, the leveling upgrades weren't balanced and doled out at a nice clip, etc. Those are the issues that need to be addressed. I'm far less worried about it not being RPG enough.
I don't have a pre-crafted position. I'm just sayin'. I'm still going to get it on day one and I'm still pumped, more than I should be even. But some of the new details that have come to light really make me wonder what Bioware is thinking and who this game is being marketed to.
Himuro, I usually agree with you, but stop being a vagina. This is BioWare we're talking about. Has BioWare even made an action game? Ever? Like actually developed one? If they did, it was a mistake. There's a list of things that are actually worth wringing your hands about in the press releases for ME2, but if there's one thing that is undoubtedly NOT worth hand-wringing, is whether or not Mass Effect 2, a game developed by BIOWARE, is going to be RPG enough to satisfy fans of the genre.
preorder in, no ltd edition. As a wise man said "LTD edition? think i will skip it as i get little value from them nowadays - just a chunky box"
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Himuro, I usually agree with you, but stop being a vagina. This is BioWare we're talking about. Has BioWare even made an action game? Ever? Like actually developed one? If they did, it was a mistake. There's a list of things that are actually worth wringing your hands about in the press releases for ME2, but if there's one thing that is undoubtedly NOT worth hand-wringing, is whether or not Mass Effect 2, a game developed by BIOWARE, is going to be RPG enough to satisfy fans of the genre.
MDK2.
Also, I'm not complaining about better shooting in the least. That's actually a good thing.
I'm totally fine with that. I'm not fine with dumbing down an already dumbed down rpg formula in the game's sequel. That's really it, and it's a pretty understandable stance.
Is it expected given the direction of the industry? Maybe. Have I played the game? Nope. But I'm certainly disappointed with some direction Bioware is taking the series. You might as well market it as a third person shooter rather than an rpg; hence my problem.
Himuro, I usually agree with you, but stop being a vagina. This is BioWare we're talking about. Has BioWare even made an action game? Ever? Like actually developed one? If they did, it was a mistake.Aside from MDK2 (which Himuro already mentioned), their first game as Bioware was an action mech game known as Shattered Steel.
QuoteHimuro, I usually agree with you, but stop being a vagina. This is BioWare we're talking about. Has BioWare even made an action game? Ever? Like actually developed one? If they did, it was a mistake.Aside from MDK2 (which Himuro already mentioned), their first game as Bioware was an action mech game known as Shattered Steel.
So, yeah, they've made action games before. MDK2 was actually really good as well.
preorder in, no ltd edition. As a wise man said "LTD edition? think i will skip it as i get little value from them nowadays - just a chunky box"
Thanks for the reminder! I just pre-ordered it from Play-Asia too; since it's an EA game I have no idea if it will be region-free or not as their releases tend to vary.
Why did you not just order the Asian version? Cheaper too, I think.
haha, you can't upgrade your squad's equipment? Well I suppose that's one way to deal with the original game's poor itemization.
this sounds like a RPG for the bro set. I'm still waffling on the preorder.
i didn't know about the regenerating health...
i didn't know about the regenerating health...
Regen health is not by any means a bad thing.
i would prefer more rpg elements AND competent shooting. there's no reason whatsoever not to expect both.
as it has been stated many times already it just seems like they dumbed it all the way down in an effort to cater to the call of duty crowd.
Regen health is not by any means a bad thing.
I strongly disagree.
i would prefer more rpg elements AND competent shooting. there's no reason whatsoever not to expect both.
as it has been stated many times already it just seems like they dumbed it all the way down in an effort to cater to the call of duty crowd.
Regen health is not by any means a bad thing.
I strongly disagree.
i would prefer more rpg elements AND competent shooting. there's no reason whatsoever not to expect both.
as it has been stated many times already it just seems like they dumbed it all the way down in an effort to cater to the call of duty crowd.
I agree. That's why I'm looking forward to Alpha Protocol :teehee
Where are people getting the "you can only level up after a mission" thing from? I've looked around, but I haven't seen anything mention it.
i would prefer more rpg elements AND competent shooting. there's no reason whatsoever not to expect both.
as it has been stated many times already it just seems like they dumbed it all the way down in an effort to cater to the call of duty crowd.
I agree. That's why I'm looking forward to Alpha Protocol :teehee
When is AP due out?
i would prefer more rpg elements AND competent shooting. there's no reason whatsoever not to expect both.
as it has been stated many times already it just seems like they dumbed it all the way down in an effort to cater to the call of duty crowd.
I agree. That's why I'm looking forward to Alpha Protocol :teehee
When is AP due out?
i would prefer more rpg elements AND competent shooting. there's no reason whatsoever not to expect both.
as it has been stated many times already it just seems like they dumbed it all the way down in an effort to cater to the call of duty crowd.
After seeing how much that game sold i can see them trying to get that crowd.
Regen health is not by any means a bad thing.
I strongly disagree.
About regenerating health in general I don't actually care for it. The defense you hear for it is that it allows for each battle to be designed knowing you have full health. But I like planning ahead and gaining and advantage in the upcoming battle or even feeling like I have to play more cautious when my health is low.
Regenerating health in ME2 is, I don't think, a big departure from the first game. Between recharging health being an armor power up, you also had medigel flying out your ass on every difficulty. This is just bad design replacing worse design.
Watch Stoney defend this.
But, in rpgs at least, like in DA, your health only regens after battle. So even if you're in the middle of the battle, it's not going to recharge fast enough. It doesn't take away any strategic element.
In games like FF13, Valkyrie Profile 2 and Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter, your health is regenerated from battle to battle and yet people still claim Dragon Quarter to be OMG SO HARD.
In many strategy games, your health is renewed from battle to battle, and yet these games remain challenging.
In multiplayer shooters, you have regen health and it doesn't make the games any less challenging.
It wholly depends, just like any other piece of game design. Just because a game has regen health doesn't mean it lacks a strategic element in its gameplay. If anything, especially when it comes to rpgs, regenerated and renewed health means each battle continues to be its own scenario and situation, because the developers don't have to dumb down enemies to pander to the player's need for health. This makes each and every battle a unique situation.
I really disagree about regenerating health in multiplayer. The best moments of Counter Striker were being the last members alive, low health, and going around with a silenced weapon trying to pick off the remaining enemies knowing that you could be killed that much easier.
the entire reason someone can go and get an 11 kill streak in MW2 is because you can just hide out and be ready to take on the next guy at full strength. In older shooters, you may have died, but you could have also damaged him. All you do now is have him waste some ammo.
There's been health regeneration in multiplayer since Halo :lol
Watch Stoney defend this.
Jeez you are dumb.
I'll make all my posts about what was good or bad when I actually play the game. I don't play internet psychic like you do.
Nor do I pretend Mass Effect 1 was some ultimate game nor some ultimate RPG. It was what it was. And Mass Effect 2 will be what it will be. And I'll judge it based on that.
Watch Stoney defend this.
Jeez you are dumb.
I'll make all my posts about what was good or bad when I actually play the game. I don't play internet psychic like you do.
Nor do I pretend Mass Effect 1 was some ultimate game nor some ultimate RPG. It was what it was. And Mass Effect 2 will be what it will be. And I'll judge it based on that.
I was just messing with you. :'(
Well, evilbore rule number 1 is to bust everyone's balls.
I think it's always bullshit. On the final boss in ME I ran out of medi-gel and I was inches from death the entire time, with my entire crew dead. Made the battle 1000 times better. Health packs are an extremely underrated element of game design. Part of Half-Life 2's intensity is the sparsity of health packs, and how you manage yourself when you aren't sure how far you are from the next one.In my experience, the game gave so much medigel that it actually made most boss battles too easy.
Regen health is one of those things that contributes to games getting insultingly easy as time goes on. It's never appropriate, beneficial, or positive in any way, in any situation.
Except if the side missions involved partying it up in space cantinas or visiting beautiful alien worlds.
Does anyone know if Bring Down the Sky choices will be in ME2? Because I left my me pc box and cd key at home, so now i can't put in my cd key to get BDtS.
"Faster paced action and difficult ethical decisions make Mass Effec 2 even more immersive than the excellent original."
"you no longer have an inventory. its been replaced by a more abstract system, similar to a pure action game. Instead of loot drops abd containers full of equipable gear, you find technology pickups that can be researched on your ship to unlock new weapons."
"Also gone are equipment mods, replaced by castable abilities.... The miserably clunky inventory system of ME1 is no longer a problem, although the new weapon load-out and research interfaces aren't great either."
"character development(skills) has also been culled down to six or seven upgradeable skills for shepard and just four for companions. Has ME2 been dumbed down? Yeah abit, but these changes don't make it a worse game than its predecessor; it just haas some different priorities this time around,"
"Where Mass Effect 2 completely won me over was in the amazing climacitc mission, easily one of the best game endings i've played in recent years."
" The charm and intimidation skills that unlocked special conversation options in the first game have been melded into the Paragon/Renegade system, which now unlocks options based on how much of a swell guy or jerk you've been. "
" The way Paragon and Renegade points are handed out could have been better, however. Often you're dealing with an issue so ambiguous that either path could be seen as good or bad, and when I'm trying to be a good guy it awards me Renegade points without telling me what it was that I did to earn them. "
" The levels are attractive, but a bit blocky and workman like. Some have inexplicable waist-high barriers that pop out of the ground when combat begins to provide cover. It's so contrived it feels like an in-joke for cover-based shooter players. "
" But each has two character specific missions : one to recruit them and one optional personal that exposes their backstory and unlocks a special skill and new outfit. "
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"you no longer have an inventory. its been replaced by a more abstract system, similar to a pure action game. Instead of loot drops abd containers full of equipable gear, you find technology pickups that can be researched on your ship to unlock new weapons."
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Why did they meld charm/intimidation into alignment? That's stoopit and neither option has nothing to do with alignment.But charm and intimidate often created different results iirc.
Yeah but I'm pretty sure intimidating somebody into giving up instead of charming them usually gave you less paragon points or even renegade points, so it would have probably made sense in the last game if they tied it to alignment.
But it's still an RPG. Sorry if LARPing is your thing, geek.
What pops out of the ground in Gears?
Let's not kid ourselves here, the best parts of Mass Effect 1 were the world-building, story, characters, writing, and music. Not the RPG system or the combat.
I like ME because I like the combat; it's not perfect, but it's fun. And I also like the rpg'ing and story quests.
Let's not kid ourselves here, the best parts of Mass Effect 1 were the world-building, story, characters, writing, and music. Not the RPG system or the combat.
Exactly (except would disagree about most characters except Garrus). If ME1 was a great RPG I would understand if people were upset by the change.
Remember the great loot in ME1? Assassin Armor 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, or 10. So many choices.
Wrex > Garrus > Tali > Liara >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kaiden >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ashley
Let's not kid ourselves here, the best parts of Mass Effect 1 were the world-building, story, characters, writing, and music. Not the RPG system or the combat.
Exactly (except would disagree about most characters except Garrus). If ME1 was a great RPG I would understand if people were upset by the change.
Remember the great loot in ME1? Assassin Armor 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, or 10. So many choices.
Because instead of making it better, they completely ditched it. If you like rpgs, and want an rpg, you want a better experience, not a downgraded experience.
Liara sucks. She is so boring. She even admits she's boring.
The problem is that instead of making it into a better rpg, they ditched the rpg stuff in general. That's weak thinking. When I play a sequel, I want the sequel bigger and better in every way. Not with less features, especially if those features could have been improved upon.
But hey, ME2 looks like a great game despite all of this.
I'll think of it as Space Marines: The Wannabe RPG.
But I'm a human in ME and I'm not a boring character. Joker's not boring either!
But I'm a human in ME and I'm not a boring character. Joker's not boring either!
Joker? Are you kidding? It's Seth Green being Seth Green!
The problem is that instead of making it into a better rpg, they ditched the rpg stuff in general. That's weak thinking. When I play a sequel, I want the sequel bigger and better in every way. Not with less features, especially if those features could have been improved upon.
But hey, ME2 looks like a great game despite all of this.
I'll think of it as Space Marines: The Wannabe RPG.
So you'll think of it as Mass Effect 1
It took all of one conversation to hate Joker. If ME2 was like Dragon Age, I'd eject him into space with his stupid sarcasm and "pity me but don't show pity" attitude. I'd get Wrex to fart in his face before I did that.
All humans in Mass Effect sucked. When you go the space and you have all these space monsters, who wants to be stuck with boring ass humans? and all the humans are a bunch of whiny bitches. Garrus whines, sure, but about wanting to go and kill a doctor that got away. Space Cop :rock . Kaiden whines more about his biotic nonsense than Wrex does about his entire race going extinct--and this is between the stories Wrex tells you about killing things or wanting to kill things.
Humans rock. Humans for lyfe. Aliens are ugly.
The problem is that instead of making it into a better rpg, they ditched the rpg stuff in general. That's weak thinking. When I play a sequel, I want the sequel bigger and better in every way. Not with less features, especially if those features could have been improved upon.
But hey, ME2 looks like a great game despite all of this.
I'll think of it as Space Marines: The Wannabe RPG.
So you'll think of it as Mass Effect 1
Not really. To me, ME1 was an rpg with a shooter combat system. Not a shooter with rpg elements.
Don't really care about scores. Care what they say in the review.
+ One of the most memorable opening sequences ever.
+ Improved combat. It not only rivals dedicated 'cover-shooters', it actually betters them (aside from Gears 2 and Uncharted).
+ Brilliant dialogue interrupt system.
+ More refined inventory/equipment management. Improvements to weapons, armour etc (which carry across all party members) are carried out on the Normandy via 'research documents' that you buy or find. Quality of the research is dependant on the 'elements' that you find when scanning planets.
+ Less planets to explore, but much more varied and diverse. Some kick off quests that send you off to other planets/locations.
+ Near 'miraculous' art direction. All the worlds create a cohesive looking universe, but are never derivative or repetitive.
+ Sharper cinematics. Snappier editing, restless camera movement.
+ Memorable, well written and deep characters (a career best for Bioware).
- Repercussions of choices made in the first game aren't as keenly felt as they'd have liked
10/10
what's a games tm?
ok, sounds good thenTo be fair first one got 9/10 from them and apparently UK ME2 advert has "10/10 a masterclass in game design Games TM" stamped on it.
I always get confused when these early glowing reviews are from sources I've never heard of
I don't give a shit about RPG mechanics.
The mako sucked.It's been a while, but I do believe yes. I seem to remember thinking that I wanted Garrus to be my sniper so I maxed sniper rifle, etc.
You can't choose how to level up companions in ME1 either, can you? I turned off auto level and it STILL seemed like they learned stuff on their own.
The mako sucked.
You can't choose how to level up companions in ME1 either, can you? I turned off auto level and it STILL seemed like they learned stuff on their own.
Seems people are more offended by the concept of a sequel having things "taken away" than they are by the actual design decisions.
Just about every thing dumbed down for ME2 sucked balls in ME1.
There's no more inventory. Fine, the inventory sucked balls.
There's no more Mako. Fine, the Mako sucked balls.
You can't choose how to level companions. Fine, the companions sucked balls. Spend 1 second auto leveling them up or 10 minutes carefully choosing each skill point, they're still going to just stand there shooting at low priority targets, wasting magic spells and getting friendly fired.
Bring on the dumbed down ME. I don't give a shit about RPG mechanics. I just want to walk around crazy space planets with awesome music.
The mako sucked.
You can't choose how to level up companions in ME1 either, can you? I turned off auto level and it STILL seemed like they learned stuff on their own.
Seems people are more offended by the concept of a sequel having things "taken away" than they are by the actual design decisions.
Just about every thing dumbed down for ME2 sucked balls in ME1.
There's no more inventory. Fine, the inventory sucked balls.
There's no more Mako. Fine, the Mako sucked balls.
You can't choose how to level companions. Fine, the companions sucked balls. Spend 1 second auto leveling them up or 10 minutes carefully choosing each skill point, they're still going to just stand there shooting at low priority targets, wasting magic spells and getting friendly fired.
Bring on the dumbed down ME. I don't give a shit about RPG mechanics. I just want to walk around crazy space planets with awesome music.
:bow2
But I do want to promise a jelly fish monster to smuggle weapons, then turn him in for trying to do something illegal. Or help a mind hooker get a troubling client to stop spreading lies. Or crush some random guy's dreams of being the second human spectre.The mako sucked.
You can't choose how to level up companions in ME1 either, can you? I turned off auto level and it STILL seemed like they learned stuff on their own.
are you playing the PC verison? Mako does controller much better than on the 360. It's still a surprisingly awful mechanic to put in the game.
and you can choose how to level them up. I pretty much leveled up Garrus' electronic skills or whatever was necessary to open creates and other things.
[indent]Equipping Your Squad (http://"http://blog.bioware.com/2010/01/15/equipping-your-squad/") by Christina Norman
With up to 10 squad members, equipping your team in Mass Effect 2 could have been a daunting task. To make this task manageable we’ve made two inventory advancements: squad inventory, and auto-upgrades.
Squad Inventory
Whenever Shepard finds an upgraded weapon he scans it with his omni-tool, uploading detailed data to his ship. Using that data, this ship’s armory can replicate the weapon, making it available to any squad member trained to use that weapon type. For example, if you find a superior shotgun, your armory will fabricate copies, making that shotgun model available to any squad member with shotgun training. This gets rid of tedious inventory management tasks, like unequipping and transferring items between squad members.
Auto-Upgrades
Squad members will automatically start using upgraded weapons when they become available. Combined with squad based inventory, this makes managing your squad’s loadout very easy.
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Let’s say you find an upgraded sniper rifle. You scan it and upload the data to your ship’s armory. The armory immediately starts fabricating copies. Thane, back on your ship, grabs one from the armory and starts using it. All this is accomplished without any manual inventory management.
Customizing Your Team’s Loadout
You can customize your team’s loadout. At the start of every mission you’ll be given a chance to set weapons for your squad. At this point you can override any choices the auto-upgrade system has made. This is also your chance to customize Shepard’s weapons, including his heavy weapon.
Unique Weapons
While most weapons are shared, some are so advanced or so personalized to an individual that they can’t be easily replicated or transferred. These unique weapons will automatically be received by a specific squad member. This approach helps differentiate your squad members, and creates opportunities for individual progression. Since these weapons are tied to a specific squad member, they work with our auto- upgrade system. Your squad member will start using their new weapon immediately once you obtain it.[/indent]
So now if you find an awesome weapon, you dont have to make a hard choice who gets to use it, because you can dupe it?Except for unique weapons assigned to a certain character, like Garrus' father's sniper rifle.
:-X
I also said I clearly turned auto level off. It's okay, back and read again.
:lol @ Himumus ownage
Man, read the fucking manual before you start a game!
And honestly, isn't that what everyone wants in their RPG anyway? You give NPCs slightly better garbage the entire game in hopes that before the end you'll find Wrex's ceremonial armor or Tali's ceremonial face mask and it's just the BEST item they can have, it's ONLY meant for them, and now you're done, the character is minmaxed and you never have to agonize over their ultimately meaningless gear again.
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DLC character at launch apparently... I hope this is with all copies like DAO
The mako sucked.haha I thought the RPG parts were important to you? You can level up the squadmates manually and t's actually a lot more useful that way since things like lockpicking, hacking, medicine, etc have team benefits and mean that you don't have to waste xp on them.
You can't choose how to level up companions in ME1 either, can you? I turned off auto level and it STILL seemed like they learned stuff on their own.
:eep My favorite Bioware voice over ever.http://i46.tinypic.com/6xrmtl.jpg
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DLC character at launch apparently... I hope this is with all copies like DAO
Canderous?
Just beat ME1 on PC. PM me if you want a Female Paragon import. Specifics:spoiler (click to show/hide)- 75% Paragon
- Saved Rachni Queen
- Saved Wrex
- Killed Ashley
- Romanced Liara
- Saved Council
- Put Anderson on the Council[close]
Now my Shepard will be ... my Shepard. 8)
To get to your ship, you need to take an elevator down to the c-sec (or those fast transport things), then an elevator up to the docking bay. I remember this because that shit drove me crazy that they have one of the fast transport panels after the long elevator down from the docking bay instead of up there.
So I beat my ME replay:
- Full bar Paragon, 25% Renegade. So chaotic good, really.
- Killed the Rachni Queen.
- Romanced Ashley.
- Kaiden snuffed it.
- Council snuffed it. Destroying Sovereign > Saving the Council
- Anderson is human councilman.
or maybe the ELITE RACHNI ARACHNOTROOPER will join our parties 8)
Why save the rachni queen? She'd just breed more rachni, which would result in more death probably. Better to kill it; won't make a difference anyways considering people consider the rachni already extinct. Furthermore, didn't Sovereign do something to the rachni to make them hostile the past? What's to say that won't happen again? Best to kill the ugly bug.
If they showed Rachni that DOESN'T want to kill you in the game aside from the rachni queen, maybe I'd settle for saving it.
And Ashley is still better than Liara.
Liara is seriously boring as hell. Boomstick > Asari princess chick who's so so so alone and hates people
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or maybe the ELITE RACHNI ARACHNOTROOPER will join our parties 8)
8)Why save the rachni queen? She'd just breed more rachni, which would result in more death probably. Better to kill it; won't make a difference anyways considering people consider the rachni already extinct. Furthermore, didn't Sovereign do something to the rachni to make them hostile the past? What's to say that won't happen again? Best to kill the ugly bug.
If they showed Rachni that DOESN'T want to kill you in the game aside from the rachni queen, maybe I'd settle for saving it.
And Ashley is still better than Liara.
Liara is seriously boring as hell. Boomstick > Asari princess chick who's so so so alone and hates people
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I really don't understand your hate for Liara. Or why you like Ashley. Do you have a thing for closet-dyke bible-thumpers? :smug
Hey, at least I wouldn't be bored. :smug
Hey, at least I wouldn't be bored. :smug
Ashley:
> Racist
> Religious
> Daddy Issues
> Will kill your rabbit
> Will kill YOU
Liara:
> Innocent
> Studious
> Knowledgable
> Mommy Issues
> Probably has two vaginas
> Easy to convince of doing anal sex "for the sake of science" (if she even has one)
> Can use Biotics
Ashley:
> Racist
> Religious
> Daddy Issues
> Will kill your rabbit
> Will kill YOU
Liara:
> Innocent
> Studious
> Knowledgable
> Mommy Issues
> Probably has two vaginas
> Easy to convince of doing anal sex "for the sake of science" (if she even has one)
> Can use Biotics
lol why is this even a debate? liaria is an alien. you have the chance to swoon an alien into intergalactic-interspecies sex. if not for your role as shep, you do it for the human race.
Ashley:
> Xenophobic
> Good with a gun, and nothing else
> Religious
> Slightly logical, for a religious goof.
> Aggressive and strong. Tries to kill best character in the game
> Relies on obsolete weaponry instead of brain-powerz
> Tough girl
> Adventurous
> Has a vagina
> Looks like Mila Kunis with downs
Liara:
> Naive, but ridiculously book-smart
> Sheltered, but really a freak in the sack
> Babby (100 years old when Asari have 1000 year old life spans) Babyfuck it's awwright
> Studious
> Mommy Issues, until Noveria
> Not adventurous, would rather sit in lab and study samples, until you take her with you on a mish, then she's gung-ho
> Probably has no vagina based on what she said in game, but instead something even better
> Can't blow an enemy in half with a shotgun, but can throw them across a room without touching them
Look dude, this is all I gotta post.
http://www.planetdamage.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/504x_mass_effect_comic.jpg
She's straight beast. Where's Ashley at? Prolly at some sermon eating crackers like a two cent china whore.
Does Ashley try to kill Wrex when he tries to kill YOU?
Why should I care about what my team mates do? I'm a vanguard! I can throw and lift whoever!
I have a question that maybe one of you might know the answer to.
I've look on the net for some answer but there's not much about how additional play-through's affect your game in ME2. I have a save from ME1 where I completed play-through one with full paragon and did all side quest's. But then I played it again and passed up on a lot of the optional missions for play-through two. Will ME2 look at my first play-through where I did all side quest's and made all the choices possible to my character. Or will it use my second play-through? Cause if its the later I better get cracking at playing the game again.
Doesn't Ashley try to kill Wrex when he tries to kill YOU? In which case, charm maxed = 8)
Doesn't Ashley try to kill Wrex when he tries to kill YOU? In which case, charm maxed = 8)
No, she shoots him anyway cause she's a racist gunnut without talking - a Republican
I have a question that maybe one of you might know the answer to.
I've look on the net for some answer but there's not much about how additional play-through's affect your game in ME2. I have a save from ME1 where I completed play-through one with full paragon and did all side quest's. But then I played it again and passed up on a lot of the optional missions for play-through two. Will ME2 look at my first play-through where I did all side quest's and made all the choices possible to my character. Or will it use my second play-through? Cause if its the later I better get cracking at playing the game again.
Also did anyone get the comic yet? Is it worth a pick up?
I'm reading through the second book and its pretty good and getting me hyped for the game.
Doesn't Ashley try to kill Wrex when he tries to kill YOU? In which case, charm maxed = 8)
No, she shoots him anyway cause she's a racist gunnut without talking - a Republican
Doesn't Ashley try to kill Wrex when he tries to kill YOU? In which case, charm maxed = 8)
No, she shoots him anyway cause she's a racist gunnut without talking - a Republican
She does? I have never even done that. I have max charm, always.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHLhvRXhlDE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHLhvRXhlDE
You can tell from the video how much she enjoys doing it... she's not a good person.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHLhvRXhlDE
Stone.
Cold.
That's my Ash.
You can tell from the video how much she enjoys doing it... she's not a good person.
I'm not seeing it.
If she smiled or smirked, I could see it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHLhvRXhlDE
Stone.
Cold.
That's my Ash.
I thought I knew you! >:(
no fucking way man, you just don't kill without me giving the order
on top of that, a woman? killing my alien beasts? NO WAY MAN
But she clearly says she'll do it before the confrontation even starts. You really think she does it because Wrex is an alien and not because he aims a gun at her commander? :lol It's not like Kaiden's gonna do shit because he's a total pussy.
Also, are there any non-whites who have played ME? Do you think this is another case of white people labeling anything where someone shows skepticism with another group of people as racism because it seems like it. :lol
All happy families are alike; each unhappy family is unhappy in its own way.
I find Ashley to be a very well written and deep character, though.
Almost every aspect of her character is like a coin and has two sides. She's obviously xenophobic, and yet she seems to work along with the other party members just fine and appears to have an interest in the cultures of other species. Even if she considers Wrex to be an invaluable party member, she'll shoot him in the back when he so much as raise his gun at her commander. Although she's tough on the outside, she has a girly interior without being written like insultingly generic standard Michelle Rodriguez character. Wrex and Garrus are treated in a similar way.
At first, she seems xenophobic, but the more you learn of her character you realize she's beyond that.
I think that's the sign of a well written character. And like I said on gaf, what I love about Wrex, Ashley and Garrus isn't so much their personalities (although that helps) but also the fact that they're completely flawed as people and don't try to be perfect and never claim to be perfect. This fits perfectly with the paragon/renegade theme.
Liara, Kaiden and to some degree Tali, don't really mesh nearly as well. They're too goody goody, naive, green.
Kaiden is a goody goody compared to the rest of the crew. I prefer a morally questionable crew than a crew of do gooders.
Kaiden is a goody goody compared to the rest of the crew. I prefer a morally questionable crew than a crew of do gooders.
:-\
I see ME's crew more like the Star Trek cast, not a bunch of space-fairing hell-raisers. That archetype has been played the fuck out.
Kaiden is a goody goody compared to the rest of the crew. I prefer a morally questionable crew than a crew of do gooders.
:-\
I see ME's crew more like the Star Trek cast, not a bunch of space-fairing hell-raisers. That archetype has been played the fuck out.
There's a difference between a group of space-fairing hellraisers and people who try to do good but in their own way, no matter the means.
I think you are misconstruing my comment. I'm saying they had their own quirks and how they think things should be done, not that they are self-serving.
Kaiden is not really a do-gooder. He once snapped during biotic training, killing his commander and making the Alliance shut down the whole biotic training program and sweep everything under the rug. Also, if you're a female character than you can eventually persuade him to become xenophobic. I'd say he's pretty flawed and human.
I think you are misconstruing my comment. I'm saying they had their own quirks and how they think things should be done, not that they are self-serving.
-shrug-
I just realized we've been talking about the intentions of video game characters for almost a page now. In a last-ditch effort to retain my sanity, I'm gonna stop.
I think you are misconstruing my comment. I'm saying they had their own quirks and how they think things should be done, not that they are self-serving.
-shrug-
I just realized we've been talking about the intentions of video game characters for almost a page now. In a last-ditch effort to retain my sanity, I'm gonna stop.
wat ?
Continue as this continues to make the game very interesting to me :lol
he just becomes pro-earth and anti-council. I kind of wish I didn't kill him on both of my playthroughs since it would be more interesting to see how he's changed than Ashley.Kaiden is not really a do-gooder. He once snapped during biotic training, killing his commander and making the Alliance shut down the whole biotic training program and sweep everything under the rug. Also, if you're a female character than you can eventually persuade him to become xenophobic. I'd say he's pretty flawed and human.
Really? Didn't know this.
What's xenophobic Kaiden like? :lol
as long as we're being honest here, leaving Ashley to die was one of the things I was looking forward to most during my replay
Yikes Shepard was being a dick in that vid.
First time I played ME1, I was all, "hey, romance option right off the bat! awesome!"
Then she opened her mouth on the Citadel with jokes about people drowning in the Presidium lake and how she can't tell aliens from animals and I just sorta quietly shuffled her off to the side until she got blown up.
Heck, if you want to talk about "strained race relations", took at Tali. Try talking to her about whether or not the quarians "deserved" to be overthrown by the geth, and whether the geth were just acting in self-defense. She can get pretty pissed off.
as long as we're being honest here, leaving Ashley to die was one of the things I was looking forward to most during my replay
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Finished up beating the first Mass Effect for the first time. I didn't have much left so it didn't take me very long. Very rarely do you see a game that has so much good stuff and occasionally great stuff in it undermined by so many weird or bad design calls or interface issues, or technical issues.
I'm not sure what to think. Part of me hopes it was just a bit rushed instead of just being bad decision making on Bioware's part. We'll see in the second one I guess in a week or so. At least I have a save ready for import now.
The game falls apart if you dare try any of the side missions. I went through a bout of finishing all of them in rapid succession and that completely ruined the game for me. So much so that I was literally 40 minutes from completing the game and I just couldn't stomach it anymore. It took me over two years to get back to it and finally finish it. :lol
Ost samples:
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I'm not liking some of the songs posted from the ost, so far. One thing about ME is that the soundtrack is really unique for games: the 70's synth pop, for instance, makes it instantly recognizable for me. The music I've sampled from ME2 sound more cinematic, theatrical and plain. It's a stark contrast form the music I enjoyed in the original.
The game falls apart if you dare try any of the side missions. I went through a bout of finishing all of them in rapid succession and that completely ruined the game for me. So much so that I was literally 40 minutes from completing the game and I just couldn't stomach it anymore. It took me over two years to get back to it and finally finish it. :lol
This is EXACTLY what happened to me and why I got around to finishing it only yesterday.
The sidequests in general outside of a few specific cases like the Bring Down the sky DLC and a couple others are terrible. And the repeating planet layout is terrible. Those are the kind of things that make me think the first game was rushed hopefully...
Their approach for ME2 sounds better. Fewer planets to explore but each is better and has an impact on the main game. No more driving around shitty terrain on a shitty buggy. And that's another thing: why were all the planets the same? with the exception of the occasional "lol this is lvl 3 hazard so you can't walk outside." Maybe it's too much to ask, but if different planets had different driving physics because of gravity or atmosphere that would have made the experience at least better. As it was, it was just a color swap.It would have been cool if you had to manually adjust the shields and anti-gravity and everything of the Mako depending on the conditions on the planet. Actually make it feel a little more dangerous/interesting.
Soundtrack sounds fine, just Himuro getting too wrapped up about a sequel.
Their approach for ME2 sounds better. Fewer planets to explore but each is better and has an impact on the main game. No more driving around shitty terrain on a shitty buggy. And that's another thing: why were all the planets the same? with the exception of the occasional "lol this is lvl 3 hazard so you can't walk outside." Maybe it's too much to ask, but if different planets had different driving physics because of gravity or atmosphere that would have made the experience at least better. As it was, it was just a color swap.It would have been cool if you had to manually adjust the shields and anti-gravity and everything of the Mako depending on the conditions on the planet. Actually make it feel a little more dangerous/interesting.
Illusive Man is my favorite song out of those songs.
The thing that bothers me most is...well, first off, I agree with Himuro that side missions on the citadel and other story planets (things like smuggling, etc) are mostly fine. But you have this entire galaxy to explore, right? you'd think that missions taking place in space stations and random planets would be awesome. You get to explore, see and interact with different space cultures, either advanced or primitive, engage if the type of things you see in space sci-fi series/movies. Instead, they manage to take something as vast as space itself and condense all the planets and space stations into four or five locations. The closest you really get to what you'd expect from exploring space is chasing after space monkeys. And that moon mission wasn't good, imo. The only nice part was that it was a somewhat unique location. The structure was basically the same as the others and there weren't any choices. Bringing Down the Sky was alright, but that was a DLC side mission. Even the character specific missions, like finding that doctor Garrus wanted to get was a total snore.
Their approach for ME2 sounds better. Fewer planets to explore but each is better and has an impact on the main game. No more driving around shitty terrain on a shitty buggy. And that's another thing: why were all the planets the same? with the exception of the occasional "lol this is lvl 3 hazard so you can't walk outside." Maybe it's too much to ask, but if different planets had different driving physics because of gravity or atmosphere that would have made the experience at least better. As it was, it was just a color swap.
and I agree that the game feels a lot more solid if you just stuck to the story missions and played it as a 15 hour game.
Illusive Man is my favorite song out of those songs.
That's a good one, but Tali's theme is the best.
(http://masseffect.bioware.com/resources/assets/media/screenshots/screenshot-092-p.jpg)
That vein shit (when you're dying) looks awful and so does the new hacking mini game. I'll probably not even bother opening treasure chests in this game.
The shooting looks fantastic though. Do we have a confirmation EA sent some manpower from one of their shooter teams to Bioware to help out?
That vein shit (when you're dying) looks awful and so does the new hacking mini game.
That vein shit (when you're dying) looks awful and so does the new hacking mini game.
As opposed to playing Simon says with button presses in the first...
People who enjoyed the Mako won't be disappointed. That's all I can say for now
Game of the forever...Mass Effect is still my favorite single-player experience this gen. The atmosphere and epic space odyssey feel was masterful in its execution
people just like to harp on the side quests planets on and on and on...shut the fuck up. There is no other game like Mass Effect...the epic atmosphere is unrivaled
Haha a black party member. I know who I'm sacrificing in this gamehe will probably die before that.
Haha a black party member. I know who I'm sacrificing in this gamehe will probably die before that.
Joining the likes of Dragon Age: Origins, The Sabotuer, The Sims 3 and other games, Mass Effect 2 will be the latest Electronic Arts-published game to bundle free downloadable content in new copies, the company announced today.
"Retail and digital versions" of BioWare's PC and Xbox 360 shooter-RPG come with a "single-use unlock code" to activate "The Cerberus Network," described as "a conduit for players to receive bonus content as well as daily messages and [Mass Effect 2] news."
Accessing "The Cerberus Network" on or after the game's January 26 release will grant players the first downloadable add-on, which includes "new missions and in-game items" and a new character named Zaees, described as "a rugged and deadly gun-for-hire who is recruited to join Commander Shepard's mission to save mankind."
More downloads packs coming post-launch will bring an "agile hover tank," more missions and addition items, including "Cerberus Assault Armor which boost shields, health and heavy weapon ammo and the M-22 Eviscerator Shotgun."
Those that buy Mass Effect 2 will be able to access "The Cerebus Network," and thus obtain the game's downloadable add-ons, for an as-yet-undisclosed price.
After launch, BioWare will release another DLC pack for Mass Effect 2 that introduces the Hammerhead, a new vehicle in the Mass Effect universe. This agile hover tank features improved handling on rough terrain and maneuvers deftly in combat -- a necessity for players traveling across harsh planetary environments throughout the galaxy. In addition to this new vehicle, BioWare will release new missions and unique in-game items, including Cerberus Assault Armor which boost shields, health and heavy weapon ammo and the M-22 Eviscerator Shotgun.
EDMONTON, Alberta - (Business Wire) BioWare™, a division of Electronic Arts Inc. (NASDAQ:ERTS), today revealed ‘The Cerberus Network’, an in-game portal in Mass Effect 2 that will keep fans engaged with the rich and dynamic Mass Effect universe through downloadable content (DLC) and news. ‘The Cerberus Network’ is activated exclusively by original purchasers of Mass Effect 2 through a single-use unlock code that comes included in retail and digital versions of the game worldwide. ‘The Cerberus Network’ is a conduit for players to receive bonus content as well as daily messages and news on upcoming releases for Mass Effect 2 for no extra charge. For players who do not buy the game new, ‘The Cerberus Network’ can be unlocked through a one-time, in-game purchase of a new activation code*.
So in order to get DLC(if you dont buy new) you have to buy a ticket for "The Cerberus Network" and then buy DLC ???
If you buy new, you get the Cerberus Network and the free DLC.
If you buy used, you pay to unlock the Cerberus Network and then get the free DLC.
If you buy new, you get the Cerberus Network and the free DLC.
If you buy used, you pay to unlock the Cerberus Network and then get the free DLC.
Bioware said that first one is free,but somehow i don't think that the rest will be...i mean how much can they charge for unlocking?Not much i think,but they can milk you with DLC forever
is it confirmed that the retail copy comes with a additional character, similar to dragon age?
is it confirmed that the retail copy comes with a additional character, similar to dragon age?
Time to crate = Zero
Yet again. Never fails!
so the DLC is 'a necessity for players traveling across harsh planetary environments throughout the galaxy'
Fucking horse armor is one thing; now they want us to pay for the HORSE?
Yeah, PAL version is out. Doesnt work on US though...Are you sure?Pirates claim that its region-free...
Yeah, PAL version is out. Doesnt work on US though...
a stream is up of the game being played but he/she making it so fucking boring :yuck
M-490 Blackstorm: The Blackstorm encases a few particles of matter within a high-powered mass-increasing field, elevating them to near-infinite mass and creating a powerful localized gravity well that draws nearby enemies and objects into itself. The rapidly-increasing gravity near the event horizon of the singularity rips the objects apart.fuck...i wonder if the codes are one-time use or like in the past sometimes they're universal. better be able to get that gun eventually
* Fires a singularity projectile that draws in nearby enemies, and then explosively hurls them away.
* Can be charged up to create larger more powerful singularities.
:lol Seriously I dont know what's happening
PC version leaked mwahahahahaa
I don't see the point in dling a (how big is this again?) 20 gig file if you're going to buy it anyways.
I don't see the point in dling a (how big is this again?) 20 gig file if you're going to buy it anyways.
> download 15GB
> beat in 2 days
> bioware hahahaha
> download 15GB
> beat in 2 days
> bioware hahahaha
Let's guess it based on BioWare tradition
KOTOR - you are the virran
Jade Empire - master is the virran
Mass Erect - the ship is the virran
Dragon Age - virrans everywhere
Mass Erect 2 - you are the virran again
There's no Tali romance.spoiler (click to show/hide)
Male Shepard:
Miranda :drool :drool :drool
Subject Zero
chick on the Normandy who's not in your squad
Female Shepard:
Garrus :yuck
Thane :yuck
Jacob :drool[close]
Maxy any confirmation of a Tali romance?
That trailer was incredible, I really shouldn't be buying games right now but DAY ONE.
If you don't use cover and just walk into enemies you are dead within few seconds.Fights can be long,there are tons of enemies attacking you this time.
If you don't use cover and just walk into enemies you are dead within few seconds.Fights can be long,there are tons of enemies attacking you this time.
Interesting. Thx.
If you don't use cover and just walk into enemies you are dead within few seconds.Fights can be long,there are tons of enemies attacking you this time.
Interesting. Thx.
Also since locations are huge,you will often fight enemies from two,three sides,sometimes even all four.
Zero pop-in,quick loading
Elevators are there,but you only chose desired deck,game goes into outside grid-like view,loading is quick.
Let's guess it based on BioWare tradition
KOTOR - you are the virran
Jade Empire - master is the virran
Mass Erect - the ship is the virran
Dragon Age - virrans everywhere
Mass Erect 2 - you are the virran again
That's lame that there isn't any lesbian sex this time around. This means no sex for my Shepard.
That's lame that there isn't any lesbian sex this time around. This means no sex for my Shepard.
DLC character announced. Space Commander Michael "Mike Hendo" Henderson.
"Henderson rose through the ranks in exactly the way we say people can in the recruitment ads, yet endeavour to prevent in practice. Henderson shows initiative; always a dangerous sign."
You can have a romance with him.spoiler (click to show/hide)a bear can dream, right, demi? dialogue options with the Glish ambassadors could be fun.[close]
That's lame that there isn't any lesbian sex this time around. This means no sex for my Shepard.
It was lame there wasn't any f*g sex the first time around. only fair that the sapphos have to share in our marginalization this time around
No Tali romance sucks, I know Bioware never specifically mentioned it but they did throw out some pretty big hints towards it being possible. Oh well at least there is Miranda :droolspoiler (click to show/hide)they let you romance Garrus but not Tali? how would a garrus romance even work? :yuck[close]
Do achievements in ME2 give you bonuses like ME?
Remember. Alien sex is danger sex.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y_nACag-Oc
Remember. Alien sex is danger sex.
Is that Nick Frost? How have I never heard of this show?
It was lame there wasn't any f*g sex the first time around. only fair that the sapphos have to share in our marginalization this time around
Yo Luc... you see he's making a new show - Money? There's a trailer here that has a couple clips of him with his ugly long hair.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9QvN8DOe2U
His hair wasnt bad in TBTR... tolerable, but the Money hair is just... what
Bring back BUTCH FROST
Remember. Alien sex is danger sex.
Is that Nick Frost? How have I never heard of this show?
Buy it you taco
Well I meant to whoever you were telling to. Your purchase is appreciated.
But you arent a real Frost Fucker unless you own the Australian Incoming Attack :smug
It was lame there wasn't any f*g sex the first time around. only fair that the sapphos have to share in our marginalization this time around
[youtube=560,345]lPMOlEfhWGE[/youtube]
Yo Luc... you see he's making a new show - Money? There's a trailer here that has a couple clips of him with his ugly long hair.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9QvN8DOe2U
if I, uh, "pre-play" ME2 this weekend, will the saves be compatible with the Steam version next Tuesday? :)
just saw a clip from a stream and yesssssssssspoiler (click to show/hide)tali romance confirmed:
http://www.justin.tv/clip/d1c971eca86838b0
http://www.justin.tv/clip/cfd6cea06dff6549[close]
just saw a clip from a stream and yesssssssssspoiler (click to show/hide)tali romance confirmed:
http://www.justin.tv/clip/d1c971eca86838b0
http://www.justin.tv/clip/cfd6cea06dff6549[close]
I just read like the worst spoiler ever and I hope it's not real.
I just read like the worst spoiler ever and I hope it's not real.
what does it say?
put in spoiler tags
Well,spoiler (click to show/hide)-Shepard is a geth
-Tali has some spare parts, if you know what I mean
-Legion becomes your homeboy[close]
The last one isn't such a big deal, but the first one would really annoy me.
THANKS to the asshole that IMed me these spoilers.
ALSO (About Tali):spoiler (click to show/hide)You can totally get her to polish your rod in ME2, apparently.[close]
spoiler (click to show/hide)just saw it. it does happen, but you can't see her face due to the camera angles.
not sure if shepard being a geth makes sense, if that spoiler is true or not. legion explains that "geth" are programs, not the robot bodies that contain them. they share information between themselves. shepard might be cybernetic, but he's not a true "geth" in any sense.[close]
it just happened in a stream, no recording.
spoiler (click to show/hide)Does she have spare parts or not?[close]
spoiler (click to show/hide)Does she have spare parts or not?[close]spoiler (click to show/hide)nope. well, at least that it shows you.[close]
Wow, minefield in here.
I sent the video. It doesn't really show anything.
PFFFFFFFFFFT ONE OF THE TWISTSspoiler (click to show/hide)they're collecting humans to make... A GIANT HUMAN-SHAPED REAPER THAT LOOKS LIKE A TERMINATOR[close]
youtube vid got taken down, BUT
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/launch-trailer-mass-effect/61043
This game is so awesome. I'm about an hour and a half into it and it seems to be way better than the first one interface-wise.
Someone said something about grabbing ME2 off of an FTP or Usenet or some shit, how do I do that? My torrent's down speed is going fucking crazy.
Someone said something about grabbing ME2 off of an FTP or Usenet or some shit, how do I do that? My torrent's down speed is going fucking crazy.
Just download the nzb file of the game. Got to nzbmatrix or merlinsportal to grab the nzb. But you'll also need to have an usenet provider.
I downloaded the PC version yesterday, just for fun. But it looks like shit on my PC. It took me less than two hours to download 15GB.
usenet isnt free
DA on the PC is fine. The console versions are outsourced hand me downs.
no 360 or a good PC :'(
one day i guess, one day
no 360 or a good PC :'(
one day i guess, one day
how bad is your pc? ME2 minimum requires are lower than dragon age.
Ugh. Minimum requirement PC gaming :yuck
I thought Bioware said ps3 could get Mass Effect 2?
Thankfully I have a gaming pc.
netflix rents out games now?
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/106/1063107p1.html
"Players will start with Disc 1 for the introduction and early level choices, then go through a funnel level of sorts, where they will need to switch to Disc 2," Houston said. "From there they will play the middle portion of the game, which is mostly on Disc 2. Then after another funnel point in the story they'll go back to Disc 1."
"The decision was made due to the nature of having to go to two discs for what is a non-linear game and fitting the right amount of content onto each of the discs," he added. "This way players won't have to swap their discs multiple times during the middle of the game."
WHAT FAGGOTRY IS THIS
hey look what just showed up on isohunt.com
hey look what just showed up on isohunt.com
The game has been out for days. Way to be late to the party. ::)
What torrent program are you even using? Hopefully utorrent?
Yeah, your tracker is fucked. I'm getting around 300 down and I lock my upload at 100. Been downloading overnight and i have around 3 hours left.
Yeah, your tracker is fucked. I'm getting around 300 down and I lock my upload at 100. Been downloading overnight and i have around 3 hours left.
Wow. Fucking demonoid. She used to be beautiful, man.
Hey I have a question for anybody who has beaten ME2 or at least gotten pretty far. Answer it with yes/no plz.spoiler (click to show/hide)Do you ever see Liara again? I mean, after that opening sequence, unless that was relative to my ME1 save.[close]
Yea but then she was infiltrated by the MPAA and people bailed.
Come on guys... stop using torrents seriously. Yall need to get with the program, there are much better options out there
:lol even IGN is supporting this free content
Update folks. Don't even bother. Unless you download them through the Cerebus Network interface it appears that your wasting harddrive space. They must have a lockout requirement.:(
So, I just found out you can't explore planets like in ME1. That's so disappointing. I really loved that in ME.
For those that have beat it, how was the veteran difficulty? I'm thinking about doing that on my first play through.
They fixed it now. You snooze you lose, sorry!
Is there any advantage to importing a level 60 character instead of a level 50?
Importing a Level 60 character will have your character start off at Level 5 in Mass Effect 2, plus:
• Renegade or Paragon starting at 10% (If you have 100% Renegade or Paragon in ME1)
• Credits: 150,000
• Palladium: 10,000
• Iridium: 10,000
• Platinum: 10,000
• Element Zero: 10,000
Importing a Level 50 character will have your character start off at Level 3, plus:
• Credits: 100,000
• Palladium: 9,000
• Iridium: 9,000
• Platinum: 9,000
• Element Zero: 9,000
and shootouts are no longer tense or exciting:lol
I'm gonna attempt a Mass Effect 1 speed run so I can have save file...not sure if a speed run is possible tho
Just download a save that suits your needs.
I'm gonna attempt a Mass Effect 1 speed run so I can have save file...not sure if a speed run is possible tho
Just download a save that suits your needs.
I'm gonna attempt a Mass Effect 1 speed run so I can have save file...not sure if a speed run is possible tho
Just download a save that suits your needs.
not only what demi said but also the character won't look the way i want and will have a diff name
I'm gonna attempt a Mass Effect 1 speed run so I can have save file...not sure if a speed run is possible tho
Just download a save that suits your needs.
not only what demi said but also the character won't look the way i want and will have a diff name
If you import a character you can change pretty much everything about him,looks,class,etc
The only thing you can't change are your decisions in ME1.
I'm gonna attempt a Mass Effect 1 speed run so I can have save file...not sure if a speed run is possible tho
and shootouts are no longer tense or exciting:lol
Dude c'mon. The combat was god awful in the first game and deathly easy. Not saying you aren't entitled to your opinion on the rest of the game. But even if you don't like the combat in this game, in no way is it suddenly a decline from some "great action" in the first title.
The state of the art in grand-scale, two-disc space operas, Mass Effect 2 picks up two years after the end of the first installment of its galactic-noir story line. With beefier combat added to the role-playing, it's the Avatar of video games — except it's better written.
Just grabbed the OST. Much better than the original. The original sounded like a Blade Runner/Tron ripoff. This one is much better.
Sure, ME1's combat was easy, but at least it wasn't the same run-for-cover shit every fucking game utilizes nowadays.
All I did was stand in place in the original and spam the fire button. The cover stuff almost completely unnecessary which was lame. And I used those regen health upgrades in the armor in the original so for my party honestly not that much is different going forward to the second one.
Not to mention the wretched frame rate on the 360 that made combat a pain. (I recognize that specific thing wasn't an issue if the game was played on a PC)
Just grabbed the OST. Much better than the original. The original sounded like a Blade Runner/Tron ripoff. This one is much better.
God, why does everyone here slam ME1 so much? I don't know what drugs I was one while playing it, but I fucking loved the soundtrack to the first game because it reminded me of BR/Tron.
Just grabbed the OST. Much better than the original. The original sounded like a Blade Runner/Tron ripoff. This one is much better.
God, why does everyone here slam ME1 so much? I don't know what drugs I was one while playing it, but I fucking loved the soundtrack to the first game because it reminded me of BR/Tron.
Aging human mercenary Zaeed, meant to join Commander Shepard's crew in Mass Effect 2 via downloadable content, is having a little trouble making it to the Normandy.
Zaeed shows up as downloadable content in the Mass Effect 2 menu on the Xbox 360, but when you try to download the grizzled warrior, he isn't available. According to a forum post on the BioWare Social Network titled "Zaeed - unavailable for X360 until Wednesday/Thursday." it'll be another day or two before he makes his debut.
"Sorry all, we've had some delays with Zaeed. Your Cerberus account should still be able to access Normandy crash."
So, does downloading those links demi posted a while back work for anyone? I managed to grab the Collector's Edition pack but the game itself doesn't recognize it.
The DLC should be there regardless in-game. You dont have to go through Cerberus Network.
Awesome, thank you very much.Man, load times are pretty terribad. There's not much load time during the level, as they're usually seamless, but between levels and the like have load times that are about thirty seconds long at the shortest. Meeeeh.
Did you try installing it to the hard drive?
for all the fem sheps out there, i guessspoiler (click to show/hide)(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa230/Ciupy7/HOLYSHITJACOB.jpg)[close]
The DLC should be there regardless in-game. You dont have to go through Cerberus Network.
Awesome, thank you very much.Man, load times are pretty terribad. There's not much load time during the level, as they're usually seamless, but between levels and the like have load times that are about thirty seconds long at the shortest. Meeeeh.
Did you try installing it to the hard drive?
Iv'e heard that it reduces it a decent amount if you do install, but does he have space?
Dragon Age was shit, no question
So how do you gain loyalty of a character? Are there specific side quests you have to do?Talk to the characters,it will open sidequests that will unlock specific powers for characters.
1) The story
Mass Effect 2 assumes a lot of familiarity with the original Mass Effect. There are regular callbacks to the events and characters of that game. This is certainly a plus for fans of the first game. But as someone who wasn't a fan of the first game, I was constantly lost about the specifics, and I had no desire to go digging around in the codex. And I certainly didn't get a lot of narrative out of shootering my way to the end of a space dungeon. What was left over was a straightforward yarn about saving the galaxy from bug-like aliens doing insidious things. At least it had a cool finale.
10) Coming out so soon after Dragon Age
Dragon Age is a tough act for any game to follow. Especially a story-heavy RPG from the same developer. Dragon Age and Mass Effect 2 are very different approaches to the same genre, but when one of them is so richly detailed and shrewdly written, the shortcomings of the other are that much more conspicuous.
9) It's mostly a shooter
The core gameplay in Mass Effect 2 is a cover-based shooter, built around a narrow set of resistance/attack types. There are also exploding barrels. Oh, and ammo is called "thermal clips" for some reason. Bioware occasionally tries to vary the action by adding gimmicks, generally involving a timer bar or limitations on where you can stand. It's decent enough, I suppose. There's nothing inherently wrong with a cover-based shooter. But when you make the core gameplay so simple, it has a ripple effect through the rest of the game world. Everything in Mass Effect 2 has to be related to an anemic shooter.
8) Character development
The stripped down shootering hurts the game most in terms of character development. Obviously a lot of thought went into backstories for the characters. But each character's gameplay is determined by a couple of skills and a couple of gun types. And that's it. I didn't care much who tagged along with me for a mission, because a stripped-down shooter leads to stripped down characters.
7) Space dungeons
Bioware assembles worlds from sparsely populated boxes connected by lots of codex text. In the fantasy world of Dragon Age, this works well enough. String together dungeons to represent villages, castles, patches of countryside, and, of course, dungeons. Fair enough. But a space opera is another matter entirely. When you're trying to build a galaxy of different worlds and ships and space stations, teeming with alien life, this basic model is really long in the tooth. I knew that every single quest in Mass Effect 2 - every single one! - was going to involve me shootering my way to the far end a linear space dungeon.
6) Non-interactive environments
To the credit of Bioware's artists, there's a lot of detail in the space dungeons. But it's almost entirely non-interactive. You get a few conspicuously placed hackable points among environments full of containers, doors, and control panels that do absolutely nothing.
5) Minigames
I've done the classes in Bully, the conversations in Oblivion, the guitar solos in Brutal Legend, the dancing in Sid Meier's Pirates, the Pipe Dream hacks in BioShock, and every minigame in every single Ratchet & Clank game. I have never seen minigames as sorely out of place as the three minigames in Mass Effect 2. The two types of hacking are bad enough, but then you get to the planetary scanning. Ye gods, what tedium! I hoped I would be delivered when I finally bought tech to speed up the cursor speed for scanning. No such luck. Slightly sped up tedium is still tedium.
4) Loot
Tedious minigames are the key to the economy in Mass Effect 2. You need to scan planets to earn minerals. You need the minerals to buy the weapons and tech upgrades you've found or purchased with good old fashioned space bucks. But all this loot chasing is funneled into nothing more than a list of minor global bonuses. There are also bits of armor that I kept forgetting to retire to my quarters to equip. So much for that +10% to an intimidation value that I never got to see anyway. The loot chase is an important part of an RPG. In Mass Effect 2, it is an afterthought locked behind tedium.
3) Tech upgrades
The tech upgrades have a system of prerequisites that might mean you don't get your nifty new weapon until you've bought some sort of ammo upgrade that you may never find and have no way of knowing how to get. Many of the upgrades are things like a damage boost for assault rifles, but only when they're shooting at armor. This sort of minutiae is fine for people playing a harshly competitive shooter like Modern Warfare 2. In an AI shooting gallery, I'm not sure I care enough to climb this particular tech tree.
2) Space travel
Next time I'm at the helm of a massive space ship, I hope the interface for flying isn't a matter of scooching a teensy ship model around a picture of a nebula so the view scrolls over and I can see where I'm going. I don't know what Bioware was going for here, but every time Shepherd stepped up to that map display to zip around his toy ship, I pictured him making spaceship noises with his mouth. Pretty much what you'd expect from a guy who collects toys, Shenmue style, for his captain's quarters. Worst. Starship interface. Ever.
1) The story
Mass Effect 2 assumes a lot of familiarity with the original Mass Effect. There are regular callbacks to the events and characters of that game. This is certainly a plus for fans of the first game. But as someone who wasn't a fan of the first game, I was constantly lost about the specifics, and I had no desire to go digging around in the codex. And I certainly didn't get a lot of narrative out of shootering my way to the end of a space dungeon. What was left over was a straightforward yarn about saving the galaxy from bug-like aliens doing insidious things. At least it had a cool finale.
I kind of wish I stayed with my soldier class.
i like how you can endorse every shop in the citadel as your favorite and get a discount from each
Also, the advertisement for all-Elcor rendition of Hamlet.
Conrad Verner is the best. :lolDoes he become like a spectre or a hobo?
Also, the advertisement for all-Elcor rendition of Hamlet.
That was fucking hilarious. Especially since it was a reference to the first game. The Elcor are awesome.
There is a lot of little side conversations with NPC characters that is good stuff.
Can you get all your old party members back from ME1, or do they just have cameo roles this time around?
Can you get all your old party members back from ME1, or do they just have cameo roles this time around?spoiler (click to show/hide)You can only get Garrus and Tali as party members. Wrex is available if you didn't kill him, Liara is hunting the shadow broker and Kaiden or Ashley show up to be assholes and basically call you a traitor. My guess is that old Party members will replace ME2 party members you might have lost when ME3 hits next year (apparently).
Garrus and Tali are the only ones really worth having around, outside of Wrex.[close]
So basically:-\spoiler (click to show/hide)the big decision you had to make in the original Mass Effect regarding Ashley and Kaidan means absolutely nothing?[close]
Yeah, I letspoiler (click to show/hide)Kaidan die and kept Ashley since he was always kind of useless in my party.[close]
Thinking about getting the first one to play through but I'm kind of hesitant since people keep saying it's a shooter, not an RPG. :/
Okay, so I need AI hacking, Stasis and Neural Shock for my three remaining skill achievements. Is there any way to get all three of those on one character? I have a bonus skill, so if I go with an engineer and throw Barrier on him, will I be able to level Barrier up and get Stasis?
No lesbo sex
Okay, so I need AI hacking, Stasis and Neural Shock for my three remaining skill achievements. Is there any way to get all three of those on one character? I have a bonus skill, so if I go with an engineer and throw Barrier on him, will I be able to level Barrier up and get Stasis?
You should yes
How hard does the game get? I'm mulling over switching to Insanity from Veteran since the first mission in the game has been so ridiculously easy. I had the same problem in the original Mass Effect where I found the hardest difficulty in my first run (Veteran, I believe) still didn't offer much of a challenge.
Anybody with an copy of Mass Effect 2 can now download the free DLC pack featuring Zaeed from the Cereberus Network.
The DLC, known as “The Price of Revenge”, was delayed last night due to reasons unknown.
But it’s out there now, and it’s available.
It’s out on Friday for 360 and PC in the UK. It released yesterday in the US.
also: Tali is strangely attractive.
A lot of people actually were upset when she wasn't a character you could have relations with in ME1.
:hyper
They are all there,keep looking.Also,have a drink.
They are all there,keep looking.Also,have a drink.
I already did. A mystery drink!
I just added Grunt to my crew:spoiler (click to show/hide)That little beat was crazy tense. I was worried I would lose him. Didn't know if I should show sternness or be nice. I missed the Renegade interrupt but choose the mean option when right after. Shot him in the gut then face. Luckily he saw that as strength and joined up.[close]
So far I really want to make Garrus and Tali my permanent crew members. They're my favorite characters.
Sentinel really is the best class ever. Once you get Throw at a high level, you can just start casting those off one after another.Just passed Ilium, probably gonna go to the Krogan planet now. I have a strong feeling I know exactly who I'm running into there ::)spoiler (click to show/hide)Only if you loaded a save that haves him alive. Otherwise everyone hates the shit out of you except Wrex's brother who sees his death as an opportunity to unite the Krogan and survive.[close]
Sentinel really is the best class ever. Once you get Throw at a high level, you can just start casting those off one after another.Just passed Ilium, probably gonna go to the Krogan planet now. I have a strong feeling I know exactly who I'm running into there ::)spoiler (click to show/hide)Only if you loaded a save that haves him alive. Otherwise everyone hates the shit out of you except Wrex's brother who sees his death as an opportunity to unite the Krogan and survive.[close]
Oh I saved him, I loved the character, I just hate how hammy BioWare has to be with cameos.spoiler (click to show/hide)Like Garrus being the Archangel. What in the flying fuck? In the first game he was kind of a nerd, not this badass killer with a deep gravelly voice and fuming inner conflict. He had problems, but he was a mature character, not this distinguished mentally-challenged caricature. Fail.[close]spoiler (click to show/hide)Where else would Wrex be after the last game? He wanted to help his people and since the Krogan factory was gone (and wasn't really a cure), he had to save his people another way: by uniting them under the Urdnot banner.
Additionally, Garrus was always a really solid sniper. If I remember correctly he killed a dude the first time you meet him with a perfect headshot. He was also a big believer in justice, which again made it fairly plausible that he would spend his time going after the ruthless Mercenary squads on Omega.
He's more extreme in ME2 and after hearing what happened to him (which leads into his loyalty mission), it makes sense.[close]
Miranda is ugly and she sounds like a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow and she has rabbit teeth. Who here said she was hot? Loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooosers
not really liking this anywhere near as much as i liked the first one.
I really don't understand how people think this is an improvement. The only real improvement is the shooting mechanic, and I wouldn't even say that makes combat better because of the inclusion of ammo. It may be because I'm an adept, but my current pistol only has 20 shots and I'm always running out of ammo (had to change from Insanity to Normal). The lack of items makes almost all the dialogue encounters insignificant. Normally when I come across a group of thieves or looters I will kill them instead of letting them go as this results in items and cash, but since enemies don't drop items or cash in this game it's stupid to get in a confrontation as all they will drop is an ammo clip (probably not enough to cover the ammo you used to kill them). Also, the planet scanning mechanism is one of the worst designs I have seen in recent memory, I upgraded it and it is still slow as shit, just really tedious. There also seems to be way less dialogue options with your crew mates, it's like they all suddenly took a vow of silence. No option to toggle helmet off and on during dialogue, seems like a stupid oversight as the first game had it. The game just seems like a step back in every way. It's a shooter with rpg elements like DMC and NG are action games with rpg elements, which is fine, I'm just tired of shooters. It looks nice and the cut-scenes are better produced but that only goes so far.not really liking this anywhere near as much as i liked the first one.
How could you not like ME2 better than the first game? I don't get this.
Also I'm never sure why people go to the "I don't understand how people can like or dislike something argument". It's easier to just explain why you like or don't like something on either side and then people will agree or disagree with those reasons. Plenty of games that people hate that I love and vice versa.i was just retorting, but just so we are clear, my opinion in whatever medium I decide to give it in is the definitive one.
There are definitely changes between this game and the first so I see how somebody could like some of the stuff in the first game or aspects of it. My personal take is that this one is much closer in spirit to what the original probably should have been. Streamline the RPG stuff. Tighten up the core mechanic stuff. Which they've done. This is essentially the Himuro argument earlier in the thread. If you wanted Mass Effect 2 to be "more RPG" than the first than it isn't. And that on a personal level is a legit individual complaint. This isn't Dragon Age or Baldur's Gate 3 Space Edition.
From my perspective that isn't what I wanted in most regards. I wanted a more focused and better mechanic game with a more clear design based on those priorities. And that is a lot of what I've gotten so I'm extremely happy so far playing through. It's, its own vision of an action RPG. I have some issues but then I always have some issues with any game which I'll spell out once I've beaten it.
But everybody is entitled to their opinion.
everyone is in fact not entitled to their opinion. because of this mindset, we have the nintendo wii.
what you mean to say is, everyone is entitled to be wrong.
I really don't understand how people think this is an improvement. The only real improvement is the shooting mechanic, and I wouldn't even say that makes combat better because of the inclusion of ammo. It may be because I'm an adept, but my current pistol only has 20 shots and I'm always running out of ammo (had to change from Insanity to Normal). The lack of items makes almost all the dialogue encounters insignificant. Normally when I come across a group of thieves or looters I will kill them instead of letting them go as this results in items and cash, but since enemies don't drop items or cash in this game it's stupid to get in a confrontation as all they will drop is an ammo clip (probably not enough to cover the ammo you used to kill them). Also, the planet scanning mechanism is one of the worst designs I have seen in recent memory, I upgraded it and it is still slow as shit, just really tedious. There also seems to be way less dialogue options with your crew mates, it's like they all suddenly took a vow of silence. No option to toggle helmet off and on during dialogue, seems like a stupid oversight as the first game had it. The game just seems like a step back in every way. It's a shooter with rpg elements like DMC and NG are action games with rpg elements, which is fine, I'm just tired of shooters. It looks nice and the cut-scenes are better produced but that only goes so far.not really liking this anywhere near as much as i liked the first one.
How could you not like ME2 better than the first game? I don't get this.
God damn they swarm you with a ton of enemies. Is this just an Insane thing? At least Garrus got some health back when I killed the Krogan.
The singularity gun is pretty shit... you only get one bullet? And it has a freakin charge factor. Yeah that helps on Insane.
So if you import a level 60 character, are you basically just tearing shit up, or do the enemies scale in level to match you?
Do you miss out on that much if you don't have a save to import? I played through the first game, so I know the story. I'm trying to decide if I want to do another Mass Effect playthrough or not.
The GameStop in the Citadel. :lol
:bow BioWare :bow2spoiler (click to show/hide)The clerk also talked about Hanar-Asari porn games that you could buy in Shin Akiba. :yuck[close]
Jeez when they said it was like Call of Duty they werent kidding. Nothing but wave after wave of enemies, even in a derelict hallway. I wish I could tell the AI to fuck off and let me do everything myself. I hate babysitting these distinguished mentally-challenged fellows.
guuuuuuhhhhhhhhhh. Wrestling with that "Buy" button
Do it.
Finally got Mordin, now I can start mining and buying upgrades and shit. I'm thinking I need a lot of these to make Insane more comfortable.Yes,yes there are tons of those,some of them only appear if you talk to your crew and do quests for them,some are unlocked if you buy stuff in shops.Also revisit shops,new stuff will be available as you progress.
The problem is the AI acts like its on Casual difficulty and acts distinguished mentally-challenged. SPAM SPAM SPAM those fucking skills
No I WANT them to spam, they dont.
Playing through Mass Effect 1 right now and there is no way you can convince me that ME2 isn't the better game.
How the fuck are you supposed to do that mission where you have to protect the crates from the giant mechs? Really?
Jesus these quests suck.
How the fuck are you supposed to do that mission where you have to protect the crates from the giant mechs? Really?
Zaeed is so glitchy, he keeps skywalking above cover :lol
I wont be using this guy again...
Zaeed is so glitchy, he keeps skywalking above cover :lol
I wont be using this guy again...
Shepard is actually tolerable, he doesnt care this time. More variety, more life. Some of the stuff he says takes you by surprise since last time he was like a piece of cardboard.
Btw, spoiler regarding Samaraspoiler (click to show/hide)What did you guys do with Samara/Morinth? I let Samara die because she was boring, and Morinth is awesome.[close]
God damn the Horizon level was BRUTAL, that last bit. I actually GLITCHED the environment, I tried to get on a wall, but it boosted me on top of some crates and I couldnt get down. Luckily the enemies couldnt touch me and were glitched themselves (would do the same movements back and forth) so I was tossing fireballs. I got down somehow eventually.I am on that level right now,final fight....oh shit
The "boss" was just as distinguished mentally-challenged, I love how you can just circle around a crate and it will not do a single thing to you. Glad that's over, at least.
Also, the Particle Cannon is BEAST, holy shit
Don't you use the DLC heavy weapon that creates a black hole and uses mass effect? Now that's a heavy weapon.
I still have to use the mini nuclear heavy weapon.
^^ About that:spoiler (click to show/hide)If you recruit Morinth you can sex her up but after you finish, she'll kill you and the game will end FOR GOOD[close]
I also saw people talking aboutspoiler (click to show/hide)Getting Morchin instead of Samara? wtf? Are there any other "multiple slot" characters?[close]
"I'll swallow your soul!"/
Just started playing and cleared mission 1. I really don't know why they added this crazy artificial thing called missions. Lame ass and only takes you out of the universe.
I thought the pacing and missions were handled ten times better than it was in the original. Mass Effect 2 felt like an episodic television series.
One of the things I really like about this game, that ME1 didn't do, is that you actually get to SEE all these places you hear about in conversations and codexs.spoiler (click to show/hide)The Quarian Flotilla, Krogan homeworld, seedy mercenary cities, and so on.[close]
It really adds a level of immersion that the first game lacked.
BIOWARE’S MASS EFFECT 2 HAILED AS 1st BLOCKBUSTER OF 2010
Game Earns Rave Reviews, Sells 2Million Units in Week One
Guildford, UK (January 29, 2010) – Forty perfect scores. Two million units. One pop culture phenomenon. BioWare™, a division of Electronic Arts Inc. (NASDAQ: ERTS), announced today that Mass Effect™ 2 has sold-in over two million units worldwide in its first week of release*. Lauded for its intense shooter gameplay and deep, hand-crafted story, Mass Effect 2 has earned an average review score of 96** — making it the second highest rated game of all time on the Xbox 360 platform***. Mass Effect 2 has earned 40 perfect scores, amassed over 30 editor’s choice awards and is donning the front cover of 20 magazines worldwide. On launch day, the term “Mass Effect” was in the top 10 trending topics on Twitter and most searched on Google News. MSNBC.com said, “Mass Effect will go down as one of the most influential video game series of all-time.”
Dr. Ray Muzyka, co-founder, BioWare and Group General Manager of the RPG/MMO Group of EA said, “Mass Effect 2 is poised to be one of the biggest games of 2010. We could not be more proud of the game’s universal acclaim and early commercial success.”
Mass Effect 2 launched this week hot on the heels of BioWare’s Dragon Age: Origins, the studio’s dark fantasy RPG which shipped in fall 2009. Dragon Age: Origins has earned an average review score of 91****, making it the highest rated original intellectual property from EA in the last year. Mass Effect 2 follows in BioWare’s tradition of delivering excellence on every front: gameplay, story, character development and visuals. Mass Effect 2 is an epic shooter/RPG set in a vast universe filled with dangerous alien life and mysterious, uncharted planets. In Mass Effect 2, players step into the role of the heroic Commander Shepard, leading a crew of some of the most dangerous operatives from across the galaxy on a mission so challenging that it’s potentially suicidal. Featuring intense action, a rich storyline, space exploration and engaging character interaction, Mass Effect 2 delivers an unparalleled gaming experience.
Mass Effect 2 is available for the Xbox 360 and the PC and is 15 by the BBFC. For more information, follow the development team on Twitter at http://twitter.com/masseffect2 or visit the game’s official UK website at http://getmasseffect.ea.com.
One of the things I really like about this game, that ME1 didn't do, is that you actually get to SEE all these places you hear about in conversations and codexs.spoiler (click to show/hide)The Quarian Flotilla, Krogan homeworld, seedy mercenary cities, and so on.[close]
It really adds a level of immersion that the first game lacked.
The best immersion thing they did was simply make places look different. Everytime you go to some new place it looks different than some other place. That alone adds a shit load of immersion where you feel like you are traveling through the universe. The first game failed their big time because not only was the layout the same, their just wasn't much variety to the look of things.
And just as I suspected I don't miss tooling around in that Mako.
It makes it feel even more like Star Trek because it just feels like you are beaming down to all these exotic places.
Huh? I thought it was a pretty competent shooter this time around. I mean, it's no Gears, but it's pretty engaging.
I'd rather have characters with two powers I love to us than eight powers I never fucking touch
I traded in Dragon Age towards the purchase of Mass Effect 2. DID I MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICE?
I sort of like DA: Origins but I dunno if I'll touch it after ME2. It's a much better game all around.
I sort of like DA: Origins but I dunno if I'll touch it after ME2. It's a much better game all around.
PC version?
Yeah
Please continue pirating their product. BioWare needs further convincing to drop their PC support so they can focus on producing superior console RPGs.
I'm so close to having my moment with Tali!!! <3333333333
Jeez you guys are blazing. I only just did Horizon and I still feel like I have a ton to do
So the combat really is improved? Is the PC version out now too?
Dark Horse has let us know that the digital version of its comic, Mass Effect: Redemption, will be free for download via iTunes on February 3. That's the same day issue two hits newsstands, so Dark Horse suggests reading issue one on your iPhone while your buddy drives you to a comic shop to buy issue number two. Of course.
The issue will normally run you $0.99, so it's not like Dark Horse is giving away gold here. Still, free is free, and free is for me. And you. Presumably. If you download this. Which you should, because why not?
I beat it. Collector Particle Beam is GOD TIERYou didn't escape...hmm...i think that something even harder is awaiting you...if i remember correctly
I picked the Sniper Rifle too. I didnt know it was a one choice decision. GameFAQs says its pretty beast too, and I like sniping.
edit: Ok I havent escaped yet but I imagine that was the hard part
I'm going to replay and try to save the whole crew, or at least sacrifice the token black guy (sorry Himuro).
wtf dude this game is out for a week and youre spoilering the end? wtf
Ok apparently I didnt need 100%. I retrained my points and picked the one that gave me more Paragon bonus, then went back and it let me patch things up.You said that she was ugly,why do you care about that bitch?
I beat it. Collector Particle Beam is GOD TIER
I picked the Sniper Rifle too. I didnt know it was a one choice decision. GameFAQs says its pretty beast too, and I like sniping.
edit: Ok I havent escaped yet but I imagine that was the hard part
Collector Particle Beam is lameWhat?You are lame :P
Collector beam is pretty powerful. Arguably one of the most useful of the heavy weapons since it just requires a steady stream and you get lots of bang for buck with your ammo.
I like the Cain simply because I feel like a bad ass when I use it. I was up against a boss one time and all his minions and when I set it off I obliterated everyone and completed the mission in one move.
I dont even have this Cain yet. It eats enemies up like black nigra cock in a vagoo.
oh, and all the preorder armor stuff sucks since you can't remove the helmet.Are you serious? Dead Space'd
Yes you can still get Dr Pepper items.
lmao, fistful I want you to know
end-game spoilersspoiler (click to show/hide)I let Tali fucking DIE in the final mission. Cunt wasn't happy I sold her father upriver to save her armored ass, so fuck her. Everyone else lived. Overall solid game, end credits song was shit. Soundtrack in general was shit. Rest of the game was pretty tight. Amazing final mission. Last boss omg. 9/10[close]
EDIT: fistful you leave the film grain on? wtf is wrong with you
lmao, fistful I want you to know
end-game spoilersspoiler (click to show/hide)I let Tali fucking DIE in the final mission. Cunt wasn't happy I sold her father upriver to save her armored ass, so fuck her. Everyone else lived. Overall solid game, end credits song was shit. Soundtrack in general was shit. Rest of the game was pretty tight. Amazing final mission. Last boss omg. 9/10[close]
EDIT: fistful you leave the film grain on? wtf is wrong with you
Only posers and Wiitards disable the film grain.
come on, normal / veteran / hardcore...what should i start this jawn on? i want my initial experience to be glorious
i'm on the diff select screen now
Only posers and Wiitards disable the film grain.
thanks
I won't bother listening to this, but the soundtrack to Mass Effect 2 was pretty good. I don't know what Raban is on about, but his opinion is usually all over the place.
Yeah, let's keep it confined to one of the two Mass Effect 2 threads already in existence.
I will agree the end credits song to Mass Effect was simply the bee's knees, but just because the sequel has an orchestra behind the score doesn't make it generic or worse. There were a lot of solid tracks and clever segues (like how the the game transitioned from the original's synth track to the orchestrated one). I thought it was pretty good.
So... engame spoiler:spoiler (click to show/hide)I guess Tali died at the end. I let her cover our rear while Jacob, Grunt and I took on the Reaper dude. Kinda pissed. Importing Shepard into a new game so I can do it all again.[close]
actually. fuck this. i'm gonna do it again and i'm not letting it happen.
chiptunes > MIDI > 70s synths > "real instruments"
I thought all of them were pretty good. Well, Jacob's was a little lame.
Some of the loyalty missions are good. Some of them are okay. And some of them are meh. But Holy shit. Some of them are like wow.spoiler (click to show/hide)Just finished the Tali loyalty mission. That might be the best videogame acting I've ever seen and it rivaled real acting. One of the few times that has ever happened in a videogame for me. I was on the edge of my seat during the final verdict on just the emotional impact. I literally had no idea what was going to happen.[close]
I thought all of them were pretty good. Well, Jacob's was a little lame.
spoiler (click to show/hide)Just got Legion. This game is so dope.[close]
Yea. You could just play it on low difficulty for the story and not have difficulty.
Yea. You could just play it on low difficulty for the story and not have difficulty.
Do you miss out on some achievements if you keep it at low difficulty?
Dude, Mordin is awesome.
How would you guys rate the difficulty of this game for someone who's not used to (not good at) shooters? All this talk is making me interested, I might get the first one's platinum hits version, but I dunno if I should get it or not...don't wanna buy something I'm going to quit after a couple of hours. :-\
Wow the story is kind of weird in the sense that it seems like ME1 never happened. You know you saved the universe, but people in the citadel sure don't treat you like a fucking hero. Makes no sense.
Wow the story is kind of weird in the sense that it seems like ME1 never happened. You know you saved the universe, but people in the citadel sure don't treat you like a fucking hero. Makes no sense.
Consider that everyone thought Shepard was dead for 2 years and he finally shows up working for, what people consider, a terrorist organization. They do treat you like a hero if you talk to people. The paragon discount at stores is entirely about giving your endorsement, and if you walk around on Omega, you hear about how there is a Shepard memorial that's a popular tourist location.
Still you'd think people would act more fucking suprised seeing you walking around alive etc.
yeah, but not in battleWrong again :P
Quoteyeah, but not in battleWrong again :P
Upgraded Mordin is kickass on insanity,he is melting armor like crazy.I always take him around.
Mordin is pretty sweet in battle. If you don't how to use tech squadmates, that kind of sucks. They come in handy.
Nope, Infy will rape your gay AdeptI am playing on Infy right now.Have all the party members,few loyalty missions are left
Also how do you get Brawler achievement? I keep punching then shooting but it doesnt count. Does this only work if you use a Shotgun?
It's the only fight achievement I need to get.
Nope, Infy will rape your gay AdeptI am playing on Infy right now.Have all the party members,few loyalty missions are left
Wow the story is kind of weird in the sense that it seems like ME1 never happened. You know you saved the universe, but people in the citadel sure don't treat you like a fucking hero. Makes no sense.
Ahh,i see,but i would still tear you to pieces,cloak wouldn't help you,i can see youNope, Infy will rape your gay AdeptI am playing on Infy right now.Have all the party members,few loyalty missions are left
I meant my Infiltrator setup would make your Adept suck his own dick cause he's a bitch
Also how do you get Brawler achievement? I keep punching then shooting but it doesnt count. Does this only work if you use a Shotgun?
It's the only fight achievement I need to get.
Not really. Mordin was pretty boring. I never used him in a fight.
But Legion was awesome and could be a great addition to the story since he's e geth and all.
If I'd have to choose, I'd let Jacob and Moridin die. I want Legion back.
Tali is the only chick I've banged btw. I wonder how her face looks like.
That part made me die laughing, as he lumbered away saying he'd destroy the galaxy some other time. :lol
Actually, overall, this game is a lot funnier than the original. There is more humor, for sure.
Damn Kosma, I cant wait to see your reactions when they bring up ME2 discussions in ME3
I dont get it
How would you guys rate the difficulty of this game for someone who's not used to (not good at) shooters? All this talk is making me interested, I might get the first one's platinum hits version, but I dunno if I should get it or not...don't wanna buy something I'm going to quit after a couple of hours. :-\
The game is mostly shooter combat based. Both of them. So if you don't like shooters I'm not sure you will like the series.
As far as difficulty it's not very hard and there is a casual difficulty setting in both games anyway. Normal isn't especially hard imo. I'm playing ME 2 on Veteran and knowing what I know now I would have played it on hardcore. Early combat can be challenging in certain spots at Veteran but once you are leveled up and upgraded, its a cakewalk. Same goes with other difficulty levels of course.
A bunch of sites rated Dragon Age Origins RPG of the year, figured I might as well give it a shot. Besides, it seems a lot of people here enjoyed it. :(you can ignore willco and patel, dragon age is the best rpg bioware has released in a long time and it will continue to be until they release the sequel
Note the hilarity: all the people bashing Dragon Age played it on console.
L-O-L.
Note the hilarity: all the people bashing Dragon Age played it on console.
L-O-L.
Interesting. You have to stick with your class if you do a new game +
I thought you might be able to switch classes but just bring your total number of ability points over to re-assign.
I'm almost tempted to just start a regular new game with a new class so I can try it out but I guess I'll stick with my adept and in Mass Effect 3, I'll try a new class again like I did in this one.
Why does Subject Zero only use a breathing mask attachment in sections with different atmosphere?
Yeah, I read elsewhere that her and Samara use breathing apparatuses because they use biotic barriers to protect their bodies. ::)mordin also only use a plexiglas mouth-guard, wonder how he gets away with it
It would be cool to see flying aliens.(collector's cheat with jetpacks) Or aliens that are huge or tiny. The whole Mass Effect universe is just pretty safe design-wise. All aliens are basically the same length too. Except for Volar. Asari's even have boobs.
And Hanar's are awesome. But they didn't have any input in ME2. The aliens with four eyes and vorcha's were pretty distinguished mentally-challenged. I liked Thane's design. And the quarian's are still intruiging.
Also Willco, you complaint about Dragon Age and DLC makes no sense considering Dragon Age has more content than ME2 and can last you 50-60 if or more if you want to do everything. I did just about everything in ME2 and it took me 37 hours.
It would be cool to see flying aliens.(collector's cheat with jetpacks) Or aliens that are huge or tiny. The whole Mass Effect universe is just pretty safe design-wise. All aliens are basically the same length too. Except for Volar. Asari's even have boobs.Not really the point of sci-fi like Mass Effect (or Star Wars, Star Trek, most popular space opera stuff.) It's the old west and/or medieval Europe, but in space. No need to gum up the works with aliens made out of gas or who evolved with 2 dozen legs when sexy blue women and awesome toad men will do.
And Hanar's are awesome. But they didn't have any input in ME2. The aliens with four eyes and vorcha's were pretty distinguished mentally-challenged. I liked Thane's design. And the quarian's are still intruiging.
All of my remaining upgrades need 25k platinum :'(
Mining :yuck Feels like something you'd do in an MMO. Not fun at all, the only positive feedback is lining your coffers.
Dragon Age wasn't perfect, but It didnt feel incomplete at all a 60 hours. There was a nice arc and conclusion. What do you mean the expansion stuff should have been in the game? The game is huge as is and the story arc ended.
The presentation wasn't bad at all for a game of its scope, it has some nice locales and scenes. Sure it wasnt as good as ME2 but it still looked good on my PC no doubt.
I really hope there will be a Dragon Age 2 instead of an endless stream of mini expansions.
The mining is a really strange addition by Bioware, they streamlined the entire experience yet added something that is such a chore. Doesn't add up.
Pfft, it's barely optional. You need to do it if you want upgrades.
But you can buy something to speed up the process...it just cost more minerals to buyeven with the upgrade it moves ridiculously slow. assuming you scan the entire planet in scan mode, it takes about 3 to 5 minutes
Is it really bad on 360? it takes at most 40 seconds to completely scan a planet by fanning the mouse around quickly.
I think the only one I have is the medical bay one to heal my scars. If it's from chatting with crewmates then I guess it will happen soon enough.
Mining with a controller should be more comfortable than mining with a mouse. All you have to do is push the stick to the direction that you want and the object will go that way forever.
The mouse doesn't have that luxury. You always have to reposition the mouse before it reaches the end of the table. And that's pretty shitty.
I think Miranda gives you the mining upgrade.
Dragon Age is great. Don't listen to weakass gamers who hate on it. I hope you're playing it on PC though Ichirou.
The combat is so much fun. I wish Bioware would make a Mass Effect loot game with this stuff. That would probably be the end of other games for me.
Cancel Dragon Age, replace with Mass Effect 2?
I swear I better get to see Tali's face in ME3. FFS
Cancel Dragon Age, replace with Mass Effect 2?
I swear I better get to see Tali's face in ME3. FFS
http://www.frogview.com/uploadimages3/48ea4cac300bd3.62577383frogview-gallery.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PjTuSQNLI4
This video shows why Erect 2 is so great. There's so much flavor and variety and flexibility.
are you doing a fresh insanity run or new game plus?
anyway, you'll grow into it. Don't forget that by the end of your first run you most likely had all the health and weapon upgrades. I'm late game in my second playthrough and it's pretty easy again (only hardcore...geth rifle is awesome, btw).
also, is overload that useful? warp seems to be just as good and serve more purposes. I keep seeing that respec sounding option at the upgrade booth and might take away overload in favor of maxing out throw, warp, and warp ammo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PjTuSQNLI4
This video shows why Erect 2 is so great. There's so much flavor and variety and flexibility.
are you doing a fresh insanity run or new game plus?
anyway, you'll grow into it. Don't forget that by the end of your first run you most likely had all the health and weapon upgrades. I'm late game in my second playthrough and it's pretty easy again (only hardcore...geth rifle is awesome, btw).
also, is overload that useful? warp seems to be just as good and serve more purposes. I keep seeing that respec sounding option at the upgrade booth and might take away overload in favor of maxing out throw, warp, and warp ammo.
are you doing a fresh insanity run or new game plus?
anyway, you'll grow into it. Don't forget that by the end of your first run you most likely had all the health and weapon upgrades. I'm late game in my second playthrough and it's pretty easy again (only hardcore...geth rifle is awesome, btw).
also, is overload that useful? warp seems to be just as good and serve more purposes. I keep seeing that respec sounding option at the upgrade booth and might take away overload in favor of maxing out throw, warp, and warp ammo.
Overload is awesome Vs. Robots. Also, you can use it on Blood Pack Pyros and make them INSTANTLY BLOW UP. It rules.
yeah, new game plus makes the game even harder. So it's more insanity+, which would be the hardest you could play on.are you doing a fresh insanity run or new game plus?
anyway, you'll grow into it. Don't forget that by the end of your first run you most likely had all the health and weapon upgrades. I'm late game in my second playthrough and it's pretty easy again (only hardcore...geth rifle is awesome, btw).
also, is overload that useful? warp seems to be just as good and serve more purposes. I keep seeing that respec sounding option at the upgrade booth and might take away overload in favor of maxing out throw, warp, and warp ammo.
Overload is awesome Vs. Robots. Also, you can use it on Blood Pack Pyros and make them INSTANTLY BLOW UP. It rules.
I'll probably try both setups and see which is better. I realized I'm not gonna have enough points to have anything else maxed.
yeah, new game plus makes the game even harder. So it's more insanity+, which would be the hardest you could play on.are you doing a fresh insanity run or new game plus?
anyway, you'll grow into it. Don't forget that by the end of your first run you most likely had all the health and weapon upgrades. I'm late game in my second playthrough and it's pretty easy again (only hardcore...geth rifle is awesome, btw).
also, is overload that useful? warp seems to be just as good and serve more purposes. I keep seeing that respec sounding option at the upgrade booth and might take away overload in favor of maxing out throw, warp, and warp ammo.
Overload is awesome Vs. Robots. Also, you can use it on Blood Pack Pyros and make them INSTANTLY BLOW UP. It rules.
I'll probably try both setups and see which is better. I realized I'm not gonna have enough points to have anything else maxed.
I wouldn't max overload. It's pretty situation specific, whereas Warp is ALWAYS usefull. But drop 2 points into it and it'll do it's job. Excepting shields, it's an instakill in a lot of situations (Pyros, Combat Drones), so dropping more points into it is sort of useless. And where its not insta (LOKI Mechs), you're pecking at Health, anyway, so it's just an ammo saver.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PjTuSQNLI4
This video shows why Erect 2 is so great. There's so much flavor and variety and flexibility.
Even being a good guy makes you sound like a smartass in this game. No cheesy moralfag talk.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PjTuSQNLI4
This video shows why Erect 2 is so great. There's so much flavor and variety and flexibility.
Even being a good guy makes you sound like a smartass in this game. No cheesy moralfag talk.
After watching that video, I'm definitely going to do a playthrough as a renegade. I'll probably just snag an ME1 save off the interwebs and go from there.
I've not had to switch back to Disc 1 yet.
If I install both discs, will the game recognize that it is the same game ID and let me cross from content on one disc to another regardless of which one is in the tray?No,probably OS thing,MS should update that.
i wonder what they will do with Mass 3. I mean with ME1 they kind of hit the reset button at the end allowing them to have all new characters and stuff.
But that's not the case here with ME2. We have the established set of characters that are mostly all still alive. Are they gonna continue with this crew? Find a way to hit the reset button again?
Will i know when thats coming?
I had a really weird experience with the IFF mission:spoiler (click to show/hide)I never chose to go on it. I was travelling from my ship to the Quarian Flotilla, when suddenly ... everyone on my ship got on a shuttle? And my crew was kidnapped? And then everyone came back? And then I went to the Quarian Flotilla?
It made no sense at all. Is there a trigger that automatically starts the mission if certain conditions are (or are not) met?[close]
I had a really weird experience with the IFF mission:Hmm,interesting,so you didn't havespoiler (click to show/hide)I never chose to go on it. I was travelling from my ship to the Quarian Flotilla, when suddenly ... everyone on my ship got on a shuttle? And my crew was kidnapped? And then everyone came back? And then I went to the Quarian Flotilla?
It made no sense at all. Is there a trigger that automatically starts the mission if certain conditions are (or are not) met?[close]
No... Here's how the IFF Mission went down.spoiler (click to show/hide)I had Legion afterward, because I did go on the IFF mission. I just never CHOSE to go on the IFF mission. I was randomly forced into it in the middle of going to the Quarian Flotilla. Like, I picked the Quarian Flotilla, and then after the loading screen instead of the Flotilla I got a CG of my party members evacuating on a shuttle for indiscernable reasons, and then I played as Joker while the ship was under attack, and then I got the IFF. And then the IFF mission finished and I was still in the Quarian Flotilla system. It was totally weird and arbitrary.
I only had 3 people Loyal at the time. so of course I killed hours after the IFF mission - I guess my crew is just fucked unless I revert to a 10-hour-previous save.[close]
For the Mass Effect 3 crew, I think it pretty much solves itselfspoiler (click to show/hide)-Mordin was only there because he has research on the collectors
-Samara took an oath with Shepard for this one collector mission (different if you have Morinth)
-Zaeed's pay was covered by Cerberus and it was for this one mission
-Miranda is with Cerberus, Jacob too.
-Thane is dying
-Jack also had a fair trade of doing this collector mission for info on cerberus
Assuming Cerberus does cut ties with you in ME2, a lot of people would be gone. Grunt, Legion, Tali, and Garrus are the ones there without any real catch. Personally, I have a strong feeling that Garrus is going to die in ME3 because in ME2 he was kinda portrayed as a survivor, and that shit always runs out soon enough.
I also think Liara will return as a party member because you know there will be a Shadow Broker mission, or maybe the Renegade choice is to go with the Shadow Broker. Maybe also the Rachni will also find some way to have a party member, maybe like how the collector leader took control of other people.
Of course this all changes depending on how ME2 ended and is just wild speculation.[close]
Tali better return :punch
Not in my ME3 campaign :smug
Not in my ME3 campaign :smug
you're horrible. how could you do such a thing?
ME3 is going to be GALACTIC WAR
Anyone you helped will join you in the ranks - tons of hints dropped. Rachni, Wrex, Quarians.... etc
ME3 is going to be GALACTIC WAR
Anyone you helped will join you in the ranks - tons of hints dropped. Rachni, Wrex, Quarians.... etc
Yeah, I think this is pretty much where the series is going. Patel told me in IM that it would be awesome if you could cure the genophage in the third one, leading the way for Krogans to kick ass.
I think if you fucked over certain species (Geth, Rachni, Krogan, etc.) that you will be able to defeat the Reapers by being a martyr of sorts (you won't survive), but in order to live through the campaign, you will have needed to unite all the alien races against the Reapers. So if you flushed the Rachni queen in the first one, you die.
So many people would be pissed. :lol
A lot of people did, if I recall.
I also think if you didn't save Wrex, the Krogan won't be able to unite to stop the Reapers, which will also hurt you in the end game.spoiler (click to show/hide)It'll be interesting to see how the choice whether or not to blow up the Collector base pans out. Maybe if you united all the species, but blow it up you still die? Maybe if you saved it, you somehow live to see Cerberus take over the galaxy?
I think regardless, the Illusive Man is being setup as the man "bad guy" in any potential spinoffs.[close]
I was trying to bone both Tali and Jack but when I was moving in on Jack she was mentioning Tali. So I backed off because I didn't want to ruin what I had with Tali.
Yes suh, I believe you can
I think a different direction to take in ME3 is to have you not play as Shepard at all. If it is about building a galactic army, it would be cool if it was like Dragon Age where you choose a race (with associated class) and began on the home planet, then eventually climb the command to fight alongside Shepard. Basically like Dragon Age Origins. That way they can cover any choices made in ME1 and ME2 without much difficulty. I mean, considering one of the endings in ME2 isspoiler (click to show/hide)Shepard dying, this will allow them to continue to story.[close]Yes suh, I believe you can
they have mentioned that being unfaithful has consequences in the next game :omg
I was trying to bone both Tali and Jack but when I was moving in on Jack she was mentioning Tali. So I backed off because I didn't want to ruin what I had with Tali.
You're such a vagina.
Mass Effect 2 :rock
I wish there were more guns in the game. There are like three different varieties for each gun class you can find? This is one area that does feel a little jobbed, because EA is going to sell us more guns with DLC.
I do agree that Borderlands should be the template, create a bounty board to get resources (no more mining!) and more guns. Keep the upgrades and stuff as is, though.
The actual guns are different too, though. Like the designs and everything.
Is this game worth a 360 purchase? I had to give back my borrowed 360 when my buddy got back from the desert, so now I'm looking for an excuse to get another one.Oh,yes...get ME1 also...and await ME3
Is this game worth a 360 purchase? I had to give back my borrowed 360 when my buddy got back from the desert, so now I'm looking for an excuse to get another one.
http://www.avclub.com/articles/biowares-dr-greg-zeschuk,37730/
Interesting interview.
Actually, with Dragon Age, I really liked the system the team came up with. It reflects what was important about the game, and that was the character relationships. It didn’t really matter what the world thought of you, but it mattered what the person standing next to you thought of you. And I thought that was a very meaningful thing that fit the game very well, because it was a lot about those relationships and taking them to a more realistic level. You had to carefully decide who you’re hanging out with, carefully determine which actions you want to take, who’s going to be pissed off as a result, and who’s going to be happy with you.
In Mass Effect’s case, that’s not exactly what it’s about. It is about Shepard, and it is about what the world and the universe and the galaxy think of Shepard. The Paragon and Renegade [scale] really fit the Mass Effect franchise. At a very high level, Mass is a different experience. Mass isn’t meant to be quite as gray and complicated. It’s meant to be more like, you’re the action star. You’re a thinking man’s action star, or thinking woman’s action star, but you’re an action star, and it’s a big, big, bold production. And so it has a different sensibility. I wouldn’t want it to be overly complex. You almost want the bold, dramatic actions.
Actually, with Dragon Age, I really liked the system the team came up with.
It reflects what was important about the game, and that was the character relationships.
It didn’t really matter what the world thought of you, but it mattered what the person standing next to you thought of you.
And I thought that was a very meaningful thing that fit the game very well, because it was a lot about those relationships and taking them to a more realistic level.
You had to carefully decide who you’re hanging out with, carefully determine which actions you want to take, who’s going to be pissed off as a result, and who’s going to be happy with you.
Man I just cannot get Brawler. I'll have to start a quick game as a Soldier and use a shotty.
Anyone know what characters give me the upgrades to ship fuel and probe capacity?
Anyone know what characters give me the upgrades to ship fuel and probe capacity?
Pretty sure it's Tali.
Anyone know what characters give me the upgrades to ship fuel and probe capacity?
Pretty sure it's Tali.
Thane gives the probes. Talki gives fuel.
Mass Effect 2 :rock
I wish there were more guns in the game. There are like three different varieties for each gun class you can find? This is one area that does feel a little jobbed, because EA is going to sell us more guns with DLC.
I do agree that Borderlands should be the template, create a bounty board to get resources (no more mining!) and more guns. Keep the upgrades and stuff as is, though.
Anyone know what characters give me the upgrades to ship fuel and probe capacity?
Pretty sure it's Tali.
Thane gives the probes. Talki gives fuel.
OK, don't have them yet. Don't even know who Talki is lol.
oh but why stop there? How about having a little Normandy going through a Pac-Man maze eating dots and avoiding ghosts for resources? Its certainly more left-field but inronically makes more sense and is less of an uninspired bullshit idea based on nothing other than the fact that you like Borderlands.
I really wish there were more guns in Sonic the Hedgehog 2. It really sucks beacuse we know that Sega are going to bend us over via DLC for the extra content. We really should have got that content with out initial 400pt XBLA purchase. Also ring collecting is ass! They really should have used Peggle as a template here, with Sonic firing a ball gun to collect the rings. Jumping is really tedious and Im quite bad at it
I wish ME2 had more Tali!
Nah Im ragging because its the classic whine: "I wish this game was like that game"
Nah Im ragging because its the classic whine: "I wish this game was like that game"
But your counterpoint was dumb - even for you. Not to mention that pretty much everyone is a vocal supporter of the game, but we wish the mundane, tedious mining minigame was axed in favor of something, I don't know, more fun.
The rest of your comment is lame troll stuff. :yuck
Hey fistful how hard would your boner be if they made a Mass Effect movie with Natalie Portman as Tali? Rate it on the Mohs scale of hardness.
I would prefer short missions - like when you find an anomaly - to score minerals. But even searching for the anomalies is tedious, which is why I referenced something like the bounty board in Borderlands. That way we can pick what side missions want to do (some might be at an Element Zero factory, another at a Platinum facility, etc.) and it's not so dull.
You can never have enough shooting.
I'd like for the load times to be shorter.
You can never have enough shooting.
I'd like for the load times to be shorter.
Are you playing it on the PC?
When I first played the load times were pretty bad, but the fix is going into task manager, right clicking ME2.exe or w/e it's called, going to set affinity, turning off all but one CPU core (I have a dual core, so turned off the second core) then turning them on again. Longest load times are 10 to 15 seconds. Moving between floors on the Normandy takes between 1 and 4 seconds.
I'd like for the load times to be shorter.
Are you playing it on the PC?
When I first played the load times were pretty bad, but the fix is going into task manager, right clicking ME2.exe or w/e it's called, going to set affinity, turning off all but one CPU core (I have a dual core, so turned off the second core) then turning them on again. Longest load times are 10 to 15 seconds. Moving between floors on the Normandy takes between 1 and 4 seconds.You can never have enough shooting.
Indeed.
ME2 combat is so good. Playing it more and more, I realize that I like it more than a lot of shooters because of how well the powers work. It even eliminates the hiding enemy problem in a lot of cover based shooters since I can curve powers.
Anyone know what characters give me the upgrades to ship fuel and probe capacity?
Pretty sure it's Tali.
Thane gives the probes. Talki gives fuel.
OK, don't have them yet. Don't even know who Talki is lol.
Do you have to upgrade the mess hall and the couplings from the engineering guys to save your team later?
I'd like for the load times to be shorter.
Are you playing it on the PC?
When I first played the load times were pretty bad, but the fix is going into task manager, right clicking ME2.exe or w/e it's called, going to set affinity, turning off all but one CPU core (I have a dual core, so turned off the second core) then turning them on again. Longest load times are 10 to 15 seconds. Moving between floors on the Normandy takes between 1 and 4 seconds.
I'd like for the load times to be shorter.
Are you playing it on the PC?
When I first played the load times were pretty bad, but the fix is going into task manager, right clicking ME2.exe or w/e it's called, going to set affinity, turning off all but one CPU core (I have a dual core, so turned off the second core) then turning them on again. Longest load times are 10 to 15 seconds. Moving between floors on the Normandy takes between 1 and 4 seconds.
Holy shit. I've played the game over 40 hours with ridicuous loading times. Thought it was normal.
Just did the fix, and the loading times are drastically shorter. It would take me over 20 seconds to get to another floor in the Normandy. Now it takes 2-3 seconds.
Going to a planet would take me 30-40 seconds. Now less than 15.
FUCK, SHOULD'VE DONE THIS SOONER
You guys like Thane? He's really boring... Grunt is bro
If you do choose to save the council at the end of ME1, does it drastically alter ME2? Or do they find some excuse to get them out of the picture anyway?
You guys like Thane? He's really boring... Grunt is bro
I just noticed this game doesnt have as much music as ME1 nor is it that good.
The ambient sound effects are good though, like on theits just that the soundtrack of ME1 was so nice and synthy, very 80's.spoiler (click to show/hide)Collectors ship where I'm now (how much more do I have left btw?)[close]
Alsospoiler (click to show/hide)Collectors are Protheans :'([close]
If any of you were treated like that as a child, I doubt you will come out much better! :maf
She's just out of place. I do need to finish her loyalty quest though, maybe there's some sort of chitzy Bioware redemption thing going on.
you can download mass effect pc save files from here: http://www.annakie.com/me/home.htm
doesn't matter which class you choose, you can change it after the prologue
I'm really trying to stay out of spoilers in this thread, just wanna ask a question. The save file i have from Mass Effect is on the 360, but i want to get Mass Effect 2 for the PC, how does it work? Can i at the beginning select a couple of choices that mimick those i made in the 1st? Or do i have to do a playthrough of Mass Effect 1...again?
I dug the original soundtrack, I just dig this one more. The end credits song to the original was the best, though.
[youtube=560,345]WYjpfdF3pdI[/youtube]
Sten was much cooler the Jack, he's just a hard nut to crack :)
...How do I change teammate clothes, lol
the only character i didn't like was Samara. boring and annoying character design.
the only character i didn't like was Samara. boring and annoying character design.
I kept wondering why everyone spoke english in this game, and in the Thane romance cutscene, Shepard mentions her translator glitching because there was a word she didn't understand. Don't know if that's a joke or everyone just has a translator unit in their head.
I kept wondering why everyone spoke english in this game, and in the Thane romance cutscene, Shepard mentions her translator glitching because there was a word she didn't understand. Don't know if that's a joke or everyone just has a translator unit in their head.
Samara is dope as fuck, I wish you could fuck her.
I'll stick with Samara on my second "canon" playthrough but I won't lie. I was tempted to switchover and still sort of am. The only reason I probably won't is that I get so caught up in that universe that I don't want to be that evil.
I found this pretty humorous. Obviously don't click if you don't want a big spoiler.spoiler (click to show/hide)While there, she tries to seduce you, almost beginning the mating process, until Samara arrives, sparking a fight between the two of them. With enough Renegade or Paragon points, you are given the choice to kill either Samara or Morinth. Killing Samara is considered to be the Renegade outcome, however Paragon Shepards are also able to choose this outcome if they have enough Paragon points and select the "Surprise" option when talking with Morinth. Killing Samara allows Morinth to later replace her mother on Shepard's team. Morinth will appear the same as her mother to the rest of your crew, with only Shepard knowing she secretly replaced the Justicar.
If Shepard talks to Mornith on the ship, she will express her desire to mate with him/her as they are unlike any other person she has had before. She even suggests that Commander Shepard is too strong willed to die if they join with her and proposes that after they complete their mission that they should celebrate by doing so. If Commander Shepard and Morinth survive the suicide mission, Shepard can choose to mate with her as she promised. However Morinth's claims prove to be a bluff and Shepard painfully dies during joining leading to a 'critical mission failure' game over message. Just like in battle, you can reload the game afterwards.[close]
I'll stick with Samara on my second "canon" playthrough but I won't lie. I was tempted to switchover and still sort of am. The only reason I probably won't is that I get so caught up in that universe that I don't want to be that evil.
I found this pretty humorous. Obviously don't click if you don't want a big spoiler.spoiler (click to show/hide)While there, she tries to seduce you, almost beginning the mating process, until Samara arrives, sparking a fight between the two of them. With enough Renegade or Paragon points, you are given the choice to kill either Samara or Morinth. Killing Samara is considered to be the Renegade outcome, however Paragon Shepards are also able to choose this outcome if they have enough Paragon points and select the "Surprise" option when talking with Morinth. Killing Samara allows Morinth to later replace her mother on Shepard's team. Morinth will appear the same as her mother to the rest of your crew, with only Shepard knowing she secretly replaced the Justicar.
If Shepard talks to Mornith on the ship, she will express her desire to mate with him/her as they are unlike any other person she has had before. She even suggests that Commander Shepard is too strong willed to die if they join with her and proposes that after they complete their mission that they should celebrate by doing so. If Commander Shepard and Morinth survive the suicide mission, Shepard can choose to mate with her as she promised. However Morinth's claims prove to be a bluff and Shepard painfully dies during joining leading to a 'critical mission failure' game over message. Just like in battle, you can reload the game afterwards.[close]
I did everything in the game and my character is only lvl 26. How am I supposed to get to lvl 30 when there's no shit left to do?new game+
I did everything in the game and my character is only lvl 26. How am I supposed to get to lvl 30 when there's no shit left to do?
So how massive were your erections while playing this game? Thinking of picking it up this weekend. Need to know if I should put my baggy sweatpants through the laundry before then.
So how massive were your erections while playing this game? Thinking of picking it up this weekend. Need to know if I should put my baggy sweatpants through the laundry before then.
Mass Effect 2 is better than most movies
I've got a question about a side-quest on Illium:spoiler (click to show/hide)So the Liara quest to hack terminals gives me Renegade points for completing it. I'm trying to be a space boy scout and avoiding any Renegade I can but I can't seem to find a way to complete this quest with a Paragon solution. Is there one? Is the quest important enough to just suck up and take the 5 Renegade?[close]
I've got a question about a side-quest on Illium:spoiler (click to show/hide)So the Liara quest to hack terminals gives me Renegade points for completing it. I'm trying to be a space boy scout and avoiding any Renegade I can but I can't seem to find a way to complete this quest with a Paragon solution. Is there one? Is the quest important enough to just suck up and take the 5 Renegade?[close]
getting into ME1. Combat is still really weird but I can see how people could prefer it.
This is the second time I've seen it compared to Uncharted 2 as an apple to apples comparison. The only thing they share is being the a game of high praise on their respective consoles (and PC, for ME2). That said, Mass Effect 2 annihilates Uncharted 2 and pretty much everything else on the either system. Best 360 game by a landslide.
Also, is there any consensus regardingI did everything right and still lost half a crew :(spoiler (click to show/hide)Who lives/dies based on squad choice? OH Yeah. JACK ALSO DIED but fuck her[close]
PS3 fanboys don't deserve a game this good. Go play Uncharted 2.
This is the second time I've seen it compared to Uncharted 2 as an apple to apples comparison. The only thing they share is being the a game of high praise on their respective consoles (and PC, for ME2). That said, Mass Effect 2 annihilates Uncharted 2 and pretty much everything else on the either system. Best 360 game by a landslide.
SON OF A FRIGGIN BITCH. My ending sucked :(
I did all the loyalty missions and got all of the upgrades. Andspoiler (click to show/hide)my 3 favorite characters: Garrus, Legion and Grunt all died :( I chose Tali for the tech mission because Ias hoping she'd die in the tubes. Garrus led the first fire team. Jacob escorted the crew back to the ship. Jack did the biotic shield and I took Miranda and Garrus with me. Grunt led Fire Team 2. We did the biotics section fine, but at thend Garrus got carried away by the swarm. 2 seconds later Grunt walked in gut shot and died :( I finished the boss from Super Contra and Legion almost fell off the platform. I was relieved when he survived. BUT THEN! WHen everyone wakes up, Legion was dead :( Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.
Anyway, goofy last boss. It's literally the boss from Contra brought to goofy life. F that. SADDEST ENDING EVER[close]
Ok, I totally agreed with you until you mentioned Shitmue.
Not really aimed at anyone per se but just saying. Let's talk Mass Effect in a Mass Effect thread.
I cant believe I failed with the Mirtha for a second time :lol
Too bad none of my friends bought this on 360. :-\
When weighed against the GOTY's of the last 3 years: L4D2(09), MGS4(08), and Half Life 2: Episode 2(07), Mass Effect 2 is better than MGS4 and L4D2. So far second best game I've played this gen. Real talk
I only say that because I have no one to borrow it from. :-[Too bad none of my friends bought this on 360. :-\
Did they get it on the PC? The PC version is very well optimized and looks ridiculously good in high res+16xAF+4xAA. Also controls like a dream.
If they just didn't pick it up at all your quest now is to beat them over the head until they do. Best console game (and yes, it is definitely a console game, even on the PC) I've played in a very long time.
I'm warming up to the mission complete screen. At first I despised it and thought it broke the whole flow of the game but since I only play for small spurts either early in the morning or late in the evening, it become a wonderful method to bracket the action and story. It cleanly frames that section of the story and even adds some objective comments from the Illusive Man about your actions in the mission. In a way it does almost feel a little episodic and makes a great jumping off point for me to stop playing the game.
Is the Illusive Man actually a good or bad guy? He's so enigmatic. And his eyes don't look human.
There's always that star in his office, too. I wonder if we'll get to know more about him in ME3.
The strat I read on the ending:spoiler (click to show/hide)Vents: Legion or Tali
Leading a fire team: Miranda, Garrus or Jacob
Biotic shield: Jack or Samara
Leading the crew: Any squadmate with maxed loyalty
FWIW, I saved everyone with the following choices:
Vents: Legion
Fire team 1: Garrus
Fire team 2: Miranda (she came out of that cutscene with an injury to her side)
Biotic shield: Jack
Leading the crew: Jacob
I had maxed the ship, had most upgrades.[close]
4) Make it look and sound great and perform flawlessly. My FRAPS count rarely dipped below 57-60 the entire game.
Is the Illusive Man actually a good or bad guy? He's so enigmatic. And his eyes don't look human.
There's always that star in his office, too. I wonder if we'll get to know more about him in ME3.
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Mass Erect baby
Here's an idea for minerals in the next game: You spend credits to buy Shares in Mineral Mining Corporations. Every hour or whatever you get # of minerals * shares.I have few ideas for the next game too.
Or just disgusise and be able to "hire miners". You can do a pickup at any fuel station.
ok i fixed it, dont come back thanks.
Yeah I didnt miss out much. Like I said, the one where everyone croaks is better...
You can find that on youtube... i dont want to post it in fear of kosma screaming at me with a frying pan
Unless you run straight to the final mission and don't do any of the side quests, you probably won't even get that ending anyway.Some guy was wondering what is the point of disc 2,he finished the game using disc one only :lol
I also read about the ending before actually getting there. But...spoiler (click to show/hide)... I didn't know you could save all of them if you made the right decisions. I thought someone HAD to die eventually. But seemed not.[close]
How do you change a crew members outfit after you finish their loyalty mission?
spoiler (click to show/hide)fucking salarian died. i made all the right choices, didn't make him do anything[close]
went through the omega 4 relay and no tali fucking and i dunno why.
fucking quarian whore.
my shepard just kept staring at liara's photo.
so lonely :(
SPOILERS ETC
having legion during tali's recruitment
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy9GYGFKpOw[/youtube]
people keep saying that the locations in ME1 are better than the ones in ME2. Did I miss a shit-ton of fucking awesome stuff by sticking to the main storyline in ME1?
Skimming the two Gaf threads. I've seen a bunch of people saying it.
I really can't think of anything that people could like about the original over the sequel, other than maybe the soundtrack.
people keep saying that the locations in ME1 are better than the ones in ME2. Did I miss a shit-ton of fucking awesome stuff by sticking to the main storyline in ME1?
Wait, who says this? Locations were way more unique and varied in ME2, plus Illium and Omega were totally awesome.
I LOVE the removal of those useless RPG gameplay relics that do absolutely nothing to enhance or deepen the gameplay. This is an action RPG with a deep focus on character interaction and tactical cover-based shooter gameplay. Anything done to divert the focus from that is a complete hindrance to the experience. The game feels like a more focused affair with the rudimentary upgrade path relegated exclusively to in-between missions. It's exactly what the series needed.
I'm not saying that I don't mind them, in fact I love that style of customization in other RPGs where appropriate. I must stress that not only did BioWare make the right choice, but they created a stunning example that the RPG genre shouldn't be pigeonholed by atrocious design.
There isn't a single saving grace of the original Mass Effect. The sequel is a substantial leap forward in every regard.
Skimming the two Gaf threads. I've seen a bunch of people saying it.
spoiler (click to show/hide)Did anyone choose to kill Samara? I'm going for as much Paragon as I can with this playthrough, but I restarted the mission just before that point to try it. It kind of sucks that her daughter just takes her place (although understandable given limitations), but does this change anything? Like does "Samara's" dialogue change any?[close]
Wish I had gotten Legion earlier. I keep wondering what kind of reactions, if any, the various NPCs and characters (Tali is the obvious one!) would have towards it walking around.
Skimming the two Gaf threads. I've seen a bunch of people saying it.
The mass effect 2 thread on gaf illustrates how fucking distinguished mentally-challenged most of the people there are, and how many dipshits populate it. Hate bomb on that bitch.
Wish I had gotten Legion earlier. I keep wondering what kind of reactions, if any, the various NPCs and characters (Tali is the obvious one!) would have towards it walking around.
If you're going for full Paragon, you better wait until your done doing side quests to get Legion.
spoiler (click to show/hide)Did anyone choose to kill Samara? I'm going for as much Paragon as I can with this playthrough, but I restarted the mission just before that point to try it. It kind of sucks that her daughter just takes her place (although understandable given limitations), but does this change anything? Like does "Samara's" dialogue change any?[close]spoiler (click to show/hide)if you romance Morinth. you die[close]
Because Tali is sexy.
Wish I had gotten Legion earlier. I keep wondering what kind of reactions, if any, the various NPCs and characters (Tali is the obvious one!) would have towards it walking around.
If you're going for full Paragon, you better wait until your done doing side quests to get Legion.
Too late. Is that going to have some sort of effect on the ending outcome? I want everyone to survive with this play-through.
spoiler (click to show/hide)Did anyone choose to kill Samara? I'm going for as much Paragon as I can with this playthrough, but I restarted the mission just before that point to try it. It kind of sucks that her daughter just takes her place (although understandable given limitations), but does this change anything? Like does "Samara's" dialogue change any?[close]spoiler (click to show/hide)if you romance Morinth. you die[close]
I saw about that, but is that it? Nothing else is different? That's disappointing.
Wish I had gotten Legion earlier. I keep wondering what kind of reactions, if any, the various NPCs and characters (Tali is the obvious one!) would have towards it walking around.
If you're going for full Paragon, you better wait until your done doing side quests to get Legion.
Too late. Is that going to have some sort of effect on the ending outcome? I want everyone to survive with this play-through.
fucking bullshit "No One Left Behind" achievement :maf
How did you guys do it?
I put Legion in vents, Zaaeed in charge of second group. I also tried Tali in vents before, and both her and Legion died despite being full loyalty.
Mordin and Thane are my favorite characters. I hope they return for the sequel.
Mordin and Thane are my favorite characters. I hope they return for the sequel.
Legion is the only character that made sense to put in the vents. Because the only other option is Tali and why would I ever risk her safety?
Mordin and Thane are my favorite characters. I hope they return for the sequel.
Agreed on that. I also like Garrus though.
Legion is the only character that made sense to put in the vents. Because the only other option is Tali and why would I ever risk her safety?
Free DLC is coming out tomorrow if you signed up for the Cerberus network (I think it was required to get any of the DLC). It's new armor and a new shotgun that is supposed to have more range and armor piercing, maybe make that vanguard class less gimped at higher levels.
Wish I had gotten Legion earlier. I keep wondering what kind of reactions, if any, the various NPCs and characters (Tali is the obvious one!) would have towards it walking around.
If you're going for full Paragon, you better wait until your done doing side quests to get Legion.
Too late. Is that going to have some sort of effect on the ending outcome? I want everyone to survive with this play-through.spoiler (click to show/hide)After one or two missions following when the activation of Legion, the Reaper IFF will be installed. Shephard and the other team members will leave the ship in a shuttle while Joker and EDI test the IFF. After you're gone, Collectors take over the ship and kidnap everyone aside from Joker. If you don't go after them immediately following this, all the kidnapped crew will be killed.[close]
how do i change my advanced training powers? i had shredder ammo and researched barrier and it replaced shredder ammo
and i want shredder back
So i've done every last loyalty mission, sidequest, and assignment you can do before IFF. How much more can I do in this game? Just wondering if more stuff to do opens up. I know about the last recruit and his loyalty mission...that's about it. Not sure how much story is left.
So i've done every last loyalty mission, sidequest, and assignment you can do before IFF. How much more can I do in this game? Just wondering if more stuff to do opens up. I know about the last recruit and his loyalty mission...that's about it. Not sure how much story is left.
You're pretty much at the end.
I don't normally go for the super hard modes in shooters since they often feel imbalanced with off-screen shots/emphasis on luck, but I think I'll go for insanity on this one. maybe my first 1000
you can go lesbo with kelly.
I don't normally go for the super hard modes in shooters since they often feel imbalanced with off-screen shots/emphasis on luck, but I think I'll go for insanity on this one. maybe my first 1000
Insanity is a bit annoying. I probably would have done hardcore on my second playthrough in retrospect if you actually want to enjoy yourself but I'm so far into it now, that I'll stick with it.
Ugh, so casual.
i kinda want that N7 hoodie bioware has for sale. but its 60 bucks. :\
nsanity is a bit annoying. I probably would have done hardcore on my second playthrough in retrospect if you actually want to enjoy yourself but I'm so far into it now, that I'll stick with it.
The achievements in this game are pretty easy also and I'm not one that will ever go out of the way to get those.
The only ones I probably won't end up with are the one where you have to kill enemies knocked back by a punch and the pursue a successful relationship since hot lesbian action isn't allowed this go around.
so it is kinda cheap then? I'll try it out and see how it is.
HOLY GOD DONT LISTEN TO HIM
It's the hardest difficulty. OF COURSE THE WILL HAVE SHIELDING
Sorry you have to use those skills?
I played on hardcore and I liked the higher difficulty. On normal it was just like "pick whoever to go with you" and it was just about layering on damage to the enemy. I felt that my choices for squad members and my own actions in a battle were required more planning. I ended up enjoying it more than playing it regular. Still, the ability to position your squad was mostly useless even at higher levels, I thought.
Friendly AI is still annoying, but it is so much improved from the first game. Teammates wouldn't follow you or wouldn't attack in many cases in the first game, and I've yet to see anything like that in this one. They also take cover in this one, which I don't remember them doing in the first one.
if insane forces me to use more power combos, that'll be cool. I like using those, but most of the enemies go down in a few shots on normal, aside from the larger mechs.
I played on hardcore and I liked the higher difficulty. On normal it was just like "pick whoever to go with you" and it was just about layering on damage to the enemy. I felt that my choices for squad members and my own actions in a battle were required more planning. I ended up enjoying it more than playing it regular. Still, the ability to position your squad was mostly useless even at higher levels, I thought.
Finished at 38 hours; glad you can talk to the crew when the game is over...missed the paragon achievement but was able to get it post-credits. Nobody died on my team, but only the good doctor survived out of the ship's crew. Maybe if I'm crazy enough I'll restart and play through again without letting that happen, but I'd rather go full-on renegade and be 100% asshole Shephard next time. Plus I want to see how different it is when changing decisions around in the original game.
yeah thats what Im gonna do, replay ME1 as 100% asshole (and to mop up the last few cheevs) and import that save for my ME2 Insanity play through (also as an asshole). Lent my copy of ME2 to a bro already becuase he was poor and horny as to play the game.
I really hope we see some sizable DLC for this game in the future. Like really big, say The Ballad of Gay Tony size (8 hours or so)
The female voice actor is just better, IMO.
female voice is too deep.
male is sexier.
female voice is too deep.
male is sexier.
The female Shephard is more of a man than the male Shephard is. :smug I made Asshole Shephard a butch lesbian.
playing female when you are a guy :lol
weeaboo creeps
i bought that n7 hoodie from bioware :rofl
:rofl
The wife demands I only play the game when she's around so she can watch the story unfold. I'll play a bit and hope I don't reach any major story parts.spoiler (click to show/hide)Is getting the IFF a huge story critical mission? Or is it like the Collector's Ship.[close]
huh that hoodie looks awesome plus minimal.i bought that n7 hoodie from bioware :rofl
:-\
The only problem i see is that it costs 60 bucks
I would definitely JO to CG nudes of Miranda. That figure! :drool
launching probe
-Most of the "customization" in the first game was pretty pointless
-Most of the abilities in the first game were pretty pointless
-Leveling up during a mission was neat, but hardly essential
I don't think it's possible to fuck up the Galaxy Map more than Bioware did.
Having to scroll around from planet to planet sucks. Having to buy fuel sucks. The old system was perfect.
So my Shepard just fucked Jack when she asked if he was only asking questions because he wanted sex. I need to know: will this affect my ability to bed Miranda later in the game? I didn't get an achievement for completing a romantic subplot, so I'm guessing the Jack thing isn't very significant.
So my Shepard just fucked Jack when she asked if he was only asking questions because he wanted sex. I need to know: will this affect my ability to bed Miranda later in the game? I didn't get an achievement for completing a romantic subplot, so I'm guessing the Jack thing isn't very significant.
uh... you sure he fucked? i got the achievement by fucking Jack.
Way to shit up a thread, Viscen.
THEY DREW FIRST BLOOD, NOT ME!
Played through on normal and will probably replay on veteran. Throw/Pull/Lift are all voided by shields and armor, no? Seems like they're kind of pointless if you can only use them when you've already worn down the enemy to their most vulnerable, but maybe everyone has a ton of health on the harder difficulties.
mandark plays videogames? :o
You know what's epic in Mass Effect 2? Getting unique liquor for Chakwas so you can get crunk and suck on her raisin cunt.
"Sure, you can score the fast, hot romp in the sack with "Mass Effect 2's" all-mighty space warrior called Subject Zero. But you know what's even hotter — getting to know and understand her before you go for a roll in the hay.":rofl
Poll: Which was more awkward to watch?
* Dragon Age'ssexdry humping scenes
* Watching your characters suck face in Mass Effect 2
Miranda with Warp Level 4 made the final battle stuff a breeze. Of course, I was playing on Normal.
After beating ME1, I told myself I'd play through again as Renegade but never did. This time I won't say I'm going to replay it, but I did enjoy the game immensely. I just don't replay games.
I'm going to replay it once for the Insanity achievement. I think I'll go pure Renegade this time. It seems like there are a lot more Renegade interrupt actions, and they're always a lot more badass than the Paragon ones.
Only problem is, eventually I'd like to have a save file that spans all three Mass Effect games. Since I lost my hard drive from when I originally played ME1, I'll need to play through it again. So I'll have to go Renegade with that file. I also wanted to play a female, but the lack of lesbo options is kinda sad. I'm not gay enough to want to see Jacob with his shirt off.THEY DREW FIRST BLOOD, NOT ME!
THAT IS THE BEST QUOTE
But those PMs are GOLD, Jerry! PURE GOLD! :rofl
Anyone with an IQ above 85 should be able to recognize that quote was an obvious joke meant to lighten up the situation. Do you know anyone who makes serious Rambo quotes? Neither do I. Eat shit, man.
I really don't see the Asari as being Vulcan-like. Too much emotion and far more conniving than any Vulcan, also there's the whole one-gender thing and the abundance of cross-species mating.
Krogan are definitely cut from the same mold as Klingons, only they're even MORE warlike.
I really don't see the Asari as being Vulcan-like. Too much emotion and far more conniving than any Vulcan, also there's the whole one-gender thing and the abundance of cross-species mating.
Krogan are definitely cut from the same mold as Klingons, only they're even MORE warlike.
There are a pretty wide range of Asari. I'm not sure they fit the Vulcan mold although Krogan are very much akin to Klingons.
Disposable White Guy banged the entire crew somehow, and still maintained loyalty. I don't know how he did it. I think he even banged that GILF, Doctor Chakwas.
FFS. FemShep's voice acting is so much better than the male counterpart.
Whenever he tries to say something smooth, I laugh so fucking hard.
Kasumi looks pretty boring. I think it's lame they are waiting so long after the game is released to make her available. I'll probably be done with it by then. :-\
Choosing Renegade results in the love interest leaving the room; this does not, however, end the romance, which continues on to the next game regardless of the response picked.
False. Renegade male shep > all other sheps. Female paragon shep > male paragon shep, though.
[youtube=560,345]yEKimliDJ6I[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEKimliDJ6I
This game is so pretty, prettiest game I've played yet. I'm on the mission to get the Warlord and just came upon Tank Bred Krogan :'(, best moment in the game so far. Really good character. Wish he would've joined me :(
* Fixed video hitching and crashes related to single core machines.
* Single core users may experience short periods of black screen that may last up a few seconds between level loads, cinematic transitions or movies.
* In rare cases, some single core users may notice dialog lines in certain conversations may be delayed up to a few seconds.
* Fixed an issue where it appears ammunition can be picked up, but can't.
* Fixed an issue where all Codex entries were marked as 'viewed', even if the player chose not to view them.
* Fixed an issue where weapon icons are re-organized after downloadable content is used.
* Fixed an issue where pressing F9 after the mission completion screen reset Shepard to Level 1.
* Fixed an issue where remapping the right mouse button blocks camera control in the command HUD.
* Fixed an issue where remapping the 'use' command affects the decryption minigame.
* Fixed an issue where users were not prompted to restart when logging in to a different EA Online account.
* Fixed an issue where movies do not play in DLC.
* It is recommended that players reset their keyboard mapping to default values to ensure proper vehicle control.
* Added useful messaging during the ME1 save game import.
* Weapon icon for henchmen never changes from Collector Assault Rifle.
* Czech language - Issues with Czech localization (subtitles) were amended, all text was corrected and improved.
* Fixed an issue where the Mass Effect 2 launcher was being associated with files that have no extension.
* Fixed an issue where uninstalling the game under Windows Vista or Windows 7 might uninstall Mass Effect 1.
BioWare has announced plans to release the Firewalker pack for Mass Effect 2 in late March, introducing the Hammerhead heavy assault vehicle.
The pack will be free to Cerberus Network members, so if you bought the game new then you won't have to pay any extra money. Access for second-handers costs about 10 quid on PC or Xbox 360.
You will get to use the Hammerhead in five new missions. It hovers over the ground at over 120kph and has a guided missile system "ensuring accuracy even during aggressive manoeuvring".
What is the "point of no return" for the game? My aim this weekend is to play up to that point, do all the sidequests and stuff, and then switch over to FF13 till the next Cerebus Network package comes out (the one with the rover missions). Then do that and go finish the game.
WRONG. The point of no return is when you do the IFF mission. Do everything BEFORE that
have we got a date for the Hammerhead dlc yet? I need to get my copy of Mass Effect 2 back off a bro in time for it
edit: 8000th post wooooo. fml
Artist is unknown, just got this from the Mass Effect 2 twitter feed - but it's the coolest fan art I have ever seen:
(http://cdn.cloudfiles.mosso.com/c54102/x2_cbeff2)
Hopefully, this guy can get a job!
Thread could use some less creepy artwork:
Yes you can choose to do IFF
(do all sidequests etc whatever) -> Do IFF Mission (point of no return) -> Do Legion's sidequest ONLY after -> trigger cutscene -> do suicide mission
Kasumi? Is she Japanese? That would be so cool :]
Kelly dies if you do any dawdling, i.e. do sidequests
Why do I recommend it - you need loyalty status for Legion to survive (may or may not happen), you get his achievement... etc.
And the only time you can do Legion's quest is after IFF and you really have no choice in dawdling considering what happens immediately after.
How do you like ME1/2, ichi?
How do you like ME1/2, ichi?
I'm just about finished with Ilos in ME1 and so far I think it is awsummmmmmmm.
I'm gonna borrow ME2 from my friend tomorrow. :elephant
The sidequests in ME1 suck, but I still did most of them.
It feels too shootery right now
It feels too shootery right now
The first one had broken combat imo.
It feels too shootery right now
The first one had broken combat imo.
Maybe I'm looking through rose coloured glasses but I recall it being better. Will play some more before I form a real opinion
GDC 10: More Mass Effect 2 Content on the Way
A new party member and more, for a price.
by Charles Onyett
March 11, 2010 - We've seen a number of downloadable content releases so far for BioWare's Mass Effect 2, and we're told the next will cost you real dollars. No word yet on exactly how expensive it'll be since BioWare's still figuring it out, but it does come along with a number of new items and story bits. The content should be ready to go on April 6 for Xbox 360 and PC.
One of the main attractions of the download is Kasumi, a stealthy female fighter who you can meet up with in the Citadel. After getting her attention and talking to her about the task she wants you to do, she'll become a member of your party. So after you're all done, she'll take up residence on your ship. You can walk into her room, examine all the cool paintings she has on the wall, and fix yourself a drink at the bar. Like Zaeed, another added character through downloadable content, you can't actually engage in full conversation with her, she just talks at you as you wander around her room.
With a dark hook, black eyes, and a cloaking ability, Kasumi is an intimidating character. In battle, she can also pull off the Mass Effect equivalent of a rogue backstab, as she cloaks, moves behind a target, then reappears and whacks the foe in the back of its head with your omni-tool. She'll also offer the ability to toss out flashbangs as a loyalty bonus, and during the mission you'll get a fancy new gun.
You'll be able to access the content regardless of where you are in the game – whether you're halfway through the story or finished. In all we're told it'll take about one hour and a half to complete, and according to BioWare plays out a little like a James Bond mission. First you infiltrate and mingle with the enemy, then you start shooting. Kasumi will fill you in on the mission details on the Citadel, and then you fly off to the location of the target's mansion, which turns out to be fairly lavish.
I won't spoil any of the specifics, but the plot does at one point involve Michelangelo's David. The setting itself looked impressive, as the interior of the mansion looked out over grassy fields, a large expanse of water, and a city in the distance under a clear, sunny sky. Within the residence were a number of elaborate paintings, bookshelves, and other fancy features as guests of the target's party wandered around in formal wear, clinking glasses as piano music played in the background.
Once the fighting breaks out, expect things to get quite hectic as Shepard and Kasumi battle against a number of formidable foes, some of which will lob flashbangs your way. Assuming the price is right, this could be a nice addition for fans of BioWare's sci-fi RPG.
So is this scanning mini game
So is this scanning mini game
:S
These husks on Horizon in the courtyard can GET FUCKEDdon't stand in one place, move like a mad man, shoot when you can and then move again.
omg this is fucking distinguished mentally-challenged I cant stay alive for more than 10 seconds
These husks on Horizon in the courtyard can GET FUCKED
omg this is fucking distinguished mentally-challenged I cant stay alive for more than 10 seconds
Yeah I got through with Wrex 2 using a shotgun and me using the Collector rifle. Fucking stupid shit, wish I'd chosen Soldier and not Infiltrator in ME1 now.
I'm playing as a soldier. Feels so good to switch out weapons depending on the situation. Sniping vorcha trying to hit me with rocket launchers and then switching to shotguns for closer-range combat.I played as a soldier in ME1. I wasn't in the mood for that again. I chose vanguard this time.
Dr. Chakwas :-[
Dr. Chakwas :-[
Dr. Chakwas :-[
I thought drinking with her would go somewhere. :(
Me too, I liked her since the first game. I wish I could've took her with me instead of Ashley. :yuckDr. Chakwas :-[
I thought drinking with her would go somewhere. :(
You must've chosen the wrong dialogue choice. :-*You better be fucking around. I'd probably start over. :lol
Funny thing to me about the Miranda game model is that she has such a nice ass, while the real Yvonne Strahovski has no ass to speak of. :lol
Funny thing to me about the Miranda game model is that she has such a nice ass, while the real Yvonne Strahovski has no ass to speak of. :lol
Pretty surprising, usually Polacks have plump asses (and big boobs). This chick is really hot though (of course I see her last name ending in "ski" I rush to google, considering my "thing" for E.Europe girls), didn't know Miranda was based off her.
Interesting slides about ME2 development...
http://prezi.com/6xe1ucvy8egf/where-did-my-inventory-go/ (http://prezi.com/6xe1ucvy8egf/where-did-my-inventory-go/)
A little example,Bioware turned off ME2 RPG features,goal=shooter combat must be good...took 3 months...RPG features back on
I wonder how that made her feel, when they changed practically everything about her except her face, and then called her the genetically perfect human. lol :lol
agreedInteresting slides about ME2 development...
http://prezi.com/6xe1ucvy8egf/where-did-my-inventory-go/ (http://prezi.com/6xe1ucvy8egf/where-did-my-inventory-go/)
A little example,Bioware turned off ME2 RPG features,goal=shooter combat must be good...took 3 months...RPG features back on
Thanks, this is a fantastic presentation
spoiler (click to show/hide)if you saved the Rachni you just get a sound clip in one of the newscasts[close]
Quote from: Ichirouspoiler (click to show/hide)if you saved the Rachni you just get a sound clip in one of the newscasts[close]spoiler (click to show/hide)You also meet an Asari on Illium who brings you a message from the Rachni queen.[close]
WHY THE FUCK DID I EVER LET THAT BITCH LIVE
I really enjoy this game, but fuck me the level design and game structure is repetitive as hell.
I also chose the alien in the first ME for the lack of a better alternative. It was either her or that weirdo, Kaiden.
I really enjoy this game, but fuck me the level design and game structure is repetitive as hell.
Its not ideal but then it's about a 1000X times improvement over the original so I can deal. The very differing looks of things made it feel a lot less repetitive than the original.
Jacob is the new Kaiden. Seems like they have to have a complete douche no matter what
Jacob is the new Kaiden. Seems like they have to have a complete douche no matter what
This is a very cool presentation on why BioWare changed Mass Effect for the better:
http://prezi.com/6xe1ucvy8egf/where-did-my-inventory-go/ (http://prezi.com/6xe1ucvy8egf/where-did-my-inventory-go/)
At the Game Developers Conference last week, speaking at a panel devoted solely to “Refining Gameplay in Mass Effect 2,” Christina Norman, the game’s lead gameplay designer, dived into the internal workings and discussed the major changes made to the sci-fi sequel.
Going into development on Mass Effect 2, BioWare knew one of the main goals to improve over the first game was to bring “more satisfying combat” while giving the sequel an “intense feel” that Mass Effect lacked. Norman admitted to the fact that the first game looked like a shooter but did not play like one.
“BioWare is strong on RPG and story,” yet “not so strong on shooter combat.” Those changes were implemented, based in part on the BioWare community feedback, and received high marks with both gamers and critics; yet more adjustments are still needed for the next installment of the trilogy.
As with previous games, BioWare continues to embrace the gaming community by actively listening to their fans - and detractors - by using community feedback as a driving factor for development on Mass Effect 3. Norman even pointed out a couple of forum threads in her panel to highlight the disappointment of some fans, saying that the third game will have “richer RPG features,” more “combat options,” and probably less of the planet mining because that was something “nobody liked.”
Jacob is the new Kaiden. Seems like they have to have a complete douche no matter what
Hmmm... I didn't get that impression at all but everybody is different. Jacob might be considered boring to some but he has none of the bad attitude or bad intentions of some of the other characters. And certainly not like Ashley or Kaiden.
Miranda is more of a douche if we want to get technical about it based on her morals.
I don't like Jacob because he takes such pains to say what a good guy he is, which makes him come off as a dick, IMO. "I SAVED THE CITADEL! I'M A SECRET HERO!" Kaidan was actually more interesting, IMO, because of his backstory about his biotics training. With Jacob, it seems they were trying to make a heroic black character but ended up making the guy act like a complete pussy.
With Miranda, her character is more interesting because she's psychologically damaged. First, she was used by her father, then she let herself be used by Cerberus. She seems to only consider herself to be worth anything because of the genetic enhancements that were made to her. So while she puts up this arrogant front, in reality she has no confidence in herself because she believes her abilities are only there because of what her dad did to her.
Did anyone else feel like the characters were way more disturbed by the events in Jacob's loyalty mission than you were?
I felt like it wasn't a clear black and white issue. There were many potential gray areas that weren't explored at all. For example, if there is only a limited supply of food that doesn't cause a loss of higher brain function, it makes sense to ration that food out to the leadership so that someone would still be functional enough to call for help and run things.
The other alternative would be to let everyone lose their brain functionality, which would probably result in everyone on that planet dying in short order.
Ronald served as First Officer on the Hugo Gernsback, which crashed into 2175 Aeia in 2175. Captain Harris Fairchild was killed in the crash, and following emergency protocols, Ronald was promoted to acting Captain.
Upon assessment of the ship, however, the distress beacon was discovered to be damaged, and would take some time to repair---far longer than the time it would take for the surviving crew members to survive on the ship's food supplies. An analysis of the local flora revealed that the food on the planet was toxic, and could cause neural decay if ingested. Initially, Ronald Taylor decided to save the ship's food stores for himself and the remaining officers, implementing harsh but necessary rules in order to ensure that at least someone would remain in full control of their faculties for the beacon to be repaired. As the days went by, however, Ronald began to get used to life on the planet, living like a king, going so far as to assign the women to himself and his officers as pets. Thus, when the beacon was finally repaired around a year after the crash, Ronald, unwilling to answer for his actions, refused to activate it, believing that it was best that they disappear off the face of the galaxy.
When one of his officers started feeling remorse for their actions, Ronald turned his security mechs on him. Either from paranoia or in self-defense, Ronald eventually killed all the other officers within the same week, leaving him the only one with food from the ship's stores and in full control of the security mechs. Ronald exiled or killed most of the men after the decay lowered inhibitions, making them resistant to Taylor's authority and increasingly violent. Over the next seven years, Ronald streched out the food supplies by dining for one, with all the power and comfort he could want.
That all changed when the exiled men returned. These hunters, as they were now called, adapted to the planet and eventually became feral. They began waging war with Ronald's mechs, stealing guns and killing any of the surviving women who left Ronald's camp. As the war with the hunters began putting pressure on Ronald's security, Ronald realized the only way out alive was to be rescued. He set off the beacon remotely and thought up a weak story to absolve himself of guilt.
In 2185, the Normandy SR-2 came to investigate the distress beacon from the Gernsback. When Jacob confronted his father, who was shocked to see him, he questioned his decisions, and accused him of doing unspeakable things to his crew so he could live in a "juvenile fantasy." Ronald's fate is up to Shepard. He can be turned over to the Alliance courts, left to the mercy of his degenerated crew on Aeia, or given a pistol to kill himself. In any event, Jacob realizes that Ronald is no longer the father he knew.
I'm thinking of buying an HDTV, but it doesn't make sense if I'm only going to be here for 9 more months. I guess I could try to find a used one and then sell it to someone else at the end of my contract.
spoiler (click to show/hide)I just made Jacob's dad commit suicide. :lol[close]
I really enjoy this game, but fuck me the level design and game structure is repetitive as hell.
Its not ideal but then it's about a 1000X times improvement over the original so I can deal. The very differing looks of things made it feel a lot less repetitive than the original.
You react with your gut? I take the paragon options almost all the time, except when the renegade interrupts come up, I can never resist doing those. :lol
I think if I reacted with my gut, I'd end up with 60% Paragon/40% Renegade so I wouldn't be able to resolve impossible situations with Paragon choices because my Paragon bar wouldn't be high enough...
EA/Bioware and Dr. Pepper recently teamed up for a Mass Effect 2 promotion that provides drinkers of the soda the chance to win three DLC items for use in the new game. Those living outside the United States are sadly ineligible for the promotion, and players who just don’t drink the stuff may simply be out of luck.
As it turns out, I have good news. The keys provided in the promotion are completely static and reusable.
The codes are as follows:
CBEEAAA41NWH
CBEEAAAE4L9N
CBEEAAAFQG9J
CBEEAAAE98ZV
To apply these codes to your EA account and redeem the Mass Effect 2 DLC items, simply create an account on Dr Pepper’s Promotion website, fill in whatever fake details you please and simply use an @mailinator.com address for the e-mail field. The site will never ask you to confirm your e-mail address. Once you’ve logged in, simply enter the promotional code and pick “No Purchase” for each of the three fields.
When you’re done, just hit the button to redeem the DLC and log in with your real EA account details, select Mass Effect 2 from the list of games, and finalize your selection.
To redeem the remaining two items, simply repeat the process with a different code and e-mail address for your new DrPepper account, always logging back into your real EA account at the end to claim your item.
No one left behind. :rock :rock :rockspoiler (click to show/hide)Fuck you, Illusive Man. I blew up the Collector Base. I've seen what happens when Cerberus gets its hand on alien technology or organisms - people die, and it's usually humans.[close]
I'm gaining everyone's loyalty right now. When do I get Legion in my crew? No spoilers if possible.very late story mission.
What if I want to play a sensitive guy who also shoots people in the kneecaps?
QuoteWhat if I want to play a sensitive guy who also shoots people in the kneecaps?
You can
QuoteWhat if I want to play a sensitive guy who also shoots people in the kneecaps?
You can
But if almost all of your choices have to go the same way in order to have enough points to defuse an argument late in the game, and if not having enough points means that you lose a crew member's loyalty, and if losing loyalty means this character will die, and if one of the achievements is "keep everyone alive," then the game kinda forces your hand.
The moral of the story is - stand your convictions. Wishy washy two sided bitches dont get happy endings
Dark Horse Comics' four issue comic book series Mass Effect Redemption has been a sales success. The series, which serves as a prequel to the events of Mass Effect 2, will end with its fourth issue on April 7. There's a preview of that final issue at Comic Book Resources.
However the end of Mass Effect Redemption is not the end of BioWare's sci-fi RPG in the comics world. Comic Book Resources attended a Dark Horse Comics panel at the Emerald City Comic-Con this weekend in Seattle where it was revealed that a regular ongoing Mass Effect comic is in the works. The mini-series's writers, Mac Walters and John Jackson Miller, will continue as the writers of the ongoing comic but there's no word on when that series will begin.
QuoteWhat if I want to play a sensitive guy who also shoots people in the kneecaps?
You can
But if almost all of your choices have to go the same way in order to have enough points to defuse an argument late in the game, and if not having enough points means that you lose a crew member's loyalty, and if losing loyalty means this character will die, and if one of the achievements is "keep everyone alive," then the game kinda forces your hand.
You facking nerd, play to the situation and context. Who cares if you don't get an achievement, it's much more fun to play a role and react than to get a stupid achievement.QuoteWhat if I want to play a sensitive guy who also shoots people in the kneecaps?
You can
But if almost all of your choices have to go the same way in order to have enough points to defuse an argument late in the game, and if not having enough points means that you lose a crew member's loyalty, and if losing loyalty means this character will die, and if one of the achievements is "keep everyone alive," then the game kinda forces your hand.
My paragon bar is 4/5 filled and my renegade bar is 3/5 filled. I've never completely gone one way in either game, but I always end up more on the paragon side. People aren't black or white.
You missed a shitload of funny scenarios. My Mass Effect experience is superior to yours. :patelMy paragon bar is 4/5 filled and my renegade bar is 3/5 filled. I've never completely gone one way in either game, but I always end up more on the paragon side. People aren't black or white.
Paragon 5/5, Renegade 1/5 for me. I'm just that good a person. :smug
i think it's 560.
They can still die during the final assault, I think.
So I just realized that Tali is also a love interest? :lol
Will that interfere with Miranda/Jack at all or can Shepherd get with Tali and either of those two?
They can still die during the final assault, I think.
True story. Loyalty only seems to be half of a character's chances of surviving the suicide mission, while the other half is from your character upgrades or simply who you have doing what. I had total loyalty from everyone on my Renegade playthrough, but lost Thane because I used Miranda during the swarm part - Jack died because I didn't upgrade enough of the Normandy and I didn't trust Morinth.
I like that you can have rough sex one time with Jack and not ruin your romance. GOTY
http://www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-4696-Mass-Effect-2-Hammerhead-DLC-Dated;-New-Costume-Pack-Announced.html
Hammerhead on the 23rd, Kasumi on 4th of April.
On closer inspection of the costumes they are LOL. Real homoerotic Matrix style stuff. If they are smart they will include character buffs, then I will buy buy buy. I might buy them anyway as I am a whore for ME2
re: love interests apparently the female shepard can romance the delicious Jacob and caress his huge nubian pecs :hyper
I like that you can have rough sex one time with Jack and not ruin your romance. GOTY
Dude, you can fuck one of your bitches, dump her, fuck the next one, dump her, until you've slept with all your ME2 love interests. Then once you're done with all of them, you can enjoy the ministrations of your yeoman.
Tali rox. Jacob is the worst character.Kaiden > Jacob >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ashley
5 to 10 hours? The game itself was like 35 hours long, dude. It'll never happen. At most, we'll get little one hour bits of content.
Ashley? ASHLEY?! GTFO Himu
5 to 10 hours? The game itself was like 35 hours long, dude. It'll never happen. At most, we'll get little one hour bits of content.
And that's perfectly fine. I just don't have any real interest in playing the game again for the one-offs. I would play something like Awakening for Mass Effect or even something smaller in scope but still more than just a mission but the one-offs just aren't worth it. More power to those that want them though.
:lolAshley? ASHLEY?! GTFO Himu
:lol I told you man. He loves that xenophobic god fearing shit. Wait until she sees his creature from the black lagoon
I always knew you loved white women. :'(:lolAshley? ASHLEY?! GTFO Himu
:lol I told you man. He loves that xenophobic god fearing shit. Wait until she sees his creature from the black lagoon
really? Jacob is an honest, reasonable man of integrity? Why is everyone hating on him? He just wants you to trust him :'(
really? wasnt intending to offend. Jacob is an honest, reasonable man of integrity? Why is everyone hating on him? He just wants you to trust him :'( Best character in ME2
holy fuuuuck, the romance scene between Jacob and female Shepard. :rofl :rofl :rofl
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"Look at thiiiiiiiis - like sneaking into the captain's quarters...heavy risk, but the PRIZE..."
:rofl :rofl :rofl
What was the result of the renegade option?Lol I didn't notice that until now. I dunno. I'm not playing the game when posting online and Shepherd is basically the same name.
Also, why does everyone spell Shepard's name as Shepherd? It's right there on the squad menu, dudes. I've even read reviews that misspell his name. ???
Are you playing on PC? The only gameplay glitch I got was during one of the assignments on Omega. A salarian asked me to pick up some data packages for him on some other locations and bring them back. When I did, I used paragon options to end the quest and got experience and paragon points for it, but it still shows up as an active quest in the menu. Oh well.
Of course, there's always the occasional battle glitch, luckily the game saves often enough that you can resume mid-mission when that happens...still lame, tho.
The other glitch was the subtitle glitch in the last mission. I didn't mind it, but I'm guessing hearing impaired gamers are probably pissed.
PC version can be hacked to have different skins on people. You can have Grunt + Shep sex
PC version can be hacked to have different skins on people. You can have Grunt + Shep sex
Himu 'n me
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Himuro's got no game. :rofl
Owned by renegade Shepard. :rofl :rofl :rofl
[youtube=560,345]poMkCs1-09s[/youtube]:lol :lol :lol
Himuro's got no game. :rofl
Owned by renegade Shepard. :rofl :rofl :rofl
I didn't know Renegade Shepard went all satan in this game.
I didn't know Renegade Shepard went all satan in this game.
Something to do with the scars from the implants they installed to bring you back to life...if your worldview is negative it causes stress to your body which worsens the scarring for some reason.
Just finished it. Holy mother of ass what a fucking awesome game that was. The way the storylines intertwine is totally bonkers insane, I can't even begin to imagine how one would begin laying the framework to make a game like this
Miranda likes it nasty in the engine room, nar nar nar
ASSUMING CONTROL
Grunt escort.
Just beat it and for some reason Mordin died.
EVERYONE was loyal.
Ship fully upgraded.
Tali on ducts.
Garrus fireteam.
Samara biotic.
Grunt escort.
Just beat it and for some reason Mordin died.
EVERYONE was loyal.
Ship fully upgraded.
Tali on ducts.
Garrus fireteam.
Samara biotic.
Grunt escort.
Yeah same thing happened to me. When I thought about it after, it made perfect sense to send him with them. I have no idea why I sent Thane.
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(http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9389/339pxmasseffectjacob.jpg)
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:rofl
I chose Garrus over Jacob, way to make feel like a racist. :P
you can fuck garrus?
you can fuck garrus? isn't his species basically reptilian?
Best dialogues on the Normandy:
Mordin
Legion
Garrus (because of that one story)
Donnelly and Daniels conversations are hilarious too. I loved the one about Tali. :lol
edit: WTF I didn't get the No One Left Behind achievement!?!?:lol
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUU MORDIN DIED SOMEWHERE?!
What garbage, apparently he can die if you leave him in the hold group. Going to have to do this again ::)
Holy crap, that Kanye pic is genius! :rofl
:rofl
I chose Garrus over Jacob, way to make feel like a racist. :P
I did too, but only because I thought I could have my female Shephard lez out with Miranda. :'( At the end Garrus was the only one left for me to have a relationship with and get that achievement.
I'm guessing Mordin won't have a big role in ME3 since everyone says he's the most likely character to die in the final battle.
Great. Because of this dumb thread I had a dream last night about having sex with aliens.
It wasn't pleasant...
:'(
Great. Because of this dumb thread I had a dream last night about having sex with aliens.Mordin told you not to swallow.
It wasn't pleasant...
:'(
Oddly enough it involved Mass Effect 2 aliens but also just general aliens. Like the alien from the movie E.T. (which I've never seen btw)
Is the Cerberus Network down for anybody else? Could someone do me a favor and check? Trying to log onto it to download some shiz but I keep getting error messages.
Are we all still in agreement that Mass Effect 2 is GOTY?
Are we all still in agreement that Mass Effect 2 is GOTY?
what a weeaboo :lol
Sticks and stones may hurt my bones, but in the end you're the scriptwriter of C Me Dance so nothing you say can affect me.
Mass Effect 2 is definitely GOTY so far...Thought you liked Bayonetta
1. ME2
2. God of War 3
3. Heavy Rain
The only game that has a chance of dethroning ME2 will be Mario Galaxy 2, or Gran Turismo 5.
Final Fantasy XIII won't be in my top 10 after the year ends. Bayonetta will maybe be in my top 50. I had more fun with Dante's Inferno than Bayonetta.
I highly doubt for me personally anything will come close to Mass Effect 2 but there is always hoping.
Finished the DLC. It was pretty short and offered nothing that hasn't been seen before. You're not missing much if you pass on it, IMO.
You get Kasumi on your team, a new gun, a new casual outfit, and a new room in your ship (with a bar) for beating it.
I'd be surprised if there's any more DLC after Kasumi. What else can they do? Maybe more missions for the Hammerhead?
Bring Down the Sky was pretty cool.
Finished the DLC. It was pretty short and offered nothing that hasn't been seen before. You're not missing much if you pass on it, IMO.
You get Kasumi on your team, a new gun, a new casual outfit, and a new room in your ship (with a bar) for beating it.
'Continued stream' of Mass Effect 2 DLC planned.
BioWare will tell the story between Mass Effect 2 and Mass Effect 3 with downloadable content packs, VideoGamer.com can reveal.
BioWare has released only one story-based downloadable pack since the January release of Mass Effect 2. The Kasumi - Stolen Memory DLC introduced a new party member and an associated loyalty mission.
The Overlord DLC, due in June, will see Commander Shepard investigate a Cerberus research base home to a hybrid AI.
BioWare intends to release a "continued stream" of DLC, lead producer Casey Hudson told VideoGamer.com as part of a Mass Effect 2 retrospective.
"We have a bunch of packs that are in the works right now," Hudson said.
"So, for the time being there's going to be a continued stream of DLC for people. We'll start to have packs that'll tell the story between Mass Effect 2 and 3. But beyond that we kind of have to see how people are responding to what we have and go from there."
Mass Effect 2 was released in January to critical acclaim. We gave it ten out of ten in our review.
Although BioWare has confirmed that work has begun on the third game in the RPG shooter series, the Canadian developer isn't ready to reveal details on it just yet.
"It probably won't be for quite a few months that we talk about Mass Effect 3," Hudson told us.
That makes an E3 reveal next month highly unlikely.
Earlier this year EA chief operating officer John Schappert said the publisher will release "something far reaching from Mass Effect" in the January through March 2011 quarter.
They fixed the talent points glitch. :(
Mass Effect 2 demo-June 15th
The latest Mass Effect 2 DLC has been revealed, Lair of the Shadow Broker!
Two years ago, Commander Shepard died and Liara T'Soni fought in a desperate struggle against the Shadow Broker to recover her former Commander. Now that Shepard is back, it's time to even the score.
Team up with Liara and confront the mysterious and sinister Shadow Broker in the latest expansion to Mass Effect 2, coming soon! In the mean time check out three new screenshots and stay tuned for more info on Lair of the Shadow Broker.
I'll just wait for the GOTY edition and play all the DLC in one shot.
if im gonna play this DLC then i might as well start it all over againWhy? You can have a romance with anybody in ME 2 no matter who you slept with in the last game. In fact, after the final mission you can go start up a relationship with one conversation, fuck them, and then break up with them to go on to the next one. Did that with Miranda, Jack, and Tali.
gotta play through ME1 so I can accomplish a "No Romance" storyline
then go into ME2 ready for Tali :heart
hopefully they put it on a disk so I can just rent it.I'll just wait for the GOTY edition and play all the DLC in one shot.I'm not gonna buy any of the DLC until they do like a bundle sale on all of it.
So we're finally gonna meet the shadow broker, cool.
So we're finally gonna meet the shadow broker, cool.
The audiofiles to this DLC were already in the Mass Effect 2 disc, someone posted a youtube of the audio files over on Kotaku.
I'll just wait for the GOTY edition and play all the DLC in one shot.
I'm not gonna buy any of the DLC until they do like a bundle sale on all of it.
Why? You can have a romance with anybody in ME 2 no matter who you slept with in the last game. In fact, after the final mission you can go start up a relationship with one conversation, fuck them, and then break up with them to go on to the next one. Did that with Miranda, Jack, and Tali.
I've hit the bottom of the proverbial nerd barrel.
I'm listening to the mass effect audio book for the novel.
:-\
I've hit the bottom of the proverbial nerd barrel.
I'm listening to the mass effect audio book for the novel.
:-\
The next step is writing Babylon 5 fanfic.
Stoney would you recommend those stories?
Adept is... well, that's just gay
I liked Soldier in ME2! I just used my squadmates to do the cool stuff that in turn allowed me to own with my GUNZ.Vanguard biotic dash to shotgun/heavy handgun ownage during slow motion > *
I've hit the bottom of the proverbial nerd barrel.
I'm listening to the mass effect audio book for the novel.
:-\
I just finished Overlord ('twas ok) and now I'm about to start LotSB :rock
Edit: playing as the female Sheppard? nice. I've heard lots of people saying that her VO >>>> male Sheppard's.
Lair Of The Shadowbroker was last, and yes, it really should have been a part of the game from the start.
Lair Of The Shadowbroker was last, and yes, it really should have been a part of the game from the start.
This is my problem with a lot of the DLC.
And is Shadow Broker gonna be the last DLC?
I stopped playing last night after reaching *SPOILERS* the shadow broker's base/ship, I thought that stage was one of most visually impressive parts of the game. Very intense; loved it.
I wonder how far am I into the DLC.
Just bought some more MSbux, need to get Shadow Broker and Overlord... how much time does it take to beat both combined, with all 'cheevos? And is Shadow Broker gonna be the last DLC?
This week’s Xbox Live Deal of the Week is a go, with Mass Effect 2 this week’s main focus.
The deals being offered this week sees premium DLC Overlord and Kasumi’s Stolen Memory go to 400 MS points, with the Blood Dragon Armor and a suit for 160 MS points.
You can get a helmet as well for 80 MS points.
Deal’s only for Gold members only.
awesome right when my gold membership expiresI can give you the code to my 2 day gold pass that came with Halo Reach if you want.
awesome right when my gold membership expiresI can give you the code to my 2 day gold pass that came with Halo Reach if you want.
RISE FROM YOUR GRAVE
Oh my gawd. This game is fuck awesome, and it's beautiful on my rig.
Only complaint- my stoopit ass can't figure out how to get it to let me use my 360 controller. Anyone got any insight?
Who else agrees that Mass Effect 2 has the best DLC's of any console game.
Get the others GR, they are worth it.
I definitely find the DLC better than the game itself.
How is the DLC incorporated into the game? Like, I just bought ME2 and haven't started it yet -- should I get the DLC episodes now or just wait and play them after the campaign is concluded?
How is the DLC incorporated into the game? Like, I just bought ME2 and haven't started it yet -- should I get the DLC episodes now or just wait and play them after the campaign is concluded?
Mass Effect 2 for the PlayStation 3 goes on sale in stores on January 18th in North America, and will also be available in downloadable form through the PlayStation Network in North America on January 18th.
good job sir
and wtf i did EVERY SINGLE MISSION on hardcore and im still only lvl 29! is there someplace to grind exp?
Looks like it will be. This fucking sucks.Happened to me. Did you import your character from your first ME2 playthrough? When you do that the enemies are the matched to your level, making it very difficult. You need to play Insanity with a fresh new character or import from ME1. I learned the hard way as well.
I can get through the first 3-4 platforms more times than not, but eventually Shepard decides to fucking stand up for no reason and then I get insta-killed. Meanwhile my teammates are doing that nonstop throughout so I can't even use my powers because I am busy using heal on their stupid asses.
This is horrific. I've spent close to 20 hours getting along just fine on Insanity and I have to give it up here?
ok did it
Looks like it will be. This fucking sucks.
I can get through the first 3-4 platforms more times than not, but eventually Shepard decides to fucking stand up for no reason and then I get insta-killed. Meanwhile my teammates are doing that nonstop throughout so I can't even use my powers because I am busy using heal on their stupid asses.
This is horrific. I've spent close to 20 hours getting along just fine on Insanity and I have to give it up here?
ok did it
Happened to me. Did you import your character from your first ME2 playthrough? When you do that the enemies are the matched to your level, making it very difficult. You need to play Insanity with a fresh new character or import from ME1. I learned the hard way as well.If you import a character, you can max out certain skills like incinerate or ammo powers from the beginning which would make it easier to take down the 2-3 levels of barriers, armor, and shields that enemies have on Insanity.
good job sir
and wtf i did EVERY SINGLE MISSION on hardcore and im still only lvl 29! is there someplace to grind exp?
You can't hit the cap in your first playthrough.
good job sir
and wtf i did EVERY SINGLE MISSION on hardcore and im still only lvl 29! is there someplace to grind exp?
You can't hit the cap in your first playthrough.
I hit 30 just fine. I did import from ME1, which starts you at Level 5, afaik.
good job sir
and wtf i did EVERY SINGLE MISSION on hardcore and im still only lvl 29! is there someplace to grind exp?
You can't hit the cap in your first playthrough.
I hit 30 just fine. I did import from ME1, which starts you at Level 5, afaik.
Having played well into the game, the overall feeling is that both versions have their ups and downs during the run of play, especially in the interactive cut-scenes, where the sudden jarring differences in frame-rate are perhaps most noticeable. However, it is difficult to avoid the conclusion that the original Xbox 360 version of Mass Effect 2 has a performance advantage overall, especially during the exploration and combat sections.
Team xbox making up shit again. Look at the pictures you can clearly see it looks better and plays better. Do you not have eyes?
A GREAT GAME PLAYS BETTER WHEN IT LOOKS BETTER AND HAS BETTER LIGHTNING
The tweaked lighting is the biggest differentiating factor and in our opinion it is rather hit and miss: BioWare talks about revising it to make the game brighter, but while some scenes undoubtedly benefit from the revised light positions, in many other cases some of the wonderful, nuanced texture work on the original game seems quite flat in comparison. The sense we had from the demo that the lighting is sometimes inconsistent carries across into the full game too, where it sometimes seems as if the positioning of the light sources even seems to change mid-scene.
The PS3 game doesn't feel especially clearer or more vibrant, but there's a definite sense that it's rather more inconsistent than it was before, to the point where the lighting in the occasional scene just doesn't seem logical. In other cases, there are changes but they are subtler - a slight tweak to the ambient lighting level, perhaps.
The overall impression is that BioWare's work on the art has been outstanding, and in motion there's very little in the way of difference whatsoever.
sfags seem pretty busy today
http://www.examiner.com/video-game-community-in-boston/ign-s-unfair-reviewing-rears-its-ugly-head-again (http://www.examiner.com/video-game-community-in-boston/ign-s-unfair-reviewing-rears-its-ugly-head-again)
I dont see why Team Xbot has to use words and shit when the fucking EVIDENCE is RIGHT THERE INFRONT OF YOUR FAT XBOT FACES. the game LOOKS Better the character slook BETTER asaris look better so you get to have sex with hotter women how is this bad? o ya xbots are lonely cheeto dust nerds who havve to spread fud to seem vindicated that their system SUCKS
Demi can I paypal $5 to ban him?
Demi can I paypal $5 to ban him?
great rumbler teamxbot is this message board since it's pretty much teamxbox.com
because team xbot refuses to acknowledge something is better on another system. I.E. Portal 2.
"Requires at least 24GB of free hard drive space to download & install."
PSN strikes againHow is that possible? The game only takes 12GB to install from the bluray according to eurogamer.Quote"Requires at least 24GB of free hard drive space to download & install."
I don't get why they made the game brighter, I thought ME2 had this moody blade runnerish thing going on.From blu-ray,yes.PSN strikes againHow is that possible? The game only takes 12GB to install from the bluray according to eurogamer.Quote"Requires at least 24GB of free hard drive space to download & install."
BioWare fucked up one thing. In the PC and Xbox 360 version, the picture on Shepard's desk is of the love interest from the first game. In the PS3 version, no matter who you choose in the digital comic; it's always Kaiden.
teamxbot is the term given to xbot fanboys.
BioWare fucked up one thing. In the PC and Xbox 360 version, the picture on Shepard's desk is of the love interest from the first game. In the PS3 version, no matter who you choose in the digital comic; it's always Kaiden.
BioWare fucked up one thing. In the PC and Xbox 360 version, the picture on Shepard's desk is of the love interest from the first game. In the PS3 version, no matter who you choose in the digital comic; it's always Kaiden.
BioWare fucked up one thing. In the PC and Xbox 360 version, the picture on Shepard's desk is of the love interest from the first game. In the PS3 version, no matter who you choose in the digital comic; it's always Kaiden.
Is this even if you're a male Shepard?
http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/3901/comparisonmp4snapshot07.jpg (http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/3901/comparisonmp4snapshot07.jpg)
Why is everything so warped in that PS3 shot?
Just did the Kasumi DLC. It was great! The bad guy was South African which had me in stitches.
if i could fuck any video game character it would be kasumi
dat azz
Can we change the name of the game to 'Matrix Effect' ;)
Just completed Overloadspoiler (click to show/hide)that was super fucked up, especially the ending >:([close]
that looks like a Deal With DLC pack.
It starts out really fucking terrible but once you get to the last part it kicks it into awesome overdrive.
Overlord is def my favorite ME2 DLC. Loved the directory the story went and the end was great.
beat Shadow Broker on Insanity. DLC was so boner. Got some phat gamerscore too. Only cheevos I have left are Level 30 and beat the game on Insanity, which I will unlock soon.
Also finished the Firewalker DLC, wasn't terrible but I'm glad it was free! Wasn't bad for a nice little EXP boost.
Currently on the Collector ship tearing them a new one. Sometimes I wish those Harbingers would shut up :lol "You feel this", "My attacks will tear you apart", "We are your destiny", "You feel this", "You feel this", evey three seconds. It's kinda funny I guess.
The Cerberus Network is hinting at more DLC coming soon, wonder what it is?
there's supposed to be one more dlc later in the year to lead into me3
and werent the graphics in shadow broker so boss? the last level looked FUCKING INSANE when yr ouside
BioWare has acknowledged a problem affecting game saves in its recently-released PlayStation 3 version of Mass Effect 2.
Posters on the developer’s official forums are complaining that game saves are becoming corrupted, with some players losing 30 hours of progress through the sci-fi epic which finally launched on PS3 last week, almost a year after its Xbox 360 and Windows debut.
Some users are even reporting not just corrupted saves, but entire systems, with hard disks becoming corrupted and needing reformatting.
“Just to make it clear, we are aware of this issue and are working to understand what is occurring and how we can fix it,” wrote BioWare’s Chris Priestly. “If you are encountering this issue, please provide details about your PS3 and your playthrough.”
http://www.next-gen.biz/news/bioware-aware-of-ps3-mass-effect-2-save-bug (http://www.next-gen.biz/news/bioware-aware-of-ps3-mass-effect-2-save-bug)QuoteBioWare has acknowledged a problem affecting game saves in its recently-released PlayStation 3 version of Mass Effect 2.
Posters on the developer’s official forums are complaining that game saves are becoming corrupted, with some players losing 30 hours of progress through the sci-fi epic which finally launched on PS3 last week, almost a year after its Xbox 360 and Windows debut.
Some users are even reporting not just corrupted saves, but entire systems, with hard disks becoming corrupted and needing reformatting.
“Just to make it clear, we are aware of this issue and are working to understand what is occurring and how we can fix it,” wrote BioWare’s Chris Priestly. “If you are encountering this issue, please provide details about your PS3 and your playthrough.”
Insanity mode is no longer fun. I put it down for a week and now I'm still trawling through this fucking collector ship. I'm sick of enemies with respawning health that stroll right up to you and instantly kill you.
I do not have the firepower to put these guys down before they reach me, even with all three of us focus firing. Fuck up once and you have to replay 10 minutes of combat.
kasumi iso ne piece of ass but fuck her "HAHA" and "NOW YOU SEE ME" emotes
kasumi iso ne piece of ass but fuck her "HAHA" and "NOW YOU SEE ME" emotes
Fuck all the emotes in ME2.
I beat it 8)
I am an Infiltrator. I had Garrus and Miranda though. They fucking died constantly.
Should I have Kasumi with me at all times?
How hard is Shadow Broker? Should I do every other available mission before that to buff my dudes up?
Kasumi's the best. Seriously people, ME2 DLC > ME2. That SMG in Stolen Memory is the bee's knees.
you are fucking kidding me
i need to get me2 ps3 asap
you are fucking kidding me
i need to get me2 ps3 asap
you are fucking kidding me
i need to get me2 ps3 asap
you are fucking kidding me
i need to get me2 ps3 asap
you're that keen to brick your system? :lol
Isn't the patch out today?
what is this about bricking
BioWare began collecting data from affected users shortly after the problem became known and now says that a patch is in testing and should be ready to deliver to Sony by Friday for verification and distribution. As well as fixing the save-game bug, the update will also slightly improve load times and level streaming, fix some spelling mistakes, make sure the right love interest picture is on display in Shepard's cabin and straighten out a few other small errors.
BioWare Community Manager Chris Priestly wrote that while "data and telemetry have shown that very few people have seen this issue," a workaround has been developed to ensure that everyone can continue playing the game without fear of losing hours and hours of gameplay. "Simply restart your game every few hours," he said. "By shutting down and restarting your game, you will not encounter the corrupted save issue."
So what advanced training skill should I do for Shepard? I have
Disruptor Ammo lvl2
Cryo Ammo lvl1
Tactical Cloak lvl3
Incinerate lvl2
AI Hacking lvl1
Assassin lvl4
Squad Warp Ammo lvl4
So what advanced training skill should I do for Shepard? I have
Disruptor Ammo lvl2
Cryo Ammo lvl1
Tactical Cloak lvl3
Incinerate lvl2
AI Hacking lvl1
Assassin lvl4
Squad Warp Ammo lvl4
I love this game. Makes me really sad that we're not getting another single player KOTOR.
Stupid MMO.
I love this game. Makes me really sad that we're not getting another single player KOTOR.
Stupid MMO.
Oh it's single player. You just have to pay BioWare $15 a month for access to the game and buy your items from a cash shop.
Yeah, I mean you don't have to, but it has dialogue differences if you beat it.
spoiler (click to show/hide)WELL NOW HUMANITY AND THE GETH HAVE NO HOPE OF RECONCILLING GOOD JOB MISTER GUNDAM[close]
What role did you give to the character who died? Put him in the pipes while loyal and I don't think it's possible for him to die.
I just beat it on Insanity, got the last of the cheevs, saved all the crewmembers. 38:50
I played through the Project Overlord DLC last night, that was awesome! Finished up all the loyalty missions and ready to do that IFF mission. Looks like I'm gearing up for the endgame.Yep. Highly recommended. I will be the perfect bowtie for the ME2 experience--until the final DLC is released, which is still pending.
I've left Lair of the Shadowbroker for after I complete the main campaign. Good idea?
I played through the Project Overlord DLC last night, that was awesome! Finished up all the loyalty missions and ready to do that IFF mission. Looks like I'm gearing up for the endgame.Yep. Highly recommended. I will be the perfect bowtie for the ME2 experience--until the final DLC is released, which is still pending.
I've left Lair of the Shadowbroker for after I complete the main campaign. Good idea?
Edit: Looks like you've beat it already!
Are there spoilers?
lol this DLC wont be more than a couple of hours long, I'm gonna download and it beat it as soon as it comes out.
The final achievement total is 1355 which is a bit stupid but I don't really give a shit because I'll have THEM ALL.
Maybe there will be some more DLC leading up to ME3 but I think they said this is the last lot.
I still haven't gotten Kasumi and Overlord, are either really worth getting?
Or should I just got all in and get Kasumi, Overlord, and Arrival, then blast through the rest of the game?
kasumi is alright. may be worth it since she's great in combat.
overlord is my favorite dlc so far (over shadow broker). pretty lengthy and has some variety.
I still haven't gotten Kasumi and Overlord, are either really worth getting?
Or should I just got all in and get Kasumi, Overlord, and Arrival, then blast through the rest of the game?
Both Kasumi and Overlord are awesome, so yes, they're worth getting. You get a little more usable content out of Kasumi's, but Overlord's plot is, in many ways, better than the main game's.
I still haven't gotten Kasumi and Overlord, are either really worth getting?
Or should I just got all in and get Kasumi, Overlord, and Arrival, then blast through the rest of the game?
Both Kasumi and Overlord are awesome, so yes, they're worth getting. You get a little more usable content out of Kasumi's, but Overlord's plot is, in many ways, better than the main game's.
It is quite similar to the film "The Lawnmower Man" though
one hammerhead level? Theres like 6
The free Hammerhead DLC was kinda bland, Overlord was pretty cool (reminded me of a much better version of an ME1 subquest), but Kasumi and Shadow Broker were my favorites. Shadow Broker due to plot reveals, and I loved the scenery of the mansion in Kasumi's, and the whole "infiltrating the party" bit.
I have every ME2 achievement so far except the "Beat the game on Insane". Will be getting the Arrival DLC on release, shame it's a short one but hopefully it will be priced accordingly.
one hammerhead level? Theres like 6
oh yeah i was thinking of the vehicle from the overlord dlc. didnt play the hammerhead missions.
The last stand seems pretty rough with my load out.
Also this subplot seems pretty hokey so far, I hope it gets better before this is over
The last stand seems pretty rough with my load out.
Also this subplot seems pretty hokey so far, I hope it gets better before this is over
switch to Casual difficulty ;) thats what I did :lol It was 1.30 in the morning and I just wanted to bust that cheev
Storywise, it was hokey when it wasn't thin as paper. Very disappointing. Even the writing and voice acting seemed phoned in.
Somebody said this wasn't done by the regular me2 team. I believe it.
Who's that guy supposed to be? ???
DA has always been < ME, so this is nothing new. BioWare is obviously focusing their efforts where it matters.
Honestly I wish they would take their time with Mass Effect 3 (3 year dev time) but I'll just have to hope the third one does the series justice. I'm not sure why EA is rushing so much lately this gen. Even COD games get 24 months (2 full years). I don't like EA shortchanging on that cycle.
Wasn't too crazy about the latest download pack, Shadow Broker and Kasumi are still my favorites. Overlord wasn't bad but the Hammerhead stuff was kinda boring and that whole weird crazy Autistic guy plot was just like all "WTF?".
Got my new Game Informer, read the ME3 article. Game starts with Shepard on Earth, effectively on trial in regard to the events of Arrival, and in the middle of the trial, the Reapers invade. Prologue involves Shepard's escape to the Normandy, and off to start finding those allies, fighting Reaper troops (husks of all the different species) the whole way.
Confirmed squadmates: Liara, Ashley/Kaiden, Garrus (if he's alive) and... James Sanders... That must be the guy from the trailer, I don't remember.
Speaking of which, there's a screenshot of Ashley with her hair down, and she actually looks hot. Don't have a scanner, so wait till someone with one turns up.
Confirmed to appear, but not guaranteed as squaddies: Wrex, Mordin, Legion, and Anderson. Obviously, if they live.
The game will by default feature a "previously on Mass Effect" comic to make decisions with if starting from scratch.
The Illusive Man also plays a prominent role, and Cerberus is out to kill Shepard. Reason why is unknown at this point.
The RPG elements are being beefed up, not going back to ME1, but giving more freedom with the character skills. Skill trees will be larger, and powers will evolve several times instead of just once, offering even more freedom. Weapons are ME2 style, with a set list, but mods make a return, not in the ME1 style, but allowing you to swap out different parts such as barrels, scopes, and so on, which effect both the weapon's combat performance and its appearance.
All classes can wield all weapons unhindered now, but will have limited slots to carry them. Only the Soldier can carry all weapons at once. Probably means Adept, Engineer, and Sentinal will be limited to two, and Vanguard and Infiltrator will have three.
Also mentioned: The game will have numerous endings, some good, some bad, and who you have in your squad and which allies you recruit can have a drastic effect on which are available.
That's basically the gist of it, except for the sidebars filled with stuff everyone already knows.
The RPG elements are being beefed up, not going back to ME1, but giving more freedom with the character skills. Skill trees will be larger, and powers will evolve several times instead of just once, offering even more freedom. Weapons are ME2 style, with a set list, but mods make a return, not in the ME1 style
QuoteThe RPG elements are being beefed up, not going back to ME1, but giving more freedom with the character skills. Skill trees will be larger, and powers will evolve several times instead of just once, offering even more freedom. Weapons are ME2 style, with a set list, but mods make a return, not in the ME1 style
So Bioware didn't learn. They continue to make the non-RPG RPG.
The problem with ME1 wasn't the presence of RPG elements but rather that presence of VERY POORLY IMPLEMENTED RPG elements along with an awful menu/item system.
I prefer it as an action game with dialogue, character interaction, and choice making.
I like the action bits of it to be action rather than whatever the original was trying to go for. Now that doesn't mean you can't add in some light rpg trappings to customize it a bit more but like I said I much prefer the design approach of ME 2.
Sure, ME2 had much more in terms of action... but dialogue, character interaction and choice making took a heavy drop compared to ME1.
I thought it was the other way around
I thought the first one was all wonder and culture and the second was setpieces and cowboys
Miranda :'( And by that I mean, dat ass :'(
HQ scans
http://community.livejournal.com/masseffect/938886.html (http://community.livejournal.com/masseffect/938886.html)
Mass Effect 3 will be released in the first three months of 2012. The development team is laser focused on making sure Mass Effect 3 is the biggest, boldest and best game in the series, ensuring that it exceeds everyone’s expectations.” - Casey Hudson, Executive Producer Mass Effect series
Delayed,2011 ruinedQuoteMass Effect 3 will be released in the first three months of 2012. The development team is laser focused on making sure Mass Effect 3 is the biggest, boldest and best game in the series, ensuring that it exceeds everyone’s expectations.” - Casey Hudson, Executive Producer Mass Effect series
MEH
:piss
I never did believe it was coming out this year. I welcome the delay. I hope they take as long with it as possible.
"This franchise is a personal favorite of mine," said EA CEO John Riccitiello of the BioWare-developed conclusion to the epic sci-fi trilogy.
"One of the things the team up at Edmonton has done is...essentially adjust some of the gameplay mechanics and some of the features, which you'll see at E3, that can...essentially address a far larger market opportunity [than Mass Effect 1 or 2]."
According to EA's Frank Gibeau, the now-delayed game's E3 presence will reveal "some feature innovation and some new ways to play."
Quote"This franchise is a personal favorite of mine," said EA CEO John Riccitiello of the BioWare-developed conclusion to the epic sci-fi trilogy.
"One of the things the team up at Edmonton has done is...essentially adjust some of the gameplay mechanics and some of the features, which you'll see at E3, that can...essentially address a far larger market opportunity [than Mass Effect 1 or 2]."
According to EA's Frank Gibeau, the now-delayed game's E3 presence will reveal "some feature innovation and some new ways to play."
Quote"This franchise is a personal favorite of mine," said EA CEO John Riccitiello of the BioWare-developed conclusion to the epic sci-fi trilogy.
"One of the things the team up at Edmonton has done is...essentially adjust some of the gameplay mechanics and some of the features, which you'll see at E3, that can...essentially address a far larger market opportunity [than Mass Effect 1 or 2]."
According to EA's Frank Gibeau, the now-delayed game's E3 presence will reveal "some feature innovation and some new ways to play."
"adjust some gameplay mechanics and some of the features" = take out skill points, dialog options, and exploration, game is now totally linear and features unlimited enemy spawns until you pass a certain point.
games gonna be great; quit crying when u dont even know details
Mass Effect 2 re-invented the series in a lot of ways that made more sense. I don't think Dragon Age 2 did. Therefore I have a bit more confidence and faith in the Mass Effect team. Not to mention they've had more time.
I welcome the delay. I hope they take as long with it as possible.
-Tali is a confirmed squadmate
"Garrus, Liara, Kaidan, Ashley and (newly confirmed) Tali are all full
time members of your team if they survived the previous games."
-Wrex?
"I asked point blank about Wrex and got as close to a 'no' as I think Bioware will come at this early stage: exceutive producer Casey Hudson simply re-emphasised that such characters canplay a role and fight alongside you without necessarily being permanent squad members."
-No new Romance in ME3
-Biotics are more potent in combat
"Biotics can use their Pull ability to rip a shield out of someone's hands"
-Multi Layered combat areas
"The games combat spaces have graduated from the often-familiar open areas dotted with low walls. They're now multi layed encouraging you to seek high ground for a better vantage point...[the rest is about Cerberus rocket boot dudes using this to their advantage]
-class Specific Melee attacks
Engineer: Omni-tool fire lash attack
Adept: Melee (biotic) attack that knocks everyone near them away and stuns
-Powers Evolve more than once
"In ME3 this is just the start. A Vanguard player can customise their devastating Charge move first to slam people harder, then do more damage, then to reduce the cooldown.
-Powers combine
Example given with Soldier: "Soldier still has an arcing attack called Concussive Shot, but it now behaves differently depending on the ammo ugrade he/she is using. Cryo ammo lets you use that same trajectory to deliver a blast of ice that canfreeze every enemy in the area."
-Story is more like ME1 than ME2
-Places being visited (at least what the Magazine reports):
[...]mission takes you to the Salarian homeworld, the Quarian homeworld, the Asari homeworld, and the human homeworld - Earth. You'll even go to Mars [...]
-Every major character you have met will play a role in the last game
-Why is Cerberus after Shepard? They are working with the Reapers
"If your wondering why we were fighting Cerberus, having worked closely with this shadowy organisation in Mass Effect 2, the answer just raises further questions. They are wokring with the Reapers"
-Reaperized enemies include Asari, Krogan, Rachni
"In Mass Effect 3 we'll fight the Reapers other experiments, with other species.
One is a hideously bloated pregnant Asari, her gums stripped away and a robot skeleton showing through her rotting flesh"
"The Reapers take on the Rachni, who were already viscious insect monsters,are covered with bulging savs of lesser creatures. Rather than hitting their weak spot for massive damage, you want to avoid it like the plague: bursting any of these sacs before the creature is dead wit will unleash a swarm of horrible mini-rachni that crawl all over your body"
"The Reaperised Krogan wears heavy armor plates that can shear off with enough focused fire. Once you do the creature changes its behaviour to be more defensive clutching its lurid blue intestines to its stomach as its lumbers towards you"
"One Reaper creature draws life force from anything that dies near it.
The time-honoured strategy of taking out the easy enemies first ends up
being counter-productive: you make the creature stronger than it would
have been with its allies alive."
Casey Hudson summarizing ME3 (This is an article quote):
"Casey sums up Mass Effect 3 as being about victory through sacrifice, the scale of that sacrifice has been increasing with each new chapter" [Rest is authors speculation about saving(or not saving) Wrex and Rachni consequences]
Originally Posted by Nirolak:
Here are a few more quotes from the article about combat.
"To deal with the last few elites, Shepard [using the freezing concussion shot] freezes them solid to hold them still, then lines up sniper shots exactly through the eye-slits in their shields."
"Put a shield in front of an enemy, and suddenly the ability of the engineer class to place a combat drone behind someone and blow it up gains a new significance. Namely, knocking a guy on his face and shooting him in the head."
"Shepard commando-rolls out of the elite's way - a new move, by the way - and sneaks behind a partition running alongside the main corridor. Liara springs out of cover and pins the elite with a biotic singularity, while Garrus snipes him from cover. Neither kills the elite, but now Shepard is behind him. Rather than fire, he lashes out with his omni-tool, which emits a blade of flame that cuts through the elite's exposed back. He drops."
Originally Posted by Nirolak:
This preview mentions that 70% of people weren't faithful to their ME1 romance, and that this will come back to bite them.
This preview mentions that 70% of people weren't faithful to their ME1 romance, and that this will come back to bite them.Noooooooo... this had better just be hilarious and not total romance failure sadness :'( My Shepard also re-banged Liara in shadow broker, but she's pretty spooky now, and Tali was so eager :drool
More alien girl on girl action.
Shepard vs Cerberus
According to Xbox World Magazine, the game will contain fewer squad mates this time around as the developers though that 12 was just too many.
“Twelve was a big number in Mass Effect 2 – almost too big”, said Casey Hudson. “We’re focused on a smaller squad with deeper relationships and more interesting interplay in Mass Effect 3. We’re not going to have twelve again but we are going to do more with the characters on your squad including Liara, and Kaidan or Ashley. And we’re bringing everyone back – every main character is in Mass Effect 3 somewhere.”
Characters in the game have had their appearance updated by the same team which created the original characters. Each player will mature a bit especially in the armor department and Garrus’ armor was used as one such example. Shepard has changed quite a a bit as well, especially compared to how his armor appeared in Mass Effect 1. Cerberus heavy troopers will be sporting massive armour, while Assassins will use the same Biotics as Shepard.
Things have changed with Cerberus as well, and it was noted that no matter how you finished Mass Effect 2, Cerberus are now your enemy. Shepard is unsure why at the beginning why Cerberus is sending commandos after him, but he will discover the reason later in the game when the Illusive Man returns.
“You were begrudgingly working for Cerberus in ME2,” said Hudson, “but they’ve gone a bit further and Shepard has returned to the Alliance so Cerberus troops are a major threat.”
“Cerberus Troopers can do everything that Shepard can do now,” added designer Corey Gaspur. “So your fighting a force that’s a lot more punishing.”
“We wanted to make it so that when the player’s fighting in the moment they feel like they have more options than aiming shooting and using powers,” added lead gameplay designer Christina Norman. “We really want to make mobility a factor that plays into combat. You’ll always ask yourself: “Am I in the right position on the battlefield? Where are my enemies? How am I going to get from point A to point B?’
“Players should never be walking into these safe places with great cover and stay there for the whole fight. It’s about how you’re going to move through the battlefield as the enemies through the battefield move through the battlefield and how they’re reacting to one another and to you.”
Location, location, location
While previous article on locations in the game have been talked about already, BioWare confirmed in Xbox World that the Turian homeworld of Palaven and the Quarian homeworld of Rannoch will be new destinations early on in Mass Effect 3.
Players will also be making a return to Tuchanka, and even go on mining missions on a Martian crater, but it will be the cities of Earth which will really standout as the game’s “showpiece locations.”
“The Seatle/Vancouver megacity on the west coast of North America is a truly gigantic space which Shepard will visit before and after the Reapers take it apart,” said level artist Don Arceta. “If you Google Map Vancouver, the layout is pretty much the exact same as our map. Geographically, it’s very true to the real world.
“You play a game like Gears or War and they just have sandbags everywhere, and we really don’t want to do that. We really want to get away from arbitrary things placed just for the people working there, and we’re just trying to really make sense of these spaces. We try to design the arhitecture first before we blow it up, like, really thinking about how did they actually design this building, and does it function well.”
Levels in the game are large, and need to be because players will be participating in a boss fight against a six hundred foot Reaper. The spaces also need to be large so that Shepard can pilot his fifty foot Cerberus Atlas mech later on in the game.
“I think Lair of the Shadow Broker is a good look at how we design levels now,” said Hudson. “It’s all about sudden shifts in the action. There’s a section on Earth where you’re running a narrow walkway and there’s a war going on all around you and a ship is in the distance. Suddenly its nuclear core blows up and its suchs a shockwave that it knocks you off the walkway and you end up sliding down the glass face of a knocked over high-rise and then you kind of roll and catch yourself and all that happens in a moment of gameplay.
“You have control thoughout and that’s when you’ll realise annything could happen at any time.”
According to the development team, the utter scale of Mass Effect 3, including every fight and every enemy, is bigger than anything ever rendered in the Mass Effect universe or by “the Unreal Engine before.”
For the fans
Players new to the Mass Effect universe and just starting out with ME3 can expect to be caught up rather quickly at the beginning of the game.
According to Hudson, the team will implement something similar to what PS3 users received with ME2, but it may not be the same “comic style,” of prequel.
“We’ll do something in the same style to recap the story”, said Hudson. “It’s essentially a really fancy save game generator. The challenge is to make the game better than ever before, to make it a great entry point for new players, and to make it the ending fans deserve. It’s about making sure it starts the way a great story should start versus just being a continuation.
“And thats tough because there is no canon except for what the player has chosen. In the end, its their game.”
God, I want this game now.
God, I want this game now.
More alien girl on girl action, or...???