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Post by: Borys on January 07, 2010, 02:00:17 PM
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Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: duckman2000 on January 07, 2010, 02:02:28 PM
So they are being ordered to be more like IW and basically build a campaign around key scenes borrowed from classic Vietnam movies. Unsurprising. It will probably be pretty alright, though. We'll see how popular a Vietnam war can be.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: Beezy on January 07, 2010, 02:02:47 PM
Pass. Again.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 07, 2010, 02:03:02 PM
I'm no fan of Treyarch but it wouldn't be "rushed". Its had a two year dev cycle like the previous game World at War and most games that come out. World at War came out in Fall 2008.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: Himu on January 07, 2010, 02:05:09 PM
Pass. Wake me up for MW3.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: Himu on January 07, 2010, 02:07:52 PM
WaW =/
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 07, 2010, 02:10:36 PM
Yeah ok I forgot that they got 2 full years of dev. AND a rock-solid engine AND rock-solid tools.

2 years seems enough in that scenario but it's Treyarch zzzzzzzzzzzzz. I never finished WaW, bored me to tears.



World at War did a lot of little small things on the gameplay side that turned me off from ever buying it. I played the beta and decided to pass. Plus it was World War 2 which I generally have no interest in ever revisiting again. And Zombi Nazi mode does nothing for me. I prefer something like Spec Ops mode.

A Vietnam era game does interest me more so there is increased attention from me on that aspect but I'll have to hear they haven't done any dumb stuff on the gameplay side for me to pick it up.

Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 07, 2010, 02:11:08 PM
Oh boy I'm sure they will milk that controversy for all it's worth

I want CoD FUTURE WARS where you fight on the space shuttle with lazers
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: Crushed on January 07, 2010, 02:12:23 PM
so it's going to be EA Presents: Modern Warfare against Treyarch's Vietnam Game for 2010.

That will be interesting.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: Brehvolution on January 07, 2010, 02:13:06 PM
Oh boy I'm sure they will milk that controversy for all it's worth

I want CoD FUTURE WARS where you fight on the space shuttle with lazers


:hyper :drool
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: ManaByte on January 07, 2010, 02:25:33 PM
Vietnam is the kiss of death for any FPS genre.

Ask EA how Battlefield Vietnam did.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: Jansen on January 07, 2010, 02:27:54 PM
in a lot of ways waw is better than mw2 (better maps, balance, nazi zombies, local search) so i'm looking forward to this.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: ManaByte on January 07, 2010, 02:29:06 PM
in a lot of ways waw (better maps, balance, local search) is better than mw2 so i'm looking forward to this.

I agree with this. But Vietnam isn't popular. People don't like playing a game where they lose the war.

Achievement Unlocked - Tuck and Run 100g!
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 07, 2010, 02:29:13 PM
Vietnam is the kiss of death for any FPS genre.

Ask EA how Battlefield Vietnam did.

People said WW2 was the kiss of death after COD 4 hit and World at War dropped and it sold better than COD 4 did at launch. This game may or may not be good but I doubt the sales will have anything to do with it necessarily being Vietnam.

The sales will mostly come from the Call of Duty name itself and the good experiences that the mass of consumers have enjoyed with the brand.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: ManaByte on January 07, 2010, 02:29:44 PM
Vietnam is the kiss of death for any FPS genre.

Ask EA how Battlefield Vietnam did.

Bad Company, Bad Company 2 and 1943 own your silly theory :lol

Bad Company, Bad Company 2 are modern and 1943 is WWII.

Battlefield Vietnam BOMBED big time.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: drew on January 07, 2010, 02:34:07 PM
 :hyper
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: drew on January 07, 2010, 02:39:07 PM
haters gonna hate
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 07, 2010, 02:39:20 PM
Vietnam seems right up the dudebro alliance's alley
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: drew on January 07, 2010, 02:40:04 PM
you dont even play videogames

why dont you go listen to some nas or something
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 07, 2010, 02:44:57 PM
Rushed?  All CoD games get 2 years...

Really? Because a new CoD game comes out every year. :smug
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on January 07, 2010, 02:52:58 PM
Treyarch :lol

I know someone who used to work for Treyarch. No surprise that he's the suicidal type.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: treythemovie on January 07, 2010, 03:23:06 PM
Personally I can't wait for this. I'm sure they'll take a realistic approach like always; burning down innocent villages, watching your buddies get killed off from guerilla warfare and, of course, the cliffhanger where you return home only to get spit upon and live out your days with depression and severe paranoia.  :hyper
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: Raban on January 07, 2010, 03:25:17 PM
Don't war games about Vietnam have a terrible-sales curse? Or have they all actually been shit?
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: ManaByte on January 07, 2010, 03:25:28 PM
Personally I can't wait for this. I'm sure they'll take a realistic approach like always; burning down innocent villages, watching your buddies get killed off from guerilla warfare and, of course, the cliffhanger where you return home only to get spit upon and live out your days with depression and severe paranoia.  :hyper

The sequel has the main character getting harassed by some asshole cops and taking them out one by one in the forest.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: Brehvolution on January 07, 2010, 03:37:20 PM
Please make it like Platoon.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: ManaByte on January 07, 2010, 03:39:43 PM
Please make it like Platoon.

Oh I'm sure the training level will be right out of the first half of Full Metal Jacket. Then you'll have Platoon levels, and it'll end in an urban environment out of Full Metal Jacket again.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on January 07, 2010, 04:02:00 PM
Snap. I called it. This could be pretty sweet.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on January 07, 2010, 04:10:59 PM
Vietnam war game?  AWESOME! (http://i40.tinypic.com/mkhyko.jpg)
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 07, 2010, 04:44:24 PM
Day one. World at War was a better multiplayer title than CoD4, I'm sure Vietnam will be better than MW2.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: ManaByte on January 07, 2010, 05:04:57 PM
IW is total fail for not putting controllable vehicles in MW2 multi.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 07, 2010, 05:08:00 PM
I'll wait for the Jane Fonda DLC mission.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: drew on January 07, 2010, 05:18:23 PM
IW is total fail for not putting controllable vehicles in MW2 multi.

lol

no
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: duckman2000 on January 07, 2010, 05:30:53 PM
fuck Platoon, they should just have you play as some poor sod under Frank Castle's command.

:bow The Punisher Born :bow2
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 07, 2010, 05:46:42 PM
man, i have zero interest in a vietnam game

too bad, i like treyarch, they supported the hell out of WaW on PC

i was kind of hoping between medal of honor or treyarch COD one of them would stick with WWII and just claim that fps subgenre for their own, there's plenty of cool scenarios which got overlooked in favor of storming normandy beach for the umpteenth time
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: brawndolicious on January 07, 2010, 06:55:30 PM
honestly, I think WaW had the funnest campaign in the whole series.  Treyarch focuses less on snowmobile drive-by's and more on building up the tension and the ambushes.  Hopefully it has both special ops and co-op though.

The one thing that annoys me is that MW2 had such a bs cliffhanger and it probably won't be until next gen I'm guessing that we'll see the sequel to it.

man, i have zero interest in a vietnam game
why not?  It'll probably have more interesting characters than the WW2 games and the MW games but it'll still have fairly modern technology/warporn.  It has a chance of being good.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: brawndolicious on January 07, 2010, 07:11:11 PM
probably.  I think 2010 will be the last great year for current gen consoles.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: duckman2000 on January 07, 2010, 07:17:09 PM
The one thing that annoys me is that MW2 had such a bs cliffhanger and it probably won't be until next gen I'm guessing that we'll see the sequel to it.

On the other hand, the story had at that point turned into such incredible hack shit that it's hard to say that I care a whole lot about finding out what happens next.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: Beezy on January 07, 2010, 07:38:00 PM
probably.  I think 2010 will be the last great year for current gen consoles.
based on...?
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: brawndolicious on January 07, 2010, 07:42:59 PM
probably.  I think 2010 will be the last great year for current gen consoles.
based on...?
I feel like new consoles will come out by 2012 as cheap PC hardware is already more powerful than the current.  they'll probably announce the next-gen consoles in 2011 and a lot of publishers would want to push up development to the new hardware, or at least do a dual launch on both consoles.

Conker on xbox1 was sort of an anomaly
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: ManaByte on January 07, 2010, 08:34:11 PM
What about the PS3's ten year life?

And MS saying Natal is a relaunch for the 360 and it'll go for five more years?

Nah. Next gen won't happen for another three years or so. And honestly games have kind of hit a ceiling graphically for a while.

The only next gen console you'll see around 2012 is a Wii HD. Neither MS or Sony seem in too much a hurry to shake things up, especially when the core hardware just now hit the $299 price that the previous generation launched at. 
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: ManaByte on January 07, 2010, 08:38:25 PM
And Epic who is working on Unreal Engine 4 for the next gen even says it's a very long ways off.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: drew on January 07, 2010, 09:39:48 PM
man, i have zero interest in call of duty anymore

fixed
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 07, 2010, 10:22:40 PM
pretty much, yeah
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: Cormacaroni on January 08, 2010, 05:22:57 AM
fuck Platoon, they should just have you play as some poor sod under Frank Castle's command.

:bow The Punisher Born :bow2

i.e. One Man Horde Mode

i'd hit it :rock
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: brawndolicious on January 08, 2010, 06:31:33 AM
I just thought of how awesome it would be to call in a napalm strike.  Like using it to burn down foliage and huts, could be really fun in multiplayer.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: Cormacaroni on January 08, 2010, 07:09:49 AM
I just thought of how awesome it would be to call in a napalm strike.  Like using it to burn down foliage and huts, could be really fun in multiplayer.

Yeah! Watching it stick to the babies as they burn!

or maybe not.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: brawndolicious on January 08, 2010, 07:18:30 AM
well you used flamethrowers to clear foliage in WaW so it's not exactly a new mechanic.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: CHOW CHOW on January 08, 2010, 07:37:45 AM
more cod the better
treyarch get 2 much h8
typing w/1 hand, cant elaborate
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 08, 2010, 11:42:40 AM
but U can rhyme

all the time
but killing civilians is a crime
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: drew on January 08, 2010, 06:36:15 PM
i got a dime SACK

of weed to help my BACK...pain

dont give me crack thats LAME
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: Raban on January 08, 2010, 07:10:24 PM
In this thread, no flow.
All these foolhardy posters blow
They can't spit rhymes
Even when they got the time
To pick the words like fruit offa tree
Though, if you ask me
Truth be told, I won't lie
Neither do I.

Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: Fragamemnon on January 09, 2010, 03:10:13 AM
There's some interesting scenarios in Vietnam, but as a whole if they wanted to do something really remotely epic/interesting as WW2 they should have thought about Korea, though that would have pitched/sold even worse, I'd reckon. The most interesting part of the Vietnam war from a gaming perspective is the air war and alll the to-and-fro and political/army branch meddling that went on there and how it impacted bombing operations.

They will have a lot of leeway with scenario/level design with the Vietnam setting, so that might be interesting. I've always thought Treyarch to be very competent in that regard.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 29, 2010, 11:22:57 AM
Will be officially announced Friday.

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/episode-310-gametrailers-tv/65044

Leading rumors are Vietnam or Black Ops. Black Ops being a wider time period that may cover post WW 2 up to the 80's.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 29, 2010, 11:42:20 AM
I think I mentioned this earlier in the thread but I'll repeat since I'm too lazy to go look. If its really Vietnam or the Spec Ops things that time period is a lot more interesting to me than WW 2. I've wanted to play a game in that era for awhile now.

I'm sort of mixed on Treyarch in general but having played World at War recently, I thought it was better than I thought it was originally although it still had some annoying issues for me.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: WrikaWrek on April 29, 2010, 12:24:53 PM
Fucking dude from Stalker rapping on the net.

Christ
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: Raban on April 29, 2010, 01:10:34 PM
:rofl

:heart Borys :heart
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: Brehvolution on April 29, 2010, 01:58:03 PM
I hope they make the weapons authentic like how the US cut costs on using an aluminum bullet chamber instead of chrome which made the chambers warp and jam rendering many m16s worthless.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: maxy on April 30, 2010, 06:48:35 AM
http://www.callofduty.com/blackops/home/agegate (http://www.callofduty.com/blackops/home/agegate)

Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: brawndolicious on April 30, 2010, 09:02:12 AM
I hope they make the weapons authentic like how the US cut costs on using an aluminum bullet chamber instead of chrome which made the chambers warp and jam rendering many m16s worthless.
The campaign may even have M14's since what they used that in the beginning of the war.

I wonder how they will balance grenade launchers though for the rifles/assault-rifles class.  In World at War, they just let you put on a rifle grenade but they already had the M79 grenade launcher in Vietnam and in fact that was the "Thumper" in Modern Warfare 2.  It might not be possible now to shoot off a grenade without changing your weapon first.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops. 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 30, 2010, 09:02:33 AM
Not too surprising about the Black Ops title.

Here was the source of the original rumour for that.

http://www.mapmodnews.com/article.php?story=More-Call-of-Duty-7-Details-Revealed

Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops. 11.09.10
Post by: Eel O'Brian on April 30, 2010, 12:13:23 PM
now i'm a little more interested
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops. 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 01, 2010, 12:48:40 AM
The little teaser thing just came on. I'll post a youtube link once one is up. As I expected it doesn't really show anything at all just like the early Modern warfare teaser videos. It's quick intercuts of game footage mtv splice style. 

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKpLBPBGVIM[/youtube]
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops. 11.09.10
Post by: cool breeze on May 01, 2010, 01:58:28 AM
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-debut-call-of/64933

it is a bit more substantial than the early MW2 stuff
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops. 11.09.10
Post by: brawndolicious on May 01, 2010, 05:45:28 AM
it looks awesome.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops. 11.09.10
Post by: Skidmark on May 01, 2010, 04:43:24 PM
At first I thought it was just a spec ops DLC for mw2 but then I noticed that it doesn't say mw2 in the tittle, I also noticed the release date at the end of the video thats when I realized that it is the next COD.

Damn, that was quick, I'm not sure if I will manage to reach 10th prestige before the new game is out. they have to make it easier to prestige or I am just going to jump into a lobby and get done with it.

Also, they should do something about the kill streaks, they should divide them into two types. The first type is the regular one that we have in mw2 and the second type are ones that you can still get even if you died once.
This will make people not camp as much and can take more risks like capture flags and defuse when they are on a killstreak.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops. 11.09.10
Post by: Skidmark on May 01, 2010, 05:49:10 PM
It seems like my favorite shotgun from mw2 will be in Black Ops too, Analysis of the trailer:
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L908ySEaAZg[/youtube]

More guns that might be in the game (good song too :D )
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHNNdG6jNSM[/youtube]
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops. 11.09.10
Post by: demi on May 01, 2010, 05:51:42 PM
It's Black Ops, man. It's not gnna be factual. They probably have laser sight missle launchers. Look at Modern Warfare 2 - they have all these weapons and the strongest gun is an antique shotgun.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops. 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 01, 2010, 06:01:56 PM
I'm still not certain of the exact time period. I mean we know its Vietnam but I'm still not sure 100% if that means only Vietnam for the time period. Although at least for multiplayer it would sort of make sense to try to time period the weapons so you just don't have later weapons versus 50's and 60's weapons only.

I mean technically the Vietnam war stretches from like the mid 50's to the mid 70's. So it kind of depends a bit on what time bits they focus on.

Not to mention a lot of perks for example are conceptual in some cases.

Anyway here is a link of what some of the probable stuff to be.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapons_of_the_Vietnam_War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapons_of_the_Vietnam_War)
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops. 11.09.10
Post by: G The Resurrected on May 03, 2010, 12:10:45 PM
hope they don't go fucking around with the AI too much. W@W's ai model sucked ass when it came to nades and cheap kills. Which reminds me i need to go play it.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops. 11.09.10
Post by: Eel O'Brian on May 03, 2010, 12:38:48 PM
it's been a constant grenade shower since the first modern warfare, to cover up the fact that the single player campaigns are like four hours long now

i thought the set pieces were really nice in W@W, and the storyline was decent (what little there was), but man those fucking grenades were annoying and really killed the enjoyment, fuckers would throw them at you from five feet away

Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops. 11.09.10
Post by: cool breeze on May 03, 2010, 12:41:40 PM
problem with grenades in single player is that the enemy doesn't seem to have a limit.  I mean, it is easier for them to flush you out with grenades than do something complicated like flank your position or something.  light gun shooter, etc.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops. 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 03, 2010, 12:51:03 PM
Treyarch has never been up to IW when it comes to creating a well scripted campaign with roller coaster moments. Not that their games are awful but they simply don't match up in comparison SP-wise although they do have the co-op stuff which is nice. World at War was alright SP but I doubt this one will suddenly be better than the IW games were but we'll see I guess.

As far as the multiplayer as long as they fix the spawning that plagued World at War and don't go crazy with the vehicles they insist on putting in the MP then I'm somewhat interested to experience that.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops. 11.09.10
Post by: cool breeze on May 03, 2010, 12:55:04 PM
I played a tiny bit of WaW single player and hated it, but I did play the multiplayer beta on 360 and it was still great.  In the end, that is why people will be buying Black Ops and the devs seem competent at making a fun multiplayer mode.  I heard that nazi zombie mode was also decently popular, and it even had 4 player co-op for the whole game.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops. 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 03, 2010, 01:00:57 PM
I played a tiny bit of WaW single player and hated it, but I did play the multiplayer beta and 360 and it was still great.  In the end, that is why people will be buying Black Ops and the devs seem competent at making a fun multiplayer mode.  I heard that nazi zombie mode was also decently popular, and it even had 4 player co-op for the whole game.

The co-op bit is nice and it had online match-making co-op which is really nice. They did a really nice job on making all the stuff in their game have online matchmaking which you have to tip your hat to them on because a lot of devs don't do that.

The single player in WaW was okay but it wasn't as good as even COD 4 and it certainly wasn't as good as MW2. The nazi zombie stuff doesn't interest me and I doubt it will interest me in Black Ops but other people seem to like it. I prefer something like Spec Ops personally.

I'm hoping the Vietnam change of scene inspires them to create a better SP. I have a bit more confidence in them on the MP side though. There were a lot of good ideas in WaW MP dragged down by a few annoying things. Fix those annoying things and you have the makings of a really great MP game.

Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops. 11.09.10
Post by: demi on May 03, 2010, 01:10:24 PM
Spec Ops > Zombies
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops. 11.09.10
Post by: G The Resurrected on May 03, 2010, 01:38:06 PM
Spec Ops > Zombies

THIS!

I just started Spec Ops not too long ago and I wondered why the fuck I waited for so long. Spec Ops was great, hell I want more. Taking down juggernauts was fantastic fun. GONG! :D
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops. 11.09.10
Post by: demi on May 03, 2010, 02:14:36 PM
Yep, doing them on Vet felt so good. Especially the one that takes place in the airplane graveyard, holy moly.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops. 11.09.10
Post by: G The Resurrected on May 03, 2010, 02:19:37 PM
FUCK YES! that level is godly. Roxanne and I played the shit outta that level. We were having a hell of a time with it right after you get the Intel. We thought it'd be ok to snipe the guys from the top of the hill before sliding down. Oh shit we were so fucking wrong. Once the gong went off its like "OH SHIT JUG" we ended up getting two of them rushing at us from behind. Totally unexpected and fucked us up royally. Favela is another great level with the 10 Jugs.

Another great level is the No Russian level in the airport. The waves of bad ass shield bitches just waiting for my knife. We did the whole level without using guns. Just explosives and knives for the fuck of it.

And veteran is just right it makes you feel like you accomplish something when you play a game that most consider hard. I was trying to help my nephew out with Spec ops and he bitched out on me, little fucker couldn't handle veteran.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops. 11.09.10
Post by: ManaByte on May 13, 2010, 11:46:23 PM
Apparently Raven is doing the Map Packs.

And Treyarch is using the same performance capture rig they used on Avatar for the facial animation.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops. 11.09.10
Post by: Eel O'Brian on May 14, 2010, 09:53:44 AM
I still don't have much interest here, but i like that they're doing four player co-op again

When IW said they weren't doing co-op for MW2 because "it would break the integrity of the story" I loled
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops. 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 15, 2010, 12:40:06 AM
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Most of the recent news surrounding the Call of Duty franchise has involved the controversial departures at Infinity Ward. But now we have a new Call of Duty game to drool over, developed by the good people at Treyarch. Call of Duty: Black Ops debuted with a teaser trailer earlier this month and now we know when we'll see even more of the title.

We recently learned that on May 18th during the NBA Eastern Conference Finals on ESPN we'll see an official "reveal" trailer of Black Ops on television. Will you tune in to check out the trailer even though LeBron has been knocked out of the playoffs?

They did a similar thing with Modern Warfare during the playoffs last year and it was a lengthy 1 minute commercial cut from a 2 minute trailer. Hopefully it will be the same situation here.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops. 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 16, 2010, 01:20:46 PM
Interest rising...

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OXM’s Call of Duty: Black Ops cover feature has been stripped of information. Head inside, soldier.The magazine says, “You’re not just relegated to mini-gun man who holds down the trigger and nudges the aiming reticle around the screen. For once, you’re flying the helicopter. And firing the missiles. And the mini-guns.”Other stuff:- You will be fighting the North Vietnamese Army in certain missions.- You’re an off-the-grid, best-of-the-best badass with a more important secret agenda.- Vehicles will return, but “not in the way you remember them from WaW”.- There will be “dedicated co-op” with separate levels. Treyarch changed the subject when the mag asked about World at War’s hugely popular Nazi Zombies.- A multiplayer beta’s being “considered.”- Treyarch will be improving mulitplayer by taking on feedback – even going so far as to openly acknowledge the under-the-map glitches that initially plagued World at War.- Changes are being made to the matchmaking to “make it easier for [players] to get into games with their friends.”- Multiplayer was up and running so early that some campaign levels were actually built from multiplayer maps.- Create-a-Class 2.0 will allow you to customise yourself like never before. This should include kit and appearance items as well as perks.OXM seems very excited about the game, saying, “The evolution Treyarch has undergone between World at War and Black Ops feels very familiar. In fact, we don’t have to look far to figure it out. We saw this exact kind of “oh-ha!” corner-turning in game design and execution from this very franchise back when Infinity Ward leapt from A-list to the AAA-list between CoD2 and the first Modern Warfare.”The developer also seems excited about the game, with Treyarch boss Mark Lamia saying, “We’ve taken some creative risks… We want to do something different than we’ve done before. It’s time… We want the game to speak for itself.”

http://www.vg247.com/2010/05/16/oxm-cod-black-ops-info-internetalized/#more-95624


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Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops. 11.09.10
Post by: Skidmark on May 18, 2010, 07:21:55 PM
Is the new primer trailer to be released today?
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops. 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 18, 2010, 07:34:20 PM
Is the new primer trailer to be released today?

Yeah at around 10PM EST during the basketball game. I'll post it although it may take a little bit before a decent HD version is on youtube.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops. 11.09.10
Post by: Brehvolution on May 18, 2010, 08:56:25 PM
I'm surprised that dude could type that well with Treyarch's dick in his mouth. Jesus
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops. 11.09.10
Post by: Skidmark on May 18, 2010, 09:24:04 PM
Is the new primer trailer to be released today?

Yeah at around 10PM EST during the basketball game. I'll post it although it may take a little bit before a decent HD version is on youtube.

I want a live stream  :lol
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops. 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 18, 2010, 09:32:04 PM
I'm surprised that dude could type that well with Treyarch's dick in his mouth. Jesus

lulz. To be fair all previews read like that. Completely sycophantic.

I'm always skeptical about Treyarch. They haven't really exhibited the balls to step out of the shadow in a meaningful way. Although I'm quietly optimistic that maybe they have really put the effort into this one.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops. 11.09.10
Post by: G The Resurrected on May 18, 2010, 10:13:37 PM
Its up on XBL Marketplace, and it looks fucking awesome. The crossbow has a timed explosive on it! Don't let me down Treyarch!
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops. 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 18, 2010, 10:22:50 PM
Its up on XBL Marketplace, and it looks fucking awesome. The crossbow has a timed explosive on it! Don't let me down Treyarch!

Yep its up on XBL. And I agree the crossbow thing looks fucking cool. I'm looking forward to playing the title. Hopefully they bring their A game. First time I have legit hopes for a Treyarch game.

Video is up here.

http://www.callofduty.com/blackops
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops. 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 18, 2010, 10:28:12 PM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtRnpC7ddv8[/youtube]
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops. 11.09.10
Post by: Eel O'Brian on May 18, 2010, 10:40:43 PM
wow, that actually looks pretty cool

so what's the up/down on sp length?

since there's a separate dedicated co-op, i'm going with a 3.5 hour sp campaign
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops. 11.09.10
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 18, 2010, 10:41:07 PM
That engine is really starting to show its age.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops. 11.09.10
Post by: Eel O'Brian on May 18, 2010, 10:44:30 PM
that explosive crossbow thing is going to lead to some mp hilarity

"i shot you in the balls with an arrow...which blew up"
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops. 11.09.10
Post by: Skidmark on May 18, 2010, 10:45:46 PM
I am impressed, can't wait to see some multiplayer footage.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops. 11.09.10
Post by: Skidmark on May 18, 2010, 10:46:39 PM
that explosive crossbow thing is going to lead to some mp hilarity

"i shot you in the balls with an arrow...which blew up"
noobarrowing?
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops. 11.09.10
Post by: Eel O'Brian on May 18, 2010, 10:53:09 PM
they'll probably have some distinguished mentally-challenged medal or achievement that goes along with it

"Nutcracker SWEET"
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops. 11.09.10
Post by: WrikaWrek on May 18, 2010, 11:02:22 PM
Visually? It looks old like Willco implied.

Thematically? It's already failing. Change through multiple characters and time? Really? The story is gonna be shit. Bleh
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops. 11.09.10
Post by: ManaByte on May 18, 2010, 11:05:05 PM
I don't know. Some of those character model shots in the trailer looked like CG.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops. 11.09.10
Post by: Skidmark on May 18, 2010, 11:06:54 PM
I really hope that they keep a light weight perk in black ops because I love rushing and switching my gamestyle from time to time. It seems like many people don't want it and would prefer a boring version of counter strike instead where they just camp their asses in a building just to increase their k/d ratios wings of redemption style.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops. 11.09.10
Post by: ManaByte on May 18, 2010, 11:09:57 PM
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Really impressive lighting.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops. 11.09.10
Post by: Eel O'Brian on May 18, 2010, 11:23:00 PM
Visually? It looks old like Willco implied.

Thematically? It's already failing. Change through multiple characters and time? Really? The story is gonna be shit. Bleh

so it's going to be like every other call of duty game ever made, then
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops. 11.09.10
Post by: WrikaWrek on May 18, 2010, 11:48:30 PM
Visually? It looks old like Willco implied.

Thematically? It's already failing. Change through multiple characters and time? Really? The story is gonna be shit. Bleh

so it's going to be like every other call of duty game ever made, then


Not really. Bad Company 2 did this, but MW only changed between two perspectives. It was MW2 that started to fuck things up, and now this one.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops. 11.09.10
Post by: Skidmark on May 19, 2010, 12:13:53 AM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XN0XmCpi7dg[/youtube]
So this is what some people want:
No lightweight, no marathon, no sleight of hand, no commando, no last stand, no final stand, no pain killer, no martyrdom, no heartbeat sensor, no noobtubes, no rocket launchers, no secondary shotguns or SMGs, no akimbos, no riot shields, no care packages, no air support, no nukes.
What they want:
Ability to choose maps and to not join games in progress, harder to use weapons, more recoil, more sway and no ''overpowered weapons''.
Why?
So that they can play ''strategically'', as in camp in their favorite corner and wait for the other guy to go around the corner, so that they can shoot him using the same and only weapon that they have ever used and mastered, before he gets a chance to fire at them with his unbalanced combos.
Why I don't want that?
What I like about mw2 is that almost each and every match I play feels like a new game or at least a match that I haven't experienced before. I have to counter and adjust my game style to the different strategies in order to win or at least survive the match. Not knowing what is going to happen to me the next moment yet I try my best to be prepared for it.
Reducing the variety of the different different possible gamestyles would make this a boring game of first see/squeeze the trigger first wins, and its not something that find joy in playing.
This alone and talking shit about good developers vs evil developers and asking for boycotts is a whole other thing that irritates me too.
End of rant.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops. 11.09.10
Post by: Himu on May 19, 2010, 01:39:32 AM
This looks badass.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops. 11.09.10
Post by: Brehvolution on May 19, 2010, 03:41:58 PM
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Bruce Willis is in this?
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: maxy on May 28, 2010, 02:29:01 PM
New pics
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I really like this one :bow2

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Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: demi on May 28, 2010, 04:05:35 PM
u going to play on hardened, borys? :lol
Title: Re: Call of Duty 7 (1960's Vietnam) also in November 2010
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 29, 2010, 02:47:57 AM
Don't war games about Vietnam have a terrible-sales curse? Or have they all actually been shit?

I wonder if the market is finally in a place where a gritty, violent "realistic" Vietnam game could do well
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: brawndolicious on May 29, 2010, 03:54:56 AM
Don't war games about Vietnam have a terrible-sales curse? Or have they all actually been shit?

WaW sold like 10M copies. It deserved them be honest.
But it wasn't in vietnam.....it was violent as fuck but it was a war that we (well not you) won.

Personally I'd have more interest in this game's co-op/spec-pops mode than it's campaign, from a fun standpoint at least.  However, I did really like the violent stuff in WaW so it'll probably have a decent campaign.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: duckman2000 on May 29, 2010, 01:25:34 PM
Looks hot, will buy. Well, depending on how Medal of Honor turns out, I'm sticking to one shooter this year.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 15, 2010, 08:45:15 AM
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Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 16, 2010, 01:51:09 AM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ob29Viv_h24[/youtube]
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: TripleA on June 16, 2010, 01:56:10 AM
Is Black OPS coming out on PC?

Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 16, 2010, 01:56:42 AM
Is Black OPS coming out on PC?



Of course. This is Activision.

Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 16, 2010, 01:58:54 AM
dedicated servers are back for pc, too
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: TripleA on June 16, 2010, 02:05:48 AM
Ok thanks, I thought ActiVision had given up  :D
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 16, 2010, 02:39:50 AM
Nope, first CoD I will start on Vet. Shouldn't be too hard as every CoD since 4 is easier on Veteran since the last one. I read that WaW's grenade spam was nowhere to be found in MW2 and MW2 was just overall easy.

Did you actually boycott MW2, Borys? my god, i thought all that was just fanboy banter.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 16, 2010, 02:48:14 AM
Nope, first CoD I will start on Vet. Shouldn't be too hard as every CoD since 4 is easier on Veteran since the last one. I read that WaW's grenade spam was nowhere to be found in MW2 and MW2 was just overall easy.

Did you actually boycott MW2, Borys? my god, i thought all that was just fanboy banter.

It was for most people.

MW 2 hasn't left the top seller page on Steam since it was released.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on August 09, 2010, 12:54:53 PM
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Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: demi on August 09, 2010, 02:15:19 PM
Looks like Modern Warfare 2. Better sell my copy while the market is high.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on August 09, 2010, 02:30:07 PM
Looks like Modern Warfare 2.

It does even down to the color palette which I prefer over the old World at War darkish tones. The videos and such have pushed me over. I'm getting it. First Treyarch one I will have bought since that hot mess of COD 3 (although I did gamefly COD:WaW and it was much better)

Looking forward to the video editor. Always wanted it in the COD series. Looks like it can record the entire game. Really great feature in Halo.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Brehvolution on August 09, 2010, 03:40:11 PM
Half tempted to get this on PC this time around.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: archie4208 on August 09, 2010, 03:43:39 PM
Half tempted to get this on PC this time around.

The PC version will have dedicated server support.  I plan to grab this on a Steam sale some time next year.  :bow Treyarch  :bow2
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on August 09, 2010, 04:50:16 PM
Yeah, that looked pretty solid. I'm pretty pleased with Treyarch. Perhaps all the shit I gave them in the past was unjust.

Nah they deserved some crap for some of their prior output. I think the entire studio focusing on one product has probably helped them out quite a bit and is a good thing. 
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: demi on August 09, 2010, 04:50:29 PM
I plan to grab this on a Steam sale some time next year.

:lol
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 12, 2010, 12:11:03 PM
this is actually a pretty badass collector's edition if you are into that sort of thing

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As you can see above, the ultimate package (again dubbed the Prestige Edition) comes with a working RC car complete with a camera that provides TFT color video and audio to its operator. You might recognize it as unarmed replica of the vehicle seen in the game's multiplayer trailer.

In addition to the perv mobile, you'll get the pictured Black Ops medallion (not to be confused with a Medal of Honor), an exclusive Xbox Live Avatar outfit (we've contacted Activision to find out what PS3 and PC can expect as a substitute), and four co-op multiplayer maps.

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/08/12/call-of-duty-black-ops-prestige-edition-comes-with-working-rc-s/
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on August 12, 2010, 12:14:18 PM
I'm annoyed because the hardened and prestige edition have game content (4 exclusive co-op maps or something) that the regular version doesn't. I was happy when MW 2 didn't fall into that shitty business practice that is so rampant nowadays but this one does. If I buy your game for $60 dollars don't bone me on content for the game that I am buying.

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Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 12, 2010, 12:20:04 PM
yeah, they should have included a ported version of United Offensive this time

i'll bet those co-op maps hit the dlc market, though, they're not gonna pass up any opportunity for extra dollars
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on August 12, 2010, 12:21:58 PM
yeah, they should have included a ported version of United Offensive this time

i'll bet those co-op maps hit the dlc market, though, they're not gonna pass up any opportunity for extra dollars

Sure. It's just a principle thing for me. I don't mind not getting some older game, or some avatar item, or other random crap. But when actual game content for the game I just bought is held back from me, I get pissed. Especially if that content is available day one.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 12, 2010, 12:26:59 PM
Oh, I agree.

Although i's not quite the same, I would have bought Mafia II for PC or 360 if it weren't for the exclusive PS3 content (which is pretty content-heavy according to previews).
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on August 12, 2010, 12:30:42 PM
Oh, I agree.

Although i's not quite the same, I would have bought Mafia II for PC or 360 if it weren't for the exclusive PS3 content (which is pretty content-heavy according to previews).

Oh I hear you. I think stuff like the Mafia stuff is stupid also. But what are you gonna do I guess. You get boned nowadays from every direction.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 12, 2010, 12:35:08 PM
I'm just waiting for one of the companies to get ballsy enough to make online MP part of the "exclusive content" in a $70 to $80  "prestige" or collector's edition
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on August 12, 2010, 12:38:26 PM
I'm just waiting for one of the companies to get ballsy enough to make online MP part of the "exclusive content" in a $70 to $80  "prestige" or collector's edition

I think what's more likely is the subscription plan idea at least for the near future. I think even Activision isn't dumb enough yet to go full on yet in charging in that manner. I'm certain Call of Duty will eventually move to something essentially like that quake live deal. You'll get basic mp for free of course but extra maps or features will be tied to a subscription. And of course everybody will eventually adopt that online pass system used in the EA sports games to deal with the used market.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on August 12, 2010, 12:43:48 PM
Diverging your user base between the haves and the have-nots at product launch is a failure at rudimentary marketing and economics. A map pack is essential for the multiplayer core experience and to already split that up from the beginning is undermining your game.

To be fair its the co-op stuff for this one and they'll probably have a good number of co-op maps ala Spec Ops but I hear your point. And if its that zombie mode which I don't play then honestly I don't care. Its just sort of the principle that irks me.


Bad Company 2 already has a slight schism in that regard via their VIP pass and the separation on some mp maps between a new game buyer and a used game buyer.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on August 12, 2010, 12:46:40 PM
Oh it's just co-op? I thought you guys meant like a general map pack for the usual multiplayer modes.

That's not as bad but I love co-op so that dicks me over right from the get go.

Yeah I believe its co-op maps.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: ManaByte on August 12, 2010, 03:35:25 PM
Treyarch did they same thing with World at War where the LE got an exclusive gun, which was never released as DLC.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: G The Resurrected on September 01, 2010, 11:04:37 AM
Where's my multiplayer reveal?! the misses is already getting emails about it from her work and yet they mention nothing specific!
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: drew on September 01, 2010, 01:59:06 PM
anyone know whats in the medal of honor special edition?
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 01, 2010, 06:00:32 PM
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Who would have thought this? Scans of UK gaming magazine Shortlist have been posted on the internet today, revealing some revolutionary changes to the Call of Duty multiplayer formula. The most notable addition is currency: earned by playing multiplayer matches, you can use it to buy weapons, uniforms and accessories for your player. There are also several brand new gametypes which are unlike anything seen in Call of Duty before.
Customization
Customization will also play a huge part in the new Call of Duty. David Vonderhaar, lead multiplayer designer at Treyarch, told the magazine: “You can create a tag and etch it onto your weapons, so they’re stamped as yours. The option is also there to alter your sights and clip on attachtments such as flame-throwers.”
These attachments, sights and tags can be bought with in-game cash and will help to make your character ‘unique’. However, it seems likely that some elements of the traditional rank system from previous Call of Duty games will remain, given that players in the Multiplayer Teaser Trailer had ranks next to their names. It’s likely that we’ll find out more on this later tonight, at the Multiplayer Reveal Event.
‘Wager Match’
Another new addition is a Team Tactical gametype called ‘Wager Match’. When you choose to play Wager Match, you’ll be randomly placed in one of four modes: ‘One in the Chamber’, which sees players given one bullet to kill other players: miss, and they’re forced to use the knife, ‘Sharpshooter’, which sees players given a random weapon, ‘Sticks and Stones’, which involves the crossbow, ballistic knife and Tomahawk, and ‘Gun Game’ (formerly a mod for Call of Duty 4), which sees players vying to get kills with 20 different weapons: knife someone, and they move down a level.
“You gamble with your own currency, and the fear of loss is so incredibly great that it intensifies the action.” – David Vonderhaar
Team Deathmatch, the popular and ever-present gametype which pits teams of 6 against each other, will return in Black Ops. However, points for headshots and other bonuses will apparently add to the team score, encouraging players to be as accurate as possible.


Three maps were confirmed in the magazine extract: Launch and Summit have already been seen in the Multiplayer Teaser Trailer, but Radiation, set in a power station, is brand new. It was also confirmed that the rocket seen on the map Launch will indeed lift off during gameplay and 'fry anyone underneath it'.
We're sure to find out more tonight and hear confirmation of the features above. It definitely looks like Treyarch have not been content to produce a re-badged version of Modern Warfare 2, and it'll be interesting to hear the full extent of how these new features play out.
Be sure to follow our live-blog of the multiplayer reveal starting at 6PM PST. If you're not already following us on Twitter, you may also want to do that! Finally, do leave a comment or head over to the forums to discuss these new details.

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Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Brehvolution on September 01, 2010, 08:54:36 PM
The fact that there's Gun Game is awesome as hell. That's my favorite mode is a lot of FPS's
Hype x 1000

my favorite mode in Counter Strike
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on September 01, 2010, 09:21:18 PM
Yet another thing Activision is stealing thats free and charigng for.


Who am I kidding, I fucking love Gun Game.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Saint Cornelius on September 01, 2010, 09:24:36 PM
What the fuck is Gun Game?

Will there be Zombies in Black Ops? No Zombies, no sale.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 01, 2010, 10:28:44 PM
I'll edit any of the relevant info in this point. They are discussing the game now.


* Combat Training is a new multiplayer mode that lets you play with “practice dummies” – bots. Has its own rank up, can be played co-op with a friend. When you are ready, you can then go online
* Create a Class -- you see your character on this screen because Park 1 has an impact on how your look in the game. If you are Ghost, you wear a ghillie. If you take flak jacket, it's shown and you take less explosive damage.
Lethal, Tactical, Equipment -- you choose. All things you throw that are lethal go on right bumper, all things that are tactical go into your left bumper.
Equipment: Camera Spike, C4, Tactical Insertion, Motion Sensor, Claymore
* Many of the new Killstreaks have some layer of player interaction -- they wanted them to be more interactive
Video of Death Machine and Grim Reaper killstreaks. Death Machine is a gatling gun. Grim Reaper is a rocket launcher Napalam Strike and our friend the RC-XD are up now
Gunship (death from above), Mortar Team, and SAM Turret -- set it up, take out the airborne attacks automatically
* Every time you play, you ear COD Points -- CP. What you used to unlock by level is now purchasable with the in-game currency. Unlock what you want when you want. Contracts are time-limited challenges you buy and get more CP if you finish them. Using any combination of stats, we can make any kind of Contracts we want, and can change them at any time. Mercenary, Operations, and Specialist contracts. Make the investment in your own play style and then get paid for doing so,
* Wager Match mode, where you can bet Cod points during a match.
Wager Match-- gample your COD points for a bigger pay day. Top 3 get da $$.

Take CP, wager them, and bet whether you are in the top three in the scoreboard for the specific match
First one: one in the chamber, and everyone just has a pistol with one bullet and three lives.
Second mode: sticks and stones where yo have crossbows and ballistic knives plus a tomahawk
Gun game starts you with a pistol, and you then gain new weapons after each kill
Sharpshooter is where everyone uses the same weapon and unlocks perks per kill  except you unlock a better gun with each kill...and lose a "level" with death instead of starting from the beginning
*  You can customize your weapon so it looks the way you want it to look -- new camo patterns, and you place your emblem on it, customize your red dot sight. Killcams reflect this so you will know exactly who shot you just by seeing their weapon. Change the color of the reticle -- red dot doesn't have to be red or a dot.
* Emblem editor – images, layers, and a background. You change the scale, move, color, rotate, all that stuff. Create layers, then purchase the option with COD points to put it on your gun
*  Xbox Live - Inside Xbox will have a video tomorrow that features theater mode.  All recent games played on live can be tagged, edited, and searched with Theater.
* Secondaries are pistols, crossbow, and launchers.
* Killstreaks do not count toward others ones.
* Equipment - Camera Spike. C4. TI. Jammer. Motion sensor. Claymore
*Perks Perk 1
Lightweight - Move Faster (Pro)
Scavenger - Pick up ammo from fallen enemies. Replenish lethal grenades. (Pro)
Ghost - Undetectable by the Spy Plane and the Blackbird.
Flak Jacket - Reduces explosive damage.
Hardline - Killstreaks require 1 less kill.
Perk 2
Hardened - Bullets penetrate better.
Scout - Hold breath longer.
Steady Aim - Increased hip-fire accuracy.
Sleight of Hand - Faster reloads.
Warlord - Equip two attachments to your primary weapon.
Perk 3
Marathon - Longer sprint.
Ninja - Silent movement.
Second Chance - Pull out your pistol before dying.
Hacker - Ability to detect enemy equipment and explosives.
Tactical Mask - Reduces the effect of flash and concussion grenades.
* Lethal Grenades - Tomahawk. Frag. Semtex.
* Tactical Grenades - Willy Pete. Nova Gas. Flash Bang. Concussion. Decoy. Willy Pete is smoke.
* Launchers - M72. RPG. Strela. China Lake.
* 50 levels per prestige
* When you sprint and go prone, you dive
* Killstreaks
3 – Spy Plane
3 – RC XD
4 – Counter Spy Plane $1600
4 – Sam Turret $1600
5 – Care Package
5 – Napalm Strike
6 – Sentry Gun $3200
6 – Mortar Team
7 – Attack Helicopter
7 – Valkyrie Rockets $4000
8 – BlackBird $4500
8 – Rolling Thunder $4500
9 - Chopper Gunner $5000
11 – Attack Dogs $6000
11 Gunship $6000


Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Saint Cornelius on September 01, 2010, 10:50:53 PM
What the fuck is Gun Game?

Will there be Zombies in Black Ops? No Zombies, no sale.

You don't know about Gun Game? You start off with the standard pistol and kills get you better weapons and you do this until you get the last weapon, which in CS:S is usually a grenade.


That sounds cool, but it's no Zombie.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 01, 2010, 11:34:01 PM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg_8mPoloBo[/youtube]
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: drew on September 02, 2010, 12:00:12 AM
That sounds cool, but it's no Zombie.

gungame >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>zombie mod
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 02, 2010, 12:01:34 AM
all of the stuff on that list sounds really cool, i'm digging the co-op bot mode

i have gone from absolute zero interest in this game to "hey, this might be fun"
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: demi on September 02, 2010, 12:21:37 AM
Gun Game does sound pretty stupid. Zombie Mode please.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Diunx on September 02, 2010, 01:20:29 AM
Like the stick and stones mode.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on September 02, 2010, 01:44:08 AM
:bow Treyarch :bow2

I thought I was completely burnt out on CoD, but they're really doing some crazy cool stuff with multiplayer in this one.

Also, ZOMBIES.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 02, 2010, 01:47:37 AM
For what its worth I like a lot of what I read about. It really seems like they added a lot of stuff and in particular some stuff I've always wanted like the theater mode. I've been dying for that in a cod game forever. Its minor but I also like the change of killstreaks having to be earned outside of other kill streaks and apparently no stopping power which I always felt was a must have perk so it eliminated variety in setups. All those new game modes sound cool and actually tempting to try which is high praise from me considering I generally hate free for all gametypes.

Of course it all comes down to how it plays. I had issues with word at war so hopefully treyarch makes all this play as well as it sounds. But I'm quietly confident right now. Definitely putting down a preorder.

Don't give a shit about the zombie mode. Never care for any of these survival modes ala firefight or horde mode (I only liked spec ops in mw2 and how it was designed) but who knows. It might still be in there for those that care about such things. Although they did not mention it tonight. I prefer how that bot mode sounds already to any zombie stuff.


Machinima put up a shitload of videos.

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLYY-7Q8878[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2FopStMJok[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkSZP_qZoiE[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds9uC4RSw5Q[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VuOJvNJmqc[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9m4U93ChNI[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7reqZ7W1tA&hd=1[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlIguaPzlc8[/youtube]

Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 02, 2010, 10:35:47 AM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G94SolEtpnc&feature=sub[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAM5AZxmT_M&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UrArRkXVE8[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kutHuhV5Eo[/youtube]

Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: cool breeze on September 02, 2010, 10:55:05 AM
the one bullet match sounds really fun, actually.  It's like the type of weird game modes my friend would come up in the past.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 02, 2010, 01:12:34 PM
Regarding a co-op mode this was said last night.

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Think last night was it from Treyarch as far as multiplayer went? Wrong. It still has an ace.The developer’s community manager Josh Olin has told Gamerzines it’s still to reveal a co-op mode.While admitting there will be such a mode, he wouldn’t get into specifics as to what it would be.“We haven’t revealed the co-op mode yet,” said Olin, speaking at gamescom.“I confirmed that part of the Prestige and Hardened Edition copies of the game is the four World at War Zombies levels playable in Black Ops co-operatively, but that’s all we announced.”He added: “As for what our actual co-op mode is that ships with the game, we’re not ready to reveal that just yet.”

So you can almost guarantee I'm guessing that is zombie or aliens whatever mode stuff.


[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZfI6F8QRMM[/youtube]

Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: drew on September 02, 2010, 02:33:01 PM
:bow cz75 :bow2
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: archie4208 on September 07, 2010, 12:01:32 AM
PC version info:

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After Call of Duty: World at War, we set out 3 goals for our next PC title:


1] PC gets every single game feature that the consoles get, but in a way that makes sense for PC.
2] PC gets even more features – the ones that PC gamers want like dedicated servers and more customization.
3] Keep it fun. Protect the integrity of the title through design and post-launch support.

Keep that in mind as you read through the decisions outlined below in our FAQ.

Call of Duty: Black Ops PC Multiplayer FAQ

Full feature support: Confirmed
Ranked Servers: earn XP and currency. Wager Servers: gamble your currency. Customizable Unranked Servers. Combat Training against practice dummies. Theater. Create-a-Class "2.0." Contracts. Emblem editor. Everything the consoles get. Implemented in a way that makes sense for PC (*cough* no lobbies *cough*).

PC Features: Confirmed
Dedicated Servers. New Server Browser. Dev console. /record. Customizable game modes, perks, killstreaks, classes, and higher player counts on unranked servers. Map rotation. RCon. Kick & Ban. MOTD. In-game custom Server Banners. And more.

Mod Tools: Confirmed
We will release mod tools sometime post-launch. We need to finish the game first. Then we will make sure any urgent issues are handled. Then we will begin work on tools. The extent of the mod tools package will not be known until this time.

Global Persistent Stats, Profiles: Confirmed
Your profile data is stored on servers for you and is accessible from anywhere on the internet. Stats, XP, COD Points, configs, etc.

Leaderboards: Confirmed
Yes, leaderboards - globally persistent leaderboards (i.e. NOT per-server based).

Steam Exclusive: Confirmed
Millions of Call of Duty fans are already on Steam. Their Friends are on Steam. Steam will provide the ease of auto-updating instead of manual patching. Auto-updating will also help keep the community playing together on the latest version. The Steam cloud will make your profile and configs available to you on any computer.

VAC: Confirmed
We are serious about protecting the integrity of this game from hackers and cheaters who would otherwise ruin the fun for the honest players. Used in conjunction with our own anti-exploit measures, Theater reviews, trusted servers, and supplemented by server admins with kick and ban powers we believe that Valve Anti-Cheat will be an effective solution for Call of Duty: Black Ops PC. We are committed to working closely and diligently with Valve to deal with new threats as they appear.

No “Public Server Files”: Confirmed
Many of these game features are predicated on having a trusted host or server. Otherwise these features would be wide-open to easy exploits and rampant cheating. Also, anti-cheat solutions can be significantly more effective on games that rely on trusted servers. We chose against “public server files” in favor of providing full feature support and protecting the integrity of this title. This doesn't mean you won't have customization or admin capabilities with your servers - because you will. This simply means we've partnered with an exclusive server provider.

GameServers.com Exclusive: Confirmed
We have partnered with GameServers.com as the exclusive provider of dedicated servers for Call of Duty: Black Ops. Every dedicated server for this title will be running on top quality hardware and infrastructure with excellent bandwidth. There will be a ton of official servers at launch for everyone to play on for free. If you want to run your own server you will be able to rent one at a great price (which will never go higher than $0.99/slot). They are actively adding new server locations and staffing up to meet global demand. If you don’t see your location you can suggest it here: http://www.gameservers.com/blackops/

Max Players: Not Confirmed
We have not yet finalized the maximum number of players in ranked or unranked servers. More playtesting is required to determine how high these numbers can go. This happens as late as possible in the project otherwise the game is likely to change in ways that could invalidate the results.

Minimum System Requirements: Not Confirmed
The game is still in development, and the PC team is hard at work making further optimizations. We will announce the min specs in the near future.

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Hopefully that answers the majority of the outstanding questions not answered from our MP Reveal coverage. There are still some questions we do not have answers for at this time, so as always, we appreciate your patience. We will have all questions answered before November 9th.

Regards,
-JD, PC Dev, & the PC Team

Sounds amazing.  :bow Treyarch :bow2
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 29, 2010, 10:53:45 AM
So for those who care about such things there is your zombie mode.

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SANTA MONICA, Calif., Sept 29, 2010 /PRNewswire via COMTEX News Network/ -- Taking the wraps off one of the most anticipated features and worst kept secrets, Treyarch revealed today that the community-favorite "Zombies" is coming to Call of Duty(R): Black Ops which hits stores worldwide on November 9th, by Activision Publishing, Inc. (Nasdaq: ATVI). Zombies were originally introduced in Call of Duty(R): World at War and became an instant hit. Call of Duty: Black Ops fans can combat the zombie apocalypse in up to four-player co-op gameplay.

"Zombies have been such a hit with our community that we were committed to bringing brand new zombie experiences to Call of Duty: Black Ops," says Treyarch Studio Head, Mark Lamia. "We've taken extra special care to retain the essential ingredients of our Zombie game, and have also crafted a nice surprise for the fans."

Today's news follows the announcement that four updated co-op maps from Call of Duty: World at War will be made available as part of the Call of Duty(R): Black Ops Prestige and Hardened Editions, along with the premium edition Steelbook(TM) Case, custom Black Ops limited edition medal and an exclusive Black Ops Avatar outfit.

Gamers can also experience an all new co-op game in Call of Duty: Black Ops Multiplayer with Combat Training. Up to six players can rank up in this dedicated and exclusive multiplayer mode battling against enemy AI.

Call of Duty: Black Ops will release worldwide on November 9th. Pre-orders for the title are available now. Call of Duty: Black Ops for the Xbox 360(R) video game and entertainment system from Microsoft, PlayStation(R) 3 computer entertainment system, Nintendo Wii(TM) and Windows(R) PC is rated "M" (Mature -- Blood, Drug Reference, Intense Violence and Language). Also scheduled for release is Call of Duty: Black Ops for the Nintendo DS(TM) family of hand-held systems, which is rated "T" (Teen) by the ESRB and in development by n-Space.

Additionally, fans who can't wait for the November 9th release of Call of Duty: Black Ops can hone their zombie combat skills on iPhone and iPod Touch starting tomorrow with the newest map release for Call of Duty: ZOMBIES, Der Riese ("Zombie Factory"), which is an adaptation of the popular downloadable content originally released for Call of Duty: World at War. Call of Duty: ZOMBIES is developed by Ideaworks Game Studio for the iPhone and iPod touch, based on Treyarch's console version, and now all four maps from the original game are available for $4.99 from the App Store at www.itunes.com/appstore/.

For more Call of Duty information, visit www.callofduty.com/blackops and also via Twitter @JD_2020.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Brehvolution on September 29, 2010, 04:21:19 PM
I think I'm going PC this time. I definitely would get to play it more than if I got it on the 360.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 29, 2010, 05:01:30 PM
Seems like Black Ops is making a lot of nice balance changes. Among them:


* Killstreak kills don't count toward other kill streaks. So you have to earn them in a legit manner.
* Stopping power removed as a perk.
* Shotguns moved to primary weapon slot.
* Scavenger doesn't refill grenade launcher and Grenade launcher can't be used with bling (warlord).
* Flak jacket is apparently actually useful this time along with no danger close perk.
* Sleight of Hand perk doesn't effect snipers.

All good stuff imo.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Beezy on September 29, 2010, 05:14:22 PM
Agreed, but I'm still not sure if I'm gonna get it.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Brehvolution on September 29, 2010, 07:17:00 PM
Well, if you don't get it
spoiler (click to show/hide)
:rapetime
[close]
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 01, 2010, 11:43:09 AM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0_r4-eTmlA[/youtube]
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: archie4208 on October 01, 2010, 11:56:36 AM
Looks awesome.  Maybe people will stop shitting on Treyarch and give them some more respect.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Beezy on October 01, 2010, 01:56:40 PM
Looks awesome.  Maybe people will stop shitting on Treyarch and give them some more respect.
...nah
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 01, 2010, 02:01:21 PM
My take is this.

I wasn't a big fan of Treyarch in the past but each game is an opportunity for a company to take a big step and up their game. Black Ops from all the info seems like they have upped their game.

The true test as always will be how it plays but so far everything they have shown gives me confidence which wasn't the case in the past with them.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: demi on October 01, 2010, 02:17:58 PM
Achievements look good. Quick rent then move on to superior Reach
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 09, 2010, 02:07:09 PM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koH18GfyrXM[/youtube]


http://www.gametrailers.com/episode/bonusround/410?ch=1
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: naff on October 09, 2010, 07:02:53 PM
Holy shit. Console versions are retailing at $150 here. PC at $110. ffffuuuuu Reach retailed at launch at a lot of places at $80, max $110 that I saw...

:piss
   Activision.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 12, 2010, 01:51:55 AM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJerWQhMl6k&feature=yva-video-display[/youtube]
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 12, 2010, 11:35:18 AM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eS_Sdg5tB3o&hd=1[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IB4iPZ9Lqvs[/youtube]

http://g4tv.com/videos/49177/Call-of-Duty-Black-Ops---Jungle-Multiplayer-Map-Exclusive/?quality=hd
http://g4tv.com/videos/49142/Call-of-Duty-Black-Ops---Kowloon-Single-Player-Exclusive/?quality=hd
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: cool breeze on October 13, 2010, 10:39:55 PM
Kowloon looks kinda awesome.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 15, 2010, 05:08:17 PM
Somebody has an early copy. Shitty quality stream though.

http://www.justin.tv/iuseextenzez/b/271924954?
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 19, 2010, 05:31:17 PM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnhCAokb4d8[/youtube]
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 23, 2010, 04:30:58 PM
Will probably all be removed within the hour but while its up.


edit: deleted when they got pulled
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Beezy on October 23, 2010, 04:40:59 PM
Gun game, FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

I'm not ready to buy another COD, but that looks so good.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 23, 2010, 09:33:10 PM
Couple more until they get pulled

edit: deleted when they got pulled
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Cormacaroni on October 24, 2010, 07:38:15 AM
In for the PC version - sounds like they have worked hard on the 3D Vision support, which I am enjoying the fuck out of right now :tophat
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 31, 2010, 08:49:21 PM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPTOVQFRggI&hd=1[/youtube]
Title: Calling Nixon right now
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 31, 2010, 09:37:28 PM
[youtube=560,345]7mVOqPSBotY[/youtube]
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: cool breeze on October 31, 2010, 10:02:23 PM
I'm seriously considering getting this and that video helped a lot
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: drew on October 31, 2010, 10:48:18 PM
knife animations in fps' are way too fucking fast
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 01, 2010, 09:00:16 PM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDVm8yAGNpg[/youtube]


(http://imgur.com/GTo1G.png)
(http://imgur.com/c8byn.png)
(http://imgur.com/mdnbC.png)
(http://imgur.com/k7eZl.png)
(http://imgur.com/oKXBr.png)
(http://imgur.com/UFIAN.png)
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: maxy on November 05, 2010, 06:00:33 AM
Ok,my impressions

Game is fully action packed,explosions,bullets fly like crazy,stick your head out and screen will turn red in few seconds,bullets are somehow hitting you even through bunch of friendly AI...so far it has been a warzone
Story-personally I don't like the way it's told,
spoiler (click to show/hide)
flashbacks
[close]
but it's ok...small spoiler

Now to my biggest complaint...INFINITE RESPAWNS are back,if you don't do exactly what game wants you to do,cross some magical line or do something...you are fucked

Two examples
Hallway that leads to the roof,you need to push through(cross some magical line) otherwise they will just keep coming and replacing "empty" spots...died few times and then decided to wait a little,fought 10 minutes,they keep coming...fuck this,push ahead

Warzone,you need to push the enemy back but you can't do that by killing them,you need to set something on fire and then they will stop coming...of course you can freely move through that place afterwards

Friendly AI is also linked to the magical lines,unless you activate it they will stay behind...you can return back,AI will stay there.Also I don't like  enemy "dance" when you hit them...are you dead or not?sometimes they come back and kill you of course

Somehow everything seems sluggish,reloading is slow,switching weapons also,aiming seems pretty imprecise.Maybe i just need to adapt and weapons are outdated :-\

So far MW2>>>>>>>>>>Black OPS
Maybe my opinion will change later...maybe
Infinity Ward :bow2
 :(

INFINITE RESPAWNS  :piss2
 
 Playing it on Hardened,btw



Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 05, 2010, 07:08:05 AM
So far MW2>>>>>>>>>>Black OPS

Not surprising on the SP side. IW was always a lot better than Treyarch on the campaign side. And I thought MW 2 was a pretty great campaign.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: WrikaWrek on November 05, 2010, 07:35:44 AM
MW2 had a terribly told story though, very dissappointing if Black Ops manages to be even worse.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 05, 2010, 07:37:16 AM
Don't care about story in my bro shooters. And I would argue the story in MW 2 was no worse than any other bro shooter ala Bad Company, Halo, or Gears of War.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: WrikaWrek on November 05, 2010, 07:38:40 AM
Not saying the story itself was bad, just the way it was told. Specially compared to Call of Duty 4.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 05, 2010, 07:42:09 AM
Not saying the story itself was bad, just the way it was told. Specially compared to Call of Duty 4.

I found it confusing from a story perspective overall. I didn't really understand it until I read up a story outline on a wiki after I finished it but that tends to happen to me in COD games because they do that information dump in the briefing cutscene before the mission and I tune out.

But the actual mission to mission gameplay and the set pieces were the best the series has ever been in MW 2 imo.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: WrikaWrek on November 05, 2010, 07:48:26 AM
I personally thought Call of Duty 4 was a bit more exciting, maybe because it was paced better and had a story that i was able to follow throughout the game.

Also the ending setpiece of Call of Duty 4 is fucking amazing, much better than Modern Warfare 2.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 05, 2010, 07:50:07 AM
Also the ending setpiece of Call of Duty 4 is fucking amazing, much better than Modern Warfare 2.

I'll agree with that.

I thought on an overall basis though I just liked the other missions a lot more in MW 2 than I did in COD 4. They are more memorable. Plus I liked running around the white house.

Definitely post more impressions Maxy. I was hoping the PC version would leak so I could play it early but so far no cracks...
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: maxy on November 05, 2010, 08:14:53 AM
Playing it right now,not a bad game but it's starting to annoy me,you have to be a good boy and follow the rules.

Character that i have to follow has run through some solid brick wall,like a ghost,lol.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: cool breeze on November 05, 2010, 08:32:40 AM
Also the ending setpiece of Call of Duty 4 is fucking amazing, much better than Modern Warfare 2.

I'll agree with that.

I thought on an overall basis though I just liked the other missions a lot more in MW 2 than I did in COD 4. They are more memorable. Plus I liked running around the white house.

yeah, what I liked about MW2 was that the story seemed more to put you in cool locations and less to be coherent.  I'm not the biggest fan of the newer Call of Duty shooting and all that, but the levels kept me entertained.  You had one that was straight out of The Rock, fighting in the suburbs, an airport, etc.  I think they tried to play it straight in CoD4 and that didn't work for me.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Third on November 05, 2010, 09:59:35 AM
Activision already talking about Call of Duty 2011

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One detail that was revealed was that the Call of Duty series will once again have a fresh first-person installment late next year. "We will launch a new first-person action title during the back half of 2011," Activision Publishing CEO Eric Hirshberg said. This sentiment was later echoed by Activision COO Thomas Tippl, who said that "Next year's Call of Duty will be a first-person shooter."

The executives did not name the game or which studio was developing it. A likely suspect is Modern Warfare 3, which court documents identified as being in development at Infinity Ward as of May. That same month, Activision said the studio, which had lost over 35 members following the firing of its founders in March, continued to work on its "next big project."

A second Call of Duty is also in the works from newly formed studio Sledgehammer Games. Though Activision has said this title would take the Call of Duty series into the action-adventure genre, third-person, a May job listing indicated it would also be a first-person shooter. Activision has not said when the Sledgehammer title will be released, but said it was not the unnamed COD project slated for next year--presumably Modern Warfare 3.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6283588.html?tag=latestheadlines%3Btitle%3B1

Good news. Can't wait until this franshise goes the same route as Guitar Hero and dies off.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 05, 2010, 01:18:10 PM
As long as each dev is given two years to make them I don't really care. There is nothing saying a person has to buy each edition of the game.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: ManaByte on November 05, 2010, 01:23:02 PM
Seeing as how Black Ops has higher pre-orders than MW2, this franchise is going NOWHERE. Third is a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: cool breeze on November 05, 2010, 01:26:10 PM
They should just make "Call of Duty" their "Tom Clancy" in games.  Different types of military games that all carry the name.  It would be cool if they got one crew to do a slower Rainbow Six/SWAT type game, or a Ghost Recon type game, or a Splinter Cell type game.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Raban on November 05, 2010, 01:28:06 PM
sounds like you just want more Tom Clancy games :teehee
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: cool breeze on November 05, 2010, 01:35:58 PM
I want more good Tom Clancy games.  If Ubisoft won't make a real Splinter Cell, maybe Activision will!

Plus Activision has some other military games they're releasing like Apache Air Assault.  They can call it "ACTIVISION PRESENTS: CALL OF DUTY'S APACHE: AIR ASSAULT: RISING" 
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Raban on November 05, 2010, 01:50:18 PM
:lol
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Raban on November 05, 2010, 01:56:40 PM
Also
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZB1JQ_tfbHM[/youtube]
Video game commercial of the year.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: maxy on November 05, 2010, 02:56:29 PM
Played it a little more
It's a decent game,more fun than not,it has some really nice locations,nice action but Treyarch is just not as good as Infinity Ward at scripting and gameplay design.
I've also noticed lots of zombie like enemies,they just rush at you no matter what...and they always seem to hit you even when surrounded by 5-6 friendly AI

One other thing,not sure why this is called Black Ops.I feel like some regular soldier fighting in WW2...fighting hordes and hordes of enemies at large battlefields.Game gives you tons of ammo and weapons and you just blast everything away...almost impossible to run out of ammo,except for heavy weapons. 
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 05, 2010, 03:03:48 PM
Thx for the impressions maxy. I'll probably just hop right into the MP then and come back to the SP when I'm taking a break between MP sessions.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: drew on November 05, 2010, 03:04:59 PM
are there any preorder pluses out there?
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Powerslave on November 06, 2010, 03:17:25 AM
how good is the special ops section? One of the best features from mw2.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 06, 2010, 10:02:13 AM
how good is the special ops section? One of the best features from mw2.

There is no spec ops. Treyarch uses their zombie mode instead.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: archie4208 on November 06, 2010, 10:35:15 AM
Direct2Drive has the PC version for $45 when you use the coupon bigsavings at checkout.  It is a Steamworks game so you are forced to install malware on your computer to play it.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 06, 2010, 11:05:14 AM
Direct2Drive has the PC version for $45 when you use the coupon bigsavings at checkout.  It is a Steamworks game so you are forced to install malware on your computer to play it.
why is direct 2 drive selling it? I thought they took some big stance against games with Steamworks in them. I remember that was the reason they gave for not selling MW2.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: archie4208 on November 06, 2010, 11:13:15 AM
If I recall correctly, they reversed that decision awhile back due to customer complaints.  I would also assume some revenue is better than none, especially considering Steamworks titles include some of the most anticipated in a given year (MW2, Civ5, New Vegas, Black Ops, etc).
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 06, 2010, 11:26:56 AM
If I recall correctly, they reversed that decision awhile back due to customer complaints.  I would also assume some revenue is better than none, especially considering Steamworks titles include some of the most anticipated in a given year (MW2, Civ5, New Vegas, Black Ops, etc).

Yeah I did a little googling and it does look like they reversed themselves earlier this year.  :lol

Quote
Yesterday we reported that IGN's Direct2Drive web site had started selling the PC port of Modern Warfare 2 on its site, reversing an earlier decision not to provide Infinity Ward's best selling shooter game on Direct2Drive because of its use of Valve's Steam client as a requirement to play and update the game. We contacted IGN to find out why it decided to change its mind. Today we got back a response from Julie Uhrman, the general manager of IGN's Digital Distribution division.

In short, Uhrman said it was due to Direct2Drive's users that caused them to reverse its decision, saying, "We asked our customer base and they told us they weren't concerned whether a game came with a third-party client or not. And we listen to our customers." That would seem to leave things open for other Steam exclusive games showing up on Direct2Drive as well. When asked if that was going to happen Uhrman responded with, "Future titles will be decided on a publisher by publisher basis."
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: CHOW CHOW on November 06, 2010, 03:37:11 PM
who's getting it for PC n wants to be my friend on steam
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: drew on November 06, 2010, 09:48:03 PM
nobody lol
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: archie4208 on November 07, 2010, 07:14:42 AM
http://vimeo.com/16581620

:|
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: CHOW CHOW on November 07, 2010, 10:54:35 AM
nobody lol
(http://i.imgur.com/1DJwK.gif)
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: demi on November 07, 2010, 01:06:45 PM
lmao... who is that crying gif of?
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: CHOW CHOW on November 07, 2010, 01:11:42 PM
supposedly a guy from here by the name of Ichirou who might be this awful troll 'President Soetoro' we got at oa.  both live in Japan and apparently have similarities in their writing style

then there's one more cancer who might have migrated from here Dark Shake who's username over there is SSJDBZ123123124 something like that... this is his pic:

(http://imgur.com/BvfhY.jpg)
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: CHOW CHOW on November 07, 2010, 01:16:18 PM
and i didnt mean to imply that people from eb are cancerous, just those 2 (if it's them)
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: demi on November 07, 2010, 01:17:05 PM
lmao... they dont post here anymore so you dont have to worry about that here
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: demi on November 07, 2010, 08:51:25 PM
toys r us has $20 GC and tshirt for Black Ops... gonna just pick it up there
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: G The Resurrected on November 08, 2010, 01:35:31 AM
Bestbuy has an awesome deal if you PM TRU. Buy two copies and get a $50 giftcard plus if you have gaming rewards you get $20 bucks extra (two $10 rewards) granted you have to have a good bestbuy to pm.

Kmart is giving $25 worth of rewards that you can use towards a future purchase, and their copies come with a Black Ops patch. As well you can get $25 off any of the following games if your interested:
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Fable III $59.99 (Xbox 360)
Star Wars Force Unleashed II $59.99 (Xbox 360, PS3)
Fallout: New Vegas $59.99 (Xbox 360, PS3) PC is $49.99
WWE: Smackdown vs. Raw 2011 $59.99 (Xbox 360, PS3)
Dragon Age Ultimate Edition $59.99 (Xbox 360, PS3)
Vanquish $59.99 (Xbox 360, PS3)
Sim 3 $59.99 (Xbox 360, PS3)
Enslaved: Odyssey to the West $59.99 (Xbox 360, PS3)
Grand Theft Auto IV: Complete Edition $39.99 (Xbox 360, PS3)
Rock Band 3 $59.99 (Xbox 360, PS3)
Dead Rising 2 $59.99 (Xbox 360, PS3)
James Bond 007: Bloodstone $59.99 (Xbox 360, PS3)
Uncharted 2: Game of the Year Edition $49.99 (PS3)
Borderlands: Game of the Year Edition $59.99 (Xbox 360, PS3)
Starcraft II $59.99 (PC)
Civilization 5 $49.99 (PC)
Final Fantasy XIV $49.99 (PC)
EA Sports MMA $59.99 (Xbox 360, PS3)
FIFA 2011 $59.99 (Xbox 360, PS3)
NHL 2011 $59.99 (Xbox 360, PS3
Madden 2011 $59.99 (Xbox 360, PS3)
NCAA Football 2011 $59.99 (Xbox 360, PS3)
Tiger Woods 2011 $59.99 (Xbox 360, PS3)
God of War 3 $59.99 (PS3)
Red Dead Redemption $59.99 (Xbox 360, PS3)
Mafia 2 $59.99 (Xbox 360, PS3)
Spiderman: Shattered Dimensions $59.99 (Xbox 360, PS3)
R.U.S.E. $59.99 (Xbox 360, PS3)
H.A.W.X. 2 $49.99 (Xbox 360, PS3)
F1: 2010 $59.99 (Xbox 360, PS3)
Lucha Libre $59.99 (Xbox 360, PS3)
Front Mission Evolved $59.99 (Xbox 360, PS3)
Quantum Theory $59.99 (Xbox 360, PS3)
Transformers: War for Cybertron $49.99 (Xbox 360, PS3)
[close]

I've got $205 dollars worth of coupons to use at Kmart so I'm going there to pick up my 3 copies.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: demi on November 08, 2010, 03:16:36 AM
Wow awesome I guess that'd be useful if a) i needed 2 copies and - oh wait you dont need 2 copies of this game
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: maxy on November 08, 2010, 07:23:53 AM
Finished it.Good game,it has some flaws but overall it's fun to play.Second half is much better,some really great locations and action.Sometimes scripting and gameplay design are not up to snuff but you always want to know what is behind the next corner.

Story is actually good,intriguing.It all makes sense at the end(kinda).Interesting stuff,when you think about it.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: maxy on November 08, 2010, 10:35:00 AM
If you are bored or like spectacles,check UK official launch,starts in about 3 hours

Quote
        * 6.30pm GMT – Behind the Scenes and Build Up

    Inside Xbox’s Dan Maher (MrPointyHead) and Graeme Boyd (AceyBongos) present an exclusive look behind the scenes at Battersea Power Station, home of the Call of Duty: Black Ops UK launch event!

        * 7.00pm GMT – Welcome to the Call of Duty: Black Ops UK Launch Event!

    Live from the Black Carpet as celebs and VIPs arrive for the launch of the most anticipated game in 2010. Also see the Battersea Power Station like never before as it comes under siege from Black Ops commandos…

        * 7.30pm GMT – Multiplayer Tournament & More From the Black Carpet

    Enter Battersea Power Station to watch the UK’s first Black Ops multiplayer challenge and hear from those lucky few to be involved. Featuring a DJ set from Freestyle Games, creators of DJ Hero!

        * 8.00pm GMT – Treyarch Presents…

    The developers of Call of Duty: Black Ops, Treyarch, take the stage to give you an exclusive inside look into how the game was made.

        * 8.30pm GMT – EU multiplayer Tournament

    UK, Sweden, Germany, France, Italy, Netherlands and Spain battle it out in a multiplayer challenge. Featuring interviews with UK challengers.

        * 8.45pm GMT – Treyarch and VIP Interviews

    Treyarch answer your questions about the Black Ops. Submit your questions on the Black Ops Facebook page Wall or on Twitter by using the #CoDLaunch hashtag.

        * 9.00pm GMT – Reaction From an Exclusive Black Ops Feature Viewing

    At 21:00 the doors open for the first ever viewing of an exclusive feature for Call of Duty: Black Ops. Hear the reaction from those who witness it first…

        * 9.30pm GMT – Celebrity tournament

    Watch invited celebrities battle it out as Treyarch invite them to take the stage. Followed by a live DJ set from Freestyle Games.

        * 10.00pm GMT – Countdown to Launch

    With only two hours until Black Ops is available we prepare ourselves for the most anticipated game launch of 2010.

        * 10.45pm GMT – Live from GAME Oxford Street, London

    We cross live to Oxford Street as the queues begin to build for the midnight opening at GAME.

        * 10.50pm GMT – Guest Interviews

    We go back to Battersea Power Station to gather more reaction and verdicts on the game from invited guests and celebrities.

        * 11.00pm GMT – What happened in the US?

    Watch footage from the launch event held in the United States, which took place on 4 November.

        * 11.30pm GMT – Live from GAME Oxford Street, London

    We hear more from the queues outside GAME in Oxford Street as the crowd gets ever closer to getting their hands on Black Ops.

        * 11.45pm GMT – Un-Boxing of the Prestige Edition

    Our presenters unveil the delights found in the Prestige Edition of the game, plus a look inside the VIP goody bags and more music from Rampage.

        * 11.55pm GMT – Live From GAME Oxford Street, London

    We cross one final time to Oxford Street and talk to the first people in the UK to get their copy of Call of Duty: Black Ops!

Live blog
http://www.vg247.com/2010/11/08/call-of-duty-black-ops-launches-tonight-midnight-openings-price-deals-london-premiere-more/ (http://www.vg247.com/2010/11/08/call-of-duty-black-ops-launches-tonight-midnight-openings-price-deals-london-premiere-more/)

Activision will be live streaming the event
http://apps.facebook.com/codblackopsuklaunch/activision/ (http://apps.facebook.com/codblackopsuklaunch/activision/)


Some random thoughts about the game,single player

-longer than MW2
-my ideal game(of this type) would probably be a game that has Black-Ops story,characters,locations and scripting,gameplay design done by Infinity Ward
-lack of destructible elements...game gives you tons of opportunities to play with heavy weapons but at the same time you can't destroy a simple wooden box,in fact heavy weapons are gimped,small impact radius,barely any effect unless you hit you target directly,like with a rifle.Barely used them,only for scripted sequences.
-grenades are only good for scaring enemies...long time to activate,small impact radius 
-Friendly AI tends to stand in front of you...some of them you can kill,some will just yell "check your fire!!!"




Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: ManaByte on November 08, 2010, 10:49:10 AM
Quote
lack of destructible elements

That's the CoD engine for you. If you want destructible environments, play Battlefield.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: maxy on November 08, 2010, 11:04:40 AM

I don't want to destroy buildings,but if I fire grenade,rocket,tank shell few feet close to an enemy...i want him dead >:(

Little example

Armored vehicle,probably 30-50 millimeters explosive shell...a fence with few enemies behind them,total visibility...can't kill,that fence has apparently some huge hitbox...fired few rounds with 10-15 mm gun...all dead

Will try Veteran now
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: maxy on November 08, 2010, 01:44:43 PM
Facebook page is not working for me

You can watch stream here

http://www.ustream.tv/callofdutyblackops#utm_campaign=www.coveritlive.com&utm_source=5319621&utm_medium=social (http://www.ustream.tv/callofdutyblackops#utm_campaign=www.coveritlive.com&utm_source=5319621&utm_medium=social)

Chat is the most interesting part,there are tons of Russian,eastern EU people there,lol
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Robo on November 08, 2010, 02:58:29 PM
nobody lol
(http://i.imgur.com/1DJwK.gif)

 :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: ManaByte on November 08, 2010, 05:48:00 PM
Retail PC version is out. You can play now through Steam. Digital download users still locked out.
(http://i53.tinypic.com/211w207.jpg)
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: drew on November 08, 2010, 06:43:05 PM
they just interviewed some airsoft homos decked out in gear, man it must suck to live in a place where you cant even own a pocket knife :-\
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Raban on November 08, 2010, 06:49:00 PM
Manabyte your Steam games list is pathetic.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 08, 2010, 07:18:35 PM
My Steam games list is thick and veiny.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: archie4208 on November 08, 2010, 07:21:18 PM
The PC version is apparently broken and runs like shit even on the beefiest machines.  :fbm
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: demi on November 08, 2010, 07:22:45 PM
 :D
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 08, 2010, 07:24:41 PM
The PC version is apparently broken and runs like shit even on the beefiest machines.  :fbm

Just wait until Activision releases the "Runs Better" DLC for $15 next week.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 08, 2010, 07:33:11 PM
are you talking about the pirated version?  probably has something to do with whatever hack used

i find it hard to believe a CoD game runs poorly on PC
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: archie4208 on November 08, 2010, 07:40:36 PM
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1570196

Apparently it is only the multiplayer portion that runs poorly.  *shrug*  I'm sure it'll be patched soon, but it is still rather disappointing since Treyarch seemed to be doing everything else right, especially after the MW2 debacle.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 08, 2010, 07:42:21 PM
isn't this a steamworks game?  how are people already playing it if they aren't pirating it?
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Raban on November 08, 2010, 07:43:35 PM
Quote
My Steam games list is thick and veiny.

Mine too :smug
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: archie4208 on November 08, 2010, 07:44:09 PM
isn't this a steamworks game?  how are people already playing it if they aren't pirating it?

It unlocked early in other countries. 
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 08, 2010, 07:48:21 PM
isn't this a steamworks game?  how are people already playing it if they aren't pirating it?

It unlocked early in other countries. 

ah, well, that's a shame then, the CoD games have always run very well for me on just about any PC/OS (you can practically run CoD2 on a netbook)

i won't be getting it for a little while, so it should be smoothed out by then
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Cormacaroni on November 08, 2010, 09:31:24 PM
not available on Steam in Japan, so fruity
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on November 08, 2010, 10:48:58 PM
can't wait to get this and fuck some S up
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: drew on November 08, 2010, 11:13:03 PM
are you getting the 360 version?
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: ManaByte on November 09, 2010, 01:42:41 AM
Manabyte your Steam games list is pathetic.

That's not mine.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Raban on November 09, 2010, 01:57:05 AM
Manabyte your Steam games list is pathetic.

That's not mine.

LIES.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: ManaByte on November 09, 2010, 02:06:02 AM
Shut the fuck up, cheeseburger.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Raban on November 09, 2010, 02:38:41 AM
Shut the fuck up, cheeseburger.

Yeah, hide behind your insults, punk.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 09, 2010, 07:41:08 AM
Off today so I'll go pick up my copy in a few hours. I asked at my local gamestop how many people were going to be at the preorder thing and he said it could be up to 600 so I said fuck that.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: ManaByte on November 09, 2010, 07:47:34 AM
Debating on the Hardened edition. Unlike MW2 this one doesn't have anything as good as CoD Classic.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 09, 2010, 07:52:04 AM
Debating on the Hardened edition. Unlike MW2 this one doesn't have anything as good as CoD Classic.

Only reason to get it would be if you are really into that zombie mode thing with the extra maps in the hardened edition. I'm not so its a pretty easy call for the regular edition.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: FatalT on November 09, 2010, 08:13:54 AM
Holy hell I played this from 12:30 to 8:00.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 09, 2010, 08:32:49 AM
Holy hell I played this from 12:30 to 8:00.

lol. to be honest I'm probably going to spend most of the day playing myself.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: ManaByte on November 09, 2010, 08:50:21 AM
Everywhere around me is sold out, and the Steam version is still locked. Fuck this.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: CHOW CHOW on November 09, 2010, 09:00:17 AM
will someone pls be my friend in the pc version, i have nobodys

id: neapolitan_mastiff
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 09, 2010, 09:06:56 AM
Probably more PC players in the GAF thread chow chow.

I'm a console player when it comes to multiplayer games.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: CHOW CHOW on November 09, 2010, 09:28:52 AM
yeah i remember we played before but i sold my 360 like an idiot.. should hvae kept it because PC gaming blows.  no friends, i feel alone and detached... PC gaming is for the anti-social loner types

also there's no achievements.. Steam achievements suck

im gonna get a new 360 slim in a few months
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: ManaByte on November 09, 2010, 09:29:51 AM
Steam achievements are the EXACT FUCKING SAME as the 360/PS3 ones.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 09, 2010, 09:35:03 AM
yeah i remember we played before but i sold my 360 like an idiot.. should hvae kept it because PC gaming blows.  no friends, i feel alone and detached... PC gaming is for the anti-social loner types

also there's no achievements.. Steam achievements suck

im gonna get a new 360 slim in a few months

Might be some steam people here.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=412540
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: CHOW CHOW on November 09, 2010, 09:38:42 AM
Steam achievements are the EXACT FUCKING SAME as the 360/PS3 ones.
No they're not... they're terrible

- not every game has them (HUGE issue), while every single 360 game and even XBLA games have them
- there's no cumulative score so nobody gives a shit
- you can't easily see your friends scores.. because 1.) they don't have scores and 2.) they're hidden inside the community tab that people rarely visit.  Compare this to Xbox Live and how achievements are front row and center... from the friends blade to the mini dashboard, to the top right of the damn screen.  You can so easily compare your achievements with your friends.. it's encouraged

Steam achievements are worse than Trophies.. they're half-assed and just terrible

Shut up you elitist PC scumbag
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: ManaByte on November 09, 2010, 09:39:41 AM
What I meant is that Black Ops' Steam achievements are the identical ones on the consoles.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 09, 2010, 09:41:46 AM
Anyone confirm how long the game is?

Zombie mode is the only reason why I'd even consider buying this.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 09, 2010, 09:46:36 AM
Anyone confirm how long the game is?

Zombie mode is the only reason why I'd even consider buying this.

Standard Call of Duty length is what most people say. Meaning 5 or 6 hours.

Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: maxy on November 09, 2010, 09:50:14 AM
Anyone confirm how long the game is?

Zombie mode is the only reason why I'd even consider buying this.

Longer than MW2...tons of content here
8-10 hours,or even more...it feels long enough

On higher difficulties of course
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: CHOW CHOW on November 09, 2010, 10:00:27 AM
wish i listened to demi and just stayed an Xfag the entire gen... the 360's clearly the best gaming platform out.  xbox live is the killer app

i don't blame any of you for copping the superior 360 version
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Himu on November 09, 2010, 10:11:02 AM
is mp in this on par with mw2
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: ManaByte on November 09, 2010, 10:12:43 AM
It's Treyarch, so it's better.

WAW multi >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MW2 multi
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 09, 2010, 10:47:15 AM
"Will someone please be my PC friend?"

"PC gaming sucks, fuck you antisocial losers!"

"Why won't anyone be my PC friend?"

(http://www.grimmemennesker.dk/data/media/2/LOL.jpg)
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: CHOW CHOW on November 09, 2010, 11:24:56 AM
^ exactly my point

PC gaming is an empty, detached wasteland

Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: CHOW CHOW on November 09, 2010, 11:27:31 AM
"Will someone please be my PC friend?"

"PC gaming sucks, fuck you antisocial losers!"

"Why won't anyone be my PC friend?"

(http://www.grimmemennesker.dk/data/media/2/LOL.jpg)

so u wana be my friend or not
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Himu on November 09, 2010, 11:29:58 AM
"Will someone please be my PC friend?"

"PC gaming sucks, fuck you antisocial losers!"

"Why won't anyone be my PC friend?"

(http://www.grimmemennesker.dk/data/media/2/LOL.jpg)

she must suck a mean dick
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 09, 2010, 11:33:15 AM
"Will someone please be my PC friend?"

"PC gaming sucks, fuck you antisocial losers!"

"Why won't anyone be my PC friend?"

(http://www.grimmemennesker.dk/data/media/2/LOL.jpg)

so u wana be my friend or not

Sure, join the evilbore Steam group and I'll add you

I won't be getting it for a few days, though
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: CHOW CHOW on November 09, 2010, 11:35:48 AM
"Will someone please be my PC friend?"

"PC gaming sucks, fuck you antisocial losers!"

"Why won't anyone be my PC friend?"

(http://www.grimmemennesker.dk/data/media/2/LOL.jpg)

so u wana be my friend or not

Sure, join the evilbore Steam group and I'll add you

I won't be getting it for a few days, though

Woohoo i made a friend :hyper
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Brehvolution on November 09, 2010, 11:41:44 AM
The PC version is apparently broken and runs like shit even on the beefiest machines.  :fbm

(http://i42.tinypic.com/1jrbb5.jpg)

This is shit if true.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: maxy on November 09, 2010, 11:51:32 AM
Quote
Had things not gone down at Infinity Ward as they did, Modern Warfare 3 would almost certainly be next year's installment. That's still the odds on favorite in some camps, but it's not a certainty.

Infinity Ward is still around, and working on something, even though it has suffered significant staff departures beyond West and Zampella. But Sledgehammer Games, run by Glen Schofield and Michael Condrey, formerly of EA's Visceral Games unit, is the wildcard. The group is working on a FPS Call of Duty game, something Activision publishing CEO Eric Hirshberg implied on last week's earnings call would be next up.

"This [next] Call of Duty title will be first-person shooter, just to make sure there's no misunderstanding there," he said, without directly mentioning Sledgehammer.

That unit hasn't talked specifically about what it's doing with the franchise. But industry sources say Sledgehammer's Call of Duty will be set in the future and feature, for lack of a better term, space Marines
, a very big step for a franchise that has historically based itself on realism.

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/31410/Analysis_What_Lies_Ahead_For_Call_of_Duty.php (http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/31410/Analysis_What_Lies_Ahead_For_Call_of_Duty.php)

Infinite respawning aliens :bow

Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 09, 2010, 12:02:39 PM
Got back with it. Now to emerge myself in it for the day.  :)
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: ManaByte on November 09, 2010, 12:06:49 PM
PC version runs fine on my system with everything maxxed at 1900x1200

i7 870
8gigs RAM
1gig 5770
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on November 09, 2010, 12:13:20 PM
This game is so fucking awesome. Can't believe they got the rights to use JFK, although I guess thats public domain. His voice actor sucks though.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on November 09, 2010, 12:15:05 PM
And yes im on 360 add me fools Methodis I want to play multiplayer.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 09, 2010, 12:54:54 PM
Combat Training is pretty awesome.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: CHOW CHOW on November 09, 2010, 01:04:00 PM
HOLY FUCK @ the campaign...the second mission (the prison break) is absolutely insane.  NO OTHER GAME does intense immersion and scripted sequences like Call of Duty.  The story's actually interesting too...fucking incredible.  Shit's all over the competition.  The production values are through the roof... other shooter campaigns feel like boring uneventful shit compared to this.  Here there's just non-stop intensity and incredible set pieces.  I'm blown away.  Graphics are awesome too (1080p res, all settings maxed). 
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 09, 2010, 01:08:48 PM
The multi-player definitely has a world at war feel. Which is different than MW 2. Its slower and more deliberate in that manner.

IW definitely has the superior graphics engine not that this looks awful or anything by console standards and considering the frame rate.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: ManaByte on November 09, 2010, 01:09:32 PM
BLACK OPS HAS LEAN

MODERN WARFARE 2 IS FOR NON-LEANING distinguished mentally-challenged fellows
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: CHOW CHOW on November 09, 2010, 01:10:29 PM
Forget the multi-player for a bit and dive into the mind-blowing blockbuster campaign...
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: ManaByte on November 09, 2010, 01:10:33 PM
It's the same engine. WaW used the engine enhancements IW made to CoD4 and Black Ops uses the same changes IW did to MW2.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 09, 2010, 01:18:00 PM
It's the same engine. WaW used the engine enhancements IW made to CoD4 and Black Ops uses the same changes IW did to MW2.

I don't think that's actually the case. I believe I read that essentially Treyarch used the enhanced WaW engine. Either way I can tell you it doesn't look as good as MW 2. Not that it matters or anything. The gameplay is the most important thing.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 09, 2010, 01:24:55 PM
Forget the multi-player for a bit and dive into the mind-blowing blockbuster campaign...

I did the first mission. I'll probably be alternating back and forth over the day.


1.5 million people are currently online with the game btw although that number may cover more than MP.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: ManaByte on November 09, 2010, 02:12:49 PM
As expected, PC version hacked to hell. Already level 70 players with all unlocks.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 09, 2010, 02:44:59 PM
Theater mode is very nice also. I'm a COD fanboy but I'm falling in love.

 :-[
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: ManaByte on November 09, 2010, 02:57:28 PM
It's better than MW2. But unfortunately every game "journalist" has their mouth firmly glued to Infinity Ward's collective cock.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: ManaByte on November 09, 2010, 03:27:52 PM
They should have been running CoD since WaW.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on November 09, 2010, 03:28:43 PM
I'm so bad at Multiplayer, I went a whole match without killing anyone god fuckign damnit why can't I be good  :'(
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on November 09, 2010, 03:50:39 PM
Treyarche steals alot more from movies, W@W's best mission was stolen from a 2000 WW2 movie.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 09, 2010, 04:40:24 PM
Nice to see Treyarch not getting shit on for once. They are a good bunch of kids.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: cool breeze on November 09, 2010, 04:44:47 PM
I ordered this because there was a good deal and someone mentioned that multiplayer was slower paced than MW2.  I'll try not to play it until after finals are done, but that never works out.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Brehvolution on November 09, 2010, 04:49:20 PM
Well I guess I'm gonna get the 360 version over PC due to the numerous MP complaints.

I'll probably get it on PC when it gets sorted out since I'm sure I'll be able to trade in the 360 version at a good rate.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: ManaByte on November 09, 2010, 05:41:04 PM
Well I guess I'm gonna get the 360 version over PC due to the numerous MP complaints.

I'll probably get it on PC when it gets sorted out since I'm sure I'll be able to trade in the 360 version at a good rate.

There's nothing wrong with the MP.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: maxy on November 09, 2010, 05:43:19 PM
It's the same engine. WaW used the engine enhancements IW made to CoD4 and Black Ops uses the same changes IW did to MW2.

I don't think that's actually the case. I believe I read that essentially Treyarch used the enhanced WaW engine. Either way I can tell you it doesn't look as good as MW 2. Not that it matters or anything. The gameplay is the most important thing.

IW is(was) pretty protective about their stuff,no love there.There are some really impressive looking levels later in the game though.

btw,apparently PS3 res is a little lower than 360 one
pixel nerds outrage can begin...cancel,cancel,cancel
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 09, 2010, 06:03:29 PM
MP is very good. Taking a break until later but I was really enjoying myself. And I haven't even tried the wager matches yet.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: demi on November 09, 2010, 06:06:39 PM
Need some Vet impressions. Are we talking FRUSTRATING RIP MY DICK OFF World At War?
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 09, 2010, 06:09:47 PM
Need some Vet impressions. Are we talking FRUSTRATING RIP MY DICK OFF World At War?

Some of the people I was playing online with were saying its really hard on Veteran. Mainly due to the respawning enemies parts where you have to just run to a checkpoint.

Can't say myself. I'm playing on Hardened. And maybe later I'll do a Veteran run after I hear how bullshit or not it is.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: demi on November 09, 2010, 06:11:39 PM
Modern Warfare 2 had it good, but it felt really cheese apart from a few spots. World at War was just straight bullshit. I ripped out all my pubes when I finally raised that soviet flag.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 09, 2010, 06:15:41 PM
Modern Warfare 2 definitely was easier on Veteran than other COD games. It was honestly the first one I could stomach on that difficulty level without wanting to kick in my TV.

I always play hardened in COD games because that's the "fun" level for me. Veteran for me is when I'm bored someday and just feel like trying to get that achievement.

Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: maxy on November 09, 2010, 06:18:44 PM
Didn't play much,but it pretty much was...show your head a little,bam bam dead

There is one part with infinite respawns that will make people angry though
Very easy to pass if you know exactly what to do...game sometimes has problems in communicating what you need to do
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on November 09, 2010, 06:20:39 PM
I still have nightmares of WaW on vet. Never did finish the last mission. So many grenades. So many.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 09, 2010, 06:22:17 PM
game sometimes has problems in communicating what you need to do

Yeah, I'm only two levels in and I already noticed some of this. IW is just very good at not putting you in those situations by comparison. I'm enjoying the campaign so far, especially on a story and spectacle level but yeah its noticeable in that regard that its treyarch doing it. Still overall this project is a massive step forward for them. I can't wait to see what they do next time and see how much they improve there also. 

Activision is in good shape with them handling the franchise which I was never really comfortable saying before. 


btw there were 2.4 million people playing just like 30 minutes ago on the 360.  

Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: demi on November 09, 2010, 06:29:35 PM
Need to get my copy on the real. But I'm gonna be broke if until pay if I do.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: cool breeze on November 09, 2010, 06:30:46 PM
do all those wager matches things still give you points to unlock guns?

I remember apologizing to people online when they complained about using the grenade launcher.  "I need it to get the shotgun! I'm sorry!  :'("
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 09, 2010, 06:49:59 PM
never apologize to anyone in a cod game, they deserve everything they get

sometimes when i am leaving or entering my apartment i can hear my next door neighbor screaming curses at people on mw2, and i think to myself that i'd probably team kill him every chance i got
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: CHOW CHOW on November 09, 2010, 06:52:47 PM
Man, I'd definitely try Veteran if I had the superior 360 achievements.  With Steam it's just like... what's the point of putting yourself through that hell? 
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: demi on November 09, 2010, 06:53:40 PM
Naileed it... accept no substitutes. 360 innovates
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 09, 2010, 07:25:45 PM
Wager Matches. Fucking fun.

This game is badass.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 09, 2010, 08:01:08 PM
Party system definitely buggy. Often splits party or just dumps the party. Having a hard time joining playlists also sometimes even though I know plenty of people are playing. Needs a patch there.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: drew on November 09, 2010, 08:05:18 PM
this thread is way too annoying to read with stoney mason on ignore
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: ManaByte on November 09, 2010, 08:24:03 PM
I think all the bitching about the PC MP comes from people playing on shitty ping servers. Been playing on servers with sub-60 ping all day and it's smooth.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 09, 2010, 08:50:09 PM
I think all the bitching about the PC MP comes from people playing on shitty ping servers. Been playing on servers with sub-60 ping all day and it's smooth.

To be fair the console matchmaking is pretty sketchy right now. So maybe some of that carries over to the PC side even with dedicated servers.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: GilloD on November 09, 2010, 09:24:43 PM
Will pirate. I hate the MP in these games. Too competitive. Feels like a sport.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 09, 2010, 09:47:46 PM
Campaign is definitely getting more kickass.

Also


[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVg_SD0rYok[/youtube]
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 10, 2010, 12:38:29 AM
You motherfuckers. I can't fuxking believe I just bought a goddamn Treyarch game. SMH at myself
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: demi on November 10, 2010, 01:09:03 AM
u can send it to me sho nuff, it's cool. i'll play it for you.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 10, 2010, 01:11:07 AM
Nice to see Treyarch not getting shit on for once. They are a good bunch of kids.

You motherfuckers. I can't fuxking believe I just bought a goddamn Treyarch game. SMH at myself

wut
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 10, 2010, 01:14:02 AM
"Good bunch of kids" <> "People who produce things I would pay $60 retail for"

This is the first Treyarch game I've paid full price for
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: ManaByte on November 10, 2010, 01:45:15 AM
I think all the bitching about the PC MP comes from people playing on shitty ping servers. Been playing on servers with sub-60 ping all day and it's smooth.

To be fair the console matchmaking is pretty sketchy right now. So maybe some of that carries over to the PC side even with dedicated servers.

PC version has a server browser.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 10, 2010, 05:33:09 AM
Man this game is pretty nutty. The multiplayer maps, while fun, are seriously uggs though.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: CHOW CHOW on November 10, 2010, 09:02:26 AM
Best Call of Duty of all-time.  Best campaign and best multi-player.

Top 10 game of this gen:

1. Dragon Age Origins
2. Uncharted 2
3. Call of Duty Black Ops
4. Red Faction Guerrilla
5. Mass Effect
6. Ninja Gaiden II
7. Tomb Raider Legend
8. Far Cry 2
9. Transformers: War for Cybertron
10. Bioshock

Assassin's Creed II probably would've been up there but I've never played it.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 10, 2010, 09:30:12 AM
Should check out the Combat Record if you haven't. Best stat tracking they've ever done in a COD game.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: maxy on November 10, 2010, 10:51:25 AM
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-call-of-duty-black-ops-faceoff?page=1 (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-call-of-duty-black-ops-faceoff?page=1)

360 :bow2
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: WrikaWrek on November 10, 2010, 11:08:35 AM
Getting into Nam mission.

Campaign has been pretty shitty. It moves fast, and has lots of explosions, but no sense of danger, accomplishment, of wow, anything that makes things matter.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: maxy on November 10, 2010, 11:47:12 AM
Quote
WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP! MY 22YR OLD SON GOT HIS COPY TODAY AND HE HASNT EVEN EATEN HARDLY ANYTHING ALL DAY I CANT BELIEVE IT!!!!!!!!!! HE IS USUALLY MUNCHING EVERYTHING OUT OF THE FRIDGE/FREEZER BUT I FIND THIS UTTERLY MIND BOGGLING!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE GOD DONT BRING OUT ANOTHER ONE!!!!!!!!!!

Quote
I'd l take a good shag with a curvy woman with big boobs, killer thighs and some crazy booty  dressed in a nursing outfit OVER some crazy call of duty stupid game anyday anytime....... :-)

 :rofl

Quote
"He thinks about it every day and will use every spare opportunity to play it. I can sometimes tell when we are out together that he is watching the clock and trying to work out how long he can play when we get home.

"He practically goes into a cold sweat and gets the shakes."

The couple, from Yateley, Hants, were at a friend's wedding six months ago when Jay said he was going to the bar.

After an hour he hadn't returned, so Janine went up to their hotel room to find him and another wedding guest playing the game.

She explains: "He'd hidden the PlayStation in the car and they had walked half a mile in the rain to get it.

"Sometimes I think Call Of Duty is his first love.



"It has affected our sex life. There have been nights when I've been waiting for Jay to come to bed then woken up at 3am to find he's still playing against a stranger on a different continent.

"Now we have Lauren, Jay has had to calm down a bit. I was over the moon when he volunteered to get up to do night feeds - until I realised why. During the night he will feed Lauren then rock her to sleep in his chair while playing the game in silence.


 :bow2

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/3219853/The-gaming-cult-of-Call-Of-Duty.html (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/3219853/The-gaming-cult-of-Call-Of-Duty.html)
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: drew on November 10, 2010, 11:57:36 AM
lmao, ive had it for a day now and havent even played it yet :lol
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Herr Mafflard on November 10, 2010, 01:16:12 PM
played a bit on 360 today.

campaign - same old cod. respawning enemies. plus half the time i don't know where i'm getting shot from and i die from some asshole like two yards away, and i think, 'didn't I just kill him a second ago?'
Just started 'Nam, hopefully it gets better.

multiplayer - played a couple of mercenary matches - seems awesome so far. everybody seems to be hogging submachine guns tho. dunno why, i'm doing alright with the burst-fire M16 so far.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 10, 2010, 02:10:14 PM
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-call-of-duty-black-ops-faceoff?page=1 (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-call-of-duty-black-ops-faceoff?page=1)

360 :bow2

Times won't get any less tough for :piss RSX budget GPU :piss2
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: bud on November 10, 2010, 02:38:07 PM
the multiplayer sucks so hard

(playing it on the ps3 :'()
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: drew on November 10, 2010, 02:46:39 PM
mud seems to have gone missing, he must have bought the ps3 version :lol
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: bud on November 10, 2010, 02:46:45 PM
i keep getting shot by guys who haven't even lifted their guns; the lag and framerate is killing me

and the sound is just... not there and i've put it on loud

FUCK THIS GAME
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: bud on November 10, 2010, 02:47:47 PM
and these maps are just too big for 6 vs. 6 games

seriously, sometimes i'll walk around for a minute without seeing an enemy

the internet has always told me treyarch sucks. i didn't listen. :'(
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: bud on November 10, 2010, 02:48:25 PM
someone hold me
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Herr Mafflard on November 10, 2010, 06:09:23 PM
gungame is awesome but it doesn't feel as hectic as the Counter-Strike version, perhaps they need to add more players?

I think I might stick to the 360 version of this. I'm not really a fan of playing the modern cods using keyboard/mouse.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: CHOW CHOW on November 10, 2010, 07:10:25 PM
I'm super bad at COD except when I'm in free for all. Kinda think the way they match you up with players should be a bit better. Don't really want to play with the bro who has unlocked all the top shit until I'm closer to his level.

I don't think that's as big an issue as it was with MW1 & 2 because the unlock system now allows us to pick what to buy with the points rather than having to level up 50 times etc
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: pilonv1 on November 10, 2010, 07:29:38 PM
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-call-of-duty-black-ops-faceoff?page=1 (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-call-of-duty-black-ops-faceoff?page=1)

360 :bow2

Times won't get any less tough for :piss RSX budget GPU :piss2

:rofl 960x544 on PS3? jesus christ
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Rman on November 10, 2010, 09:26:21 PM
Looks like COD will be fine.  Infinite Ward or not.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 10, 2010, 11:54:29 PM
Sadly sniping is much harder due to map layouts (much fewer long staightaways on some maps) and the nerfing of some of the perks you could use with it. I say sadly because while I wasn't great at it in MW 2 I had at least gotten decent with it. Some of the nerfing that was done to stop quick scoping (even if you don't quick scope) has just made it plain harder especially since the scope has like a random location when you first put it up. I don't think I like the random location thing. It often takes too long for you to recover so by the time you do some and correct your aim somone is just lighting you up with whatever weapon they had. There should be some relation to where I have my gun in position before I scope in to where it is after I scope in imo.

I've tried a few times to snipe in Black ops and I've just gotten mangled doing it.

Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 10, 2010, 11:59:56 PM
Most maps Ive played seem built for SMGs and Shotguns.

I definitely see where Assault rifles can be useful and there are a couple of maps where its possible to snipe but overall I prefer the map layouts of MW 2. I think they were a little more balanced for all weapon types.

I do agree though that SMG's are very powerful due to the current map layouts because everything is so twisty with lots of objects in them. On some maps there is just very little open area which means close up weapons can be overly powerful since you're always turning corners.

Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Raban on November 11, 2010, 12:40:05 AM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQYVRTOg4BY[/youtube]

Fuck.

:drool

Okay maybe I'm changing my mind about this game. UNGH I DUNNO WHAT TO GET.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Raban on November 11, 2010, 12:50:55 AM
Are there any in-depth PC impressions?
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: maxy on November 11, 2010, 02:04:24 AM
Some inside info about the game,Treyarch and IW situation

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Guys, you have to understand that before the "IW fiasco" Treyarch didn't have access to anything from IW - no help, no assets, no MW2 engine, nothing.
W@W was developed from a MW1 code drop - meaning, "here's bunch of code and assets, go have fun".
So when asking "why is this a step back from MW2" you have to understand from Treyarch's perspective it never was MW2, it was W@W.
By the time MW2 came out (and later the "fiasco" when there was more access to MW2 source code), COD:BO was basically wrapping up.

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It's a complex answer, but let's just say, the 360 was pushed hard, to a place where the PS3 couldn't go with the old tricks. Most of the time the battle was fitting the game in memory, and often to get performance you need to trade even more memory. I can go into details but with such a high profile title I'll quickly get in trouble.

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I'm sorry, but your information is just not correct. IW did have access to W@W, but I don't think they cared.
These games are developed over 2 year periods. By the time the other studio is out you are half way through development, IW's engine is quite massive and convoluted. You can't just go grab bunch of code and expect it to work.
For good or bad, the engines have drifted apart, mostly because IW worked in full secrecy and isolation.

Obviously I might be biased in this case, but I personally don't think BO is a step back from MW2.
Everyone has their opinions, and especially when it comes to "looks" I don't know how we can possibly be objective about it. I think BO has fantastic lighting, character work and weapons.

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The SPUs are pretty heavily used. A lot of engine code runs on them, physics, sound, graphics prep, GPU submission, culling, dynamic geo generation etc.
On 360 the situation is similar, every HW thread is heavily used.


(http://images.eurogamer.net/assets/articles/a/1/2/9/8/6/2/6/360_036.jpg.jpg)

This screenshot reminds me of Metro 2033,a 30 fps game.

Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 11, 2010, 02:10:44 AM
Yeah that is essentially what I had read earlier. The WaW/Black Ops engine is different than the IW engine they used which accounts for a lot of the differences. I think IW was stronger on the tech side. (Even if it was a highly modified version of an id Engine)

Black Ops has some nice lighting in certain areas but their engine doesn't hold 60 quite as strongly or as often as MW 2 did. The gun models are also much better in MW 2. None of this is a diss at Treyarch though. The game is impressive in many ways especially for a 60 fps game.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: ManaByte on November 11, 2010, 03:29:34 AM
Calling the IW Engine an old id Engine is unfair. They used some of the id Tech 3 source code that was pubically released via GNU, but it's not at all like it's a Quake 3 mod.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: maxy on November 11, 2010, 05:52:02 AM
Calling the IW Engine an old id Engine is unfair. 

More like stupid,something that only brainless sheep can say.I see that only in COD bashing threads,when people(sony fans) run out of arguments.

I expect to see lots of "disappointed" people when Rage launches too.


Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: WrikaWrek on November 11, 2010, 07:44:35 AM
Sometimes it's one of the best looking games i've played, others it's just good looking.

Playing on PC btw
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 11, 2010, 09:51:05 AM
Looks like COD will be fine.  Infinite Ward or not.

Pretty much.

I honestly didn't think it would beat the launch of MW 2.

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Black Ops has beaten Modern Warfare 2’s opening day sales to become the world’s largest ever entertainment launch with $360 million in revenue in the UK and North America alone.
 
The 24-hour figure stacks against the $310 million taken by Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 in North America and the United Kingdom last year, according to internal Activision estimates.
 Call of Duty: Black Ops, marks the second year in a row that the Call of Duty franchise has set day one launch records across all forms of entertainment, Activision said today.
 In its first day on November 9, the blockbuster title sold through approximately 5.6 million copies in North America and the United Kingdom, as compared to 4.7 million copies for last year’s Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2.
 “There has never been another entertainment franchise that has set opening day records for two consecutive years and we are on track to outperform last year’s five-day global sales record of $550 million,” said Acti head Bobby Kotick.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: ManaByte on November 11, 2010, 09:53:38 AM
Infinity Ward can take their egos and go rot at EA. Respawn's FPS will be obliterated by CoD 2012.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 11, 2010, 09:57:30 AM
I like Respawn and I also hope the new Infinity Ward comes back with a lot of talent. I hope both come back with great products. More competition is always good for gamers.

I didn't like all the smack talking EA was doing though when the whole thing went down like they were fucking saints or something. And all their big talk about taking back the FPS crown was silly. Medal of Honor had good sales but I guarantee nobody will be playing that title in a month. It was very average for all the shit talking they were doing. And they also shit talked Treyarch. Not a classy move from a company that is always puffing itself up as world class.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Herr Mafflard on November 11, 2010, 11:32:00 AM
Most maps Ive played seem built for SMGs and Shotguns.

I definitely see where Assault rifles can be useful and there are a couple of maps where its possible to snipe but overall I prefer the map layouts of MW 2. I think they were a little more balanced for all weapon types.

I do agree though that SMG's are very powerful due to the current map layouts because everything is so twisty with lots of objects in them. On some maps there is just very little open area which means close up weapons can be overly powerful since you're always turning corners.





I've watched two videos from two separate players (in the theatre mode), both guys were in the high 30s level-wise, and both were dominating with the burst-fire M16.

Like I said before tho, most randoms I see use SMGs, but that's not to say that you can't dominate with an assualt rifle.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 11, 2010, 11:38:22 AM
Most maps Ive played seem built for SMGs and Shotguns.

I definitely see where Assault rifles can be useful and there are a couple of maps where its possible to snipe but overall I prefer the map layouts of MW 2. I think they were a little more balanced for all weapon types.

I do agree though that SMG's are very powerful due to the current map layouts because everything is so twisty with lots of objects in them. On some maps there is just very little open area which means close up weapons can be overly powerful since you're always turning corners.





I've watched two videos from two separate players (in the theatre mode), both guys were in the high 30s level-wise, and both were dominating with the burst-fire M16.

Like I said before tho, most randoms I see use SMGs, but that's not to say that you can't dominate with an assualt rifle.

Agreed on both counts. For some reason I'm having trouble with the M-16 though. It feels different to me than it was in COD 4 and MW 2. I can't quite put my finger on why though but I seem to miss my shots more.... I didn't play WaW online so much so maybe that has something to do with it as this game's gunplay feels more like that. I've been using some of the other assault rifles though.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Herr Mafflard on November 11, 2010, 11:47:35 AM
I didn't play MW2 online much, but my brother who is a CoD fanboy says they sort of nerfed the M16 in BOps. Like in MW2 it was great at any distance and it would bring dudes down really quickly. Now, though, it really sucks at close encounters, and doesn't bring down dudes nearly as quickly.

I guess they balanced it out which is a good thing imo. It seemed overpowered in MW2, and was sort of the 'go to' weapon of choice for most hardcore players, much like how the auto M16 was in Counter Strike for example.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 11, 2010, 02:07:57 PM
Man the campaign is really good. I'm in Nam right now and it's just nutty. I'm blowing off Charlie's arms and legs with a 50 cal.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 11, 2010, 03:06:31 PM
While I may have some issues with some of the scripting the variety is pretty damn good. Some of the missions are just crazy. Which is good.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: duckman2000 on November 11, 2010, 03:13:24 PM
So they actually went all the way and ripped off the whole storytelling bit from Black?
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: drew on November 11, 2010, 03:43:32 PM
still havent gotten past the main menu of this game, i used to be so hardcore :'(
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: drew on November 11, 2010, 04:39:04 PM
is there really? whats his name?
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: bork on November 11, 2010, 05:44:26 PM
So does anyone like this more than Bad Company 2?
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: fistfulofmetal on November 11, 2010, 05:45:23 PM
game runs like complete dogshit on pc
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 11, 2010, 05:49:35 PM
So they actually went all the way and ripped off the whole storytelling bit from Black?

Yep. Except they actually made it good instead of the dogshit from Black.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 11, 2010, 05:50:43 PM
So does anyone like this more than Bad Company 2?

Completely different games imo. They scratch completely different itches regarding MP.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: ManaByte on November 11, 2010, 05:51:12 PM
game runs like complete dogshit on pc

FUD. Runs fine on mine.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: naff on November 11, 2010, 06:03:36 PM
game runs like complete dogshit on pc

FUD. Runs fine on mine.

Gamers and gaming press across the internet are lying. Conspiracy theories run amok.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: ManaByte on November 11, 2010, 06:05:37 PM
People are tying to run the thing on 5 year old systems with less than 3 gigs of RAM. They're also connecting to Multiplayer servers with pings of 200+ and then bitching about lag.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: fistfulofmetal on November 11, 2010, 06:06:27 PM
game runs like complete dogshit on pc

FUD. Runs fine on mine.

maybe your definition of fine is different than mine. i'm running the game maxed out and i'm getting drops to 24-30 fps on the very first shoot out. MW2 ran maxed out at 60fps locked the entire time and looks better than BLOPS (first level at least). friend of mine says he's running it on just high with some settings turned down and he's getting 40-60. sorry thats not running well. pretty obvious its poorly optimized and a pretty shoddy pc port.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: duckman2000 on November 11, 2010, 06:16:51 PM
So they actually went all the way and ripped off the whole storytelling bit from Black?

Yep. Except they actually made it good instead of the dogshit from Black.

The Black story presentation kicked ass.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 11, 2010, 07:28:20 PM
Galil is a pretty good assault rifle. Fires like an SMG but the recoil is much better than typical assault rifles that fire that fast.

Also figured out what my problem was with missing a lot. My sensitivity was too high. I played Modern Warfare 2 on like 7 or 8 and I just immediately upped black ops to the same value but for some reason I can't control it as well that high in this game. So I bumped it back down to like a 4 and that feel much better and I'm missing my shots less.

Still frustrated with the matchmaking in general. Far worse than MW 2. Lots of disconnects or not being able to find games especially in parties. Game needs lots of patches on that front.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 11, 2010, 08:46:09 PM
So does anyone like this more than Bad Company 2?

I prefer the Battlefield series, but CoD is pretty decent for quick arcadey fun.  With BF you feel like you're working towards a goal at all times, and you get a sense of accomplishment just from simple actions like dropping ammo or health packs.  You actually have a bit of time to think about what you're doing and plot out a little strategy with your squad.  With CoD you tend to feel like you're just seeing how long you can run around before someone takes off the top of your head.  But it has attack dogs.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 11, 2010, 08:49:26 PM
game runs like complete dogshit on pc

FUD. Runs fine on mine.

maybe your definition of fine is different than mine. i'm running the game maxed out and i'm getting drops to 24-30 fps on the very first shoot out. MW2 ran maxed out at 60fps locked the entire time and looks better than BLOPS (first level at least). friend of mine says he's running it on just high with some settings turned down and he's getting 40-60. sorry thats not running well. pretty obvious its poorly optimized and a pretty shoddy pc port.

What are your specs?  I'm getting ready to start downloading.  I'm running an i5-760 with a GTX 460 1GB OC. 
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Brehvolution on November 11, 2010, 09:38:17 PM
Dr. Feelbad, your impressions will definitely sway my opinion on going PC or 360. Granted, I don't have the specs your do but if you have issues I know I will x10.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: archie4208 on November 11, 2010, 09:44:23 PM
Looks like a (probable) reason as to why the PC version runs like shit was found (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1579406).  The game is constantly streaming information and if your upload is slow then you get hosed.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on November 11, 2010, 09:50:19 PM
"but it worked just fine over the LAN"
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 11, 2010, 09:59:19 PM
:lol i can already tell you it's gonna run like shit for me, my upload speed is teeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrible
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: CHOW CHOW on November 12, 2010, 12:15:34 AM
Stuck on Vietnam mission:

spoiler (click to show/hide)
the first time you're in vietnam and gotta "hold the NVA back" and they keep saying there's dudes at the "trench line" and i dunno what you're supposed to do... when i move to the yellow marker 30m ahead i get destroyed because they keep coming. When you get to that marker a new one appears 45m to the right but there's no way you can get to it with a million guys there
[close]
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 12, 2010, 12:18:57 AM
Stuck on Vietnam mission:

spoiler (click to show/hide)
the first time you're in vietnam and gotta "hold the NVA back" and they keep saying there's dudes at the "trench line" and i dunno what you're supposed to do... when i move to the yellow marker 30m ahead i get destroyed because they keep coming. When you get to that marker a new one appears 45m to the right but there's no way you can get to it with a million guys there
[close]

Yeah that's what I meant when I said Treyarch for some reason misses obvious scripting clues unlike IW. There are some great missions in the game but a few of them have poor (or no) directions like that one outside of vague clues.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
You have to go up to one of the barrels filmed with napalm and kick it over into the trench. If you advance enough on the left side one of your AI partners does it to one of the barrels and you have to do it to the other one.
[close]
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: CHOW CHOW on November 12, 2010, 12:22:10 AM
Stuck on Vietnam mission:

spoiler (click to show/hide)
the first time you're in vietnam and gotta "hold the NVA back" and they keep saying there's dudes at the "trench line" and i dunno what you're supposed to do... when i move to the yellow marker 30m ahead i get destroyed because they keep coming. When you get to that marker a new one appears 45m to the right but there's no way you can get to it with a million guys there
[close]

Yeah that's what I meant when I said Treyarch for some reason misses obvious scripting clues unlike IW.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
You have to go up to one of the barrels filmed with napalm and kick it over into the trench. If you advance enough on the left side one of your AI partners does it to one of the barrels and you have to do it to the other one.
[close]

Yeah I figured it was something with the barrels because he mentions it at the beginning but I just kept shooting them. Would've took a while to figure that out. Thanks

Campaign is amazing so far...what a perfect time period
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 12, 2010, 12:30:02 AM
Hey, what stick sensitivity do you guys use? Also, any videos out for black ops that go over some tips on how to be better? I

As I mentioned earlier I immediately bumped it up to like 7 or 8 but I couldn't handle it like I could in MW 2 for some reason so I bumped it back down to 4. I was missing way too much with it up higher so I would suggest playing with a relatively low value until you feel more comfortable.

I would also suggest using one of the better smg's if you aren't already as I think those are good beginner weapons and I think this game in particular favors SMG's.

Sea Nanners is a pretty good player and has a few tips here. But mainly I think it comes down to realizing COD is always about who sees who first so that should govern how you move about the map. It's not like Halo where the battles begins once you see each other. In COD the battle is over when one person sees the other person first. So I think the mistake a lot of new people make is that they play too aggressive and too fast and run into the middle of the map. And the worse they start doing the more they start pressing and repeating the same mistakes just more quickly. I think it's better to increase your pace as you feel comfortable rather than just pressing to be pressing. Also watch somebody in theater mode in your games who performs well and see what they are doing as it will give you tips. Also make sure you pick perks and guns that emphasize your play style. Like for an SMG person quick reloading or that one that helps you hip fire is very useful.

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3caqqy3zvE[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNyk2DER8Tw[/youtube]


Here is another.


[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shkWdup0wsw[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTkNUfkDndY[/youtube]



 

Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 12, 2010, 12:31:16 AM
Campaign is amazing so far...what a perfect time period

I'm about halfway through the game and you haven't seen anything yet. Some crazy shit up ahead. But yeah I agree. Great time period. It's like a Vietnam game without feeling overly retro and old school which is neat.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: fistfulofmetal on November 12, 2010, 12:33:32 AM

What are your specs?  I'm getting ready to start downloading.  I'm running an i5-760 with a GTX 460 1GB OC. 


radeon hd 58701gb
4gigs ram
amd phenom x4 940
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: CHOW CHOW on November 12, 2010, 12:55:26 AM
Campaign is amazing so far...what a perfect time period

I'm about halfway through the game and you haven't seen anything yet. Some crazy shit up ahead. But yeah I agree. Great time period. It's like a Vietnam game without feeling overly retro and old school which is neat.

Also the gfx are really nice.  I don't know why people were complaining about them...I don't think they understand how big of a sacrifice 60 fps is.  Black Ops has visuals that look better than most 30fps shooters and it's running @ 60fps, which is insane.  The lighting, character models (faces look great), particle effects, tons of shit going on at the same time... this is an impressive game.  People are really ignorant about 60 fps games and the fact that they have to render twice the frames and content so they criticize them for not looking like Uncharted. I doubt there's more than 2 or 3 devs out there that could make a better looking shooter @ 60 fps than MW1/2 and Black Ops.  These games have tens of millions put into them...they're not budget titles.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: maxy on November 12, 2010, 05:48:18 AM
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Also the gfx are really nice.  I don't know why people were complaining about them...
I don't see much people complaining about graphics,from xbot,PC side of course...the other side,hmmm

Some sales info

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MCV can reveal that new Call of Duty beats previous record holder Modern Warfare 2 by 22 per cent

Call of Duty: Black Ops has sold an incredible 1.4m units over just one day in the UK, UKIE/GfK Chart-Track told MCV.

That’s £58m in revenue.

It marks the biggest day one performance of any game, comfortably beating last year’s Modern Warfare 2 by 14 per cent in units and 22 per cent in revenue.

Last year’s Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 shifted 1.23m units during the same period, generating £47.7m in revenue.
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/41776/Black-Ops-sets-new-UK-day-1-record (http://www.mcvuk.com/news/41776/Black-Ops-sets-new-UK-day-1-record)
I now fully expect that Black-Ops beats MW2 360 numbers...4.2 million in November 2009 NPD
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 12, 2010, 08:35:10 AM
Yep, SP runs pretty poorly for me, drops to sub-30 fps quite often, get weird fps drops in the menus - sometimes down to 5 fps with the cursor skipping everywhere.  I'm running it maxed with medium corpses at 1600x900, which is what I run every other recent COD at and get a rock-solid 60 fps.  Turned off v-sync and still had the drops and hitches.  I'll mess around in the config file later and try some of the temp fixes people have come up with, see if it gets any better.  If you buy it on PC you're likely going to have to do some digging around to fix it yourself until there's a patch.  If you can live with that, and can wait on a patch (I am guessing there will be a SP patch within the next few days, maybe before the weekend is over), go ahead.  But don't just listen to people who tell you this is fud,  there are definitely problems right now, and there is more than a 50% chance it will run like shit for you.  As far as recent components go, my system is a pretty common build, so the bewildered dev response to the problem strikes me as very disingenuous.  This is absolutely a case of "we'll fix it later, just get it out the door." 
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 12, 2010, 08:39:28 AM
Yep, SP runs pretty poorly for me, drops to sub-30 fps quite often, get weird fps drops in the menus - sometimes down to 5 fps with the cursor skipping everywhere.  I'm running it maxed with medium corpses at 1600x900, which is what I run every other recent COD at and get a rock-solid 60 fps.  Turned off v-sync and still had the drops and hitches.  I'll mess around in the config file later and try some of the temp fixes people have come up with, see if it gets any better.  If you buy it on PC you're likely going to have to do some digging around to fix it yourself until there's a patch.  If you can live with that, and can wait on a patch (I am guessing there will be a SP patch within the next few days, maybe before the weekend is over), go ahead.  But don't just listen to people who tell you this is fud,  there are definitely problems right now, and there is more than a 50% chance it will run like shit for you. This is absolutely a case of "we'll fix it later, just get it out the door." 

I think there was some kind of patch last night but since I don't play it on the PC platform I don't know if it improved anything. Maybe I'll download the PC version via the "usual methods" just to see how it runs on my machine as I'm curious.

http://www.vg247.com/2010/11/12/black-ops-first-pc-patch-targets-performance-improvement/#more-128769



Also they put up some update info for the console versions.

Hey 360 gamers,

We are listening to you and we’ve been busy working on updates based on feedback from the community. We have already deployed a number of updates, and there will be many more to come. Stay tuned right here for all the latest info.

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LIVE FIXES
11/5
- Villa: User can clip into rock at west edge of grid zone B2 and see through to the other side
- Crisis: User can clip into LVT between grid zone A3 and B3 and see through to the other side
- User can get an infinite number of 'Sam Turret', 'Care Package' and 'Sentry Gun' killstreaks (commonly referred to as the “care package glitch”)

11/9
- Radar sweep when there are only 2 players left in One in the Chamber will stop functioning if the 2 players have multiple lives when the sweep starts
- Crash when viewing content (films, clips, etc) in the Community & Recent Games menu

11/10
- Users’ rank and stats can get wiped under very specific conditions

11/11
- Online number counts were not updating properly; these are now reporting exact online numbers
- Parties getting disbanded when host did not find a match quickly
IN PROGRESS
- Improved matchmaking to find matches faster
- Improved match and host selection; will result in much better networking conditions for all games (a.k.a., decreased lag)
- Weekly and Monthly leaderboards stats reporting incorrectly for kills, deaths and assists (All Time leaderboard not affected by this)
- Additional improvements to party system
Regards,
-JD

http://www.callofduty.com/board/viewtopic.php?f=73&t=313362
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 12, 2010, 08:44:58 AM
That was a MP patch, which seems to have worked for most people.  I haven't tried MP yet, won't be able to until later when I get home from work.  SP still has problems according to the ragenerds on the Steam forums, but Treyarch has acknowledged they're working on it.  I got the game as a gift from a friend so it doesn't bother me too much to wait on a SP patch, but if I'd spent $60 on it I'd definitely be pretty hot about the performance.  It skips and stutters like crazy.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 12, 2010, 08:49:04 AM
That was a MP patch, which seems to have worked for most people.  I haven't tried MP yet, won't be able to until later when I get home from work.  SP still has problems according to the ragenerds on the Steam forums, but Treyarch has acknowledged they're working on it.  I got the game as a gift from a friend so it doesn't bother me too much to wait on a SP patch, but if I'd spent $60 on it I'd definitely be pretty hot about the performance.  It skips and stutters like crazy.

Oh okay. Didn't know about that. Yeah normally the COD games play pretty well on the PC since they are really console games at heart just on better hardware. PC's are generally over-powered to play them.

I remember WaW running really well on the PC when I tried it so its weird this one is much worse.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: ManaByte on November 12, 2010, 08:52:49 AM
MW2 skipped and studdered like crazy on Windows 7. They had to patch it to fix it.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 12, 2010, 08:53:35 AM
It does look great, though!  Those guys really know their fire/explosion/particle effects, there's shit flying everywhere.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 12, 2010, 08:57:45 AM
I think I am running into the "buying/obtaining PC games on Day One" problem.  Usually I wait it out until there are price drops, by which time most problems have been fixed.  I'll just play some Mafia II until they get all that crap worked out (that game is gorgeous on PC). 
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Brehvolution on November 12, 2010, 10:10:38 AM
Thanks for the heads up on the PC side, Eel. Financially, it doesn't look like I could get it for another 2 weeks anyways so hopefully it will be up to par by then.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on November 12, 2010, 11:20:28 AM
I think I am running into the "buying/obtaining PC games on Day One" problem.  Usually I wait it out until there are price drops, by which time most problems have been fixed.  I'll just play some Mafia II until they get all that crap worked out (that game is gorgeous on PC). 

yeah, I had that problem when I played Dragon Age: Origins. my build was fucked which probably explains part of why I hated the game so much - I played a dual-wielding dagger rogue - secondary weapons weren't contributing and Rogues were using Strength instead of Agility as their primary stat for like the first 6 weeks. PC gaming!
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 12, 2010, 11:44:33 AM
It's never going to go away completely - there'll always be driver issues, older hardware/OS incompatibility, etc.  There's no way around that, it's always been around.  But when it works, it's awesome.  If I had to play Fallout NV on console without using those Skeleton Key and Instahacker mods I installed, I'd be tearing my hair out.  I despise those minigames worse than any Wii minigame I've ever played.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 12, 2010, 06:39:10 PM
Finished up the campaign.

My impressions remained pretty much consistent throughout. A lot of really good missions let down in some places by unclear or poor directions. But for Treyarch it was a big improvement. I really like how they tell the story with cutscenes and such. Really a big improvement for the franchise in that regard.

I enjoyed MW 2 more because it was more consistent but the highs of Black Ops are actually better than MW 2. It's just that the lows are lower because of some of the issues I mentioned earlier.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Raban on November 12, 2010, 07:56:11 PM
I'm about to buy this on Steam. I bought this. I'M SO ASHAMED.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 12, 2010, 10:44:17 PM
Tried messing around with a few things, no dice. Still getting drops from 91 fps down to 20 in SP.  Completely unplayable.  MP is the same, stuttering and crazy fps drops.  What a clusterfuck.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 12, 2010, 11:59:37 PM
OH SHIT. The bit where you play as the

spoiler (click to show/hide)
SR71 guy moving the troops around, then you jump into the actual dudes on the ground, is mad fuckin awesome.
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Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: iconoclast on November 13, 2010, 12:35:26 AM
Been playing this on Veteran for a little bit. Up to mission 4 I think. Glad to see the classic CoD game design of infinite enemy spawns remains intact. Treyarch definitely gets Call of Duty.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Raban on November 13, 2010, 01:38:38 AM
OHMAHGAH this game is so fucking good. The campaign is amazing, and the Multiplayer is awesome. I dunno what crack peeps are smoking, but I have no frame issues in single player. MULTIPLAYER on the other hand is a much different story. It's 50/50. Sometimes I get a completely no-lag server, other times I get a server with so much lag it's like watching a slideshow.

Nevertheless, this game is amazing. Campaign shits all over both MW games. Infinity Ward can suck infinite dicks for all I care. At least Treyarch isn't trying to be all "edgy" and shit. The plot's really simple and straightforward.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Raban on November 13, 2010, 02:02:01 AM
Nah I'm a couple hours into it, Multiplayer was calling my name.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on November 13, 2010, 11:53:10 AM
just beat it pretty good sp best CoD one so far
spoiler (click to show/hide)
that was gay how mason kills kennedy, and that footage is still unnerving even today
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Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Raban on November 13, 2010, 04:22:57 PM
Beat it. 5.5 hours. Best CoD campaign in the series, hands-down. I disagree with Stoney's criticism that the lows are lower than MW2. I can't thing of a single mission in this game that I didn't like, aside from
spoiler (click to show/hide)
the one where you're in the hazmat suit, fuck that stupid stage.
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Everything else was fantastic, though. Really loved the presentation and pacing.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 13, 2010, 04:50:05 PM
I agree, best Cod campaign I've ever played, the fact that they had the freedom to jump around a lot and do flashback missions was great.

I heard that it turns out you
spoiler (click to show/hide)
kill Kennedy, but I thought it was going to be some weird mindfuck mission, like you start doing some sniping mission in Russia or something, and then after you nail the guy the screen melts away and OH NO YOU'RE ON THE GRASSY KNOLL
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In any case the story was great, and Treyarch's proven themselves as the new masters of the franchise. I'm so shocked, but pleasantly so
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on November 13, 2010, 04:54:04 PM
what was the "no russian" mission that they couldve done in this game? weekend confirmed said they saw it a mile ahead and surprised they didnt do it?
spoiler (click to show/hide)
was it actually shooting kennedy in texas at the end?
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Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Raban on November 13, 2010, 06:00:57 PM
No, you don't kill Kennedy. Stfu and play the fucking game.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 13, 2010, 06:03:12 PM
Beat it. 5.5 hours. Best CoD campaign in the series, hands-down. I disagree with Stoney's criticism that the lows are lower than MW2. I can't thing of a single mission in this game that I didn't like, aside from
spoiler (click to show/hide)
the one where you're in the hazmat suit, fuck that stupid stage.
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Everything else was fantastic, though. Really loved the presentation and pacing.

I've seen a number of people say its their favorite campaign in a COD game and I totally get that opinion. It certainly has some of the best missions I've ever played in a COD game. I just didn't care for a few specific parts in missions that I thought were poorly scripted. But overall I quite enjoyed it. I don't want to give the impression that I didn't like it. I thought it was very fun. And some of the missions are an absolute blast.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
The prison escape bit.
The helicopter portions were very fun.
The part where they give you the crossbow.
The vietnam part before and after the boat

All fucking outstanding.
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Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Raban on November 13, 2010, 06:04:34 PM
Oh don't worry, I knew where you were coming from, I was just expecting some serious lulls in the pacing after reading your post, but found nothing of that kind.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 13, 2010, 06:07:17 PM
Oh don't worry, I knew where you were coming from, I was just expecting some serious lulls in the pacing after reading your post, but found nothing of that kind.
The pacing is definitely exceptional. You never do any one mission or any one thing in the game too long before you get sick of it. That's good shit. My lows comment was more directed at the points where I felt it would have been so cool to get past some of the things the first time which I didn't do in some cases because I was waiting for my cue on what to do exactly. To be fair there are only a few of those but maybe because I was enjoying myself so much they stood out even more in my mind.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Raban on November 13, 2010, 06:08:53 PM
Oh don't worry, I knew where you were coming from, I was just expecting some serious lulls in the pacing after reading your post, but found nothing of that kind.
The pacing is definitely exceptional. You never do any one mission or any one thing in the game too long before you get sick of it. That's good shit.

Seriously. MW2 had this problem out the ass.

Dude, a friend of mine dislikes the campaign to this game because he felt the plot twist was terrible and ruined the entire game for him. I'm telling him he's an idiot for expecting anything more and he says "I'm sorry you can't have an emotional response to game storytelling". I lol'd.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: iconoclast on November 13, 2010, 08:55:32 PM
:lol second mission in a row that's only made difficult by infinitely respawning enemies. It's baffling how people think CoD campaigns are anything but trash.

Watched a video and found some random area where you can get a checkpoint. yay game design
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: iconoclast on November 13, 2010, 09:45:01 PM
Nah, that part was distinguished mentally-challenged. Somehow you're supposed to know that you need to
spoiler (click to show/hide)
stick a knife in a barrel in order to trigger the checkpoint, even though there's a waypoint leading to the bottom of the hill.
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Otherwise you'll face an endless amount of enemies that respawn two seconds after killing them. Finished it on my first try after watching a video and shaking my head.

I'll probably wind up finishing in 8 hours or so as well. No idea how many missions there are, but I figure I'm probably 40-50% of the way through by now.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Raban on November 13, 2010, 09:51:41 PM
Nah, that part was distinguished mentally-challenged. Somehow you're supposed to know that you need to
spoiler (click to show/hide)
stick a knife in a barrel in order to trigger the checkpoint, even though there's a waypoint leading to the bottom of the hill.
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Otherwise you'll face an endless amount of enemies that respawn two seconds after killing them. Finished it on my first try after watching a video and shaking my head.

I'll probably wind up finishing in 8 hours or so as well. No idea how many missions there are, but I figure I'm probably 40-50% of the way through by now.

What. I never had anything like that.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: demi on November 13, 2010, 09:59:33 PM
Hardened

rofl
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 13, 2010, 10:06:06 PM
As soon as you move down there,

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Woods kicks the first barrels and both him and Ed Harris yell at you until you do the rest. I play with subtitles on so perhaps it was easier for me to know what to do. Though I died a few times because that A.I. can one shot you like a motherfuck.
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I... I don't remember ever doing this. What mission is this?
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 13, 2010, 10:07:47 PM
As soon as you move down there,

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Woods kicks the first barrels and both him and Ed Harris yell at you until you do the rest. I play with subtitles on so perhaps it was easier for me to know what to do. Though I died a few times because that A.I. can one shot you like a motherfuck.
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I... I don't remember ever doing this. What mission is this?

This one.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/113/1134052p1.html

It's definitely a confusing part of that mission. Because if you don't sort of play it in a certain way, certain things won't happen that sort of make it obvious what to do. Especially at higher difficulty levels where you can be killed so easily that you aren't really paying attention to secondary things that are going on because you are just trying to survive.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: maxy on November 14, 2010, 01:50:46 PM
Veteran shows problems that game has with scripting,infinite respawns and checkpoint placement.I'm curently at the first infinite respawn area(corridor) and the game has decided to teleport me 5 minutes back each time I die.So each time I have to kill like 10-15 enemies to even reach the corridor,push through infinite respawns  and pray that some respawn doesn't blast me in like 2 hits...Friendly AI is basically useless there,they just stand in my way

Funny thing is that on hardened game checkpoint me right before the corridor,now it takes me 5 minutes back.
 :lol >:(
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Herr Mafflard on November 14, 2010, 04:42:05 PM
this game is so fucking awesome online. just had some awesome matches. the barebones playlists are great if you wanna bring it down - no killstreaks, no perks, just you and your gun (lost a 5.50 k/d ratio in the last few minutes of a  team deathmatch  :().

got up to lvl 14 and sorta got my three main classes down now: 2 assault rifles classes and 1 submachine gun class.

First up I have a burst-fire M16 with reflex sight and silencer. Perks: Hardline, Warlord and Second Chance. This is my go-to class.

Secondly, Famas with extended clip and red dot sight. Perks: same as above. I change to this class when I find myself unexpectedly rushing through maps with a burst-fire M16 - not a good idea.

Lastly, the AK74u with grip attachment. Perks: Hardline, Steady Aim and Tactical Mask. Amazing indoor and short range weapon.


I also find it amazing that some of you are playing this game with aim sensitivity all the way up. Default 2 is the sweet spot for me. Even when I push it up to 3, it feels too fast.




Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 14, 2010, 06:53:10 PM
Yeah, Ive been playing with it between 5-7 and while I do alright sometimes, I find myself missing a ton of dudes by fucking pixels and it pisses me off. I think playing at 2-3 is where I need to be. It's where Ive done the best.

Yeah that's definitely the right place to be. The higher sensitivities are indeed very twitchy and take a lot of work to get use to.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: G The Resurrected on November 14, 2010, 07:30:17 PM
what was the "no russian" mission that they couldve done in this game? weekend confirmed said they saw it a mile ahead and surprised they didnt do it?
spoiler (click to show/hide)
was it actually shooting kennedy in texas at the end?
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That could have been a very interesting level if done properly. I know it is kinda insensitive as Kennedy was renowned as one of our best presidents but it would have been awesome.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 14, 2010, 08:59:54 PM
Have played quite a bit now. I'm at level 40 or something.


Overall very enjoyable MP. Balances out of some of the more annoying aspects of MW 2 but still keeps a lot of the fun stuff. I hope they un-nerf sniping. They really went too far in that regard. Middle distance combat in general should be buffed a bit. The automatics and the fast firing smgs can really control a lot of the maps currently. The game also needs some matchmaking patches as the party system currently is broken. Spawning also needs to be adjusted.
Title: COD: BO PC stuttering fix, may work for you
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 14, 2010, 10:58:38 PM
On the Steam forums I found a simple tweak that worked for me and solved my fps drops and stuttering, may work for you as well if you're having the stutter problem.  All you do is enable v-sync, and turn shadows completely off.  Getting a solid 60 now, whereas before I was dropping into the low 20s every few seconds.  I've found that I can also turn off v-sync and remain in the 60s-90s, as long as I keep shadows off.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Herr Mafflard on November 15, 2010, 04:52:32 AM
Anyone else noticing the amazing number of penis shapes dominating many playercards online? Who knew there could be so many ways a penis could be represented - and so lucidly. I've seen one where the guy has managed to make an outstretched arm gripping a phallus (replete with testicles) that has white pearls shooting off its end. I'm rather dismayed now that all I have to show on my playercard is an edgy (or so I thought!), but quite impotent, death skull.

This made me wonder. Is this an artistic expression of the homoerotic undercurrents that permeates the 'dudebro' subculture of the CoD scene?

In any case, I salute them and their new-found creative ability to represent cocks of all shapes and sizes, and to display it so proudly.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: iconoclast on November 15, 2010, 06:12:23 AM
Finished the campaign and all the single player achievements. was pretty fun, except for the few areas that have infinite respawning enemies. they will probably never learn at this rate.

guess i'll do the online achievements later today. fucking hate zombie mode and cod online in general. ugh.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Herr Mafflard on November 15, 2010, 01:14:14 PM
awesome easter egg for multiplayer:

if you quickly shoot the heads off all the mannequins in the map Nuketown, the song Sympathy For The Devil starts playing in the background for everyone.

[youtube=560,345]2kzRcJfC8WU[/youtube]
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 15, 2010, 01:24:08 PM
Won my first gun game last night. Shit is intense.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 15, 2010, 01:39:59 PM
this game is pretty tight, i'm digging the single player storyline
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 15, 2010, 11:54:31 PM
Some good info for the MP



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Damage starts at one amount of damage, decreases over a certain range and continues at a lower damage.
The Red line indicates the basic damage. The Green line indicates damage range with a silencer (or the Python's Snub Nose).
Certain body parts multiply damage from attacks.
Note that the L96A1 has an extra damage modifier. The shoulders and biceps also take 1.5x damage.
All shotguns' minimum damage is 10.
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A weapon's Hip Spread is determined by a minimum and maximum cone of fire in degrees from the center of the screen.
Shotguns from the hip are much less accurate than they used to be before. Aim down the sights with them to make them a bit more effective.
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Recoil is an area within four points and the random chance of the weapon kicking in those directions.
The view kick is made of four forces. When two numbers are in opposing directions, they fight one another.
The kick focuses on the average between the two, so if a weapon kicks left 10 and right 60, the kick will always be to the right.
If a weapon kicks 60 both left and right, the sights have equal chance of jumping either way.
If both numbers are on one side of the arrows, then it'll always kick in that direction.

Working against the recoil is Center Speed (number in the bottom right of the Recoil box) which is an arbitrary number. Higher Center Speed means faster recovery.
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A weapon's Fire Time is the time between each shot.
Divide 60 by the Fire Time and you get the Rounds Per Minute.
The L96A1 and Stakeout use RechamberTime, basically the same as FireTime, but there to prevent you from skipping the bolt/pump animation.
The burst fire weapons have a 0.2 second delay between bursts, cutting their damage down significantly.

Each weapon has a specific Reload Time for partial and Empty magazines.
For both of these reloads is the Add Time, the point where the Ammo Counter changes.
The Add Time indicates the point where you can cancel the reload animation and still have a reloaded weapon.
Some shotguns and the Python reload one round at a time. The first round takes longer than the following rounds.
The Python's Speed Loader time is also indicated in place of the Add Time (which is irrelevant for the Python).
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Raise Time and Drop Time are the lengths it takes to put away one weapon and take out another.
Combine one gun's Drop with another's Raise to see how long it will take.
NOTE: Switching from one weapon to a Pistol will cause your weapon in hand to use Quick Drop, only 0.25 of a second.

Aim Down Sights takes a moment before the sighted accuracy takes effect after pressing the ADS button.

Depending on the weapon you're carrying, your character will have his running speed changed.
Like Call of Duty 1 and 2, it is no longer based on your primary; what is in your hand determines your speed.
Meaning if you switch to a pistol, you will run faster than whatever assault rifle or LMG you've got.



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http://denkirson.xanga.com/735016527/black-ops/
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 16, 2010, 09:29:26 PM
Kinda cool. You can upload any thirty second clip from Black Ops to youtube.


[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79Z4rVCcxBk&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 16, 2010, 11:46:00 PM
I'm so terrible at the competitive side of this game

I get my ass handed to me in combat training :(
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 16, 2010, 11:50:03 PM
I'm so terrible at the competitive side of this game

I get my ass handed to me in combat training :(

The bots aren't bad. They are great with their accuracy so confronting them head on is a bit tough as they will light you up but their movement isn't very good so they are pretty easy to flank.

As far as actual online, I've been feasting on all the noobs playing the game. I can tell a lot of new people are playing this one because they are terrible.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Brehvolution on November 17, 2010, 09:35:18 AM
I really wish I got this over New Vegas. :fbm
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: cool breeze on November 18, 2010, 01:16:18 AM
single player so far is, uh, I have no idea.  It's a bunch of sketchy imagery and then it's gunshots and someone yelling at me to go to a yellow arrow.  It's a kinda boring and a bit too scripted even for CoD standards.  I hope there are more of the slower paced missions coming up.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: iconoclast on November 18, 2010, 01:51:24 AM
There's a few slower paced missions coming up, but for the most part it's a typical CoD campaign with scripted events firing off left and right. I enjoyed it though. It's one of the better CoD campaigns imo.

CoD4 > BLOPS > CoD2 > MW2 > WaW >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CoD3
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 18, 2010, 06:11:12 AM
First title update out.

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# 11/17 (full title update)
 # · Improved matchmaking to find matches significantly faster
 # · Improved matchmaking to ensure that players are more effectively matched to games with the best networking conditions
 # · Improved host selection to ensure that the best host is always selected in the pre-game lobby
 # · Improved party system to ensure that parties don’t get broken apart
 # · Disable ability to join Private Match, Combat Training and Theater lobbies when searching for Player Match games
 # · Server-side and game-side changes to decrease the amount of failed Film uploads
 # · Weekly and Monthly leaderboards will now track all kills, deaths and assists properly (All Time leaderboards were not affected by this)
 # · Prevention of Combat Training stats getting crossed with Player Match stats under rare conditions
 # · Prevention of temporary loss of functionality when a button was being held down at the point of a disconnect
 # · Additional fine-tuning of audio levels and ranges for footsteps and gunfire
 # · Additional fine-tuning of audio levels for bomb plants/defuses
 # · Additional online security enhancements
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: maxy on November 18, 2010, 08:49:05 AM
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"Black Ops did $650m worth of business during its first five days on sale worldwide"
MW2 was at $550m

So this would be like...10 million copies in 5 days.

crazy
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: cool breeze on November 18, 2010, 10:06:36 PM
single player was so-so.  I'm one of those people that didn't like the CoD4 campaign but liked parts of MW2, so, yeah.

and zombie mode is actually hilarious
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: cool breeze on November 19, 2010, 12:53:37 AM
Multiplayer is choice.  Already the currency system is better than the unlocks because I have a red dot sight right away for any gun.  Though, the unlocks still there for weapons and whatnot is good.  I'm excited to unlock the ballistic knives because the little time I used them in the gun game made them seem great for how I like to play.

I don't know how many wage matches there are, but I played two rounds on gun game.  First time I was horrible because I couldn't shoot with a lot of the guns.  Second time I was dominating until I got to the end and someone was saying I was a bot ( :smug) and while I was typing a response someone took me down to the crossbow.  The crossbow I suck with and the only reason I hit the time before was pure luck.  Then the match ended with me being on the top, so, got the bank anyway.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Cormacaroni on November 21, 2010, 09:05:00 AM
Just started playing on PC in 3D, holy fucking SHIT. Probably the best implementation I've seen of it yet.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: cool breeze on November 21, 2010, 11:57:33 AM
The multiplayer is really good.  Parts of it feels like a step back from MW2 (like no deathstreaks), but it also feels much more balanced and fun to play.  So far I don't see people just using annoying and cheap tactics to win.  I've played for a few hours and only saw one person spamming the grenade launcher  :o

Wager matches are also really fun.  Well, gungame and one in the chamber are both awesome while sharpshooter is kinda dull.  Don't know if there is another type.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 21, 2010, 01:11:43 PM
The multiplayer is really good.  Parts of it feels like a step back from MW2 (like no deathstreaks), but it also feels much more balanced and fun to play.  So far I don't see people just using annoying and cheap tactics to win.  I've played for a few hours and only saw one person spamming the grenade launcher  :o

Wager matches are also really fun.  Well, gungame and one in the chamber are both awesome while sharpshooter is kinda dull.  Don't know if there is another type.
It's basically a modified version of MW 2 with some nice balance changes. The no death streaks is a good thing. I get why it was there to encourage newcomers but I think the training mode serves that purpose a lot better.

The other wager match is Sticks and Stones. They are all fun although I like one in the chamber and gun game the best.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 21, 2010, 02:16:45 PM
Just started playing on PC in 3D, holy fucking SHIT. Probably the best implementation I've seen of it yet.

are you using the nvidia shutter glasses, or just the red/blue
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: cool breeze on November 21, 2010, 03:25:51 PM
That's messed up.  Does Garbage have the ability to at least understand of what Spawning is doing?
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Herr Mafflard on November 21, 2010, 03:47:42 PM
[youtube=560,345]Y5BXrtmfFWI[/youtube]

would have been awesome if i kept this gungame run going - was getting rushed one by one lol
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 21, 2010, 04:34:43 PM
would have been awesome if i kept this gungame run going - was getting rushed one by one lol

You definitely get some runs going sometimes where you feel like a badass in gun game. Conversely sometimes you get stuck on one weapon where you just want to murder somebody. And then you get humilated and demoted.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: cool breeze on November 22, 2010, 01:09:04 AM
the one time I wanted to make a clip of a match and it doesn't show up in my recent games list  :'(

In generally I don't play conservatively meaning I have just as many deaths as I do kills.  I had an awesome run where I was tomahawking and stabbing people all over the place.  I run behind some cover and realize I need one more kill to get a 7 kill streak (rare for me).  I decide to throw down my crate beacon and just as I do an enemy runs around the corner and it smacks him right in the face.  Then my helicopter rolls in and saves the day.

and I tried out the sticks and stones mode.  Not as bad as sharpshooter, but it would have been something special if they didn't have explosive arrows.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Cormacaroni on November 22, 2010, 03:59:38 AM
Just started playing on PC in 3D, holy fucking SHIT. Probably the best implementation I've seen of it yet.

are you using the nvidia shutter glasses, or just the red/blue

The NVidia shutter glasses (i.e. stereoscopic 3D). My buddy at NVidia hooked me up with both the game and the glasses :bow

Been feeding him my old comics for months now and it has finally paid off :)
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 22, 2010, 11:00:21 AM
Ive tried my hardest but I just can't get slight of hand pro. Reloading in the middle of kills is something I never need to do.

I didn't have too much trouble with that one. Just use an smg with a small clip and eventually you will get it.

Also found these two videos. Kind of helpful.

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0toDpPsLiY&feature=related[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZKi3M-q5aI&feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_310794[/youtube]
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: maxy on November 23, 2010, 07:34:34 AM
Pachter strikes again

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He’s been on the bandwagon for some time now, and once again analyst Michael Pachter has declared his belief that Activision will introduce a premium paid-for element for Call of Duty online.

The analyst now claims that Activision decided not to unveil the service prior to the release of the record-breaking Black Ops for fear that such an announcement might damage sales of the game. But with the launch out of the way, Pachter believes confirmation is imminent.

“I think everyone will be offered the same multiplayer options for free that they have now,” he told Industry Gamers. “In addition, I see premium items offered as virtual goods for a modest fee – let's say $1.

“I think that the company will ‘tier’ its offering by offering a $5 per month subscription to Black Ops that includes ALL virtual items for free, plus access to all map packs released as long as the player remains active. There are probably going to be three $15 map packs, so that feature alone has a perceived $45 value, and I'm sure that there will be dozens of virtual items, so the $5 subscriber will perceive some value from subscribing.

“In addition, the $5 subscriber may be offered exclusive tournaments, game play modes, ladders, achievements, and any other features that Activision can think up to induce them to pony up more money.”

However, Pachter’s detailed prediction doesn’t stop there.

“Next, I think Activision will offer a $10 subscription to ALL Call of Duty games,” he added.

“Anyone paying $10 per month gets virtual items, ladders, tournaments, achievements, game play modes and map packs for CoD MW, CoD MW2, Black Ops and World at War, and as long as their subscription remains alive, they will get the next game and the one after that. There are a total of 7 map packs (I think) available now, and will be another 3 next year, so for $10 per month, a player will get all 10 map packs. Not a bad value.

“Next, I think Activision will offer a $15 monthly subscription that is an ‘all access pass’, allowing subscribers to play WoW, StarCraft II (look for monetization there), the new Bungie game (when it comes out), all COD games, and whatever they do with Guitar Hero (maybe free downloads of songs), on an unlimited basis.

“The trick is managing this without destroying sales of the game. They will tread very carefully, and will make sure that they let consumers know that they are NOT taking anything away, but are merely offering a LOT MORE VALUE for a little bit of money.”
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: ManaByte on November 23, 2010, 07:44:02 AM
This will kill the game.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 23, 2010, 10:22:04 AM
If I can play exactly what I have now for free I don't have a problem with a subscription thing. I just personally wouldn't use it.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 23, 2010, 01:02:40 PM
I think if they do something like a subscription it won't involve any current or prior games (except for map remakes).  There'd be way too much backlash.  What they'd likely do is something along the lines of the Battlefield browser games, where you have a minimal client download, it can run on lower specs, and you'd pay out your ass for guns/gear if you want to maintain parity with other players.  Instead of free you'd pay a nominal monthly fee, they'd make up the rest with flashy guns and outfits.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: bork on November 24, 2010, 02:20:12 AM
Had no idea this game offers split-screen online play.  Buying this now; a buddy of mine who doesn't have any consoles and I always play Halo games together for this reason.  Sorry Battlefield.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 26, 2010, 12:24:37 AM
Really enjoy the game but good god Treyarch has shit net code. So many disconnects and failed host migrations. I never had this many problems with MW 2.  :maf


Patch this shit Treyarch.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 01, 2010, 10:32:26 AM
Kinda cool.

http://www.gamexe.net/codbo/playercard/
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: cool breeze on December 01, 2010, 01:29:35 PM
does anyone like last stand? this is the fourth game to have it (don't remember if WaW did) and it has been bullshit every time.  Treyarch has gotten rid of noobtubers and generally explosive spamming on all maps except nuketown, but they still left in that shitty, shitty perk.  All it does is rob the person who killed the enemy of a kill.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 01, 2010, 01:52:43 PM
Last Stand has never really bothered me. I can control that by shooting the guy until he is dead when I kill him. Or get a headshot or knife him. I can't defend against things like noobtubers so I think that's a bit different at least for me. Last Stand has counters which is the difference.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 01, 2010, 05:05:31 PM
I like last stand because people can revive me.
I hate last stand because people can revive me, but fucking don't.

Shitty perk that can only be fixed by giving people XP for reviving players.

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Treyarch has gotten rid of noobtubers


I find this to be hella false.

You get like 50 points for reviving people but that's not a lot. I think a lot of people don't do it because its risky.

Noobtubing is way down in black ops. It's probably the least its ever been in a modern COD game. Flak jacket, combined with no danger close perk, and the slow reload time of the launchers has reduced it a great deal. There will always be people who use that class but its far less annoying in BO than it ever was before.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 01, 2010, 05:11:51 PM
There have been a lot of instances where I'm downed, kill dude and teammates just stroll on by. I understand if it were out in the open and not thinking you can do it, but to be in a building alone with teammates just strolling past and letting the dude I killed spawn and run all the way back to finish me off is some shit.

I agree.

The xp bonus you get for reviving could stand to boosted a bit to encourage people to do it more.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 04, 2010, 02:22:40 PM
This dude makes kick ass videos. Great voice too. He should do voice over work if he isn't doing it already.


[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ub89jnFzTY[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPHWnnK9JdQ[/youtube]

Also this

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Nv13PQWS5E[/youtube]


Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: CHOW CHOW on December 07, 2010, 06:15:38 PM
Man, the campaign is absolutely nuts.  I fucking love it... NO other franchise does insane immersion and suspense in their campaigns like COD.  I love all the scripted events and the atmosphere.  The setting is phenomenal too and has historical relevance.  What a perfect time period..

Spoilers from I guess midway through:
spoiler (click to show/hide)
I did 2 or 3 missions today.  The first one was finding Clarke, the numbers guy, and it was pretty good.  Running from rooftop to rooftop of these shack houses.  Seeing Clarke get shot in the head while I was holding him up

The second mission was the Reznov flashback snow mission, which absolutely blew me away.  The graphics were incredible and I was totally immersed with the Russian troops, picking off Reich soldiers left and right.  Did anyone else see near the end the Russian soldier was shooting the German soldiers who surrendered in the head one by one?  That was nuts.  And then the last guy left to shoot, he ran outta ammo and got a knife from another dude and then came back and slit his through and blood shot out his neck.  This was just a peripheral scene too... goddamn.

Also seeing Dmitri Petrovich (Reznov's good friend) get gassed up by Nova 6 was nuts. 

What an amazing thrill-ride... no other shooter campaigns are like this, and it's not even close.
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Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: cool breeze on December 15, 2010, 11:35:33 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/xIgsf.jpg)

Last shot of a gun game match.  Me and this other guy were both at the last weapon, we both were aiming at this one dude (my reticule is on his balls at this point) but he manages to shoot first and wins it.

It's hard to see in the downsized image but that's me in the back with my tacky skull face paint and I would be yelling fuck really loud if I had my headset on.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 16, 2010, 12:52:20 AM
lol.

I'm glad the recent patch un-nerfed sniping somewhat. It's still very hard to do on most maps but at least its possible now.

As random aside that G11 is a pretty bad ass gun.

Here are some random clips I made recently. Nothing special but I just like making the occasional clip. God I love that theater mode.


[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy84x3LMuKU[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG0Gm9FEieQ[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FwZTApnjB8[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=md8mnKvIicA[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kacNOOmkcag[/youtube]



 

 
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 19, 2010, 01:39:14 PM
I absolutely lock Hacker Pro. This was me getting a fun kill yesterday with it.

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RdqTDfhXmE[/youtube]
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: demi on December 19, 2010, 01:51:05 PM
Game is absolute shit. Treyarch = garbage
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: demi on December 19, 2010, 03:02:46 PM
Game is too much like World At War. Lots of wide open spots that require yu to run across, like hills, etc. And you just get popped by some random fuck you have no idea from where.

Only positive is the grenade spam is lowered. So what.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 19, 2010, 03:21:46 PM
MP is superior to MW 2. By a pretty good margin.


That's not to say that I don't prefer the maps of MW 2 more. I do. MW 2 also had more reliable connections. The host migration and generally ability to lose a game connection is worse in blops which is annoying.

But as an actual game on the MP side, Black ops is much better. Less frustrating. Less bullshit. Less no scoping madness. Less tubing. Less powerful airsupport, less commando lunge, etc, etc. I literally could name a dozen or two reasons why its the better game on that side.

It's not even really close honestly. It's better in nearly every way on the gameplay side. 

IW is better at SP design but not MP design. And since MP is where most of my time is spent I'm down with that.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Smooth Groove on December 19, 2010, 04:36:47 PM
Borys, Bad Company 2 is much more impressive on the PC than Black Ops.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: cool breeze on December 19, 2010, 08:31:55 PM
MP is superior to MW 2. By a pretty good margin.


That's not to say that I don't prefer the maps of MW 2 more. I do. MW 2 also had more reliable connections. The host migration and generally ability to lose a game connection is worse in blops which is annoying.

But as an actual game on the MP side, Black ops is much better. Less frustrating. Less bullshit. Less no scoping madness. Less tubing. Less powerful airsupport, less commando lunge, etc, etc. I literally could name a dozen or two reasons why its the better game on that side.

It's not even really close honestly. It's better in nearly every way on the gameplay side. 

IW is better at SP design but not MP design. And since MP is where most of my time is spent I'm down with that.

Completely agreed.  Black Ops multiplayer is the most balanced and genuinely fun of the Call of Duty games this gen, if not ever.  It's amazing how many of the problems I had with the series since CoD4 that they fixed, and they went beyond that with the wager matches and theater.  Though to be fair, half the wager matches are kinda weak.  Sticks and stones would have been better if they had a regular crossbow from single player instead of an explosive tipped one.

Single player I didn't actually like; it was a collection of what I didn't like about past Call of Duty games.  The funny thing is that the Goldeneye game on the Wii was my favorite parts of Call of Duty for the duration; if only it came out on the other systems.  I still play the cliffhanger mission from MW2 because I find it really fun but I have no interest in replaying any part of Black Ops.  What annoys me most is how they wasted some of the locations they went to, like Kowloon, which should have been really cool.  Instead it was a brief scene that was influenced by Dogs of War, then the same shootouts from the rest of the game.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 19, 2010, 08:43:00 PM
MP is superior to MW 2. By a pretty good margin.


That's not to say that I don't prefer the maps of MW 2 more. I do. MW 2 also had more reliable connections. The host migration and generally ability to lose a game connection is worse in blops which is annoying.

But as an actual game on the MP side, Black ops is much better. Less frustrating. Less bullshit. Less no scoping madness. Less tubing. Less powerful airsupport, less commando lunge, etc, etc. I literally could name a dozen or two reasons why its the better game on that side.

It's not even really close honestly. It's better in nearly every way on the gameplay side. 

IW is better at SP design but not MP design. And since MP is where most of my time is spent I'm down with that.

Completely agreed.  Black Ops multiplayer is the most balanced and genuinely fun of the Call of Duty games this gen, if not ever.  It's amazing how many of the problems I had with the series since CoD4 that they fixed, and they went beyond that with the wager matches and theater.  Though to be fair, half the wager matches are kinda weak.  Sticks and stones would have been better if they had a regular crossbow from single player instead of an explosive tipped one.

Single player I didn't actually like; it was a collection of what I didn't like about past Call of Duty games.  The funny thing is that the Goldeneye game on the Wii was my favorite parts of Call of Duty for the duration; if only it came out on the other systems.  I still play the cliffhanger mission from MW2 because I find it really fun but I have no interest in replaying any part of Black Ops.  What annoys me most is how they wasted some of the locations they went to, like Kowloon, which should have been really cool.  Instead it was a brief scene that was influenced by Dogs of War, then the same shootouts from the rest of the game.

The more I play the MP the more I realize its essentially the Treyarch repudiation edition of MW 2. I enjoyed MW 2 a lot and it was crazy chaotic fun and a good time, but Black Ops almost on a point by point basis is sort of like saying, MW 2 was too crazy and here is our answer to that. All the points you could argue where IW had good ideas and went to far with it, Treyarch rebalanced it, so it wasn't obnoxious. Perhaps IW would have patch balanced MW 2 a bit more if they hadn't imploded but on the face of it some of the ideas just weren't balanced from the get go or good ideas (Nuke for example, or Death streaks). At its worst MW 2 would turn into a series of annoying deaths. Death by noobtube. Death by chopper gun. Death by no scope, Death by thumper, Death by commando lunge, etc. Not every game was like this of course but at its worst it certainly could happen. Blacks Ops puts the focus back on the guns and makes that other stuff fun extras like it was in COD 4 but not the focus of the game. 

Like any MP of course that's not to say its some perfect magical game. Every game has its good points and its flaws. Certainly issues with spawning, connectivity, and occasional lag. But overall I'd agree it's easily the best COD on the mp side both from a balance perspective and from a feature perspective (I can never play another cod game without a theater mode for example). Treyarch won me over with their MP design and I actually think they are probably the best group to lead the charge on that front. Even if IW hadn't imploded.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Brehvolution on December 20, 2010, 09:54:47 AM
I made sure I'm getting this for xmas. :shh

It's time to get the band back together.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: demi on December 26, 2010, 09:51:25 AM
Anyone want to play sum Zombiez and try to help little ol me get the last few achievements?
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Brehvolution on December 31, 2010, 02:25:26 PM
This games campaign is pretty sweet. I started and got through Vietnam in the same sitting. I just couldn't put the controller down.  :o

spoiler (click to show/hide)
:bow shooting down a rocket :bow2
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Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 31, 2010, 02:36:21 PM
This games campaign is pretty sweet. I started and got through Vietnam in the same sitting. I just couldn't put the controller down.  :o

spoiler (click to show/hide)
:bow shooting down a rocket :bow2
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yeah I think I saw you playing a few days ago.

In other news here is me doing work!


[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_8mEygErNk[/youtube][youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6St8EQ_rMtE[/youtube]

Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Vizzys on December 31, 2010, 03:22:43 PM
first day playing this online yesterday, lvl 15 I think already

im liking the multi lots, mostly doing shotgun running or the m14
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 31, 2011, 09:40:05 PM
First Strike Map Pack comes out tomorrow on 360.


[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTHtUhoCgDI[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKD5QZxm900[/youtube]



Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: maxy on February 01, 2011, 05:39:27 AM
http://marketplace.xbox.com/EN-GB/Product/First-Strike-Pack-1-EN/a296a4e7-559f-414b-ab17-efc63b025202?cid=SLink (http://marketplace.xbox.com/EN-GB/Product/First-Strike-Pack-1-EN/a296a4e7-559f-414b-ab17-efc63b025202?cid=SLink)
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Brehvolution on February 01, 2011, 09:54:50 AM
Fuck man, I haven't even got to play online yet and there is already a map pack out. :-\
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Diunx on February 01, 2011, 10:26:43 AM
Being playing a lot of black ops recently on ps3, I hope my friend gets the new maps they look hot.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: demi on February 01, 2011, 10:28:00 AM
:rofl
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Vizzys on February 01, 2011, 06:12:09 PM
bought, tried em out. first impressions:

kowloon sucks
berlin wall is pretty great and a big map
stadium is bigger then nuketown and fun
Discovery is just ok

Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: drew on February 03, 2011, 12:05:23 AM
why is nobody playing this?

WHY?!
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: demi on February 03, 2011, 12:09:15 AM
Waiting for Modern Warfare 3...
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 03, 2011, 12:18:32 AM
why is nobody playing this?

WHY?!

It's the most popular game on Xbox Live by a pretty wide margin. Not sure what you mean. Most MP focused shooter threads die on here after awhile because its a core group playing them. Like the Halo thread or the Bad Company thread. Not much sense in posting, "Yep I'm still playing black ops and enjoying it!" every week. 

Bought the map pack yesterday.

Most people hate Kowloon but I like it. I like all the ways you can navigate around on it. You can cut through pretty much any building on the map.
Most people love Berlin Wall but I think they like it just because its kind of novel with the no man's land. I kinda like it but not as much as others seem too.
Stadium is very good. Nice size for a cod map with some nice sightlines.
Discovery for some reason barely comes up so I haven't played it enough to form a real opinion.

I have little interest in zombies but the group I play with likes it so I gave it a try. Ascension seems fun enough if you like that mode. There are also a couple of new achivements for that map.

Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: drew on February 03, 2011, 10:26:55 AM
i was talking about you guys
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 03, 2011, 10:30:49 AM
i was talking about you guys

Like I said MP threads die on here after awhile hence my comments about the Halo thread or the Bad company thread. Both of which generally only have a couple of people posting in them. Me and the the couple of other people who play mp shooters on the board regularly and for extended periods.

Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Brehvolution on February 07, 2011, 09:34:29 AM
I got into the MP for the first time this weekend. I really like the way you buy your equipment and the new money system. My only complaint is that the early guns you unlock all suck. The M14 is the worst.  :yuck What a wasted round that was. I have just been using the M16.
Any of you have any advice on which early guns are the best and which to avoid so I don't waste mah money?
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 07, 2011, 11:14:51 AM
I got into the MP for the first time this weekend. I really like the way you buy your equipment and the new money system. My only complaint is that the early guns you unlock all suck. The M14 is the worst.  :yuck What a wasted round that was. I have just been using the M16.
Any of you have any advice on which early guns are the best and which to avoid so I don't waste mah money?

I'm actually not that bad with the M14 especially with a grip on it. Now the FN FAL I can't use very well myself although most people think its better than the M14 but I prefer the M14. The reality is in non-hardcore modes you have to use those guns in very specific ways because most people are going to be using fully automatics so they can just outgun you with bullets.

As far as the god tier guns I would say this in no particular order.

Famas: Especially deadly with a suppressor. Very accurate. Most popular gun in the game for a reason.
Galil: Excellent gun. Lots of bullets its spits out. Has some recoil but the amount of bullets spit out really compensates for the recoil.
AUG: Very good weapon. Probably has the most useful acog in the game.
G11: Great distance gun. Especially with the Low Power scope. It's a burst fire gun but if you are playing at the proper distance it won't matter.
AK74u: Clearly the best smg in the game. Very good with the grip. The most commonly used smg.

I think all those are clearly god tier. For the average player they will perform better with those guns than other guns for the most part. The next tier are really good weapons also but that I place a tier below but some people might think some are just as good as the god tier ones in some cases.

AK47: Lot of people like this gun. Default it has too much recoil for my taste but with a suppressor I think it probably reaches god tier in many cases.
Commando: People like this gun because it spits out a lot bullets and it has relatively little recoil. It reminds some people of the ACR from MW 2. While that's true for me it feels like it takes awhile to kill people which makes me shy away from it but its very popular with others.
MAC11: As long as you get right up on top of people and maybe go with extended mags, I think this smg is really good. Not a ton of people use it for some reason though.
Spectre or MPL: You just have to try both of them out and see which one you like better. But they are definitely two of the better smg's. 
Stoner63: Basically its an LMG that acts as an assault rifle. Most black ops players are run and gunners so they don't like the movement characteristics when you use an LMG but if you can get over that its a very good assault rifle type gun that does a lot of damage and is decently accurate. The sights on it are tough to use default though.
M16: The old reliable. Maybe not quite as dominant as in other COD games especially without stopping power but still a good gun. 

So that's my take. But a lot of times I think any gun can be good as long as you use it properly and situationally.

Like I like the HK21 and PM63 a lot personally but that's mainly because I'm pretty good with them situationally.

Check out this guys channels and his videos.

http://www.youtube.com/user/XboxAhoy

I think he does a really good job of analyzing the guns and making you think about how they can be used. He updates about once a week.

Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Brehvolution on February 07, 2011, 11:31:12 AM
Oh wow, thanks for the info bro.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: maxy on February 17, 2011, 02:42:36 PM
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Danny Trejo: Right Now I’am at The “House of Moves” with Sarah Michelle Gellar, Michael Rooker, and Robert Englund, I’am Wearing A Suit Full of Lights Awaiting To Fight Zombies For The Hit Video Game CALL OF DUTY: BLACK OPS by Activision

This is The suit I Wore To produce My Character in CALL OF DUTY: BLACK OPS

(http://gamingconsolenetwork.com/rkx/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/TrejoBlackOps.jpg)

http://gamingconsolenetwork.com/rkx/2011/02/17/new-black-ops-zombie-dlc-to-feature-danny-trejo-robert-englund/ (http://gamingconsolenetwork.com/rkx/2011/02/17/new-black-ops-zombie-dlc-to-feature-danny-trejo-robert-englund/)

 :bow2
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 28, 2011, 07:45:47 AM
I really like how Treyarch has supported this game post launch.


[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZE7ioz55as[/youtube]


Also I'm not the biggest zombie guy in the world but I thought this was cool for the dlc next week.

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_Cx82OFXM0&feature=channel_video_title[/youtube]
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 28, 2011, 07:58:11 AM
I'm actually pretty pumped for this.
Title: Re: CALL OF DUTY: Black Ops 11.09.10
Post by: Brehvolution on April 28, 2011, 10:04:52 AM
:rock