Author Topic: What are you playing? (Read 4673848 times)

Himu · « **Reply #8520 on:** December 27, 2010, 09:01:04 PM »

How the fuck do I fight Jeanne on chapter 2? Beating her is easy but not going for perfection. If she gets you in a combo it's tough as hell getting out and to make matters worse her character never reacts to the damage at all.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #8521 on:** December 27, 2010, 09:06:40 PM »

Catch-22 is just page after page of text, ad nauseum

iconoclast · « **Reply #8522 on:** December 27, 2010, 09:14:24 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on December 27, 2010, 09:01:04 PM

How the fuck do I fight Jeanne on chapter 2? Beating her is easy but not going for perfection. If she gets you in a combo it's tough as hell getting out and to make matters worse her character never reacts to the damage at all.

Witch time is the answer to everything on normal and hard. It's the "I win button" in the game.

also dodge offset

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #8523 on:** December 27, 2010, 09:39:02 PM »

I am playing AC2, just finished the 7th memory. I'm really starting to think that this game is a piece of shit.

Hitler Stole My Potato · « **Reply #8524 on:** December 27, 2010, 09:59:53 PM »

Civ 5 is pissing me off. The game crashes constantly. I didn't even realize that was an issue until after I bought it but now that it's happening I've been going to their support forums and it looks like it's a pandemic. It's gotten so bad that I've had to turn on the autosave to every turn. Very, very buggy.

I think I may just scratch off Civ 5 and go back to Civ 4.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #8525 on:** December 27, 2010, 10:20:59 PM »

That's weird, I've played 5 hours and haven't had it crash at all. What's your OS/setup?

demi · « **Reply #8526 on:** December 27, 2010, 10:38:55 PM »

Quote from: AdmiralViscen on December 27, 2010, 09:39:02 PM

I am playing AC2, just finished the 7th memory. I'm really starting to think that this game is a piece of shit.

keep thinkin cause you wrong, BITCH

Himu · « **Reply #8527 on:** December 27, 2010, 11:17:24 PM »

Quote from: iconoclast on December 27, 2010, 09:14:24 PM

Quote from: Stringer Bell on December 27, 2010, 09:01:04 PM
How the fuck do I fight Jeanne on chapter 2? Beating her is easy but not going for perfection. If she gets you in a combo it's tough as hell getting out and to make matters worse her character never reacts to the damage at all.

Witch time is the answer to everything on normal and hard. It's the "I win button" in the game.

also dodge offset

What is dodge offset and even when activating witch mode you can't go into in this fight. Bayo just slows down time but no WT happens.

demi · « **Reply #8528 on:** December 27, 2010, 11:21:48 PM »

just mash the button that makes her flip. nothing touches you.

Positive Touch · « **Reply #8529 on:** December 28, 2010, 01:49:16 AM »

also learn the wicked weave combos 4 max damage

iconoclast · « **Reply #8530 on:** December 28, 2010, 01:50:42 AM »

a dodge offset allows you continue a combo after you dodge. you just have to hold the button you hit prior to dodging in order to maintain the combo. so one quick example of a dodge offset would be: P, K(hold), dodge, P. it's kinda hard to explain but that should make sense.

but anyway, on normal, quick weave attacks like PKP and back+forward P or K work well against Jeanne on chapter 2. she doesn't really dodge anything on those difficulties, so you can destroy her in just a few seconds if you hit her with weave after weave.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #8531 on:** December 28, 2010, 01:53:38 AM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on December 27, 2010, 10:20:59 PM

That's weird, I've played 5 hours and haven't had it crash at all. What's your OS/setup?

I also haven't had any crashes with it.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #8532 on:** December 28, 2010, 02:19:11 AM »

I've been playing MadWorld again. Still a fun game. Suck it, demi. Its the superior No More Heroes.

Hitler Stole My Potato · « **Reply #8533 on:** December 28, 2010, 07:36:53 AM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on December 27, 2010, 10:20:59 PM

That's weird, I've played 5 hours and haven't had it crash at all. What's your OS/setup?

I've played it on 2 different computers with the same result. My Windows 7 desktop is an i7-950 with 8 gigs of DDR3 and a NVIDIA GTX465 w 1gig of RAM - this computer is pretty new. I turned everything up to high and am playing it at 1920 X 1200 because my monitor is 29" and plus that computer should be able to handle it. I've updated my drivers but there's still something funky going on here and I can't figure out what going on.

The laptop I tried it on was only a dual core t4500 on Windows Vista 64 with 4 gigs of DDR2 and a NVIDIA 9800M with 1 gig of RAM. I can bump it down to Direct X 9 and the game seems more stable but I've still ran into a couple of lock-ups.

Diunx · « **Reply #8534 on:** December 28, 2010, 09:37:44 AM »

Been playing gow3 the game is pretty fun and the graphics are amazing and the boss fights are awesome(especially the Hercules fight) but I'm really dissapointed by the fact that the gameplay is exactly the same as the other two games they didn't even add new moves to the blades smh. Since this is the last one of the trilogy or whatever I hope that the next game reboots the gameplay.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #8535 on:** December 28, 2010, 10:13:54 AM »

Bought Dragon Quest IX and have been playing it for a few days. Theres something about playing a full fledged good quality RPG on a handheld. Pick it up, play, grind, progress the story, put it down. Its addictive.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #8536 on:** December 28, 2010, 11:12:13 AM »

is there a feature in Bayonetta similar to the lock on from DMC? Like in DMC you would do different moves if you locked on to a specific target as apposed to just doing moves freely.

Beezy · « **Reply #8537 on:** December 28, 2010, 11:19:39 AM »

No. Lock on in Bayonetta really isn't needed.

Himu · « **Reply #8538 on:** December 28, 2010, 11:22:56 AM »

Yes. Lock on is R1/RB. Some moves are much easier to do while locked on such as knocking enemies up in the air (Back + kick). Whereas it takes, forward -> forward -> kick to do the heelslide without lock on, WITH lock on it's a simple forward -> kick.

Beezy · « **Reply #8539 on:** December 28, 2010, 11:36:50 AM »

It's the same moveset though.

Himu · « **Reply #8540 on:** December 28, 2010, 12:23:50 PM »

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #8541 on:** December 28, 2010, 01:11:19 PM »

i fucking hate the huge bosses that require you to fight their hands/arms. it always sucks. always.

Beezy · « **Reply #8542 on:** December 28, 2010, 01:15:24 PM »

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on December 28, 2010, 01:11:19 PM

i fucking hate the huge bosses that require you to fight their hands/arms. I always suck. always.

figures

Himu · « **Reply #8543 on:** December 28, 2010, 01:36:05 PM »

they own

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #8544 on:** December 28, 2010, 01:44:56 PM »

the one that takes place at the airport(i think?) where you eventually attack the red bulbs on his body was terrible. like, whats fun about it? these games are at their best when you're fighting enemies at your level. like in DMC4. the best part of the entire game was the boss battle against Credo. fantastic back and forth action against an enemy that fights as hard as you do. the worst? the end boss battle. fuckin' awful. guess it's just a matter of taste here because. do you guys just really enjoy seeing the huge EPICNESS of it? because that's the only thing i got out of it.

Beezy · « **Reply #8545 on:** December 28, 2010, 01:51:00 PM »

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on December 28, 2010, 01:44:56 PM

the one that takes place at the airport(i think?) where you eventually attack the red bulbs on his body was terrible. like, whats fun about it? these games are at their best when you're fighting enemies at your level. like in DMC4. the best part of the entire game was the boss battle against Credo. fantastic back and forth action against an enemy that fights as hard as you do. the worst? the end boss battle. fuckin' awful. guess it's just a matter of taste here because. do you guys just really enjoy seeing the huge EPICNESS of it? because that's the only thing i got out of it.

That's like 2-3 encounters for a total of 15 mins in DMC4. You fight Jeanne much more often and the fights are much better, at least on hard. I can't really remember normal.

Anyway the big boss fights are still fun. I love the nonstop wicked weave attacks and making huge enemies your bitch by hitting their weak points is always good.

Himu · « **Reply #8546 on:** December 28, 2010, 01:54:37 PM »

punching a huge towering 50 foot tall giant a mile away like a bitch is always so satisfying

beezy what is wicked weave

Beezy · « **Reply #8547 on:** December 28, 2010, 01:59:52 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on December 28, 2010, 01:54:37 PM

punching a huge towering 50 foot tall giant a mile away like a bitch is always so satisfying

beezy what is wicked weave

Any attack where she uses her hair as a giant fist, foot, sword, summon, etc. She uses them nonstop against certain bosses.

Himu · « **Reply #8548 on:** December 28, 2010, 02:02:06 PM »

I love when she slams a size 60 shoe on an enemy's balls

Beezy · « **Reply #8549 on:** December 28, 2010, 02:04:21 PM »

Himu · « **Reply #8550 on:** December 28, 2010, 02:35:38 PM »

That size 100 heel is the shit.

iconoclast · « **Reply #8551 on:** December 28, 2010, 04:11:45 PM »

just got 5.92 billion in Deathsmiles IIX mode. the achievement is for 6 billion. fffffffuuuuuuuuuu

No More Heroes 360 is bullshit too. Sometimes I can play for 40 minutes straight without any freezing or disc read errors, other times it's almost impossible to start the game. Almost done with the rank 9 boss anyway. If I do play this game to the end, I'll probably have beaten it 6 times by the time I've finished between all the freezing and replaying missions over and over.

Also the graphics in Wrestle Kingdom are way better than I was expecting. Not a bad game either - it's very AKI'ish.

Bebpo · « **Reply #8552 on:** December 28, 2010, 05:59:08 PM »

Fistful is right though even in action games like shinobi or god of war the 1 on 1 human sized fights are the best. Big bosses are nice for show, but they end up just being gimmicks with big patterns. Human fights are way more intense. Jeanne fight at the end is awesome and final Vergil fight is still the best five mins of combat ever in a game.

demi · « **Reply #8553 on:** December 28, 2010, 06:07:02 PM »

arent all fights in action games patterns. dont delude yourself bebpo.

Beezy · « **Reply #8554 on:** December 28, 2010, 06:17:02 PM »

demi with the real talk

Himu · « **Reply #8555 on:** December 28, 2010, 06:40:44 PM »

what demi said

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #8556 on:** December 28, 2010, 06:52:15 PM »

if you want to break it down to it's simplest form then yeah, it's all just patterns. but there are big difference between the huge colossal boss fights and the 1 to 1 fights like Credo, or Virgil, or Agni and Rudra, or Jeanne.

demi · « **Reply #8557 on:** December 28, 2010, 06:55:54 PM »

and what would that be. i 1000'd DMC4 and Bayo. i fought credo more times than my pussy lips can count. i got that cunt twat memorized. nothing but a pattern.

Himu · « **Reply #8558 on:** December 28, 2010, 06:59:01 PM »

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on December 28, 2010, 06:52:15 PM

if you want to break it down to it's simplest form then yeah, it's all just patterns. but there are big difference between the huge colossal boss fights and the 1 to 1 fights like Credo, or Virgil, or Agni and Rudra, or Jeanne.

so? fighting the big bosses is nothing because they tend to have their own minions. I just don't see the problem. In DMC4, maybe. NG1? It's fine. In NG2? Surely. But Bayonetta? It's fine. There's nothing wrong with fighting bosses. It all comes down to how they are designed. Simply being big bosses does not negate the possibility of being fun to fight and their size is in no way pertinent. A lot of NG2's boss fights feature giant creatures. Do the boss fights suck because you're fighting giants? No, they suck because they're poorly designed. Because fighting the human bosses in NG doesn't necessarily make human bosses better, because both types of bosses have patterns. It's how the big boss fights are handled.

In comparison, NG1 has big bosses as well, and many of those are actually pretty damn good. The same can be said for Bayo.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #8559 on:** December 28, 2010, 07:05:10 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on December 28, 2010, 06:59:01 PM

It all comes down to how they are designed. Simply being big bosses does not negate the possibility of being fun to fight and their size is in no way pertinent.

and from my experience in the genre, they are all designed mostly identically. dodge large attack..... dodge large attack. boss placed limb close to pedestal i am standing on - attack attack attack.
repeat until boss is dead.

so far every one of these in bayo has been the same. it's boooooooooooooooooooooooring. the most fun that the game delivers is when it puts me in an arena and makes me face a number of enemies on my level. in every instance of this I've enjoyed myself. in every instance of the game making me face some huge colossus I havent had any fun.

edit: to put it in the best perspective I can. stuff like the giant plant lady boss from DMC4 are the worse kind of bosses in the genre. stuff like Credo are the best. that tells you what I like and don't like in the genre.

Himu · « **Reply #8560 on:** December 28, 2010, 07:18:19 PM »

what about this?

[youtube=560,345]NAaJU7Tfz-k[/youtube]

I like how big boss fights require precise accuracy in dodging projectiles, sometimes multiple at once. Slashing a body part? So? You're slashing up a dude's body if it's a "human" boss. Same thing, right?

Himu · « **Reply #8561 on:** December 28, 2010, 07:19:41 PM »

jesus christ ninja gaiden sigma looks like ass. looks like ngb with bloom speared on it.

Beezy · « **Reply #8562 on:** December 28, 2010, 07:21:37 PM »

Oh god, the bad memories are coming back. Take it away!

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #8563 on:** December 28, 2010, 07:28:28 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on December 28, 2010, 07:18:19 PM

what about this?

[youtube=560,345]NAaJU7Tfz-k[/youtube]

seriously? that video pretty much runs down the checklist of the shit i hate about big boss fights. not even getting into the fact that i'm not fond of ninja gaiden to begin with, the boss battle looked dull as shit. you can't honestly say that is on par or even in the same fucking league with the stuff i've previous mentioned. come on himu, you can't be that blind.

Himu · « **Reply #8564 on:** December 28, 2010, 07:32:47 PM »

What

It's a great fight with great patterns!

Beezy · « **Reply #8565 on:** December 28, 2010, 07:37:41 PM »

Bone Dragon can eat a dick. NG is a great game, but that fight was the lowest point, not Alma. She was ok.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #8566 on:** December 28, 2010, 07:41:38 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on December 28, 2010, 07:32:47 PM

What It's a great fight with great patterns!

well clearly we play these games for far different reasons

iconoclast · « **Reply #8567 on:** December 28, 2010, 07:43:49 PM »

Both NG Sigmas suck compared to the OG versions.

Battles against giant enemies tend to be far more pattern-based than battles against normal sized guys. Normal enemies almost always require far more twitch skill because they tend to have a much larger variety of attacks that they can use at any time. Fighting someone with the same moveset as you who can walk around the arena just as fast as you is a lot different from fighting a giant enemy who doesn't move at all. So yes, battles against humans are almost always better. NG2 is a prime example of this: Fiend Genshin is one of the best bosses in action game history. He is absolutely perfectly designed. Alexei is a decent boss, Elizebet is a great boss, and Volf is so-so. Literally every other boss in the game ranges from absolutely fucking horrible to god-awful.

All of the bosses in Bayonetta are at least good though. Jeanne is probably the best one. Pure Platinum'ing one of the later fights against her on Infinite Climax is one of the most satisfying things in any action game.

Aaaand I just got my 6bil achievement and 1cc'd Deathsmiles IIX.

Satan Claws

Himu · « **Reply #8568 on:** December 28, 2010, 07:48:04 PM »

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on December 28, 2010, 07:41:38 PM

Quote from: Stringer Bell on December 28, 2010, 07:32:47 PM
What It's a great fight with great patterns!

well clearly we play these games for far different reasons

I play because they're fun and figuring how to win fights is a blast.

Himu · « **Reply #8569 on:** December 28, 2010, 07:49:42 PM »

Whats bad about NGS2?

demi · « **Reply #8570 on:** December 28, 2010, 07:51:34 PM »

woah gys. why is ninja gaiden in this conversation. we're talking good games... dont sour this.

Beezy · « **Reply #8571 on:** December 28, 2010, 08:03:21 PM »

You already brought up DMC4

iconoclast · « **Reply #8572 on:** December 28, 2010, 08:05:26 PM »

NGS2 faults:
Removed weapons (windmill shuirken, incendiary shuriken, water harpoon)
Babby easy
Being forced to play as three useless women in poorly designed stages (although the boss fights are decent)
Scoring system is *still* garbage
No survival mode

But it's mostly the babby easy thing that kills it. NG2 will fucking stomp your balls into dust. NGS2 is almost as easy as combo games like Bayonetta and DMC4. Stages in NGS2 are ghost towns compared to the armies of vicious enemies you'd have go through in the original game. It's just not nearly as fun.

They fixed a lot of the shitty things in NG2, but at the same time, they "fixed" a lot of stuff that wasn't broken to begin with and fucked up the game in the process.

demi · « **Reply #8573 on:** December 28, 2010, 08:05:33 PM »

adults are speaking, beez... wait your turn

cool breeze · « **Reply #8574 on:** December 28, 2010, 08:20:56 PM »

Quote from: iconoclast on December 28, 2010, 07:43:49 PM

Battles against giant enemies tend to be far more pattern-based than battles against normal sized guys. Normal enemies almost always require far more twitch skill because they tend to have a much larger variety of attacks that they can use at any time. Fighting someone with the same moveset as you who can walk around the arena just as fast as you is a lot different from fighting a giant enemy who doesn't move at all. So yes, battles against humans are almost always better. NG2 is a prime example of this: Fiend Genshin is one of the best bosses in action game history...Literally every other boss in the game ranges from absolutely fucking horrible to god-awful.

changed a bit so I can truly say I agree with it. I wasn't a big fan of NG2, but the Genshin fights were a blast. Fights against him and that one stage where you're running on a river are my favorite parts about that game.

In general I think battles against comparatively sized enemies are always more entertaining than large ones. It's even better when you fight enemies with similar moves, like Devil Hand. At that point your besting an enemy based on skill alone because you're basically equally matched. One of the few exceptions I can think of is God of War. That combat system seems more for fighting large enemies or large crowds, so when you get to fighting Zeus or something, it doesn't feel as satisfying.

and yeah, so much about NG2 was just terrible. I'm remembering things like the underwater one or where you're fighting the dragon with the bow and arrow. What the fuck? you have this awesome fighting system. stop spamming explosives and making me use the bow and arrow and just let me fight people. Or that giant worm thing...what the fuck?

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #8575 on:** December 28, 2010, 08:37:09 PM »

i think i'm nearing the end of Bayonetta so i'll stop talking about it - finish it - then write something up in the main thread. most of my opinions about the game haven't changed much despite people saying it "gets way better as it goes" and such.

I played some Crysis then Crysis Warhead today since I bought them in the Steam daily.
played each for about 40 minutes or so on DELTA. God fucking damn they are brutal. I remember playing on normal long back and tried to implement similar strategies to get by. and failed. finding myself being far more stealthy. i think these games are the closest we've gotten to a true Predator game.
Crytek should totally make a Predator game.

iconoclast · « **Reply #8576 on:** December 28, 2010, 08:38:11 PM »

The water dragon is probably my favorite of the monster bosses in NG2 actually. I don't mind fighting him on that little platform and dodging the bullets he shoots and such, plus he has the best Obliteration Technique animation in the game. So awesome.

The worm tunnel is the section of NG2 I hate the most, but not because that boss. There's hundreds of those little crab enemies walking around, and if you are playing for karma.... have fun milking them for 3 hours with 1 hit of the kusari gama. Some of the Tests of Valor on Master Ninja are a nightmare during karma runs too. God what a bad scoring system. All they had to do to fix it was add the timer back in. $:-\$

Himu · « **Reply #8577 on:** December 28, 2010, 08:42:41 PM »

water dragon was horrible due to the little tiny platform.

despite ng2's flaws i still like it more than bayo, at least so far. then again, i'm only three chapters deep into bayo with five hours clocked.

Beezy · « **Reply #8578 on:** December 28, 2010, 08:49:45 PM »

Quote from: demi on December 28, 2010, 08:05:33 PM

adults are speaking, beez... wait your turn

u mad?

Himu · « **Reply #8579 on:** December 28, 2010, 08:59:03 PM »

Quote from: iconoclast on December 28, 2010, 08:05:26 PM

NGS2 faults:
Removed weapons (windmill shuirken, incendiary shuriken, water harpoon)
Babby easy
Being forced to play as three useless women in poorly designed stages (although the boss fights are decent)
Scoring system is *still* garbage
No survival mode

But it's mostly the babby easy thing that kills it. NG2 will fucking stomp your balls into dust. NGS2 is almost as easy as combo games like Bayonetta and DMC4. Stages in NGS2 are ghost towns compared to the armies of vicious enemies you'd have go through in the original game. It's just not nearly as fun.

They fixed a lot of the shitty things in NG2, but at the same time, they "fixed" a lot of stuff that wasn't broken to begin with and fucked up the game in the process.

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Author Topic: What are you playing? (Read 4673848 times)