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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Joe Molotov on February 02, 2014, 05:30:54 PM

Title: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 02, 2014, 05:30:54 PM
==MAINLINE GAMES==

Final Fantasy
Fainaru Fantajī
Original Release: December 17, 1987
Edition Played: PSP
Time to Beat: 15 hours
Date Completed: February 11, 2014
Score: Nostalgia/10

(http://i.imgur.com/kQ7GUv4.jpg)

Played this while I was waiting for Bravely Default. I got to the final dungeon, then put it on hold for BD, but I decided to go ahead and finish it before I got totally sucked into BD. This was my second RPG after Dragon Warrior, and although I loved DW, FF1 was on a whole other level. I had the strategy guide from Nintendo Power and I used to pour over it for hours, even before I got game, just checking out all the monsters and dungeons and weapons and shit. Decided to buy the new strategy guide for bonus nostalgia. /nerd


Final Fantasy II
Fainaru Fantajī Tsū
Original Release: December 17, 1988
Edition Played: PSP
Time to Beat: 18 hours
Date Completed: February 22, 2014
Score: No Levels, WTF/10

(http://i.imgur.com/Pw5e6xI.jpg)

This was one weird mammajamma. It was uh "interesting" to play, but it had so many little annoying quirks and jankiness, that it was not exactly fun to play. But yet I couldn't stop playing it! Well, back into the dustbin for this game.

Now comes the tough decision. I was planning on sending the PSP back to the closet after beating FF1&2 playing the rest on my Vita, but man, I don't know now. I had forgotten how slick the PSP-3000 was, it's so perfectly sized. It fits right in your hand, and had great controls as long as you didn't have to use the nub. The Vita is a behemoth compared to the 3000. *waffles*


Final Fantasy III
Fainaru Fantajī Surī
Original Release: April 27, 1990
Edition Played: PSP (Vita)
Time to Beat: 22 hours
Date Completed: March 3, 2014
Score: 4 Airships/10

(http://i.imgur.com/YVQ3ymD.png)

Smacked that bitch up! I was going to get to Lv. 60 and try again, but instead I was just like "screw it" and queued up some ESPN docs and spent about 2:30 hours grinding to Lv. 65 then went and put my boot up her ass. Felt good. :aah

My final party consisted of:
Luneth - Lv. 66 (Devout Lv. 38)
Arc - Lv. 66 (Ninja Lv. 84)
Refia - Lv. 66 (Dark Knight Lv. 64)
Ingus - Lv. 66 (Dragoon Lv. 99)

Of the Famicom FF's, III feels the most complete. The story was still threadbare (even with the few additions they made to the DS version) but everything else felt like an improvement over the first two. I enjoyed it up until the frustrating ending section, but even that wasn't too bad. I'm ready to get back into the SNES era, though. Cecil's been hanging out at the Mount Ordeal while I finished up I-III.


Final Fantasy IV
Fainaru Fantajī Fō
Original Release: July 19, 1991
Edition Played: PSP (Vita)
Time to Beat: 27 hours
Date Completed: July 7, 2014
Score: Everyone Dies (J/K!)/10

(http://i.imgur.com/rdLjYSX.jpg)

FF4 was a lot more straightforward than FF5 (although the way I played FF5 was pretty straightforward too). No job system, only Black/White/Summon magic, automatically learn spells. People come and go from your party, but you never have more than 5 people at a time, and can't switch out characters until the very end. When characters come back, they're always properly learned, so you don't have to worry about people getting behind. The story was pretty straightforward too: bad guy is trying to get all the crystals, you have to stop him or bad stuff will happen. The beginning was cool though, with Cecil basically being a bad guy and the beginning and then having to try to atone for his sins and become a hero. Then the end when you went to moon, things got a little weird there.

It was fun. I think I liked FF5 better, though. Probably not going to play After Years right away, I'll come back to it later at some point.


Final Fantasy V
Fainaru Fantajī Faibu
Original Release: December 6, 1992
Edition Played: GBA
Time to Beat: 36 hours
Date Completed: June 26, 2014
Score: Androgynous Princess/10

(http://i.imgur.com/4SPsFKR.png)

FFV was pretty rad. I had fun doing the Job Fiesta, even though it was my first playthrough. My party was almost pure physical, so my playthrough was just all about grindan, getting sweet loot, and bashing guys. The good things in life. I kept my party leveled above the curve so I didn't have much trouble in the game until late, mostly with high-defense enemies, but nothing too major. Exdeath was tough, it took me about 6-7 goes at him before I finally brought him down, praying to RNGsus the whole time that he wouldn't cast Almagest too many times or that Grand Cross wouldn't turn everyone into a zombie. Finally did it, and with everyone at near max health even, so I got the good ending where everyone escapes the Void. Feels good, man.


==SIDE GAMES==

Final Fantasy: Mystic Quest
Fainaru Fantajī Yū Esu Ē Misutikku Kuesuto
Original Release: October 5, 1992
Edition Played: SNES (Wii VC)
Time to Beat: 12 hours
Date Completed: July 15, 2014
Score:  :zzz/10

(http://i.imgur.com/Jr9XD9y.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Svkrf2d.jpg)

The good parts were the music and the dungeon design. The bad was pretty much everything else. Combat was tedious and boring. The plot was non-existent at best, and confusing at worse. People just appear and reappear out of nowhere and tell me to do stuff and I'm like "Bitch, I don't even know who you are." Spells, items, and equipment were all dumbed down to the point of not being interesting at all. Because of how limited the items were, the rewards for actually exploring the dungeons were lame (go down some side passage and fight 5 mobs to get a chest with 3 potions :lol )
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Athough legit Final Fantasy games also pull that crap.  :hitler
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I had a ton of gold by the end of the game, even after buying 99 of the four total items that it lets you buy in the game. None of the bosses were challenging when you could just spam White/Meteor/Flare every turn, use your near infinite seed supply when you ran out of MP.

But saying all that, it's pretty much what I expected going in. I was curious though, I decided to give it a whirl while I was working my way through the SNES FF's.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
A convergence of events

- Final Fantasy sale on PSN
- Release of Lightning Returns
- Release of Final Fantasy X & X-2 HD

has got me pumped to play some Final Fantasy. I bought III, IV, and V on PSN and then in a fit of temporary infaggotry I also bought FF I & II 20th Anniversary Editions for the PSP. I got this crazy idea that I might try to play through the entire FF series this year. Or at least as much of it as I can until I get burned out, which might not be very much. Not all at once, but just here and there, pop in a FF game and see how much of it I can get knocked out in a year.

I'm starting off with Final Fantasy IV, which looks pretty delicious on the PSP, especially as opposed to the grotesque 3D DS remake.

(http://i.imgur.com/8NjHwsD.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/WBgJ1Lu.jpg)

:aah

(http://i.imgur.com/MMMaSd1.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/bawFXaj.jpg)

You got that right, buddy. :kobeyuck
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Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on February 02, 2014, 05:32:20 PM
Dude, FFIV psp looks delicious.

I started a game of FFVII last night.

I really need a support group. For real. Haven't played a new Final Fantasy in 5 years.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on February 02, 2014, 05:36:34 PM
Why has Square abandoned me?
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 02, 2014, 05:37:54 PM
Show me where Square touched you on the doll.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on February 02, 2014, 05:39:14 PM
*points to heart*

:(
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: magus on February 02, 2014, 05:40:40 PM
what a bunch of final feggots in this thread
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on February 02, 2014, 05:41:39 PM
I was born this way baby

Joe, FFIV ds wins because it has like one of the best intro vids ever dude

omg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT12DW2Fm9M

Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 02, 2014, 05:48:50 PM
Joe, FFIV ds wins because it has like one of the best intro vids ever dude

PSP version has it too. 8)
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on February 02, 2014, 05:49:21 PM
Joe, FFIV ds wins because it has like one of the best intro vids ever dude

PSP version has it too. 8)

That settles it.

:bow
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 02, 2014, 05:53:57 PM
3>7>5>10>2>6>13>4>12>1>9>8

I AM OUTRAGED!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on February 02, 2014, 06:00:15 PM
3>7>5>10>2>6>13>4>12>1>9>8

2 > 13 > Mystic Quest > the rest

(http://i.imgur.com/8Vd2G.png)
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Positive Touch on February 02, 2014, 06:11:35 PM
*strips naked and rubs oil all over*

o god how i have waited for this thread
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on February 02, 2014, 06:13:17 PM
14 > 11 > 2 > 13 > MQ > DoC > Advent Children > that FF anime from the 90's > 10 > 7 > 3 > 1 > 4 > 5 > 6 > 8 > 12

Real talk:

Okay, as a rule, rankings will EVENTUALLY come up, so everyone should just RANK NOW to get it out of the way so we can continue wanking over FF.

Note: I like every FF. Haven't played 14. NO SIDE GAMES.

RANKING:

8 = 12 > 5 > 6 > 9 > 4 > 7  > 1 >  11 > 10 > 3> 13 > 2
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Positive Touch on February 02, 2014, 06:27:26 PM
8 = 12 > 5 > 6 > 9 > 4 > 7  > 1 >  11 > 10 > 3> 13 > 2

this is why i love you
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on February 02, 2014, 06:30:46 PM
Last night when playing VII I was just like, fuck I cannot wait for FF12 HD. Seriously, announce that shit.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: magus on February 02, 2014, 06:35:03 PM
does the psp version of FF4 retain the augment system from the ds version or is it just another straight up boring port?

(in the DS version everytime a character leave's your party they give you an augment ball that you can use to unlock skills like double casting and the like)
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: demi on February 02, 2014, 06:40:58 PM
PSP is probably the best version of FF4.

It doesnt have the dumbass augment system and whatnot from the DS version, but it lacks the VA (not really a plus or minus), and it has the difficulty.

It includes Interlude, which is pretty one-off

And it includes After Years, which has all its nuts and bolts, unlike the iOS version (missing Challenge Dungeons, missing Cameo Bosses).

I prefer pixel graffix but I can live with what the PSP looks like. Certainly better than the iOS games.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: benjipwns on February 02, 2014, 06:46:50 PM
mods help
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Damian79 on February 02, 2014, 07:24:15 PM
5>8>9>4>6>7>the rest dont matter
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Trent Dole on February 02, 2014, 07:27:25 PM
The best FFs are the ones you played in your teens and twenties and all the other ones are shit.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: magus on February 02, 2014, 07:43:40 PM
liek dis if u cry evrytiem aerith dies

i really like FF7 but i never understood why people make such a big deal out of that, i guess a PC dying is a pretty big deal but she's such a boring character,not to mention she spends the best part of the game being kidnapped anyway
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 02, 2014, 08:25:18 PM
Aeris dying is not the best twist of that game. It's good that people only talk about that so you can bask in Cloud being a fake person
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on February 02, 2014, 08:34:14 PM
Cloud being a total fake blew my mind
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: magus on February 02, 2014, 08:36:56 PM
Aeris dying is not the best twist of that game. It's good that people only talk about that so you can bask in Cloud being a fake person

yeah! the whole thing with cloud really being that stupid NPC you tought nothing about it is amazing, and it's pulled so well! but no everyone is like "blablabla aeris dies"
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on February 02, 2014, 08:42:54 PM
Seriously that shit was AAA
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: benjipwns on February 02, 2014, 08:56:39 PM
I always found the existence of an entire world outside Midgar to be the more compelling "reveal" in the game.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on February 02, 2014, 08:59:48 PM
That was pretty great too.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 02, 2014, 09:12:43 PM
THen there's Sephiroth being trapped in an ice cube the whole time and you were actually fighting Jenova all along
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on February 02, 2014, 09:14:10 PM
I like the part where Cloud goes ape shit and uses the black materia.

I'm not fond of the Sephiroth plot line because I always found Shinra to be the better villains.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Huff on February 02, 2014, 09:16:33 PM
dudes. spoilers please
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on February 02, 2014, 09:19:58 PM
Another great part is when it shows that CLOUD - the soldier reject nobody npc - is the one who kills Sephiroth. He gets stabbed in the gut by like a 10 foot long sword, PULLS IT OUT, and throws Sephiroth to the Mako abyss below.

One of the most unadulterated, purely badass scenes I've seen in a game. The music truly makes it. The drums match the point in time when Cloud pulls the sword out, and his hands tremble. Utterly remarkable moment as told by a bunch of pixel legos.

It's such a shame that all post-VII incarnations of Cloud just don't get it and make him some broody guy, when he was a geeky, skinny badass.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 02, 2014, 09:34:13 PM
Or the part where Cloud gets fucked in the ass by some dudes in a hot tub
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on February 02, 2014, 09:35:33 PM
:lol That fucking game.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 02, 2014, 09:39:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChPs2M3o1IE

:bow
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 02, 2014, 09:47:46 PM
:bow using a GameShark to unlock Cloud's deleted Power Bottom limit break :bow2
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on February 02, 2014, 09:54:37 PM
Playing VII now, just beat Airbuster. Time for the Wallmarket 8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnGnJWKyBak
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 02, 2014, 10:01:10 PM
I like the part where Cloud goes ape shit and uses the black materia.

I'm not fond of the Sephiroth plot line because I always found Shinra to be the better villains.

The first time I beat FF7 I didn't get Cloud's Omnislash, so I thought it was pretty badass when he busted it out of nowhere on Sephiroth at the very end.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: pancakesandsex on February 02, 2014, 10:29:55 PM
Yo oscar you left out 11.  What the fuck.

11>6>5>8>4>9>10-2>10>12>13-2>13>7>3>2>1
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: TakingBackSunday on February 02, 2014, 11:30:54 PM
6 > 4 > 10 > 5 > 7 > 13 > 3 > 9 > 12 > 8 > 1 > 2
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: tiesto on February 03, 2014, 12:14:02 AM
Thread reminds me I can't wait to start Bravely Default when it comes out on Friday...
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 03, 2014, 12:40:56 AM
5>12>who cares

12 wasn't even really that great, it did a lot of dumb things but at least it tried new things, so points for that. I also enjoyed 9 as a bit of nostalgic, fantasy wankery after the futuristic broodfests of 7 and 8, but objectively it's not a very good game. Really, the only one that is... is 5. Probably the most overrated series of all time, ever, honestly.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: benjipwns on February 03, 2014, 12:51:19 AM
I actually really like the first one's plot. I think some of the later ones get too far up their own ass trying to pull off something "holy crap!" like it, but get way too sprawling and complex and can't get back out.

Played the babby GBA version probably more times than I should have on my Micro.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Yulwei on February 03, 2014, 06:54:56 AM
I sure hope square makes another FFTA game and it doesn't end up being mobile exclusive..
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: tiesto on February 03, 2014, 02:30:08 PM
5>12>who cares

12 wasn't even really that great, it did a lot of dumb things but at least it tried new things, so points for that. I also enjoyed 9 as a bit of nostalgic, fantasy wankery after the futuristic broodfests of 7 and 8, but objectively it's not a very good game. Really, the only one that is... is 5. Probably the most overrated series of all time, ever, honestly.

More overrated than Halo?
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on February 03, 2014, 02:42:11 PM
Final Fantasy forgive me

don't listen to these people in this thread

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9nPf7w7pDI
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 03, 2014, 03:14:06 PM
I'm excited to play Lightning Returns next week.

[shrug]
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: demi on February 03, 2014, 03:36:25 PM
Also, you arent going to even finish this Final Fantasy - lol at thinking youre going to marathon this shit.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Rahxephon91 on February 03, 2014, 03:37:03 PM
Oh darn, didn't know Lighting Returns was so soon.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: tiesto on February 03, 2014, 03:46:12 PM
I downloaded the demo finally, gonna play it tonight.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 03, 2014, 08:05:08 PM
Also, you arent going to even finish this Final Fantasy - lol at thinking youre going to marathon this shit.

I played for two hours and beat the Antlion boss and saved Rosa; I'm feeling pretty good about this endeavor.  :aah
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 03, 2014, 08:17:46 PM
5 > 4 > 8 > 10-2 > 1 > 10 > 6 > 3 > 12 > 7 > 9 > 2 > 14 > 11

But what the fuck do I know (http://www.salamando.net/features/vestalman.html)?
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: demi on February 03, 2014, 08:25:47 PM
Vestalman clearly has good taste, with 4 on top. Good to know there are some people out there who aren't, well, stupid.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: tiesto on February 03, 2014, 09:34:30 PM
5 and 4 are my favorite too... 1, 3, 6, 7 and 9 round out the rest of the list. Not into much after that.... although I did like X2 a bit more than most people :P
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on February 03, 2014, 09:37:17 PM
I'd add X-2 high but I said no side games in my post. IV is reasonably high on my list as well. Good Jon on the FF8, Treessong.

The problem with IV is that if you play it once,  it is the same game every new playthrough due to its story structure and character roles. You already know what to do and it isn't like there are any options,  so IV gets boring. But the first playthrough is money.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on February 03, 2014, 09:48:07 PM
Cross dressing in vii lol
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 03, 2014, 09:51:55 PM
5>12>who cares

12 wasn't even really that great, it did a lot of dumb things but at least it tried new things, so points for that. I also enjoyed 9 as a bit of nostalgic, fantasy wankery after the futuristic broodfests of 7 and 8, but objectively it's not a very good game. Really, the only one that is... is 5. Probably the most overrated series of all time, ever, honestly.

More overrated than Halo?

There are what... 4 or 5 main Halo games vs. 14 FF entries? There are probably 1.5 genuinely good Halo games vs. like, 2.5 legitimately good FF games? Percentage wise, yes, FF is more overrated than Halo. I can't account for your weeaboo preferences, but I'm just talking objectively here. I'm only concerned with science.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on February 03, 2014, 09:56:40 PM
2.5 games is still better than the one game in the Phantasy Star series that is good
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 03, 2014, 10:05:16 PM
2.5 games is still better than the one game in the Phantasy Star series that is good

That is patently absurd on it's face, and you know it. PS, PS II, and PS IV are all good games. PS and PS II are dated, but still awesome and better than the FF entries that came out for comparable times.

Not my problem I have better taste in jrpgs than y'all. :umad
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: tiesto on February 03, 2014, 10:19:24 PM
5>12>who cares

12 wasn't even really that great, it did a lot of dumb things but at least it tried new things, so points for that. I also enjoyed 9 as a bit of nostalgic, fantasy wankery after the futuristic broodfests of 7 and 8, but objectively it's not a very good game. Really, the only one that is... is 5. Probably the most overrated series of all time, ever, honestly.

More overrated than Halo?

There are what... 4 or 5 main Halo games vs. 14 FF entries? There are probably 1.5 genuinely good Halo games vs. like, 2.5 legitimately good FF games? Percentage wise, yes, FF is more overrated than Halo. I can't account for your weeaboo preferences, but I'm just talking objectively here. I'm only concerned with science.

I'm not gonna pretend to like big-name western games, but I could get why people enjoy COD, GTA, Uncharted... I can even get why people would find reasons to like the otherwise mechanically busted and buggy Bethesda open-world games... but Halo has always confounded me. Hence why it's my most overrated series of all time :P
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on February 03, 2014, 10:20:59 PM
2.5 games is still better than the one game in the Phantasy Star series that is good

That is patently absurd on it's face, and you know it. PS, PS II, and PS IV are all good games. PS and PS II are dated, but still awesome and better than the FF entries that came out for comparable times.

Not my problem I have better taste in jrpgs than y'all. :umad

Only psiv is worth playing in 2014
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: tiesto on February 03, 2014, 10:22:18 PM
2.5 games is still better than the one game in the Phantasy Star series that is good

That is patently absurd on it's face, and you know it. PS, PS II, and PS IV are all good games. PS and PS II are dated, but still awesome and better than the FF entries that came out for comparable times.

Not my problem I have better taste in jrpgs than y'all. :umad

Only psiv is worth playing in 2014

I'd take 1 and 2 over every single FF game.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on February 03, 2014, 10:25:02 PM
Haven't played PSO, played I - IV through collections.  Played II - IV on ps2 collection and IV was the only one worth playing still. Though II still had some good things about it.

Alys :tocry
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 03, 2014, 10:33:19 PM
2.5 games is still better than the one game in the Phantasy Star series that is good

That is patently absurd on it's face, and you know it. PS, PS II, and PS IV are all good games. PS and PS II are dated, but still awesome and better than the FF entries that came out for comparable times.

Not my problem I have better taste in jrpgs than y'all. :umad

Only psiv is worth playing in 2014

I'd take 1 and 2 over every single FF game.

:mynicca
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Post by: Himu on February 03, 2014, 10:36:43 PM
2.5 games is still better than the one game in the Phantasy Star series that is good

That is patently absurd on it's face, and you know it. PS, PS II, and PS IV are all good games. PS and PS II are dated, but still awesome and better than the FF entries that came out for comparable times.

Not my problem I have better taste in jrpgs than y'all. :umad

Only psiv is worth playing in 2014

I'd take 1 and 2 over every single FF game.

Ew.
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Post by: Positive Touch on February 03, 2014, 10:47:34 PM
hey can you guys have this conversation out back by the dumpster or something? we're trying to have a good time here and youre shitting it up
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Post by: Himu on February 03, 2014, 10:50:14 PM
Pos-san :uguu
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Post by: Human Snorenado on February 03, 2014, 11:35:38 PM
*upper decks toilet on his way out*
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Post by: Yulwei on February 04, 2014, 01:43:26 AM
PSO > PSI-IV
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Post by: Human Snorenado on February 04, 2014, 01:56:51 AM
PSO > PSI-IV

Eat literal shit and die screaming in a fire
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Post by: Yulwei on February 04, 2014, 02:51:46 AM
choke on it  8)
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Post by: magus on February 04, 2014, 08:35:00 AM
for me my final fantasy ranking would go

Final Fantasy 7 : really i don't think i would give a fuck about rpg if this game didn't exist in the first place, wonderfull soundtrack, amazing artwork, incredible cast, i could go on and on and on why i fucking love this game so much,i also like how the game pull sephiroth off, you never get to interact with him directly until very far into the game so all you get at first is cloud story and the fact that he impale a giant snake and it makes him look like such a badass and yet give him an air of mystery

Final Fantasy 10: 9 and 10 are pretty close for me but i'd rather put 10 above, it has amazing boss fight, a more cohesive cast and i really like how's the plot is narrated in first person, of all the love stories going on final fantasy, 10 is the less cringeworthy one

Final Fantasy 9 : i like the system where you learn abilities from items, the cast is pretty goofy which give it charm but at the same time some of them feel pretty stupid, even without going as far as quina you have character like eiko or amarant which to this day i still have no idea what he's supposed to be... an alien with a bad perm? a rooster with an extreme comb? it's also a little too easy to assemble a party with your best attacker and ignoring the rest of the cast... the villain is also super boring and generic (well to be honest i like brahne super goofy disney villain look but she doesn't do much does she?)

but it's ok! game had chocobo hot & cold and you could play that shit for days and days and days

Final Fantasy 6: 6 is pretty much the proto-FF7 all the good thing i says about FF7 mostly applies to FF6, unfortunately the second half of the game in the world of ruin is a complete chore, it's too easy to destroy the game once you have character that can attack 8 times in a single turn and it really has an awfull encounter rate

Final Fantasy 8: 8 is a mess! every rpg rule they could fuck with,they did... money? you gain it by answering quizzes! xp? doesn't matter anymore! spells? they are an item! it's like the thing was designed by kawazu while being drunk,the art and soundtrack is still top notch being a psx FF but the cast is so boring and of all of them it's easily the weakest... it does have it's cool moment though,like when the two seed universities clashes or the bit where you ambush edea

Final Fantasy 13: everybody hate this game and i hate discussing about it because people act like twat (well more twattish than the usual "my final fantasy is better than your final fantasy" discussion i guess) when it comes to talking about it,for me it was a return to the plot-based form that made me love FF10,the linearity doesn't bother me in the slighest and i really like the paradigm system in that it speeds up the ATB without removing too much control from the player (unlike that other FF...)

but they really fucked up with that stupid upgrade equipment system and to be honest the first time i played it never occured to me how much of the game consist of character randomly finding themself somewhere for no reason... they become l'cie - whoops now they are in a lake,they exit the lake,something explode,whoops! now they are somewhere else

Final Fantasy 5 : eeeeehhhh i don't like job system, and FF5 only reason to exist is the job system, the way some boss can be skipped through obscure FAQ knowledge also kinda annoy me (like i think there is a combination of skills that can make atomos level a multipler of 5 so you can instantly cast level 5 death on him or something like that) so that's all i have to say about it

Final Fantasy 4 : everything about this game is old, the plot, the lack of gimmick, the encounter rate, if you really like your rpg without any salt or spices you would like this

Final Fantasy 3: see FF5

Final Fantasy 1: see FF4

Final Fantasy 12: and yes,of all modern final fantasy for me 12 is the worst, there is absolutely no sort of plot here other than matsuno attempting a big war/political plot together with his two other pal and then throwing it all away while saying "it was a demon all along!" which is what he did for FFT, and for tactics ogre, and for vagrant story,and for every game he has ever done... the gambit system is awfull and even the joy of leveling up is eaten away by the whole thing with the license

filling up that book with lore fact is cool but even that become a chore when the game ask you to kill 5 elemental that only appear when the game feels like it because stuff

Final Fantasy 2: no way in hell i'm touching a kawazu game,worst final fantasy evah!
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Post by: Yulwei on February 04, 2014, 09:11:24 AM
On FF12: I thought the plot was the least offensive thing about it, Magus. The combat system is what really killed that game for me. It was pretty much an auto attack simulator. It was a game of setting up the best DPS gambits so you could buff your party up and then watch them hack away at monsters for hours and hours. Doesn't help that the game floods you with mobs every five fucking steps. As much as I disliked that game I still thought it was better than 13. 13 was somehow even more repetitive than 12. It lacked the mob, boss and area variety that 12 at least managed to pull off.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: magus on February 04, 2014, 09:42:54 AM
why would anyone write so many words about ff

ask andrew vestal, not me :yeshrug
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 04, 2014, 12:31:18 PM
why would anyone write so many words about ff

ask andrew vestal, not me :yeshrug

Hahahaha, this is kind of a sick burn honestly.


This burn are sick. :tocry
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Post by: Himu on February 04, 2014, 12:48:38 PM
12 actually has a lot of interesting and great ideas in its writing. The way it flirts with the idea that Ashe's merits for taking Dalamasca are born from revenge and malice over what she lost and not the actual people is done extremely well. Though, the game doesn't do it enough for my liking. The game also doesn't say that "the demons did it". The Occuria are practically Gods, and in the game, the Occuria want YOU to kill the one that has infected Cid. You obviously weren't paying attention, and Cid's not even the main villain.  Moreover, the initial Occuria scene is one of the best written and acted scenes in the game. I'd love to talk more about it, but I haven't played XII in a long time as I've been waiting for the International version in English before I replay for a fifth time. We had a lot of great talks about Final Fantasy XII's story at the Something Awful Final Fantasy Megathread and it had easily the best discussion - story-wise - out of all the games. By any legitimate metric, 12 is easily the best written Final Fantasy. Problem is, the original director/writer left partway, so it kind of suffers from Suikoden III-itis in that the later sections of the plot are kind of  :larry but aren't offensive. It still has a lot of great stuff though, Cid especially. Still, the politics, lore, and world are are some of the better realized stuff in Final Fantasy. XII has a lot to like.

Real talk, FF is best when split into categories since they're all so fucking different. Comparing 7 to 8 for instance, makes little sense.
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 04, 2014, 01:08:06 PM
Final Fantasy IV is my favorite, but I played it when it first came out. I could see someone coming to it now finding it old, dated and full of cliches.

I also love XII and agree with what Himu is talking about.
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Post by: Himu on February 04, 2014, 01:32:02 PM
RE: categories. Story-wise, I think VI, X, and XII are the highlights.

VI from top to bottom has the best story in the series, I feel. A big problem with every FF - barring X - is that halfway, the story peters out. This is mostly because FF tends to be a plot-based franchise. FFVI fixes this by going from plot-based (first half) to character-based (second half) which fixes many of the story issues that plague Final Fantasy games. This is great because the first half is fast-paced and sort of impersonal, whereas the second half is slow-paced and very personal. Combined, it tells a very realized story that knows what it's going for.

X may not have a better story than VI, but it easily has a better plot. The entire game is about Yuna and her journey to sacrifice herself. Each location sets up and builds this up. For this reason, X is very good with characters. But unlike other FF's where plot goes batshit halfway, X stays the course, because again, the game is about Yuna and her journey. You aren't trying to stop someone from destroying the world in X and I think the games plot benefits greatly.

XII's story, taken as a whole isn't particularly great. But what pushes it above the rest is its storytelling. It is well written and acted - extremely well, in fact, and individual moments like these really benefit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMGQOX1zKdA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R43YHkYo31w

The Drace scene is so good. :lawd

As an addendum, I really enjoy the story pacing of FFVIII. It is action set piece after set piece and makes other rpgs look boring. You go from assisting a foreign power in a military mission in Dollet, to conducting a kidnapping mission to retrieve the President of Galbadia on board moving trains, and then on to Deling to conduct an elaborate mission to assassinate a sorceress, a prison, bombing a missile base, stopping missiles from hitting Garden, and the Garden wars with Galbadia Garden. Fuck yes.

Let's look at this in video form and bask :rejoice:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv2_mLwSUiA

And that's without mentioning the Laguna flashbacks.
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Post by: Himu on February 04, 2014, 01:44:55 PM
Final Fantasy IV is my favorite, but I played it when it first came out. I could see someone coming to it now finding it old, dated and full of cliches.

I also love XII and agree with what Himu is talking about.

When I first played FFIV in 1999, I still thought it was great. I was playing it via emulator, so the snes version, but still loved it. There really aren't that many rpgs out there that are about redemption, so IV still sticks out. It also sticks out because of its story/gameplay structure and character deaths. I love IV to fucking bits. The great thing about IV is that, you never knew what was going to happen. Party members would leave at their whim. A lot of people see the character deaths are story-based but I've always taken them as gameplay-based. For example, when you have Palom and Porom, you're set, dude. You've got a wicked black mage and a wicked white mage in your party. Then all of a sudden they're turned to stone and you've got jack shit, buddy. Taken from your grasp just like that. Without those two, you have to completely change how you play the game at moments haste, at least for a bit.  IV's unpredictability craft a fantastic first time playthrough, but it suffers on replays for the same reason: due its lack of open-ended party customization and its emphasis on story/gameplay structure, there's much you can do to change things. You will always lose those mages. This is why I like the Augments system, it gives a lot of extra stuff to think about and gives FFIV even more replay value.

So IV is pretty fucking unique. If I can play FFIV and every other 2d FF in 1999 in the middle of the 3d renaissance, I'm sure someone can play through it now. Then again, I've never been much of a graphic whore.
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Post by: Himu on February 04, 2014, 02:09:38 PM
Jesus, I think the word weaboo jumped the shark with that post.
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Post by: Himu on February 04, 2014, 02:16:04 PM
I think VIII, XII, and V have the best gameplay. With Tactics and X-2 thrown in for good measure.

Funny thing about VI and X: their actual gameplay isn't that hot. VI's later sidequests and world exploration kicks ass and it has some fun boss fights, though. The WoB has great story and gameplay variety too, so that keeps you on your toes. So I ease up on it, but the Esper customization system is easily the worst customization system in the series. It is :trash So these days when I play VI, I just have Celes and Terra learn magic. Makes the game slightly more challenging, which isn't saying much.

X's gameplay is pretty lol. The only good fights are the boss fights. CTB is objectively a great battle system, but the game only has a few areas (mostly all boss fights) where it takes advantage of this. Its side quests are mostly middling and range from tedious shit like touching butterflies, the chocobo racing, and lightning dodging to grindy shit like capturing 999999 monsters throughout every location in the game for the arena. Sphere grid makes it similar to FFIV, in that customization is light. It's possible to jump on other peoples grids, but it makes every character carbon copies. X, in a gameplay sense, is flawed as fuck, and a low-tier FF because of it. The world, music, story, plot, and characters are all it has going for it.

XII's gameplay is piff. It was awful when I fought it and refused to use to gambits. I did that for 50 hours. It was terrible. FFXII without gambits is garbage. But with gambits, it turns into something else. When playing FFVII all I can think of is: I'd rather be playing XII.
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Post by: magus on February 04, 2014, 02:31:31 PM
It also sticks out because of its story/gameplay structure and character deaths.

i appreciate someone said that because it give me a chance to post this again

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/5c511f706d433edc87af98805879fc2d/tumblr_mjlx60yWxT1s86x9xo1_500.jpg)
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Post by: Himu on February 04, 2014, 02:33:17 PM
Yeah well, the nub sees that as YANG SACRIFICING HIMSELF. I see it as, fuck me, my monk is going to kill himself. who else do i have that has high attack like this fucker goddamit.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on February 05, 2014, 11:39:11 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mM1b6MGtM0

Let me protect you, Lightning-chan. :uguu :uguu :uguu
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 05, 2014, 09:33:30 PM
The game where the main character turns out to be a dream from ghosts doesn't go batshit halfway through?
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Post by: Himu on February 05, 2014, 10:59:25 PM
Well, that's really just a plot twist. It doesn't really change nor impact the plot the actual story much.
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Post by: Himu on February 05, 2014, 11:41:55 PM
It doesn't. Especially compared to past FF's. After it is revealed they're just like, whatever, let's keep journeying. Because Tidus being a dream is not the backbone of the plot. Yuna's journey is, and this remains constant. Compared to VII where Cloud has a mental breakdown and summons a giant meteor and is missing almost the entirety of disc 2. Or FFVIII's orphanage plot twist. In X, the plot twist doesn't really impact much, and it isn't nearly as whacky. In the other games, the plot twisr changes the entire story and the story becomes much harder to absorb and understand. Despite being a crazy plot twist, FFX still remains grounded and easy to understand post-twist. But you haven't beaten it so I understand the confusion.
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Post by: Himu on February 05, 2014, 11:59:55 PM
Yeah. The twist is dumb but it works out in the end because the ending is :tocry

And yeah, an actual blitz all sports game I've been waiting on for years. The fact that SE never made that is another fucking waste of potential. This company is so stupid. All they have to do is make the most simple shit like a mobile version of triple triad.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 06, 2014, 08:05:27 AM
If anything the orphanage garbage is the one that could just have one scene deleted and have no impact on the plot. And the cloud thing isn't batshit to me, it's a guy with PTSD who latches onto someone he admired. Fairly grounded once you accept that magic spells exist.

Non-batshit twists in X include: Yuna will die in the summoning, Jecht is sin, the summoner's ally dies along with the summoner, Auron is a wandering spirit, Wakka is gay
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Post by: Himu on February 06, 2014, 08:45:55 AM
My argument is that the plot in 3d Final Fantasy games tends to go batshit halfway. Your goals change or the game is entirely different from the beginning. I'm not talking about any plot twist. I'm talking about the overall story. In VII it goes from a story about terrorism and environmentalism to chasing a Goth guy and science experiments. VIII goes from a story about paramilitary with kids to traveling into the goddamn future. Even after the plot twist in X, X remains grounded and doesn't lose the plot. It is only ever about taking down Sin. For this reason, the story benefits greatly. That is what I meant: not that it doesn't have batshit story elements (an FF staple).
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Post by: Himu on February 06, 2014, 09:01:56 AM
This morning since I woke up early I played more of VII and did most of the Shinra building. God, Sephiroth sucks. What a shit character. Shinra are so much better bad guys.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on February 06, 2014, 09:03:43 AM
The whole of FF7's story should have been about Cloud, Tifa, and Barrett being terrorists.
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Post by: Himu on February 06, 2014, 09:10:12 AM
Seriously.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on February 11, 2014, 02:55:52 PM
Part 1 of Year of Final Fantasy is in the books, but it's not FF4. I took a detour back to where it all began.

Final Fantasy
Fainaru Fantajī
Original Release: December 17, 1987
Edition Played: PSP
Time to Beat: 15 hours
Score: Nostalgia/10

(http://i.imgur.com/kQ7GUv4.jpg)

Played this while I was waiting for Bravely Default. I got to the final dungeon, then put it on hold for BD, but I decided to go ahead and finish it before I got totally sucked into BD. This was my second RPG after Dragon Warrior, and although I loved DW, FF1 was on a whole other level. I had the strategy guide from Nintendo Power and I used to pour over it for hours, even before I got game, just checking out all the monsters and dungeons and weapons and shit. Decided to buy the new strategy guide for bonus nostalgia. /nerd
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Post by: El Babua on February 11, 2014, 03:08:24 PM
XII is my fav cause I'm a grinding loot whore.

XII Intl. HD better come the fuck out.
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Post by: SantaC on February 11, 2014, 03:20:15 PM
8 > 6 > 10 > 9 > 10-2 > 12 > 5 > 7 > 13 > 4 > 13-2
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Post by: Himu on February 11, 2014, 04:31:09 PM
XII is my fav cause I'm a grinding loot whore.

XII Intl. HD better come the fuck out.

BUY FFX HD TO TELL THOSE SLUTS AT SQUARE THAT FFXII HD NEEDS TO HAPPEN
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Post by: Himu on February 11, 2014, 05:24:01 PM
I have no other recourse.
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Post by: magus on February 11, 2014, 05:34:28 PM
I have no other recourse.

kickstart unsung story :heh
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Post by: Joe Molotov on February 22, 2014, 09:05:20 PM
Final Fantasy II
Fainaru Fantajī Tsū
Original Release: December 17, 1988
Edition Played: PSP
Time to Beat: 18 hours
Score: No Levels, WTF/10

(http://i.imgur.com/Pw5e6xI.jpg)

This was one weird mammajamma. It was uh "interesting" to play, but it had so many little annoying quirks and jankiness, that it was not exactly fun to play. But yet I couldn't stop playing it! Well, back into the dustbin for this game.

Now comes the tough decision. I was planning on sending the PSP back to the closet after beating FF1&2 playing the rest on my Vita, but man, I don't know now. I had forgotten how slick the PSP-3000 was, it's so perfectly sized. It fits right in your hand, and had great controls as long as you didn't have to use the nub. The Vita is a behemoth compared to the 3000. *waffles*
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Post by: Himu on February 22, 2014, 09:13:20 PM
You forgot the II in your title name

i'm on disc 2 of FFVII
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Post by: recursivelyenumerable on February 22, 2014, 09:23:40 PM
Post-GBA FF1 is not FF1, silly
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Post by: Himu on February 22, 2014, 09:27:58 PM
FF1 gba and psp are awful. If you wanna play ff1 play ff origins. best version.
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Post by: demi on February 22, 2014, 09:31:29 PM
I have 1 & 2 on my iPod, its on my to-play for sure.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on February 22, 2014, 09:32:55 PM
Post-GBA FF1 is not FF1, silly

FF1 gba and psp are awful. If you wanna play ff1 play ff origins. best version.

I tried playing "Original" difficulty FF1 on FF:Origins about a year ago, and man I'm too old for that. Easy mode knocks off about 15 hours of gridan.  :win
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Post by: Raban on February 22, 2014, 09:33:03 PM
Now comes the tough decision. I was planning on sending the PSP back to the closet after beating FF1&2 playing the rest on my Vita, but man, I don't know now. I had forgotten how slick the PSP-3000 was, it's so perfectly sized. It fits right in your hand, and had great controls as long as you didn't have to use the nub. The Vita is a behemoth compared to the 3000. *waffles*
PLAY IT ON YOUR PSP. I've recently been playing through Monster Hunter Freedom Unite on it and came to the exact same realization you did. The PSP-3000 feels incredible in your hands. Once I pick it up I hate to put it down.
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Post by: Himu on February 22, 2014, 09:39:38 PM
I beat ff1 gba without dying once. Jesus christ what an abortion. But if that's your style I guess I cannot blame you.
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Post by: recursivelyenumerable on February 22, 2014, 09:47:21 PM
The problem is without the difficulty, the sense of a heroic journey is gone, and without that there's not much there there. It's not like there's some great audiovisual spectacle or drama to keep you entertained, it's all about the feeling of perilous adventure.
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Post by: demi on February 22, 2014, 09:53:35 PM
The Windows Phone version is the superior version - it has achievements :aah
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Post by: Joe Molotov on February 22, 2014, 11:41:48 PM
The problem is without the difficulty, the sense of a heroic journey is gone, and without that there's not much there there. It's not like there's some great audiovisual spectacle or drama to keep you entertained, it's all about the feeling of perilous adventure.

I'm just looking to beat some games, breh, and I ain't trying to marry one.  :yeshrug

Oh God, though, the camera swing before every attack in FF3...I'm kinda feeling nauseous already. Looked to see if you could disable it in Config, nope. We get it, it's 3D, congratufuckinglations.  :yuck
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Post by: recursivelyenumerable on February 23, 2014, 12:31:47 AM
I mean, I get that you don't have time for grinding and shit, but if that's the case you may as well not play it at all. Hence why I pretty much don't play RPGs anymore.
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Post by: a slime appears on February 23, 2014, 07:55:45 PM
Hey guess what? Final Fantasy sucks.
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Post by: Trent Dole on February 23, 2014, 07:59:14 PM
Yeah really surprising to hear that from a goddamn DQ slime.
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Post by: a slime appears on February 24, 2014, 07:55:17 AM
Yeah really surprising to hear that from a goddamn DQ slime.

You're right, lol. I'm currently playing the FFXIV beta on the PS4. It's alright.

Does Bravely Default count as part of the FF series since it's practically the same game except the name? Hell, it's a pseudo-sequel to 4 Heroes of Light.
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Post by: Himu on February 24, 2014, 08:13:13 AM
TAKE THAT BACK, MR. SLIME
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Post by: Joe Molotov on March 03, 2014, 08:07:50 PM
Final Fantasy III
Fainaru Fantajī Surī
Original Release: April 27, 1990
Edition Played: PSP (Vita)
Time to Beat: 22 hours
Score: 4 Airships/10

(http://i.imgur.com/YVQ3ymD.png)

Smacked that bitch up! I was going to get to Lv. 60 and try again, but instead I was just like "screw it" and queued up some ESPN docs and spent about 2:30 hours grinding to Lv. 65 then went and put my boot up her ass. Felt good. :aah

My final party consisted of:
Luneth - Lv. 66 (Devout Lv. 38)
Arc - Lv. 66 (Ninja Lv. 84)
Refia - Lv. 66 (Dark Knight Lv. 64)
Ingus - Lv. 66 (Dragoon Lv. 99)

Of the Famicom FF's, III feels the most complete. The story was still threadbare (even with the few additions they made to the DS version) but everything else felt like an improvement over the first two. I enjoyed it up until the frustrating ending section, but even that wasn't too bad. I'm ready to get back into the SNES era, though. Cecil's been hanging out at the Mount Ordeal while I finished up I-III.
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Post by: Himu on March 03, 2014, 08:30:12 PM
What the fuck. FFIII is on PSP?
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Post by: Raban on March 03, 2014, 08:30:45 PM
It's on everything. Even on fucking Windows Phone for god's sake.
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Post by: Himu on March 03, 2014, 08:31:28 PM
I knew it was on mobile but I didn't know there was a PSP version.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on March 03, 2014, 08:37:43 PM
I knew it was on mobile but I didn't know there was a PSP version.

Like all the other ones, it's just a port of the DS version.
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Post by: Himu on March 03, 2014, 08:43:11 PM
Well yeah. They lost the source code to FFIII nes.
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Post by: magus on March 03, 2014, 08:48:20 PM
It's on everything. Even on fucking OUYA for god's sake.

fixed for ya
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Post by: Himu on March 03, 2014, 09:56:22 PM
That's understandable. I just didn't know there was a PSP version! That's what happens when I stop reading gaf.  :lol
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Post by: ZephyrFate on March 13, 2014, 03:53:32 AM
anyone playing the HD remastered second-best game in the series and its lesser, inferior prequel on PS3 yet?
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Post by: Positive Touch on March 29, 2014, 07:25:26 PM
just bumped this to say that i got the 7777 casino fragment in 13-2 in a half an hour because i am a superb human being
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Post by: Himu on April 23, 2014, 08:38:32 PM
Edging off FFX.

I'm 7 hours into the FFVI replay and I'm heading for the opera house. Last run, I only taught Terra and Celes Esper magic. This time I wanna break the game the fuck open with as little effort as possible. Any ideas on how I should handle Esper use for all my characters this go? I'm planning on teaching them all healing magic like Cure and Life.
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Post by: Himu on April 25, 2014, 02:22:35 PM
I hit Thamasa.

Mannnnn...

Let's talk about Shadow.

I always liked this character. I enjoy how fragmented his dream sequences are. I enjoy that the game never outright tells you that he is Relm's father. I like how they give the player a whole assortment of clues, without ever having some reveal scene, which makes it all the more tragic.

Not to mention the direction of some of the dreams are just high quality for the Super Nintendo, especially the third dream.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnruOgqKzFw

How do you guys interpret his character?

I see it as a man ashamed of his past, from train robber to a man who failed to end his friends life as he was bleeding out. He slows down and starts a family, and we don't know if his wife dies or what, but he ends up leaving his daughter to his friend Strago - who is not Relm's actual grandfather. He leaves because he feels he can't escape his past, and likely due to the motif of guilt and shame - a very big and rampant theme in FFVI I'm seeing upon this playthrough - he abandons her thinking a man like himself - a former thief, someone who failed his closest friend at the end of his life - could never be the father she wanted. Which isn't true, but it's probably his reasoning. During the boat trip to Thamasa, he warns Terra that there are some people who have cut off all emotion and severed any emotional tie they have to humanity. So he bottles up his feelings, especially in regards to Relm, and this makes him such a great assassin. But it's shown that he really does care when he rescues the party - and Relm - from the house fire.

The sad thing is, you recruit Shadow and he has the opportunity to tell Relm who he is. He never does. He can put two and two together, because he knows Strago and he left his daughter with Strago, so he definitely knows who she is. Think he doesn't reveal it because Shadow, the man seen as a ruthless assassin, isn't something he feels a daughter should know about? Is it more repressed guilt? Or does he feel he's unworthy of her love for leaving her? We don't know, and we are only left to interpret.

The tragic part is that Shadow decided to stay in Kefka's Tower as it's crumbling. It could be said he dies, facing death, but I don't like that because the entire game, Shadow has been running from his past. Him embracing death even though he has no reason at all to die, doesn't fit his character. I especially enjoy how his ending is ambiguous, and I like to interpret that he escapes in silence from Kefka's Tower, in classic Shadow fashion, gets his life together, and then goes to be a father to Relm. Locke, Celes, Terra, and to a lesser extent, Cyan and Setzer all stop running away from their problems and face them head on. I like to imagine that's the ending for Shadow.

Such a great character and full of mysteries with a kick ass theme.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUH_UZlGIKs

“He owes allegiance to no one, and will do anything for money. He comes and goes like the wind...”

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Post by: Himu on April 25, 2014, 02:38:49 PM
Replaying VI has been an utter treat if only for the music.

This song is so beautiful, even 17 years after i first played it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAapOGx41Y8

“Draped in monster hides, eyes shining with intelligence. A youth surviving against all odds...”


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7RPY-oiDAQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v91UBqtsVqE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUgpMJ2l4ZQ

:rejoice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owL5NjgldNo



Nobuo Uematsu, my fave game composer :rejoice

:rejoice FINAL FANTASY :rejoice
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Post by: demi on April 25, 2014, 02:42:43 PM
I think Shadow is stupid as fuck. Durrrr lets wait on Floating Island until last second or you lose him forever.

Suck my square shaped dick.
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Post by: Himu on April 25, 2014, 02:54:25 PM
Waiting on floating continent is easy lol
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Post by: Positive Touch on April 25, 2014, 07:44:14 PM
The tragic part is that Shadow decided to stay in Kefka's Tower as it's crumbling. It could be said he dies, facing death, but I don't like that because the entire game, Shadow has been running from his past. Him embracing death even though he has no reason at all to die, doesn't fit his character. I especially enjoy how his ending is ambiguous, and I like to interpret that he escapes in silence from Kefka's Tower, in classic Shadow fashion, gets his life together, and then goes to be a father to Relm. Locke, Celes, Terra, and to a lesser extent, Cyan and Setzer all stop running away from their problems and face them head on. I like to imagine that's the ending for Shadow.

 :beli yeah no that dude killed himself. theres nothing in the game that ever shows him getting over his guilt (while eeryone else does), plus he never tells anyone the truth or even attempts to. also there is zero indication that he escapes, and the game clearly tries to show you that he is giving up. he helps out his friends one last time, and then gives in to his guilt. sorry!


Waiting on floating continent is easy lol

that part was intense as fuck when i was a kid. a pretty hard boss fight, one of the longest cutscenes i'd ever seen in a game, and then a timed escape with some balls-out hard monster fights. then even when you make it to the end you have to sit there til theres like 3 seconds left, going "is it really worth it to do this all over again? how do i know the game wont be lenient and have him show up later anyway?" then he appears and youre like "LETS GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE JESUS"
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Post by: Himu on April 25, 2014, 07:53:18 PM
The tragic part is that Shadow decided to stay in Kefka's Tower as it's crumbling. It could be said he dies, facing death, but I don't like that because the entire game, Shadow has been running from his past. Him embracing death even though he has no reason at all to die, doesn't fit his character. I especially enjoy how his ending is ambiguous, and I like to interpret that he escapes in silence from Kefka's Tower, in classic Shadow fashion, gets his life together, and then goes to be a father to Relm. Locke, Celes, Terra, and to a lesser extent, Cyan and Setzer all stop running away from their problems and face them head on. I like to imagine that's the ending for Shadow.

 :beli yeah no that dude killed himself. theres nothing in the game that ever shows him getting over his guilt (while eeryone else does), plus he never tells anyone the truth or even attempts to. also there is zero indication that he escapes, and the game clearly tries to show you that he is giving up. he helps out his friends one last time, and then gives in to his guilt. sorry!

(http://i.imgur.com/qfn2K2k.gif)

It's not true!

Quote
that part was intense as fuck when i was a kid. a pretty hard boss fight, one of the longest cutscenes i'd ever seen in a game, and then a timed escape with some balls-out hard monster fights. then even when you make it to the end you have to sit there til theres like 3 seconds left, going "is it really worth it to do this all over again? how do i know the game wont be lenient and have him show up later anyway?" then he appears and youre like "LETS GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE JESUS"

I enjoy the tension of it. Speaking of the floating continent. I usually grind in the phantom forest to get my guys to level 30 before going there. Not sure if I should that this time? :larry

And yeah, Floating Continent is TOUGH! BEHEMOTHS!!! :rejoice
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Post by: Positive Touch on April 25, 2014, 07:55:32 PM
 :pacspit those ninja scumbags
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on April 25, 2014, 07:59:16 PM
the ninja dude in the cave to the sealed realm :gladbron :pacspit
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Positive Touch on April 25, 2014, 11:02:56 PM
no clue what you're taking about???
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on April 26, 2014, 12:58:31 AM
no clue what you're taking about???

There's are two switchrs in the cave to the sealed gate. One on the right has a ninja. It will fuck you up if you're not prepared.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Trent Dole on April 26, 2014, 06:44:50 PM
My one full playthrough of VI I did not know to wait for Shadow. Found everyone else in the world of ruin though. If he just dies at the end anyway I don't feel so bad about leaving him behind. And he's a goddamn ninja who comes and goes like the wind anyway, fucker sucks if he leaves us and then can't take care of himself. :pacspit
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: a slime appears on April 26, 2014, 07:16:30 PM
Is this thread where we admit our failings as a human being in hopes of bettering ourselves? OK, I'll go first:

I bought Final Fantasy X-2 today.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on April 26, 2014, 08:23:04 PM
Is this thread where we admit our failings as a human being in hopes of bettering ourselves? OK, I'll go first:

I bought Final Fantasy X-2 today.

You're a fantastic human being. :rejoice
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on April 26, 2014, 08:33:54 PM
My one full playthrough of VI I did not know to wait for Shadow. Found everyone else in the world of ruin though. If he just dies at the end anyway I don't feel so bad about leaving him behind. And he's a goddamn ninja who comes and goes like the wind anyway, fucker sucks if he leaves us and then can't take care of himself. :pacspit

 :ufup :pacspit
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Trent Dole on April 27, 2014, 12:06:44 AM
HOW THE FUCK WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW?! There wasn't any internets back in the SNES days :tocry
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on April 27, 2014, 12:18:31 AM
WHAT CAN I DO FOR YOUUUU?!?!?!
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Trent Dole on April 27, 2014, 12:23:57 AM
You're gonna make me throw that in my PS2 and play it again, aren't you.
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Post by: Himu on April 27, 2014, 12:32:48 AM
What can I do for you?

I CAN HEAR YOU!

Ano hi kokoro no kanata ni
Egaiteta basho ni iru
Tohou ni kuretetari suru
Keredo mou modorenai

(http://i.imgur.com/izloXwo.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/slusRna.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/izloXwo.jpg)
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Post by: Himu on May 09, 2014, 01:52:53 AM
Beat the Floating Continent at level 23.

(http://37.media.tumblr.com/2113b24dc82ca7e117b60b53d82fa1a5/tumblr_mmay68X0hT1qbrdf3o1_r1_500.gif)

Intro to World of Ruin is still amazing. FFVI has some odd dialogue as a 28 year old. Some parts are overtly silly, such as,"hate hate hate hate hate you" scenes. To be fair, most of them revolve around Kefka. But when the games direction gets busy it's great. Comparing it to other 16 bit rpgs, it doesn't hit the highs of Dragon Quest V, but it's still up there.

The desolate World of Ruin music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqoA6Q5dfGU

It never ceases to amaze.

The scene where Celes tries to kill herself after losing EVERYTHING, is still just emotionally powerful, and crazy for a game aimed at kids and teenagers.

World of Ruin is my favorite part of FF6. Open-ended exploring, sidequests galore, dungeons, HIDDEN dungeons, hidden characters, CHOICES. :rejoice One of my favorite gaming moments.

(http://i.imgur.com/A8AUEqg.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/UKWSKje.png)

:heart
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Post by: Himu on May 09, 2014, 02:23:19 AM
Holllllllllllllllllllllllly shit, I haven't heard this song in a long, long time. :whew

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkL5DP57En4

:bow :bow :bow :bow :bow
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Post by: Joe Molotov on June 16, 2014, 06:53:16 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/xBIjEyi.png)

 :leon

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I've never played FFV
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Post by: Positive Touch on June 16, 2014, 07:12:45 PM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
I've never played FFV
[close]

:leon :leon :leon
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Post by: demi on June 16, 2014, 07:20:19 PM
FFV is pretty good. The Four Job Fiesta helps cut all the bullshit of the Job System. Just know that every enemy and boss are completely do-able. You may have to grind at points.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on June 16, 2014, 07:20:22 PM
Trying to decide which version to play. The PSOne version is only version I own, but everyone hates on that. I'd like to play FFV Advance, but I don't have FFV Advance or a Gameboy Advance. I loaded up a rom on gpSP, but it ran like crap, so I'll pass on that.
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Post by: demi on June 16, 2014, 08:01:24 PM
Just buy a copy. Its not an expensive game. FFV is on Vita, if you want to play that. There's also iOS version.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 16, 2014, 08:20:06 PM
I have only played IV to completion and it was amazing.
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Post by: Freyj on June 16, 2014, 08:56:47 PM
Does the PS1 version of V have the atrocious load times of IV / CT?
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Post by: Himu on June 16, 2014, 09:15:57 PM
Get a rom for ffv advance
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 16, 2014, 09:18:49 PM
I've only played V and VI on PS1. It was ok.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on June 16, 2014, 10:21:57 PM
Get a rom for ffv advance

No.

(http://i.imgur.com/O7ABDr3.jpg)

8) 8) 8) 8)  8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

On a whim, I swung by Game Xchange, the only place around that sells GBA stuff. Not only did they have FFVa, but just this morning some kid had traded in an immaculate AGS-101 model SP, which I'd been trying to track down for a while anyway (without paying too much or buying one that was beat to hell).
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Post by: demi on June 16, 2014, 10:25:27 PM
chubby hubby with that gamer swag. no dirty poor antics for him.
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Post by: Himu on June 16, 2014, 10:59:24 PM
Get a rom for ffv advance

No.

(http://i.imgur.com/O7ABDr3.jpg)

8) 8) 8) 8)  8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

On a whim, I swung by Game Xchange, the only place around that sells GBA stuff. Not only did they have FFVa, but just this morning some kid had traded in an immaculate AGS-101 model SP, which I'd been trying to track down for a while anyway (without paying too much or buying one that was beat to hell).

:bow

GBASP!!!
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Post by: ZephyrFate on June 17, 2014, 01:56:11 AM
The only reason I'd prefer FFV FJF on an emulator is being able to speed up grinding, because god damn it can take forever in the basement of Baal Castle.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on June 17, 2014, 11:57:57 PM
Final Fantasy V OST :lawd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59DVP884qrk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65QGyov0-Ek

Even though I never got more than a few hours into FFV on the PSOne, I used to listen to the soundtrack from Final Fantasy Anthology all the time. :uguu
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Post by: bork on June 18, 2014, 12:50:19 PM
i bought final fantasy x-2 HD and i don't know why
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Post by: Joe Molotov on June 18, 2014, 01:28:39 PM
I know why.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Cuz ur a weeb  :expert
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In FFV related news, I know it won't last forever, but having 4 two-handed Knights just beating the crap out of everything is glorious. :aah

Also, I named my main character "Buttz".
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Post by: Himu on June 18, 2014, 01:37:35 PM
i bought final fantasy x-2 HD and i don't know why

What can I do for you?!?!?!?
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Post by: bork on June 18, 2014, 03:38:11 PM
I know why.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Cuz ur a weeb  :expert
[close]

(http://images.pushsquare.com/news/2013/03/rumour_final_fantasy_x_2_hd_is_also_coming_to_playstation_3_and_vita/large.jpg)

:uguu :expert :uguu :expert :uguu

I actually played through a large chunk of FFX and barely ever touched X-2, so I figured why not and got it on the cheap.  But it's really, really hard for me to play it.  I started it and immediately was turned off by just about everything except for class-changing in-battle.   :lol :-[

i bought final fantasy x-2 HD and i don't know why

What can I do for you?!?!?!?

This was literally the only thing I remembered about this game.   :lol
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Post by: Himu on June 18, 2014, 04:00:17 PM
Don't like the battle system? You WOULD like the sailor moon stuff.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on June 18, 2014, 11:03:09 PM
Was hoping for a Red Mage for my Water job, but a Summoner might nice too...

(http://i.imgur.com/YUWOKRU.png)

 :cody
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Post by: Joe Molotov on June 18, 2014, 11:55:05 PM
I haven't really studied the classes at all, I just figured it would be good to have someone that could cast a healing spell. Do I have any other options vis-a-vis health at that point, besides just spamming potions?

But why even bother with potions? I'm just letting my party go nucking futs with two-handed 'zerker distinguished mentally-challenged fellow strength.  :maf

Sadly though, atm they not really much stronger than Knights and they lose a ton of agility. :( HULK NEED BETTER GEAR.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on June 19, 2014, 01:06:56 AM
The first time I participated in a FJF, I got a party with Chemist and Blue Mage. The other two didn't even matter at that point, those two alone are enough to break the game solo.

I got burnt out last year loading up with too many challenges at once and kinda gave up on the run. Friend keeps pushing me to participate this year, but It'd just be a normal run if I do. Anything Natural kinda limits things too much for my liking.
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Post by: SpeedStats on June 19, 2014, 01:34:50 AM
Natural isn't that bad if you don't get a shitty party.  I'd advise against asking for a Berserker Risk on Natural since you can't swap skills around to make Berserkers more useful.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on June 19, 2014, 01:40:07 AM
I can't ask for berserker risk on a run registered after the fiesta's started anyway.  :derp
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Post by: Himu on June 19, 2014, 01:46:48 AM
Got mage.

Also:

(http://i.imgur.com/s5A4SrJ.jpg)

Fuck you FFV iOS.
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Post by: Himu on June 19, 2014, 03:14:09 AM
I wrote Mage before but I meant BLUE Mage. Fuckkkkk
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Post by: Joe Molotov on June 19, 2014, 02:09:14 PM
And the survey says...

(http://i.imgur.com/rR1SvrR.png)

HIT MORE THINGS.
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Post by: Himu on June 19, 2014, 02:21:28 PM
I fucking HATE blue magic. FUCK
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Post by: demi on June 19, 2014, 02:26:06 PM
Blue Magic is one of the best classes in the game in the Fiesta.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2014, 02:32:56 PM
I know! I just don't like gathering blue magic skills in FF
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Post by: SpeedStats on June 20, 2014, 12:11:32 AM
Blue mage is one of those classes that can make the game a joke. And if you really wanted to, you could solo the entire game with it.  You just have to go out of your way to get some of the skills, and you have to pray for a Beastmaster for !Control or someone with Charm.

Blue mage can use the Excalipoor with Goblin Punch so it uses the attack power attached to the weapon.  Goblin Punch in a lot of cases is amazing, especially since it ignores reflect and works with the equipped weapon's base power.  And their elemental spells can be amplified by equipping them with a rod. 

I wish I drew Blue Mage, haha. It's just too bad they can be a chore.
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Post by: Himu on June 20, 2014, 12:23:04 AM
Yeah I got goblin punch and I'm trashing shit.
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Post by: ZephyrFate on June 20, 2014, 12:24:14 AM
Mog isn't comparable at all. You just bring him with you to different terrains and he learns dances.
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Post by: Positive Touch on June 20, 2014, 08:17:47 AM
....no one in here mentioned mog :wtf
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Post by: demi on June 20, 2014, 08:40:58 AM
I think we need to call out Joe for not beating FF4. Where is the proof? Show me the fucking receipts.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on June 20, 2014, 08:49:18 AM
It's on the backburner.
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Post by: Lucretius on June 20, 2014, 09:01:01 AM
V and VI are the only FF games I never beat.  Never got very far in either even.

Just got my Dragoon to lvl 50 in XIV though!

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/7666095/
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Post by: benjipwns on June 20, 2014, 12:27:52 PM
FINALLY:
Quote
High Speed Mode

Speedrunner special! This mode allows you to speed up certain parts of the game (cutscenes, movies, battles and more) by up to five times the regular speed!

Battle Assistance

Great for final boss battles or for taking on Ultima/Omega Weapon again, this booster grants you an always full ATB gauge, always full HP as well as making Limit Breaks always available. It's almost like cheating, except that your characters will still die if the damage they suffer from one hit is greater than their HP levels.

9999

Pretty self-explanatory! Your normal attacks, certain limit breaks and some Guardian Force (G.F.) attacks will always deal the maximum 9,999 damage.

AP Max

Ability Points (AP) are used to teach your G.F. new abilities. This booster therefore allows your G.F. to max out their APs when you're on the world map. This should also help those of you attempting the No-Level challenge!

Magic and Gil Max

The magic booster, as before will give you 100 of each acquired magic spell, but this booster now also allows you to give yourself the maximum limit of Gil.
http://eu.square-enix.com/en/blog/final-fantasy-viii-now-updated-new-features
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Post by: demi on June 20, 2014, 12:42:34 PM
It's on the backburner.

Fuck this shit. You cant just break continuity.
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Post by: ZephyrFate on June 20, 2014, 04:12:08 PM
....no one in here mentioned mog :wtf
Himuro edited his post, which originally talked about how she never uses mog or gau
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Post by: bork on June 20, 2014, 04:15:32 PM
Don't like the battle system? You WOULD like the sailor moon stuff.

Battle system?  Who said anything about that?  It's the running around on pre-rendered BGs, high encounter rates, and having to look for save points that doesn't sit well with me. Plus the load times kind of suck now.

Just pretty much reminds me of why I don't usually like Square games.  I'll keep going and get further in before dropping the final judgement, though.
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Post by: demi on June 20, 2014, 04:28:51 PM
THE FINAL JUDGMENT
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Post by: Joe Molotov on June 20, 2014, 10:34:13 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/GYKI3Sx.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/qRSdEGz.gif)
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on June 21, 2014, 04:13:42 PM
Decided to participate in the Fiesta after all, even if a little late.

Wind Job: Thief.

Water Job: Berserker.  :dead
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Post by: Joe Molotov on June 21, 2014, 04:50:03 PM
I've been grinding and mah peeps are all buff as hell now. Lv. 34 starting out World 2, also bought two Flame Rings. Gilgamesh went down like a bitch.
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Post by: Himu on June 21, 2014, 04:59:14 PM
I've been grinding and mah peeps are all buff as hell now. Lv. 34 starting out World 2, also bought two Flame Rings. Gilgamesh went down like a bitch.

Jesus Christ.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on June 21, 2014, 05:07:18 PM
I let my party walk around Berserked while watching The Lego Movie and Godzilla vs Biollante.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on June 23, 2014, 11:33:06 AM
"Grass isn't supposed to attack people!"

Profound words of wisdom.
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Post by: magus on June 23, 2014, 12:45:28 PM
"Grass isn't supposed to attack people!"

Profound words of wisdom.

http://spoonyexperiment.com/game-reviews/ultima-3-exodus-breaking-news/
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Post by: recursivelyenumerable on June 23, 2014, 03:56:43 PM
diff cultures have diff norms - some would be shocked & insulted by grass not bothering to attack them
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Post by: Joe Molotov on June 23, 2014, 07:42:22 PM
Galuf :'(

He was a true bro. Not only did he die to save everyone, but he also gave me his underage granddaughter.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on June 26, 2014, 04:41:30 PM
I made it to NeoExdeath, but I got wrekt.
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Post by: ZephyrFate on June 26, 2014, 04:45:26 PM
im doing a random FJF, and I rolled Black Mage/Summoner/Monk/Mystic Knight

I feel like the Monk is def gonna be the weak link soon.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on June 26, 2014, 09:45:04 PM
Final Fantasy V
Fainaru Fantajī Faibu
Original Release: December 6, 1992
Edition Played: GBA
Time to Beat: 36 hours
Score: Androgynous Princess/10

(http://i.imgur.com/4SPsFKR.png)

FFV was pretty rad. I had fun doing the Job Fiesta, even though it was my first playthrough. My party was almost pure physical, so my playthrough was just all about grindan, getting sweet loot, and bashing guys. The good things in life. I kept my party leveled above the curve so I didn't have much trouble in the game until late, mostly with high-defense enemies, but nothing too major. Exdeath was tough, it took me about 6-7 goes at him before I finally brought him down, praying to RNGsus the whole time that he wouldn't cast Almagest too many times or that Grand Cross wouldn't turn everyone into a zombie. Finally did it, and with everyone at near max health even, so I got the good ending where everyone escapes the Void. Feels good, man.

Now my FF batteries are recharged, I'm diving back into FFIV and I've already got FFVI Advance on order. :rock
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Post by: ZephyrFate on June 28, 2014, 07:26:10 PM
can't get through great sea trench. the switch for kaiser knuckles works, one of the switches in the SW corner works, but the other two won't work so I can't get to the tablet at all. wtf.
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Post by: ZephyrFate on June 28, 2014, 08:45:17 PM
nvm. love that only one fucking walkthrough actually stated that the switches have to be hit in a certain order
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Post by: recursivelyenumerable on June 29, 2014, 02:52:40 AM
The pyramid was the most annoying dungeon though
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Post by: ZephyrFate on June 29, 2014, 03:04:09 AM
i ran from everything i didn't need to fight. not worth it. those fucking snakes though :|
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Post by: Joe Molotov on July 02, 2014, 11:01:17 PM
Bout 10 hours into FF4, just did the Tower of Babil.  How many niccas gonna die on me in this game? Like Cecil ain't already got enough blood on his hands. :beli
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Post by: magus on July 03, 2014, 06:36:08 AM
Bout 10 hours into FF4, just did the Tower of Babil.  How many niccas gonna die on me in this game? Like Cecil ain't already got enough blood on his hands. :beli

is it time for me to post that comic again?

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y296/wahoninja/four.jpg)

IT IS!
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Post by: Joe Molotov on July 03, 2014, 04:47:04 PM
Dammit, my copy of Final Fantasy VI Advance came today, and it's obvious bootleg (cart feels weird, no Squeenix/Nintendo logo on label, characters from FF4 on the artwork, lawl  ::) ) I was nervous because when I bought it from Amazon, there were all these "Just Started" sellers selling FF6 way cheaper than everyone else, so I avoided those and went with one that was more expensive and was from a seller with like 20,000+ sells and ~97% positive. Still got a bootleg. Back to Amazon with you.
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Post by: archnemesis on July 04, 2014, 12:38:26 AM
GBA bootlegs are so common that you are better off pirating games for it.
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Post by: demi on July 04, 2014, 12:52:37 AM
Or he could stop for a second and look for actual auctions with pictures. Thought you were smarter than this, chubs.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on July 05, 2014, 06:45:08 PM
I didn't know I'd be able to tell a bootleg just by looking at the label. I figured if they could copy the game, they could copy the label too. Oh well, I'm sending it back.
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Post by: Positive Touch on July 05, 2014, 07:57:30 PM
buy my copy aside from a slight crease in the cover its mint and complete
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Post by: nachobro on July 05, 2014, 07:58:27 PM
I'm thinking about running through FF12 International now that I've wrung out all I'm gonna get from FFX/X2. I got the game running in 720p in PCSX2 but are there any must have mods? I got the English patch ISO maker thing already but I dunno what else is out there.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on July 05, 2014, 08:31:20 PM
buy my copy aside from a slight crease in the cover its mint and complete

How much you want for it?
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Post by: Positive Touch on July 05, 2014, 08:50:45 PM
um whatever the going rate is i guess? or a few dollars off that?? i dunno sorry ive gotta go out in a minute and wont be back til late so i cant get you the details like pics or whatever til tomorrow  :-\
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Post by: Positive Touch on July 05, 2014, 08:57:51 PM
ok wait i have time now pm'd
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Post by: demi on July 05, 2014, 11:40:18 PM
Damn u getting fleeced, Joe. Might as well just take your chance online if hes offering online prices.
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Post by: Positive Touch on July 06, 2014, 12:30:46 AM
goddamnit demi you bastard quit cockblocking :lol you know when you order from me you're getting exactly what's promised. QUALITY UEBER ALLES.

but seriously Joe no pressure; if u don't wanna order from me that's completely fine. no response necessary.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on July 06, 2014, 12:42:25 AM
Well for now, I'm finishing up FF4. I'm on the moon, doing moon stuff atm. After that I'll probably either do After Years or just skip ahead to FF7.

Or maybe Mystic Quest.   :leon
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Post by: Positive Touch on July 06, 2014, 01:07:08 AM
mystic quest soundtrack :rejoice
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Post by: Joe Molotov on July 07, 2014, 09:30:51 PM
Right at the end of FFIV; I've pretty much done everything you can do before beating the game. I got Bahamut, I did the Cave of Trials, I got everyone's l33t gear. Only thing I didn't do is get any Pink Tails. I thought about doing it, but the grind is pretty distinguished mentally-challenged. I fought the Flan Princessess for about an hour, then I looked online and saw that there was only a 1/64 of getting a Pink Tail IF anything drops, and judging by my success rate, there's only like a 1/5 chance of anything dropping. Even using sirens, that's just painful.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on July 07, 2014, 11:30:59 PM
Final Fantasy IV
Fainaru Fantajī Fō
Original Release: July 19, 1991
Edition Played: PSP
Time to Beat: 27 hours
Score: Everyone Dies (J/K!)/10

(http://i.imgur.com/rdLjYSX.jpg)

FF4 was a lot more straightforward than FF5 (although the way I played FF5 was pretty straightforward too). No job system, only Black/White/Summon magic, automatically learn spells. People come and go from your party, but you never have more than 5 people at a time, and can't switch out characters until the very end. When characters come back, they're always properly learned, so you don't have to worry about people getting behind. The story was pretty straightforward too: bad guy is trying to get all the crystals, you have to stop him or bad stuff will happen. The beginning was cool though, with Cecil basically being a bad guy and the beginning and then having to try to atone for his sins and become a hero. Then the end when you went to moon, things got a little weird there.

It was fun. I think I liked FF5 better, though. Probably not going to play After Years right away, I'll come back to it later at some point.
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Post by: Lucretius on July 07, 2014, 11:48:19 PM
The secret best PlayStation FF game turned 14 years old today.

Final Fantasy IX was released in Japan July 7, 2000.

I never understood the hate for IX.  I think the chibi/super deformed art style was reviled in much the same way it was initially criticized in Wind Waker.  But IX has aged way better visually than VII or VIII.

I think IX is probably my favorite (non MMORPG) Final Fantasy game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ts4dOW6zuzM
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Post by: Himu on July 07, 2014, 11:59:25 PM
The hate for IX has always been overstated. Upon reveal, it always had its detractors from people who simply didn't like the art style. Can remember when it was revealed alongside with X, and XI and get warm fuzzy feelings inside my tummy. IX is a great game. Just highly flawed, mostly in the combat area. Still a fantastic game and probably the first game I got addicted to. Got off disc 1 in less than a week during Thanksgiving vacation and beat the fuck out of it in time for Christmas. At the time, it was bad for my grades but I still managed to pull them back up to A's and B's. I have no idea how I did it but it had to be Squaresoft Power coupled with Ritalin. At one point in time (upon release) it was probably my favorite in the series. That changed over time, though.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 08, 2014, 03:04:03 AM
Is Final Fantasy VI Advance region free?

I'm sure I have it at my parents home, boxed and in good shape.

Didn't know it was worth something.
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Post by: archnemesis on July 08, 2014, 03:19:32 AM
Yep, the GBA games are region free. I have the North American versions of the Final Fantasy Advance games and they work fine with my European NDS.
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Post by: ZephyrFate on July 08, 2014, 03:43:06 AM
IX has some of the most brilliant & awe-inspiring background design I've seen in videogames. If you haven't seen Mama Robotnik's HD background art (the "lost art" of FFIX) you need to. They were doing things the PS2 wasn't really even able to do for a while, but it had to be super-compressed to fit on the PS1 discs.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on July 08, 2014, 12:59:18 PM
Final Fantasy: Mystic Quest

The first enemy hit me with a critical attack and I died. Dark Souls-tier difficulty, over here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZOQ8sLO-vU
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Post by: Positive Touch on July 08, 2014, 05:24:43 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Ra5xEEN.gif)

:fistful
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Post by: tiesto on July 08, 2014, 09:31:51 PM
In hindsight, I really liked 9, but the slow battle speed and the fact I didn't find the soundtrack nearly as memorable as 7 or 8 (thought Nobuo was stretched a bit too thin on it) hurt it. It's much better than anything that followed it.
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Post by: ZephyrFate on July 08, 2014, 09:42:58 PM
I used to think FFIX had weak tracks, but when you realize how well-tuned to the context of each area they are, it becomes a basically perfect soundtrack. Even stuff like Qu's Marsh has an incredible track.
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Post by: recursivelyenumerable on July 10, 2014, 05:18:31 AM
Yeah IX's soundtrack is high-tier FF when you're playing the game or if you listen selectively, but listening to the whole OST isn't really a thing you can do (even by giant-dork-like-me-who-listens-to-4-disc-game-OSTs-front-to-back standards)
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Post by: Joe Molotov on July 12, 2014, 07:31:52 PM
FYI, Mystic Quest is not very good.
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Post by: Himu on July 12, 2014, 08:10:52 PM
Thank you for telling us
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Post by: Joe Molotov on July 12, 2014, 08:19:38 PM
np
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Post by: Joe Molotov on July 12, 2014, 08:22:09 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-M8fuegtVc
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Post by: Positive Touch on July 12, 2014, 08:26:46 PM
I actually ordered the free strategy guide that came with it back in the day. shame I can't find it anymore because scans of it online are really rare.
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Post by: recursivelyenumerable on July 12, 2014, 08:45:19 PM
MQ is one of the few FF games to have something resembling actual level design, though
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Post by: magus on July 12, 2014, 08:54:24 PM
FYI, Mystic Quest is not very good.

so you are telling me mystic quest is the lightning returns of the past? :hitler

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Post by: Joe Molotov on July 12, 2014, 09:10:18 PM
The best part about FF Legends was the end of the first one.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
(http://i.imgur.com/4MlOMZy.jpg)

lawl, eff you, god!
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Post by: recursivelyenumerable on July 12, 2014, 09:25:27 PM
mystic quest is another final fantasy legend game.  only better.

 :comeon

mq has a few good aspects, but ffl1/2 are still up there with my fave rpgs of all time for their worlds and character/ability systems
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Post by: ZephyrFate on July 12, 2014, 09:31:37 PM
FYI, Mystic Quest is not very good.

so you are telling me mystic quest is the lightning returns of the past? :hitler
no, LR is actually good.
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Post by: magus on July 12, 2014, 09:43:06 PM
i'm pretty sure mystic quest has the better plot though :heh
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Post by: ZephyrFate on July 12, 2014, 09:46:25 PM
Mystic Quest doesn't really even have a plot.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on July 15, 2014, 03:22:18 AM
Final Fantasy: Mystic Quest
Fainaru Fantajī Yū Esu Ē Misutikku Kuesuto
Original Release: October 5, 1992
Edition Played: SNES (Wii VC)
Time to Beat: 12 hours
Score:  :zzz/10

(http://i.imgur.com/Jr9XD9y.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Svkrf2d.jpg)

The good parts were the music and the dungeon design. The bad was pretty much everything else. Combat was tedious and boring. The plot was non-existent at best, and confusing at worse. People just appear and reappear out of nowhere and tell me to do stuff and I'm like "Bitch, I don't even know who you are." Spells, items, and equipment were all dumbed down to the point of not being interesting at all. Because of how limited the items were, the rewards for actually exploring the dungeons were lame (go down some side passage and fight 5 mobs to get a chest with 3 potions :lol )
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Athough legit Final Fantasy games also pull that crap.  :hitler
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I had a ton of gold by the end of the game, even after buying 99 of the four total items that it lets you buy in the game. None of the bosses were challenging when you could just spam White/Meteor/Flare every turn, use your near infinite seed supply when you ran out of MP.

But saying all that, it's pretty much what I expected going in. I was curious though, I decided to give it a whirl while I was working my way through the SNES FF's. Now that it's out of the way, FF7 is up next (FF6 is on hold for the time being).



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Post by: Joe Molotov on July 15, 2014, 03:23:35 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/g7QpVYs.jpg?1)
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Post by: ZephyrFate on July 15, 2014, 03:52:32 AM
Everything amazing about FFVII is contained solely within the Midgar segment of the beginning of the game. If it had stayed in Midgar the whole game, it would have been a truly unique jRPG, not just the most popular one. The Shadow Hearts' series kinda dabbled in dystopia (as a reflection of the '10s/'20s eras) but there aren't really any that so effectively captured dystopia like Midgar. It's a nice critique of where our cities are headed toward.
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Post by: ZephyrFate on July 15, 2014, 04:47:38 AM
It feels like they had a super original idea with Midgar (even for the time, future dystopia wasn't an incredibly popular motif, Shadowrun et. al. aside) and then decided to reign it back and present most of the rest of the world as fairly generic wrapped up in a convoluted story about identity.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 15, 2014, 05:23:25 AM
Midgar was the shit, rest of the game doesn't compare except 2 things:

-City of the Ancients music
-That feeling when you left Midgar and thought "DAMN this was just one town" of course rest of towns werent nearly as cool
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Post by: magus on July 15, 2014, 05:30:21 AM
if i have a problem with the remaining discs is that they don't have many new location, you visit that snowy mountain at the start of disc 2 and then the rest of the game takes place in location you've already visited

that bit with junon on disc 2 is still amazing though :lawd

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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 15, 2014, 05:35:49 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S25R3FGwPZw

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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 15, 2014, 07:08:40 AM
That would have been great as an ending you are right, just to get a whiff that this was only part of a huge world.

Up until leaving Midgar I thought the whole game would take place there.
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Post by: Himu on July 15, 2014, 10:15:00 AM
Same.

Leaving midgar was a mistake. FFVII is still really good though. It's story goes batshit, but it's story pacing , humor, variety in activities, and side quests still make it a pretty damn great game. Not better than VIII of course.
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Post by: demi on July 15, 2014, 10:18:34 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/g7QpVYs.jpg?1)

PC ver :sick
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Post by: magus on July 15, 2014, 10:49:12 AM
fuck it, you know what? i'm going to replay FF7 too, me and joe will be FF7 bro, he'll be the giant moogle suit to my cait sith
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Post by: Himu on July 15, 2014, 10:50:25 AM
Replayed FFVII this year. Great as usual.
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Post by: demi on July 15, 2014, 10:55:53 AM
I watch carnage64 on twitch speedrun FF7 every day. Granted, he often dies to Demon Wall, but still
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Post by: magus on July 15, 2014, 11:34:07 AM
Replayed FFVII this year. Great as usual.

you know one thing that i absolutely love about the game is the dialogue, i always go through the tutorial even though i know everything there is to know because i find it hilarious, you go talking to 3 bodybuilder and cloud explain the game to them in the smuggest tone ever that a videogame will ever have "press L1 and R1 to escape, it's not like i will ever need it, unlike you!" :lol "be carefull of power outage! you don't want to lose your progress, if you do happen to lose your progress just chill down and try later" the game declares :lol, then a chest appear out of thin air and it's all like "i'm a chest! be on the lookout for me!" and i can't help but think "wtf? why is a treasure chest explaining stuff to me?" :lol :lol :lol

modern square-enix could never remake FF7, modern square-enix is too grimdark and the least said about nomura new artwork compared to nomura old artwork, the better
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Post by: Joe Molotov on July 15, 2014, 01:56:42 PM
Final Fantasy VII OST :lawd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1APjqhgIXE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr0pNEnJ2dI

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHpn-o9n-cs
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Post by: ZephyrFate on July 15, 2014, 02:23:37 PM
Replayed FFVII this year. Great as usual.

you know one thing that i absolutely love about the game is the dialogue, i always go through the tutorial even though i know everything there is to know because i find it hilarious, you go talking to 3 bodybuilder and cloud explain the game to them in the smuggest tone ever that a videogame will ever have "press L1 and R1 to escape, it's not like i will ever need it, unlike you!" :lol "be carefull of power outage! you don't want to lose your progress, if you do happen to lose your progress just chill down and try later" the game declares :lol, then a chest appear out of thin air and it's all like "i'm a chest! be on the lookout for me!" and i can't help but think "wtf? why is a treasure chest explaining stuff to me?" :lol :lol :lol

modern square-enix could never remake FF7, modern square-enix is too grimdark and the least said about nomura new artwork compared to nomura old artwork, the better
Eh, S-E still has funny writers. They're just not put on big games.
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Post by: Himu on July 15, 2014, 02:24:28 PM
One thing I've never liked about post FFVII related VII products is that they are without VII's humor. It's like SE played a totally different game than the game I loved. Given their characterization of Cloud in media after VII, I'm going to bet they haven't even played the game.
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Post by: Himu on July 15, 2014, 02:30:29 PM
I'm lucky (unlucky?) that they haven't done a thing with VIII. Both VIIII and VII are stereotyped as being overly serious when they're full of comedy.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on July 15, 2014, 02:33:17 PM
The one moment that I'll always remember about FF7 is the Palmer fight where he randomly gets run over by a truck. I almost fell out of my chair laughing. :lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFJFPyMv3L8
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Post by: Himu on July 15, 2014, 02:35:01 PM
:rofl
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Post by: SpeedStats on July 15, 2014, 03:05:33 PM
Some people say the date sequence with Barret is the funniest part of the game.  While that could arguably be true for some, Palmer getting jobbed by a truck is still one of my favourite parts of an FF in post-SNES FFs.

I miss that humour so much. 

Yeah, FF13-2 has Serah fangirling over Snow (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4ZhE7PjSMo), and Lightning Returns has Meow-Meow-Choco-Chow (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYqGbMHAZ8U) (which isn't as funny), but it's not the same.  :'(
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Post by: Himu on July 15, 2014, 03:11:01 PM
Neither of those two XIII examples are funny to me. :( FF and comedy died in X-2. X was the last main series game to have it though. I thought the lack of comedy was fine in XII, and even that had I'M BASCH VON ROSENBERG.
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Post by: ZephyrFate on July 15, 2014, 03:11:07 PM
As shitty as the game is, FF: All The Bravest has some of the funniest writing the company has ever done.

http://kotaku.com/5976887/if-theres-one-reason-to-play-final-fantasy-all-the-bravest-its-the-hilarious-flavor-text

also, uh, FFXIII comedy?

Sazh and a Gigantuar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN1Y8nEYg80
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Post by: SpeedStats on July 15, 2014, 03:38:37 PM
I think that fell under forced humour to me when I went through it. :/
It's probably mostly because the game's tone was pretty serious, and by the time I got to the quest in postgame, I'd listened and read through so much text/dialogue that was serious or expanded upon the mythology that as much as I wanted to find it funny, I didn't.  I think Sazh running around the casino in his FF13-2 DLC was funnier in context since that game's tone was loftier.

I'll agree with Himu in saying that the last FF that was genuinely funny to me was FFX-2, but part of that reason was because FFX-2 was not as serious in terms of tone despite dealing with political issues and a world trying to deal with ideological differences and a massive lifestyle change.  You also have a trio of characters who play off of each other pretty well despite being different (one being awkward sometimes which leads to humour, one who's naturally funny/klutzy, and one who's mostly serious but can crack a joke).  So when they interact, it doesn't feel as forced.  Even the sometimes-awkward animations and alright scene direction can play into it too.  Playing the international version has its perks because the Creature Create stories can be pretty funny because they're monsters interacting with humans in a stupid way and the script is written well. 

FF12's humour comes out of quips or a character trying to be genuine even if it looks pretty stupid (ex: I'M CAPTAIN BASCH, "How old is Fran again!?").  And it still meshes well without feeling like it doesn't jive as well with the rest of the game's tone. 

I'd go through FF:ATB again because the flavour text as okay, but it crashes upon startup now and even then that's not a major loss because it was free.

Honestly, it's been interesting going from Lightning Returns right back to playing FF5.  FF5 gets really serious, but it still retains that humorous tone it had at the beginning of the game even while you're doing endgame sidequests, and the humour feels organic because the characters (well, Bartz, Faris, and Galuf in particular) are less-inclined to treat everything seriously as opposed to the character you control in LR.
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Post by: Himu on July 15, 2014, 03:39:19 PM
A secret boss counts as FF comedy now. :goty2

If we're talking about the main series only, I'd say X was the last humorous FF game. XII had its moments, but as said, they were sparse, and mostly one-liners. XIII was a complete dud in this category. Haven't played LR or 13-2 but I doubt it's not forced.

The funniest thing in 13 was Hope trying to kill Snow.

And this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLKSFPrD_Tk
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Post by: Himu on July 15, 2014, 03:47:19 PM
WORST BIRTHDAY EVER :rofl

I can't find the version of that with a laugh track. SOMEONE HELP.
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Post by: SpeedStats on July 15, 2014, 04:08:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkfI2_ovUuE

I thought Hope trying to kill Snow was the best part of FF13, though. >_>
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Post by: Himu on July 15, 2014, 04:11:07 PM
:rofl
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Post by: magus on July 15, 2014, 05:31:06 PM
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One thing I've never liked about post FFVII related VII products is that they are without VII's humor. It's like SE played a totally different game than the game I loved. Given their characterization of Cloud in media after VII, I'm going to bet they haven't even played the game.

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Haven't played LR or 13-2 but I doubt it's not forced.

yeah look how funny LR is :goty2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_XbeX2SMTQ

"CRAWLING IN MY SKINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN"
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Post by: Himu on July 15, 2014, 05:46:15 PM
Why the fuck is Cloud brooding post VII? Cloud in Kingdom Hearts for instance makes me seethe. Cloud never broods in VII. And he's only about himself for all of five minutes.

It's funny because they nailed the essence of Squall - loner, who still cares for his friends, dark sense of humor, slightly brooding but still able to crack a joke, natural leader - more than Cloud and Cloud is their most popular character.
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Post by: magus on July 15, 2014, 06:05:48 PM
Why the fuck is Cloud brooding post VII? Cloud in Kingdom Hearts for instance makes me seethe. Cloud never broods in VII. And he's only about himself for all of five minutes.

It's funny because they nailed the essence of Squall - loner, who still cares for his friends, dark sense of humor, slightly brooding but still able to crack a joke, natural leader - more than Cloud and Cloud is their most popular character.

because AERIS/TH DIES!!1!!1!

also it's a lot easier having a character brood all the time than actualy writing dialogue for him
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Post by: Joe Molotov on July 15, 2014, 07:49:36 PM
Creating HD dialogue is hard.
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Post by: recursivelyenumerable on July 15, 2014, 08:00:57 PM
I find Snow pretty funny/entertaining in general tbh
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Post by: ZephyrFate on July 15, 2014, 09:07:05 PM
FF7's humor is a result of a wacky collection of developers and designers for the time as well as it being an expansive, expensive, and at the time new format to work on. They could do a lot more with 3D than they could with 2D. But the humor in FF7 ranges from homophobic to awkward and wouldn't translate well to modern times.
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Post by: Himu on July 15, 2014, 09:10:44 PM
Homophobic? You're reaching, mate.

Naw. FFVII has RedXIII trying to stand up on two legs while in a military uniform and Barret in a sailor suit. FFVII is hilarious.
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Post by: Positive Touch on July 15, 2014, 09:15:22 PM
he means the bodybuilder gym
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Post by: Himu on July 15, 2014, 09:18:03 PM
The gym was homophobic? Those guys relished in that shit, big bro. They like dressing up as girls, but everyone in town really doesn't give a fuck. I'm not seeing the homophobia?
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Post by: Himu on July 15, 2014, 09:26:06 PM
The humor in V, VI, and VII are all pretty similar but VII is in its own special place. Was definitely VIII when the humor went in another direction. But then it had Laguna, as well as Seifer making fun of Squall going through puberty. But it, IX and X don't nearly reach the absurdity of a scientist trying to make a red haired talking wolf mate with the last surviving member of an ancient race or a talking puppet who speaks through a fucking microphone broadcasted by a dude somewhere across the world.

VII takes the extremes of older FF comedy and just runs with it. What an odd, fucked up, hilarious piece of software.
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Post by: demi on July 15, 2014, 09:30:24 PM
carn is running FF7 right now if you'd rather watch videogames than play them

twitch.tv/carnage64
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Post by: ZephyrFate on July 15, 2014, 09:34:10 PM
You forgot the rape in the Honeybee Inn so fast?
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Post by: Himu on July 15, 2014, 09:39:12 PM
Which one? Hot tub where cloud counts? Or the one where he has a mako seizure and wakes up on a bed? Because there's nothing to indicate that he was raped in the latter, and he definitely wasn't raped in the former.
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Post by: ZephyrFate on July 15, 2014, 09:44:54 PM
There is definitely an insinuation that he was raped by homosexual bodybuilders in that hotel. I'm pretty sure everyone infers this to be true at this point
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Post by: ZephyrFate on July 15, 2014, 09:46:05 PM
He wakes up with a dude on top of him after a fade to black smh
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Post by: Himu on July 15, 2014, 10:01:21 PM
The guy is on top of him because Cloud passed out, and he's slapping Cloud to wake up. The only thing that could be suggested as rape are the sound effects during the black out. Stuff like, thump...pound..thump..pound, and Cloud's HP being restored. But Cloud wakes up with an,"OW!" basically, no one knows what's going on in that scene, and it'd probably be homophobia in itself to infer rape.
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Post by: Positive Touch on July 15, 2014, 10:07:54 PM
we were supposed to laugh at them cuz they were poofy touchy shirtless gay dudes

oops this post was meant for like 30 min ago
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Post by: Himu on July 15, 2014, 10:09:58 PM
I laughed at them because they're fighting over a wig, but that is definitely homophobia.

Also, while I wouldn't say Cloud was raped, he was definitely molested in that bath tub.
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Post by: Positive Touch on July 15, 2014, 10:24:04 PM
yes
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Post by: Joe Molotov on July 15, 2014, 10:44:52 PM
It was rape, but it wasn't rape-rape.
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Post by: Positive Touch on July 15, 2014, 10:57:29 PM
also i should point out that playing mystic quest but skipping 6 is a crime against all humanity
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Post by: Joe Molotov on July 15, 2014, 11:15:18 PM
also i should point out that playing mystic quest but skipping 6 is a crime against all humanity

Send me your copy and I will correct this immediately.
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Post by: demi on July 15, 2014, 11:15:23 PM
I'm sure he would if he could find a good deal on a copy. Hmmm....
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Post by: Himu on July 15, 2014, 11:17:06 PM
also i should point out that playing mystic quest but skipping 6 is a crime against all humanity

Send me your copy and I will correct this immediately.

I have FFVIa sitting right next to me. Want it?
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Post by: Joe Molotov on July 15, 2014, 11:32:12 PM
Yessssss. (http://i.imgur.com/ix70G1d.gif)  How much you want for it?
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Post by: ZephyrFate on July 15, 2014, 11:36:07 PM
Kweh
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Post by: demi on July 15, 2014, 11:44:44 PM
Yessssss. (http://i.imgur.com/ix70G1d.gif)  How much you want for it?

Send me a shirtless and I will send you my copy.
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Post by: Lucretius on July 16, 2014, 01:59:53 AM
The Hildibrand quests in FFXIV ARR are probably the funniest things I've ever seen in a FF game. And new ones keep coming with every major patch. If you're not going to play FFXIV then YouTube the Hildibrand cutscenes.
http://youtu.be/VbEan62z8RA

I really hope Hildebrand becomes a recurring character in future FF games kind if like Cid and Gilgamesh.
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Post by: ZephyrFate on July 16, 2014, 03:47:35 AM
FFXIV has outstanding writing. I wish it wasn't hidden behind a paywall.

an FFXIV LP with good commentators would be really great. Anyone got any recommendations?
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Post by: magus on July 16, 2014, 06:47:53 AM
gay rape by big burly muscle man is clearly a form of art you guys don't understand! :maf

...

in all seriousness japan seems to have a beef with culturist

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3617882&pagenumber=13#post431383230
http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/choaniki/choaniki.htm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp9sacvNIAU

or at least it had when japan was about being quirky and silly :fbm
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Post by: Lucretius on July 16, 2014, 09:36:42 AM
FFXIV has outstanding writing. I wish it wasn't hidden behind a paywall.

an FFXIV LP with good commentators would be really great. Anyone got any recommendations?

Best money I've spent in gaming in years.  The game is so fun especially now that I have a good guild.
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Post by: Lucretius on July 16, 2014, 11:38:39 AM
The musclemen and cross dressing humor is alive and well in FFXIV.   On more than one quest you have to massage either Hildebrand or his muscled, underwear-clad dad with oil and the writing is appropriately awkward and hilarious. Another quest has Hildibrand conducting an investigation undercover at a wedding... as the bride!
The tone is ridiculous and slapstick;not homophobic.
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Post by: demi on July 16, 2014, 11:49:54 AM
i cant believe you are discussing homophobia in final fantasy. i wish i could leave this hobby. where do i resign.
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Post by: ZephyrFate on July 16, 2014, 03:16:13 PM
It's not really a taboo subject considering the series has had, well, no positive portrayals of gay characters and Japan is known for being outrageously homophobic.
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Post by: demi on July 16, 2014, 03:19:28 PM
yea it was a huge deal when they came out
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Post by: Himu on July 16, 2014, 03:33:56 PM
It's not really a taboo subject considering the series has had, well, no positive portrayals of gay characters and Japan is known for being outrageously homophobic.

Fang and Vanille.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 16, 2014, 03:39:33 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/OXCXpnu.jpg)
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Post by: magus on July 16, 2014, 03:50:16 PM
i cant believe you are discussing homophobia in final fantasy. i wish i could leave this hobby. where do i resign.

I can't wait to discuss final fantasy and bestiality when i finaly get red :phil
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Post by: Himu on July 16, 2014, 03:52:18 PM
Fucking red xiii and aerith mating like rabbits man
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Post by: Himu on July 16, 2014, 03:53:52 PM
This fucking game is hilarious

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2c6GjQfvakY/UfUNjAo3_tI/AAAAAAAADnw/UDPauNtWZbw/s1600/Final+Fantasy+VII+Screenshot+Aeris+Red+XIII+Breeding.jpg)
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Post by: Positive Touch on July 16, 2014, 04:13:37 PM
The Hildibrand quests in FFXIV ARR are probably the funniest things I've ever seen in a FF game. And new ones keep coming with every major patch. If you're not going to play FFXIV then YouTube the Hildibrand cutscenes.
http://youtu.be/VbEan62z8RA

I really hope Hildebrand becomes a recurring character in future FF games kind if like Cid and Gilgamesh.

everything about this video is :what :what :what in the most japanese way possible
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Post by: Himu on July 16, 2014, 04:17:42 PM
I still think the character interaction in FF8 is probably the thing that illicit the most laughs from me. The part where they get on the Timber Owl's train for the mission and they're introducing each other, and Zone puts his hand out to shake Squall's, and Squall just STANDS there. So he's like, whatever man, and shakes Selphie's hand. And then Zell spits on his hand, thrusts it out to be shaken, and he's completely ignored, and goes to cry in the corner gets me every fucking time.
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Post by: magus on July 16, 2014, 04:42:49 PM
The Hildibrand quests in FFXIV ARR are probably the funniest things I've ever seen in a FF game. And new ones keep coming with every major patch. If you're not going to play FFXIV then YouTube the Hildibrand cutscenes.
http://youtu.be/VbEan62z8RA

I really hope Hildebrand becomes a recurring character in future FF games kind if like Cid and Gilgamesh.

everything about this video is :what :what :what in the most japanese way possible

i'm not sure how i missed this video because it's clearly the greatest FF related thing i've seen in a while :rejoice

spoiler (click to show/hide)
why gilgamesh has a green chicken with him?
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Post by: ZephyrFate on July 16, 2014, 08:18:11 PM
It's not really a taboo subject considering the series has had, well, no positive portrayals of gay characters and Japan is known for being outrageously homophobic.

Fang and Vanille.
Eh, I guess. A bit too understated and seemed to fly over a lot of gamers' heads, though.
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Post by: Himu on July 16, 2014, 09:18:45 PM
I also can think of a lot of Japanese media, including anime and manga, that feature bisexual or gay characters. Even in stories aimed at children and young teens. The kicker is that they always treat the characters as normal, and aren't defined by the sexuality. I don't think Japan is getting enough credit here.
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on July 16, 2014, 10:12:27 PM
FFXIV really is where all the humor in the series got dumped to after being sucked dry out of the XIII trilogy. Hildibrand's already been mentioned, but in general a lot of the quests have really solid and funny writing. It also has one of the most incredibly fucked up stories in the whole series via a white mage NPC introduced in the story: Edda

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Early in the main story, the player meets this band of newbie adventurers heading into a dungeon, one of them being Edda and her fiance Avere. You meet them again shortly after, only Avere is missing. You learn that an accident happened in the dungeon where, due to Edda's inexperience, Avere passed away. The group's black mage and archer leave her behind as a result, but not before mentioning how creeped out he was that Edda actually kept Avere's head with him.

Edda meets you face to face a bit later, remarking that she and her fiancee always looked up to you. She takes this meeting as a chance to "start over" and continue her training. She still has his head.

As time passes, Edda slowly starts going nuts. She travels all of Eorzea with Avere's head, talking to it as if it was alive, and slowly comes up with a plan to bring him back to life. She sends out wedding invitations to the archer and black mage, the latter of which is whom tells you about the whole ordeal. The archer dies earlier in the game in an unrelated story point, so you go visit her grave with the black mage only to find that the grave's been dug up. Fearing the worst, you go into the location of the "wedding", which is the same dungeon where Avere originally died.

Inside the dungeons are ripped scraps that chronicle all Edda went through to set up the ritual and her descent into madness. Blood is seen scribbled along the walls, often times in just long strings of Averre's name. The first boss found in the dungeon is a the reanimated corpse of the archer whose grave had been dug up. At the end, you fight against both Edda and Avere, whose been brought back to life as an incredibly creepy Ahriman (http://i.imgur.com/UZ9T8T9.png). Upon defeat, Edda slowly backs away from you to the edge of the circular arena, which is covered in lit candles. One of them lights her robe on fire, and she falls off the edge while the flame spreads over her, a smile on her face the whole time.

After clearing the dungeon, you talk to the black mage outside whose lamenting that this all happened. He sees something out of the corner of his eye, and is freaked out and runs away.

(http://i.imgur.com/PChYChm.gif)
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Post by: Himu on July 16, 2014, 10:32:09 PM
Holy shit I have to play FFXIV haha
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Post by: Lucretius on July 16, 2014, 11:13:07 PM
The Hildibrand quests in FFXIV ARR are probably the funniest things I've ever seen in a FF game. And new ones keep coming with every major patch. If you're not going to play FFXIV then YouTube the Hildibrand cutscenes.
http://youtu.be/VbEan62z8RA

I really hope Hildebrand becomes a recurring character in future FF games kind if like Cid and Gilgamesh.

everything about this video is :what :what :what in the most japanese way possible

i'm not sure how i missed this video because it's clearly the greatest FF related thing i've seen in a while :rejoice

spoiler (click to show/hide)
why gilgamesh has a green chicken with him?
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spoiler (click to show/hide)
in the quest he says he couldn't find his companion Enkidu (usually depicted in the FF games as a giant green winged demon).  so Gilgamesh tells you that he bought a chicken and painted it green and called him Enkidu because he was lonely.
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Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Lucretius on July 16, 2014, 11:15:47 PM
Holy shit I have to play FFXIV haha

Yes, you do.  It's so good.  I'm on the Brynhildr server as Titus Lucretius.  Look me up if you ever decide to play.  It's so good.  I'm in a great Free Company (guild) that is super helpful to new players.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: nachobro on July 17, 2014, 12:36:24 AM
XIV is a great game! My favorite MMO out there and the best FF game in a while.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Lucretius on July 17, 2014, 01:24:46 AM
XIV is a great game! My favorite MMO out there and the best FF game in a while.

what he said.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: demi on July 17, 2014, 10:18:08 AM
If it was so great, maybe they should release a single player version instead.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Lucretius on July 17, 2014, 12:08:36 PM
You can solo the whole main story. Just use Duty Finder for the dungeon and the game will automatically put you in a team which will disband after you beat the dungeon boss. And you can easily play through the main story on under a month.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Damian79 on July 17, 2014, 12:25:58 PM
I found FFXIV boring and bland.  Even Korean MMO's with their broken controls are more interesting to me.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: magus on July 17, 2014, 01:33:39 PM
https://ffrk.jp/

(http://i.imgur.com/rr9sDtX.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/O8aO9jw.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/vkYJZKa.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ddMwV2z.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Vl3qZ575oP4/U5h2B3WHPqI/AAAAAAAAOcQ/_NOOxgF8CbU/s1600/tumblr_mujtpewGFa1s7tqseo1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Positive Touch on July 17, 2014, 04:00:42 PM
o no guys a cellphone game this is horrible do you think squaresoft will ever make another real final fantasy game i dont
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on July 17, 2014, 05:07:55 PM
:hyper omg :hyper :gladbron

2d Rinoa!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Takao on July 17, 2014, 05:09:41 PM
might as well just merge this thread with the phone gaming one
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on July 17, 2014, 06:55:09 PM
2d Rinoa! :uguu
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: tiesto on July 17, 2014, 07:19:40 PM
heroes obsessed with poking animals in the ass

Wait, what FF was this again?
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: magus on July 17, 2014, 08:03:35 PM
again magoose, that's not a square-enix developed thing, it's just another product of their licensing of the ff brand to Mobage.

don't care, too busy dancing on final fantasy grave

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkHmETqGQkc

"i'm a mag-mag-magoose man
doing only what a magoose can
from the grave of final fan
mag-mag-magoose man"
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on July 17, 2014, 08:23:01 PM
Why can't you appreciate the small things in life like 2d Rinoa?!

Rinoa :heartbeat
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on July 17, 2014, 08:30:14 PM
I've put atb out of my mind and haven't played the other one yet
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: magus on July 17, 2014, 08:38:10 PM
I've put atb out of my mind and haven't played the other one yet

the other one doesn't have an american version because square-enix has decided to bring only the bad final fantasy mobile game to spite final fantasy fans

spoiler (click to show/hide)
i guess pictologica is also pretty bad? oscar? you own a japanese cellphone! you should know!
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Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Rahxephon91 on July 17, 2014, 09:25:50 PM
I don't know about it being a great game, but 14 is alright. I wouldn't call it bland. Well the missions are pretty bland. Almost the definition of MMO blandness. The game is also an extreme grind.

But it has certain charms. While the quests scenario's are pretty weak, the story is pretty solid and at times feels like an actual FF game. While the actual character progression is really linear it is fun to switch jobs and roles. The synergy between jobs in parties also works really well. Dungeons themselves are really fun. I'd say they are pretty well designed. Compared to WoW(I've only played TOR, GW2, and years of WoW) the dungeons are pretty well paced. Not too long and not filled with too much trash. The bosses though are where the game really shines. After say the first two dungeons they become a bit more than tank and spank, having a bit more going on. They just feel like very lively boss battles. Doesn't hurt that they can look pretty awesome.

The game's got pretty strong art design in general. Strong writing that may make you care about the quests a bit. Cool boss battles and nice party mechanics. It's a pretty typical mmo gamewise, but the stylings may go far for some people.

My character:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/Rahxephon91/ffxiv_07172014_200810_zpsc06b5568.png
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/Rahxephon91/ffxiv_07172014_200818_zps16d5a10b.png
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/Rahxephon91/ffxiv_07172014_200840_zps98f7b930.png
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/Rahxephon91/ffxiv_07172014_201114_zpsa8aa4d30.png

This is my 2nd go around with the game as well.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: ZephyrFate on July 17, 2014, 09:52:38 PM
:hyper omg :hyper :gladbron

2d Rinoa!!!!!!!!!!!
you missed a lot of 2D everything by not playing All The Bravest.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: nachobro on July 17, 2014, 09:59:07 PM
The grind in 14 is seriously distinguished mentally-challenged. I'm working on my second 50 job and with no quests to do it kinda sucks.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on July 17, 2014, 10:04:06 PM
why would i play all the bravest tho
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Positive Touch on July 17, 2014, 10:32:44 PM
atb sucks complete ass, even as a ftp. not even good for a nostalgia treadmill
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: SpeedStats on July 18, 2014, 12:31:55 AM
Yeah, Pictlogica was a really easy version of Picross.  Super-boring, and not worth it.  I didn't even progress far in it, and I ended up beating All the Bravest of all things (but didn't get the collectibles because I can put that time towards other things). 

ATB has flavour-text and character/enemy sprites, but that's pretty much it.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: larrydavid on July 18, 2014, 12:39:19 PM
ATB is the nicest looking nicest sounding screensaver I've got on iOS. I don't get why they actively put in effort to make the FF ports look so much worse when ATB was sitting right there as the model for how to do 2D right.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: demi on July 18, 2014, 01:01:19 PM
So what is Record Keeper? ATB2? Dunno why yall crying. Theres PLENTY OF SQUARE ENIX GAMES THAT ARENT FREE TO PLAY CRAP available.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on July 18, 2014, 01:02:00 PM
The only person crying is magus.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Raban on July 18, 2014, 01:07:24 PM
I've been craving some FF8 lately so I had my friend mail me my PSP. Been listening to the soundtrack in hot anticipation :hyper GFs :rejoice Junctioning :lawd Squall :heartbeat
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: demi on July 18, 2014, 01:08:19 PM
After watching some speedrun strats for FF8, it almost makes the game playable for me. I would like to try again and use the strats sometime
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Raban on July 18, 2014, 01:11:50 PM
What kinda strats? Got a video link?
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: magus on July 18, 2014, 01:13:35 PM
The only person crying is magus.

nah, i honestly don't care, i just like playing the doomsayer :lol

"HEAR YE, HEAR YE! FINAL FANTASY IS DEED!"

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So what is Record Keeper? ATB2? Dunno why yall crying. Theres PLENTY OF SQUARE ENIX GAMES THAT ARENT FREE TO PLAY CRAP available.

http://www.siliconera.com/2014/07/17/final-fantasys-greatest-battles-remixed-final-fantasy-record-keeper/

i'm not sure on the plenty of square-enix games that aren't crap bits though :kobeyuck

in other news...

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Square Enix sends cease and desist letter to Final Fantasy Type-0 translation group

Type-0 translation patch unavailable?

You know I normally use blog posts for relevant information only, such as project announcements or releases. However, I’m sorry this time it’ll be a little bit different:

Unfortunately I’m forced to remove my posts and pages related to the popular Final Fantasy Type-0 fan translation project. That’s right, certain game company thinks that threats and false accusations are the way to treat its biggest fans. For the time being I can’t answer questions related to this matter, but I’ll write a more comprehensive post about all this once I get the chance.

I hope you understand, and as always I appreciate your support (that I might need more that ever in the near future). Thank you very much:

~Sky

is there a reason for doing this at this point? anybody that cared has already played the game and the fantranslation has already reached the web, at this point i'm not sure they have anything to gain from this other than bad PR
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: demi on July 18, 2014, 01:14:39 PM
Well you're a jaded shitcase sometimes, magus. The library available on iOS is plenty fine.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: demi on July 18, 2014, 01:18:19 PM
What kinda strats? Got a video link?

Refine Fish Fin for Water -> Junction for good stats

Get zell card from zell's mom -> Refine to STR+60%

Get Quistis Card from cafeteria bitch after Exam -> Refine to 3 Samantha Soul -> 3 x 60 Triples = Junction that shit
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: magus on July 18, 2014, 01:23:56 PM
Well you're a jaded shitcase sometimes, magus.

sometimes? :lol

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The library available on iOS is plenty fine.

well the library on android kinda sucks

https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=SQUARE%20ENIX%20Co.%2CLtd.&hl=it

is there any ios square-enix game that isn't on android too? i guess that dragon rider game i seems to remember reading about forever ago? heck was that even a square-enix game?
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on July 18, 2014, 01:25:01 PM
Ah.

Demi has been introduced to breaking FF8.

You can buy some tents at Balamb, turn those into curagas, put on your health, and bam. Do this within two hours of play too.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: demi on July 18, 2014, 01:26:06 PM
I dont see Secret of Mana listed there or Tactics
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on July 18, 2014, 01:42:58 PM
Tips for Raban:

To draw more magic at maximum number more regularly, equip to good magic to your magic stat. The higher the magic stat, the more you draw per turn. You'll be filling up on magic in just minutes that way.

If you are not big on drawing, you can turn items into magic, or cards into items and into magic. You can break the game within twenty minutes by just having quetz and shiva set to learn ice-mg-refine and thunder-mg-rf. rf means refine. After you beat Ifrit, you'll more than likely have learned those skills. Then to to the beach, fight the fish, get fish fins which you use ice-mag-rf to turn into water. When you get Siren, learn her refine skill and buy every day shit like tents and turn those into curagas or making Double magic from some loot drops.

You could have a Card low level play through where you card enemies and and stay low level. And then challenge fuckers to triple triad every town and build an ultimate deck.

You could play it like it a traditional rpg, leveling up along the way. It'll make things more interesting, for sure. But you need to keep your junctions up.

Lots of options. Easy to break, but easy to do a normal play through.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on July 18, 2014, 01:47:39 PM
One of my fave things to do in ff8 is to do a normal play through. No breaking. While giving each character a defined class role. Gosh I haven't played that game in years. I'll have to play it after V.

Gosh I wish SE would release a revamped FF8. I have all these ideas on how they could perfect the gameplay. :noah FFX-2 ATB. :noah Make items more expensive so the game isn't as breakable. :noah Buy basic magic in shops so you don't have to draw. :noah A class system that blocks what you can and can't junction :noah Each character comes with their own unique ability ala FFVI. :noah FFX international-esque rebalancing. :lawd Limit breaks aren't as easily obtainable. :bow

Positive Touch you and I need to come up with ideas to make a PC mod for ultimate FF8. :lawd
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: ZephyrFate on July 18, 2014, 02:30:15 PM
Step missing: Make the plot less absolute dumpster fire dog shit garbage.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on July 18, 2014, 02:35:13 PM
:yeshrug

Don't care.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: ZephyrFate on July 18, 2014, 02:56:46 PM
ok
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: nachobro on July 18, 2014, 03:14:00 PM
oo xiv is free this weekend. guess that gives me something to do :D
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Positive Touch on July 18, 2014, 04:57:05 PM
One of my fave things to do in ff8 is to do a normal play through. No breaking. While giving each character a defined class role. Gosh I haven't played that game in years. I'll have to play it after V.

Gosh I wish SE would release a revamped FF8. I have all these ideas on how they could perfect the gameplay. :noah FFX-2 ATB. :noah Make items more expensive so the game isn't as breakable. :noah Buy basic magic in shops so you don't have to draw. :noah A class system that blocks what you can and can't junction :noah Each character comes with their own unique ability ala FFVI. :noah FFX international-esque rebalancing. :lawd Limit breaks aren't as easily obtainable. :bow

Positive Touch you and I need to come up with ideas to make a PC mod for ultimate FF8. :lawd

all those ideas sound great! i never thought much about what i'd want in a revamped game because 1)the game as it is is pretty varied, and 2)any remake would strip out a lot of what i like because thats what most people hate.

i just want better balancing (less hp but more atk for the enemies; no xp bonus for who gets the last kill, limits on using super abilities like revive), and a better distribution of rules for the cards.

i know zephyr was trolling, but honestly i think the worldbuilding is really weak in the game. i'd love to see more towns and dungeons included, but this's about as likely to get remade as the adventures of huck finn is
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Positive Touch on July 18, 2014, 05:01:19 PM
The reason (and what they gain) is to assert their control of the property.  That's typically not necessary for fan translations but I guess they felt otherwise here.

i of course love fan translations, but it's stupidly naive of translators to think they're doing the company a favor. "hey look, now all the fans can play this game thanks to my hard work!" no, you just made a company's product available for free; they don't really appreciate that. fans don't help a company's bottom line; consumers do.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on July 18, 2014, 05:38:34 PM
One of my fave things to do in ff8 is to do a normal play through. No breaking. While giving each character a defined class role. Gosh I haven't played that game in years. I'll have to play it after V.

Gosh I wish SE would release a revamped FF8. I have all these ideas on how they could perfect the gameplay. :noah FFX-2 ATB. :noah Make items more expensive so the game isn't as breakable. :noah Buy basic magic in shops so you don't have to draw. :noah A class system that blocks what you can and can't junction :noah Each character comes with their own unique ability ala FFVI. :noah FFX international-esque rebalancing. :lawd Limit breaks aren't as easily obtainable. :bow

Positive Touch you and I need to come up with ideas to make a PC mod for ultimate FF8. :lawd

all those ideas sound great! i never thought much about what i'd want in a revamped game because 1)the game as it is is pretty varied, and 2)any remake would strip out a lot of what i like because thats what most people hate.

i just want better balancing (less hp but more atk for the enemies; no xp bonus for who gets the last kill, limits on using super abilities like revive), and a better distribution of rules for the cards.

i know zephyr was trolling, but honestly i think the worldbuilding is really weak in the game. i'd love to see more towns and dungeons included, but this's about as likely to get remade as the adventures of huck finn is

I thought FF8 has some of the best world building in the series. Game has hundreds of years of in universe history tucked in it.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: ZephyrFate on July 18, 2014, 06:14:28 PM
One of my fave things to do in ff8 is to do a normal play through. No breaking. While giving each character a defined class role. Gosh I haven't played that game in years. I'll have to play it after V.

Gosh I wish SE would release a revamped FF8. I have all these ideas on how they could perfect the gameplay. :noah FFX-2 ATB. :noah Make items more expensive so the game isn't as breakable. :noah Buy basic magic in shops so you don't have to draw. :noah A class system that blocks what you can and can't junction :noah Each character comes with their own unique ability ala FFVI. :noah FFX international-esque rebalancing. :lawd Limit breaks aren't as easily obtainable. :bow

Positive Touch you and I need to come up with ideas to make a PC mod for ultimate FF8. :lawd

all those ideas sound great! i never thought much about what i'd want in a revamped game because 1)the game as it is is pretty varied, and 2)any remake would strip out a lot of what i like because thats what most people hate.

i just want better balancing (less hp but more atk for the enemies; no xp bonus for who gets the last kill, limits on using super abilities like revive), and a better distribution of rules for the cards.

i know zephyr was trolling, but honestly i think the worldbuilding is really weak in the game. i'd love to see more towns and dungeons included, but this's about as likely to get remade as the adventures of huck finn is

I thought FF8 has some of the best world building in the series. Game has hundreds of years of in universe history tucked in it.
In FFXIII-esque datalogs and, like FFXIII, is a world with no fucking cohesion at all. Trabia, Esthar, and Shumi Village might as well be from a totally different game.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on July 18, 2014, 06:16:30 PM
Naw, they were also in the game, unlike FF13. But I'm not interested in arguing about a game from 1999.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Rahxephon91 on July 18, 2014, 06:31:31 PM
God I hate Esthar and pretty much the 3rd and 4th disc of 8. Yes, a lack of world cohesion was my problem. I was liking the strange 1940s kind modern world they had going on, but then Esthar. Then again I guess Garden is also very sci-fi as well so I guess I was wrong anyway.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: ZephyrFate on July 18, 2014, 06:44:13 PM
God I hate Esthar and pretty much the 3rd and 4th disc of 8. Yes, a lack of world cohesion was my problem. I was liking the strange 1940s kind modern world they had going on, but then Esthar. Then again I guess Garden is also very sci-fi as well so I guess I was wrong anyway.
Everything after Disc 1 of FF8 is not worth playing.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: magus on July 18, 2014, 06:44:50 PM
FF8 has a lot of cool action sequence like the bits where they assault dollet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxOsYhSrYcU

or the one where the gardens fights each other

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3yngLPkA2U

and you guys are all like "world building" like a bunch of little sissies

Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Positive Touch on July 18, 2014, 06:54:13 PM
theres only two major cities and one is isolated and invisible; the rest of the world is ruins and some bumpkin towns. and yet the plot involves one major city trying to take over the world, and three giant military schools for training mercenaries. just feels... imbalanced.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on July 18, 2014, 07:32:21 PM
Magus, I've always praised FF8 for its story pacing and action set-pieces. Besides the ones you brought up, you got an assassination attempt, bombing a missile base, trying to kidnap a president of a warring nation, even the prison escape kicks ass.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on July 18, 2014, 07:38:25 PM
theres only two major cities and one is isolated and invisible; the rest of the world is ruins and some bumpkin towns. and yet the plot involves one major city trying to take over the world, and three giant military schools for training mercenaries. just feels... imbalanced.

Not true. Major cities: Timber, Deling, Dolllet, Esther, FH. The only bumpkin town is Winhill. You could say Balamb, but it's more like a small school/port town. I've always felt the world was pretty connected. Most of the cities have their own means of sustenance and trade. timber has a huge architecture for technology and entertainment. It houses a major tv station as well as train stations that act as a connect to fishermans horizon. Balamb has fishing, Winhill has farming and local trade. Even Dollet has a sense of place. I feel like what you're talking about is a limitation of the hardware. Because FFVII and IX are probably even more isolated. In FFVIII most of the towns have a reason for being as they connect to the larger world.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on July 18, 2014, 07:48:32 PM
Sh-shut up :stahp
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 18, 2014, 07:53:23 PM
Found a place that had a lot of GBA games for $3.99 and I thought I saw FFVI for a second, but it was FFIV. :dead

Still bought it and FFTA tho, cuz $3.99.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Positive Touch on July 18, 2014, 08:03:13 PM
theres only two major cities and one is isolated and invisible; the rest of the world is ruins and some bumpkin towns. and yet the plot involves one major city trying to take over the world, and three giant military schools for training mercenaries. just feels... imbalanced.

Not true. Major cities: Timber, Deling, Dolllet, Esther, FH. The only bumpkin town is Winhill. You could say Balamb, but it's more like a small school/port town. I've always felt the world was pretty connected. Most of the cities have their own means of sustenance and trade. timber has a huge architecture for technology and entertainment. It houses a major tv station as well as train stations that act as a connect to fishermans horizon. Balamb has fishing, Winhill has farming and local trade. Even Dollet has a sense of place. I feel like what you're talking about is a limitation of the hardware. Because FFVII and IX are probably even more isolated. In FFVIII most of the towns have a reason for being as they connect to the larger world.

but then theres three huge campuses for training mercenaries. one of which is used by the city that already has the only standing army (galbadia), one that exists because TIME LOOP (balamb), and one in the middle of fucking nowhere. felt like there should be a lot more conflict than they showed. but i do understand it because there was a limit on what they can show/focus on.

fuck i love sperging out :aah


FFTA

 :holeup
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: ZephyrFate on July 18, 2014, 10:33:13 PM
FF8 is the equivalent of Transformers 4 if we're talking solely about its plot. The fact that the gameplay is so easily breakable means that all you're left with is that. So "..." for the next 30 hours.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on July 19, 2014, 12:05:37 AM
People say that and yet nobody was breaking the game like that when the game first came out for being so breakable.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: ZephyrFate on July 19, 2014, 12:19:38 AM
People say that and yet nobody was breaking the game like that when the game first came out for being so breakable.
Two minutes of Triple Triad made everyone who played FF8 in 1999 find ways to break it. I'm pretty sure GameFAQs was around in some form then, too.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 19, 2014, 12:40:01 AM
I dunno, people were breaking it, just in incredibly unenjoyable ways. 

summon gf

summon gf

summon gf again

Basically how I beat the game in 1999. Not very fun. :(
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: SpeedStats on July 19, 2014, 01:49:37 AM
Man, I can't stand using the GFs in FF8, though.  Same problem as FF7 and FF9: shit takes too long and I can max out damage by junctioning shit and attacking faster physically anyway.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Rahxephon91 on July 19, 2014, 03:26:49 AM
Playing FFXII while I wait in dungeon ques in FFXIV. I'm a loser.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on July 19, 2014, 03:33:30 AM
Playing FFXII while I wait in dungeon ques in FFXIV. I'm a loser.

i'd date you
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Positive Touch on July 19, 2014, 10:06:54 AM
o noes you can break the game if you go on the internet and read all the super strategies

hey did you guys know if you get the cape in mario world you can just fly over all the level who built this piece of shit i mean really
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on July 19, 2014, 11:12:49 AM
:lol

Never mind most FF's can be broken in half without any effort anyways.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: magus on July 19, 2014, 11:20:14 AM
FF8 has that really stupid system where the enemy level up with you BUT are always weaker than you

so i ask the jury, can you break something that is already broken in the first place? :jawalrus
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on July 19, 2014, 11:31:04 AM
Actually, level 100 ultimecia and certain level monsters on island closest to heaven/hell will wreck you if you don't have the stats to back it up :stahp

I boot up my original save file and I've got one on disc 3. Squall is like level 90, everyone else 50. The stats are shit and most enemies on the island one shot me. I'm going to turn that file around some day and kick its ass.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: ZephyrFate on July 19, 2014, 04:06:07 PM
o noes you can break the game if you go on the internet and read all the super strategies

hey did you guys know if you get the cape in mario world you can just fly over all the level who built this piece of shit i mean really
yes this was a quality rebuttal. clap clap
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: demi on July 19, 2014, 04:24:20 PM
If FF8 is so good, why does nobody want to buy my two copies on CL (http://toledo.craigslist.org/vgm/4541373432.html)?

Owned
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: ZephyrFate on July 19, 2014, 07:52:02 PM
 :dead :dead :dead
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on July 19, 2014, 07:59:52 PM
:lol
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 19, 2014, 08:41:04 PM
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Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Positive Touch on July 19, 2014, 09:47:23 PM
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Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on July 19, 2014, 10:52:24 PM
Refraining from using a couple of game-breaking moves or strategies is one thing, having to impose and keep track of a bunch of your own complex rules to make it fun and challenging just makes me wonder why the developers aren't paying me, since apparently I'm supposed to design their game for them.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on July 19, 2014, 10:57:21 PM
Refraining from using a couple of game-breaking moves or strategies is one thing, having to impose and keep track of a bunch of your own complex rules to make it fun and challenging just makes me wonder why the developers aren't paying me, since apparently I'm supposed to design their game for them.

It's not like you have to impose rules. But when you play a game enough times those rules make the game more fun because you've played it any other way. It's kind like saying, in Dark Souls you could easily just learn magic and beast your way through. Or you could just go the normal melee route. But for someone who has played it a bunch, they may want to play it in a different manner, like playing the whole game without any armor or with the crappy broken sword you get at the beginning . The final fantasy v four job fiesta in itself is one such limitation. Almost every game has something like this and is popular among that games fan base. FFX has no sphere grid challenges. FFIX has low level speed run challenges to get Excalibur.

What's the difference between those and carding your way through ff8? I'm not seeing a single one. And your criticism sounds like it comes from someone who doesn't replay games much.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: ZephyrFate on July 19, 2014, 11:48:49 PM
Carding your way through FF8 takes, at most, 30 minutes of actual card playing over the entire game. The other challenges you're listing make the game take much longer, or in the opposite direction, make the game harder since you're speedrunning it (Excalibur II run).

Hell, you don't even have to actually card any enemies. Once you get Diablos you can basically rubber band X and breeze through the game.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Raban on July 20, 2014, 12:02:47 AM
it'd be nice if they just rereleased ff8 with shorter gf animations and a ff button like ff12
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: SpeedStats on July 20, 2014, 12:11:22 AM
Well, they do have a fast-forward mode (http://eu.square-enix.com/en/blog/final-fantasy-viii-now-updated-new-features) listed in the FF8 PC perks.  Someone I know is trying to do an FF8 remastered soundtrack mod for the PC version, and his previous work has been really really good so I'm looking forward to it if he does progress with it.

Because the FF8 PC soundtrack sounds like poop.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on July 20, 2014, 12:11:52 AM
Personally my fantasy version would be a PS2-level remake (like Resident Evil GC) with an FFX-like system where summons had different attacks, etc., instead of just the same long animation every time.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Raban on July 20, 2014, 12:15:30 AM
you wanna make the summons longer!? madness.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on July 20, 2014, 12:15:46 AM
Carding your way through FF8 takes, at most, 30 minutes of actual card playing over the entire game. The other challenges you're listing make the game take much longer, or in the opposite direction, make the game harder since you're speedrunning it (Excalibur II run).

Hell, you don't even have to actually card any enemies. Once you get Diablos you can basically rubber band X and breeze through the game.

No, a low level card run the whole point is to stay low level. The challenge in that is to stay low level via carding. If you are leveling up, you aren't doing the challenge right. Card playing doesn't factor into it at all. Honestly, your criticism towards FF8 being too easy is silly, given your favorite FF is 9. I beat 9 at release without dying once.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on July 20, 2014, 12:22:01 AM
I mean, if you're going to throw stones through glass houses, at least have the sense to not stan Final Fantasy IX, a game that doesn't need to be broken open to be easy as shit, because the core mechanics (especially with Vivi in the party) are already broken as it is.

FFIX is broke is fuck. FFVIII is broke as fuck. FFVII is broke is fuck. FFX is broke as fuck. FFVI is broke as fuck. FFV is broke as fuck. FFIV? It's not that particularly challenging. FFIII nes has so many fucking exploits it's hilarious. In X-2, I equipped cat nip and trigger happy'd the last boss and killed him in ten seconds.

Final Fantasy fans complaining about broken game mechanics is like a Metal Gear Solid fan complaining about jank. Completely nonsensical and fucking distinguished mentally-challenged.

So far, the only non-broken FF's I can think of are FF1, FFX International, FFXII if you're not a special fellow, and FFXIII.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: ZephyrFate on July 20, 2014, 12:30:47 AM
FFIX is not "broke as fuck." It's actually quite balanced. You can only steal one equipment tier above you at a time, and the hardest steals can be bought in shops not long after. Many abilities are gated for quite a while before they become worthwhile, and levelling isn't particularly useful after a certain point unless you equip items to make sure you get correct stat gains per level. It's not an "easy" game, it's actually a suitably difficult game that isn't too hard or too simple. There are more than a few difficult bosses, but there's no way to "break" the game even if you played Chocobo H&C to death.

FF8, however, IS broke as fuck. A low level carding-only run is simple. Diablos ---> Enc-None. Bam, you're done. Go play some Triple Triad. Rubber band X. Play that absolute dumpster fire of a game for some ungodly reason.

If you're gonna slam FF9, at least look like you know what the fuck you're talking about
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: ZephyrFate on July 20, 2014, 12:32:15 AM
and, for the record, most people don't realize how useful Vivi + Reflectx4 is, because most people stop using him after tankier characters become available.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: demi on July 20, 2014, 12:45:15 AM
hype ff7 run at carnage64 stream right now. great RNG going his way, mostly
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on July 20, 2014, 12:59:36 AM
Yeah, I enjoyed fighting Kuja with Reflect-based tactics. I actually thought the much-hated delay between action selection and execution made this sort of thing more interesting, since it forced you to think ahead a bit. Overall FFIX felt about on par with FF4/5 in terms of balance: not difficult, but not so far out of whack that the lack of challenge takes you out of the game, which was how I felt about the other PS1 games (mostly due to the abundance of MP-restoring items and everyone getting healing magic).
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 21, 2014, 11:47:55 PM
Simpin' ain't easy.

(http://i.imgur.com/lmsQbQK.jpg?2)

(http://i.imgur.com/wn1wLQN.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 21, 2014, 11:51:14 PM
Simpin' ain't easy, demi edition.

(http://i.imgur.com/Aqbmsfc.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: ZephyrFate on July 22, 2014, 12:45:52 AM
only fairy homos call her Aerith.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 22, 2014, 01:37:07 AM
only fairy homos call her Aerith.

 :supergay
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 22, 2014, 01:41:33 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/nMIMwaJ.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/w28LS0b.jpg)

But that's none of my business tho. (http://i.imgur.com/Zr4t8ol.png)
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on July 22, 2014, 03:09:47 AM
I ain't interested in a buncha scrubs like you
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on July 22, 2014, 04:10:24 AM
only fairy homos call her Aerith.

Or because SE calls her aerith in all modern media or you're too damn used to it now
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Lucretius on July 23, 2014, 09:24:02 AM
Greetings from Eorzea

(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--fxOYBlJg--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/oqqt8w1gtwwxkugnu0dd.png)

(http://33.media.tumblr.com/30abab97ed376c5ed7b6e33c0ffd53f8/tumblr_n8r9spWEiE1te4jqio1_500.png)
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 23, 2014, 11:39:21 AM
Alright, now I'm ready to eat, brehs.

(http://i.imgur.com/SSQzbZh.jpg?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/L6Z6V1n.png)
(Didn't get any coins for it, tho.  :'( )

Before I get started, here's the sum total of what I know about FF6:
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: magus on July 23, 2014, 11:45:20 AM
sounds like you already know all of the important bits

oh in all seriousness there is something important you should know, i'm putting it on spoiler before some jerk lime himumu gets all "dude you shouldn't have told him!" on me

spoiler (click to show/hide)
this game has a missable character, i missed it the first time and it made me pretty angry at the time so if you don't want to get fucked like me, check the spoiler

spoiler (click to show/hide)
at a certain point of the game your character will do a big escape from something, one of the character will fall behind and the game gives you the option to wait for him or not, if you don't wait for him he's lost forever
[close]
[close]
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: SpeedStats on July 23, 2014, 01:05:31 PM
Also know that when you level up the only stats that level with you are HP/MP. Before you get summons, it's probably best to low-level if you want to max/min stats.  When you do get summons, you can equip them to level up stats on a character level up.  So if you wanted to make someone mostly magic or mostly strength or amp up their agility stat, that's how you do it.

But FF6 is super-easy so I guess you probably shouldn't bother with max/min stats because it really really doesn't matter in the long run a lot of the time.  A lot of people equip summons to learn magic instead.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: demi on July 23, 2014, 01:33:32 PM
FF6: why_cant_i_hold_all_these_characters?.jpg
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: ZephyrFate on July 23, 2014, 01:34:01 PM
only fairy homos call her Aerith.

Or because SE calls her aerith in all modern media or you're too damn used to it now
nah I call her Aeris. Superior Original American translation ftw.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: SpeedStats on July 23, 2014, 06:57:33 PM
FF7 American localization text gems.

(http://i.imgur.com/YL7G443.jpg)
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: ZephyrFate on July 23, 2014, 07:32:44 PM
Superior. @#$^^$^@#%@!
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 23, 2014, 11:34:40 PM
White Mage Chocobo's cuteness is 2 stronk.  :-[

(http://i.imgur.com/Uddutl0.jpg)
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 24, 2014, 04:18:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ_-JjuiFaU

spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdFqI13sl0I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNfxzi3j0xk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peVTBZt3TFc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AEaUtdEb-k
[close]

:rock
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Positive Touch on July 24, 2014, 04:33:27 PM
stop playing with my emotions like this joe
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 24, 2014, 06:55:05 PM
I'm playing FF6 too...some. I'm gonna try to finish Chocobuu~ this weekend, tho. :lawd
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 24, 2014, 06:56:38 PM
Then I'm gonna order some plushes.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: demi on July 25, 2014, 08:01:31 AM
FF7 American localization text gems.

(http://i.imgur.com/YL7G443.jpg)


Why do people celebrate this character in FFVII? He's a WIFE BEATER. He's a CRETIN. A foul shell of a man who's probably impotent. Yeah sure, he cusses a lot but he's a WIFE BEATER. The only cool wife beater is mupepe and he's not in a game.

Fuck that noise! (http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=5612.0)
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: magus on July 25, 2014, 08:41:04 AM

Why do people celebrate this character in FFVII? He's a WIFE BEATER. He's a CRETIN. A foul shell of a man who's probably impotent. Yeah sure, he cusses a lot but he's a WIFE BEATER. The only cool wife beater is mupepe and he's not in a game.

Fuck that noise! (http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=5612.0)

celebrating 17 years of rape culture :hitler
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 27, 2014, 09:24:34 PM
Final Fantasy Fables: Chocobo's Dungeon
Chokobo no Fushigi na Danjon Toki Wasure no Meikyu
Original Release: December 13, 2007
Edition Played: Wii (Wii U)
Time to Beat: 20 hours
Date Completed: July 27, 2014
Score:  Kweh!/Kweh!

(http://i.imgur.com/TblEsfH.jpg)

Chocobo's Dungeon is a babby roguelike, but it's cute and it's fun. The main dungeons you could breeze through as long as you fought most of the enemies and kept your gear current. I only died two of three times, and you only lose your money and non-equipped items when you die. There are some bonus challenge dungeons that are a bit harder because they don't let you take items in with you, and they cap your level and sometimes put status effects on you, but you could get through those pretty easy with a little trial and error. There are a few post-game dungeons left that I haven't done, but I'll probably just pass on those.

The plot was super-animu, with some Final Feggotry emo-ness and a dash of Star Wars Prequel Trilogy thrown in, where the baby that you save at the first of the game turns out to be the Big Bad of the game (or at least was being controlled by the Big Bad).

(Sample of the Voice Acting and Dialogue, lawl)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMHV07sN3-E
:uguu
I'm kinda impressed through that it's nearly entirely voiced (although that could be bad depending on your point of view).

Now it's time to move on to Final Fantasy Fables: Chocobo Tales I mean Final Fantasy VI! (http://i.imgur.com/JPIzDM3.png)
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: demi on July 27, 2014, 09:29:51 PM
Fuck FF6, play Crystal Bearers now
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Positive Touch on July 27, 2014, 09:32:42 PM
:what stop leading this man astray
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 27, 2014, 09:36:44 PM
The fact that Crystal Bearers makes you use the waggle wand makes me not really want to play it (the fact that it's supposed to be terrible is a distant second).

My Life as a King supports Classic Controller, tho.  :hitler
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on July 27, 2014, 09:42:40 PM
On my replay of FF6 this year, I decided that WoB isn't nearly as good as WoR, and that the game is kinda on auto pilot until ways into WoR. Actually, WoB is pretty fucking boring in a gameplay sense. It just wasn't as fun as past playthroughs, and the customization/esper system is a fucking joke. Luckily the story and characters are able to prop the game up, but I think FF6 is probably about on par with FF4. FF5 is clearly the best of the snes trilogy.

SNES FF trilogy is still the best FF trilogy despite my criticisms though, but damn. May have to do another FF rank-fest after my replays this year.

FF12 > FF8 > FF10-2 > FF5 > FF10 International > FF9 > FF6 > FF4 > FF7 > FF1 > FF10 OG = FF13 >  FF3 > FF2

FF6 dropped a two places in my list. FF10 Int :bow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPVrAxTB4r4

:bow :bow :bow
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: demi on July 27, 2014, 10:36:36 PM
The fact that Crystal Bearers makes you use the waggle wand makes me not really want to play it (the fact that it's supposed to be terrible is a distant second).

My Life as a King supports Classic Controller, tho.  :hitler

FF6 is so bad. Just play Crystal Bearers. It has the word Bear.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Positive Touch on July 27, 2014, 10:58:53 PM
first half has better scenario variety than every other rpg before it

second half has a giant world filled with nonlinear questing

majestic game
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: ZephyrFate on July 27, 2014, 11:05:16 PM
Putting FF9 below FF8 is a crime against nature and the universe and doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on July 27, 2014, 11:11:58 PM
Putting FF9 below FF8 is a crime against nature and the universe and doesn't make sense.

There's only five responses to this.

1. You know it's my favorite.

2. You have known this for YEARS.

3. WHY ARE YOU SHOCKED

4. (http://25.media.tumblr.com/9613db68bc0509eb3697961da5c8640e/tumblr_n1f4ssBqWn1r0wlweo4_500.gif)

5. (http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbgefvvl1I1qke482o1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 27, 2014, 11:19:03 PM
Chicken-wuss :lol
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on July 27, 2014, 11:27:39 PM
Chicken-wuss :lol

:yeshrug (http://i.imgur.com/h2a21OV.png) :yeshrug
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: ZephyrFate on July 27, 2014, 11:42:04 PM
Putting FF9 below FF8 is a crime against nature and the universe and doesn't make sense.

There's only five responses to this.

1. You know it's my favorite.

2. You have known this for YEARS.

3. WHY ARE YOU SHOCKED

4. (http://25.media.tumblr.com/9613db68bc0509eb3697961da5c8640e/tumblr_n1f4ssBqWn1r0wlweo4_500.gif)

5. (http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbgefvvl1I1qke482o1_500.gif)
Because I am always amused by you stanning such an awful game.

Admittedly, for the time, the game had *awesome* mo-cap for their models.
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Post by: Himu on July 27, 2014, 11:47:45 PM
Because I am always amused by you stanning such an awful game.

Admittedly, for the time, the game had *awesome* mo-cap for their models.

Because

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv2_mLwSUiA

:rejoice
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Post by: SpeedStats on July 28, 2014, 12:01:34 AM
Holy shit, I forgot about FF8's animations.

That shit was the bomb back then.

Laguna was a stud.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57dEdOAyJ9I

leg cramps
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Post by: Himu on July 28, 2014, 12:05:29 AM
Holy shit, I forgot about FF8's animations.

That shit was the bomb back then.

Laguna was a stud.

:larry

(http://i.imgur.com/Kh63iLX.jpg)
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Post by: SpeedStats on July 28, 2014, 12:10:21 AM
(Sarcasm on my part).

I do genuinely like Laguna if only for comic relief since he manages to screw things up every single time.

(http://i.imgur.com/MfD0o2H.jpg)
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Post by: Himu on July 28, 2014, 12:21:21 AM
The part where they end the conversation and everyone is listening in. :lol
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Post by: recursivelyenumerable on July 28, 2014, 03:38:03 AM
Quote
On my replay of FF6 this year, I decided that WoB isn't nearly as good as WoR, and that the game is kinda on auto pilot until ways into WoR. Actually, WoB is pretty fucking boring in a gameplay sense.

Correct
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Post by: magus on July 28, 2014, 07:25:59 AM
there is another chocobo dungeon game on the psx but it doesn't feature any music remake or job system so to be honest, it's kind of bland... it also use pre-rendered graphics that kinda looks "eeeeehhhhh"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8x2sSP-khLQ

and that's actualy supposed to be a sequel, the original never left japan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSmryhHUUzg

oh and that wii game you just played? it has an enchanced DS version that comes with a few extra jobs and other stuff,though of course this too is japan only

(http://www.square-enix.co.jp/jf09/titles/tokiwasureds/img/image.jpg)


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Post by: Positive Touch on July 28, 2014, 08:53:26 AM
Quote
On my replay of FF6 this year, I decided that WoB isn't nearly as good as WoR, and that the game is kinda on auto pilot until ways into WoR. Actually, WoB is pretty fucking boring in a gameplay sense.

Correct

no goddammit you guys this is wrong
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Post by: demi on July 28, 2014, 08:55:38 AM
Lololol FF6
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Post by: Himu on July 28, 2014, 09:05:56 AM
Also, Kefka feels outdated. There were legit story moments ruined by him. The tone goes from dead serious to him some saying really, REALLY bad line that isn't funny anymore. At least in his WOB incarnation.
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Post by: demi on July 28, 2014, 09:16:48 AM
oh and that wii game you just played? it has an enchanced DS version that comes with a few extra jobs and other stuff,though of course this too is japan only

(http://www.square-enix.co.jp/jf09/titles/tokiwasureds/img/image.jpg)

There is a messy menu patch for this on GBATemp:

http://gbatemp.net/threads/cid-to-chocobo-no-fushigi-na-dungeon-twnmds-translation.231032/
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Post by: recursivelyenumerable on July 28, 2014, 10:04:01 AM
Original Chocobo's Dungeon on PS1 had a great Hamauzu soundtrack (his first full-length one).
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Post by: Joe Molotov on July 28, 2014, 11:26:04 AM
FF6 sounds pretty awful, I guess I should just skip it.

OTOH, My Life as a King has bikini DLC.  :leon
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Post by: demi on July 28, 2014, 11:31:49 AM
Mud sandwich
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Post by: Himu on July 28, 2014, 12:16:47 PM
Ff6 isn't awful. It's certainly better than 7.
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Post by: Himu on July 28, 2014, 12:23:21 PM
Keep in mind, these are mostly critiques of WoB. WOB still has  a lot of good story moments and stuff, but the gameplay part...well...it can be lacking. The second half is where the game truly morphs into a classic. Play it.
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Post by: magus on July 28, 2014, 12:25:30 PM
Ff6 isn't awful. It's certainly better than 7.

does it have any bikini though? sure it has umaro for people like demi but it's just not the same thing....
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Post by: Himu on July 28, 2014, 12:28:14 PM
Uhhhhhh
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Post by: Positive Touch on July 28, 2014, 04:31:25 PM
Ff6 isn't awful. It's certainly better than 7.

does it have any bikini though? sure it has umaro for people like demi but it's just not the same thing....


well it has relm for people like you!
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on July 28, 2014, 04:46:20 PM
I don't like WoR very much because the whole tileset for the game turns into 50 shades of caves: the game.

I mean, more so than WoB which was already like 25% caves.
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Post by: Positive Touch on July 28, 2014, 05:06:33 PM
caves are a very critical part of any 2D rpg's ecosystem, right up there with towers
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Post by: Joe Molotov on July 28, 2014, 05:10:14 PM
Does it have a fire temple?
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Post by: Himu on July 28, 2014, 05:11:15 PM
Does it have a fire temple?

It has multiple dungeons, and at least two with a fire theme.
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Post by: magus on July 28, 2014, 05:23:13 PM
Ff6 isn't awful. It's certainly better than 7.

does it have any bikini though? sure it has umaro for people like demi but it's just not the same thing....


well it has relm for people like you!

this game has a little girl and a giant octopus and nothing happens, if that isn't proof of ff6 not being good i don't know what it is

I don't like WoR very much because the whole tileset for the game turns into 50 shades of caves: the game.

I mean, more so than WoB which was already like 25% caves.

i don't like WoR much because it feels like filler, "GO CATCH 8 DRAGONS", "GO GET BACK ALL OF THE CHARACTERS YOU HAD" who gives a shit? you just gave me a relic that let me tetra attack the shit out of everything, i'm going to finish the game here right now

oh and the final dungeon is a chore, i used a 4 man party for the whole game but nooooooooooooooo, now you want me to use the whole cast, i usualy just brute force it through using mog charm because that too is a pain in the ass
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Post by: Himu on July 28, 2014, 05:24:43 PM
Ff6 isn't awful. It's certainly better than 7.

does it have any bikini though? sure it has umaro for people like demi but it's just not the same thing....


well it has relm for people like you!

gau
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on July 28, 2014, 05:27:34 PM
Does it have a fire temple?

Even better,

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Fire cave.
[close]
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Post by: Himu on July 28, 2014, 05:36:42 PM
Ff6 isn't awful. It's certainly better than 7.

does it have any bikini though? sure it has umaro for people like demi but it's just not the same thing....


well it has relm for people like you!

this game has a little girl and a giant octopus and nothing happens, if that isn't proof of ff6 not being good i don't know what it is

I don't like WoR very much because the whole tileset for the game turns into 50 shades of caves: the game.

I mean, more so than WoB which was already like 25% caves.

i don't like WoR much because it feels like filler, "GO CATCH 8 DRAGONS", "GO GET BACK ALL OF THE CHARACTERS YOU HAD" who gives a shit? you just gave me a relic that let me tetra attack the shit out of everything, i'm going to finish the game here right now

oh and the final dungeon is a chore, i used a 4 man party for the whole game but nooooooooooooooo, now you want me to use the whole cast, i usualy just brute force it through using mog charm because that too is a pain in the ass

1. There are at least three different times when the game has you operating three to four different parties. This is done deliberately because...

2. It should have taught you that you need to work on your multiple party members, especially given how often you split up throughout the story.

3. You didn't get all the characters.

4. Thus you work with a lot more and end up with a tedious final dungeon.

Typical Magus logic.

Magus, the FFVII gamer, folks.

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Post by: magus on July 28, 2014, 05:52:22 PM
But i did get all the character even the stupid one like umaro, the problem is that you will stick to a single party and teach them all of the cool stuff while the other will rot, there is no reason to use everybody, sure the game force your hand a few time during world of balance but it all happens before the magic system get introduced and you have no character that you focused your work on,you might say "just use them all!" but then it become a chore, especialy since the game has so many gimmick character like mog and gau...

it's simple a lot easier to make a 4 man party, disable the random encounter, and have a single party enter the 3 different entrance rather than using character i don't even want to look at! in fact since i can do exactly that, why did they even bother with this whole multiple party concept? if i want i can still do the dungeon with a single party, i just have to exit and re-enter the dungeon a few times so at the end of the day the problem is that it's a longass dungeons that come after already tons of things that feels like they've already stretched the game thin

but ehy you know what would make using multiple parties cool? if all the character leveled together, even the one you didn't use and they could freely trade the spell they learned...

LIKE IN FUCKING FF7
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Post by: Himu on July 28, 2014, 06:14:20 PM
You know what had a great final dungeon? I mean, aside from FF6? :smug

FF8!

Fucking strips you of everything. GFs, summons, abilities, stats, and you have to defeat bosses to get your stuff back.  And when you do get your stuff back, you go through a list and have to choose only one at a time. One of the greatest boss rushes in rpg history as well. Contains swaths of survival horror puzzle influences to make the final dungeon one large interconnected hub that you have to unlock via a split up party you switch to solve puzzles and find everything. A deeply atmospheric Resident Evil influenced, challenging showcase of creativity and choice. GOAT.

Plus, the music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsId-Dm3aK4

And the atmosphere.

(http://i.imgur.com/WTqaoPf.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/dfznIYt.gif)

(http://i.imgur.com/969BNq3.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/3sHU9i2.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/uBJiiXr.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/L1WOjh6.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/eTo1a4w.jpg)

UNF!!!

Only things that are even close for me are FFXII's Pharos and FFVI's.
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Post by: tiesto on July 28, 2014, 06:30:55 PM
FF8's final dungeon was definitely the high point of that game - I thought the 'sealing away your powers' was an awesome concept. But Pharos from XII? Ugh... so repetitive and long, the only positive was that it wasn't as bad as the giant crystal dungeon with the useless map.

My favorite final dungeon would probably be FF4's... actually the FF games generally have good final dungeons except for Memoria and Pharos (if you count that as a final dungeon).
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Post by: Himu on July 28, 2014, 06:33:13 PM
Pharos has a boss rush though! And you're forced to seal away your abilities! You actually have to choose your own handicap. :lawd

FF7, 10, and 13 have the worst FF final dungeons.
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Post by: Himu on July 28, 2014, 06:35:55 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ok3y3460Ho

:lawd

Pharos! :rejoice
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on July 28, 2014, 07:05:44 PM
What's wrong with the Northern Crater? I'll take it and Sin's insides any day over the Chaos Shrine, Crystal Tower, Lunar Subterrane or Orphan's Cradle. Academia 500AF can rot in hell.

Interdimensional Rift is cool though, that one can stay.
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Post by: tiesto on July 28, 2014, 07:10:27 PM
Oh yeah, Sin was fucking awful too... that part where the spikes come up from the ground was torturous. Academia 500 was bad too because of the platforming, but it looked gorgeous.

Crystal Tower is awesome save the lack of save points.
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Post by: Himu on July 28, 2014, 07:12:20 PM
Northern crater is a boring, linear fuck fest. It's got like 6 screens. It's probably worse than FF10's Inside Sin in its linear vapidity.

There are a few things that save it from being on par with FF13's awful final dungeon though.

1. Music :lawd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGHDXDI-DNc

Goodness gracious, Nobuo was on top of the world back then. It truly sounds like a march to the finale. The way the mako steam bursts from the crater on time to the beat of the music is genius. AAA level presentation and attention to detail.

2. Jenova Absolute.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yX4h8Agi7U

Again, Nobuo was firing all fucking cylinders and I'm pretty sure he made this while getting a blow job. It explains everything. The percussion is divine. The tamborurines are wow. You can just vision the summon battles and characters casting magic just listening to it.

3. "Let's mosey"

(http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/0/1481/2582957-0496234702-Lets-.jpg)
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Post by: Himu on July 28, 2014, 07:13:00 PM
Oh yeah, Sin was fucking awful too... that part where the spikes come up from the ground was torturous. Academia 500 was bad too because of the platforming, but it looked gorgeous.

Crystal Tower is awesome save the lack of save points.

The spikes are easy. Sin is bad because it's a fucking linear trek and has like three screens.
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Post by: Raban on July 28, 2014, 07:21:12 PM
god I miss prerendered backgrounds :fbm
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Post by: Himu on July 28, 2014, 07:33:39 PM
IMO:

Final dungeons should feel like its own adventure. They shouldn't feel like they're just there because the game needs a place to end (Northern crater, Sin, whatever the fuck 13's was). But they should be more than just symbolic and thematic set pieces (Memoria). A great final dungeon is a place of obstacles for our party to overcome. The last parade before the final battle. My ideal final dungeon makes the player think and do things they haven't done the entire game (switching the party up into like three different parties to even remotely access the dungeon in FF6, the puzzle solving and sealed abilities in FF8) that culminates in the games creativity and badassery and wicked boss rushes. If I'm fighting less than three bosses, you have failed. FAILED. If I can get through your final dungeon in like 15 minutes as seen in FF10's, withOUT even doing the end game grind - again, like in FF10 - you have utterly failed.

This should all be a rule, like with boss rush rooms before Wiley in Mega Man. :stahp
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on July 28, 2014, 07:38:02 PM
I get what you're saying, but I still prefer a short, linear trek over a dungeon that's actively annoying to clear. I'd say that makes them average dungeons rather than outright bad.

Meanwhile FF1's Chaos Shrine is a point of no return (with bosses that can easily nuke your party in a game with no resurrection items), FF3's CT has no saves all the way to the final boss and FF4's Lunar Subterrane has the most annoying random encounters in the whole game (Nehemoths, overlapping Red Dragons. Deathmasks and the Mind/Soul enemies come to mind). All the way to Academia 500AF which is what happens when you put a platforming-centric dungeon in an RPG with terrible platforming controls.

Crystal Tower is awesome save the lack of save points.

That's p much what kills it for me. I remember my first time doing it, I went through all of the tower, beat up Xande, took out all of the bosses in the World of Darkness, but couldn't quite beat Cloud of Darkness. Next thing I know I'm back in the entrance to the tower with all of my progress undone.

Fuck that noise.
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Post by: Himu on July 28, 2014, 07:40:40 PM
Chaos Shrine is pure delight. Fucking lights a :gun on your ass
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Post by: magus on July 28, 2014, 07:42:18 PM
I get what you're saying, but I still prefer a short, linear trek over a dungeon that's actively annoying to clear. I'd say that makes them average dungeons rather than outright bad.

yeah i prefer that too, most rpg are long and some of them drags and drags so the last thing i want it to do is drag it even more with a longass final dungeon, there have been time where i didn't finish an rpg simply because i tought the ending wasn't worth the annoyance of going through the final dungeon

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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on July 28, 2014, 07:48:06 PM
To be fair, its mostly the Lich and his god damn NUKEs out of nowhere that ruin 99% of my Chaos Shrine attempts when I replay FF1. I'd rather fight five Warmechs in a row.

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Post by: Himu on July 28, 2014, 07:49:03 PM
What version of FF1?

I hope to god you're not talking about the gba version. Dude you'd probably like that ones final dungeon.
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on July 28, 2014, 08:01:08 PM
NES version! That's the only one where Flare was renamed NUKE.  :lol

Only way to get out is using the Exit and Warp spells, but because the NES version uses spell charges instead of MP, it means its very possible to get stuck inside with no way to recovery. NES version doesn't have Phoenix Downs either, so if someone goes down they're down for good. Which makes Lich being able to one-shot any party member at any time with a single NUKE a pain the ass.
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Post by: Himu on July 28, 2014, 08:07:42 PM
Oh, you're right. I haven't played FF1 NES since 1999.

Try out FF1 psx?
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on July 28, 2014, 08:13:28 PM
I'll probably give that a whirl whenever I get around to replaying FF1. I have the GBA version too, but that one got dumbed down ever more and its way too easy. I think my Origins copy runs on PS3 with no issues...

FF2 will continue to be the one game in the series I haven't beaten because sometime inevitably happens to my game/save every time I make enough progress.  :-\
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Post by: Himu on July 28, 2014, 08:16:56 PM
I beat ff1 gba without dying. ps1 is the best version.
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Post by: ZephyrFate on July 28, 2014, 08:51:31 PM
I thought XIII's final dungeon was very aesthetically pleasing, but unfortunately like FF8's it suffers from "this has no thematic link to the rest of the game."

FFIX's is the best. Memoria has a fantastic theme, and the callbacks not only to the rest of the series but also to in-game history are awesome.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on July 28, 2014, 08:54:29 PM
I beat FF1 PSP without dying, PSP is the best version.
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Post by: Himu on July 28, 2014, 09:02:45 PM
Fuck 6 screen thematic story final dungeons.
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Post by: ZephyrFate on July 28, 2014, 09:52:20 PM
Fuck thematically inappropriate Castlevania dungeons with gimmick puzzles.
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Post by: Himu on July 28, 2014, 10:26:54 PM
It makes plenty of sense and it's 100% appropriate. Ultimecia has destroyed the future. She has complete control over her domain. She seals your powers. She summons GFs. She even seals your magic in battle. In order to fight her, you have to fight her minions and slowly gain means to challenge her realm piece by piece, ability by ability.

More than that, the architecture and design is incredibly consistent with the rest of the game. Final Fantasy VIII always had gothic-like inspirations.

Like large full moons, tall sweeping chapels with gargoyles.

(http://i.imgur.com/6rB8bOZ.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/3sHU9i2.jpg)

Gothic literature often paints a picture through weather, moons, and architecture. Hell, the games main character's name is Squall.

Theme and story final dungeons are fine. But nothing ever beats a final dungeon that feels like an obstacle and takes effort to see the end. I don't respect an rpg that ends its journey with a 3 screen final dungeon. More than that, in the case of final dungeons, gameplay will always trump story.

To be honest, you seem to be reallllly reaching here. Your problem is with that it's...inappropriate, or something, and not based on its quality. Not liking it because it takes too much effort, or you find it annoying, I can buy. But "it's inappropriate and doesn't fit the game" doesn't really make sense, considering these are games that take place in fantasy worlds with magic. But more than that, not only is FF8's final dungeon appropriate, it also services the story in that you lose abilities. Your blind FF8 seems to be consuming you of irrationality!
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Post by: Himu on July 28, 2014, 10:33:25 PM
To be honest, Zephyr almost always starts it, because he can't get over the idea that other people like different games than him. :yeshrug All I said was fuck small ass story-based dungeons. I didn't even name a title in particular. Hell, it doesn't even have to do with Final Fantasy. I hate them no matter the game.
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Post by: ZephyrFate on July 28, 2014, 10:41:12 PM
Anyone who bashes Memoria has a stupid opinion about final fantasy games.

Where in the hell is FF8 inspired by Gothic architecture? It's primarily steampunk with dashes of ultra sci-fi and then your usual esoteric FF stuff like Shumi Village. There is nowhere that Ultimecia's Castle thematically connects to. It's as out of place as much of the settings are in FF8.
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Post by: Himu on July 28, 2014, 10:53:19 PM
Worst rpg final dungeon? Hmmm.

Suikoden IV. What the fuck was THAT?

The most interesting case? The ever elusive "there is no final dungeon" or in some cases, the final dungeon is optional. See: Chrono Trigger, The World Ends With You, Fallout 3. Speaking of CT, I've never been a big fan of Black Omen. It's long, but it lacks any sense of cohesion or design merit. It's basically just a giant enemy after enemy rush. Fucking boring.

Anyone who bashes Memoria has a stupid opinion about final fantasy games.

I didn't bash Memoria. I didn't even bring up Memoria. Memoria is above average to me. I said my least fave FF final dungeons are 7, 10, and 13. :wtf :what
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Post by: Positive Touch on July 29, 2014, 12:38:11 AM
do eeeeet
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Post by: Himu on July 29, 2014, 01:19:50 AM
He's basically saying FF8's.

Thing is, I can understand why people wouldn't like the type of final dungeons I like. They take a lot of effort and sometimes are long, monstrous beasts. I think Digital Devil Saga 1's final dungeon is up there as well. I'm a massive fan of large tower final dungeons that have a ton of bosses. I'm just a sucker for it. The fact that Persona 3 was nothing BUT an endless tower was :lawd Thing is, a lot of people, by that point just want to beat the game. But I'm of the mind that in an rpg, you really need to stress emphasis on the dungeon part of final dungeon. So something small and straight forward like FF7 or 10's doesn't appeal to me at all. Though, they're far from awful. Suikoden IV? That's awful. :yuck

I don't think it's a controversial opinion to not like FF8's dungeon. Pretty understandable in fact! This is also true for Pharos. I think the only other person who agrees with me that Pharos is fucking amazing is Borys. :lol So I'm used to people not liking dungeons I like and I HAVE been accused of being a masochist more than once! :rock
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on July 29, 2014, 01:34:36 AM
Yeah, FF is pretty poor at dungeons, which is why I feel certain dungeons (Kefka's Tower, Ultimecia's Castle, a whole bulk of FF12's dungeons) really stand out. In fact, a big reason I think 12 is the best FF are the dungeons, which I think really up the ante from the series' previous track record. I apparently seem to be a minority in that, though? Stuff like Henne Mines, Stilshrine of Miriam, Barheim Passage, Giruvegan, and Pharos are really my type of thing. Long, monstrous dungeons with gimmicks and traps. FF13 not expanding upon this really disappointed me. :(

I hated FF8's final dungeon for the same reason the first time, and I just unlocked junctions from the seal and went straight for Ultimecia. With about everything else in the game, I came to appreciate it more on replays since I was prepared for it.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: larrydavid on July 29, 2014, 01:47:28 AM
These opinions on final dungeons are ... strong. I'd have to sit and think about my picks. The key for me would probably be music.

It's nice to see people say nice things about Tartarus though! Everyone else on the internet hates it.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on July 29, 2014, 02:19:12 AM
I can't say whether I like or hate Pharos cause I really don't remember it at all.  :yeshrug It's been an eternity since I played FF12, and I always associated the Bahamut itself as 12's final dungeon.

My least favorite jrpg final dungeon is probably Legend of Dragoon's. It takes up the majority of the 4th and last disc, takes hours to complete, is on its own a huge point of no return, you're forced through easy as hell one on one boss fights for every single party member, two more bosses and then a four form final boss that's really annoying to fight and has some supernova-level nonsense that takes forever to cast. Runner up is Last Story's, ezpz pushover enemies in a linear dungeon separated by the most zzzzzzzz dialogue to the point where you wouldn't even know it's a Sakamoto game.

Most interesting final dungeon would be FE: Radiant Dawn's though I don't feel like going into that. I have actual favorites besides it though, like FF5's Interdimensional Rift (essentially a huge/long boss rush and Legend of Legaia's Juggernaut (for spoiler reasons).
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: ZephyrFate on July 29, 2014, 03:28:13 AM
The Suikodens in general have awful final dungeons. II's is incredibly boring, mostly because Leon was such a shoehorned final antagonist. III's is meh. V's is bad, too, but mostly because that entire game is pretty mediocre.

The original game's final dungeon was great as it was a wonderfully circular experience, and the remix of the Gregminster theme in the background was nice. It didn't overstay its welcome, mostly because Gregminster Palace is incredibly small.


The Shadow Hearts games have a pretty great track record for final dungeons, though. Well, maybe not Covenant. The first game has a very well-stylized final trek with some truly fucked up monsters and bosses to fight. The third game has a decent-looking final dungeon aesthetically and it doesn't overstay its welcome with too many bosses. Covenant's just kinda looked like the budget took a nosedive right at the end, except for the final boss.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on July 29, 2014, 03:31:03 AM
Anyone who bashes Memoria has a stupid opinion about final fantasy games.

Where in the hell is FF8 inspired by Gothic architecture? It's primarily steampunk with dashes of ultra sci-fi and then your usual esoteric FF stuff like Shumi Village. There is nowhere that Ultimecia's Castle thematically connects to. It's as out of place as much of the settings are in FF8.

I'm sorry. You're my friend, but this post made me laugh out loud for real.

I'm going to regret making this post but I'm going to make it anyways because it satisfies my obsession with art history and it's a good excuse to post good art.

FF8 is not steampunk. :lol In any shape or form.

Anyways, FF8 does has a mix of gothic and renaissance influences with a dash of victorian and romanesque in its architecture and art. The main continent in FF8 is extremely decidedly European. Deling and Dollet both have large goth tall renaissance and gothic blend structures. They're not full on, but they're definitely inspired.

Final Fantasy never really fits into description niches. Saying FF7 is cyberpunk, for instance, is incorrect, because only Midgar - maybe Junon? - has any hint of cyber technology. FF9 also isn't full steam punk, despite the steam/mist technology. So I wouldn't label FF8 as full gothic, nor even full renaissance, but it does take notes from both in heavy, HEAVY doses.

Deling City is clearly influenced by Italy influenced architecture.

(http://i.imgur.com/GBc5t1t.jpg?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/xZnAJyw.jpg)

The gate overpass in the background is rife with isms of Renaissance and Gothic architecture.

(http://i.imgur.com/cFrgG7c.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/RukBg1x.jpg)

It has the statues of gothic, the arch of renaissance, bu the high arch of gothic. It's almost like a combination of the two styles.

For the record, here's Notre Dame de Paris:

(http://i.imgur.com/IoNvOqM.jpg)

Dollet is filled with European styled architecture. Notice the large full moon and sunset, a decidedly gothic-esque art choice.

(http://i.imgur.com/howoXRu.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/uVBo1nu.jpg)

This theme continues all on down, breh.

(http://i.imgur.com/CYMi6iS.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/foD2fqQ.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/usmYfSK.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/EQKnbe1.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/FdOK9Dz.png)


Notice the arches:

(http://i.imgur.com/a1EGrYP.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/GmrfP5a.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/YYhlc0k.jpg)

You're telling a game that has as much European influenced art as this doesn't have a final dungeon that fits thematically because it's gothic? Using the samples above, something like this:

(http://i.imgur.com/AmTH8Pk.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/A1Wj9VC.jpg)

clearly fits in the same world. If your problem is that it's darker, of course it is! It's the final dungeon!

Anyways, all this talking has me hyped for the game that will never be released's art: Final Fantasy XV. Remember when Final Fantasy art and design were influenced by real world aesthetic and architecture and not random mish mash of futuristic bullshit with any sense of cohesion or inspiring visuals? (:piss FF13 :piss2) I do too!

(http://i.imgur.com/Qkg713K.jpg)

And so does Yosuke Naora. :heartbeat :heart God that game looks FF8 as fuck. :noah PLEASE COME OUT.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on July 29, 2014, 03:33:31 AM
The Suikodens in general have awful final dungeons. II's is incredibly boring, mostly because Leon was such a shoehorned final antagonist. III's is meh. V's is bad, too, but mostly because that entire game is pretty mediocre.

Suikdoen final dungeons tended to be average. But IV and probably V's were awful.

I highly rate III's final dungeon however. Once again, we have a three party set up, a boss rush, and awesome. :lawd
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: ZephyrFate on July 29, 2014, 04:12:54 AM
At least FFXV's gameplay is looking ten million times better than FF8's. If it ever comes out.

(It won't)
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: ZephyrFate on July 29, 2014, 04:13:27 AM
But I really want it to because FF took way too long to finally transition into an action RPG franchise
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on July 29, 2014, 02:54:11 PM
This post on giantbomb about FFVIII and IX's themes on family are :lawd

http://www.giantbomb.com/profile/thatpinguino/blog/forgetting-where-you-came-from-amnesia-in-ffviii-a/103692/
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: magus on July 29, 2014, 04:14:45 PM
 :comeon

himumu reaching these level of sperginess (http://squallsdead.com/)
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Trent Dole on July 29, 2014, 06:06:45 PM
Himumu's gonna Himumu, mang. :yeshrug
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 30, 2014, 01:46:36 PM
D/L'ed Final Fantasy: All the Bravest. :teehee

I mean, yeah the IAP is   :goty2 and the gameplay is  :goty, but it's okay for something to swipe at every few hours. It's got FF music and sprites and shit and it didn't cost me anything because I'm not buying any of the IAP (he claims) and it's got cute flavor text, so whatev. I think I've pretty much "beat" it already, but you can go back and grind for weapon drops and rare monsters if you're in the mood.

Also d/l'ed My Life as a Darklord.

I didn't even know this game existed until the other day when I was looking at My Life as a King in the Wii Shop. Because, well, who pays attention to what's was happening in the Wii Shop? Nintendo hasn't had a clue what to do with it since Day 1, and it hasn't gotten any better. This is a tower defense game, it's pretty basic, and kinda meh even by tower defense standards. It's also got a bunch of shady Pay-2-Win DLC. This would probably be a decent F2P iOS game.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on July 30, 2014, 01:53:54 PM
ATB is an ok time waster as a F2P game.

Problem is that it wasn't a F2P game when it launched. It launched exactly as it is now but asked people to pay $4 for it on top of all the IAP for a random chance to get a character you may or may not give a shit about.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 30, 2014, 02:03:06 PM
Yeah, I remember the outrage when it first came out, with sites basically writing PSA's begging people not to buy it. :lol I wouldn't pay $4 for it, but I'd pay $0.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: ZephyrFate on July 30, 2014, 04:32:43 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N34D-dww6wA

I did not realize this was a rearrangement of the classic FF Prelude theme.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on July 31, 2014, 02:27:56 PM
Good news for those who've been on the fence: There's now a free 14 day trial for the PC version of FFXIV.

http://www.ffxiv-freetrial.com/

There are some limitations in place for those free users, but its honestly not too bad and gives you a good enough taste of what the game offers.

(Do let me know if you're interested, there's a refer a friend campaign that can net us both some goodies if you use a referral code to sign up and get some game time after the trial is over)
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on July 31, 2014, 11:32:03 PM
So is there like a preferred Bore world for FFXIV?
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on August 01, 2014, 12:12:26 AM
I play on Hyperion, which is a pretty well-populated server. Dunno about the others who've mentioned they play the game.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
GAF plays on Ultros, if you want to avoid them for whatever reason.
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Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Lucretius on August 01, 2014, 02:48:21 AM
I'm on Brynhildr and have a pretty rad Free Company (guild) that I play with every night.  I'm Titus Lucretius, a giant Roegadyn (demi bait).
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: demi on August 01, 2014, 09:44:47 AM
Roegadyns are muscle meatheads.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Lucretius on August 02, 2014, 03:19:10 AM
Roegadyns are muscle meatheads.

 :heartbeat :heartbeat :heartbeat
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Lucretius on August 02, 2014, 02:35:50 PM
Roegadyns are muscle meatheads.

Trachtoum, a Roegadyn NPC in FFXIV, brags about how big his dick is.

(http://i.imgur.com/2qCOSr9.jpg)

You find out later just how big it really is!

spoiler (click to show/hide)
  Tiny and pathetic.

(http://i.imgur.com/d2SGSRl.jpg)
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Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: demi on August 02, 2014, 05:55:56 PM
Sounds about right. Meatheads compensating
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 02, 2014, 08:25:38 PM
Final Fantasy All The Bravest
Fainaru Fantajī ōru za bureibesuto
Original Release: January 17, 2013
Edition Played: iOS
Time to Beat: ~4 Hours
Date Completed: August 1, 2014
Score:  SwipeSwipeSwipe/10

(http://i.imgur.com/ezUBOr0.png)

Beating ATB is not really much of an accomplishment, since you can do it in about 15 minutes of in-game time, using golden hourglasses or just waiting for your characters to respawn. So, I also 100%'d it. ATB is basically a glorified sticker book, so might as well collect all the stickers before I call it a day.

(http://i.imgur.com/4hf9MQv.png) (http://i.imgur.com/5qcq1Pi.png) (http://i.imgur.com/xpwW5Xv.png)

The flavor text was cute and swiping at 16-bit FF sprites was entertaining enough for a few hours to keep me coming back while I was in the Taco Bell drive-thru or waiting for a file to download. Fuck the premium content, tho. It costs $47 if you want all of that, and I don't. Apparently it's even grindier than the free content too, to try and encourage you to buy golden hourglasses. Gotta reel in them whales.  ::)

Instead, I'll just pay $16 for FF Dimensions and support real games.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Positive Touch on August 03, 2014, 12:14:20 PM
playing around with ffv on ios and it's better than I expected! graphics are more detailed than dimensions and look fantastic, and the music makes the soundtrack(one of my least faves) sound much better.  biggest improvement is the controls: you get full 360 movement and it is SO MUCH BETTER than the shitty traditional four-way movement that's used in a lot of old-school-styled ios games. feels much, much smoother.

all in all it seems great; definitive version prolly.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on August 03, 2014, 03:18:29 PM
I haven't gotten past the first town in FFD. I should play it.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on August 03, 2014, 03:21:55 PM
It is.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: magus on August 03, 2014, 03:34:59 PM
Hmm that review above makes FF: ATB sound not terrible.

it's a "click on stuff, get reward, wait for bars to recharge, repeat until the end" so basicaly it's more of a time waster than an actual game though i guess if joe beat it in 4 hours even as a time waster there isn't a lot of it :lol

i wanted to try it on my android phone but it crashes everytime i try to start it, good jon square-enix!


Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on August 03, 2014, 03:41:11 PM
How did Borys even get "hmmm this doesn't sound that bad" from "you can beat this game in fifteen minutes but I beat it in four and all you do is swipe shit and it's basically like collecting stickers?"

This is why you spent 300 hours playing ff13 trilogy.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 03, 2014, 03:44:27 PM
ATB is free now, Borys, so just download it and dick around with it for a bit.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: ZephyrFate on August 03, 2014, 04:04:37 PM
How did Borys even get "hmmm this doesn't sound that bad" from "you can beat this game in fifteen minutes but I beat it in four and all you do is swipe shit and it's basically like collecting stickers?"

This is why you spent 300 hours playing ff13 trilogy.
The FF13 trilogy is good, though.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on August 03, 2014, 04:15:42 PM
I wouldn't know. Have never played 2 or LR. Haven't bought an FF since 13 unless you count X HD or Theatrhythm.

I'd get them because I honestly miss playing new Final Fantasy, but having played Bravely Default, FFX INTL HD, FF5, 6, and 7 this year, I'm pretty content FF-wise. Thankfully BD is there to appeal to my tastes despite not being a "real" FF game.

Given that 15 will never be released, I have all the time in the world to play 13-2 and LR. With guarded expectations, of course. But not before I finish up FFX-2 INTL later this year.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 03, 2014, 07:31:21 PM
Strong black Aerith and the gang!  8)

(http://i.imgur.com/gKjBGA3.png) (http://i.imgur.com/qQ8L8vU.png)

I'm not very good at naming. :( I wonder if I should have taken a monster in the party?
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on August 03, 2014, 07:35:48 PM
ooh, I still haven't played this or 3. loved 2 on GB back in the day. I hear the DS version of 3 is way different / better than the original
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 03, 2014, 07:38:56 PM
I was just poking around this afternoon and discovered there were English fansubs for 2 and 3, I didn't know that.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Positive Touch on August 03, 2014, 08:48:19 PM
what game is that
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 03, 2014, 08:54:12 PM
SaGa 2 DS remake (aka Final Fantasy Legends II).
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Positive Touch on August 03, 2014, 09:11:41 PM
:hmm only saga I ever played was frontier. scared me away from the rest of the series
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on August 03, 2014, 09:26:17 PM
there's an english translation patch?
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on August 04, 2014, 12:33:10 AM
Listening to FFIX ost while i work on a work project :rejoice
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 06, 2014, 11:19:58 AM
Seriously, wtf @ Chocobo riding in Final Fantasy VI? I thought I was having a stroke or something, like my brain wasn't processing what I was seeing correctly.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: magus on August 06, 2014, 01:35:47 PM
Seriously, wtf @ Chocobo riding in Final Fantasy VI? I thought I was having a stroke or something, like my brain wasn't processing what I was seeing correctly.

what's the problem with it? can't handle some good ol mode 7? :smug
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 06, 2014, 01:56:29 PM
I miss the good ol' days when you just pushed left and your chocobo went left. :'(
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on August 06, 2014, 01:58:32 PM
Jesus is this your first time ply final fantsay vi dude? left or right to adjust where you want to go. hit up, left up, or right up. it controls just like a 3d game.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 06, 2014, 02:02:41 PM
Yes, it's my first time to play FF6, and I understand how the controls work, they're just weird.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on August 06, 2014, 02:07:51 PM
Just wait till you get the airship :lol
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on August 06, 2014, 04:36:14 PM
upside-down trees and buildings lol
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 06, 2014, 04:43:06 PM
I'm feeling kinda woozy...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slKSmiClr9k

 :-X
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on August 06, 2014, 04:51:16 PM
I have to admit I remember thinking the Mode 7 "3D" stuff was really rad at the time. Even now, I still kinda think as much as it uglifies and nonsensicalizes the map tileset, it's worth it just for the feel of the sky and the horizon.
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Post by: demi on August 06, 2014, 04:51:25 PM
Quit being a bitch, Joe. Straddle that cock.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on August 06, 2014, 05:11:33 PM
Also I'm positive ff6 has the worst chocobo music of all time
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 06, 2014, 05:19:37 PM
Mods de Chocobo, tho. :lawd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xErfUvB7NI
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: magus on August 06, 2014, 05:27:40 PM
Also I'm positive ff6 has the worst chocobo music of all time

nah that prize goes to FFXIII-2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEUOOgNzOv4

:-\  :mindblown :beli :comeon :brazilcry :dayum :shaq2
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on August 06, 2014, 05:32:17 PM
IMO this is the best:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HKHQWoMX8o
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Rufus on August 06, 2014, 05:35:06 PM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d81qFaoe010
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Post by: ZephyrFate on August 06, 2014, 05:36:13 PM
Vamo 'alla Flamenco shits all over all of the chocobo themes before or since. Come on dudes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6w7atxi0BI

Come on.

(the actual riding theme isn't too bad either)
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on August 06, 2014, 05:39:22 PM
Haha, knew Zeph would be a IX song. It's a great song though.

I think Vamos a la Flemenco is great, but it's not a proper Chocobo theme. It doesn't even have de Chocobo in its name or the traditional Chocobo melody.

Also, gotta give VII credit where it's due. It has equivalently the greatest Cid theme of all time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJzfOA9uV6E
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Post by: magus on August 09, 2014, 01:30:55 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6GGaR_C7P0

square-enix MO

remember the players of all the good times they had

THEN STAB THEM THROUGH THE FUCKING HEART! :phil

spoiler (click to show/hide)
*cue himuro asking me once again why do i care so i have to explain him yet again that i really don't and that i'm just posting the trailer...

...

well ok the way FF7 is all before the other FF kinda irks me off! like they know it's the FF i give the most fuck about, but you know what? you'll never get me square!

(http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzvnvvDs571qis8efo1_500.gif)
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Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on August 09, 2014, 02:23:07 PM
i'm not  a he
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on August 09, 2014, 02:26:06 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6GGaR_C7P0

square-enix MO

remember the players of all the good times they had

THEN STAB THEM THROUGH THE FUCKING HEART! :phil

spoiler (click to show/hide)
*cue himuro asking me once again why do i care so i have to explain him yet again that i really don't and that i'm just posting the trailer...

...

well ok the way FF7 is all before the other FF kinda irks me off! like they know it's the FF i give the most fuck about, but you know what? you'll never get me square!

(http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzvnvvDs571qis8efo1_500.gif)
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Fantastic trailer. Really got me in the feels. That nice feeling where it starts in the gut and it builds to your heart and you get chills. :heart I love you FF. :heart

I'd like to play this. Assuming it's good! :heart
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Post by: magus on August 09, 2014, 02:42:11 PM
i'm not  a he

(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g12/Daghul/Squall-Whatever.jpg)
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Post by: Himu on August 09, 2014, 03:00:32 PM
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbgefvvl1I1qke482o1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on August 09, 2014, 03:42:55 PM
Dammit SE, stop snubbing your XI and XIV fans. We like cheap quickly made fansercive too.  :wag
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on August 09, 2014, 07:22:11 PM
Yes, I was busy replying to magus that I'm not a he.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on August 10, 2014, 01:59:23 PM
I was satisfied with FF13's ending. Until they revived. I thought that was a complete cop out towards their sacrifice. The party completing their focus and becoming crystal had a bitter sweet ending and I felt that everyone being revived and having a grand ol' happy family reunion betrayed the games message and themes.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: demi on August 11, 2014, 12:18:01 PM
Put FF7 on my Vita last night. Getting the itch to replay these again.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Positive Touch on August 11, 2014, 02:11:38 PM
do eeeeeet
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on August 11, 2014, 02:15:22 PM
Put FF7 on my Vita last night. Getting the itch to replay these again.

Get all the enemy skills! :rock
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on August 15, 2014, 05:43:37 PM
I really liked the FF1 port on the GBA, especially since the NES version was heavily bugged. The special swords didn't work right and neither did several spells.

I think I've mentioned it on here before, but a guy hacked enough of the GBA ROM to find the relevant HP/EXP/etc...tables. You can actually revert the game to the NES game's difficulty with about 30 minutes of hex editing. The PSP port was identical to the GBA one but its graphics look too...glossy?
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: ZephyrFate on August 19, 2014, 05:10:25 AM
It's alright, except for Alba. What a horrid character.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Positive Touch on August 19, 2014, 08:45:37 PM
fuck square Enix for not including Japanese va in ffx hd. shit is even worse than I remembered  :yuck
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: SpeedStats on August 23, 2014, 06:53:34 PM
Huh, the later chapters in FFD look interesting based on some of those screens.

I should probably progress beyond the first chapter in that game.  Every time I go to play FFD, I start playing Tiny Dice Dungeon instead. :/
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: SantaC on August 23, 2014, 07:13:09 PM
always loved this track from FFXII

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgvaZ1F7Ox8
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on August 23, 2014, 10:26:09 PM
fuck square Enix for not including Japanese va in ffx hd. shit is even worse than I remembered  :yuck

The Japanese va is way worse.


Huh, the later chapters in FFD look interesting based on some of those screens.

I should probably progress beyond the first chapter in that game.  Every time I go to play FFD, I start playing Tiny Dice Dungeon instead. :/

Yeah, I can't get past the first dungeon in FFD because it's so vanilla. Not bad or anything, just not interesting enough to want to keep playing. Those screens give me hope.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on August 23, 2014, 10:44:57 PM
Yoshi-P confirmed in the last FFXIV live letter (http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/188524-Letter-from-the-Producer-LIVE-Part-XVII-Q-A-Updates?p=2385167&viewfull=1#post2385167) that they're adding Triple Triad alongside Chocobo Racing whenever they release the Golden Saucer for the game. Wouldn't be surprised if some people buy FFXIV just for that.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Positive Touch on August 24, 2014, 12:52:32 AM
SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEIIIIIIIIT
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Positive Touch on August 24, 2014, 12:57:27 AM
and how the hell could the original version on ffx va be worse? the u.s. one sucks  because the inflections are all wrong. no way the original could be worse.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on August 24, 2014, 01:18:20 AM
and how the hell could the original version on ffx va be worse? the u.s. one sucks  because the inflections are all wrong. no way the original could be worse.

It is. Tidus sounds awful. I never found a problem with the dub, honestly.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 24, 2014, 01:20:51 AM
I like X's voice acting.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Positive Touch on August 24, 2014, 03:31:38 AM
the actors themselves are mostly alright, but between the long awkward pauses, the crap-o animation, and most importantly the way they emphasize the wrong parts of sentences - clearly they didn't have a good va director - it just sounds annoying to listen to.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on August 24, 2014, 08:44:23 AM
Never had a problem with it besides Yuna. YouTube FFX hd in Japanese. I watched it on YouTube to help with Japanese lessons and the va is fucking awful.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: tiesto on August 24, 2014, 09:33:43 AM
Gonna start Lightning Returns after I finish breakfast... I played the demo and it wasn't too bad, but the time limit has me worried.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: ZephyrFate on August 24, 2014, 04:15:10 PM
Fight a lot, abuse Chronostasis. It's never going to be an issue and you're likely to end up with TOO MUCH TIME unless you play on Hard.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on August 25, 2014, 09:52:48 AM
What's wrong with Hope
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: demi on August 25, 2014, 10:11:10 AM
That's a spoiler
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: SpeedStats on August 25, 2014, 02:01:13 PM
What's wrong with Hope

LIGHTNING YOU HAVE 60 MINUTES TILL CURFEW
REMEMBER YOU HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOUR ROOM IN 45 MINUTES
LIGHTNING COME HOME IN THIRTY MINUTES K
HEY LIGHTNING REMEMBER YOUR CURFEW IS IN 15 MINUTES!!
10 MINUTES UNTIL I BRING YOUR ASS HOME LIGHTNING
5 MINUTES
OK COME HOME NOW

Hope literally doesn't shut up.  :lol
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: magus on August 25, 2014, 02:07:02 PM
What's wrong with Hope

LIGHTNING YOU HAVE 60 MINUTES TILL CURFEW
REMEMBER YOU HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOUR ROOM IN 45 MINUTES
LIGHTNING COME HOME IN THIRTY MINUTES K
HEY LIGHTNING REMEMBER YOUR CURFEW IS IN 15 MINUTES!!
10 MINUTES UNTIL I BRING YOUR ASS HOME LIGHTNING
5 MINUTES
OK COME HOME NOW

Hope literally doesn't shut up.  :lol

i played the game for 10 minutes and i can confirm this is true
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on August 25, 2014, 02:15:18 PM
Wait wait wait.

Lightening returns has a good soundtrack?
I didn't even bother with the game after trying out FFXIII-2 several times and not being able to stomach it so I've been trying to pretend LR never happened.
But the soundtrack is good?
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: demi on August 25, 2014, 02:24:35 PM
Ya it's got some good tunes.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: SpeedStats on August 25, 2014, 02:24:56 PM
To me, it's the most lacklustre of the three FF13 soundtracks, but I thought FF13-2's soundtrack was the strongest out of all three for its compositional and genre diversity.  That said, LR's soundtrack fits the game, but the general mood and genres used throughout the soundtrack aren't to my personal taste.  I think when I heard the soundtrack for the first time, I wasn't completely sure what to say, and I still kind of don't.  Whatever tracks stand out, stand out very well.  The music is more suited to add to the atmosphere and that works within the context of the game considering the type of game it is (more exploration-based and pacing suited to how the player wants to proceed).  In terms of listening to the discs on their own, it doesn't have the same effect as the previous two soundtracks to me.  I think it's the one FF soundtrack out of all the physical FF soundtracks and arrangement albums that I own that I've probably listened to the least post-game release.

The person I know who worked on the soundtrack added some neat things in the mastering phase, though.  Especially towards the end of the soundtrack on Disc 4.

I think the soundtrack's reception has been mixed in a few VGM circles, though the bigger sites seem to like it.  Though, again, since I listen to soundtracks out of context quite often, LR's soundtrack doesn't work as well compared to its predecessors.  In-game, though, it works quite well and achieves its desired effects.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 25, 2014, 02:53:30 PM
Bought FFXIV for the Quadruple, hope the Golden Saucer stuff happens soon!
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: ZephyrFate on August 25, 2014, 04:19:40 PM
Lightning Returns has a phenomenal OST. Ouroboros Fiesta and we're done.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on August 25, 2014, 04:24:27 PM
What's wrong with Hope

LIGHTNING YOU HAVE 60 MINUTES TILL CURFEW
REMEMBER YOU HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOUR ROOM IN 45 MINUTES
LIGHTNING COME HOME IN THIRTY MINUTES K
HEY LIGHTNING REMEMBER YOUR CURFEW IS IN 15 MINUTES!!
10 MINUTES UNTIL I BRING YOUR ASS HOME LIGHTNING
5 MINUTES
OK COME HOME NOW

Hope literally doesn't shut up.  :lol

So he's basically the asshole in dead rising 1 now?
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 25, 2014, 05:17:45 PM
XIII-2's soundtrack is so good.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Lucretius on August 26, 2014, 03:16:59 AM
This is why FFXIV is so good.  This is my Free Company (guild) mates and me (on the bed) being distinguished mentally-challenged tonight.

(http://img2.finalfantasyxiv.com/accimg/68/29/68298d70bc49650ec3f57cc0ff396ba2fa96f1ca.jpg)
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on August 28, 2014, 09:50:16 PM
that's some seriously good stuff.

I've been thinking about doing a full series play through (til at least X). But making it through II, VIII and IX intimidate me.
IIs just weird
VIII you gotta sorta cheat it to get through it quickly
IX could be my favorite if it weren't just so damn slow.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: ZephyrFate on August 29, 2014, 04:11:04 AM
Set it to Active with battle speed at max and/or frameskip if you're using an emulator. I've played IX a billion times and I have never found it slow, so I've honestly never understood the criticism despite recognizing the amount of time it takes to load a battle. It's by far the best game in the series, and I must have played it through like 10 times by now.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 29, 2014, 06:35:59 AM
"I've never understood the complaint"

"Here are someways to get around the complaint"

How does that work?
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on August 29, 2014, 08:55:42 AM
FFIX is slow as shit, especially after the brisk pace of VIII.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: ZephyrFate on August 29, 2014, 04:29:31 PM
Minus the rest of the garbage that was VIII.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Lucretius on September 02, 2014, 11:31:31 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/pxeUSSw.jpg)

I present to you the stupidest character in FF history...
spoiler (click to show/hide)
... on the right. The awesome guy on the left is my character in FFXIV. Lightning has crossed the interdimensional/promotional rift and is uncoolifying Eorzea for a limited time.
[close]

Dat spear!

(http://i.imgur.com/q2dVmrb.jpg)
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: demi on September 02, 2014, 11:41:59 AM
This is why FFXIV is so good.  This is my Free Company (guild) mates and me (on the bed) being distinguished mentally-challenged tonight.

http://img2.finalfantasyxiv.com/accimg/68/29/68298d70bc49650ec3f57cc0ff396ba2fa96f1ca.jpg

Gross. Call me when it gets updated with a fur shader.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Lucretius on September 02, 2014, 11:47:14 AM
This is why FFXIV is so good.  This is my Free Company (guild) mates and me (on the bed) being distinguished mentally-challenged tonight.

http://img2.finalfantasyxiv.com/accimg/68/29/68298d70bc49650ec3f57cc0ff396ba2fa96f1ca.jpg

Gross. Call me when it gets updated with a fur shader.


Better?

(http://i.imgur.com/axbSzQ5.jpg)

He looks better in his Warrior gear.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: demi on September 09, 2014, 09:53:26 AM
Do we REALLY need that many pics. I already told everyone FFD is awesome. Way to not listen and be late to the party.

Being right :lawd
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Positive Touch on September 12, 2014, 12:01:36 PM
at the last boss of ffx hd and fuck me I forgot how good this game was. like the battle system is inferior to atb, but everything else (except the va lol) is top notch. tons of little secrets, great variety and gimmicks in the boss fights, great scenario design with a genuinely creative and compelling story. just lots of fun.

think I'll skip over the superbosses and jump straight into ffx2. I never replayed it so I'm fucking PUMPED to get back into it, especially with all the extra content.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: demi on September 12, 2014, 12:04:01 PM
Superbosses are nothing but a slog (unless you cheese with Zanmato), anyway. Jump to X-2.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Positive Touch on September 12, 2014, 12:24:45 PM
I did them all back in the day on the original us version and it was hell. grinding out nodes on the sphere grid takes for fucking ever and is barely worth it when you're just getting +1 to stats most of the time anyway. I ended up using delta sisters to kill most of the special bosses anyway. the new ones sound a million times worse, too, so I doubt I'll get to those any time soon.

also demi what is your psn id?
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: demi on September 12, 2014, 12:28:26 PM
Dark Aeons & Penance weren't in US version, just Nemesis & Omega Weapon (who gets a boost in International as well)

demibear
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on September 12, 2014, 12:30:27 PM
I wrote a review at the other place on FFX int.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=842225

haven't gotten to x-2 yet aside from the intro because i'm taking a break after doing some heavy grindan in x. but expect a similar review, only over here.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Positive Touch on September 12, 2014, 12:30:54 PM
yeah that's what I meant by "the new ones." the arena bosses and nemesis were bad enough, and the dark aeons seem much stronger.

thx
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Cheddahz on September 12, 2014, 12:30:58 PM
Superbosses are nothing but a slog (unless you cheese with Zanmato), anyway. Jump to X-2.
Basically this

If you give a shit about trophies, then do them, but I wouldn't go through the trouble to defeat them
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: demi on September 12, 2014, 12:34:11 PM
I put X2 on my Vita, I'm ready to dive in and become who I really am. Also Vita lets you have a Browser open as well so I can flip to the 100% guide easy.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Positive Touch on September 12, 2014, 12:49:48 PM
that's a great write-up himu!

yesterday I found a 100% checklist I had printed out a decade ago, so I'm good to go!
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on September 21, 2014, 01:47:31 PM
After I'm done with DQVI I'm seriously thinking of a FF series playthrough (probably less XII and XIII though I finished XII like a year or so ago and XIII...well nope).
But I do have Radiant Historia looking at me on the shelf. Hrmm....decisions decisions.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on September 21, 2014, 01:53:42 PM
Going from DQ to FF will expose FF as the inferior series. Go with Radiant.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on September 21, 2014, 01:58:58 PM
I've always known that FF was inferior DQ so that's not gonna be a surprise. But...maybe you're right.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: dmj on September 21, 2014, 05:58:22 PM
I tried to play FFX-2 after FFX and I just couldn't. I thought I'd enjoy playing it, but I did the same thing when it came out on the PS2, which is be completely disenchanted with the game as a whole.  It joins Lighting Returns as the two main-line FF games I've not played to completion. 

Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Positive Touch on September 21, 2014, 06:07:05 PM
:shrug I started it up and it's just as great as I remembered. assloads of great content all available from the start, an all-new battle system that's my favorite in the series, lots of story stuff that builds on the original instead of ignoring it or retconning it, plus a big-ass new gamelong sidequest. feck I love that game
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on September 21, 2014, 06:10:52 PM
:bow :bow :bow
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: SpeedStats on September 21, 2014, 06:11:09 PM
Aw, I love FFX-2 to bits and pieces.  But it's definitely not for everyone.

One of my Top 5 FFs.

Going from DQ to FF will expose FF as the inferior series. Go with Radiant.

Seconding this.  Go with Radiant Historia first.

And I'd agree. DQ is more consistent than FF with respect to narrative, systems, etc.  I should do that playthrough of DQ6 SFC next year when I have more time because I really liked DQ7 and those two games are similar.  I love FF, but it can be inconsistent at times and sometimes one thing might hurt how the whole package works.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on September 21, 2014, 06:15:30 PM
X-2 is top 5 FF for me too.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on September 21, 2014, 06:17:34 PM
Aw, I love FFX-2 to bits and pieces.  But it's definitely not for everyone.

One of my Top 5 FFs.

Going from DQ to FF will expose FF as the inferior series. Go with Radiant.

Seconding this.  Go with Radiant Historia first.

And I'd agree. DQ is more consistent than FF with respect to narrative, systems, etc.  I should do that playthrough of DQ6 SFC next year when I have more time because I really liked DQ7 and those two games are similar.  I love FF, but it can be inconsistent at times and sometimes one thing might hurt how the whole package works.

I get more FEELS when it comes to FF because it was my first rpg love and nothing can take that away from me, so to this day I admit I have a bit of a heart jump when it comes to new FF announcements. But in the end, I'd take DQ over FF any day. Gameplay, charm, ideas, it just suits me more as an adult.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 21, 2014, 07:04:59 PM
I tried to play FFX-2 after FFX and I just couldn't. I thought I'd enjoy playing it, but I did the same thing when it came out on the PS2, which is be completely disenchanted with the game as a whole.  It joins Lighting Returns as the two main-line FF games I've not played to completion. 


I can't get into X-2 as well and at this point I don't know why. When I played it back when it came out it was because of how different it was from X. It had a strange battle system to me(first FF was X), had a level select type mission structure(which I don't like in XIII-2 either), and just wasn't what I was looking for. It had nothing to do with the tone as that never bothered me.

I've thought about going back since I enjoyed XIII and now can appreciate a fast paced battle system. I also get the jobs and whatnot now. Yet, I also don't really care for FF sequels and thats a barrier for me as well. I just don't seem to enjoy going back to thier worlds and stories after the main event. Maybe one day I'll buy it on Vita and play it that way. 
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: dmj on September 21, 2014, 07:06:39 PM
Aw, I love FFX-2 to bits and pieces.  But it's definitely not for everyone.

One of my Top 5 FFs.

Top 5:

FFVII
FFVIII
FFIX
FFX
FFT

 :bow :bow2

The PS1 era was my first introduction into the series, so obviously nostalgia plays a big part in it, but those five are my favorites

I can't get into X-2 as well and at this point I don't know why. When I played it back when it came out it was because of how different it was from X. It had a strange battle system to me(first FF was X), had a level select type mission structure(which I don't like in XIII-2 either), and just wasn't what I was looking for. It had nothing to do with the tone as that never bothered me.

I've thought about going back since I enjoyed XIII and now can appreciate a fast paced battle system. I also get the jobs and whatnot now. Yet, I also don't really care for FF sequels and thats a barrier for me as well. I just don't seem to enjoy going back to thier worlds and stories after the main event. Maybe one day I'll buy it on Vita and play it that way.

Yeah the change of pace is so hard to wrap my head around, and the battle system doesn't work for me either. 
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: nachobro on September 21, 2014, 07:10:39 PM
6
4
10
11
14

:D

This is only counting FFs I've finished though, so no 12 or X2 even though I really liked both of those a lot. 13 could be up there if it wasn't a complete trash story. I really liked battles in that game.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on September 21, 2014, 08:38:09 PM
12
8
x-2
5
IX or Tactics
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 21, 2014, 09:03:47 PM
X
XII
VI
XIII
IX
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Positive Touch on September 21, 2014, 09:12:48 PM
and here come the listwars
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: SpeedStats on September 21, 2014, 10:04:02 PM
I should probably shoulder the blame for that one.  I'm sorry. :/

I think all of them are pretty good and while some fall shorter than others, they do have some redeeming qualities.  I don't think there's an FF game that I can say I outright hate as a video game.  They're pretty top-tier as games in general.

I get more FEELS when it comes to FF because it was my first rpg love and nothing can take that away from me, so to this day I admit I have a bit of a heart jump when it comes to new FF announcements. But in the end, I'd take DQ over FF any day. Gameplay, charm, ideas, it just suits me more as an adult.

I'm still trying to figure out what exactly I value out of FF since I've started to feel like what I like about the series might vary from what a lot of people like about it.  Like, I don't see a lot that I like about XVersus while a lot of people seem to, for example.  I think the multiple playthroughs of FF5 I did this year probably factored into that, though, haha.

DQ's narratives and systems have depth in simplicity and that's why I've started to appreciate them more than I did before.  Mind, DQ1 was one of the first RPGs I'd played and I liked it and PS1 at the time a lot for different reasons.  Didn't feel the same about FF1 for some reason.

Still gotta do some thinking with respect to what makes FF for me. 
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Rufus on September 21, 2014, 10:21:20 PM
I've always liked that it's not the same every time. There are common traits and themes, but the systems always have some twist to them. That necessarily means the overall quality will vary, but it was enough to keep me on board until the PS2 era. They lost me with 13, but I'll check it out on PC I guess. See if it's really as un-appealing as it always looked.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on September 21, 2014, 10:24:16 PM
12
8
x-2
5
IX or Tactics
Its almost as if you decided on creating the most controversial list you could. (With the exception of ix)
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: tiesto on September 21, 2014, 10:49:20 PM
Just completed the bonus dungeon, and up right before the final battle in LR. Looks like I need to do a new game plus for a little while and collect a few more items to get the last few achievements according to this walkthrough, but that shouldn't be so bad. So this is the end of the 13 saga... I still have no idea wtf is going on. I do want to play through the Lightning XIII-2 dlc, but I don't want to go through the hassle of getting the Treasure Hunter trophy (all I will be missing for a platinum for the whole series)
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on September 21, 2014, 11:15:47 PM
12
8
x-2
5
IX or Tactics
Its almost as if you decided on creating the most controversial list you could. (With the exception of ix)

I don't see why it's controversial. Especially if you connect the dots and see that all of those games share commonalities - except for IX.

I should probably shoulder the blame for that one.  I'm sorry. :/

I think all of them are pretty good and while some fall shorter than others, they do have some redeeming qualities.  I don't think there's an FF game that I can say I outright hate as a video game.  They're pretty top-tier as games in general.

I get more FEELS when it comes to FF because it was my first rpg love and nothing can take that away from me, so to this day I admit I have a bit of a heart jump when it comes to new FF announcements. But in the end, I'd take DQ over FF any day. Gameplay, charm, ideas, it just suits me more as an adult.

I'm still trying to figure out what exactly I value out of FF since I've started to feel like what I like about the series might vary from what a lot of people like about it.  Like, I don't see a lot that I like about XVersus while a lot of people seem to, for example.  I think the multiple playthroughs of FF5 I did this year probably factored into that, though, haha.

DQ's narratives and systems have depth in simplicity and that's why I've started to appreciate them more than I did before.  Mind, DQ1 was one of the first RPGs I'd played and I liked it and PS1 at the time a lot for different reasons.  Didn't feel the same about FF1 for some reason.

Still gotta do some thinking with respect to what makes FF for me.

I like every FF, so my position is that if it has a mix of familiar monsters with sci-fi crossed with fantasy, it's FF. I expect certain things: cid, chocobos, moogles, but that's where the expectations end. I've enjoyed every game in the series due to that even if some (13, 2) flounder in certain areas. FF for me is like, the one series I special fellow out about, so it's really special to me, even if I think there's a lot of jrpg franchises that are better.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Cheddahz on September 21, 2014, 11:40:51 PM
According to Hajime Tabata, Final Fantasy XV is about 50-60% complete

www.gameinformer.com/games/final_fantasy_xv/b/playstation4/archive/2014/09/21/tabata-interview-final-fantasy-xv.aspx
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Post by: Joe Molotov on September 21, 2014, 11:42:32 PM
So, only 8 more years until it's finished?
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on September 22, 2014, 12:08:43 AM
back to X-2 intl now I'm done with DQ8.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on September 22, 2014, 12:24:33 AM
Tabata throws Nomura under the bus : :heh

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The Man Who Saved Final Fantasy XV

The trailer was, in a word, stunning. The game that is now Final Fantasy XV was first announced as Final Fantasy Versus XIII over eight years ago. At this point, some players might have given up on the game ever coming out. The development process hardly seemed ideal—or typical. To many, it seemed like the game was a lost cause.

Eight years is a long time for a game. Currently, Final Fantasy XV is 55 percent completed. That number, however, is misleading. That isn't 55 percent after eight years worth of work. This is 55 percent during the two years Tabata has joined the project. It's something that Square Enix want to be very clear. Perhaps that is the most honest way to think about Final Fantasy XV: The game's development can be divided into before Tabata and after Tabata.

"I joined the project about two years ago, and around that time, we changed platforms," he said. "We re-examined Final Fantasy XV's development structure. We had the gameplay team, the cinematics or CG team, and the game engine team. And we finally merged them all together to work on this game. I think we can deliver the best that Square Enix has to offer."

Internally, more was going on at Square Enix than simply moving teams around. "So, when I joined the development team, we've also shifted from primarily using pre-rendered CG to a mix of pre-rendered CG and in-game images that are at the quality of a pre-rendered image." Tabata wants the experience to be as seamless, as beautiful, as possible. As the trailer shows, they're getting there. According to Tabata, the graphics are about 70 percent of what they are aiming for. "I think we can get the demo's graphics at about 80 percent of what we hope to achieve," he said. "By the time the game is released, we hope to achieve 100 percent."

The rub, of course, for some fans will be that, even though eight years has passed and the game isn't out, its original creator, Tetsuya Nomura, isn't directing. I ask the logical question: Should we think of Final Fantasy Versus XIII and Final Fantasy XV as separate games? You know, different?

"We are making this for the gamers who have been waiting since the game was Final Fantasy Versus XIII," Tabata said. "But, this is not the exact same game. The director is different, and the platform was switched to the current gen. And because the platform has changed, there were things we had to re-evaluate, like what we can and cannot do or even what we have to do. The various circumstances are different."


http://kotaku.com/the-man-who-saved-final-fantasy-xv-1637142585

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The New Director Talks About Release Date And Demo Length

On FF XV’s Progress:
In terms of development, about 50 to 60 percent of the game is complete. We kind of started from the beginning of the game, so the first part is more complete than the others.

On The Open World:
Not literally everything is open world, but it is pretty vast, and you will be able to freely explore. You may have noticed that they’re traveling in a car. You can technically walk around the world, but we recommend using a vehicle, and it’ll be a journey driving through the continent.

On Encounters:
In XV, it’s all seamless; you’ve got enemies that are roaming around in all areas…there’s not an “encounter,” per se. It’s all seamless.

On Stances:
We won’t go into too much detail, but you can switch between an offensive stance and a defensive stance with the push of a button.

---

On Release Dates:
During the “Versus era” – though it might be weird to refer to it that way – we weren’t able to reveal any information on release timing because that was a project in which we had to overcome so many different problems that arose. Unfortunately, while we were trying to work through the issues, the timing never matched. But about two years ago, when I officially joined the project, we did a pretty major directional change when we decided not to go with the previous generation. I also had to talk with Nomura-san about the direction FF XV is going to take. Unfortunately, it’s still going to take a while, but I’m hoping people will reset their timers from when I joined the team and restart the count from there.

http://www.gameinformer.com/games/final_fantasy_xv/b/playstation4/archive/2014/09/21/tabata-interview-final-fantasy-xv.aspx
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Post by: Himu on September 22, 2014, 12:44:52 AM
Even CC isn't good. It's full of random bullshit and taking control away from the player. I honestly don't think it's good. I know he'll get it finished, but I've liked every Nomura game I've played. I haven't liked a single Tabata aside from CC, which I find average and not very fun.

I'm worried about Nomura getting the boot from the company period after KHIII.
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on September 22, 2014, 12:59:55 AM
To me, its the difference between XV coming out or not period. It very much seems like a Metal Gear Rising type situation where the first director couldn't make a coherent and fun game out of the original concept/idea. If Tabata hadn't finally stepped in, Versus could have just been cancelled outright. So even if it ends up being a different game, I'd rather play a XVersus within my lifetime than it never coming out after being teased for so long.

Also eff, rankings, that shit's dumb. I like every (mainline) FF to varying degrees.

12
8
x-2
5
IX or Tactics
Its almost as if you decided on creating the most controversial list you could. (With the exception of ix)

Not even close to being a purposefully controversial list.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on September 22, 2014, 01:20:40 AM
I wouldn't cry for Nommy. Guy could probably make a very good living as a freelancer/indie.

he might be, but who will be there to groom the staff in the future? it feels like more and more, the old guard of FF is leaving. These people have been involved for ages. This could be good or bad, depending on how you lppk at it.
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Post by: Himu on September 22, 2014, 01:30:24 AM
 tidbits from jp interviews on xv:

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- Your party members can get tired from fighting so you have to "set up camp" to rest up and if you don't they won't be as good in battle.

- One in-game day is about 30 minutes long, and monsters that like the dark and hide in caves/dungeons will come out at night time but if you set up camp they won't attack you.

The biggest stuff though is about the combat. The combat seems to be a lot less action-focused now. You cannot manually control any other characters except Noctis, and the combat focuses on two major buttons, one for offense and one for defense. The way it sounds is, that there is a system much like the Gambit system in FF12 where you can set up what your buddies will do in battle. You can also open up a menu to change your battle strategies in the middle of battle. It all seems to me like it's starting to more and more resemble a traditional role-playing game.

Also, Tabata says the game is around 60% complete and I'll take him at his word for it. He says that the beginning parts are a lot farther along so I wouldn't be surprised if the beginning of the game is just about complete now, which is why the Demo (which is basically the beginning of the game) is coming so soon. But I still wouldn't say that a late '15 early '16 Japanese release is out of the cards, since a huge chunk of those 2 years that Tabata had to get to 60% was basically him trying to put out the fire of the smoldering wreck that was Versus.

from something awful

Sounds great.
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Post by: Himu on September 22, 2014, 01:49:14 AM
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But since this is Final Fantasy, this car is more than just a car. According to Tabata, "You can consider the car like it's a member of your party—like airships are in other Final Fantasy games."

The car, though, as a symbol, represents so much. The open road. Far off destinations. And freedom. It seems like a perfect symbol for Final Fantasy XV itself. "Whether it's driving or combat, you can do what you like in the game," Tabata said. "There is that freedom. It's open world, and it's possible to go where you want and explore."

"That being said, if the game is totally open world, it kind of defeats what makes a Final Fantasy game Final Fantasy—which is the dramatic and cinematic storytelling. The game is balanced to ideally satisfy those fans who like traditional Final Fantasy storytelling so they can feel like they're following an epic story."

From what Tabata said, it sounds like Final Fantasy XV aims to offer the experience players get from some of the best open world games: There is the freedom to do as one pleases and explore, but a narrative arc, forgive the pun, drives the game forward.

:noah

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"Before I joined Square Enix, I always looked at Final Fantasy games as the benchmark for game consoles," Tabata said. "Each new game showed what was possible on video game hardware." So, two years ago, when Tabata joined this project, that was the goal: Make a game that would knock everybody's socks off. According to him, the attitude on the team is that they have to make a great game and that they have to impress.

"If we don't do something that people think is amazing, it's meaningless," Tabata said. "If we don't do something that's challenging, it's also meaningless."

:noah That's my S-E visionary bravado I missed from the psx and ps2 days. I love their ambition! :) Here's hoping it does knock our socks off!!
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: SpeedStats on September 22, 2014, 02:05:49 AM
I really want a postmortem article for this game because it would be just as interesting as the FF13 one from a few years ago.  Hell, this whole thing needs its own book, but I don't know if "Japanese companies suffer from mismanagement and/or lack of preparedness for a coming console generation" would fit 200 pages.

It could be a complete mess by the end of it, be somewhat salvaged but not as great as we'd like due to development problems (ex: FF13), or be the best game (which doesn't look likely).  I'm really curious about XV's fate and its legacy, for better or worse.  It feels like one for the books like Daikatana, Duke Nukem Forever, Morrowind, Fallout 3, Resident Evil 4, Prey, etc. were.

I like every FF, so my position is that if it has a mix of familiar monsters with sci-fi crossed with fantasy, it's FF. I expect certain things: cid, chocobos, moogles, but that's where the expectations end. I've enjoyed every game in the series due to that even if some (13, 2) flounder in certain areas. FF for me is like, the one series I special fellow out about, so it's really special to me, even if I think there's a lot of jrpg franchises that are better.

Hmm, yeah.  I like commonalities between every entry like Cid, Chocobos, airships, Moogles, summons, crystals, some music that appears in previous entries (ex: "Final Fantasy"/"Prologue", which is one of my favourite themes in the series since it's like the DQ theme to me), etc.  But it's not enough for them to just be there but it's great when they're used in the narrative or as quest items, or something like that, to a decent extent.  I think when I played FF13 for the first time when I got the Japanese version was that I was so disappointed that very little of that stuff was there, and if they were there, it wasn't used as much as it was in previous entries.  Though I do have to say that for some reason I felt that way when I played FF12 but I was a dumb 18-year-old who didn't know what she wanted and had to play the game a year to completely "get" what it was going for (and even then it had some issues later on in the game). 

All I can come up with is that they aren't perfect games.  They don't all have everything I like about the series, but they have certain elements like the music, recurring themes, recurring characters/enemies/gimmicks/items, etc.  Those elements are not what makes me like it so much.  I guess I just like it when they're really fun to play and I can play around with a lot of stuff to go for meaningful growth or stat augmentation.  I like systems when they feel meaningful, and I like to break the games when I feel like it.  I love that the series switches it up every entry while retaining some sort of core mechanic (and FF's "thing" is keeping the player on their toes while making turn-based commands in an active setting since FF4).  I like the dumb humour in some of the games, like the stuff in FF5 which didn't try too hard to be funny so it felt natural, some stuff in FF7/FF8/FF9, or even some of the stuff in FF14. 

I played two FF games that felt dramatically different from each other this year.  I loathed one of them even though I played through it twice, and I liked one so much that I played through it twice even though I didn't have to.  It's not that they played differently from each other, but I guess I liked the tone of one far more than the other.  The tone and character interactions helped make the experience fun for me, and being able to play around with what was handed to me and trying to figure out how the heck I can do some of the stuff I can in the game with the combination I was handed was fun even if I complained about it both times.   With the other, I was thrown into a game where many of the decisions were left up to me and the game lacked some structure, but I just didn't feel very happy with the tone, the lack of proper character interaction, the music, parts of the customization (ex: having to wait until a second playthrough to even bother doing it), the structure, the pacing, etc.  The game started feeling like a chore rather than a joy/relief to finish like I feel like almost every other FF game, FF13 (less so) and FF13-2 included.  But when I think about it, both games have structural similarities, but one seems to handle it better than the other.

I guess I have to figure out what I liked about those two games and what I'd disliked because it's interesting to have such markedly different experiences with them in the same year.

FF15 seems like something that doesn't feel like a playable FF that I'd want to play since it looks like Advent Children with a UI slapped on it, and I didn't like Advent Children at all.  And I don't know much about it.  It's hard to say how I feel about FF15 because I barely know anything about it, and what I do know about it, I just don't like because the gameplay looks kind of messy and automated.  That doesn't sound very fun!

Going to try to resume FFDimensions because Borys makes it sound fun.
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Post by: ZephyrFate on September 22, 2014, 02:22:47 AM
It's looking much more like a faster, more action-y version of FFXII's system. Which is great because XII's combat was a snoozefest that definitely needed to be faster (vanilla, not IZJS). I like setting up Gambits on  the fly -- it's basically a merger of XII and XIII's combat.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on September 22, 2014, 03:28:48 AM
Hmm, yeah.  I like commonalities between every entry like Cid, Chocobos, airships, Moogles, summons, crystals, some music that appears in previous entries (ex: "Final Fantasy"/"Prologue", which is one of my favourite themes in the series since it's like the DQ theme to me), etc.  But it's not enough for them to just be there but it's great when they're used in the narrative or as quest items, or something like that, to a decent extent.  I think when I played FF13 for the first time when I got the Japanese version was that I was so disappointed that very little of that stuff was there, and if they were there, it wasn't used as much as it was in previous entries.  Though I do have to say that for some reason I felt that way when I played FF12 but I was a dumb 18-year-old who didn't know what she wanted and had to play the game a year to completely "get" what it was going for (and even then it had some issues later on in the game). 

All I can come up with is that they aren't perfect games.  They don't all have everything I like about the series, but they have certain elements like the music, recurring themes, recurring characters/enemies/gimmicks/items, etc.  Those elements are not what makes me like it so much.  I guess I just like it when they're really fun to play and I can play around with a lot of stuff to go for meaningful growth or stat augmentation.  I like systems when they feel meaningful, and I like to break the games when I feel like it.  I love that the series switches it up every entry while retaining some sort of core mechanic (and FF's "thing" is keeping the player on their toes while making turn-based commands in an active setting since FF4).  I like the dumb humour in some of the games, like the stuff in FF5 which didn't try too hard to be funny so it felt natural, some stuff in FF7/FF8/FF9, or even some of the stuff in FF14. 

I played two FF games that felt dramatically different from each other this year.  I loathed one of them even though I played through it twice, and I liked one so much that I played through it twice even though I didn't have to.  It's not that they played differently from each other, but I guess I liked the tone of one far more than the other.  The tone and character interactions helped make the experience fun for me, and being able to play around with what was handed to me and trying to figure out how the heck I can do some of the stuff I can in the game with the combination I was handed was fun even if I complained about it both times.   With the other, I was thrown into a game where many of the decisions were left up to me and the game lacked some structure, but I just didn't feel very happy with the tone, the lack of proper character interaction, the music, parts of the customization (ex: having to wait until a second playthrough to even bother doing it), the structure, the pacing, etc.  The game started feeling like a chore rather than a joy/relief to finish like I feel like almost every other FF game, FF13 (less so) and FF13-2 included.  But when I think about it, both games have structural similarities, but one seems to handle it better than the other.

I guess I have to figure out what I liked about those two games and what I'd disliked because it's interesting to have such markedly different experiences with them in the same year.

FF15 seems like something that doesn't feel like a playable FF that I'd want to play since it looks like Advent Children with a UI slapped on it, and I didn't like Advent Children at all.  And I don't know much about it.  It's hard to say how I feel about FF15 because I barely know anything about it, and what I do know about it, I just don't like because the gameplay looks kind of messy and automated.  That doesn't sound very fun!

Going to try to resume FFDimensions because Borys makes it sound fun.

What I enjoy about FF, more than the tradition and pageantry of cheesy story lines and characters, are the sub systems. The games I listed in my top 5 are all - IX aside - titles that emphasize player individuality, experimentation, and offering a bucket load of options, even if the game nets you a very easy means for breaking the game (ff8, juctioning high magic early; trigger happy + catnip in x-2; ap glitch in tactics; bubble in 12). So I have fun FF most if its sub systems are ones that stress experimentation and making your own fun.

More than that, I'm heavy on adventure. I think adventuring is the corner stone premise of rpgs. It fills in a niche of creativity and curiosity that has serviced the genre going as far as the pen and paper days. adventuring has always been my favorite part of rpgs, even in D&D. The tour of the unknown, and going to strange or sometimes familiar places, while crafting your own story out of it - even if this story is scripted. One time while playing D&D, my group came across a giant gap. You could float over it, you could could do anything that made sense within the context of your own characters ability set. Final Fantasy is like that for me, both with in the sub systems (8's junctioning; ff5 job system; x-2's structure; tactics' free form of options, options, options; XII's everything; IX's chocobo hot and cold and general story direction).

I agree on XII. It took me a long, long time to "get" it. But once I did, I marathon'd it and beat it within a week. It has since been about everything I look for in an FF, even without having played the international version, and even with the flawed story in the second half. I'm not going to claim it's a perfect game, but by no stretch is any FF perfect. That's what happens when you stress experimentation over incremental iterative design, which is why I don't think there's a single FF that's as well designed as DQIII or DQIV. But FF doesn't have to be in order to be great.

a lot of what I'm talking about is why I'm getting excited for XV. The trailer released last week embodies a lot of why I play and enjoy rpgs: adventure, suspense, risk (trying to seek shelter and then ending up getting ambushed by monsters), camaraderie, pizazz and style. Unlike a lot of other rpg fans, my favorite gameplay element of rpgs isn't battling. Battles are great, but I don't think they can make a great rpg alone. From what I've seen, assuming what they're advertising is true to their product, I should enjoy XV. Unlike XIII pre-release I feel its vibe; I always have for the most part, though I agree that upon announcement I wasn't big on the adventu children-isms, but that has since cooled off, and the game now looks more natural, weighted, and grounded compared to ac. It doesn't look anything like advent children anymore, honestly, which was one of my initial critiques of it, so I'm not sure I agree. as for the automation, we will have to see where they're going with it, but so far the rest of the game looks it has potential to be a complete Himu Game. If it has an in-depth customization system, I'll be even more :uguu

When I see (http://i.imgur.com/cq0AY0a.gif)

I see a place that needs exploring. I instantly want to know more about it.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: dmj on September 22, 2014, 05:14:46 AM
I don't know how to feel about XV. I wanna be excited for it but after the XIII debacle, I can no longer muster a great deal of excitement for something that could turn out so lackluster. They're saying lots of good things about the game and the direction they wanna go, but graphics aside, the footage I've seen so far is underwhelming.

I'm gonna buy Type-0 so hopefully actually playing it makes the game worn for me a bit.
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Post by: hampster on September 22, 2014, 09:00:07 AM
And that fuck Tabata says FF15 is 50% done at the moment!

FIFTY PERCENT DONE!

WHAT THE FUCK!

2016 release in the US/ Europe ?!?

GTFO

Sounds like they need to pump out a few more HD remasters to fund the other 50% of development
XII HD :rejoice
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Post by: Positive Touch on September 22, 2014, 11:52:39 AM
I've only played dq 1 & 2 and 7 & 8. I should rectify this.
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Post by: Himu on September 22, 2014, 12:22:11 PM
DQ is better than FF because it iterates on everything they've added to the franchise. If something doesn't work out in one DQ, they'll Fix it the next one (I.e. Alchemy pot). DQ innovates in totally different ways - DQIII class system, DQ4's innovative structure and storytelling which was unmatched until Suikoden III and still remains unique to this day, DQV's storytelling and and structure which no Jrpg has managed to top. But ultimately, innovation doesn't mean much if you constantly reshuffle your franchises bearings. DQ doesn't do that. It builds upon game after game, and considering it's been doing it for over 25 years now, it has reached traditional rpg perfection. FF isn't so lucky.

Whenever a new FF title comes out, there's bo guarantee they will build upon the fantastic ideas of the previous game. A great example of this is FF12 -> FF13: gone is the seamless encounter system that made for unique situations like getting jumped by 12 flans in a locked room, gone is the more grounded storytelling, gone are the fantastic hunt fights with story context, gone is a vast world worth exploring. Instead, they scaled back and made encounters separate screens, sized down the world, and made a fucking awful story with fucking awful characters. DQ has kept it moving because its main premise: adventure, is seen in every title.

DQ is an aged wine, that's a vintage going over 25 years. I LOVE every DQ and it's hard for me to pick a favorite or even bad DQ because picking a bad DQ is like picking a bad Tarantino film - there is no bad Tarantino film.

FF is like a mixed cocktail with some unique good ingredients, and some flavor of the month drink thrown in. You even love that cocktail. But they'll throw out their current recipe next year for something completely different and you've been burned so many times that you gulp before swallowing. I LIKE every FF, but so more than others and once you get a certain point, that LOVE turns into like and into apathy.
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Post by: Himu on September 22, 2014, 12:27:48 PM
And that fuck Tabata says FF15 is 50% done at the moment!

FIFTY PERCENT DONE!

WHAT THE FUCK!

2016 release in the US/ Europe ?!?

GTFO

60% in two years SINCE Tabata has taken over two years ago. From 0 to 60 in two years.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on September 22, 2014, 12:36:35 PM
For me biggest downgrade was the encounter system. FFXII has has the best encounter system I've ever seen in an rpg. :tocry :brazilcry and then the next game brings these STUPID screen transitions back.

XV is about seamless fights sooooo :gladbron :lawd
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Post by: Positive Touch on September 22, 2014, 01:08:49 PM
ff15 trailer showed actual freedom and exploration, which means that despite its other flaws it is guaranteed to be a thousand times more engaging than 13. and crisis core was one of my favorite spinoffs, despite  obvious flaws. there was a great sense of scope, lots of variety, great balance of tone, etc etc. I got a lot of hope that tabata is gonna make something really great.
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Post by: I'm a Puppy! on September 22, 2014, 02:29:40 PM
The FF series is like a handful of mixed chocolates mixed with a nearly equal handful of rabbit turds. You get something different every time, but you run the risk of eating shit.

The DQ series is like a box of identical high quality chocolates. Each one is better than almost anything you'll pull out of the FF bag, but the lack of variety can be boring sometimes.
I'm sorta having this problem with DQ 6 and its probably why it's taken so long to actually get it to completion. It's a fine game. Everything about it is rather good. But really it's just that DQ 7 did it all so much better and they're so similar that I can't help but feel that all things being equal I'd rather be playing DQ 7.
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Post by: Himu on September 22, 2014, 02:31:36 PM
That's because 6 is kind down there when it comes to dq
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on September 22, 2014, 02:32:43 PM
Well that "only male party" thing is sure going to piss of some people.
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Post by: Himu on September 22, 2014, 02:37:14 PM
It really shouldn't given that an all male party is something that's refreshing for jrpgs (seriously, name one jrpg where the entire party are men, single character games like vagrant story and dq1 don't count) and the last three single player FF's all starred women.

So anyone who bitches about it needs to shut the fuck up and join the bishie parade. Especially since there's a game in the series that's GIRL POWER as fuck and only stars girls.

More than likely, due to the the overwhelming cock fest, XVI will star a woman again.
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Post by: I'm a Puppy! on September 22, 2014, 02:40:03 PM
Well that "only male party" thing is sure going to piss of some people.
To be fair the second best FF had an all girl cast.
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Post by: Himu on September 22, 2014, 02:42:40 PM
Anyone who bitches about it silly imo. FF has a long history of female characters. So it's not like GTA or something where the only playable female characters are in 1 and GTA online. You'd have to be hard pressed to be looking for outrage to have a problem with this imo.
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Post by: Positive Touch on September 22, 2014, 03:12:36 PM
is the group in the trailer the only party members you get?
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Post by: Trent Dole on September 22, 2014, 03:15:01 PM
is the group in the trailer the only party members you get?
I seriously doubt it.
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Post by: ZephyrFate on September 22, 2014, 03:35:22 PM
The oldest member of the group is elsewhere.
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Post by: Himu on September 23, 2014, 01:18:33 PM


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"Another example is in the combat," explains Tabata. "With the hardware specifications of the newer consoles, it's possible to set it up so you have different enemies and different choices of attacks you can enter in, but I want to simplify that. It'll basically be a one-button action, and the AI intuitively outputs an action that kind of satisfies, gives you that instant gratification, and it connects with the simple touch of a button. I myself am not getting any younger. I don't want to be frantically pushing buttons. I also want to utilise the intelligence of the hardware spec, and not have to go through too much hassle or trouble in order to execute moves." 


http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-09-22-meet-hajime-tabata-final-fantasys-latest-saviour?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialoomph


???
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Post by: nachobro on September 23, 2014, 10:49:15 PM
Kinda sounds like a streamlined KH thing? I dunno.
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Post by: Himu on September 23, 2014, 10:52:32 PM
Nothing like KH, dude. They've killed off the entire KH gameplay element.

Btw I'm looking @ ff8 mods and I see this in the essential list:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb7MrmXpdxw

It's an FF8 fan dub and it's fucking hilarious. Listen to the grunts and hollow dialogue in the opening. I'm fucking dying. :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Post by: Himu on September 23, 2014, 11:06:05 PM
a single-button context-sensitive action battle system sounds an awful lot like kingdom hearts to me.  saying they've gotten rid of that stuff entirely and then coming out with this reads a lot like the dude denying Dragon Quest Musou is a musou game.

Kingdom Hearts wasn't a single-button action battle system. KH has jumping, gliding;etc. which you use, a lot. It also have maneuvering through menus in the middle of battle, and in higher difficulty modes, if you mash x you'll get creamed. KH utilizes way more than one button, and as said earlier in this page, they have gotten rid of KH's command menu style gameplay, so that's not like KH at all since they've gotten rid of any pretense of playing like KH. Unless of course, you mean that the attack button in KH is used for more than attacking (i.e. well timed attack parries).
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Post by: Himu on September 23, 2014, 11:12:54 PM
What do you guys think about this proposed gif?

(http://giant.gfycat.com/SelfassuredShinyIlsamochadegu.gif)

it seems this is because the return of gambits?


http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=900371

seems to me the game is no longer an action rpg?
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Post by: I'm a Puppy! on September 23, 2014, 11:40:05 PM
Nothing like KH, dude. They've killed off the entire KH gameplay element.

Btw I'm looking @ ff8 mods and I see this in the essential list:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb7MrmXpdxw

It's an FF8 fan dub and it's fucking hilarious. Listen to the grunts and hollow dialogue in the opening. I'm fucking dying. :rofl :rofl :rofl
OMG OMG OMG I...I can't breathe, I can't breathe  :rofl
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Post by: nachobro on September 23, 2014, 11:40:36 PM
I think that'd be cool. How would you do combo attacks in that system though? Maybe O when next to another team member? Or perhaps Square or something so you don't do it by accident.
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Post by: Himu on September 23, 2014, 11:52:02 PM
(http://i.minus.com/inPHyu0thxKJ7.gif)

:rofl
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Post by: Himu on September 23, 2014, 11:55:04 PM
I think that'd be cool. How would you do combo attacks in that system though? Maybe O when next to another team member? Or perhaps Square or something so you don't do it by accident.

People think that combos are gambits.

Set up gambit. Start fighting. Hold x to start gambit combo sequence.
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Post by: Himu on September 24, 2014, 12:37:04 AM
Surprised people aren't talking bout features like the magic system or that monsters that tend to dwell in caves come out at night, forcing your party to camp to scare them away.

http://gematsu.com/2014/09/final-fantasy-xv-director-talks-development-open-world-combat-demo (http://gematsu.com/2014/09/final-fantasy-xv-director-talks-development-open-world-combat-demo)

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Weather has a tactical impact on battle conditions, with different types of magic having varying effects depending on weather patterns. Using fire on a clear day, for example, will not only hurt monsters, but also ignite surrounding area, make allies feel hot, and the like. As such, using magic can be a liability to Noctis, too.

Excited for this game. It sounds cool. I'm just trying to figure out how the battle system works, but I'm sure that there's a miscommunication somewhere. Doesn't help Tabata isn't a PR guy.

Shame people aren't willing to give it a chance and have decided to start complaining about the CASUAL MENACE without realizing the irony that Final Fantasy is the most casual of jrpgs.
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Post by: ZephyrFate on September 24, 2014, 12:54:47 AM
The more Tabata speaks about the battle system the more it seems like a step down from LR's great battle system.
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Post by: Himu on September 24, 2014, 01:28:29 AM
I modded FFVIII and it's fucking beautiful. :tocry the best its ever looked and sounded.

Will make video later!!!
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Post by: El Babua on September 24, 2014, 01:49:32 AM
Cautiously optimistic for FFXV. Hope the gameplay can be half as good s XII. No faith in the story though. Characters have rubbed me the wrong way since they were introduced years ago and its just gotten worse.
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Post by: Himu on September 24, 2014, 04:19:33 AM
These are the results. I'm really impressed. My only issues so far: the stuttering in the intro as well as the clipping of the backgrounds (class room) or the weird black outlines at places like Ifrit's pit. I also have to say I don't like having to go through menus with an analog stick. Is there any way I can get over that? I need a d-pad. Other than that, it's easily the best way to play FF8, assuming mods are used.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uHpjoec0gY

:uguu

Be sure to view in 720p and have the music cranked!

Mods used:

Roses and Wine
SweetFX Shader Enhancement for FFVIII by Lital
Project Eden by Omzy
FMV replacement pack by Kayael

You can find them all here:

http://steamcommunity.com/app/39150/discussions/0/648814213843615508/
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Post by: I'm a Puppy! on September 24, 2014, 11:22:17 AM
Damn, now I'm all excited for my FF series play through. But there's something wrong Himu, you didn't have the voice acting stuff.
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Post by: Himu on September 24, 2014, 12:23:19 PM
lol. totes listening to the best orchestrated FF ost today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHMnTaE7oHo
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Post by: Himu on September 24, 2014, 04:28:09 PM
http://youtu.be/98pKIbcivao

GOAT
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Post by: I'm a Puppy! on September 24, 2014, 05:31:21 PM
Honestly I think VIII behind VI and III is Uematsu's best work.
Although the musicologist in me really loves what he did in FFIX that's more "behind the scenes" than anything else.
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Post by: I'm a Puppy! on September 26, 2014, 10:58:44 AM
I see that screenshot and can only think

"Red! The blood of angry men! Black!"
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Post by: demi on September 26, 2014, 11:08:31 AM
Might as well wait for HD ver.
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Post by: Raban on September 26, 2014, 11:17:28 AM
that sounds awesome Borys I wish I could play that on my PSP too :(

and to answer your question; no, only the PSP 2000 and later support video out
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Post by: Joe Molotov on September 26, 2014, 02:38:49 PM
Might as well wait for HD ver.

Borys playing pirated PSP games on his free PSP like a magus.
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Post by: ZephyrFate on September 26, 2014, 03:41:15 PM
The HD version has not fixed the god awful camera Type-O has. Jesus christ
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Post by: dmj on September 27, 2014, 04:45:14 AM
Himu's vid tickling my nostalgia. Find your Way is one of my favorite tracks from VIII (second to Force Your Way). Now I just wanna listen to FF music.
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Post by: SantaC on September 27, 2014, 07:38:32 AM
Himu's vid tickling my nostalgia. Find your Way is one of my favorite tracks from VIII (second to Force Your Way). Now I just wanna listen to FF music.

FF8 is the best game ever. I loved how powerful you felt in that game.
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Post by: magus on September 27, 2014, 08:24:42 AM
Might as well wait for HD ver.

Borys playing pirated PSP games on his free PSP like a magus.

man you know guys, it's annoying being the butt of everything here, i post something on my terra battle thread and i have to see oscar "hur dur you are poor" i post something on the gamergate thread and "lol at magus feeling like being attacked for playing videogames" i'm not even doing anything here but somehow i'm still getting mentioned

can't i have some love for once? :punch
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Post by: magus on September 27, 2014, 08:39:37 AM
do something worth loving, dude

man fuck you oscar, i'm sick of your assholishness, you'd think someone with a family would have better things to do than being a twat on the internet
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Post by: Himu on September 27, 2014, 08:55:20 AM
Well I love you :heart
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Post by: magus on September 27, 2014, 10:42:03 AM
Ok here magoose: I appreciate your lengthy and thoughtfully written posts on generally unappreciated games. They're very informative, and your passion for the hobby comes through well.

I am not, on the other hand, going to give you high fives for standing up for #libertardgate and/or complaining about hitting a paywall in a f2p game.

i don't want high five but sometimes i feel picked on and it's frustating, can't we just fight each other without resorting to silly nickname and stuff :punch

Urgh I'm gagging from that saccharin

not saying anything else nice for another five years

i... i'm sorry :fbm

Well I love you :heart

and i love you too! you random citizen!
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Post by: Himu on September 27, 2014, 10:43:50 AM
Random...citizen? Eh?
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Post by: SantaC on September 27, 2014, 11:03:42 AM
do something worth loving, dude

man fuck you oscar, i'm sick of your assholishness, you'd think someone with a family would have better things to do than being a twat on the internet

I have a family also
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Post by: magus on September 27, 2014, 11:40:12 AM
Random...citizen? Eh?

it's a quote from megamind that was once used as an internet joke

(http://media.tumblr.com/a1be753ccdc20b57f4d775ab1187352b/tumblr_inline_na892feZoV1s80wip.png)

sorry man, nickname stays. I nickname everyone. right himu-nommy-chan? at least you don't have the nickname I gave Dennis.

whatever, i'm not angry anymore, actualy sorry for crashing this thread guys

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I have a family also

well fuck you and your family too! :maf
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Post by: Positive Touch on September 27, 2014, 11:51:55 AM
if you talked more about boktai and less about pedo shit I wouldn't be forced to be mean
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Post by: magus on September 27, 2014, 11:58:06 AM
if you talked more about boktai and less about pedo shit I wouldn't be forced to be mean

oh sure like it's my fault that kojima is now all busy doing games about vagina bomb's
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Post by: SantaC on September 27, 2014, 12:01:28 PM
Random...citizen? Eh?

it's a quote from megamind that was once used as an internet joke

(http://media.tumblr.com/a1be753ccdc20b57f4d775ab1187352b/tumblr_inline_na892feZoV1s80wip.png)

sorry man, nickname stays. I nickname everyone. right himu-nommy-chan? at least you don't have the nickname I gave Dennis.

whatever, i'm not angry anymore, actualy sorry for crashing this thread guys

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I have a family also

well fuck you and your family too! :maf

I have always been nice to you.
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Post by: magus on September 27, 2014, 12:15:47 PM
Random...citizen? Eh?

it's a quote from megamind that was once used as an internet joke

(http://media.tumblr.com/a1be753ccdc20b57f4d775ab1187352b/tumblr_inline_na892feZoV1s80wip.png)

sorry man, nickname stays. I nickname everyone. right himu-nommy-chan? at least you don't have the nickname I gave Dennis.

whatever, i'm not angry anymore, actualy sorry for crashing this thread guys

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I have a family also

well fuck you and your family too! :maf

I have always been nice to you.

oh! i tought you were telling me because you wanted me to be mean to you too :cody
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Post by: Joe Molotov on September 27, 2014, 02:00:25 PM
magus, I like the way you haven't changed your name 15 times like everyone else here.

Also I like the way you work it, no diggity, I got to bag it up.
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Post by: Raban on September 28, 2014, 10:28:08 PM
so I've been plugging away at Final Fantasy VIII and I've really been enjoying it! This was the first Final Fantasy I ever played but I got stuck shortly after starting disc 2 back when it came out (I was very young and knew nothing of RPGs) but this time around not only do I still love it but I'm rocketing through the game with ease. After playing a lot of different western and eastern RPGs and understanding fundementals like min/maxing, equipment and whatnot, this game still shines with ingenious gamepay design.

My next comment will probably have both haters and lovers of the game against me but I find this title to be in the same dogshed as XIII, insofar as it having a very unique battle system contained in an otherwise forgettable package that leaves the fanbase divided. The complete lack of equipment really shocked me at first, but once you start getting into GF abilities and how much they can alter your gameplay experience you start to see into the game's philosophy and how it wants you to play. My choices with regards to junctioning started getting so tactical that when the occasional tutorial popped up to explain one thing or another, it's hours late to something I was well into exploiting.

Stuff like ENC-None, MD-Mag-RF, and other abilities really empower you as the player and make a significant difference in the battles, as well as having the option to draw from any and everything you might face to further increase your options when you're armpits deep in menu-fu. To be fair I can see how that could alienate some, but what I love about this series is how different every game is and this one gets extra kudos for not only being different from FF at large, but being unique as an RPG in its own right.

I just got to the part where Balamb Garden lifts off. While I find the story to be mostly aimless, incoherent, and sophomoric, I haven't found any different in the FF titles from 7 onward and it doesn't detract from my experience but rather offers light hearted breaks in the action. I don't really find any of the Laguna sideplot interesting in the slightest and everything except Squall's development as a more headstrong leader is sleep-inducing at best.

Regardless, I don't plan on stopping anytime soon and I hope this will be the first FF I see through to the end. My party is powerful where it's at, I picked up Diablos as soon as I got the magical lamp, scored Carbuncle, but missed Brothers sadly (though I think I can go back for them?). I'll update y'all if I make it to the third disc.

Oh and the music is kickass :rock

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Post by: Positive Touch on September 28, 2014, 10:32:43 PM
raban gets it
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Post by: I'm a Puppy! on September 28, 2014, 10:55:06 PM
I have always HATED when people counter criticisms of their games with "Well, you just don't know how to play it."

But with FFVIII, that's actually very true. I get people's problems with it, but if you do a little bit of thinking it's a really really great game and has tons of features every game should have.
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Post by: ZephyrFate on September 28, 2014, 10:57:34 PM
It's also a really really awful game with a dogshit plot, Michael Bay-esque character development, and a functionally broken gameplay system that can be abused and taken to the woodshed within just a few games of cards.
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Post by: Himu on September 28, 2014, 10:59:34 PM
Also, even though the story is sophomoric, the story pacing is GOAT. You go from a mercenary mission in faux Paris to a train mission, two flashbacks starring Laguna, a witch assassination, a prison break, a missile base stealth mission, an infighting war over leadership at the garden, and then the garden war at the end of the season disc. FF8 is action set piece after set piece, and full of memorable moments, so saying it's a forgettable package seem incorrect given that in VII you're chasing some boring fucker half the game.

FF8's pacing impresses me every damn time I play it and even if the story is fucking stupid, the lore and history always keep me interested. I mean, it's a game where children are turned into pmc's and no one bats an eye. Shit is fucking normal. Fascinating.
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Post by: I'm a Puppy! on September 28, 2014, 10:59:42 PM
It's also a really really awful game with a dogshit plot, Michael Bay-esque character development, and a functionally broken gameplay system that can be abused and taken to the woodshed within just a few games of cards.
dat visual style tho
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Post by: Himu on September 28, 2014, 11:00:27 PM
It's also a really really awful game with a dogshit plot, Michael Bay-esque character development, and a functionally broken gameplay system that can be abused and taken to the woodshed within just a few games of cards.

:umad
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Post by: Himu on September 28, 2014, 11:06:22 PM
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WzKHWdVMsag

:rejoice
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Post by: Raban on September 28, 2014, 11:44:14 PM
It's also a really really awful game with a dogshit plot, Michael Bay-esque character development, and a functionally broken gameplay system that can be abused and taken to the woodshed within just a few games of cards.
yeah I don't get that. haven't played a single game of triple triad and the game is still perfectly balanced and fun when you make smart decisions about which GF abilities to acquire and junctioning magic/abilities consistently. I agree with your criticisms of the fiction, tho.

Also, even though the story is sophomoric, the story pacing is GOAT. You go from a mercenary mission in faux Paris to a train mission, two flashbacks starring Laguna, a witch assassination, a prison break, a missile base stealth mission, an infighting war over leadership at the garden, and then the garden war at the end of the season disc. FF8 is action set piece after set piece, and full of memorable moments, so saying it's a forgettable package seem incorrect given that in VII you're chasing some boring fucker half the game.

FF8's pacing impresses me every damn time I play it and even if the story is fucking stupid, the lore and history always keep me interested. I mean, it's a game where children are turned into pmc's and no one bats an eye. Shit is fucking normal. Fascinating.
yeah I'll admit the pacing is enjoyable, with the setpiece-to-setpiece comment definitely ringing true. You get boss battles out the anus too so you still feel engaged without ever fighting the boring field battles. I just find it unsettling that the plots of FF games start from such meagre beginnings and spiral out into save-the-universe epics with such agility and no logical explanation to carry you there. You'd think for a game series where the average length is in the dozens of hours that they'd be slower burns but instead you get a really front-loaded story with terribly drawn out second and third acts.
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Post by: Himu on September 29, 2014, 12:03:44 AM
FFX is the FF to play if you want story in my opinion. It's about defeating Sin from beginning to end. It doesn't even matter if you beat Sin or not. sin's been there for one thousand years already, so even if you lose, nothing will change from the beginning of the game since Sin is already a pervasive presence. Every other FF except VI gets stupid as shit. X keeps it moving.

This is another area where Dragon Quest stomps the shit out of FF. FF tards give DQ shit because the stories are simple, but DQ uses this as an advantage. You can be simple and yet well told. FF is neither.

And this is why FFVIII a kicks ass. It gets stupid but goddamit, what an action packed rpg. MORE PLEASE.
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Post by: Raban on September 29, 2014, 12:07:41 AM
Yeah I'll definitely get back to X but having played it up to where you fight Seymour the second time I remember having the same issues about things exploding from personal to anything but in the story. Knowing how the game ends though I guess it comes back full circle to being about Tidus and his father but iirc there's still a lot of nonsensical story beats in-between.

EDIT: To be fair I don't come to FF for its story. Just like I can forgive Other M and MGS' batshit insane writing for the stronger elements within, FF has always charmed me with downright awe-inspiring production values (even when you play the older games it's apparent that no other game holds a candle to it for the era), enchanting music, and personally I love all the memorable and colorful character designs, no matter how outrageously impractical they are.
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Post by: Himu on September 29, 2014, 12:08:23 AM
It's also a really really awful game with a dogshit plot, Michael Bay-esque character development, and a functionally broken gameplay system that can be abused and taken to the woodshed within just a few games of cards.
yeah I don't get that. haven't played a single game of triple triad and the game is still perfectly balanced and fun when you make smart decisions about which GF abilities to acquire and junctioning magic/abilities consistently. I agree with your criticisms of the fiction, tho.

Also, even though the story is sophomoric, the story pacing is GOAT. You go from a mercenary mission in faux Paris to a train mission, two flashbacks starring Laguna, a witch assassination, a prison break, a missile base stealth mission, an infighting war over leadership at the garden, and then the garden war at the end of the season disc. FF8 is action set piece after set piece, and full of memorable moments, so saying it's a forgettable package seem incorrect given that in VII you're chasing some boring fucker half the game.

FF8's pacing impresses me every damn time I play it and even if the story is fucking stupid, the lore and history always keep me interested. I mean, it's a game where children are turned into pmc's and no one bats an eye. Shit is fucking normal. Fascinating.
yeah I'll admit the pacing is enjoyable, with the setpiece-to-setpiece comment definitely ringing true. You get boss battles out the anus too so you still feel engaged without ever fighting the boring field battles. I just find it unsettling that the plots of FF games start from such meagre beginnings and spiral out into save-the-universe epics with such agility and no logical explanation to carry you there. You'd think for a game series where the average length is in the dozens of hours that they'd be slower burns but instead you get a really front-loaded story with terribly drawn out second and third acts.

That's why the FF8 is broken criticisms are always silly to me. You can break every FF. If you're breaking the game in a matter of minutes that should honestly be reflected on the player. You can break FFVI in literally minutes. I can use a JP glitch in FFT and gain 99999999 job points and max whole classes in less than 30 minutes. Bububu cards.
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Post by: demi on September 29, 2014, 12:15:56 AM
cool we're back to the "all games can be broken" talk
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Post by: Raban on September 29, 2014, 12:17:16 AM
:badass
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Post by: Himu on September 29, 2014, 12:22:46 AM
:lol You can blame Zephyr for that. :yeshrug I'm not interested in talking about it beyond that point.

Any who, one thing I've always thought FF did were worlds more so than stories. Their stories are stupid. But their worlds are a fascinating mix of sci-fi, fantasy, and in the 3d entries, modernity. The worlds often have cool cultures and ideas. But the thing is, I think that's true for most games and especially rpgs. Like, Skyrim's story is pretty lol but dammit, if the lore doesn't get hot. When it comes to games, usually it's a good idea to assume that the game world > the game story. Sad, but true. I'm not sure how that even works out.
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Post by: Himu on September 29, 2014, 12:32:36 AM
That's because we can't talk about FF8 without zephyr saying he hates it.

:yeshrug
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Post by: Raban on September 29, 2014, 12:33:27 AM
i swear to god half of the FF talk on the bore is arguing about ff8
well it's the most homoerotic FF until FFXV comes out. it makes sense.

@himu stop blaming zeph, I'm cool with that dude.
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Post by: Himu on September 29, 2014, 12:38:21 AM
I'd say 14 is pretty gay given the pics that have been posted in this thread. :obama

I love Zeph he knows im just giving him shit
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Post by: Himu on September 29, 2014, 12:54:37 AM
re: worlds vs story, i think it's because most games are made by gamers, and it's highly likely most rpgs are made by people who are interested in rpgs.

making a great game world requires excellent descriptions of systems and objects working together in a sensible way. i'd argue the ff games didn't start doing this well until ff6 (kitase), by the way, but after that, it's been one of the series' few standout points.

a good story, on the other hand, requires believable, complex human beings interacting and reacting without falling into idiotic tropes literally 100% of the time.

if i may broadly stereotype, the average RPG fan, and thus the average RPG creator, has a lot of skill at thinking up detailed, functional systems, but not much skill at socializing and understanding real human beings. and even if they do differ from that type, the audience is believed to fit it to a tee and stereotypical shitty characters end up shoved in by the suits anyway.

:obama
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on September 29, 2014, 12:58:35 AM
14 has love for everyone. Even has an upcoming marriage system that doesn't discriminate by race or gender.  :heart

One of my favorite FF stories is actuallly 5's. Amidst all the melodramatic nonsense that FF's tried to do since the second game, FF5 is relatively light hearted and plays up the comedic factor as "we're aware that this is a video game, let's just have fun with it." Ex. Everything that has to do with Gilgamesh.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Which ends up making a sharp contrast when Exdeath finally gets introduced and starts killing off people and destroying towns left and right.
[close]

Really wish there were easier ways to play FF5 in English without having to brave the piracy waters for a GBA copy, playing the awful PS1 version or stabbing your eyes out with the Mobile version.
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Post by: Himu on September 29, 2014, 01:01:47 AM
Gilgamesh :rejoice :rofl

sunblade, buy a gpa sp and a copy of FFV.
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on September 29, 2014, 01:02:07 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/eEtwYOq.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/C2tXvFd.png)

 :bow FF5 :bow2
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Post by: Himu on September 29, 2014, 01:03:18 AM
:bow :bow :bow
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Post by: ZephyrFate on September 29, 2014, 01:06:43 AM
It's also a really really awful game with a dogshit plot, Michael Bay-esque character development, and a functionally broken gameplay system that can be abused and taken to the woodshed within just a few games of cards.
dat visual style tho
Like FFXIII, the visual style would be great if it wasn't an incoherent mish-mash of aesthetic design all over the place. FF8 was clearly developed with no real solid vision. Thankfully, FFIX was much better at that.
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on September 29, 2014, 01:08:07 AM
sunblade, buy a gpa sp and a copy of FFV.

Already have both! I've done the Four Job Fiesta for a few years now on my GBA copy (cept for one year where I piled up the challenges way too much and wasn't having fun). Got Thief and Berserker as my first two jobs this year and it was hell.  :maf I was just mentioning that I wish other people couple play FF5 easier. I'd like to retire my gba sp some day.

I mentioned before that I don't do rankings, but FF5 is my GOAT FF. Can never get tired of how flexible the game is at letting you play it however the hell you want.
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Post by: Himu on September 29, 2014, 01:09:55 AM
I'm the same way with 8, 12, and 5. :rejoice OPTIONS :rejoice
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Post by: Raban on September 29, 2014, 01:17:29 AM
I have a legit copy of V on GBA, will play on my Micro or GBPlayer some day.

And man I wanna get into IX so bad but the battle system is boring, cookie-cutter garbage. iirc there's no gimmicks or stat customization at all, just DQ style linear stat-ups and characters locked in classes. Yawn.

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Post by: Himu on September 29, 2014, 01:20:41 AM
raban, 5 also has three female main characters, and they all kick ass. one is a pirate who pretends to be a man and shit. best ever
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Post by: ZephyrFate on September 29, 2014, 02:47:22 AM
Krile is the only one I dislike. But also i think that name that is awful.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on October 02, 2014, 02:23:25 PM
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“If I had to pick, I am a person more on the dark side like Xehanort and co., I harness the burning anger in my heart into what I create,” said Nomura. “Kingdom Hearts III’s current development explodes very much in this sense. Each time, it’s a battle with Sora and co. who are the exact opposite of myself, it’s been over 10 years and yet we haven’t reached a conclusion.

“This battle will surely last longer.

“In Kingdom Hearts III as well, I am scheming many challenges that Sora and his friends must overcome, because I myself cannot lose either. And in preparation for the great battle that lies ahead, we have this one book that looks back on their entire journey.”

http://www.novacrystallis.com/2014/10/nomura-is-harnessing-his-burning-anger-into-kingdom-hearts-iii/

:what  :holeup Tetsuya has gone insane.


Meanwhile Tabata continues to be awesome

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Tabata is definitely aware of the internet, at least. He found those pictures of Noctis and crew looking at stuff hilarious, so they gave out several other renders you can use to photoshop stuff with.

(http://i.imgur.com/WzYl5J2.png)
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Post by: ZephyrFate on October 02, 2014, 02:38:10 PM
anyone who likes FFT should pick up Tactics maiden for iOS
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Post by: Himu on October 02, 2014, 04:11:44 PM
FFXV battle presentation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md7GhVH3vUg

Tabata says he wants to do something like this monthly to show fan progress
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Post by: Himu on October 02, 2014, 05:13:08 PM
Apparently holding the dodge button consumes mp so you can't do it indefinitely
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Post by: Raban on October 04, 2014, 02:28:50 PM
FFXV looks like a game I'd at least want to try, but on the surface is perhaps the most unappealing Final Fantasy I have ever seen. Normally I'm hype as fuck for a new mainline FF (that Agni's Philosophy tech demo had me hitting replay for a solid hour), but everything about XV looks bland and also-ran. Where are the colorful costumes, the wealth of unique character designs, the otherworldly landscapes? All we've seen is a handful of nigh-identical young men clad in black leather from head to toe traipsing around a very stock-looking open field or city environment. This is the kinda shit I'd expect from a FF spinoff, not a mainline entry.

Say what you will about FFXIII but at least the preview materials inspired more wonder and featured more imaginative design than what we're getting here.

Don't get me wrong I'm not totally down on this game, at least the music is still gorgeous.
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Post by: Cascade on October 04, 2014, 02:40:40 PM
FFXV looks like a game I'd at least want to try, but on the surface is perhaps the most unappealing Final Fantasy I have ever seen. Normally I'm hype as fuck for a new mainline FF (that Agni's Philosophy tech demo had me hitting replay for a solid hour), but everything about XV looks bland and also-ran. Where are the colorful costumes, the wealth of unique character designs, the otherworldly landscapes? All we've seen is a handful of nigh-identical young men clad in black leather from head to toe traipsing around a very stock-looking open field or city environment. This is the kinda shit I'd expect from a FF spinoff, not a mainline entry.

Say what you will about FFXIII but at least the preview materials inspired more wonder and featured more imaginative design than what we're getting here.

Don't get me wrong I'm not totally down on this game, at least the music is still gorgeous.
This is a FF spinoff.
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Post by: Himu on October 04, 2014, 02:52:00 PM
I like it because it reminds me of FFVIII.

Also XIII looked like ass to me before release. I didn't see any sense of wonder or imagination with that game. The reveal trailer was some chick jumping into some boring sci-fi building fighting sci-fi soldiers.

What do you mean by otherworldly landscapes? FFVII and VIII aren't otherwordly for the most part and those otherwordly elements are almost never advertised in pre-release material of Final Fantasy because that stuff tends to occur ways into the story. It also depends on the entry itself. They both feature modern tech with a modern looking cast mixed with a unique blend of sci-fi and fantastical magic. That's what I'm seeing in XV. Don't see why anyone sees anything different. Looks like the same shit to me. Considering that XIII had zero artistic direction cohesion, XII was set in a high fantasy post-medieval setting, X was in a post apocalyptic tropical/islander setting, and IX was steam punk, I welcome it. Looks different yet familiar and looks to have 10000x the visual flair of 13.
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Post by: Raban on October 04, 2014, 03:28:35 PM
Yes, why would anyone see something differently than you? ::)

I feel like writing counterpoints to your post would be futile in helping you see my perspective on this, but here goes nothing.
I like it because it reminds me of FFVIII.
How? Only Squall wore a black outfit, the cast was varied and each character had a unique silhouette that made them distinct from the rest of the cast in more ways than just hairstyle.

Also XIII looked like ass to me before reveal. I didn't see any sense of wonder or imagination with that game. The reveal trailer was some chick jumping into some boring sci-fi building fighting sci-fi soldiers.
Before reveal? what does that mean? iirc the reveal trailer showed Cocoon, a massive city in the sky with abstract and colorful architecture. "some chick"? are you trying to sound as obtuse and ignorant as you can? Say what you will about her character but her design is pure badass. Finally a leading lady in games without excessive ass/cleavage. Even the co-star woman from the previous title, Ashe, despite being a great character, displays all kinds of ass in her key art.
What do you mean by otherworldly landscapes? FFVII and VIII aren't otherwordly for the most part and those otherwordly elements are almost never advertised in pre-release material of Final Fantasy because that stuff tends to occur ways into the story. They both feature modern tech with a modern looking cast mixed with a unique blend of sci-fi and fantastical magic. That's what I'm seeing in XV.
I don't agree with the comparison to VIII. Balamb Garden has a very alien design with the holographic elements and colorful, curved surfaces, ditto for many of the locales. Comparing it to VII seems apt though, maybe that's what they were going for with XV's art design. Both feature drab metropolitan environments and an emphasis on dark, machine-like backdrops. However VII had a decidedly more H.R. Giger flavor to it where XV appears to have no artistic influence beyond maybe an iteration of the boring garbage seen in Advent Children.

Look Hims, I know you're probably hype for this game, but try not to crawl up my ass when I want to make criticisms about what they're showing. Don't just pretend my points are invalid because you disagree with them.
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Post by: ZephyrFate on October 04, 2014, 03:38:40 PM
Yeah, Lightning's XIII design is solid as fuck. Easily my favorite female character design in the series.
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Post by: magus on October 04, 2014, 03:56:24 PM
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How? Only Squall wore a black outfit

well that blonde guy annoys me as much as zell

and he only appeared in like 5 minutes in the trailers!
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Post by: ZephyrFate on October 04, 2014, 04:03:16 PM
Zell was one of two worthwhile characters in all of FFVIII. Get outta here.
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Post by: Himu on October 04, 2014, 04:57:24 PM
Hmmm, that post wasn't really meant to be as antagonistic as you thought it was.


How? Only Squall wore a black outfit, the cast was varied and each character had a unique silhouette that made them distinct from the rest of the cast in more ways than just hairstyle.

You're concentrating on color too much as opposed to what they're actually wearing. FFVIII is pretty contemporary. You can buy Squall's jacket now for 200 dollars. When FF8 came out, the same jorts Zell wore were pretty popular. Selphie's dress is something you can buy right now at a Thrift Shop for 20 dollars. Similarly, the clothing of XV's cast is pretty relatable, much like with 8. You've got suits and collared shirts and jeans cars and relatable technology that fits within our modern world. Noctis wears shorts and a basic black open shirt. I can buy that right fucking now at my local clothings store. Similarly, in VIII and to a lesser extent, VII, the characters wear clothes that fit the times: suits, black shorts with white t-shirts. I namely say 8, because 7 still has fantasy elements: the armor on Cloud's shoulder, never mind his belt. Vincent's entire attire. VIII goes the full gamut, and its main characters and npcs are people who wear regular clothing, more or less.

More than that, the characters are all pretty identifiable beyond haircut. Prompto doesn't look anywhere near like Gladiolus, for example. You've said that XV lacks any artistic vision when you've ignored the crucial and very deliberate fact that the good guys wear black.

(http://i.imgur.com/d2z3gzj.jpg)

Bad guys wear white.

(http://i.imgur.com/LrGSGWm.jpg)

So the black outfits actually serves a purpose beyond looking cool.

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Before reveal? what does that mean? iirc the reveal trailer showed Cocoon, a massive city in the sky with abstract and colorful architecture. "some chick"? are you trying to sound as obtuse and ignorant as you can? Say what you will about her character but her design is pure badass. Finally a leading lady in games without excessive ass/cleavage. Even the co-star woman from the previous title, Ashe, despite being a great character, displays all kinds of ass in her key art.

Meant before release. Have no idea why "some chick" would make you mad. Lightning isn't special, especially in FF. I love her design, it is great, I agree. But there have been more than a few Final Fantasy female lead characters that don't show ass. The best of which, Yuna, is covered pretty much from shoulder to toe in a conservative kimono. Other lead female characters, like Lenna, Faris, Terra, Celes, Aertih, Rinoa, Garnet (though she does have a donk) aren't showing off their butts at all, and acting like Lightning is some revolutionary design or even character for a series full of strong, kick assing ladies feels wrong, and is insulting to the franchise.

RE: Cocoon, I never liked the design of the place. It's too busy, too what the fuck. It's like they put a bunch of abstract crap on it just to make it look cool. I never liked the art direction for XIII, ever, and find that it has the worst character designs in the series. Snow's design is terrible. Hope's design is mediocre. Vanille's design is mediocre. Zazh's design is boring despite being a great character. Fang's design kicks ass.  I love Serah's design. I like what's her face Villain who dies too soon's design a lot. I think that's about it. XV's designs appeal to me more, is all.

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I don't agree with the comparison to VIII. Balamb Garden has a very alien design with the holographic elements and colorful, curved surfaces, ditto for many of the locales. Comparing it to VII seems apt though, maybe that's what they were going for with XV's art design. Both feature drab metropolitan environments and an emphasis on dark, machine-like backdrops.

Balamb Garden, while looking somewhat distinct, but it's hardly indicative for the entire game. Especially when we consider what's INSIDE the Garden's.

Classrooms.

(http://i.imgur.com/guPewwS.jpg)

Skating rinks.

(http://i.imgur.com/p4wsmDx.jpg)

Basketball courts.

(http://i.imgur.com/rrpLKlq.jpg)

Again. Relatable. Modern. Stylized, yet most decidedly contemporary.

The same is for the towns pre-Esther.

Newspaper/magazine offices.

(http://i.imgur.com/VTBK8l0.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/RKuljcy.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/FmZ6IdR.jpg)

Large modern hotels.

(http://i.imgur.com/kxgA0cy.jpg)

A place where you can take the train.

(http://i.imgur.com/eadfXTf.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/akvevVx.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/IdYiZM5.png)

Or drive a car.

(http://i.imgur.com/lQfa5bv.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/6DPJvlr.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/3pBZaRE.jpg)

Oops wrong game. :yeshrug


This is...otherworldly to you? It's modern and stylish with a mix of sci-fi and fantasy. Like every FF. So you should probably give XV the benefit of the doubt because those sci-fi/fantastical elements are rarely shown in FF's pre-release.


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However VII had a decidedly more H.R. Giger flavor to it where XV appears to have no artistic influence beyond maybe an iteration of the boring garbage seen in Advent Children.

VII has only two cities in the entire game. Two. One of which you don't have access to for 3/4 of the game. the majority of it that you DO see is nothing but ghetto, spray paint, and garbage on the ground; the other, a high tech city with a giant cannon. VIII is chock full of cities that are similar to what we've seen so far in XV.

As for saying XV has no artistic influence, that just comes off as hyperbole, sorry. Lots of FF8 haters HATE this directly BECAUSE they find it so realistic.

You should probably wait for new info. Saying that a game that's been in development for 2 years, been in development hell, and just recently got playable gameplay and saying it has no artistic vision sounds...pretty silly and highly premature. Especially since the art direction is in the same area as the title you're currently playing. We don't know enough about FFXV to say anything about its more fantastical elements, but stuff like that is always revealed later on in the pre-release FF hype (if at all). So far, what we've seen is the equivalent of a demo. We haven't seen any towns or cities outside of the main one, and we haven't seen ACTUAL gameplay (i.e. exploration not just battles) footage from even within THAT.

I wasn't trying to be an ass at all. I actually think you were more of an ass I was supposedly being. Especially after you got mad when I called a fictional character "some chick" as if she's an actual person.
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on October 04, 2014, 10:13:34 PM
I really don't see how FF15 looks bland and also ran. While sure FF8 exists, it sure never seemed to be as cohesivly fantasy modern as everything shown in 15 so far. 15 does really look like a modern fantasy. Kind of like The Secret World or Vampires The Masquarde only of course with a Japanese eye and far more whimsical. Modern fantasy is so overlooked in video games so this is cool to me and also very fresh for FF. There's really nothing quite like it form what I've seen. What other big games seem to be to taking Italian sensibilities and mixing them with Japanese ones? Not many. So, so far to me 15 looks rather unique and very focused.

I think all the characters look good. Sure they all seemed to reflect what will be thier troupy character types, but at least I'm getting a sense of character from them. I didn't really get a sense of character from most of XIII's designs and I'm one of that game's biggest fans. I loved the art and designs from XIII, but I like the more restrained 15 as well. I do think it sucks that they all were black, but I do like thier relatable outfits.

Where are the otherworld landscapes?

I don't know, this place looks cool.

(http://robotsgonebad.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/RGB_E3-2013_FFXV-Castle.jpg)
Still I get what you mean. Yet, from the recent stuff we've only seen that courtyard of a very euro fantasy mixed with skyscrapers city and an open viking feeling green field. I feel like the fields may be like old FF world maps in that they won't be too crazy and will link you to the more interesting places. Who know's really. The fields looked nice to me regardless.

I don't know. I think 15 looks good and Tabata's outreach is reassuring.
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Post by: Positive Touch on October 04, 2014, 10:21:02 PM
I fucking love screenshots
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Post by: Himu on October 04, 2014, 10:23:33 PM
That pic you posted is not otherwordly but I do agree that XV is more in the direction of modern fantasy than even VIII. But remember that VIII's more fantastical and sci-fi elements did not come until the third disc and weren't really in promotional materials. The same could be true for XV.
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Post by: Himu on October 04, 2014, 10:31:00 PM
Also one thing I love about XV's trailers is that we get to see the characters personalities and it actually feels like they're best friends. XII's cast felt forced because the game wasn't even supposed to be about vaan and their goal isn't concrete the whole game. XIII's cast is terribly underdeveloped and never feels like a unified team. We haven't had an FF where it felt like the cast was natural since x. Until you count X-2. In the trailers for XV, they're already showing signs of being 1000x more interesting than XIII's. More than that, the premise of the game is a road trip rpg. That in itself is unique and should leave for interesting character situations.

Also reiterating Rah. Modern fantasy PLEASE. Fuck sci-fi and fuck traditional fantasy settings. Rpgs wore those settings out such a long time ago and it annoys me that even now that's the go to. And then when some developer has the courage to make a game that's modern, people call it generic. :yeshrug I don't get it.
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Post by: Lucretius on October 12, 2014, 12:32:14 PM
So I got all my tank raid gear from the first Binding Coil of Bahamut in FFXIV.
And I got my warbear mount for tanking 200 high level, 8-player raids.

(http://i.imgur.com/EuzrGdv.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/kolFeJF.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Zy4X8tk.jpg)
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Post by: Himu on October 12, 2014, 12:40:30 PM
Cool as hell
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Post by: Lucretius on October 12, 2014, 12:44:56 PM
Cool as hell

I love FFXIV so much.  There are four more raids I haven't stepped foot in yet.  The Second Binding Coil of Bahamut.  Going to start doing that soon.  Although I really prefer the look of the tank armor from the first Coil (the armor I'm wearing) to the stuff from Second Coil.

I'm on the Brynhildr server if anyone ever wants to meet up on there. 
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Post by: Positive Touch on October 12, 2014, 02:07:38 PM
fuck it soon as I fix my computer I'm buying this
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Post by: Lucretius on October 12, 2014, 02:21:00 PM
fuck it soon as I fix my computer I'm buying this

It's fun as hell.
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Post by: Positive Touch on October 12, 2014, 04:17:25 PM
http://youtu.be/XwamV1fbYQk
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on October 12, 2014, 04:25:38 PM
I guess it's fun as hell if you like playing the most generic mmo stuff possible.
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Post by: Positive Touch on October 12, 2014, 05:57:28 PM
I image the fun will go up exponentially if you have a final fantasy boner
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on October 12, 2014, 06:03:54 PM
Nope, that did'nt help make the terrible and boring quest design feel like anything other then a low rent WoW clone.
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Post by: demi on October 12, 2014, 07:30:02 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KztZmZDNCVg
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Post by: Lucretius on October 13, 2014, 04:08:04 AM
Nope, that did'nt help make the terrible and boring quest design feel like anything other then a low rent WoW clone.

How far did you play?  Did you get into any of the endgame raids/trials?
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Post by: Damian79 on October 13, 2014, 06:20:46 AM
Same thing could be said of Wildstar apparently.  You are never going to convince him the game is good when the lead up to the end game is horrible like Wildstar.
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on October 13, 2014, 07:44:46 PM
Since Lucretius started it, I may as well post my own character in different jobs.

My main job, Paladin:
(http://i.imgur.com/0SPkZBxl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/0SPkZBx)

Bard cosplaying as Amon

(http://i.imgur.com/bw55Rkxl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/bw55Rkx)

Spooky Scary Black Mages

(http://i.imgur.com/8PTxECol.jpg) (http://imgur.com/8PTxECo)

Scholar reading a Moogle book

(http://i.imgur.com/zUUYOk5l.jpg) (http://imgur.com/zUUYOk5)

Summoner disagreeing with his pet

(http://i.imgur.com/T1bWkgRl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/T1bWkgR)

White Mage riding his steed on the beach

(http://i.imgur.com/luiAIX6l.jpg) (http://imgur.com/luiAIX6)

Paladin with slightly better riding privileges

(http://i.imgur.com/yQbFjb7l.jpg) (http://imgur.com/yQbFjb7)
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Post by: Himu on October 13, 2014, 11:41:18 PM
a behemoth mount :uguu
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Post by: Lucretius on October 14, 2014, 09:33:41 AM
Very nice!  I main Dragoon. But have been focusing on my Warrior lately.
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Post by: demi on October 14, 2014, 10:08:40 AM
And having one of the most abusable Limit Breaks in the game
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Post by: ZephyrFate on October 14, 2014, 06:53:57 PM
Zell was one of two worthwhile characters in all of FFVIII. Get outta here.

Zell's defining characteristics were, in order, liking hot dogs, and being a complete moron.
Surprisingly, that's ALL it takes.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Rahxephon91 on October 15, 2014, 07:08:27 PM
I have an i90 Monk, Paladin, Black Mage, Summoner, and Scholar. I haven't done a lot of end game, but I have done some stuff. I'm not saying its terrible. Yeah, the dungeons and boss battles are fun, make no mistake. I just think the game has plenty of problems.

(http://i.imgur.com/aZ78ZDX.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/QXNdpzg.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/c7eUAlb.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/R7PFDiA.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/x0lhAO9.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on October 17, 2014, 04:33:45 AM
Trailer for FFXIV patch 2.4 - Dreams of Ice

http://youtu.be/QbiFK4tcz9w

dat fenrir
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: SpeedStats on October 18, 2014, 07:38:31 PM
Watching these FF14 panel streams for a bit today and I get a pretty good impression that the FF14 ARR team is fairly organic, organized, and know pretty much what they're doing.  I was saying to Sunblade earlier that it seems as though that's exactly where the humour in the company probably went.  The EN/JP sides seem to communicate a lot and they seem to do it fairly well without people holding their cards super-close to their chests.

Also Masayoshi Soken, one of the composers, is giving me strong strong Tak Fujii/Swery65 vibes and I love it.  http://www.twitch.tv/finalfantasyxiv/b/579447058?t=2h49m50s

The team mostly looks like they get along and you can mostly tell that they're organized via answers they give at the panels or even the game itself.  You look at some of the other recent FF games in comparison and you get the feeling that they aren't completely cohesive, and as we know from postmortems of any game ever, that might be a fair indicator of a development team that doesn't communicate very well with each other. 

Makes me want to pick up FF14 for a bit but no time yet.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on October 18, 2014, 09:27:48 PM
The FF14 team are the sole reason i still have some faith within SE's dev teams. I'd play an offline mainline title/spin-off developed by them (if they weren't already tied up with FF14 for the forseeable future).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZZDnlAg3Pk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkzegnsEiv8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Te0JdP5dgk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vhr2mLhmdR4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8GoWutdxm4

 :bow Soken :bow2
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on October 23, 2014, 11:13:40 AM
OK, my run through of the series has finally begun. I want to play through all the non-online mainlines in the series. What are the definitive versions of each? Keep in mind I'm not necessarily interested in post game content unless it's really compelling so far here's my list


Final Fantasy I (currently playing anniversary edition on PSP)
Final Fantasy 2 (PSP anniversary edition)
Final Fantasy 3 (3DS? Or emulate?)
Final Fantasy 4 (3DS? Or Complete on PSP? Should I bother with the after years stuff?)
Final Fantasy 5 (Playstation)
Final Fantasy 6 (Playstation or GBA?)
Final Fantasy 7 (Playstation)
Final Fantasy 8 (Playstation - I'd do steam but I like playing on my PSP for portablity)
Final Fantasy 9 (Playstation)
Final Fantasy 10 (Currently playing HD collection on PS3)
Final Fantasy 12 (Completed - Zodiac edition - the only way this game is palatable to me)
Final Fantasy 13 (Completed - thank god I'm not doing off shoot games)
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on October 23, 2014, 11:42:49 AM
Final Fantasy I - Origins PSX
Final Fantasy 2 - PSP
Final Fantasy 3 - NES version, ds version is garbo
Final Fantasy 4 - Depends, ds version is good but psp version is also good. ds version revamps the game so if you've played 4 and are knowledgeable about it, go for that if you want a great remix. The game is now on Steam. If you just want FF4, go for the psp version.
Final Fantasy 5 - GBA
Final Fantasy 6 - GBA or SNES or GBA with SNES music patch
Final Fantasy 7 - PSX or Steam
Final Fantasy 8 - PSX or Steam
Final Fantasy 9 - PSX
Final Fantasy 10 - HD Remaster
Final Fantasy 12 - International
Final Fantasy 13 - PS3
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 23, 2014, 11:55:39 AM
Just play I - IV & VII - IX on the PSP, and V & VI on the GBA.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on October 23, 2014, 12:04:58 PM
Play all of them on psp.

I - psx classic
II - PSP
III - emulate nes rom
IV - psp
V - emulate gba rom
VI - emulate gba rom
VII - psx classic
VIII - psx classic
IX - psx classic
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on October 23, 2014, 12:15:31 PM
why is the PSX version of FF1 preferrable to the PSP one?
I played the PSX version when it came out, but I haven't played the PSP one before. What's the difference?
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on October 23, 2014, 12:21:05 PM
PSP one is based on the gba one. I haven't played the psp one but the gba one is terrible, boring, and horrifically easy. I beat the gba version without dying. It's the easiest FF I have ever played and that's saying something. It's awful. PSX version is the best version of FF1.
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Post by: archnemesis on October 23, 2014, 12:23:47 PM
I really like the PSP version of FF1. It's easy and you can blast through it in less than 8 hours. The PSP version of FF2 is good too.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: archnemesis on October 23, 2014, 01:26:41 PM
I have a few spare minutes, so here is a complete list.

Final Fantasy I - PSP
Final Fantasy 2 - PSP
Final Fantasy 3 - I would play the NES version since I haven't played that before, and I really didn't enjoy the NDS version.
Final Fantasy 4 - PSP
Final Fantasy 5 - PS1 or GBA (I got ⅔ through both and one of them has an awful translation)
Final Fantasy 6 - GBA or SNES (the PS1 version has annoying load times)
Final Fantasy 7 (PS1)
Final Fantasy 8 (PS1)
Final Fantasy 9 (PS1 via emulation to speed it up)
Final Fantasy 10 (Vita or PS3 for the remastered version)
Final Fantasy 12 (Zodiac edition)
Final Fantasy 13 (Get the Steam versions)
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on October 23, 2014, 01:29:00 PM
ff3 remake sucks

keep in mind that ff3 isn't a really good game to begin with
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 23, 2014, 02:43:36 PM
GBA roms play like shite on the PSP, Himu. I tried playing FFV, and I was only able to stand it's herky-jerkiness for about 5 minutes.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Positive Touch on October 23, 2014, 03:03:26 PM
ps1 version has the original difficulty; psp is version is neutered to the point of boredom

also the new content sucks
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Post by: Positive Touch on October 23, 2014, 03:05:16 PM
himu's first list is ideal, altho I'd recommend the ios versions of v & vi. purists hate the hi-res graphics, but seriously they look fine, and the sound is much better than the gba versions.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Positive Touch on October 23, 2014, 03:08:23 PM
ideally you should skip 1-3 because they suck
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on October 23, 2014, 03:51:17 PM
Ff1 psx is great tho
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on October 23, 2014, 03:51:47 PM
GBA roms play like shite on the PSP, Himu. I tried playing FFV, and I was only able to stand it's herky-jerkiness for about 5 minutes.

Really? They were fine when I had a hacked psp
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: demi on October 23, 2014, 03:52:12 PM
PSP emulation is PooPoo
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on October 23, 2014, 03:55:19 PM
Ff1 gba is prolly the most boring ff I've ever played
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: SpeedStats on October 23, 2014, 07:43:06 PM
PSP one is based on the gba one. I haven't played the psp one but the gba one is terrible, boring, and horrifically easy. I beat the gba version without dying. It's the easiest FF I have ever played and that's saying something. It's awful. PSX version is the best version of FF1.

Agreed.  PSP version kind of has the same amount of difficulty but if you're playing the game for the first time or if you want to run through it without much hassle, I guess you could pick that one.  It's the one that's most readily accessible, anyway. 

PS1 version is the best version.  Most balanced.  :heart

I do, however, think that FF2 just gets better with every port it gets.  I dunno if I'd recommend the PSX version of it to newcomers, but the Wonderswan, GBA, and PSP versions of the game are the most palatable to people who just want to get through the game (PSP, especially).

And semi-related: I hate the DS version of FF3.  FF3 FC is the hottest version on the block.

ideally you should skip 1-3 because they suck
FF3 DS, probably.

FF3 FC? That game is one of the best-looking games on the Famicom, and the music/sound design is really good.  It's one of my faves in the series. 
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: demi on October 23, 2014, 07:45:42 PM
I'll probably pick up any FF games that go on sale for iOS this holiday. Square usually does their holiday sale.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on October 23, 2014, 09:02:33 PM
Speed: yeah, that's why i suggest ff2 psp over ff2 psx.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Positive Touch on October 23, 2014, 09:08:21 PM
well it looks like I need to give the original ff3 a shot
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on October 23, 2014, 09:09:51 PM
Honestly FF3 is easily in my top 3, maybe even #1, in FF OSTs.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Supermanisdead on October 23, 2014, 09:11:51 PM
I only played the DS FF3 and I thought it was really cute  :-\
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on October 23, 2014, 09:14:12 PM
FF3 isn't even that great. It has been outclassed by multiple games, I feel.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: demi on October 23, 2014, 09:38:40 PM
I only played the DS FF3 and I thought it was really cute  :-\

It's fine if you enjoy it, but its just heavily neutered compared to the original. I have no issue with the look.
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Post by: I'm a Puppy! on October 23, 2014, 10:06:11 PM
I heard that the original was hard as nails. I'm not necessarily looking for residing challenge in 1-3 I want to play them, enjoy them, but not spend forever on them. I wanna leave that for IV-IX

Given that, I think I'll keep to the PSP version of FF1. I played the original and then the PSX version when it came out. So I've really plumb the depths. Going through it quickly might not be a bad thing.
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on October 24, 2014, 01:34:21 AM
Looking for a challenge in IV-IX  :larry
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Post by: ZephyrFate on October 24, 2014, 01:36:44 AM
The original FF3 is easier than FF3DS, which adds double turns or more to bosses and that arbitrary stat reduction for a few battles every time you switch jobs. FF3DS is garbage, but FF3 NES is at least ok.
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Post by: SpeedStats on October 25, 2014, 04:59:08 PM
Yeah, FF3 FC definitely isn't hard.  It feels a lot more balanced than the DS version to me because you can use CP to just change your jobs without a handicap and the enemy encounters are more balanced between your party and the enemy party (plus it teaches the player about resource management).  Plus it doesn't run as slow as a snail with inane camera pans that take up way too much time.

FF3 isn't even that great. It has been outclassed by multiple games, I feel.

Its mechanics and balancing/job choices certainly have been outclassed by its brother and sister in FF5 and FFX-2 since those games have had time to build on the formula that DQ/FF3 had set.  I also think FF3's soundtrack is one of the best produced with the NES's NSF format.  I could only imagine how the soundtrack would've turned out if the cart had a chip of its own like CV3 or Lagrange Point.  I also think the game looks incredibly good, but that's mostly because of the time it was released.  I'm a weirdo and I love trying to compare tilesets of certain things in each FF up to FF6 and FF3 has some of the best tilesets I've seen in a Famicom RPG of that era.  The water sets look great, the colour palette used is cohesive (even moreso than FF2's... FF4's is a generational leap in terms of colour, but there are some sets I like in FF3 than FF4 even though I'm a huge huge fan of some of the colours and tiles used in FF4 and FF5).  A lot of the shading done brings a lot of the villages to life, too.  It stands to-to-toe with some of the DQ games on the platform to me, but below the likes of of something like Lagrange Point.

The game has the player putting a lot of work in for some great payoffs.  The airship is one of the best in the series since you get your own Fat Chocobo, vending machines/shops, and fires its cannons at enemies.  Eureka might be difficult but you get some cool weapons and cool jobs out of it.  There are a ton of nooks and crannies in every town with some free goodies.  Some of the towns have unique gimmicks, and while I'm not a huge fan of some gimmicks in platformers, I really really appreciate them in RPGs (so if you tell me to cast small to get into a small village, I'll take you up on that offer since it's pretty neat).  There are a ton of vehicles in the game too.  Through sidequests, vehicles you can access, all of those explorable pathways in towns, etc.  you realize the FF3 is one of the games that ended up being incredibly exploration-heavy and it's up to the player to figure out what he or she wanted to do.  It's one of the reasons why we look forward to side-content in FF games, encompassing some of the side content in FF1 and FF2 and giving us more stuff to do. 

It also set a lot of precedents in the series:
- We got summons for the first time
- We got Moogles for the first time
- We got the Fat Chocobo for the first time
- We got the sub for the first time (discounting the wooden barrel in FF1 that you couldn't even control)

While the story may have been the blase "save the crystals, y'all, oh and all the characters are children not teens or young adults" sorta thing,  I really like to treat it like a Suikoden game and have the towns tell their stories as opposed to trying to attribute way too much to the overarching narrative. While that's important, you realize the towns themselves have stories to tell and they're really varied in terms of what sort of races they have, or what sort of vignette they might feature, etc.

I dunno.  To say that FF3 might not matter in the grand scheme of the series because other games have done a lot of things that it does much better may be a little disingenuous.  That sells FF3 itself short and doesn't really give it much credit for the things it does do uniquely in the series.

I really really liked the game.  Of course, maybe I'm a little biased towards it because the order in which I had played FF games was a bit dumb:

FF1
FF4
FFMQ
FF6 (dropped after 2-3 hours returned to video store because 9-year-old me didn't like it)
FF7 (PC first, PSX a year or two after)
FFT
FF8
Chocobo's Dungeon 2
Chocobo Racing
FF9
FF10
FF2 (FC)
FF5 (SFC)
FF3 (FC)
FF10-2
(OG; played Int+LM in 2008)
FFTA
FF6 (SNES; finished)
FFCC
Dirge of Cerberus
FF11 just a bit
FF12 (IZJS was played after Rev. Wings)
Crisis Core
Dissidia
FF12 Revenant Wings
FFCC: CB
FFCC: RoF
Chocobo Tales
Hikari no 4 Senshi
Chocobo's Dungeon Wii
FFTA2
Dissidia: Duodenum
The After Years on Wii (played PSP version later on)
FF13
Crystal Defenders R1
FF14 1.0 for like an hour on someone else's account and it was awful
FF13-2
LR
still playing Final Fantasy Dimensions

I think it sucks that they never bothered to put an FC-like version of it on the Wonderswan/GBA/PSP, though.  That game deserves a better chance than the DS/iOS versions that people put up with now.  The version of FF1 that's coming with FF Explorers is what I have in mind for an FF3 FC-like, but that isn't going to happen.

Heck, I even like FF2 a lot, but that's mostly because I like the a lot of the narrative revolved around politics and stuff.   It took a few playthroughs to appreciate it, but after a while when you figure out that you should actually play the game naturally, it's pretty good and doesn't feel like a chore since the game is balanced in such a way that facilitates natural play.  I really like the soundtrack too.  It sounds pretty different and more solemn out of the first three games on the hardware.  Kinda stuck between the Wonderswan version and the PS1 version, but it's admittedly been a while since I've played the WSC version.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on October 26, 2014, 02:21:48 PM
Well admittedly I haven't played FFIII original since...2000.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on October 28, 2014, 10:38:54 AM
So playing through FF1.
I somehow had forgotten how little direction the games gave you back then. Sorta refreshing.
Really nice to play and remember how it blew my mind back in the day. The music the world to explore.
Wish there was more to it than just blast through the random encounters go to the dungeon and get the treasure. But having the PSP version and just being able to go through it quickly is actually rather nice. That music though. That music.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on October 31, 2014, 06:35:12 PM
New FFXV footage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJIjpl-vqlA
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 01, 2014, 04:36:21 PM
damn
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: nachobro on November 14, 2014, 04:47:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnKHmB2zXcc

please come to pc  :(
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Post by: tiesto on November 14, 2014, 11:57:32 PM
Nice post on FF3, SpeedStats - you mention a lot of reasons I find the game enjoyable, myself. All the cool vehicles, mini-vignettes (I still think a crazy king-midas-wannabe chaining your airship up out of bitter revenge is an awesome plot point), the parts where you have to shrink and change into frogs and shit like that, ridiculous amounts of side quests, and the awesome graphics/soundtrack. The DS version isn't as good, since I don't like the art or the fact that enemy battle parties are so small.
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Post by: Positive Touch on November 18, 2014, 11:41:10 PM
http://www.allgamesbeta.com/2014/11/square-enix-unveils-trio-of-new-final.html?m=1

LOOK AT THAT LAST SCREENSHOT MOTHERFUCKERS!!!
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on November 19, 2014, 09:58:25 AM
Hah, that portal app sharing cards with FFXIV's Triple triad is a devious move. I can already see them making cards obtained exclusively on one of the two games, making you have to play both to get them all.
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Post by: Himu on November 19, 2014, 11:06:44 AM
!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Fifstar on November 19, 2014, 11:39:01 AM
New FF with beautiful pixel style and artwork by Amano, yay!

 :lawd :noah :mouf

Quote
... It will be free-to-play with micro-transactions


 :shaq2
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on December 08, 2014, 11:21:41 PM
So it's been a while since my last update on my FF series playthrough:


FFXIII: Ugg done. Not gonna be bothered to play 2 and 3
FFXII: Forced my way through.  Brilliant beginning 10 hours after that it was a slog. No wonder I hated it when it came out. Without the Zodiac system the game just seems unfinished.


FFX: Just finished. One day a few weeks ago I beat Yunalesca and was like "OK, I'm nearly at the end, I'll just play through and finish this today." I honestly thought there were just 2 bosses left. But forgot there were actually like 5 bosses I had forgotten. 5 hours later I finally finished.

FFI: Also finished. I can see why the young me loved it so much, when I had so much time to play that I actually enjoyed not knowing what to do next and trying to figure it out. The older me is annoyed by that. Still, had fun and completed it without too much effort/time

FFII: Currently underway. I can see what they were trying to do with the system. I actually like the concept of what you do gets stronger. But it's so easily exploited and poorly executed. I'm playing the PSP version instead of the PS1 version I had played ages ago. Thankfully it's rather streamlined and fast. Much better than the PS1 version.

I'm about halfway through FFII. Not looking forward to III being next. I think I'll try out the NES version as I didn't care for the DS version. But after III it's smooth sailing.
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Post by: kick51 on December 09, 2014, 12:46:31 AM
apparently FFX HD is coming out for PS4?

Ha, like I'm gonna buy that again.  No way, not gonna triple dip, never, not in a million years, fuck square enix and their greed. I am a strong, independent gamer and I don't take shit from nobody.  They can take their Tidus' and Yunas and shove them up their asses

spoiler (click to show/hide)
day 1  :goty2
[close]

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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on December 09, 2014, 01:12:01 AM
I never got around to picking up FF10 on PS3 or Vita, so I'll get it on the cuatro instead.

(Hurry up and port KH 2.5 while you're at it so I can buy it there instead)
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 15, 2014, 03:19:51 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83yNNl5_Ezo&list=PLRFpVNN7R7xH_o5H52-bMHTC-8rciUYPK

It's really happening.
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 20, 2014, 12:27:02 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4GQjh4Ltvo

Gonna be the best game ever.
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Post by: tiesto on December 20, 2014, 12:31:51 AM
I really hope the battle system doesn't suck. For all the hate people gave 13, I didn't mind the system too much, though I just wish they'd go back oldskool.
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Post by: Himu on December 20, 2014, 12:38:08 AM
HOLY SHIT I HAVE BEEN APATHETIC ABOUT GAMES FOR MONTHS AND THAT TRAILER BROUGHT FORTH MY INNER CHILD

OH MY GODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD TITAN

THE CITIES

A GIANT BEHEMOTH IN A FOREST

(http://i.imgur.com/gNnUKP1.gif)

(http://i.imgur.com/gNnUKP1.gif)

(http://i.imgur.com/gNnUKP1.gif)
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Post by: ZephyrFate on December 20, 2014, 12:57:32 AM
HD TOWNS! Finally, this game has shown complete superiority over XIII and XII.

tiesto: it's a blend of Gambits and Paradigms. your characters have innate AI scripting based on enemy positioning and you typically only need one button for different actions -- combos, evasions, defending etc. You only control Noctis but he's a jack of all trades for every situation and will use different weapons depending on enemy distance from him.
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Post by: Rufus on December 20, 2014, 04:54:17 AM
...Actually kind of excited for this now. What is happening?
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Post by: Positive Touch on December 20, 2014, 10:47:49 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/oR6CFqa.jpg)

so squenix announced this new ios title with kitase and nojima behind it, and they specifically call it a "full-scale, high-quality rpg" (meaning yay we have a budget now). it's finally happening, duders.
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Post by: tiesto on December 20, 2014, 11:10:04 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/oR6CFqa.jpg)

so squenix announced this new ios title with kitase and nojima behind it, and they specifically call it a "full-scale, high-quality rpg" (meaning yay we have a budget now). it's finally happening, duders.

With no actual movement though...
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Post by: Positive Touch on December 20, 2014, 11:11:00 AM
zuh?
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Post by: Himu on December 20, 2014, 11:28:54 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/oR6CFqa.jpg)

so squenix announced this new ios title with kitase and nojima behind it, and they specifically call it a "full-scale, high-quality rpg" (meaning yay we have a budget now). it's finally happening, duders.

Bububu

No decent budget jrpgs are coming to iOS :hitlerlol who made that argument the other day? Lyte edge?
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: tiesto on December 20, 2014, 11:38:41 AM
zuh?

From the gaf thread:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=906515 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=906515)

"The map movement in the game will be automated"
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Positive Touch on December 20, 2014, 12:03:58 PM
meh I don't mind. the biggest problem with making console-style games on smartphones is that devs were allowed to be lazy with camera control. dual analog for movement and camera was always impractical. coming up with a more streamlined solution will really help with 3d smartphone gaming production imo.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2014, 12:05:48 PM
Dq8 mobile has automated movement and it is optional
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: kick51 on December 20, 2014, 12:50:39 PM
buying square-enix mobile games tho
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on December 20, 2014, 01:52:46 PM
Who gives a shit about automated movement and car riding games

http://a.pomf.se/ltwexc.webm

Weird lizard people  :leon

http://a.pomf.se/silbza.webm

Soaring through the air on a dragon  :rejoice

http://a.pomf.se/jktuif.webm

Using a floating globe and cards as weapons  :larry

http://a.pomf.se/numrwy.webm

BALLER AS FUCK MACHINIST  :lawd

 :bow FFXIV  :bow2
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Post by: Trent Dole on December 20, 2014, 10:45:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud1RIPF0CA0
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2014, 10:47:04 PM
Who gives a shit about automated movement and car riding games

http://a.pomf.se/ltwexc.webm

Weird lizard people  :leon

http://a.pomf.se/silbza.webm

Soaring through the air on a dragon  :rejoice

http://a.pomf.se/jktuif.webm

Using a floating globe and cards as weapons  :larry

http://a.pomf.se/numrwy.webm

BALLER AS FUCK MACHINIST  :lawd

 :bow FFXIV  :bow2

> is mmo
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Supermanisdead on December 20, 2014, 11:14:23 PM
okay the new cid/cindy in ff15 is kawaii as all hell. give it to me  :mouf :expert
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on December 20, 2014, 11:14:28 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_BLgeTVbdc

 FF14 Golden Saucer reveal  :hyper

Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Himu on December 20, 2014, 11:18:20 PM
it seems like ff14 fans talk less about the game and more about the fact that there's this random fan service doodad

like it's cool at first but it seems like fan service is the only thing they ever talk about
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on December 20, 2014, 11:23:25 PM
why would i spend time talking about the game here, where no one is interested, when I could be playing it and talking about it in-game, which is what I do?  :wtf

Talking MMO details generally flies over people's heads unless they're also playing the game and know wtf I'm talking about. It's easier to post bits of fanservice/general stuff like my last two posts here which everyone can appreciate without having played it.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Lucretius on December 21, 2014, 05:46:21 AM
The whole final fantasy series is self-referential.  You could say that all the recurring elements that make a game a final fantasy game (summons, spell names, Cid, airships, Gilgamesh, chocobos, Biggs and Wedge, cactuars, moogles, tonberries, etc.) are "fan service".  As Legend said, we could talk about the other aspects of FFXIV at length.  The gameplay is great, especially once you get to the endgame raids.  I just beat the final raid in the Second Binding Coil of Bahamut (T9) tonight.  The story for the Binding Coil is fucking cool.  The music is great.  The mechanics and gameplay of the raids are fun yet fiendishly difficult to master.  I love the flexibility of the job system.  I love the art style and the I've been playing video games since the Atari 2600.  I played the first Dragon Warrior and Final Fantasy when they first came out on the NES.  I played the original Phantasy Star when it first came out on the Master System.  But I've never been into a game as much as I'm into FFXIV. 

Golden Saucer doesn't interest me so much yet.  I'll wait and see what it has to offer.  Heavensward looks fucking awesome though.  I'm definitely going to level a Dark Knight and a Machinist when it comes out.
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Post by: I'm a Puppy! on December 21, 2014, 08:20:14 AM
Pay a monthly fee to play an mmo in 2014 brehs
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Lucretius on December 21, 2014, 09:32:38 AM
This is pretty much my reaction to all the FFXIV: Heavensward announcements.

http://youtu.be/V1gxDJFnEgc
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Freyj on December 21, 2014, 02:26:24 PM
Pay a monthly fee to play an mmo in 2014 brehs

Oh no, $15 a month who can afford such highway robbery.

Seriously the worst argument in MMO history. The price per hour of entertainment is far and away better than just about any other worthwhile, legal video gaming. Not to mention the fucking terror of pay to win MMO "F2P" systems that plague every MMO without a subscription that doesn't have Guild Wars in the title.
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Post by: Positive Touch on December 21, 2014, 02:36:02 PM
I played skyrim for 250 hours and it only cost $15 :troll
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on December 21, 2014, 02:45:30 PM
Pay a monthly fee to play an mmo in 2014 brehs

No different than paying $60 every couple of months for latest AAA snoozefest, only in this case I'm only paying the sub because I have fun with the game I'm playing.

I just beat the final raid in the Second Binding Coil of Bahamut (T9) tonight.

Golden Saucer doesn't interest me so much yet.  I'll wait and see what it has to offer.

I only got to Second Coil this past week, but it really is a lot more interesting mechanically than the first set of turns. Thinking of getting more practice done for T6-8 before I tackle T9 though, cause that looks like a doozy. I also did those fights on Ninja despite being a Paladin main, so that's a whole 'nother headache.  :goty2

Golden Saucer interests me cause I'm casual scum that does loves his irrelevant side content. I've never been too big on Triple Triad, but I'm definitely gonna get into Chocobo Raising, specially since it looks to be more intricate than it was in FF7.



Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on December 21, 2014, 04:05:02 PM
I'm not a fan of paying someone for the privilege of paying them.

Either

1) Let me buy the game at full price and give me a free or at the very least a sub $6 a month fee.
or
2) Give me the game for free and charge me a subscription fee.

But buying a full priced game plus a full priced subscription? The market's changed.  This isn't 2004 anymore.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: Lucretius on December 21, 2014, 05:06:57 PM
For what we get, I think the $15 a month is totally reasonable.  We get big chunky updates every three months or so that add huge amounts of story content, new bosses, new dungeons, etc.  If you don't want to pay for it, then just play something else.  But for those who enjoy the game, it's definitely worth it and I get more than enough time and fun back for the small subscription fee.

They really nerfed the harsher mechanics in Second Coil, at least T6-T8.  The mechanics in T9 are unchanged, though the 15% echo buff helps tremendously.  You can usually clear T6 and T7 in Duty Finder.  T8 requires a little more coordination and is best for learning in Party Finder.  Hopefully my FC will get me with a team soon to start Final Coil.  I want to fight Bahamut and get that Dreadwyrm gear!

I'm sure once Golden Saucer is out it'll have stuff I'm interested in.  I just don't know enough about it to get too hyped for it yet.  I'm not the biggest FFVII fan so the nostalgia factor hasn't sucked me in.
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Post by: Freyj on December 21, 2014, 05:21:28 PM
I'm not a fan of paying someone for the privilege of paying them.

Either

1) Let me buy the game at full price and give me a free or at the very least a sub $6 a month fee.
or
2) Give me the game for free and charge me a subscription fee.

But buying a full priced game plus a full priced subscription? The market's changed.  This isn't 2004 anymore.

http://www.amazon.com/Final-Fantasy-XIV-Realm-Reborn-PC/dp/B008SBZD9G

$22. $15 for the first 30 days of playtime and $7 for an account. I'm sure there are ways to make that slicker.

I don't even like FFXIV all that much honestly, but history shows the difference between Subscription MMOs and F2P / B2P MMOs and all things considered it isn't pretty.
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Post by: mormapope on December 21, 2014, 05:24:25 PM
I feel like such a weirdo for thinking Lightning Returns is the best single player Final Fantasy since FFX.  :goty
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Post by: Supermanisdead on December 21, 2014, 05:52:19 PM
You are. I was so excited for it, but it was such a letdown. Ugly, boring and I couldn't deal with the combat system and levelling. If it had a more traditional system or the cp system from the last 2 games, it would have been way more enjoyable. But having battles be nothing but gold grinding and all stats tied to fetch quests made me fall asleep.
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Post by: Bebpo on December 21, 2014, 07:28:10 PM
I feel like such a weirdo for thinking Lightning Returns is the best single player Final Fantasy since FFX.  :goty

Well your competition is FFXII, FFXIII, FFXIII-2.  I have a hard time believing it's better than XII, but otherwise I can see it better than XIII & XIII-2.  Looking forward to playing it when it hits PC.  Liked XIII-2 quite a bit.
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Post by: SpeedStats on December 21, 2014, 09:13:32 PM
Lightning Returns is a fairly divisive game.  I platinumed it and by the end I came out really disliking it despite loving ARPGs in a general sense.  Its flaws just seemed to outweigh its few pluses to me.  But a lot of people seem to like it so it's kinda like "whatever floats your boat".  I just found it far too boring and the combat was easy enough to grasp that I found it tiresome by the end.  It's just like a lot of people seemed to like Type-0 a lot, but I found it to be so shallow combat-wise, and having to play it twice to get everything brought it down a ton for me (also the RTS sections are pure garbage).  Good ideas, flawed execution.

I'm looking forward to trying out FFXIV next year with Sunblade when I finally have time for it.  I'd like to try it at least once, and then I can say that I've played every mainline FF.

I bought a friend 4 Heroes of Light for Christmas, and I thought he'd come out hating it since he played FF1 for the first time a month or so ago and didn't seem to like it much.  He... actually ended up liking it despite the limited inventory, etc.  It's just a bit of a shock that he liked it.  Any time people ask me to recommend an FF game, I usually stick to mainline games, but sometimes I wonder if I should start suggesting stuff out of the spinoff catalogue since a lot of it isn't too bad.  The genres are varied enough to start easing people in who main other genres, so why not.

I think I'm exhausted of FF at this point, though.  Halfway through FFDimensions and I think when I finish that off, it'll be the last FF I'll play for a while. 
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Post by: Himu on December 21, 2014, 10:37:23 PM
I haven't bought a final fantasy since 13 :yeshrug

Aside from dimensions I guess
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Post by: tiesto on December 22, 2014, 12:20:41 AM
I liked XIII-2 more than most people, but LR didn't work for me. I hate hate hate time limits in games, and yeah by the end of the game the time limit doesn't really matter much but it's still a bit of a hassle to deal with, and at the beginning it really pressures you, especially if you want to 100% it.
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Post by: recursivelyenumerable on December 22, 2014, 06:15:16 AM
afaict the biggest cost of MMOs by far is your time. the subscription cost is sort of trivial in comparison. i'd like to play ffxiv but it's really hard for me to justify devoting 10% of my life or whatever to it.
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Post by: kick51 on December 22, 2014, 09:00:13 AM
they can fuck right off with that $59.99 price on Type-0.  Impressions seem mixed on the game too.  I'm just gonna go with people liking it because the characters are high schoolers, but they wear black, so that means it's deep and mature. 
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Post by: demi on December 22, 2014, 09:47:03 AM
Game doesnt come out for 3 months. Surely you cant set aside the money by then?
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Post by: I'm a Puppy! on December 22, 2014, 11:01:38 AM
afaict the biggest cost of MMOs by far is your time. the subscription cost is sort of trivial in comparison. i'd like to play ffxiv but it's really hard for me to justify devoting 10% of my life or whatever to it.
That is very true.
I tried that 15 day trial of FFXIV and it was good enough but after like day 2 or 3 I just felt the treadmill was too much for me really and I gave it up.
When I played FFXI I needed a time sink and that served me well. But now, I just don't have the time. Maybe when I do, I'll revisit the idea.
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Post by: Freyj on December 22, 2014, 11:39:01 AM
they can fuck right off with that $59.99 price on Type-0.  Impressions seem mixed on the game too.  I'm just gonna go with people liking it because the characters are high schoolers, but they wear black, so that means it's deep and mature.

I assumed they'd milk the fuck out of that first hour or two in the trailers and that was correct.

There will meltdowns a plenty over that one.
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Post by: kick51 on December 22, 2014, 11:44:11 AM
Game doesnt come out for 3 months. Surely you cant set aside the money by then?

It's a PSP game.  It's gonna have PSP bite sized zones and a few extra little changes.  This is the square-enix tax in effect. 

I'd probably day 1 despite the bitching, but I'll be playing bloodborne around that time.

they can fuck right off with that $59.99 price on Type-0.  Impressions seem mixed on the game too.  I'm just gonna go with people liking it because the characters are high schoolers, but they wear black, so that means it's deep and mature.

I assumed they'd milk the fuck out of that first hour or two in the trailers and that was correct.

There will meltdowns a plenty over that one.


what happens after that


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Post by: demi on December 22, 2014, 11:48:57 AM
sorry bro, im voting with my wallet. i support final fantasy in the states.
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 22, 2014, 11:53:28 AM
I'll be getting the Collectors Edition. Type 0 is an ok game. Looks like they are at least fixing the camera. Hope some of the character progression is also changed. It still looks rough though, but whatever I like FF.
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Post by: Positive Touch on December 22, 2014, 12:04:00 PM
the first hour of type-0: omg omg omg

the next five hours of type-0: uhhh

I'll keep going because it's still fun but man they really front-loaded that one. after the opening the psp rectangle hallways come out in full effect.
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Post by: Freyj on December 22, 2014, 01:18:27 PM
Type 0 is basically on par with The 3rd Birthday. The first hour is a bunch of heavy, mature, violent stuff for a Final Fantasy game, and that's what they've been stuffing the trailers with, but the nosedive is pretty evident after that.

Shit, unless they fixed it the game is basically missing the last third or so of its story (think Xenogears).
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Post by: Supermanisdead on December 22, 2014, 03:59:45 PM
13-2 is the best FF since 9  :-*
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Post by: SpeedStats on December 22, 2014, 04:05:23 PM
Type 0 is basically on par with The 3rd Birthday. The first hour is a bunch of heavy, mature, violent stuff for a Final Fantasy game, and that's what they've been stuffing the trailers with, but the nosedive is pretty evident after that.

Shit, unless they fixed it the game is basically missing the last third or so of its story (think Xenogears).

That's why you need to play it twice to understand everything and get the second playthrough scenes + read up on that FNC stuff.

I thought, structurally-speaking and combat-wise, it was inadequate. A lot of the complaints that Bebpo had basically echo mine. I felt like FF13/FF13-2 had more depth to them than Type-0 had, and you can't just say it's a PSP game since there are other games on the platform with more depth than Type-0 had with respect to combat.

But at least they fixed the crappy camera for the HD version. Even playing it on Vita (the digital copy they offered everyone) didn't feel right since it was way too close and way too low.  In the end, I think some people will really love it, especially based on its narrative (which isn't that bad, especially after you read up on that FNC stuff), and then some people will really dislike it based on its structure. 

I feel like it may have been too ambitious for what it ended up being.
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Post by: Freyj on December 22, 2014, 04:06:46 PM
I read all the second playthrough stuff as I didn't consider the game worth another go around, it doesn't excuse the last chapter being basically cliff notes / nonsense.
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Post by: SpeedStats on December 22, 2014, 04:14:27 PM
I agree.  I dislike when games do that, and the second playthrough stuff just basically qualified as one of my pet peeves in video games: utterly wasting my time as a player. 

That being said, a lot of people still like it.  I'm just one of those people who think it's fairly mediocre.
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Post by: ZephyrFate on December 23, 2014, 01:14:37 AM
It makes you wonder how FFXV is going to turn out with how Type-O did under the same director. Sure, the game came out in a timely fashion, but it seems to be underwhelming.
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Post by: I'm a Puppy! on December 23, 2014, 02:17:57 AM
The second play through stuff should be something that a game earns. not something that a player is required to do.
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Post by: Positive Touch on December 26, 2014, 05:34:59 PM
final fantasy 13 games have gotta be the most disjointed trilogy ever committed to disc. like why are they even connected? none of them take place in the same world, they change the mythology so much it might as well be brand new, and the characters' arcs are so ridiculous they might as well be new people.

I mean 13-2 was an alright game and LR seems like it will be too, but it was a bad decision to saddle them with 13s baggage.
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Post by: ZephyrFate on December 26, 2014, 06:27:11 PM
XIII and XIII-2 are in the same world, but XIII-2 has the ability to time travel opening up areas that would not have existed at the same time as when FFXIII takes place.

LR is a different world cobbled together from the fallout of XIII-2.

And regarding mythology, it's one of the few things in the trilogy that remains consistent.
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Post by: Positive Touch on December 26, 2014, 07:18:46 PM
:what consistent my ass. they make it like they're building off of what came before, but it's so different that it minus well be completely new.
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Post by: demi on December 26, 2014, 07:55:32 PM
This is why all Final Fantasy games are separate. Because continuing the story is a recipe for disaster..... lol
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Post by: I'm a Puppy! on December 26, 2014, 08:19:36 PM
They could pull a Halo 2 and just end the game about halfway through.
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Post by: Supermanisdead on December 26, 2014, 08:27:57 PM
13-2 goes to a lot of the same places from 13  ???

And the whole story is based on a very specific thing that went down in 13
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Post by: demi on December 26, 2014, 08:35:42 PM
What, you mean the retcon? :teehee
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Post by: demi on December 26, 2014, 08:36:41 PM
13-2 and 13-3's story: "Etro did it, lol."
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Post by: Positive Touch on December 26, 2014, 08:43:31 PM
13s story is about as relevant to the later games as the instruction booklet story is to an nes game: it provides a backdrop, but is otherwise worthless.
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Post by: demi on December 26, 2014, 09:19:20 PM
In related news, I am finally almost done with X-2 HD. This weekend I've bopped Trema, and am roughly 40 enemies away from completing Shinra Bestiary. Then it's time to flex my ladyclit at Shuyin and Vegnagun, then cry when I somehow missed something and wont get 100%. Oversouling is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy less painful than grinding that stupid sphere grid.

And then get to try Last Mission for the first time
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Post by: demi on December 29, 2014, 01:56:55 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/9UZtqdZ.jpg)

:rejoice
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Post by: Positive Touch on December 29, 2014, 02:09:22 AM
fuck thats a lot of boring grinding
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Post by: I'm a Puppy! on December 29, 2014, 10:51:33 AM
edit: NM
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on January 13, 2015, 02:05:42 PM
FFXIV Patch 2.5 Trailer

http://youtu.be/pj3hGDaDZqI

In true final fantasy fashion, you can go play SUPER DUNK at the Gold Saucer and race chocobos at the same time major world changing events are going down.
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Post by: Lucretius on January 13, 2015, 02:14:27 PM
The story quests look fantastic. Finally some resolution on the mysterious Ascians. Muthafucking Cloud of Darkness in the new crystal tower raid!  That dragon at the end talking about the fall of Ishgard! HILDEBRAND!!! I just started Final Coil of Bahamut (the most recent high end raid) last night. Gold Saucer looks like a neat distraction for casual players. This game... so much to love.
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on January 22, 2015, 06:26:22 PM
Postin' for the music folks, Soken arrangements of FF3 themes from FF14

World of Darkness Calm (http://youtu.be/1-M-aN1cFdo) and Battle (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x02dgGFhkLQ) versions

Cloud of Darkness (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U1fY9LXnMk)

Doga and Unei's Theme (http://t.co/PXtv2GHGoK)

Eternal Wind (http://youtu.be/DbUJQO9CZhA)
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Post by: Lucretius on January 22, 2015, 10:40:08 PM
Postin' for the music folks, Soken arrangements of FF3 themes from FF14

World of Darkness Calm (http://youtu.be/1-M-aN1cFdo) and Battle (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x02dgGFhkLQ) versions

Cloud of Darkness (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U1fY9LXnMk)

Doga and Unei's Theme (http://t.co/PXtv2GHGoK)

Eternal Wind (http://youtu.be/DbUJQO9CZhA)

My favorite thing in the new patch so far is in the World of Darkness when you're fighting Cerberus, if you get mini'd by the gastric acid and then run into his vomit, he'll eat you and your party.  You and your party then help kill him from the inside… killing what appear to be polyps in his stomach lining while poop-like enemies called "Unknown" attack you.  While you're inside him the other two parties in the alliance are battling him from the outside.  You can hear the music still but it's muffled because you're inside him.  After you kill the polyps he poops you out
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 03, 2015, 04:12:36 PM
Just bought ffx hd for vita, never finished it on ps2 which I now attribute to first year in college.

Was thinking about replaying 7 or 8 for the first time sunce they came out but better to play something I havent finished yet
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Post by: archnemesis on February 04, 2015, 02:58:40 AM
I picked up that too and I'm going to try to play through it in Spanish.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on February 04, 2015, 09:25:11 AM
I found a copy of the FFXIII-2 CE strategy guide, completing my Lightning Trilogy strategy guide collection.
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Post by: demi on February 04, 2015, 09:27:05 AM
"How to walk through a tunnel"
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Post by: demi on February 05, 2015, 11:21:23 AM
FF XV demo is confirmed to be available on launch of Type-0. We finally get to play XV in one month.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on February 05, 2015, 11:35:43 AM
"How to walk through a tunnel"

It's not like I actually use them.
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Post by: Supermanisdead on February 05, 2015, 11:58:03 AM
"How to walk through a tunnel"

Wrong. The tunnel is a paradox. You have to walk through it 5 years from now when the debris clears.
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Post by: demi on February 05, 2015, 12:00:10 PM
I would not have known that if I didnt have the guide
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Post by: Himu on February 05, 2015, 12:03:24 PM
My friend helped write that guide :maf
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 06, 2015, 10:05:52 AM
Fuck you chocobo eater!
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 07, 2015, 07:56:37 AM
Djose Temple , this sphere puzzle is hard.

Combat in the game is good so far, have to use the whole team and their skill.

Tidus and Yuna are a bit lame unfortunately.
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Post by: Positive Touch on February 07, 2015, 08:45:39 AM
to get yuna to level you really need to avoid healing your team in the menu after battle
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Post by: I'm a Puppy! on February 07, 2015, 10:19:27 AM
I just don't have it in me to do a full run of the series anymore.
I made it through I just fine got to the second to last dungeon on II and was like "Oh yeah, I remember this. Most of the end dungeons are just exercises in tedium"
I might've made it through II but then I had III after it.
I've grown too old and busy for old school final fantasy right now.
It was cool when I was younger and had hours to plumb the depths of the games. Not now though. I think I'll skip ahead to the Playstation iterations in a while.
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Post by: Himu on February 07, 2015, 10:22:05 AM
Why not just do the Snes ones and up
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Post by: I'm a Puppy! on February 07, 2015, 10:25:22 AM
IV is too recent did that one not too long ago when I tried to do a FFIV complete run (not a fan of the after years I found)

I might do FFV and up though. That's all stellar material.
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Post by: Positive Touch on February 07, 2015, 01:04:07 PM
why even do a series run on done long-ass rpgs anyway. that's like a months-long goal for a kid let alone an adult.
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Post by: Himu on February 07, 2015, 01:30:58 PM
Ff games aren't that long when you replay. Can beat 12 in 20 hours. :yeshrug  for a year long thing it is very doable.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on February 09, 2015, 04:23:58 PM
Cloud of Darkness (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U1fY9LXnMk)

lawl, I just noticed Cloud of Darkness has a "shirt" now.

(http://i.imgur.com/1nSSuzP.png)

Thanks, John Ashcroft!  :'(
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on February 10, 2015, 12:42:18 AM
It's really easy to look around her shawl and take a peek at the goods while fighting her.   :-*

(http://41.media.tumblr.com/4cb0f2d8150b9d4943fc7af72b92eb9e/tumblr_nj117nLpkq1sgrnkgo1_500.jpg)
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Post by: Joe Molotov on February 10, 2015, 12:15:25 PM
Okay, I guess I'm gonna play some more FF6. What's Gau's deal, should I be trying to get all these rages, are there some that really awesome/broken?
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Post by: archnemesis on February 10, 2015, 12:22:28 PM
Yep, there are a few that are consistently good although he is not as great as some of the other characters. Some of the later dungeons requires multiple parties so you might as well try to get some of the more powerful rages.
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Post by: demi on February 10, 2015, 12:31:00 PM
Gau is dogshit like most if not all the cast
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Post by: Himu on February 10, 2015, 12:59:46 PM
Gau is broken with the right rages. In fact, most characters in VI are broken. Not sure what Demi is on about.
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Post by: Positive Touch on February 10, 2015, 01:01:26 PM
I wouldn't worry too much about getting certain types of rages; just send him out a handful of times and he should get enough decent abilities to get him thru the few times you'll have to use him.
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Post by: demi on February 10, 2015, 01:18:57 PM
Gau is broken with the right rages. In fact, most characters in VI are broken. Not sure what Demi is on about.

I'm talking about 6 being garbage
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Post by: Joe Molotov on February 10, 2015, 01:52:29 PM
I wouldn't worry too much about getting certain types of rages; just send him out a handful of times and he should get enough decent abilities to get him thru the few times you'll have to use him.

Apparently Stray Cat is a good one, and I already got that one, so I guess I'm good.
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Post by: Positive Touch on February 10, 2015, 02:07:28 PM
Gau is broken with the right rages. In fact, most characters in VI are broken. Not sure what Demi is on about.

I'm talking about 6 being garbage

shhhhhh go to your room boy
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Post by: Himu on February 10, 2015, 03:29:35 PM
He's not wrong. I mean, beyond the nostalgia, world of balance isn't good at all. It's as linear as ff4 or 10, it takes forever to get Magic, the esper system is :trash it's as easy if not easier than VII. What saves VI is the world of ruin and its non linearity imo. It just isn't that good to me anymore. Shame because it's a special game to me. At this point I'd rather just replay CT if I get the hankering for an snes era linear Square rpg. So Demi is half right.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on February 10, 2015, 03:38:21 PM
He's not wrong. I mean, beyond the nostalgia, world of balance isn't good at all. It's as linear as ff4 or 10, it takes forever to get Magic, the esper system is :trash it's as easy if not easier than VII. What saves VI is the world of ruin and its non linearity imo. It just isn't that good to me anymore. Shame because it's a special game to me. At this point I'd rather just replay CT if I get the hankering for an snes era linear Square rpg. So Demi is half right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUapeqs2xt8
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Post by: Himu on February 10, 2015, 04:24:34 PM
:lol it's not a bad game, joe
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 11, 2015, 11:13:05 AM
I hope at some point in FFX I can kill Shelinda.

(http://www.finalfantasy500.com/500/charimagessz/shelinda2.jpg)
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Post by: Joe Molotov on February 11, 2015, 03:53:42 PM
:lol it's not a bad game, joe

I've already beat FF 2, 3, and Mystic Quest. Do you think I'm scared?
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 11, 2015, 06:11:21 PM
Omg why is everyone so into Yevon
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Post by: Rufus on February 11, 2015, 06:19:55 PM
Godd PR. :win
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Post by: Himu on February 11, 2015, 06:55:42 PM
Why do you think everyone is into yevon?
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Post by: Joe Molotov on February 11, 2015, 07:01:16 PM
Giant cock?
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Post by: Positive Touch on February 11, 2015, 07:26:18 PM
damn al bhed takin our jerbs
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Post by: I'm a Puppy! on February 11, 2015, 07:32:01 PM
Yevon was hung yo.
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Post by: Himu on February 11, 2015, 09:28:01 PM
I don't know guys, like, if only there were real world analogues for yevon. I think there is and they start with R, not sure
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Post by: I'm a Puppy! on February 11, 2015, 10:12:51 PM
R. Kelly?
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Post by: Joe Molotov on February 11, 2015, 10:24:19 PM
Redditors?
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Post by: Himu on February 11, 2015, 10:25:55 PM
Red peppers :phil
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Post by: ZephyrFate on February 11, 2015, 11:34:01 PM
Rapelay?
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 12, 2015, 03:21:52 AM
Religion is just such a boring topic, but it makes sense maybe for angsty teens
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Post by: Rufus on February 12, 2015, 03:22:56 AM
Well, they are the target demographic.
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Post by: demi on February 12, 2015, 09:00:27 AM
Religion is just such a boring topic, but it makes sense maybe for angsty teens

Religion is an awesome topic, people need reminders that it's a virus.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on February 13, 2015, 03:13:22 PM
Did the opera and got a airship.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 15, 2015, 05:18:53 PM
Possibly the worst ff opinion I've read:

Quote from: Valen;152199683
Final Fantasy VII.

The overworld in a Final Fantasy game should always be presented to the player within an hour of play. But in FF7 you have to go through a way-too-long, way-too-linear Midgar section to see it for the first time.

It's a shame, because the overworld is one of the most mindblowingly innovative parts of the game. Everywhere else in the game just has movement on a 2D flat plane, not really very different than the game's 2D predecessors. But the overworld was different - this was the first FF where you could walk around an overworld with a full 3D camera, with full 3D movement.

I've attempted getting through the initial Midgar section so many times in the past and always quit before finishing. The main reason I played FF 1-6 was the sense of a vast world to explore. In my favorite FF, FFIV, you get to see the overworld within minutes. Contrast that to the hours in FFVII.

Because of this, it wasn't until relatively recently, on my most recent play attempt of FF7, that I finally got far enough to see the overworld. It really shouldn't have taken as long as it did. Midgar felt like one long corridor, and that mislead me to think the rest of the game would be like that (It isn't).
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Post by: Trent Dole on February 15, 2015, 05:55:14 PM
I bet that guy HATES late title cards.
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Post by: Positive Touch on February 15, 2015, 06:06:17 PM
the other day I read a review of a Doom rerelease that said that altho the core gameplay was fun the game was nothing more than shooting monsters and collecting keys, and because of this the game was shallow and kind of sucked. it was then that I realized that hatereading young peoples' opinions on classic entertainment could be a very enjoyable use of my time.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on February 16, 2015, 12:07:14 AM
I thought Midgar was cool as hell when I was 14. There was this store were you can pay a buck and play a a PSX or N64 for an hour, and I played the first hour of FF7 at least 3 times.
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Post by: ZephyrFate on February 16, 2015, 01:00:21 AM
Midgar is still the only worthwhile part of FF7. It would be nice to have a modern RPG set in that kind of dystopia that ISN'T a Deus Ex game.
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Post by: recursivelyenumerable on February 16, 2015, 04:08:11 AM
midgar didn't feel like a corridor at all to me, although i guess it mostly kind of was (was it?). they did a good job making it feel like a real adventure with the camera angles, NPCs, minigames (which were idiotic but they did add flavor), etc. in fact to me that part of the game kind of felt more like an adventure game than a jrpg, in a good way.
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Post by: kick51 on February 16, 2015, 09:39:47 AM
yeah Midgar's my favorite part.  funny how the game is more exciting when you're blowing up reactors and escaping Shinra, who is literally smashing whole parts of the city to get you vs. manaflows and crystals and emotions and shit.
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Post by: Supermanisdead on February 17, 2015, 03:42:08 PM
about to drop 80 bucks on that ff15 demo. is that psp game even good? idc, im here for C-I-N-D-Y
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Post by: demi on February 17, 2015, 03:42:35 PM
Why $80? It's $60 MSRP
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Post by: Supermanisdead on February 18, 2015, 11:46:54 AM
games are 69.99$ in canada, plus the tax puts it up to 80.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on February 18, 2015, 12:05:52 PM
Get a second job.
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Post by: kick51 on March 02, 2015, 11:48:18 PM
the kicker for FFX HD PS4 is that you can toggle back to the original OST.  and some nicer assets + IQ. coming out on may 12th.  they got me again.
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Post by: nachobro on March 03, 2015, 12:18:15 AM
the kicker for FFX HD PS4 is that you can toggle back to the original OST.  and some nicer assets + IQ. coming out on may 12th.  they got me again.
:beli

Goddamnit Square
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 03, 2015, 01:24:14 AM
Got me again.
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Post by: Trent Dole on March 03, 2015, 01:42:44 AM
So there's an HD-er edition coming and it is actually better, then.
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Post by: Positive Touch on March 03, 2015, 01:43:53 AM
the hd soundtrack sounded better what the hell guys
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Post by: ZephyrFate on March 03, 2015, 02:43:41 AM
The HD soundtrack is fine, so that's a whatever addition.
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Post by: Positive Touch on March 03, 2015, 10:16:35 AM
someone please help me before I blow all my monies on theatrhythm dlc
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Post by: Joe Molotov on March 03, 2015, 10:23:41 AM
someone please help me before I blow all my monies on theatrhythm dlc

Do it.
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Post by: Positive Touch on March 03, 2015, 10:45:21 AM
dude I would totally buy a game that had random tracks from all of squares old titles. like I need 1000% more mitsuda in my game.
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Post by: kick51 on March 03, 2015, 10:56:08 AM
i liked some of the new tracks better, some not as much.  hopefully its a quick toggle and not something you have to restart to do.
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Post by: demi on March 03, 2015, 11:09:22 AM
2 weeks until we can finally play XV
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Post by: demi on March 03, 2015, 11:10:01 AM
Some HD tracks are doodoo butter imo, like the Yunalesca fight for sure. Wasnt a dealbreaker because only re-res care.
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Post by: Cheddahz on March 03, 2015, 12:18:17 PM
How's the FFX/X-2 HD Collection on the Vita? I have Gamestop credit to kill and I could basically get it for "free"
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Post by: demi on March 03, 2015, 12:25:24 PM
Good port, I played X2 on it just fine.
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Post by: Cheddahz on March 03, 2015, 12:26:20 PM
Good port, I played X2 on it just fine.
Word, that's the one I mainly want to play on there anyways
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 03, 2015, 12:29:50 PM
It's a good port.

Lol vita though.
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on March 03, 2015, 01:48:23 PM
I wish the theatrhythm dlc tracks weren't so lazy. Its cool to have them, but they don't add any new enemies to the game so its kinda jarring fighting bosses/enemies from games that don't belong to the song.
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Post by: Positive Touch on March 03, 2015, 04:48:08 PM
do they have new backgrounds?
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on March 03, 2015, 05:52:57 PM
Yeah, they do. That's the one saving grace, though its the bare minimum effort they could have done really.
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Post by: Positive Touch on March 10, 2015, 07:50:29 AM
http://youtu.be/NRIswTUQHrk

OMG THE GRAFIX

seriously I can't wait
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Post by: demi on March 10, 2015, 08:59:56 AM
7 days until we can finally play final fantasy xv
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 10, 2015, 04:01:23 PM
How's the FFX/X-2 HD Collection on the Vita? I have Gamestop credit to kill and I could basically get it for "free"

It looks real good
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Post by: Positive Touch on April 03, 2015, 03:16:48 AM
so I finally got around to listening to the bonus story that comes with ffxhd... why the hell did they make this again :lol ? this is trollery of the highest order. it's just some dumb nonsensical plot twists with no resolution at all. of all the directions they coulda went with this and they chose the worst possible one. just pointless
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Post by: demi on April 03, 2015, 08:56:25 AM
The bonus story isnt really canon imo.

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_X_-Will-
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Post by: mormapope on April 03, 2015, 09:27:11 AM
My favorite moment is when Tidus sees a Blitzball, runs up to kick it or play with it, and then it turns it out it was a bomb. It blows up, his head flies off, Yuna catches it. They also have a bunch of weird relationship problems. You'd think after all the shit they've been through they would be ready to settle down forever.

Nope, they're both petty as fuck  :lol
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Post by: demi on April 03, 2015, 09:28:56 AM
That's from the FFX 2.5 novella, its not included in the game.
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Post by: mormapope on April 03, 2015, 09:32:34 AM
I thought it was all the same shit. Guess not.  :duh

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Post by: Positive Touch on April 03, 2015, 10:49:21 AM
it was still written by the guy who wrote the stories to both games, which is insane because is so fucking awful. I can't imagine a single fan out there being satisfied with this stupidity. and making something fan-friendly is really the only point in doing this so great job on wasting an opportunity in the dumbest most confusing way possible.
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Post by: I'm a Puppy! on April 03, 2015, 11:48:21 AM
I can't believe that the whole visual novel crap thing actually made it through multiple people saying "Yeah this is OK."

It not only has a ridiculously unlikable main character it also undoes everything the prior 2 games. I just can't imagine ANYONE saying , "This seems like something fans of FFX and FFX-2 would like."
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Post by: Positive Touch on April 03, 2015, 12:44:15 PM
yeah it's not that big a deal overall, it's just very weird to me that no one stepped in and said, "yeah, this is a really shitty unsatisfying story that completely squanders this chance you have to revisit this characters." makes me think there's a lot of vetoing of stupid insane ideas that never make it into these games.
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Post by: Narolf on April 14, 2015, 08:55:08 AM
My favorite Final Fantasy is Final Fantasy XV: Episode Duscae.

I do not like ranking games. I will just say I am one of those who firmly believe the series started for serious with VII.
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Post by: I'm a Puppy! on April 14, 2015, 11:37:06 AM
For serious.
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Post by: Narolf on April 14, 2015, 11:41:04 AM
Thank god FFVIII is now completely out of the picture.
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Post by: Positive Touch on April 14, 2015, 12:42:49 PM
:getout
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on April 14, 2015, 04:42:31 PM
My favorite Final Fantasy is Final Fantasy XV: Episode Duscae.

I do not like ranking games. I will just say I am one of those who firmly believe the series started for serious with VII.
idiots usually do.
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Post by: Narolf on April 14, 2015, 07:44:09 PM
On the other hand, what would constitute a cause of divorce is my appreciation for the Lightning's trilogy. In that case, shall you take her place, Mr. Coleman?
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on April 14, 2015, 07:56:42 PM
Jokes on you bitch. I only like the first one.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
What are you talking about?
[close]
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Post by: Narolf on April 14, 2015, 07:59:27 PM
Please refrain from using that word...
Kagari's SUPER SECRET SOURCE says this rumor is fake, unsurprisingly.
Fuck that bitch.
Order is XIII > LR > XIII-2 for me.
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Post by: SpeedStats on April 16, 2015, 12:59:47 PM
so... anyway...  moving on...

I've wanted to play the entire series again for a while now, or at least try to.  I usually play FF5 every year because of the Job Fiesta, and because I like it.  Since I haven't played a lot of the games in years, I want to look at them with a newer perspective.  I might have to play FF1 twice since I want to try a White Mage party with the NES version, when a party member is KO'd they're KO'd forever, etc., and then I want to try a playthrough of the PSP version. 

I think it'll be fun.

So far, I'm thinking...

FF1 - NES (hard mode), PSP (finish within 4-6 hours)
FF2 - PSP or PS1 (still deciding, but I'm leaning towards PSP)
FF3 - FC
FF4 - PSP (I dunno yet, though, since it hasn't been too long since I've played FF4, so I might omit it. FWIW, I have the SNES, PS1, WSC, DS, PSP, GBA versions)
FF5 - GBA (hopefully coinciding with the fiesta; GBA version is much easier to take screens with and I can get through it faster than using my SFC copy)
FF6 - SNES
FF7 - PS1 (I have the 1998 PC version (which won't work on my current computer), the Steam version, and the PSN version too)
FF8 - PS1
FF9 - PS1
FF10 - Vita (may omit since I played this last year)
FF12 - PS2 (IZJS)
FF13 - PS3 (JP)

I should be playing a bit of FF14 this year so I guess it'll count towards that.  I don't know about FF11 yet.
I could squeeze in FFMQ since that usually takes me under 8 hours to beat now.  Not sure about other spinoffs yet. 

I usually do hard mode for the FF5 Fiesta so the chances of me being hit with two berserkers again is pretty high, so that might take me a bit, and I wanted to spend a little more time with Final Fantasy 3 FC since it's been a while since I've played through it fully.

I don't think I'll play everything consecutively because I have some other games from other series to try out for the first time (and they've been sitting in a newly-created backlog for a while now), and I really don't want to get tired of playing through the series.  Playing through the series should be cool, especially since they're revisits after years of not playing stuff.
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Post by: demi on April 16, 2015, 01:07:13 PM
SpeedStats tell yer friend to read PM thanks.
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Post by: suppadoopa on April 16, 2015, 01:20:04 PM
speedstats, if you want a challenge for FFIII & IV, I'd recommend the DS versions.
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Post by: SpeedStats on April 16, 2015, 01:29:16 PM
SpeedStats tell yer friend to read PM thanks.

Done.  Hope he gets back to you soon.

speedstats, if you want a challenge for FFIII & IV, I'd recommend the DS versions.

Yeah, that's why I wasn't sure about FF4. I've only done two playthroughs for FF4 DS so that means I have one more playthrough available for augment assignment, I think?  I could also do that since it wouldn't be as slow.  I had chosen the PSP version since it has auto-battle, and generally is much faster than the DS version, but I still wasn't sure.  Thanks for bringing it up!  I didn't think that far ahead.  :)

As for FF3, I kinda don't want to touch the DS version with a 10 metre stick, haha.  I'm a bit more partial to FF3 FC.  The soundtrack, in my opinion, is better than the DS version's, it's faster and more balanced, has better enemy distribution/class/stat distribution, and it has great tilesets and spritework for its time.  Plus I'm a bit bummed that you can't do the mail thing in the DS version anymore since the wifi is down now.

But it's more or less because I keep starting playthroughs of the FC version, getting too busy IRL to continue, and then dropping the playthrough.  That won't happen this time, I hope.

Thanks for your suggestions, though.  I'll keep yours in mind for when I get to FF4. :D

fwiw, I'd chosen FF13 JP since that was my first experience with it and because I can see it as soon as I look at my shelf.  I could pick the English version if I'd wanted to but I'm not sure where my copy is atm.
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Post by: bork on April 16, 2015, 01:35:35 PM
Please refrain from using that word...
Kagari's SUPER SECRET SOURCE says this rumor is fake, unsurprisingly.
Fuck that bitch.
Order is XIII > LR > XIII-2 for me.

Did you go back and find a post from 2012 just to say that?  You weren't kidding about creeping, were you? 
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Post by: suppadoopa on April 16, 2015, 01:47:22 PM


As for FF3, I kinda don't want to touch the DS version with a 10 metre stick, haha.  I'm a bit more partial to FF3 FC.  The soundtrack, in my opinion, is better than the DS version's, it's faster and more balanced, has better enemy distribution/class/stat distribution, and it has great tilesets and spritework for its time.  Plus I'm a bit bummed that you can't do the mail thing in the DS version anymore since the wifi is down now.


FFIII DS was my first exposure to the game so I'm a bit partial to it. I remember playing it and was a bit surprised that it was quite a "challenge" compared to past/future FF games games I've played (And in hindsight, not until IV DS and hard mode on LR)

I later played the PSP version and thought it was alright - but something about the aesthetics was turning me off (could be it was bloomed up compared to the DS version). I knew enough moon to get by the Famicom version also. It was alright. I do prefer the sountrack on the Famicom version
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Post by: SpeedStats on April 16, 2015, 02:01:02 PM


As for FF3, I kinda don't want to touch the DS version with a 10 metre stick, haha.  I'm a bit more partial to FF3 FC.  The soundtrack, in my opinion, is better than the DS version's, it's faster and more balanced, has better enemy distribution/class/stat distribution, and it has great tilesets and spritework for its time.  Plus I'm a bit bummed that you can't do the mail thing in the DS version anymore since the wifi is down now.


FFIII DS was my first exposure to the game so I'm a bit partial to it. I remember playing it and was a bit surprised that it was quite a "challenge" compared to past/future FF games games I've played (And in hindsight, not until IV DS and hard mode on LR)

I later played the PSP version and thought it was alright - but something about the aesthetics was turning me off (could be it was bloomed up compared to the DS version). I knew enough moon to get by the Famicom version also. It was alright. I do prefer the sountrack on the Famicom version

Oh, I forgot they ported it to the PSP/iOS/Steam, too.  Man, these games get ported so much lately that I keep forgetting that some of them are on Steam / PSN / iOS now, lol.  Did they do any stat rebalancing, speeding up, or anything?  Or is it just graphical touch-ups? 

Last year I did an Ultima series runthrough, but since I'd played those games a lot, it didn't feel as difficult as when I first started playing them when I was a kid.  I don't think I'll have difficulties with anything for this series' playthrough unless I decide to use a hard mode patch for something, adopt some handicaps (like I am for FF1), get screwed for job selection for FF5's Job Fiesta, or flub some stuff up in IZJS. 

If you have any suggestions for spinoffs to add on, my ears are open.  A friend of mine finally played 4 Heroes of Light this year and since he talked about it for a while, I started to feel like I should replay it.  I enjoyed it, despite the inventory being small. 

Not touching Dirge or Revenant Wings, though.  I played LR last year, and Type-0 between 2013/2014 so I'm not sure if I'll play those either.
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Post by: archnemesis on April 16, 2015, 02:04:03 PM
Revenant Wings wasn't awful. I enjoyed it about as much as I enjoyed FF12.

Final Fantasy: Record Keeper is pretty fun and it should appeal to people feeling nostalgic about the series.
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Post by: SpeedStats on April 16, 2015, 02:08:01 PM
Yeah, I've been playing the Japanese version of FFRK lately and it's pretty much one of the biggest reasons why I want to do the series' playthrough.  I finished the FF Brass de Bravo event earlier, which was pretty fun since the music changed up for the entire event (vs the Crisis Core event not having changed music at all).  Definitely recommend FFRK to anyone.  The JP FF Portal app finally has Triple Triad, too.

I think I got more frustrated with Revenant Wings because the controls didn't jive with me at the time.  That's pretty much the only thing I remember about it, as it's been years since I've played it.
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Post by: demi on April 16, 2015, 02:13:38 PM
Go for broke. Play spinoffs too.

:rejoice Crystal Bearers

:rejoice Tactics

:rejoice Crystal Chronicles

:rejoice Rings of Fate

:rejoice 4 Heroes of Light
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Post by: suppadoopa on April 16, 2015, 02:15:48 PM

Oh, I forgot they ported it to the PSP/iOS/Steam, too.  Man, these games get ported so much lately that I keep forgetting that some of them are on Steam / PSN / iOS now, lol.  Did they do any stat rebalancing, speeding up, or anything?  Or is it just graphical touch-ups? 


If you have any suggestions for spinoffs to add on, my ears are open.  A friend of mine finally played 4 Heroes of Light this year and since he talked about it for a while, I started to feel like I should replay it.  I enjoyed it, despite the inventory being small. 


III PC version is just a port of the DS version IIRC. The real idiocy here is that the IV PC port is a port of the mobile version which was a port of the DS version.

4HoL was pretty forgettable imo. I seriously forgot what happened in that game. It's a safe bet to say something about crystals is occurring in that game. heh

For spinoffs, I usually tell people to check out the Crystal Chronicles series. The original on the GameCube and Echoes of Time on the DS/Wii are my favorites.
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Post by: Narolf on April 16, 2015, 02:16:26 PM
Did you go back and find a post from 2012 just to say that?  You weren't kidding about creeping, were you?
That one time Rahx got called out for misogynistic slur stayed on my mind because that was literally the only time I saw a moderator of The Bore calling out a member after years of lurking.

It is virtually impossible to get banned on this forum.
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Post by: demi on April 16, 2015, 02:17:37 PM
I wouldnt go that far. :)
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Post by: Narolf on April 16, 2015, 02:20:26 PM
At any rate, I will not feel bullshitted if I do end up getting banned in here...
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Post by: SpeedStats on April 16, 2015, 02:25:47 PM
Yoooo, I'll definitely play Crystal Bearers.  The protagonist in that game was great. 

Crystal Chronicles series never gets the love it needs. 

III PC version is just a port of the DS version IIRC. The real idiocy here is that the IV PC port is a port of the mobile version which was a port of the DS version.

4HoL was pretty forgettable imo. I seriously forgot what happened in that game. It's a safe bet to say something about crystals is occurring in that game. heh

For spinoffs, I usually tell people to check out the Crystal Chronicles series. The original on the GameCube and Echoes of Time on the DS/Wii are my favorites.

Wow, that DS -> Mobile -> PC conversion for FF4 is weird.  I guess they wanted it to look crisper, but if they didn't do that for FF3, then I dunno. 

I haven't ever played Echoes of Time, though.  I'd have to find a copy, but that's a long ways off yet.   I haven't played FFCC since 2006, though.  I think it's time to return~
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Post by: suppadoopa on April 16, 2015, 02:29:18 PM
I'd love to see a return of Crystal Chronicles. I'm still salty that Nintendo funds shit like Devil's Third but doesn't help SE with the CC series anymore.
A remake of the GC would be perfect on the WiiU. The gamepad could act as the GBA.

Oh well, I suppose Nintendo has the Bravely Series going on (and DQ to some extent)
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on April 16, 2015, 02:30:52 PM
Crystal Chronicles series never gets the love it needs. 

Maybe if the game people remember the most/are most fondly about didn't require you to take out a bank loan to be able to play "right".  :shh

Where's our online-enabled remake for that
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Post by: Positive Touch on April 16, 2015, 02:47:20 PM
Go for broke. Play spinoffs too.

:rejoice Crystal Bearers

:rejoice Tactics

:rejoice Crystal Chronicles

:rejoice Rings of Fate

:rejoice 4 Heroes of Light

that's what I'm doing. played the main games a million billion times, plus I took a break from the series after 13 and missed some games.

doing theatrhythm curtain call and record keeper and loving them (tho WHERE ARE THE DAMN FF8 LEVELS IN RK), and after that I'm gonna do revenant wings, after years, and 4 heroes. still unsure about Crystal chronicles bc I hated what I played of the GameCube one. might get the wii one.
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Post by: suppadoopa on April 16, 2015, 02:48:28 PM
I didn't like the RTS aspect of Revenant Wings.
I wish it was traditional turnbased or ATB
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Post by: Joe Molotov on April 16, 2015, 03:43:10 PM
I played Final Fantasy Mystic Quest and Chocobo's Mysterious Dungeon Wii, get on my level. :rejoice

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Still haven't finished VI. :shh
[close]
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Post by: Positive Touch on April 16, 2015, 05:32:51 PM
I bought mystic quest back when it came out, solely bc of the $40 price tag. finished it before the free guide arrived in the mail.

still wish I had that guide, as it seems like it's not that common.
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Post by: SpeedStats on April 17, 2015, 01:55:12 AM
Mystic Quest's music is hot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuuYZAuR_pc

By one of my fave composers of all time... who doesn't work in game composition anymore.  Oh well.  Rudra no Hihou is my fave soundtrack of his.

(tho WHERE ARE THE DAMN FF8 LEVELS IN RK)

FF8 levels will come in an update.  JP version got them in the third update for the game (the game updated monthly), so I hope the EN version updates soon for people who want them.  Plus you'll probably get FF8 events soon enough. 
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Post by: Positive Touch on April 17, 2015, 07:59:49 AM
thanks! right now the game has mostly centered around ff7 and I want them to switch it up some. that game is almost twenty years old and I'd like to think it doesn't hold the same monopoly in popularity as it used, on account of younger fans of the series.
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Post by: ZephyrFate on April 17, 2015, 02:19:44 PM
Magicite farming has made getting lower level elemental orbs much easier.
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Post by: suppadoopa on April 17, 2015, 02:27:41 PM
thanks! right now the game has mostly centered around ff7 and I want them to switch it up some. that game is almost twenty years old and I'd like to think it doesn't hold the same monopoly in popularity as it used, on account of younger fans of the series.

games such as VII, X, and XIII command popularity with the younger/teens (if tumblr is anything to go by)
VIII & to a lesser extent VI is up there with the younger crowd as well. With XII, IX I-V ignored
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Post by: SpeedStats on April 17, 2015, 04:43:18 PM
Well, the updates in FFRK JP went like this:

Game Release:
spoiler (click to show/hide)
tutorial
[FF7 / FF10] (Reactor No. 1 / Zanarkand)
[FF4 ①] (Beginning to Baron Castle 2nd time)
[FF5] (Wind Temple to North Mountain)
[FF6 ①] (Narshe to South Figaro Cave 2nd time)
[close]

Update 1 (Oct) - FF1 and FF2 were added
spoiler (click to show/hide)
[FF6 ②] (Phantom Train to Ultros battle)
[FF6 ③] (Airship Entry to Magic Continent to Escape from Magic Continent)
[FF1] (Chaos Temple to Astos (boss)
[FF2] (Semitt Falls to Snow Cavern)
[FF4 ②] (Lodestone Cavern/Metallic Cave to Summon Cave battles - it's really really long)
[FF6 ④] (Solitary Island to Daryl's Grave)
[close]

Update 2 (Nov) - this is when FF8, FF3, and FF13 were added
spoiler (click to show/hide)
[FF8] (Fire Cavern to Tomb of the Unknown King)
[FF13] (Hanging Edge to Vile Peaks (Odin Battle))
[FF1 ②] (Earth Cave to Gulug Volcano)
[FF2 ②] (Dreadnaught)
[FF3] (Altar Cave to Nepto Shrine)
[FF10 ②] (Kilika Forest to Mi'ihen Highroad)
[FF5 ②] (Walse Castle to Ancient Library)
[close]

Update 3 (Dec) - FF9 and FF12 were added
spoiler (click to show/hide)
[FF13 ②] (Gapra Whitewood to Sunleth Waterscape)
[FF8 ②] (D-District Prison to Fisherman's Horizon)
[FF9] (Prima Vista to Burmecia)
[FF12] (Nalbina Dungeons to Lhusu Mines)
[FF3 ②] (Tower of Owen to Goldor Manor)
[FF7 ②] (Gaia Highway to Shinra Cargo Ship)
[FF13 ③] (Palumpolum)
[close]

Update 4 (Jan)
spoiler (click to show/hide)
[FF7 ③] (Corel Prison to Gi Cave)
[FF1 ③] (Ice Cavern to Flying Fortress)
[FF2 ③] (Deist Cavern to the Leviathan)
[FF7 ④] (Nibelheim to Temple of the Ancients)
[FF6 ⑤] (Death Gaze to Cave on the Veldt)
[close]

Update 5 (Feb)
spoiler (click to show/hide)
[FF10 ③] (Mushroom Rock Road to Macalania Lake)
[FF1 ④] (Chaos Temple Pt 1 to Pt2)
[FF4 ③] (Sealed Cave to Giant of Babil)
[close]

Update 6 (March)
spoiler (click to show/hide)
[FF2 ④] (Mysidia Tower)
[FF9 ②] (South Gate to Cleyra)
[FF5 ③] (Desert of Shifting Sands to the Catapult)
[FF9 ③] (Alexandria Castle)
[close]

update 7 (march)
spoiler (click to show/hide)
[FF3 ③] (Dragon Tower to Saronia Catacombs)
[FF2 ⑤] (The Cyclone to Jade Passage)
[FF13 ④] (Nautilus Park)
[FF5 ④] (Tycoon Meteorite to Ronka Ruins)
[close]

Update 8 (April)
spoiler (click to show/hide)
[FF10 ④] (Sanubia Desert to Via Purifico Pt 1)
[FF13 ⑤] (Palamecia)
[FF5 ⑤] (Walse Meteorite to Exdeath's Castle)
[close]

The JP version is getting an update later this month for more FF8, FF10, and FF12 stuff, and then FF5/FF12 in May.

I think they might be changing up some release and event schedules for the western version, though. They already did by switching the FF7 and FF4 events around (since FF4 came first and then FF7 afterwards in the JP version).  They already changed the FF4 story segments and backgrounds from the sprites in the JP version to the DS/iOS versions.  So yeah, they are trying to make it more accessible for western audiences being more familiar with certain games over others. 

As for me, these FF5 updates are way too far apart. :(
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Post by: ZephyrFate on April 17, 2015, 04:54:50 PM
Yasss FFIX  :D
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on April 17, 2015, 06:40:33 PM
They might change the event schedule, but I don't think they'll touch the updates proper. Clearing the current FF6 stuff gives you a teaser for the next update and it has the phantom train stuff (and one more, but I forgot what it is).
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Post by: Lucretius on April 24, 2015, 03:16:14 AM
So I just beat Turn 13 (the highest level raid) in Final Fantasy XIV.  Bahamut is dead.  I have now cleared all the content in FFXIV.  Damn, I love that game.
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Post by: Positive Touch on April 24, 2015, 09:51:08 AM
https://youtu.be/0G5tD8zSjNo

new intro for Steam release of the After Years remake
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Post by: demi on April 24, 2015, 10:06:46 AM
3D version cut some stuff out compared to the 2D one, particularly the "Challenge Dungeons". All the cameo bosses in the final chapter have been axed as well. Unsure if the super boss Proto Babil is in still as well.

They changed how the Band system works as well. Instead of experimenting, you simply learn them after so many battles, as long as you use the party required in said battles. Bands can also be leveld up to be stronger.

Theres probably other things. But if you havent played After Years its a good entry. I'd much rather just play PSP ver.
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Post by: recursivelyenumerable on April 24, 2015, 10:23:52 AM
Mystic Quest's music is hot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuuYZAuR_pc

By one of my fave composers of all time... who doesn't work in game composition anymore.  Oh well.  Rudra no Hihou is my fave soundtrack of his.

he came back from the grave to do the SaGa 3 DS remake soundtrack!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cFR80ZbORw
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Post by: recursivelyenumerable on April 24, 2015, 10:27:50 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDA5XthEyKw
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Post by: Positive Touch on April 24, 2015, 10:44:16 AM
3D version cut some stuff out compared to the 2D one, particularly the "Challenge Dungeons". All the cameo bosses in the final chapter have been axed as well. Unsure if the super boss Proto Babil is in still as well.

They changed how the Band system works as well. Instead of experimenting, you simply learn them after so many battles, as long as you use the party required in said battles. Bands can also be leveld up to be stronger.

Theres probably other things. But if you havent played After Years its a good entry. I'd much rather just play PSP ver.

kinda sucks to hear that, especially since the ios/steam version of ff4 cut a few minor things too. still bought after years remake on my phone and am enjoying it. I never played the 2d version. and even tho this is content-recycle city I don't mind it because I played ff4 so much that I couldn't even bring myself to go through the remake, and this ends up feeling like a remix instead of another trip thru it.
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Post by: Positive Touch on April 24, 2015, 10:44:54 AM
man I wish theatrhythm had a few more mystic quest songs in it :/
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on April 24, 2015, 01:05:40 PM
https://youtu.be/0G5tD8zSjNo

new intro for Steam release of the After Years remake
Its from the PSP version.
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Post by: Positive Touch on April 24, 2015, 01:50:38 PM
:/ stupid press release tricking me
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on April 24, 2015, 01:58:57 PM
Or you can just pick a better way to spend your time than playing The After Years.
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on April 24, 2015, 02:52:53 PM
Been playing FF Type-0 HD a lot lately. I played a bit of the PSP game a while back, but not enough to really get a feel for it.

Pros:
World map!
Very different plotline for a FF game.
Battle system is fun once I figured it out.
Some of the music is gorgeous. Love the interpretation of the FF theme.

Cons:
Oh god the camera. Who thought this was acceptable?
Could you make using items any more convoluted?
Inconsistent remaster. Some stuff looks really nice while others look like they were ported straight from the PSP game.
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Post by: Positive Touch on April 24, 2015, 03:59:57 PM
Or you can just pick a better way to spend your time than playing The After Years.

:/ yeah I know it's not great but like I said it's more fun to me than going thru ff4 again. plus it's final fantasy I one day I will play them all dammit.


and it's still better than ff13
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on April 24, 2015, 04:06:25 PM
No it isn't.
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Post by: suppadoopa on April 24, 2015, 08:53:54 PM
I'm not hopeful for FFIVAY on steam. Every steam release for FF games (sans the MMOs) has been butchered in a lot of ways. Seems like the only PC game Square got right the first time that isn't from their western studios is the Last Remnant

Still getting it though for reviewing purposes,
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Post by: studyguy on April 24, 2015, 09:27:48 PM
XIV Tokyo Event going down. (http://live2.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv218294890)

Lots of kawaii neko and shit, fucking YoshiP is a disgusting catboy again smh
Expecting Heavensward benchmark, hopefully it's DX11
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on April 24, 2015, 09:32:54 PM
Yoshi-P is cool. I wish we could see more video game directors have as much fun with the games they make as he does, cosplaying as a character in the game.

(http://i.imgur.com/Rpuv7Gx.jpg)

Meanwhile Toriyama writes cringey poems about how much he wants to fuck Lightning.  :yuck

(http://i.imgur.com/JOvx8IZ.jpg)
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Post by: suppadoopa on April 24, 2015, 10:24:37 PM
the new SE figs are soooooooo cute  :uguu

gonna cop the Lightning and Squall one for sure
http://i.imgur.com/bkqSJsh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/wfTmDcr.jpg
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on April 25, 2015, 12:34:59 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGOIF_7vuLw
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Post by: studyguy on April 25, 2015, 12:58:09 AM
Dem new skills.
Dat PLD mitigation
Dat new PLD rotation

Dat WAR getting shit all taking a back seat once DRK appears.

PLD/DRK combo here we come.
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on April 25, 2015, 01:18:47 AM
I noticed that the PLD in that video did Shield Lob > Riot Blade > New skill. Makes me wonder if Shield Lob is being made to work as a combo starter like Fast Blade.

Also nine people in that party, though that's probably just a flair for the trailer. Who would have a summoner in the party in the first place?  :teehee
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Post by: studyguy on April 25, 2015, 01:41:02 AM
I noticed that the PLD in that video did Shield Lob > Riot Blade > New skill. Makes me wonder if Shield Lob is being made to work as a combo starter like Fast Blade.

Also nine people in that party, though that's probably just a flair for the trailer. Who would have a summoner in the party in the first place?  :teehee

Hoping they just make shield lob a blanket opener that can lead into Riot / Savage.
I dunno, it'd be less of a burden on TP I guess. Shield lob > a full combo vs Shield lob > 2 GCD skills.

If it's the ONLY opener to the second riot combo then the team is fired though...

Also... MUH SPELLSPEED SMN! Gotta take advantage before YoshiP and the team realize they made a mistake and ruin it all over again. Can't have SMN being useful, no sir.
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on April 25, 2015, 02:21:48 AM
Oh yeah, I mean Shield Lob being an option for combo starter, not the only one. Like, maybe even doing Shield Lob > Savage Blade > Halone to build hate faster on pulls, then doing Fast Blade > blah as usual. It'd fuck with my muscle memory so badly but whatever, I'll adapt. All those new actions are already making me dread how much I'll have to reconfigure all my hotbar setups.

It's funny how BLM is pretty much guaranteed to never be bad cause it's Yoshi's main job. Everyone else has to go throw growing pains.  :lol
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Post by: studyguy on April 25, 2015, 02:28:12 AM
BLM's next skills basically looks like Flare 2.

Which means the entire rotation meta will now be how to best pop it 4 times in a row.
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on April 25, 2015, 02:30:33 AM
I think what they showed off was the buff before the flare, not the flare itself. That looked like the normal ass one, hence why they didn't focus too much on it.

Really wanna know what that huge shield the paladin did was though.  :drool I'm all about that extra mitigation.
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Post by: studyguy on April 25, 2015, 02:34:55 AM
I think what they showed off was the buff before the flare, not the flare itself. That looked like the normal ass one, hence why they didn't focus too much on it.

Really wanna know what that huge shield the paladin did was though.  :drool I'm all about that extra mitigation.

I'd wager it's a single hit Hallowed Ground style mitigation.
Like perfect dodge basically. I'd be down with that.
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on April 25, 2015, 02:36:05 AM
Probably still better than any mitigation WAR gets.  :dead

 :piss Holmgang :piss2
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Post by: SpeedStats on April 25, 2015, 03:28:39 AM
When I finally play FF14, I'm going Ninja Lalafell, brehs.

Can't stop da Lalafell!

(http://i.imgur.com/MvanEtH.gif)

he came back from the grave to do the SaGa 3 DS remake soundtrack!

Yeah, he and Ito arranged everything on that one.  I've been trying to go through archives and a few soundtracks that I've suspected sound like him, but as far as I know there's a gigantic leap from Bushido Blade 2 to SaGa 3 DS, so he really hasn't stayed in game composition.  And that's pretty consistent with one of the interviews I've read.  It's kind of a shame because his sound would jive very well with today's technology  Oh well!

I have a copy of SaGa 3 DS but I don't want to jump into it yet.  I really loved the original game, so I'm looking forward to starting it up when I'm finished with Theatrhythm: Dragon Quest (which is pretty great albeit not without some disappointments-- I should talk about it later, I guess).

3D version cut some stuff out compared to the 2D one, particularly the "Challenge Dungeons". All the cameo bosses in the final chapter have been axed as well. Unsure if the super boss Proto Babil is in still as well.

That's a bummer since those were some of the few things I liked about TAY. 

New music in TAY is very very good, though.  Wish Nakano did more stuff.

Been playing FF Type-0 HD a lot lately. I played a bit of the PSP game a while back, but not enough to really get a feel for it.

Pros:
World map!
Very different plotline for a FF game.
Battle system is fun once I figured it out.
Some of the music is gorgeous. Love the interpretation of the FF theme.

Cons:
Oh god the camera. Who thought this was acceptable?
Could you make using items any more convoluted?
Inconsistent remaster. Some stuff looks really nice while others look like they were ported straight from the PSP game.

Is the camera really not that improved from the PSP version?  I remember it being a complete mess. 
And yeah, menus/item use was pretty weird in the PSP version, too. 

Otherwise, I heard from people who've played both that the HD remaster and the PSP versions, albeit being graphically inconsistent, that the remaster is a much better product than the original game.  And I think that's a good thing considering the original game had gotten delayed so many times, especially the last delay being a bit longer since demo feedback wasn't so great.  It had a bit more time to get more polished based on what people said over the years.
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on April 25, 2015, 11:42:05 AM
The camera pans ridiculously fast and they added an HD motion blur effect to it. It's migraine inducing at times.
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Post by: Lucretius on April 25, 2015, 01:12:57 PM
I've been maining Paladin for Final Coil.  Used to main Dragoon.  I'm assuming they'll give Dragoon more raid utility in Heavenward since they're featuring it so much in the trailers.  I may have to twist our Monk's arm to level a Paladin for Alexander so I can Jump on monsters again.
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Post by: studyguy on May 01, 2015, 03:37:57 PM
You know I haven't even beaten T13 yet.
Today's the day though. Just a matter of actually getting my static off its ass and trying for more than 30 minutes one day a week.

Just gotta finish those Anks and it's a wrap.
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Post by: Lucretius on May 01, 2015, 05:52:01 PM
What server are you on?
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Post by: SpeedStats on May 01, 2015, 06:18:04 PM
I finished Final Fantasy 1 last night.  Well, I played it twice in two days. I started one White Mage run with the NES version where I can't revive anyone if they die or get stoned and I was not allowed to upgrade to White Wizard, etc.  So by the time I got to Tiamat, I only had two White Mages left.  One died against the Water Shrine ghosts.  The other died since he got hit too hard in a random battle while poisoned.

Well, Sunblade jinxed me by mentioning the Warmech, and I ended up running into the damn Warmech on the bridge.  He went Nuclear on my party so I lost that challenge.  I was pretty sad!  I was on-track to beating the game in 7-8 hours, so getting beat up right before Tiamat was disappointing!

I started another run the next day with the PSP version, but Sunblade assigned my party: Black Belt, Thief, Red Mage, White Mage.  It was completely doable.  I was also allowed to upgrade.  I ended up finishing that run in 9.5 hours (pretty disappointing, but I ended up leaving the game idling for a little bit, so maybe that factored in).  Sunblade started his run when I started my first WM run, so I think it's semi-admirable that I caught up to him enough during my second run that we both beat the game an hour apart from each other.  I also had tremendous luck and ran into the Warmech AGAIN in my PSP run but I didn't wanna fight him since it felt like it was taking a while. 

:bow MUTE/INVS/SABR/FAST all day erryday  :bow2

So that makes it:
Final Fantasy I - NES - WM/WM/WM/WM - DNF (1 WM dead after Earth Cave, 1 WM dead against Water Shrine Ghosts, 2 WM dead because of NUCLEAR)
Final Fantasy I - PSP - NIN/WW/RW/MAS - Finished (Lv 44, did not do extra dungeons; 9h 31m <- bit disappointing!)

Final Fantasy II is next, but I'm not starting that until next week, and Sunblade never played it before.  I gave him a few tips on how to play it since I genuinely like FF2, so I'm giving him a few days to get used to the game before I jump in.  Plus I wanted time to beat another game and start a Legendary Starfy playthrough with someone else.

The camera pans ridiculously fast and they added an HD motion blur effect to it. It's migraine inducing at times.

Ugh, yeah, that sounds like it'd suck.  I guess there's no way to adjust the sensitivity, but even then if there's motion blur, it's still gonna be a headache to deal with.  That's really a bummer!  I was hoping the camera would be much better.
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Post by: studyguy on May 01, 2015, 06:18:48 PM
What server are you on?

Excal
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on May 01, 2015, 07:25:21 PM
I play on Hyperion. Shame that the game isn't more open for cross-server stuff.

I'm trying to get my FC friends started with a static of our own, we're just one person short so we'd have to pug him/ask other friends for help. We still haven't done T9, but I'm hopeful of our chances at beating T13 before Heavensward.

stuff

(http://i.imgur.com/zozwJf0.jpg)

He loves you.

I HAVE played FF2 before, just never gotten close to beating it. Going through FF1 again was fun though, even if a lot easier than I remember it being. Though not having a Black Mage for group attacks really sucked. Red Mage is so garbage in FF1.
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Post by: SpeedStats on May 01, 2015, 08:23:43 PM
Fuck you.  You did that to me.  :maf

Also, yeah RM is garbage.  Being a jack of all trades is useless if you can't do everything competently and have to rely on using equipment as items.
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Post by: studyguy on May 02, 2015, 12:42:25 AM
My static was a noshow  :-\
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Post by: Narolf on May 02, 2015, 04:27:53 AM
(http://www.legendra.com/media/imageinfo/play4/final_fantasy_xv/final_fantasy_xv_imageinfo_4.jpg)
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on May 02, 2015, 05:10:05 AM
My static was a noshow  :-\

Sucks.  :goty2

Hope you have better luck on your next scheduled date.

Started Final Fantasy 2 today. SpeedStats baby'd me through the earlier parts so now I actually understand what I'm doing in regards to raising my party and getting stronger. Playing the PS1 version, which I've heard is the hardest (not including NES). Having a lot more fun with it, Kawazu's blasted empty rooms of hell be damned.
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Post by: SpeedStats on May 02, 2015, 05:24:32 AM
You need to respect Lord Kawazu-sama's work.  He knew what he was doin'.

PS1 version isn't necessarily the hardest, but it's probably the most balanced version available in English.  PSP/GBA has stats growing faster than the PS1 version.

I'm a bit glad I helped you along at the beginning to prevent you from playing it like how people think it should be played since that way you'll progress through the game much faster than just staying in one place and not progressing at all.  The game's balanced enough to play naturally instead of beating yourself up.  I appreciate the game, honestly.  It's one of my faves in the series not just because of its soundtrack being not as lofty and because of its narrative/lots of good ideas, but also because I sorta appreciate the numbers behind the growth/stat system.

I'll start it next week but it'll take a while for me to catch up.  Move on to FF3 when you're finished; don't wait for me.

I started Final Fantasy Gaiden and I'm getting through it faster than I expected.  I'm at Guera now, but I want to stop and read my book for a bit.  I still like it!  I'm used to inventories being limited per character in other games, and while it's not much of a luxury in terms of modern game design, I like that you can blast through it without relying so much on your inventory.  You really don't need to because you should be balancing your party setup around it to mitigate relying so much on expendables. 

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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on May 02, 2015, 06:05:22 AM
I mean I figured "smack your own party to death" wasn't the way the game was designed, I just had no idea what the proper way to start things up was. I'll probably have to keep using spells on myself though, cause actually casting them on enemies won't ever get them leveled up at a reasonable pace. :zzz

I'll level up that dang toad spell for the perks, but I prob won't cheese boss fights with it. Would rather take 'em on proper.
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Post by: Positive Touch on May 02, 2015, 08:19:58 AM
I remember boss fights in the game being annoying af. I could go thru a whole dungeon one-shotting every enemy, but using the same attacks against the boss would do 0 dmg. you're supposed to exploit the bosses weaknesses, but when you've been casting spells the whole dungeon sometimes you just don't have mp to finish the fight.

and fuck those empty rooms
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on May 02, 2015, 11:44:05 AM
Yeah, those have been a mixed bag. I get the Adamantoise having high defense (tho fuck running into him as a random encounter in the dungeon RIGHT AFTER), but I ended up being the Shreiker in whats its name castle by using Shell to survive all its magic waves then chipping away 4-20 HP at a time until it died cause it absorbed all magic. I can't imagine that's the way he was intended to be beaten, but I didn't seem to have much of a choice.

But now I can reliably kill the Captains in Flynn, so my stats are soaaaaaring. :lawd
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Post by: Positive Touch on May 02, 2015, 12:03:46 PM
yeah just wait. in a dungeon or two you're gonna walk in, hit an enemy, and be like "wait wtf?? I thought I was doing pretty good!"
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Post by: SpeedStats on May 02, 2015, 02:04:57 PM
Hopefully that doesn't happen with the way I've been trying to teach him how to play the game.  I remember that happening to me in the NES ver but after a few runs of the game, I finally figured out how to play it on my terms.

I like SaGa games, so I like weird obtuse shit for god knows why.

Edit: I said that and Sunblade does a dumb thing and cast Toad on Gordon but forgot to realize that you can't use it out of battle and he doesn't have Esuna to lv 4. PLS.
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Post by: Positive Touch on May 02, 2015, 04:55:03 PM
so what is the good way to level up?  I'm tempted against my better judgement to play the game again someday
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on May 02, 2015, 05:09:23 PM
It was right before Gordon leaves the party, so no big deal. If Cid could rule Lindblum as an oglop, Gordon can lead the rebel army as a frog. :shh
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Post by: demi on May 02, 2015, 05:43:00 PM
so what is the good way to level up?  I'm tempted against my better judgement to play the game again someday

Hitting yourself
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Post by: Positive Touch on May 02, 2015, 06:01:20 PM
bad demi
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Post by: SpeedStats on May 02, 2015, 06:20:48 PM
so what is the good way to level up?  I'm tempted against my better judgement to play the game again someday

Well, I'd suggested to Sunblade, since he hasn't beaten the game before, to play the PSP version since everything levels up faster in that version.  He chose the PS1 version, though, so he's had to deal with everything levelling up in a more balanced way as opposed to being a little easier on him. 

The game truly is balanced enough to facilitate you doing everything naturally after the beginning.  You just have to do a little bit of work at the beginning and then let it flow like a river.  Let your hair down, etc.

The best thing to do is to stop hitting yourself with one exception:  when you get Minwu, cast Sap/Anti/Faze (same spell, just different name depending on the version) on Maria and Firion to increase their MP.  Hitting yourself and leaving a rock on X or B is boring and it artificially inflates your play time.  Don't do it.  Leave everyone in the front row if you want their HP to increase that badly.

You don't even need to bother increasing MP with Guy; he's a hitter, he hits things.  You can give him a spell if you'd like and increase his MP to 100 with Sap but I generally don't see a need to do it.  His stats are not conducive to spellcasting to me, and I used to level up his MP and give him magic until I realized that his stats aren't for that at all.

So:

Firion: The most balanced guy. Magic stats are on par with physical stats so it's best to make him whatever you want.  I go with making him like a paladin or something.  I usually gave him swords and lances.  The biggest risk to Firion, if you were raising him as a paladin in the NES version was that giving him a sword would destroy his Spirit stat (and his intelligence stat) since they lowered those stats by 50!  Blood Sword lowers it by 100.  That risk doesn't exist in the PS1 version and beyond, so it isn't problematic to do so.  Giving him a lance in the NES version would lower it by 40 which isn't as bad as the 50 but it's still a dramatic drop.

Maria: The highest intelligence, the worst attack, the worst HP growth, the highest agility.  She's the best out of the three suited to be a Black Mage-like character.  I think it's kind of obvious as to where to take her here.  I stuck her with Staves and Daggers.  In the NES version, daggers and staves would give a -5 penalty to Intelligence/Spirit but that's WAY better than hte -70 that the bows take off.  None of these penalties exist in the PS1 version and beyond, but I usually stuck to daggers and staves.

Guy: Highest strength, HP.  Has high stamina.  Has the lowest Agility stat (meaning that 95% of the time he'll take the last hit... and if you're a spellcaster you don't want super-low agility here).  I guess if you wanted to give him spells, give him buffs that are unaffected by Spirit/Intelligence like Haste, Protect, Shell, etc.  I don't know if I'd agree with that since he'd probably be the last character to complete an action during a round and you'd probably need the buff at the beginning of the round, but it's up to you.  I usually stick him with Axes or barehanded.

Don't make everyone a jack of all trades.  That's the worst thing you can do, since you'll be spending a ton of time levelling everything up instead of actually playing the game.  And that's boring.  Give everyone 1-2 weapons to concentrate on and that's it.  No more otherwise you'll end up spending too much money on stuff you don't need and spending too much time levelling up weapons that you don't need to work with. I usually class everyone right at the beginning (ex: Firion is my paladin-like character, Maria's my Black Mage, and Guy is my monk; it's more effective that way, and it makes the game dramatically easier for me).  Level up weapons to Lv 2 at the beginning.  Some go to Lv 3 but you don't need to.  If you're playing the GBA/PSP version, though, things will level up faster than expected, so I guess you'll have an easier time with it.

When you first start playing, just buy Fire/Ice (you could buy thunder but I don't see why you'd immediately need it since not a lot of enemies at the beginning are weak against it), Cure, Raise, Esuna, and get them to Level 2-3.  I've seen people say get them to level 3 and then progress, but I don't feel like it's necessary in the GBA/PSP versions of the game.  So after you level up your spells a little bit at the beginning, just play the game normally.  The game's balanced enough that you don't need to grind things out or hit yourself.  After that you don't have to worry about stats at all because you've classed everyone and the game's balanced appropriately to keep everyone in check since you're accustomed to using everything in a class-based way.

Play the Snowcraft minigame.  There's a real good cheat out there on how to instawin every time and you'll get tons of money every time you play it (ex: play it once and write down where the cards are, when you're finished the game, say you want to play again, but then cancel the game.  When it asks if you wanna quit, say no, and repeat cancel the game/no i don't want to quit options 31 times, and it'll reload the first game you play so you can redo the first board again).  You can get some decent armour and some money from the game and it's easy enough to not have to do the cheat.

Could go to the swamp/peninsula of power near Finn and kill the enemies with magic to level some class-specific stuff up and get some cash.  Use said cash to go to Mysidia to buy stuff.  Then resume the game like normal.  Don't have to hit yourself or grind anything after that. 

And when all else fails just cast toad on everything after you get it, I guess.

I mean, SaGa/Legend of Legacy kinda uses the same levelling progression too, but with some tweaks, so that's why I'm used to it now.  FF2's system is just a barebones version of it.  I just hate grinding in any RPG since I feel like it wastes a lot of time, so I tried to make FF2 easier enough to prevent myself from doing it.  Since it worked out for me and since it's worked out with Sunblade, I guess the method works provided you aren't playing the NES version.  FF2 is just one of those games that gets better on nearly every re-release.
Title: Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on May 02, 2015, 10:48:58 PM
Assembled the static tonight (minus one person who is on an island vacation) to get our newest member through Turn 5 and Turn 6. We're definitely in a good spot in regard to jobs cause all of us are flexible enough that we can Duty Finder up a random DPS to fill in our missing 8th slot, if one of our big dick t13 farm friends can't make it. Had a few wipes while our newbies got the hang of mechanics, but otherwise went smoothly. Just from how tonight went, I think I ended up as designated raid leader for the time being. I've got high hopes for this team.  :obama

In FF2 news, I discovered the spell select glitch for leveling spells entirely on my own, then looked it up to confirm it. I used it to raise fire/ice/bolt/toad to level 5-6, but won't use it more than that. Just got them to a level where I'd actually consider using them over magic.
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Post by: SpeedStats on May 03, 2015, 02:41:48 AM
I didn't tell you about Select/Cancel for a reason!  >:(

Don't tell me this was what you were doin' while I was watching the MvP fight.
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on May 03, 2015, 03:33:38 AM
Nah that was last night. And I just said that I wouldn't abuse it!  :bolo
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Post by: Positive Touch on May 04, 2015, 07:36:52 AM
I definitely am; I think speedstats and sunblade are too
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Post by: demi on May 04, 2015, 08:07:42 AM
Nope
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on May 04, 2015, 09:18:56 AM
Speedstats plays the Japanese version, but I play the English one yeah. You'll be waiting a long while for FF12 dungeons, but 13 should be in the next content patch.
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Post by: archnemesis on May 04, 2015, 09:48:12 AM
I'm almost done with all the content in the English release of Record Keeper. Right now I'm auto-battling my way through the last FF6 Elite event.
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Post by: Positive Touch on May 04, 2015, 09:56:37 AM
they just put out a Celes event yesterday
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Post by: Narolf on May 04, 2015, 12:19:09 PM
https://www.change.org/p/square-enix-holdings-co-ltd-add-voice-overs-in-french-german-italian-spanish-and-portuguese-to-final-fantasy-xv
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Post by: SpeedStats on May 04, 2015, 06:18:05 PM
Speedstats plays the Japanese version, but I play the English one yeah. You'll be waiting a long while for FF12 dungeons, but 13 should be in the next content patch.

Yeah, I still play the JP version.  We have a Gold Saucer event going on right now that gives us lots of money and lots of XP, and there are lots of cute HUD stuff going on with it.  Otherwise, we get Cloud's Rebirth Crystal (lets him get up to Lv 65) and a Terra reprint event (after which I'm sure that we'll get her as a quest character like we do for Tifa, Lenna, Sephiroth, etc).

I did try to play the English version but I don't like the barebones version of the game after progressing so much in the JP version so I decided to drop it.

I haven't progressed much in the History stages since the events eat up my time, though.  I still have to play through a few updates to catch up to the current update release.
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on May 04, 2015, 09:07:34 PM
So I beat Final Fantasy II yesterday. Again, thanks to Speedstats for teaching me how to play the game right and avoid the usual "hit yourself to win" pitfalls that made me dislike the game whenever I tried it before. Going through the whole thing was pretty smooth sailing and I never felt underpowered relative to the things I was fighting, tho I did kind of just stop using magic altogether at one point aside from buffs and offensive magic to kill flans with. I even killed the four generals in Pandemonium just by holding down the X button while my party tore them to pieces. Definitely feel like the game is open enough where I could get away with that if I built my party towards it from the start, which I did.

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Just leaves FF3 as the only mainline non-MMO FF that I haven't beaten. I'll be doing the Famicom version of that since I'm told its infinitely better than the 3D remake, which I'm inclined to believe.
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Post by: SpeedStats on May 05, 2015, 01:52:45 AM
And going by what you've been saying to me all night, you like the Famicom version~  Glad I can help, brooooo. 

I'm going through FFII myself, with the PSP version cuz of mishaps with the Origins version (and in all honesty, I could've just picked the FC version and ran with that one).  In hindsight, it's a good thing cuz I can show and tell Sunblade the differences between the PSP one and the more-balanced Origins version.   I'm at the Dreadnought now, and I think that's pretty good progress considering I've been getting pulled away from playing stuff all the damn time today. It sucks cuz I see Sunblade talking up FF3 and I wish I'd started FF2 when I saw that he was halfway through the game. 

Instead, I chose to finish 4 Heroes of Light last night instead.  It was a ~29h run, and 4HoL is still a damn good game: very cohesive.  It has an artstyle, musical motifs and musical style, method of dialogue/enough colloquial text/lexicon, narrative, and character design that meshed together very very well without making something feel like it was out of the loop.  I think I like it more than BD in some ways. 

So I did end up going for broke and played a spinoff.  Could probably go mainline -> spinoff -> mainline but I think that might be too much, haha.
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on May 05, 2015, 02:46:48 AM
You have enough games to play this summer without throwing in spinoffs into this playthrough.  :wag Just stick to the numbered games.

(I'll allow you to play Mystic Quest, but only because I know you can beat that in like a day.)
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Post by: Kara on May 05, 2015, 03:12:24 PM
Why is there no PSN version of 12 for PS Triple. :stahp
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on May 05, 2015, 03:48:22 PM
Same reason the PSP versions of 1 and 2 aren't available digitally.  :-\

I hope there's a remaster or something announced by the time I get to FF12. Would be a pain to have to buy another PS2 just to play that game.
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Post by: SpeedStats on May 05, 2015, 04:17:53 PM
Why is there no PSN version of 12 for PS Triple. :stahp

I wouldn't be surprised if they did a remaster sooner or later since that's what everyone else is doing.  Plus it's easy moneys if you port it over 3000 times.
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Post by: Lucretius on May 05, 2015, 06:52:13 PM
Same reason the PSP versions of 1 and 2 aren't available digitally.  :-\

I hope there's a remaster or something announced by the time I get to FF12. Would be a pain to have to buy another PS2 just to play that game.

What exactly is the reason for the PSP versions of 1 and 2 (the Anniversary editions) not being on PSN?  I'd really love to play those on my Vita.
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Post by: demi on May 05, 2015, 07:49:30 PM
cuz square is jewish. ya i said it. jewish.

just buy the iOS versions, arent they literally the same thing
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Post by: Positive Touch on May 05, 2015, 07:55:34 PM
yes
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on May 05, 2015, 07:57:50 PM
Same reason the PSP versions of 1 and 2 aren't available digitally.  :-\

I hope there's a remaster or something announced by the time I get to FF12. Would be a pain to have to buy another PS2 just to play that game.

What exactly is the reason for the PSP versions of 1 and 2 (the Anniversary editions) not being on PSN?  I'd really love to play those on my Vita.

(http://i.imgur.com/E6Ua6UY.jpg?1)

They probably don't feel like putting up two separate, not as popular games on PSN is worth the cost over just sticking the PS1 classic up there which covers both.

I don't like playing retrofitted RPGs on mobile.  :-\
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Post by: Positive Touch on May 05, 2015, 08:00:24 PM
and I love the old ff games but god damn it is way beyond past time for square to do something with the ps1 trilogy. I mean we're coming up on ff7s 20th anniversary ffs. the most we've gotten with the games is digital rerelease on steam and PlayStation, and 9 never even made it to pc. they could've gave us phone ports by now, and more than that they could've easily added on some more content. I know it ain't that hard to digitize some pics, palette swap some monsters, and call it a day. just do SOMETHING ffs instead of letting the games fade away.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on May 06, 2015, 07:08:34 AM
I suspect that had the PSP been more successful software-wise, the PS1 triology would have made it on there.
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Post by: SpeedStats on May 07, 2015, 07:14:43 PM
I finished off FF2 two days ago.  I had a super-fun time, especially since I was playing it with someone else who seemed to enjoy it, and I talked about the game with other people.  It's still one of my top six games, I think.  I promised to play the Origins version when I finish my series playthrough since playing that version didn't really work out in terms of getting the game and getting it running on something well enough since I couldn't even find my copy of it.

I started FF3 Famicom, which is another one of my favourites.  Not much else to say other than the fact that I had to do some other stuff lately so I haven't been able to progress as fast in it as I did in FF1/2.  Someone suggested that I play an alternate translation of FF3 since it added a B-dash and a bunch of other things, so I'm trying it out and I feel like it really is way too literal but the perks are pretty cool.  Some of the text boxes are so stuffed with dialogue that are literally translated at times (and some names/towns are super-literally translated, like Desh's or Kazus's) that it can be hard to parse at times.  I can't say which translation I like more since both of them seem to have their merits, and I have a copy of the Japanese game for my Famicom so I can't complain.  B-dash is definitely appreciated since walk speeds can be slow.

Anyway, FF3 is fun.  I love this game.  It sucks that we never got that WSC re-release.  I would've bought it. :/
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on May 07, 2015, 07:24:38 PM
You're welcome.  ;)

I started FF3 Famicom as well. Like I told Speedstats before, I think this game is really hohum as a 3D game (on DS, PSP and Steam), but really impressive as a Famicom game. It's the first time I play a post FF1 famicom title, so I'm just mindblown by how complex the game is on a fucking NES. The job system and all its underlying mechanics, the overall quick speed at which everything loads compared to FF1 as well as the battle speed, etc. A lot of times I don't even have to hit fast forward on the emulator cause the game plays at a quick enough pace that I'm not bothered by it. Also tons of charm to the game that I didn't see coming, I thought it'd be as stiff as the script for the first game.

(http://i.imgur.com/yY2S9bK.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/8EDl1KV.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/rqLgI3U.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/H8x4hPr.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/TCgfmBF.png)

My biggest fear before playing was being put off by the Job capacity system thinking it'd be just as bad as the remake's Job Fatigue, but its been a total non-issue so far. This is definitely the best version of the game to play.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on May 07, 2015, 08:14:10 PM
I would have loved to have played a GBA port of FFIII.
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Post by: ZephyrFate on May 08, 2015, 03:05:53 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72IgH_CCW3E
chalk up another of the superior remastered tracks i totally forgot to look up until now.
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Post by: Narolf on May 08, 2015, 04:29:49 AM
Never understood the hate for the Remastered OST.
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Post by: Kara on May 08, 2015, 04:33:17 AM
FF fans hate change; which begs the question, why aren't they Dragon Quest fans instead?
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Post by: Narolf on May 08, 2015, 06:00:10 AM
That's true, DQ fans are more stable.
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Post by: tiesto on May 08, 2015, 03:26:08 PM
FF fans hate change; which begs the question, why aren't they Dragon Quest fans instead?

DQ changed a lot with the past 2 entries tho.  :-\
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Post by: SpeedStats on May 08, 2015, 04:43:49 PM
Almost finished FF3.  I finished the Cave of Darkness so I should be getting set to do a few more things and then get to Eureka~

This alternative fan translation is something else, lol.  But I forgot how dark FF3 can get.  Some of the stories are small vignettes and deal with different things.

(http://i.imgur.com/tm8cWZW.png) (http://i.imgur.com/mCzBvdF.png)

I think I'm having more fun seeing how literal the alternate translation is than comparing it with the original fantranslation.  It's so... interesting.  The guy's name is Gigameth/Gigames, not Gilgamesh.  Bit interesting how they went with Gilgamesh in this translation, haha.  I guess that's what you'd get out of ギガメス if you think too hard.

FF fans hate change; which begs the question, why aren't they Dragon Quest fans instead?

DQ changed a lot with the past 2 entries tho.  :-\

Exactly.  Tons of people seem to like Dragon Quest 9 and its new direction while I don't like it at all.  It's one of my least-fave DQ games.  Lots of people (fans and newcomers alike) say some good things about Dragon Quest X but I wouldn't know.  I don't think you can play it outside of Japan anymore.  I should ask.  I wouldn't be averse to trying it out for a little bit.

chalk up another of the superior remastered tracks i totally forgot to look up until now.

Yeah, when I reviewed the soundtrack, I had noticed that most of the tracks that are generally disliked are the ones that were originally composed by Hamauzu, and they are fairly overarranged in some spots within context.  Out of context, however, the music sounds fine, and the mixing on the soundtrack (and the soundtrack packaging) is fairly good.  The ones I like the most are the original Nakano tracks.  I've never had much love for most of the Uematsu tunes on the soundtrack since I felt that they were his weakest in the series altogether with a few exceptions. 

The arrangement and the mixing of At the End of the Abyss/Beyond the Darkness whatever you want to call it sounds pretty good.
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Post by: studyguy on May 08, 2015, 05:12:15 PM
Tonight's the fucking night. Time to fuck up Bahamut.
Assuming everyone shows up.
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Post by: Kara on May 08, 2015, 05:50:34 PM
Back off you nerds, the recent changes to Dragon Quest are the crux of the joke I made. :snoop
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Post by: Joe Molotov on May 08, 2015, 05:52:40 PM
Back off you nerds, the recent changes to Dragon Quest are the crux of the joke I made. :snoop

They made a Dragon Quest game after VIII?
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Post by: SpeedStats on May 08, 2015, 06:05:10 PM
Back off you nerds, the recent changes to Dragon Quest are the crux of the joke I made. :snoop

Should've said "Dragon Quest music".

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Since DQ9/10's soundtracks aren't very good.  :teehee
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Post by: Lucretius on May 08, 2015, 06:32:50 PM
Tonight's the fucking night. Time to fuck up Bahamut.
Assuming everyone shows up.

Once you get to the final phase, you can clear.  And once you clear, you'll find you can farm it pretty quickly.
Good luck!
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Post by: studyguy on May 08, 2015, 06:50:32 PM
Tonight's the fucking night. Time to fuck up Bahamut.
Assuming everyone shows up.

Once you get to the final phase, you can clear.  And once you clear, you'll find you can farm it pretty quickly.
Good luck!

We're already there. The real struggle is showing up to the fight tbh
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Post by: Rufus on May 08, 2015, 07:38:43 PM
http://www.gamesradar.com/making-final-fantasy-6/
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on May 12, 2015, 11:36:25 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/ydA0PhN.jpg)

water pony straight up plays Levi's theme as im walking around now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhZiZf0M-hQ

LEVIATHAN LEVIATHAN
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Post by: studyguy on May 12, 2015, 11:40:42 AM
REVIAATAN REVIAATANA RUH ROH REVIATAN REVIATANNN
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Post by: suppadoopa on May 12, 2015, 11:41:04 AM
listen to my story......

for a fifth time

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CE0OyfuUEAAVmxs.jpg:large
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Post by: Trent Dole on May 12, 2015, 01:34:51 PM
Is it really the fifth time,hmm... PS2, PS3, Vita, PS4... wiki says that's it for releases. Still kind of a lot. Do people like X that much or is it just the most well received thing that is easily ported?
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Post by: Kara on May 12, 2015, 01:47:35 PM
Is it really the fifth time,hmm... PS2, PS3, Vita, PS4... wiki says that's it for releases. Still kind of a lot. Do people like X that much or is it just the most well received thing that is easily ported?

Mechanically it's one of the least punishing FFs so babbies who suck at vidcons lap it up.
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Post by: demi on May 12, 2015, 01:50:51 PM
Is it really the fifth time,hmm... PS2, PS3, Vita, PS4... wiki says that's it for releases. Still kind of a lot. Do people like X that much or is it just the most well received thing that is easily ported?

Combination of both. Japan voted Yuna as most fav character when Square did a survey over there.

http://www.siliconera.com/2014/01/06/final-fantasy-airborne-brigade-players-vote-yuna-popular-heroine/
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Post by: suppadoopa on May 12, 2015, 01:54:22 PM
Is it really the fifth time,hmm... PS2, PS3, Vita, PS4... wiki says that's it for releases. Still kind of a lot. Do people like X that much or is it just the most well received thing that is easily ported?

I bought FFX a lot of times. So actually its more than 5 for me

and FFX was voted the 3rd game that was closely related to the PS brand
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=945481&highlight=
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Post by: Joe Molotov on May 12, 2015, 01:56:06 PM
Is it really the fifth time,hmm... PS2, PS3, Vita, PS4... wiki says that's it for releases. Still kind of a lot. Do people like X that much or is it just the most well received thing that is easily ported?

Well, I'm sure we're only a year or two away from a Steam Remasteredest Edition, just as soon as they get all the iOS stuff on there.
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Post by: studyguy on May 13, 2015, 05:03:53 PM
Oh I beat Bahamut a while ago since I last posted.

My static subsequently broke immediately afterwards since our off tank no longer subbed.
Fuck it least I finished it.
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on May 13, 2015, 07:34:57 PM
Ouch. At least you managed to clear it, yeah.  :lol
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Post by: studyguy on May 14, 2015, 03:23:13 PM
Ouch. At least you managed to clear it, yeah.  :lol

I've cleared a couple times with PUGs since the 15%.
Fuck I had a party where my OT actually died a couple times and we still cleared.
5% is doing a lot more than I thought
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Post by: Himu on May 14, 2015, 03:53:05 PM
Is it really the fifth time,hmm... PS2, PS3, Vita, PS4... wiki says that's it for releases. Still kind of a lot. Do people like X that much or is it just the most well received thing that is easily ported?

Mechanically it's one of the least punishing FFs so babbies who suck at vidcons lap it up.

FFX International with Expert Grid is actually one of the best balanced FF's ever made. Far more than any 3d FF except for maybe XII and XIII. Far better balanced VI, and arguably V.
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Post by: Trent Dole on May 14, 2015, 04:21:26 PM
Ah, so it IS arguably a fifth time if we count International! :lol
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Post by: Himu on May 14, 2015, 04:47:26 PM
Actually, I'd FFX Int. is better balanced than even XII. The problem with XII is that if you go after the hardest fights (hunts and marks) then you end up making the story too easy. FFX Int doesn't have that problem because you don't get the airship till the end of the game, and the only story sections left after that is the final dungeon anyways, so who cares. The story is pretty damn balanced too, and you can easily accidentally fuck up or make your characters lose progress by getting on the wrong grid due to it being so damn interconnected and subtle. Also, Omega Dungeon in INTL is tough. Omega Weapon alone went from having 99,999 hp in OG FFX to 999,999 HP and is null against all elements. FFX Int. is baller. 

Has better balance than XIII too, which is mostly snooze ville till chapter 8 or 9.
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Post by: Kara on May 14, 2015, 06:38:42 PM
International didn't come out in NTSC-NA until like 2013 right? Its improvements and changes can't explain the demand for rereleases.
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Post by: Himu on May 14, 2015, 06:49:03 PM
Actually, the FF western fanbase has always been vocal about not getting the International versions. FFX HD came out last year so that was the first time westerners got it. As for the other re-releases, Vita version came out at the same time as PS3 version. They are literally the same: FFX HD Remaster. Ps4 version is the HD remaster and just  SE milking shit like usual. I would not conflate the ps4 version of FFX HD Remaster as anything remotely dealing with demand and more to do with S-E's obsession with putting their FF products on as many platforms as possible.

Prior to the HD Remaster there had only been one release of FFX in the west.
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Post by: Kara on May 14, 2015, 07:14:17 PM
Is it too late for me to just cop to trolling. :stahp
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Post by: Positive Touch on May 14, 2015, 07:22:51 PM
don't get the port complaints when they're all basically the same version. just makes the game available to more people.
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Post by: Himu on May 14, 2015, 07:25:36 PM
Haha.

The only people I see excited for FFX/X-2 HD on ps4 are:

1. FFX fantards who must have it all
2. People like my friend who went 360 last gen and didn't have a PS3 or vita but now they have a ps4 so they can play it.
3. People who missed out last time in general, and that number is pretty small given I doubt there's many who missed it but actually want it.

I'm not sure the ps4 version will do well. I don't know why anyone who bought HD remaster last year would buy it again on ps4. There is literally no point beyond accessibility.

No one really cares except those select people. Guy with the Lightning av should tell you all you need to know about why he's buying ps4 HD remaster and likely has it on vita and PS3, haha.
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Post by: Positive Touch on May 14, 2015, 07:41:49 PM
gaf ain't representative of real life ofc. and accessibility is a pretty good reason for a a quick port. lotta people don't have ps3s or won't have them much longer.
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Post by: Himu on May 14, 2015, 08:16:15 PM
:yeshrug it's good to have it on more systems, but I see it selling more on steam than ps4.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on May 14, 2015, 09:19:52 PM
It's been about 13 years since I last played it.  Why not replay it?

I find myself buying a lot of remakes this generation because I missed out on a lot the past two generations.  Being broke/cheap does that to you.

Also I bet you anything the FFXIII trilogy is going to get remade on the PS4 as well.  Final Fantasy XVI will probably be an iOS game and SE knows there are a couple million people who'd replay a game they just played a couple of years ago.
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Post by: Himu on May 14, 2015, 09:58:59 PM
It's been about 13 years since I last played it.  Why not replay it?

I find myself buying a lot of remakes this generation because I missed out on a lot the past two generations.  Being broke/cheap does that to you.

Also I bet you anything the FFXIII trilogy is going to get remade on the PS4 as well.  Final Fantasy XVI will probably be an iOS game and SE knows there are a couple million people who'd replay a game they just played a couple of years ago.

They're already doing it. Like I said, S-E puts their games on every system they possibly can.

(http://livedoor.4.blogimg.jp/hatima/imgs/b/d/bd6b0cf5.jpg)
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on May 16, 2015, 05:11:02 PM
Looks like the PS4 version of FFX HD has uh, issues. Way to go square.

http://www.destructoid.com/final-fantasy-x-x-2-hd-remaster-on-ps4-looks-better-than-ever-but-has-major-problems-292113.phtml

That RNG bug sounds amazing. How do you even miss something like that?  :lol :lol
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Post by: Positive Touch on May 16, 2015, 09:00:59 PM
like every fucking jrpg since 1985 has got that right. no fucking idea how they fucked that up, but it's just unbelievable
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Post by: El Babua on May 16, 2015, 09:07:20 PM
Power of the PS4 turning our old JRPGs into scripted cinematic experiences. :rejoice
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Post by: Rufus on May 16, 2015, 09:09:07 PM
That's amazing.
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Post by: SpeedStats on May 26, 2015, 05:25:47 PM
Lotsa updates!

I took demi's advice and played through Four Heroes of Light! I beat it in 29.5 hours.  It's a great game.  It like it more and more every time I go through it, and the characters have good chemistry.  The artstyle, town design, character design, and character dialogue blend in very cohesively, moreso than Bravely Default at times.  Love the audio design most of all.

I also finished Final Fantasy 4 in 14 hours which isn't my best.  I'm not a big fan of FF4, even though I know that game like the back of my hand since I've played it so many times.  I played the PSP version since I wanted it finished faster (sorry for not going with the DS version, but I feel like that would've prolonged my suffering with the game's plot of fake suicides and fake deaths).  Basically for the PSP version, all you do is auto-battle the whole way through.  You can get through anything like that.  Even Evil Wall/Demon Wall/whatever.  I would've played the WSC version but I don't have any way of screencapping from my WSC, haha.  The WSC version is probably the best non-DS version.  I can't remember what I prodded the FF4 PSP version for, because I remember being very annoyed with one aspect of it, but maybe it'll come back to me in time. 

spoiler (click to show/hide)
(http://i.imgur.com/cQn21Wr.jpg)
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I played Final Fantasy 4: Interlude because Sunblade was busy writing finals and doing final projects and stuff, and I had to wait for him to start Final Fantasy 4.  That took me about an hour since I tried to rush it as fast as possible during a night when I couldn't get to sleep.  Final Fantasy 4: Interlude is pointless, really.  It's pretty bad storytelling, too, even if it does lead into The After Years.  And it's easy.  I barely leveled up since the twins can hold their own, Edge is a beast, and Cecil kinda sucks in it since his armour/weapons suck.  Basically all you need to know about FF4 Interlude is that Cecil is dumb cuz he can't tell that his wife is sick/pregnant, he can't name a kid worth a damn (especially evidenced by Ceodore's name), and he chases a fake Rydia across the whole world because he can't tell that she's a fake while Edge can. 

spoiler (click to show/hide)
(http://i.imgur.com/OzuKGbu.jpg)
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Then I played Final Fantasy: Mystic Quest.  As I said before, I love FFMQ, and I love how it kindled my love for VGM.  Great tilesets, great colour-use, fantastic OST, characters who don't even give a shit about the story just like you don't (even the final boss doesn't give a fuck), Tristam, good platforming, and a big ol' stretchy claw.  What a great game with some fun dungeons.  Finished in 7.3 hours.

(http://i.imgur.com/SDINMXK.png)

I decided to skip over Final Fantasy 5 because I wanted to do it for the FF5 Four Job Fiesta.  I didn't think I'd finish up to FF5 so fast and that I'd get to FF5 when the Fiesta started.  Well, it didn't start yet, so I'm left waiting.  It's a shame because I love FF5! It's my favourite FF!  So I skipped ahead to FF6, which I'm not entirely in love with, either.  It's been taking me a long time to get through it, but that's generally because of Final Fantasy XIV.

Sunblade convinced me to finally start Final Fantasy 14's free trial since I had some time off.  I don't play that many MMOs because I don't have time for them, and I mostly stopped in high school when I seemed to switch from playing mainly on PC to playing mainly on consoles/handhelds.  But holy crap, FF14 is amazing.  I haven't been this enthralled with an FF from the start since FFX-2 (esp. since it took a while for me to get into FF12 when I first played it). The guild stories are great and funny, the animations are funny, and the community's great.  The story took a bit for me to get into, but when it took off, it took off.  Can't wait to dive into the main game after my trial finishes, really, and finally be able to hire retainers and do more Lv 20 quests since my XP is currently going into the ether.  I'm having a lot of fun. 

I like that some classes rely on positioning when you're in a party.  Pairing up with Sunblade and other folks for parties is pretty fun!  I got a few things to Lv 20 on the trial already like ROG/PUG and I have a few days left to get LNC up there too, so I think I'm good for now.  Might try levelling Marauder since I like it more than Gladiator. 

So yeah, I finally get the hype behind FF14: ARR.  It's a very good game.  It isn't just the references to other FF games that do it for me, but it's the game itself and the stories it tells + mechanics and the community on the server I'm on.  One of the better MMOs I've played.

Looks like the PS4 version of FFX HD has uh, issues. Way to go square.

http://www.destructoid.com/final-fantasy-x-x-2-hd-remaster-on-ps4-looks-better-than-ever-but-has-major-problems-292113.phtml

That RNG bug sounds amazing. How do you even miss something like that?  :lol :lol

When you told me that, I was like, "Are you for reeeeaaaaal?" And then I found the videos and I had to laugh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4Iw_hM3VW0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVRCE6lDaxk

Jesus, how do you mess that up.
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Post by: demi on May 26, 2015, 05:45:18 PM
bring it to the ps4 they said

itll be the superior version they said
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on May 27, 2015, 02:21:22 AM
Not going to lie, I'm looking forward to the PS4 version of FF7.  It's been about 13 years since I last played it.  Then when I heard the Mako Reactor theme in Record Keeper, I wanted to play the game again.  I also want to play FF8 again and knowing Square, it will be out on Steam and PS4 since there is an existing PC version out there.  The only question is if FF9 will ever get uprezzed and ported out.
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Post by: Himu on May 27, 2015, 02:47:58 AM
That RNG vid is hilarious.

MLH: FF8 is already on Steam.

I highly suggest playing the Steam version of both VII and VIII.

It takes modding but they're the superior versions of the game when done right. PS4 version will not be moddable, and that makes the ps4 version useless.

FFVII modded

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yenxJaUTqow

FFVIII modded (my video):

https://youtu.be/0uHpjoec0gY
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on May 27, 2015, 03:16:18 AM
Those modded FF7 character models are some hot out of place garbage. :trash I'd rather keep playing the PS1 version if that's your example of superior.
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Post by: Himu on May 27, 2015, 04:32:08 AM
there are multiple benefits of mods. One benefit is better backgrounds for HD sets. The original bgs are pixelated. For the record, I agree. But there isn't one mod, there are multiple. The point of the video is to show that.

Want CD quality audio? You can do that. Want bgs that aren't pixelated on modern sets? You can do that. If you want to replace the models with shitty replacements, you can do that too.

The ps4 version will be the steam version (here's hoping not with midi music as seen in the original release). I highly doubt they are doing any sort of bells and whistles with that version.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on May 27, 2015, 04:58:40 AM
Wow, I guess I'm behind the curve on Final Fantasy games.  Square is whoring them out harder and sooner than I've realized, apparently.
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Post by: Positive Touch on May 27, 2015, 09:30:45 AM
how come ff7 fans never rewrote the script into something readable

and how come squeenix didn't either
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Post by: demi on May 27, 2015, 09:32:38 AM
how come ff7 fans never rewrote the script into something readable

and how come squeenix didn't either

http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=14914.msg209227#msg209227
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Post by: Himu on May 27, 2015, 03:01:39 PM
how come ff7 fans never rewrote the script into something readable

and how come squeenix didn't either

As demi said, they are.

Steam version of VII and VIII are the superior versions, no contest. My only problem with them is that I can't play them in Japanese. :( Steam versions have Spanish and all this other stuff, but I want to run through them in HD in Japanese dammit.
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Post by: Positive Touch on May 30, 2015, 10:23:02 PM
ya know what would be great? if square stuck an hd version of Midgar in ff14, just to troll
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on May 30, 2015, 11:25:25 PM
Golden saucer is already in there.  :yeshrug

Oh, I just remembered that I beat FF4 as part of the series playthrough thing. It was... FF4. Good music, really boring on a repeat playthrough, really easy overall. Played the Advance version with the super annoying font and weird overworld sprites. They messed up Zeromus' script and all he does is back to back Big Bang > Black Hole with nothing in between. zzzzz game.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on May 30, 2015, 11:59:14 PM
ya know what would be great? if square stuck an hd version of Midgar in ff14, just to troll

Gold Saucer, Midgar, North Crater next, until they've remade FFVII piece by piece in XIV.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 31, 2015, 12:41:22 PM
Goddamit tht RNG bug in X for ps4 is hilarious.  And I fucking bought it too  :-\
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Post by: archie4208 on June 01, 2015, 09:07:04 AM
Type-0 coming to PC (http://www.dsogaming.com/news/final-fantasy-type-o-coming-to-pc-will-be-demonstrated-on-msis-laptops-at-computex/)
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Post by: Positive Touch on June 01, 2015, 09:14:16 AM
yessssss

at this rate I'll never own a ps4
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Post by: studyguy on June 01, 2015, 03:16:20 PM
I haven't played XIV seriously in over a month.
Looks like that'll be ending soon.
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on June 01, 2015, 06:31:53 PM
I wanted to get my linkshell group together to beat T9 and maybe even final coil, but one person in the group is basically keeping the whole thing from coming together.

Guess I'm pugging that shit on my own. I've got an 130 Tank and almost i130 Ninja, I'm sure I'll manage.
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Post by: Himu on June 01, 2015, 06:40:12 PM
:rejoice

fuck ps4
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Post by: SpeedStats on June 02, 2015, 02:08:58 AM
I finished Final Fantasy 6.  I ended up coming out liking the WoR more than the WoB this time, and even then, I don't like FF6 too much.  Oh, and if you don't recruit Terra, she still comes back in the ending no matter what.  It's one of the FFs I've played the least so I didn't know that.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
(http://i.imgur.com/8TtUuMs.png) (http://i.imgur.com/mnWx2c0.png) (http://i.imgur.com/S8xFS1i.png)
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I started replaying Crisis Core.  Despite the Genesis shit, it's pretty consistent and Zack is a very consistent and likeable character.  Halfway through the game now.  I like it!

The FF5 Job Fiesta starring Best Final Fantasy is soon, so I've got a save prepared to start that on June 22nd.  I love doing it every year that I've tried it out, and I think I'm gonna do additional runs again, just to see what the new Chaos run is like if other people say it's cool.

Speaking of FF5:

spoiler (click to show/hide)
(http://i.imgur.com/f49Nccy.png)
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Gilgamesh (and BUTTZ) was an event character in Japan until yesterday!  He is a tank.  He's the second-best tank behind Paladin Cecil but he's still a cool character.  He is one of the greatest!

:bow Playing video games  :bow2

I wanted to get my linkshell group together to beat T9 and maybe even final coil, but one person in the group is basically keeping the whole thing from coming together.

Guess I'm pugging that shit on my own. I've got an 130 Tank and almost i130 Ninja, I'm sure I'll manage.

gosh i wonder who you're going to drag into this hmmmmmmmmmmm

I will return to FF14 soon, b.  Don't worry.
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Post by: Himu on June 02, 2015, 02:16:49 AM
told you WoR owns Speed, but yeah FF6 is pretty blah. WoB sucks.
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Post by: SpeedStats on June 02, 2015, 02:25:07 AM
Golden saucer is already in there.  :yeshrug

Oh, I just remembered that I beat FF4 as part of the series playthrough thing. It was... FF4. Good music, really boring on a repeat playthrough, really easy overall. Played the Advance version with the super annoying font and weird overworld sprites. They messed up Zeromus' script and all he does is back to back Big Bang > Black Hole with nothing in between. zzzzz game.

Yeah, when you were telling me about it while you were doing it, I was like, huh?  GBA version, I've played the least of now, so I'm more familiar with PS1/SNES/WSC/DS/PSP scripts, and that AI script was kinda weird to me.  If I ever play FF4 GBA again, I'll check that script out because I'm curious if I'm wrong or something.

Zeromus is like... four phases in the non ds versions, and in the SNES/PS1 versions, you can hit him with that Second Form/Sap bug that I like to abuse with a lot of bosses in that game.  Too bad you can't do it in the GBA version otherwise I would've recommended it.

It's like
phase 1 - wait/shake, wait/shake, big bang -> phase 2
phase 2 (main script) - wait/shake, wait/shake, big bang, black hole, wait/shake, wait/shake, big bang, bio, black hole, wait/shake, wait/shake, big bang, black hole (and can counter w/bio or flare depending on what spell you use)
Phase 3 (restore (if you don't knock his HP down to 12k faster than he can take a turn and heal to max -- then he'll remain in phase 2's AI script)) - wait/shake, wait/shake, big bang, black hole, flare, wait/shake, wait/shake, wait/shake, big bang
Phase 4 (under 12k + phase 3 initiated) - rand, meteor, meteor, meteor, meteor, meteor, meteor, meteor, met-- you get the point.
 
So I was wondering where all the other spells were at cuz the way you were going on about it, you didn't sound like you left him in phase 2 by accident.  At least you beat it, tho.


told you WoR owns Speed, but yeah FF6 is pretty blah. WoB sucks.

It's just like what Oscar said: the pacing is awful.  When you finally get to WoR, and can do what you want and choose who you want to get/which order you want to do it in since the game's balanced enough for that, it feels much better since it's kinda like FF3/FF5 where much of what happens after you get the boat/airship is semi-dictated by you.  I'm a bit surprised I like WoR more coming out of that.  I used to not like it very much.
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on June 02, 2015, 02:30:19 AM
Judging by your description, the GBA version script only does a single wait/shake in between Big Bang and Dark Hole. Which wouldn't be a problem on its own, but he also did both of those actions in the amount of time it took Rosa to take a single turn. Meaning, all Rosa could do was use Curaja on the party before Zeromus would big bang everyone again. Wasn't an issue once I gained like 6 more levels, but still annoying cause I couldn't even recast buffs in between.
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Post by: Himu on June 02, 2015, 02:55:05 AM
It's just like what Oscar said: the pacing is awful.  When you finally get to WoR, and can do what you want and choose who you want to get/which order you want to do it in since the game's balanced enough for that, it feels much better since it's kinda like FF3/FF5 where much of what happens after you get the boat/airship is semi-dictated by you.  I'm a bit surprised I like WoR more coming out of that.  I used to not like it very much.

The pacing for Sabin's chapter in the pick yer own adventure is horrendous. Truly horrible stuff of nightmares. FFVI is a game with a lot of good ideas in it, but reading on how it was only developed within a year shows just how rushed and limited of a product it was, and by the time you're in WoR the game is practically just about over.

I used to consider FF6 a top three FF after 8 and 12. After my replay last year, I put it below even 7. While 7 is also a tourist game like 6, it also has more freedom, much earlier on - grabbing all of Aerith's limits and ultimate weapon, Yuffie side quest, Wutai, recruiting Vincent, defeating Midgar Zolom early for Trine, The Golden Saucer;etc). 7 is the better game in spades despite 6's flirtations with greatness - mostly WoR, and ambitious storytelling such as Shadow's dreams, opera house, and the ending.

I still love it, but as an almost 30 year old? Yeesh.  :-X :-X :-X

FF RANK FEST.

12 = 8 > 5 > 10 International > 9 > 7 > 4 > 6 > 10 > 1 > 3 > 2 > 13
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Post by: demi on June 02, 2015, 09:04:18 AM
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Post by: Joe Molotov on June 02, 2015, 04:37:45 PM
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Post by: demi on June 02, 2015, 04:44:13 PM
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Post by: Positive Touch on June 02, 2015, 05:19:45 PM
hey all you ff6 haters I hope you are forced to eat a bag of warm poo at some point in your lives
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Post by: demi on June 02, 2015, 06:11:42 PM
At least the second half would be easier to digest
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Post by: Kara on June 02, 2015, 06:12:43 PM
Celes x Locke :uguu
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on June 02, 2015, 06:42:11 PM
Rankings suck.

My favorites are 1, 5, 7 and 14. Like all the others to varying degrees.

I stepped into Second Coil Turn 9 for the first time today. Pretty lax duties as a tank, barring the golem placements that everyone has to know. Seeing my HP fluctuate from topped off to "oh god heal me heal me" is gonna drive me nuts though.
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Post by: studyguy on June 02, 2015, 06:56:38 PM
I don't put enough stock into this series to care enough to rank 14 titles.

I played more of 11 than the rest of my time in 14 or any of the others combined.
As far as I'm concerned, 11 carried that Square on its back after Spirits Within flopped.
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Post by: Supermanisdead on June 04, 2015, 02:27:12 PM
Stella is gone, the dream is dead. Tabata = hack confirmed.

#Bore mods <3
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on June 04, 2015, 09:48:32 PM
Beating Turn 9 in Second Coil is... taking longer than I thought it would.

I'll see past Heavensfall someday. I know Phase 1 and 2 like the back of my hand already, but have only ever seen the Ghost of blah blah once and immediately wiped cause the blue golem's paralysis had gone off. Gets annoying to have to teach every new party I try how to deal with meteor placement.
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Post by: studyguy on June 05, 2015, 12:03:22 AM
Meteors are only annoying if no one knows what the fuck to do.
I can imagine that being a pain in the ass going in with fresh people each time.
Personally I do it now in my sleep up to the final phase, but I recall a time when it was a fucking struggle to even make out out of golems.

Fucking green golem was a dick and no one ever stopped that fucking blue one from doing its paralysis.
Fucking bards.
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Post by: Lucretius on June 05, 2015, 02:10:31 AM
Too bad we're not on the same server.  I'd help you out.

(http://i.imgur.com/Rfj91zs.jpg)
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Post by: Lucretius on June 06, 2015, 03:33:18 PM
I love this game so much.  I'm ready for Heavensward.

(http://i.imgur.com/tqzPSbY.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Xrxw09z.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ittrlki.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/3QB67fa.jpg)
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Post by: demi on June 10, 2015, 08:24:35 AM
Square pushed an update for console Type-0 that deals with the same "fixes" that PC would be getting. Camera, motion blur...
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Post by: studyguy on June 10, 2015, 11:22:37 AM
My entire raid group is going to be gone the first week of prelaunch.
I won't even be back from vacation till the 29th
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on June 10, 2015, 11:30:46 AM
Alexander isn't gonna be available until two weeks from launch anyway.
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on June 23, 2015, 02:27:41 AM
Beat the Heavensward Main Scenario Quest. Everything about this expansion is fantastic.

Paladin got a bunch of utility actions that greatly improve his party support as well as a straight up DPS weaponskill. I love it.
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Post by: Lucretius on June 23, 2015, 02:36:33 AM
I was gone two days this weekend so I'm behind on Heavensward.  My Free Company (guild) was racing to kill the extreme primals and got world 3rd kill on Bismarck Extreme and world 5th kill on Ravana Extreme!

I'm still grinding to level 57.  The story is fucking classic FF and is shaping up to be one of my favorite FF stories ever.  It's very FFIV in tone (even has some FFIV preorder bonus trinkets).  The story is to me what Final Fantasy was when I was growing up (i.e. FF 1 and 4).

I'm digging paladin's new abilities so far.  I think it'll remain the go-to main tank job for the foreseeable future.
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Post by: Lucretius on July 08, 2015, 01:05:05 PM
FFXIV Heavensward has my favorite story of any FF ever!

The new raid came out yesterday.  It's Alexander.  You have to fight him from the inside out. 

https://youtu.be/3cKy5Qk0QMM

Alexander has a full-on steampunk visual theme.  That raid music is unlike anything I've ever heard in a FF game (most of us quite like it).  You even get to ride some steam-powered tachikoma-like personal tanks inside the raid and can acquire one as a mount outside the raid.

(http://i.imgur.com/iIIpo4V.jpg)

The Alexander raid is "Normal Mode" which is easier than the Extreme Primals.  My team beat all four floors last night.  "Savage Mode" is coming out in two weeks.
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Post by: studyguy on July 08, 2015, 01:24:42 PM
Yeah that shit's breddy gud
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Post by: Great Rumbler on July 30, 2015, 01:05:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8SM2CSLsro
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Post by: Trent Dole on July 30, 2015, 01:30:40 PM
Transform into your faves, like LIGHTNING (NO), Squall (also NO), and Cloud (OK he's alright I guess maybe).
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Post by: Positive Touch on July 30, 2015, 06:36:14 PM
so the wiki says this plays like monster Hunter? I'll play that
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Post by: Himu on July 30, 2015, 06:39:49 PM
Yeah this is obviously their new MH clone. I need to get 4.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on July 30, 2015, 07:27:03 PM
MonFan
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on August 01, 2015, 09:48:56 PM
FF12 remake/remaster announced at Distant Worlds. About fuckin' time.

Give it to meeeee.  :mouf
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Post by: Himu on August 01, 2015, 10:14:10 PM
FUCKING FINALLY ongggggg
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Post by: Great Rumbler on August 01, 2015, 10:19:43 PM
Steam version please.
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Post by: El Babua on August 01, 2015, 11:19:12 PM
:preach :rejoice :preach
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Post by: Positive Touch on August 01, 2015, 11:43:12 PM
WOOO HELL YEAH HUNTS HERE I COME
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Post by: thisismyusername on August 02, 2015, 12:37:13 AM
FF12 remake/remaster announced at Distant Worlds. About fuckin' time.

Give it to meeeee.  :mouf

You get a dap.

FUCKING FINALLY ongggggg

And you get a dap.

Steam version please.

I agree with you dap.

:preach :rejoice :preach

:rejoice dap

WOOO HELL YEAH HUNTS HERE I COME

Man after my own heart dap.

Square, to you I say:  :gaben :bolo


That said: :gladbron :tauntaun :tauntaun :tauntaun 
:preach :preach :preach :preach :preach :preach :preach :preach :preach :preach :preach :preach :preach :preach :preach :preach :preach :preach :preach :preach :preach :preach :preach :preach :preach :preach

At Zeph, Glen, and other haters: :umad :preach
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Post by: Positive Touch on August 02, 2015, 01:40:15 AM
guys do you think they will include a tribute to Cecil the lion in the clan hall in light of recent events
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Post by: eleuin on August 02, 2015, 02:29:51 AM
fucking finally  :rejoice
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Post by: Himu on August 02, 2015, 03:02:11 AM
WHEN IS GAMESCOM
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Post by: thisismyusername on August 02, 2015, 09:50:54 AM
WHEN IS GAMESCOM

Next/this week. I think... Thursday?

Yeah. 6th to 9th for the public. So maybe Wednesday to Sunday for press.
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Post by: recursivelyenumerable on August 03, 2015, 12:17:40 AM
I always felt the "performance"/sound production of FF12 soundtrack didn't really do the composition justice, so a newly recorded/produced version would be interesting.
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Post by: studyguy on August 06, 2015, 11:09:29 AM
FFXV stans on life support.
 :drudge
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Post by: Himu on August 06, 2015, 11:17:25 AM
the entire ff15 situation is embarrassing for our fanbase and our fanbase was already embarrassing enough!
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Post by: Positive Touch on August 06, 2015, 12:30:46 PM
what happened? last I heard was that they confirmed it was gonna be 2016
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Post by: Himu on August 06, 2015, 12:37:26 PM
what happened? last I heard was that they confirmed it was gonna be 2016

tabata changed things from the original versus, we don't know what the full plan is yet, but fan reaction is:


Quote from: Illucio;174343341
I'm really getting tired of Tabata's reasoning for all these changes....

Basically there are 0 reasons for him to be taking out characters or let alone making clones of the same character with a different name to replace the old one. He is self inserting himself so hard in this game that it should be considered borderline rape. If the new trailer isn't proof enough of his self-inserting, anything to do with Luna/Stella is.


I miss Nomura's vision of this game... That's the game I wanted. ._.

If you look at the recent FF15 info thread on gaf, all of the bulletpoints point to being butthurt over no reason.
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Post by: Himu on August 06, 2015, 12:40:09 PM
New trailer

https://youtu.be/BcGLfeni0og
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Post by: studyguy on August 06, 2015, 03:08:54 PM
YOU MEAN A GAME I KNEW NOTHING ABOUT ISN'T GOING TO BE ABOUT THE THING I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT?!
 :busta :busta :busta :busta

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE.

Stans beating off for years over the crumbs of info SE threw at them are the worst.

Bu bu but we knew from the trailers and concep-
FOH you didn't know shit, now you're looking like fools crying over fanart of a character they barely knew shit about.
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Post by: Positive Touch on August 06, 2015, 03:19:03 PM
so this means that fans that'll end up disappointed with ff15 will forever be going "just think of what the game coulda been like!" despite the fact that the old team could never get their shit together enough to deliver a finished product?

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Post by: Positive Touch on August 06, 2015, 03:23:26 PM
also tabata makes good games and fans should be happy he's working on this
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Post by: Himu on August 06, 2015, 03:27:20 PM
He makes good games? Which?
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on August 06, 2015, 03:32:28 PM
Type-0 and Crisis Core are great games.

The game part of The 3rd Birthday was good. Everything around it... not so much.
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Post by: studyguy on August 06, 2015, 03:35:15 PM
Least the dude finishes games.
More than I can say for Nomura's pipedreams.
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Post by: Himu on August 06, 2015, 03:40:53 PM
Crisis Core kinda wasn't that good. :yeshrug was mediocre at best, haven't played type, but hear similar things
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on August 06, 2015, 03:45:53 PM
I like em both, so eh.  :yeshrug

I just want XV to be out already so they can move on from that mess and work on something new, completely unrelated to the FNC baggage they keep lugging around.  That hole mess needs to be buried six feet under and never brought up again.
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Post by: Himu on August 06, 2015, 03:53:14 PM
You know, when SE said it was a ten year project...they weren't wrong :dead
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Post by: Positive Touch on August 06, 2015, 05:32:54 PM
crisis core was a great game gtfo

fun combat system, entertaining story aside from genesis, amazing graphics and soundtrack. it also did a fantastic job of keeping the same balance of somber and goofy that the original had, with lots of silly minigames and whatnot. my favorite ff pre/sequel after 10-2.
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Post by: Trent Dole on August 06, 2015, 05:52:06 PM
so this means that fans that'll end up disappointed with ff15 will forever be going "just think of what the game coulda been like!" despite the fact that the old team could never get their shit together enough to deliver a finished product?
Yeah man, imagine if XII had actually been finished, or Wind Waker for that matter. Eh.
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Post by: tiesto on August 06, 2015, 06:06:36 PM
Crisis Core was OK, though the random level up system was pretty weird, the sidequests were so repetitive it made Mass Effect 1's look unique, and the less said about Genesis the better.

I really did like Type-0 though (aside from locking story scenes behind a replay, which I still have to do :piss2), but I made concessions due to the fact it was originally a PSP game.
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Post by: Himu on August 06, 2015, 06:12:48 PM
crisis core was a great game gtfo

fun combat system, entertaining story aside from genesis, amazing graphics and soundtrack. it also did a fantastic job of keeping the same balance of somber and goofy that the original had, with lots of silly minigames and whatnot. my favorite ff pre/sequel after 10-2.

stupid roulette system, lots of random variables, mediocre and repetitive side quests/missions, genesis sucked, battle system that got old. It's pretty mediocre beyond certain areas of the game (mostly Nibelheim, and anything Cloud/Sephiroth/Zack related in terms of characterization) and a fantastic ending. Game is highly over hyped and the best thing about it is that, Genesis aside, it carries the spirit of FF7 the best out of all of the Compilation thingies and is a wonderful example of fanservice and solid prequel storytelling.  As a game though, it's highly lacking in many core (lol) areas.
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Post by: Positive Touch on August 06, 2015, 09:04:00 PM
hey you know what might change yalls opinion if you sucked my fucking balls maybe
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Post by: Himu on August 06, 2015, 09:09:46 PM
:lol
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Post by: mormapope on August 07, 2015, 06:05:34 AM
Nearing the end of FFXIII, about to finish chapter 12, do all the hunts I haven't done, and then beat the last boss in chapter 13.

Going back to the game when you're on Chapter 11 almost washes the first 20 hours out of your mouth. I've had a blast for the past 30 hours playing the game, doing a lot of hunting missions, acquiring/upgrading the best weapons for the three characters I use the most (Hope, Vanille, Lightning), upgrading and dismantling items to get haste boots and shit that charges the ATB gauge.

It's almost unbelievable that such a great game is hidden behind 20 hours of thumb twiddling and terrible storytelling fuckery. That's been the consensus for a long time now, but I'm surprised how fun FFXIII is, and could've been.
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Post by: BrokenVerses on August 07, 2015, 08:35:08 PM
Nearing the end of FFXIII, about to finish chapter 12, do all the hunts I haven't done, and then beat the last boss in chapter 13.

Going back to the game when you're on Chapter 11 almost washes the first 20 hours out of your mouth. I've had a blast for the past 30 hours playing the game, doing a lot of hunting missions, acquiring/upgrading the best weapons for the three characters I use the most (Hope, Vanille, Lightning), upgrading and dismantling items to get haste boots and shit that charges the ATB gauge.

It's almost unbelievable that such a great game is hidden behind 20 hours of thumb twiddling and terrible storytelling fuckery. That's been the consensus for a long time now, but I'm surprised how fun FFXIII is, and could've been.

I recently completed FFXIII and things did pick up a lot after Chapter 11.  I would have taken a much shorter game over one that has a horrible bloated first half with glacial pacing and slogging through endless trash mobs. I enjoyed the missions and pulverizing the last series of bosses as well.



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Post by: bluemax on August 09, 2015, 04:08:39 AM
Type-0 and Crisis Core are great games.

The game part of The 3rd Birthday was good. Everything around it... not so much.

Great games if you're a Japanese salaryman who rides the subway every day and plays games only on his PSP.

I don't know if anyone else would consider them great games.
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Post by: Positive Touch on August 09, 2015, 08:25:10 AM
I love final fantasy and when I grow up I'm going to marry it
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Post by: thisismyusername on August 09, 2015, 10:46:55 AM
The game part of The 3rd Birthday was good. Everything around it... not so much.

Nah, breh. Nah.

All Third Birthday had to do was revamp the PE2 ARPG system to be less Resident Evil-y and it would've been perfect for the PSP platform. But nooooooooo. We get terrible shootan and story. :-X :yuck
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Post by: Positive Touch on August 09, 2015, 11:43:26 AM
yeah the gameplay sucked too. neat ideas but shit execution. like the types of enemies and they're all hp sponges. heinously bad bosses. repetitive level design. that clumsy burst system. just bad bad bad.
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Post by: Positive Touch on September 05, 2015, 02:53:32 PM
they finally fixed the rng bug in ffx hd for ps4
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Post by: Positive Touch on October 31, 2015, 09:32:58 PM
sunblade what ff14 server do you and speedstats play on? I'm on Hyperion
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on October 31, 2015, 11:24:47 PM
sunblade what ff14 server do you and speedstats play on? I'm on Hyperion

That's the one we play on.  :shh
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Post by: Positive Touch on October 31, 2015, 11:56:35 PM
zomg are you guys in a free uh guild or club or whatever it's called? would you mind if a silent inexperienced loner joined up??
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on November 01, 2015, 12:10:04 AM
My FC is a small one for mostly close-knit friends, but we can always make a linkshell with you in it. Think of Free Companies as Guilds and linkshells as private social channels. We'll show ya the ropes.  :obama
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Post by: Positive Touch on November 01, 2015, 01:33:44 AM
omg thank you :3
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on November 01, 2015, 01:08:33 AM
What's your character name? I'll be on most of tomorrow, so I can shoot you a message if you're up and about.
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Post by: SpeedStats on November 01, 2015, 04:34:37 AM
Yeah, the things I can teach are probably Rogue/Ninja, summoner, and healing with Scholar... and maybe Dragoon.  Sunblade knows way more than I do about everything else, especially tanking because I don't really tank outside of using Dark Knight during FATEs.  He can probably talk more about crafting and gathering since he has all of his gatherers at 60 somehow while I'm stuck in level 20 gatherer and level 30 crafter mediocrity. :(

But yeah, anything about Scholar/Ninja, I know pretty well.  My understanding of Bard is pretty shaky even though I'm learning more about it while levelling it up recently, but my understanding of Black Mage is semi-passable.  Pugilist/Monk is hilariously the one I'm weakest with even though it's the role I started the game with before swapping to rogue/ninja.  Otherwise, I know most of the DPS roles and what they do.

Sunblade taught me how to Ninja, but I'm better than him at it now.  I can beat him at that, at least.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Because he disconnected multiple times during our FF14 wedding, and I got mad and threw knives at him.

(http://i.imgur.com/FTQbTFl.png)
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Post by: Rufus on November 01, 2015, 04:48:11 AM
That's so cute. :heart
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Post by: Positive Touch on November 01, 2015, 10:38:20 AM
I'm ydaine aribalti in-game.

and lol I haven't unlocked any of the real classes yet. I'm a level 20 thaumaturge who spends most of my time fishing, making foods, and wandering around while trying to make a mental map of all the different locations. this game feels gigantic.
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Post by: Positive Touch on November 01, 2015, 11:06:37 AM
I mean it's still an mmo and 90% of what I've done for the last three weeks is fetchquesting, but it still ends up being entertaining and it's final fantasy so hey

also me and jin play Diablo 3 not final fantasy
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Post by: Joe Molotov on November 01, 2015, 11:17:14 AM
Final Cuck Fantasy
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Post by: Positive Touch on November 01, 2015, 12:04:31 PM
this thread got real dark
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Post by: recursivelyenumerable on November 01, 2015, 09:03:35 PM
MMOs really need to figure out how to dispense with the fragmented shard worlds thing ... like imagine if you had to go around asking your friends "which facebook server are you on" and have to choose between which group of friends/stalking targets you liked better.
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Post by: bluemax on November 01, 2015, 11:42:26 PM
According to my Steam account I put in 52 hours during my free month of FFXIV, but at least a day or more of that was downloading patches. I signed up on the same server as my younger brother but I always felt bad having him do dungeons with me since most of his classes were so much higher. He wants me to play more but I haven't felt compelled to pay for any more time and its been like 2 weeks since my free month ended.

MMOs really need to figure out how to dispense with the fragmented shard worlds thing ... like imagine if you had to go around asking your friends "which facebook server are you on" and have to choose between which group of friends/stalking targets you liked better.

I was thinking about this awhile back, why no one has come up with a solution for this in 2015. Is the data load really that heavy? I don't know enough about databases to undestand why.
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on November 01, 2015, 11:47:16 PM
According to my Steam account I put in 52 hours during my free month of FFXIV, but at least a day or more of that was downloading patches. I signed up on the same server as my younger brother but I always felt bad having him do dungeons with me since most of his classes were so much higher. He wants me to play more but I haven't felt compelled to pay for any more time and its been like 2 weeks since my free month ended.

Could have asked us to help out as well. We were gonna do Sastasha with you the one time when your brother that you were at the level to do it but weren't at 15 yet.  :P
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Post by: Positive Touch on November 01, 2015, 11:50:14 PM
hey thanks for talking with me guys! sorry I went afk for awhile unannounced; I wasn't trying to be rude.

p.s. I love this game
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Post by: bluemax on November 01, 2015, 11:59:53 PM
According to my Steam account I put in 52 hours during my free month of FFXIV, but at least a day or more of that was downloading patches. I signed up on the same server as my younger brother but I always felt bad having him do dungeons with me since most of his classes were so much higher. He wants me to play more but I haven't felt compelled to pay for any more time and its been like 2 weeks since my free month ended.

Could have asked us to help out as well. We were gonna do Sastasha with you the one time when your brother that you were at the level to do it but weren't at 15 yet.  :P

I never had problems finding parties in all honesty. The game was fun though! I kept trying to level too much stuff at once.
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Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on November 02, 2015, 03:29:00 PM
I'm nearly to the end of the base game content in FFXIV (Level 46, like 9 more Main Scenario Quests to go)

I've made it here in 2 months of casual play with a toddler; if you game like a boss I'm sure you can hit base cap (Level 50) in a month.

Definitely the best Final Fantasy game since the PlayStation 1 era. Full of fanservice that's not annoying, a decent (if not great) story, and it's just FUN.

You can play it as a solo game, more or less; Dungeon and Duty finder makes it easy-peasy to join up with others for dungeons when necessary.

In conclusion FUCK FINAL FANTASY XV
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on November 02, 2015, 03:52:49 PM
One of the things that makes XIV the most for me is the music. Masayoshi Soken is hands down the best music composer SE has under their wing, and letting him do the music in not just a main FF title, but a game that requires as much variety in music as an MMO does has allowed him to flex his muscle and compose some of the best music in the series, whether its original tracks like Hard to Miss (https://youtu.be/h9yKegOT02g), Ultima Weapon (https://youtu.be/EZZDnlAg3Pk) and silly stuff like Seasons (https://youtu.be/v7c9tJ5AYN4) to arrangements from earlier games like Battle on the Big Bridge (https://youtu.be/yNHq8Ic8a6w), Labyrinth of the Ancients (https://youtu.be/MwvoUQXBW7M) and Cloud of Darkness' theme (https://youtu.be/_U1fY9LXnMk?list=PLAWCRwyR9Lqb-xAdkyZgdgi9AylDVlRuA). It just all does a really really good job of making you feel like you're playing a whimsical FF title from back in the day rather than the heavy-handed shit we deal with these days.
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Post by: bluemax on November 02, 2015, 05:14:10 PM
There were a couple of areas with music that sounded like it was out of Xenoblade. Not that that's a bad thing as the music was about all I liked from Xenoblade.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on November 02, 2015, 05:17:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCcbKY7d0dc
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Post by: bluemax on November 02, 2015, 05:18:12 PM
I'm re-subbing just to play this fight:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se-ueWupuDI
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Post by: Lucretius on November 02, 2015, 09:14:24 PM
I'm nearly to the end of the base game content in FFXIV (Level 46, like 9 more Main Scenario Quests to go)

I've made it here in 2 months of casual play with a toddler; if you game like a boss I'm sure you can hit base cap (Level 50) in a month.

Definitely the best Final Fantasy game since the PlayStation 1 era. Full of fanservice that's not annoying, a decent (if not great) story, and it's just FUN.

You can play it as a solo game, more or less; Dungeon and Duty finder makes it easy-peasy to join up with others for dungeons when necessary.

In conclusion FUCK FINAL FANTASY XV

This is definitely one of the finest FF games ever.  The main story in 2.0 (A Realm Reborn) was just ok.  Part of what held it back was it's reliance on 1.0 characters which the majority of the player base wasn't familiar with.  Frankly the best story in 2.0 was the Binding Coil of Bahamut story.  An ancient advance race had locked Bahamut inside an artificial moon that was intentionally crashed into the planet.  Bahamut was mysteriously defeated but now began regenerating himself and had to be stopped.  THAT was a fucking cool story.  But that was locked behind the hardcore cycle of raids.  I think by the time 3.0 came out, only about 10% of the player base had finished the final raid to see the story.  The coolest cutscene in the game (and indeed one of the coolest in all Final Fantasy ever) was locked behind the 12th raid in a 13 raid cycle.

However, the 3.0 (Heavensward) main story is largely self-contained and is probably my favorite Final Fantasy stories ever.  The new raid-specific story content can be experienced in an easy mode raid setting now.

FFXIV can easily be solo'd if you just want to experience the story mode.  The duty finder will automatically find three other players for you to clear any multiplayer dungeons you need to advance in the story.
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Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on November 03, 2015, 12:20:05 AM
I yeah I've definitely heard the patch story is a lot better and the expansion story is great. Excited to get there... eventually!
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Post by: Take My Breh Away on December 31, 2015, 10:10:31 AM
http://www.jp.square-enix.com/ff9/en/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oDeSJI0qJc

IX finally comes to PC and Mobile

:rejoice
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Post by: archnemesis on December 31, 2015, 10:16:00 AM
I might rebuy it if I can speed it up. Otherwise I'd rather use an emulator.
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Post by: archie4208 on December 31, 2015, 10:20:57 AM
I played 9 about 2 years ago.  I loved its world design and characters.  I fucking hated how sl.........ow........its.........battl......es......ar.........e
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Post by: Positive Touch on December 31, 2015, 10:58:54 AM
it does have a speed up option just like the recent ff7 rerelease
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Post by: nachobro on December 31, 2015, 11:03:49 AM
Awesome! Better graphics and a speedup is all I need to make this game perfect.
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Post by: demi on December 31, 2015, 11:29:22 AM
Yup, that's FF9
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Post by: Positive Touch on December 31, 2015, 12:24:12 PM
the best part is that now they've updated every other Final Fantasy so now all they have left to rerelease is 12. hd release imminent motherfuckers
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Post by: Rufus on December 31, 2015, 12:25:18 PM
the best part is that now they've updated every other Final Fantasy so now all they have left to rerelease is 12. hd release imminent motherfuckers
Would be nice, but that's also the one that looks stellar on PCSX2 already.
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Post by: Mods Help on December 31, 2015, 01:05:59 PM
NO LIES.

FF9 WITH INCREASED BATTLE SPEED COULD TOP 4 FF.
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Post by: Lucretius on December 31, 2015, 01:21:07 PM
The uncompressed CG cutscenes look great. I wish they'd rescan the original art for the 2D pre-rendered environments, but from that trailer they're still using the low res versions. IX has long been towards the top among FF games for me.  It's safe to assume they'll provide a speed-up option and maybe an option to turn off random encounters. If so this version may confirm its spot as my favorite FF.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on December 31, 2015, 02:05:19 PM
The uncompressed CG cutscenes look great. I wish they'd rescan the original art for the 2D pre-rendered environments, but from that trailer they're still using the low res versions. IX has long been towards the top among FF games for me.  It's safe to assume they'll provide a speed-up option and maybe an option to turn off random encounters. If so this version may confirm its spot as my favorite FF.

Pretty sure most of the original background art no longer exists. I think there was a blog post about that a year or so ago.
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 31, 2015, 03:05:20 PM
So I'm back into FFXIV. Starting a new character. I basically have a question, what's end game now like? Do you still have to get the special class armor where you payed with those "tokens" from the end game dungeons and your +1 weapon? Or can you skip that stuff and go into the expansion.
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Post by: Positive Touch on December 31, 2015, 04:12:14 PM
lol endgame is still the same with collecting those tokens. a lot of the level 50 multilayer stuff is hard to get in to bc a lot of players moved on to the expansion. you can't actually start the expansion tho until you finish the main quest AND the story of all five of the updates they released. it's annoying.
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Post by: Positive Touch on December 31, 2015, 04:14:12 PM
the best part is that now they've updated every other Final Fantasy so now all they have left to rerelease is 12. hd release imminent motherfuckers
Would be nice, but that's also the one that looks stellar on PCSX2 already.

but i can't run pcx :/

also I'm sure they'd update it like ten and redo a bunch of the old assets so it'd look a lot better than just a res bump
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 31, 2015, 04:43:43 PM
lol endgame is still the same with collecting those tokens. a lot of the level 50 multilayer stuff is hard to get in to bc a lot of players moved on to the expansion. you can't actually start the expansion tho until you finish the main quest AND the story of all five of the updates they released. it's annoying.
ok yeah I saw you mention that, but can I ignore the previous level 50 equipment and just go into that stuff with normal gear?
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Post by: Positive Touch on December 31, 2015, 06:50:58 PM
well you'll need SOME kind of gear that'll meet the item level requirements for missions, but no it won't have to be your job quest gear or the gear bought with special currency. hell, with how much money you have at the end of the game you might just be able to buy good enough gear from the market board.
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Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on January 04, 2016, 06:45:16 AM
The main scenario  job quests in FF14 will straight up give you the gear to use at level 50 now. No need to go out of your way to get stuff.
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Post by: Rufus on January 04, 2016, 06:04:27 PM
Guess what!

Final Fantasy VII Remake Producer Says 2016 Will Still Be A Year Of Preparations
http://www.siliconera.com/2016/01/04/final-fantasy-vii-remake-producer-says-2016-will-still-be-a-year-of-preparations
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Post by: Lucretius on January 04, 2016, 10:32:38 PM
Guess what!

Final Fantasy VII Remake Producer Says 2016 Will Still Be A Year Of Preparations
http://www.siliconera.com/2016/01/04/final-fantasy-vii-remake-producer-says-2016-will-still-be-a-year-of-preparations

Yeah.  They announced Final Fantasy XV (when it was FFXIII Versus) back in 2006.  Maybe we'll get the FFVII remake on PlayStation 5.
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Post by: Rufus on January 06, 2016, 02:54:06 PM
FFIX's Steam page is up, and it looks - grainy. Sad.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/377840/
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Post by: Trent Dole on January 06, 2016, 07:23:11 PM
Probably a straight up port/dump of the psx code. Lazy lazy.
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Post by: Mods Help on January 06, 2016, 07:47:49 PM
I'd be so happy if I didn't have to use the fucking speed booster and the game comes with speed enhancements at release. There's no reason at all FFIX should have the load times and battle system speed it had in 2000.

I can't wait to replay it. FFIX was my favorite FF when it came out, and I have been unable to replay it to completion only once because the speeds are so fucking awful.

FFIX stands as the first game I tore open. I know it's an easy game, but I beat that game in a month with 100 hours clocked, and had 20 hours put in and was off disc 1 by the time Thanksgiving break was upon us. Thankfully Thanksgiving break was the week after it came out. I played the shit out of that game like no game I played before it. Good memories; even the awful strategy guide. I had never played a game with such ruthless abandon before FFIX.

Of course, the following year, I had 40 hours clocked in FFX before Christmas break was over.

I miss FF, but it's not the same anymore. I've accepted that. At least I have my memories.
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Post by: Positive Touch on January 06, 2016, 08:11:49 PM
once again i feel compelled to remind you that ff14
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Post by: Mods Help on January 06, 2016, 08:16:00 PM
Playing Fighting games competitively takes up my game time.

I'm going to buy P5, XV, and XIV. I will save them for the end of year. Hopefully P5 and XV have ez modes. Don't have time messing with droll AI these days.
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Post by: Positive Touch on July 25, 2016, 09:48:58 PM
Final Fantasy 15, the game:

(http://i.imgur.com/9lTnP8j.jpg)

final Fantasy Kingsglaive, the tie-in movie:

(http://i.imgur.com/XGsiR28.jpg)

square wat r u doing
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Post by: Rufus on July 26, 2016, 04:14:20 AM
Burning money, like in old times.
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Post by: mormapope on July 26, 2016, 01:39:27 PM
I'm playing Final Fantasy Tactics: War of the Lions right now. How long is it and is there a point in the game where grinding is a lot faster/more efficient?
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Post by: demi on July 26, 2016, 01:44:16 PM
Its a decent length game.

I'm not sure on grinding spots, but honestly the game is pretty simple enough to not concern yourself with advanced classes. Chemists are pretty fucking good, esp when they can use guns down the road. When you unlock more "story" characters (Orlandu the GAWD, Agrias the GAWD, etc.) you can drop your randos for them.

The only real roadblock is Velius, he will either be the easiest fight ever or he will make you drop the game right there.
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Post by: Positive Touch on July 26, 2016, 01:47:32 PM
it's like 30 - 40 hours iirc. grinding isn't really necessary; just do some of those Tavern jobs and fight some random battles if necessary. later on you'll get a character that's so good he can help you win every battle with ease.

also most important thing is MAKE RAMZA LEARN AUTO POTION ASAP. you will need it in a certain battle that takes place in a sequence of fights where you can permanently get stuck. LEARN AUTO POTION
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Post by: Positive Touch on July 26, 2016, 01:54:17 PM
oh and please play the psp or ios version bc the translation for ps1 is liquid garbage
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Post by: demi on July 26, 2016, 02:26:22 PM
Auto Potion is pretty OP, definitely get that on your characters. When you start buying XPotions by the handful, all damage is pretty neglible.
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Post by: mormapope on July 26, 2016, 03:32:56 PM
oh and please play the psp or ios version bc the translation for ps1 is liquid garbage

I bought the PS1 version years ago and only played a few hours. Wasn't into SRPGs then, but now I've gained patience and enjoy the genre. The slow down in the PSP version is noticeable but it has been easy to get used to.

Auto Potion is pretty OP, definitely get that on your characters. When you start buying XPotions by the handful, all damage is pretty neglible.

I was working on having everyone getting counter (monk skill), gonna work on auto potion now though. 
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Post by: Positive Touch on July 26, 2016, 04:48:13 PM
auto potion is a great ability, but you only actually need it for Ramza for the one battle i mentioned. you don't have to have it for your other characters.
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Post by: demi on July 26, 2016, 04:52:27 PM
But you should, because we want to make the game as ridiculously easy as possible
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Post by: bluemax on July 27, 2016, 02:34:52 AM
Just play Yes Math%. Ez.
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Post by: I'm a Puppy! on July 27, 2016, 02:37:37 AM
FFT is a game that can be difficult if you don't really learn how to play it well. (I got stuck in that castle with that notorious boss and couldn't escape and had to restart the whole game) but once you figure out the game it becomes hella easy.
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Post by: chronovore on July 30, 2016, 06:56:45 PM
FFT is a game that can be difficult if you don't really learn how to play it well. (I got stuck in that castle with that notorious boss and couldn't escape and had to restart the whole game) but once you figure out the game it becomes hella easy.

I played PS1 version just after it came out; think I got stuck early on, after the first one-way boat journey. I wasn't powerful enough to deal with some swamp, and it was only two locations I could get random encounters in, to power up. I ended up losing steam, and then buying it one every subsequent version but never having played it. I should get back to the iOS version instead of wasting time with F2P garbage.
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Post by: Positive Touch on August 13, 2016, 06:45:55 PM
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/rumor-final-fantasy-15-delayed-to-end-of-november/1100-6442609/

bruh
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Post by: demi on August 13, 2016, 07:49:12 PM
Cool, now I can play Rise of Iron without worry
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Post by: Bebpo on August 14, 2016, 11:46:10 AM
Yep while it's a fairly big L for the game that's already been a joke of a mess for a decade, I'm ok with it moving from September 30th since in Japan P5 comes out on September 15th and there ain't no way I finish a goddamn Persona game in 2 weeks, so I would've been late to the FFXV party anyhow.
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 14, 2016, 08:12:26 PM
I've already waited this long and would rather the game be polished as possible.
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Post by: I'm a Puppy! on August 14, 2016, 10:46:58 PM
I was never going to buy FFXV day 1 anyway. Day 1 FF purchases died with FFXIII. I'll wait and hear consensus and wait for the inevitable price drop. It just means its a little further out. No biggie.
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Post by: El Babua on August 14, 2016, 11:29:29 PM
Lmao.
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Post by: Trent Dole on August 15, 2016, 02:37:05 AM
sound of a million slash fangirls screaming out etc
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Post by: VomKriege on August 15, 2016, 03:57:04 AM
Game could be a trainwreck...
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Post by: demi on August 15, 2016, 08:51:39 AM
Confirmed - FFXV releasing on Nov 30

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wepgwx_9kto&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wepgwx_9kto&feature=youtu.be)

Basically delayed because of poors who dont have internet so they're including the "day 1 patch" in the new master.
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Post by: demi on August 15, 2016, 08:57:30 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cp4jlt1WYAA8F0L.jpg:large)
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Post by: VomKriege on August 16, 2016, 11:10:55 AM
Square dropped 50mn of footage on Youtube. Too lazy to link it.
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Post by: Rufus on August 16, 2016, 11:33:37 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9HQbSTxvXI
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Post by: Positive Touch on August 16, 2016, 11:39:58 AM
zomg fishing minigame confirmed
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Post by: demi on August 16, 2016, 11:41:53 AM
Footage looks good. Cant wait to see what the achievements are
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Post by: Rufus on August 16, 2016, 11:44:30 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_16tWJIcyRA

Impressions from Videogamer
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Post by: Bebpo on August 23, 2016, 04:11:29 AM
I'm gonna double post this in the movie thread and here.  So I saw Kingsglaive FFXV tonight.  I don't know anything about FFXV.  Haven't played any demos, watched any trailers since like it was revealed as Versus and then the revealed as FFXV trailers and that's it.  These days I'm generally in media blackout on every videogame, just because I don't care and nothing worse than getting hyped up for a game that ends up sucking.  But anyhow, so knowing nothing about FFXV here's my thoughts:

While FFVII Advent Children was a bombastic stupid videogame movie that embraced itself and FF and was all about SUPER MELODRAMATIC slow moments and CRAZY ACTION at ultra-high speed with dramatic orchestra music pounding, Kingsglaive is a very mild low-key videogame cutscene movie.  It's a bit odd because the low-key more western cinematic style to it (aka, general lack of melodrama) would make it seem like it'd fit more as a movie, but it just doesn't feel like a movie at all.  It feels really close to like the Type-0 opening movie if it was 2 hours long and without the cool "We have arrived" music.  Just a bunch of action with no impact, bad editing, and the worst videogame sound effects I've ever heard.  Like they get in the car and it sounds like Gran Turismo 3 car sound effects.  It doesn't sound like a movie because the sound effects are like gameplay sound effects.  It's weird.  Also the music not being Shimomura but low-key background movie music really keeps it generic feeling.  At least if it had FF style music it'd have its own unique character to it.

The few little bits of character stuff are generally solid.  My favorite scene is the ONE melodramatic slow scene in the entire movie where Somnus is playing and the old Versus painting is in the background and it feels nice and character-y and it feels like the stuff I like FF and jrpgs for.  But then it quickly gets back into 90 mins of action action action that's for the most part terribly directed/edited with non-stop quick cuts and only the final fight really has decent fight choreography in a Cloud/Sephiroth way.

Story was alright.  Honestly, now that I know what FFXV is about, I'm sorta interested because I assume it's an old but workable story of an exiled prince taking back a kingdom.  But at the same time the quality of Kingsglaive makes me feel like the execution of the concept is gonna be pretty terrible like Type-0, which also had an interesting story but awful execution of it all.  If FFXV is anything like Kingsglaive the general feeling I'm getting is that it's FFXII x Type-0; lots of parts of Kingsglaive felt very Type-0.

Voice acting was a mixed bag.  Most of the non-big name actors were total shit anime dub.  The most elitist thing I'm ever gonna say about my Japanese is that I'm really glad I became fluent in Japanese before jrpgs started having voice acting because I have no idea how people put up with anime dub acting.  Aaron Paul is actually really good!  And Lena Headey's quality as well.  Sean Bean kinda sucks and his character doesn't emote visually which is weird, so that's disappointing, but on the antagonists the cowboy hat dude actually has a decent dub voice.  But then you have the 2ndary characters like white trash Barrett and no-name NPCs who really suck and take you out of the movie when they talk.

Visuals are weird too.  Like, you can tell these are video game cutscenes as they're decently above real-time PC/PS4 graphics, but nowhere near the quality of modern CG films.  You can see that most of the assets, especially in the environment are seriously in-game PS4 assets.  Some of the outdoor locations look really rough and some of the character animations are pretty bad too.  Even the lip-synch is off a lot, which gives it more of a dub anime feeling, but I'm under the impression the lip-synch was done to the English voice track.  Just feels budget.  And then the one seen that is seriously in-game PS4 graphics running on a giant theater screen wow, that looks terrible.

In the end it's not a bad movie, story is ok as a prologue, there's a couple cool scenes and most of the time it's passively enjoyable, but it's not good either and it's never really great like the highs of Advent Children.  Kingsglaive abandons its Japanese melodramatic epic FF roots and is the poorer for it.  It's the movie equivalent of those last gen Japanese games that tried so hard to westernize for a wider audience.  I don't know if this reflects on the game as well, but hopefully not.  Also, I never want to see a realistic Ultros again.
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 23, 2016, 02:36:39 PM
Well I really hated Advent Children for how over the top it was. I hated the battle scenes in AC because of how ridiculous and stupid they were, with no rules or logic to them. Just complete ridiculousness. Hated the characters because of how "emo" and unfun they generally were.

Kingsglaive was more low key and I like it for that reason. Yes, the combat was still over the top, but even then there was a clear logic and reason to how the glaive's used their powers and when they did'nt have that power they were'nt Dragonball characters. It's only the final battle that is really over the top and by then it's earned because one character has earned the "ultimate power".

I thought pretty much every character outside of the three mains and villians sounded terrible. Like, I just don't know how they thought that was ok.

I don't really share your opinions on the visuals. Outside of noticeable poor lip synch and bland looking non-important characters I thought the visuals were really good. I don't remember anything looking like PS4 visuals. Then again, I don't seem to understand peoples problem with the actual XV graphics at this point. At this point it just seems like everyone wants to hate anything regarding this game. Were they Pixar level? No, but I don't expect SE to make something like that. Clearly they were Blizzard level CG which is what I'd expect for one of these CGI video game movies. A little bit above the quality of these direct to dvd things.

The movie did have some really bad scene transition though. One part they fade to black every 5 seconds only to be at a scene that maybe happen a minute after the previous scene. That was really bad editing., no storyboarding.

As for the story. The world of FFXV strikes a good balance between feeling simple and not overly complicated and feeling uniquely interesting. Nothing here felt too complicated and anime stupid. Unlike AC I can actually make sense and relate to everyone motivations. Were some backgrounds a bit cliche? Sure and it's bad writing when characters just all of a sudden decide to tell you about their dead sister during a high speed escape, but whatever. Either the way the setting and conflict of FFXV is really cool, but without feeling like anime over the topness which makes zero sense and just asks you to go with it. Like there's no real sense of logic and thought behind it, which is something thats been bothering me about all these Light novels and anime and shit from Japan recently.

What I'm getting at between Kingsglaive and the recent showing of FFXV is that XV seems rather low key and avoiding some of the more over the top anime shit I've seen recently. Yes its still anime, but I don't know things feel more restrained then what I've seen in the previous 5 years. I mean XV opens up with your buddies pushing a broken down car and half the enjoyment comes from being on a road trip. Kingsglaive is about some soldiers who yes zero shift all around, but it's a job and they still go home to their fantasy Tokyo to eat and drink.

This sounds more interesting and digestible then a Goddess rescuing souls from the Apocalypse in 13 days and I'm very excited to see where XV takes this universe. Which I guess was the whole point of Kingsglaive anyway.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 26, 2016, 05:47:52 AM
So only the beginning of the game is confirmed open world, rest is more linear

FF13 reversus
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 26, 2016, 12:34:53 PM
So only the beginning of the game is confirmed open world, rest is more linear

FF13 reversus
I think people are kind of over blowing that statement.

Xenoblade and Final Fantasy XII are linear games. They are not at all linear like FFXIII. The always said the game was linear, now it's just a matter of knowing how? Because the 2nd half could easily still have open environments. I mean camping and stuff is how you level up, I doubt that changes. So I doubt the environments become smaller or something. Which is all I want in the end. If the game becomes linear, but still has open environments to explore I'll be happy. If becoming more linear means the story ramps up and there's less tedious activities to do and more specific set pieces and missions, then I'm all for it.
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Post by: bluemax on September 30, 2016, 12:35:32 AM
Today we should be playing FFXV.
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Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 30, 2016, 03:03:23 AM
Saw the trailer for World of Final Fantasy, it looks pretty nice, no clue if the game is any good of course
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Post by: Lucretius on September 30, 2016, 08:39:22 AM
FFXIV Patch 3.4 came out this week though and it's pretty darn great.
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Post by: Valkyrie on October 28, 2016, 08:46:06 AM
Any FFXIVers here? Would love to ask some questions/receive some advice! I'm kinda stuck after a long break, and feeling like I have no clue what to do.
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Post by: Positive Touch on October 28, 2016, 06:31:03 PM
yes i play the game and fucking love it what are your questions
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Post by: Valkyrie on October 30, 2016, 10:05:13 PM
yes i play the game and fucking love it what are your questions
My char is now a level 51 PLD, and I've been gone for a year or so, and completely forgot how to work this job.
Is this guide still viable?
http://www.ffxivinfo.com/guides/paladin.php

I'm due to do a party dungeon next, so I need to get my tank shit together and not fuck it up for the rest.
Need to do well with aggroing and enemity stuff, as well as outputting enough damage/proper skill rotation.
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Post by: Positive Touch on October 30, 2016, 10:18:00 PM
if you're not doing heavensward yet then old strategies still apply so the guide should work fine. don't worry about damage bc you're a tank. you might want to practice with some fates or something first.

the max i level for gear in 2.x is like 130. do activities that give you tomestones of poetics like daily roulettes, then go to mor dhona and talk to one of the women near the top of the hill to use the tomes to buy ironworks gear. that'll get you closer to i120 so you can do all the 2.x dungeons and bosses. might as well take your time because you'll need to do all the many many story quests before you can get to Ishgard and heavensward.
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Post by: Valkyrie on October 31, 2016, 01:04:53 AM
if you're not doing heavensward yet then old strategies still apply so the guide should work fine. don't worry about damage bc you're a tank. you might want to practice with some fates or something first.

the max i level for gear in 2.x is like 130. do activities that give you tomestones of poetics like daily roulettes, then go to mor dhona and talk to one of the women near the top of the hill to use the tomes to buy ironworks gear. that'll get you closer to i120 so you can do all the 2.x dungeons and bosses. might as well take your time because you'll need to do all the many many story quests before you can get to Ishgard and heavensward.
This is more helpful than what others have told me, so thank you very much!

I still have most of the 7th Astral Era Quests left before I can start the HS stuff. No stress on that, leveling in FFXIV is far less draining and annoying than a lot of MMORPGs I've played. The one thing I'm worried about is if I'll be missing out on something that will help me a lot. Such as crafting, for instance. Should I just not care until I'm lvl 60? Or is it something I could do while leveling and doing the 7th Astral Era stuff?
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Post by: Positive Touch on October 31, 2016, 01:20:45 AM
crafting isn't something you need to do at all, especially now that there are npcs that can affix materia. the main reasons people craft tend to be to raise money or to make personal items to wear or decorate your house with. you can start crafting any time; it's real easy. doesn't take as much time to level as you might think, especially if you grind levequests.  personally i think crafting is pretty fun and have more levels in those classes than combat ones.
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Post by: bork on November 10, 2016, 10:38:56 AM
Square confirmed that FFXV will be getting PS4 Pro support:

Quote
An update adding 4K and HDR support will be released alongside the game on November 29, but they want to release an update that has been optimized a bit more at a later date. They want to release another PlayStation 4 Pro update in December as well, which aims to implement support for 1080p at 60 frames per second on HDTVs. They’re currently at the tuning stage, but have it running roughly between 40 and 50 frames per second.
Read more at http://gematsu.com/2016/11/list-ps4-pro-enhanced-japanese-games#rqyd4W58oAaPRCTp.99

I would definitely wait until December to play it if I cared about this game and wanted a Pro.
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Post by: Rahxephon91 on November 10, 2016, 10:53:36 AM
Oh shit that sounds great. I wonder if Pros will be hard to get.
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Post by: Himu on November 10, 2016, 02:11:00 PM
ffxv is my most anticipated game of the year
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Post by: demi on November 11, 2016, 10:48:58 AM
Trailer from the new "Judgment" demo on JPSN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epMvOkd-jIs
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Post by: Positive Touch on January 01, 2017, 06:52:49 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/CiwAhMD.jpg)
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Post by: Valkyrie on January 01, 2017, 07:32:09 PM
Oh god, no, why. Whyyyy.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on January 01, 2017, 08:48:49 PM
*lights the mupepe signal*
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Post by: Freyj on January 02, 2017, 01:39:46 AM
I've seen enough porn to know where this is going.