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Bebpo

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36480 on: February 21, 2021, 03:59:38 AM »
fwiw, I am enjoying DQXIs. Definitely one of the best jrpgs in the last decade. I think some stuff could be better, but overall it's pretty good. Amazing graphics, great cast, great story stuff, fast battles that are fun, good music.

It's probably like a 9/10 to me so far.

It's hard to find high quality jrpgs anymore. Outside DQXIs, the only jrpgs I'd put at 9/10 or above in the last five years are probably FFVIIr & Persona 5. Been moving more to wrpgs honestly.

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« Reply #36481 on: February 21, 2021, 04:14:30 AM »
I'm playing Ys VIII and this game straight up fucks

Traversal speed
Combat feel
Talking about taking shits in the morning
Ys VIII deserves all the love.

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« Reply #36482 on: February 21, 2021, 07:12:57 AM »
I just finished chapter 7 of Ys IX and I think I may like it even more than Ys VIII. Only complaints are the bland color palette and that combat feels a bit easier than VIII (played both on normal). The story is fairly simple but well-told and the translation is vastly improved over VIII. But traversal is even better and the verticality in the dungeons is pretty cool. Probably gonna end up being my GOTY unless Bravely 2 turns out really good.
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« Reply #36483 on: February 21, 2021, 02:58:07 PM »
Yea I though xb2 was the wafi shit game

XB1 is all about getting the husbandos: Reyn, Dunban, and da furry gawd Riki.  :whew
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Bebpo

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« Reply #36484 on: February 21, 2021, 03:35:19 PM »
I just finished chapter 7 of Ys IX and I think I may like it even more than Ys VIII. Only complaints are the bland color palette and that combat feels a bit easier than VIII (played both on normal). The story is fairly simple but well-told and the translation is vastly improved over VIII. But traversal is even better and the verticality in the dungeons is pretty cool. Probably gonna end up being my GOTY unless Bravely 2 turns out really good.

Ys IX keeps getting better until the end. It's a great game. Hopefully more people play it.

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« Reply #36485 on: February 21, 2021, 05:15:53 PM »
I downloaded Cultist Simulator the other day on my new phone and.... I have no idea what I am doing, but I am weirdly enjoying it.

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« Reply #36486 on: February 21, 2021, 07:24:26 PM »
Until shonuff gifted me his Xbox One, I had been strictly PlayStation 4 for the previous console generation. So I never bought Rock Band 4 despite playing the hell out of the first three games on 360. All of my hardware is for Xbox platform, and all of my DLC is on Xbox.

Now that I have an xbone, I had a copy of RB4 sent from America, but still worried that they DLC might not download on a Japanese Xbone.

The installation process is weird. I guess disc installs have a “minimum install” scenario where you can play most of the game. But I couldn’t download anything new until it’s finished doing it 15 GB patch and install. When that finished, I looked through the menus and tried to figure out where all of my DLC is. It told me it had successfully downloaded 13 pieces. I have significantly more than 13 songs on this series.

Then I found the separate menu header that said exports! There was only one header, for RB3, but it had a error where it just lands on a blank dialogue. After looking it up online, it turns out I waited too long and the RB3 Export was disabled last December. I missed it by 6 weeks.

In-game, I see a massive tracklist, and it shows me that I have purchased a good portion of the library, but it hasn’t automatically downloaded anything. I download a couple tracks, but it is slow and requires click through on several menus and system dialogs in every case. I’ve got some thing like 400 pieces of DLC.  I go back online and look for more information, and find Harmonix’ own how-to for automatically downloading all previously purchased DLC. Unfortunately, it is for a previous version of the X bone interface, and is inaccurate.

I think I finally figured it out though, so whole bunch of stuff is downloading now. We will see if the game finds it properly.

Bebpo

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« Reply #36487 on: February 21, 2021, 08:07:47 PM »


DQXIs - I've spent the last hour playing roulette while listening to podcasts for this dumb quest, which apparently is the hardest quest in the entire game. The bunny girl says she feels like someone is going to win soon and I've probably done 100 spins since and gotten within 2 spaces a few times but otherwise nothing.

Only reason I am wasting my time on this is I read if you win the jackpot for this quest you get so many coins you can buy a ton of pep pop and then clear out all the pep sidequests pretty instantly for the rest of the game. So will save time on that end. But yeah, this is terrible. Bunny girl obviously has a strange definition of "soon"

Also apparently most people flag this is an Act 3 post-game sidequest, but somehow I unlocked it in Act 2 and was going down my quest list clearing all of them and got to this and so this is where I've been for an hour.

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« Reply #36488 on: February 21, 2021, 08:31:21 PM »
Yeah, while I didn't have as much trouble as you did with the pep up -related sidequests, the casino one was the most annoying... took me 3 or 4 hours to get enough. You only need 50/60 quests for the trophy to unlock so if you're not a super-completionist it doesn't matter that much if you skip.
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Bebpo

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« Reply #36489 on: February 21, 2021, 08:39:03 PM »




Took me about 90 mins, I started going and doing 10 runs per table in case the RNG luck of the day only applied to a specific table. Ended up getting the jackpot on the 10 coin one so all I got was a measly 30,000 coins instead of 1,000,000 :|

Plus it turns out they don't even sell pep pops until Act 3 at the Casino so doesn't matter.

Yeah, while I didn't have as much trouble as you did with the pep up -related sidequests, the casino one was the most annoying... took me 3 or 4 hours to get enough. You only need 50/60 quests for the trophy to unlock so if you're not a super-completionist it doesn't matter that much if you skip.

Not going for the trophy, just want to clear out my quest list as much as I can before finishing Act II.

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« Reply #36490 on: February 21, 2021, 08:42:46 PM »
Speed Limit is really awesome



It's also kicking my ass
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« Reply #36491 on: February 21, 2021, 08:42:50 PM »
I'm playing Ys VIII and this game straight up fucks

Traversal speed
Combat feel
Talking about taking shits in the morning

Oh nice someone who is enjoying the game they are playing

Ys 8 rules

Did you cum to the beach theme?

I don't EVER want to leave the beach

demi

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« Reply #36492 on: February 21, 2021, 08:43:46 PM »
Where do you get that quest? I don't even have that... maybe it's locked until I finish one
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Bebpo

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« Reply #36493 on: February 21, 2021, 09:54:02 PM »
Got all the non-retro quests done outside one on Mt. Hoji since I haven't gone there yet and a single quest that is still greyed out ???. Started back on the retro quests, just gotta clear the ones I have out and then all caught up and ready to do the rest of the Act II story. I forgot how insane the encounter rate is in the retro quest monster areas. Holy water non-stop there.

*ok* finished up all the retro quests too, back to main story! I think I burned through like 40+ quests today jeezz; gained a few more levels though and got a few good pieces of equipment so not bad.

DQXI has made me realize that part of DQ's DNA is just RNG even though I dislike RNG. Like between the Pep Powers, the Casino stuff and the enemy spawns that only appear after a certain number of normal enemies killed (the killer robot one in the frozen fjord took me like 20 mins of killing dozens of them). I get the feeling DQXI's probably a slightly better game if you just ignore most of the optional stuff and just do the main story in the acts.

Where do you get that quest? I don't even have that... maybe it's locked until I finish one

There's a girl in Octogonal. She didn't have a quest marker (bug?) but the quest book showed ??? in white and said there was a girl looking for a statue and I was able to get it.
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Bebpo

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« Reply #36494 on: February 21, 2021, 10:04:36 PM »
Oh and forgot the all party RNG turn loss attacks and iirc from past DQs, the final bosses with instakills. Yeah you can mitigate this all to some degree, but out of all the rpg series out there I'm starting to feel that DQ thinks RNG is fun and it's a part of the franchise design.

Freyj

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« Reply #36495 on: February 22, 2021, 02:25:46 AM »
Act 3 is an RNG mess with turn loss on the bosses.

Rahxephon91

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« Reply #36496 on: February 22, 2021, 02:31:48 AM »
I finished Ys 9 and went right back into Ys 8 to finally finish it.

They are good, but both have the same problems. Too much story and game diversions.

Falcom games look mediocre and the story scenes are stilted and boring. I also simply don't think they write good stories. It all feels like trite and bland fantasy stuff. Ys 9 is a bit more interesting, but it takes over half of the game to get there.

Also playing as Dana in 8 and regular Adol in 9 is just boring. I want to be out there on the field with my party running around, doing what these games do best. Not your attempts at mixing up the game. These games should be shorter, not longer.

demi

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« Reply #36497 on: February 22, 2021, 02:32:18 AM »
I haven't had any issues with turn loss. There's lots of armors and accessories to help alleviate many negative effects
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Bebpo

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« Reply #36498 on: February 22, 2021, 03:05:13 AM »
I haven't had any issues with turn loss. There's lots of armors and accessories to help alleviate many negative effects

It does kinda suck when you don’t know what the boss attacks are before going in.

Plus the bosses have a pattern of doing all party turn loss status effect x 2 attacks in a row. So if they miss your whole team the first go around they get a second shot.

In the end I’ve only died once on a boss so far this game so it’s not a big deal, just annoying. Really depends on how far act 3 takes it for the tougher boss fights + rng.

Freyj

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« Reply #36499 on: February 22, 2021, 11:58:45 AM »
There are plenty of status effect rings and that one Ribbon-like one but you really need them all 3-starred for full effect and tbh swapping accessories around to make yourself immune to the bosses RNG flavor of choice is sort of boring.

I never really cared much for Act 3 anyway and the bosses on Draconian with their 3 turns didn’t help. Wonderful game tho.

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« Reply #36500 on: February 22, 2021, 01:01:36 PM »
Act 3 is great. Lots of "clean up before the final battle" and it helps close the story out. Imagine quitting at Act 2 thinking you beat the game. Lmao
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« Reply #36501 on: February 22, 2021, 02:04:36 PM »
I never really cared much for Act 3 anyway and the bosses on Draconian with their 3 turns didn’t help.

Act 3 has all the best fights in the game playing on normal though. It was fun finally having a reason to use pep powers.

For status effects, if you don't have the right items you could also use the Snap Crackle Poof spell for immunity to everything. With the right setup you can get 3 copies of it on turn 1 even.

Bebpo

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« Reply #36502 on: February 22, 2021, 03:31:10 PM »
Cool, well I guess I'll see what I think when I get to Act III.

Hopefully you don't need +3 gear. I usually aim for +1/+2 on first attempt and only rework if I don't even get +1. Pretty rare I get a +3 and don't want to put in the effort. Plus getting the mats and stuff. I think the forge is pretty fun as long as you're ok with not perfecting your gear.

Also probably stupid but I blew my entire game's savings at the casino turning it into chips for that roulette jackpot quest yesterday. 200,000+ coins. But catching up on sidequests, especially the retro quests I got back like 75,000 so I still have some money. But mats can get pricey if I need to be doing a lot of crafting in post-game.

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« Reply #36503 on: February 22, 2021, 06:10:27 PM »
You don't need +3 but it does help with some accessories (going from +20% to +50% defense against [ailment])

Save your +3 min-max until you get your endgame gear, otherwise just try to to get good forge from the start - you can always rework with Pearls which are easily purchasable from some vendors.

Act 3 has a [lot] of endgame gear and content, it's pretty meaty.

You still have plenty to do yet
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« Reply #36504 on: February 22, 2021, 06:38:05 PM »
Made it to the Mechonis in Xenoblade. I've never managed to get this far on Wii.
lvl 50 now so I'm competitive with the mechon there. Still, the difficulty ramps up big time for the story bits where it actually matters what characters and arts you pick.


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Bebpo

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« Reply #36505 on: February 22, 2021, 07:34:14 PM »
You don't need +3 but it does help with some accessories (going from +20% to +50% defense against [ailment])

Save your +3 min-max until you get your endgame gear, otherwise just try to to get good forge from the start - you can always rework with Pearls which are easily purchasable from some vendors.

Act 3 has a [lot] of endgame gear and content, it's pretty meaty.

You still have plenty to do yet

I actually had no idea the +1/+2/+3 affected the % on stuff. Thought it was just pure stats. Yeah that makes a huge difference.

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« Reply #36506 on: February 23, 2021, 11:44:31 AM »
Made it to the Mechonis in Xenoblade. I've never managed to get this far on Wii.
lvl 50 now so I'm competitive with the mechon there. Still, the difficulty ramps up big time for the story bits where it actually matters what characters and arts you pick.
The weird thing about Xenoblade, and I don't know if I liked or hated this, is that it would be like "Here's how you stagger an opponent!" And for the next 15 hours that's what you do. Then they're like "Stagger? Screw that, here's how you break an opponent!" And then rinse and repeat that...and then after another 10 or so hours they're like "Toss that! Here's something new!"

On one hand once you feel good at something it takes it away, which can be frustrating. But the other, and probably better hand, it keep the long journey new.  Not like that Resonnance of Fate disaster with a 26 chapter tutorial that was "Here's how you'll fight....the rest of the entire game."
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« Reply #36507 on: February 23, 2021, 05:53:08 PM »
Made it to the Mechonis in Xenoblade. I've never managed to get this far on Wii.
lvl 50 now so I'm competitive with the mechon there. Still, the difficulty ramps up big time for the story bits where it actually matters what characters and arts you pick.
The weird thing about Xenoblade, and I don't know if I liked or hated this, is that it would be like "Here's how you stagger an opponent!" And for the next 15 hours that's what you do. Then they're like "Stagger? Screw that, here's how you break an opponent!" And then rinse and repeat that...and then after another 10 or so hours they're like "Toss that! Here's something new!"

On one hand once you feel good at something it takes it away, which can be frustrating. But the other, and probably better hand, it keep the long journey new.  Not like that Resonnance of Fate disaster with a 26 chapter tutorial that was "Here's how you'll fight....the rest of the entire game."
XB1 is still pretty straight forward in this regard.
It basically goes Break -> Topple -> Daze. And then there's a bunch of buffs and debuff Aura's like defense, tension, poison, speed etc. .
The start of the game is a bit heavy on the 'Break -> Topple' mechanic because you can't hit the Mechon otherwise. That is less of a problem once you unlock Enchant and finally the anti-Mechon weapons.
The game opens up more with additional party members allowing for different strategies. Shulk is just the all-rounder, Dunban is offensive, Reyn is defensive, Sharla the healer, Melia the mage, Riki the trickster etc.

XB2 is much more convoluted in this regard. Having to perform specific actions with Rex or his different blades, chain attacks with or without blades and that robot doll thing that works completely different from any other character in your party with chips you need to level and equip. Then you also have Pyra/Mythra swap later in the game. I think about 30 hours in you still get new tutorials. Dunkey even made a video about it :doge

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« Reply #36508 on: February 23, 2021, 10:06:52 PM »
I just mashed buttons in XB2. Even against the final boss, I had no idea what I was doing. :rejoice
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« Reply #36509 on: February 23, 2021, 11:34:39 PM »
Until shonuff gifted me his Xbox One, I had been strictly PlayStation 4 for the previous console generation. So I never bought Rock Band 4 despite playing the hell out of the first three games on 360. All of my hardware is for Xbox platform, and all of my DLC is on Xbox.

Now that I have an xbone, I had a copy of RB4 sent from America, but still worried that they DLC might not download on a Japanese Xbone.

The installation process is weird. I guess disc installs have a “minimum install” scenario where you can play most of the game. But I couldn’t download anything new until it’s finished doing it 15 GB patch and install. When that finished, I looked through the menus and tried to figure out where all of my DLC is. It told me it had successfully downloaded 13 pieces. I have significantly more than 13 songs on this series.

Then I found the separate menu header that said exports! There was only one header, for RB3, but it had a error where it just lands on a blank dialogue. After looking it up online, it turns out I waited too long and the RB3 Export was disabled last December. I missed it by 6 weeks.

In-game, I see a massive tracklist, and it shows me that I have purchased a good portion of the library, but it hasn’t automatically downloaded anything. I download a couple tracks, but it is slow and requires click through on several menus and system dialogs in every case. I’ve got some thing like 400 pieces of DLC.  I go back online and look for more information, and find Harmonix’ own how-to for automatically downloading all previously purchased DLC. Unfortunately, it is for a previous version of the X bone interface, and is inaccurate.

I think I finally figured it out though, so whole bunch of stuff is downloading now. We will see if the game finds it properly.

477 songs in my RB4 library now.

I am happy.

Bebpo

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« Reply #36510 on: February 24, 2021, 01:37:33 AM »
DQXI S - Got the master sword (nice cutscene) and got a bit into the final dungeon for this act. I like how the crystals are used to shortcut the tower levels. With the master sword cutscene I can see why people compare DQXI to Zelda a bit.

Also what are some good damage dealing attacks for the characters? I've just been using greatsword with the hero and unbridled whatever as my main attack but at some point I noticed that Jade's 7 hit multifeet does even more damage so right now she's my main damage dealer. Erik is alright with divide into critical claim.

Serena/Rab can do like 1/2 that with their biggest spells

Sylvando is my main healer with hustle dance and is good for some buffs like Oomphle on Jade/Hero and Rab using Sap on the boss for max damage for Jade/Hero, but in terms of damage output Slyvando can't do jack shit. Then again might be my fault because I've been using Sylv as a whip build and whip doesn't seem to have any good abilities in this game. I guess if I respec'd to 1H sword maybe there's a good damage 1H sword skill in there somewhere.

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for Knight guy I just use the attack that does like 100 damage to him in exchange for heavy damage output with Axe and it does about the same as Jade/Hero damage.  I'm using axe because I like having a shield on him so he can tank/buff & heal if needed
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Basically no one does any real damage in boss fights besides Hero/Jade, so like 2 characters hitting hard, 1 heals, 1 buffs/debuffs every round.

Then again I've become so overleveled none of this matters anymore. Those retro quest bosses add a shitload of boss xp every quest. I'm hitting 57 with my highest characters at this point and all the enemies are just running away from me.

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« Reply #36511 on: February 24, 2021, 01:48:50 AM »
hmmm check back later in the game, you'll probably change your party up a bit.
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« Reply #36512 on: February 24, 2021, 01:19:08 PM »
Finished Wither 3: Heart of Stone DLC and am on the Blood and Wine  DLC.

Honestly, it's the first time for me that an expansion has been better than the original game. Honestly, I'm damned impressed.
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« Reply #36513 on: February 24, 2021, 09:31:46 PM »
Finished Wither 3: Heart of Stone DLC and am on the Blood and Wine  DLC.

Honestly, it's the first time for me that an expansion has been better than the original game. Honestly, I'm damned impressed.
Blood and Wine is even better.  :shaq

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« Reply #36514 on: February 25, 2021, 01:57:59 AM »
DQXI S - Spent an hour forging gear at the final dungeon so not only really overpowered at lvl.60 party (so many King Metal Slimes in this dungeon) but also really overgeared haha. Have like +3 weapons/armors on everyone. Respec'd skills too to get the highest damage attack for the Hero.

Btw, can we talk about how lulz it is that everyone in the party is dramatic and expressive in cutscenes and the Hero always looks like a mentally distinguished fellow.



Anyhow got to the actual final boss save for the act. It's already pretty late so if there's gonna be a bunch of cutscenes and stuff might leave it for tomorrow.

Also I really enjoy the costumes for this game. Really detailed and like 3-4 per character at this point. This is a game I'd probably have paid DLC money for costume outfits for the cast. Ironically the only cast character I don't have a costume on is the Hero because his all suck. There's basically DQ8, full armored knight zzz, and the circus outfit which is fun but too goofy. So he just looks plain and everyone else is stylin'

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« Reply #36515 on: February 25, 2021, 03:19:17 AM »
Ok, finished Act 2. Yeah, that would have been kind of a weak place to end it. It's fine but so far the "story" of the game is pretty basic in an 8-bit/16-bit way but with modern gfx and great presentation. The characters and town vignettes are really great though.

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The story itself is just sorta simple heroes get together and go fight the evil lord of darkness,
lose, then get back together and go fight the lord of darkness with the master sword. The end.
Fine, but very simple.
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And they definitely left a lot unexplained for Act 3

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I mean the tockles things being from the opening cutscene to the end and the game never really does anything with them outside the little retro area.
Plus the whole Edwin's Lantern arc outside Gallopolis was really weird and basically a prelude to Act 3 dealing with it.
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Looking forward to getting started on this arc. I read somewhere that the expected levels are like lvl.50 by the end of Act 2 and lvl.70 by the end of act 3. So you don't have to grind to 99?

Is it like there's an Act 3 w/ending (lvl.70~) -> post-post-game after (70-99 extra dungeons/secret super bosses)? Or is this all just Act 3?

Oh and getting that ultimate blade skill for the Hero was pretty worthless. It eats an insane amount of MP and somehow does less than Unbridled Blade? Is that because it's based on lvl/character stats whereas Unbridled Blade is based off Greatsword stats? For the end of Act 2, Jade was still doing the most damage with multifeet while on Oomphle. Was hitting about 1,000-1,100 damage per turn and Hero was doing like 600-800 damage.

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« Reply #36516 on: February 25, 2021, 07:09:53 AM »
Finished Wither 3: Heart of Stone DLC and am on the Blood and Wine  DLC.

Honestly, it's the first time for me that an expansion has been better than the original game. Honestly, I'm damned impressed.
Blood and Wine is even better.  :shaq
Didn't like the plot nearly as much (mostly because the 'big bad' is an idiot), but the environments - the environments. :rejoice

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« Reply #36517 on: February 25, 2021, 08:07:26 AM »
Finished Wither 3: Heart of Stone DLC and am on the Blood and Wine  DLC.

Honestly, it's the first time for me that an expansion has been better than the original game. Honestly, I'm damned impressed.
Blood and Wine is even better.  :shaq
Didn't like the plot nearly as much (mostly because the 'big bad' is an idiot), but the environments - the environments. :rejoice
I can agree on the plot, but as closer to wrap up everything was pure bliss.

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« Reply #36518 on: February 25, 2021, 11:27:38 AM »
Finished Wither 3: Heart of Stone DLC and am on the Blood and Wine  DLC.

Honestly, it's the first time for me that an expansion has been better than the original game. Honestly, I'm damned impressed.
Blood and Wine is even better.  :shaq
Wow wow wow. Y'all weren't kidding. While Heart of stone sorta felt like an extension of the story, Blood and Wine was like a whole additional game. The city and everything you could do. An amazing experience. And I love how your choices actually matter. This is so much better thought out than any 3d WRPG I can remember.  And the feeling of accomplishment and resolution at the end? with that 4th wall break at the end? :delicious
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« Reply #36519 on: February 25, 2021, 12:17:13 PM »
Up to the Point of No Return in Ys IX, finishing up the last few sidequests, getting the monsters/map completion/treasures I missed, and grinding for the 2000 Nox trophy before I tackle the final dungeon. Will probably try for every trophy except 'beat game on nightmare'.

Also been playing 3D World Switch from time to time. Beat the regular game, but now going back and doing the collectathon and postgame stuff.
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« Reply #36520 on: February 25, 2021, 12:38:18 PM »
I can agree on the plot, but as closer to wrap up everything was pure bliss.
The epilogue was perfect, with Geralt nodding at the 4th wall as Regis say that they deserve a rest. Yes. Yes, you do. :tocry

edit: I see Puppy mentioned it already. :lol

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« Reply #36521 on: February 25, 2021, 09:35:26 PM »
In the new GnG Switch, any idea what the difference is between the 4 difficulties besides the lowest one being instant spot revive? Do the other 3 just change the level layouts/damage/HP etc...?

Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36522 on: February 25, 2021, 11:46:13 PM »
Persona 5 Strikers is okay so far. It's a lot more like a normal RPG than a straight up musou game. Combat and everything in the dungeons is pretty fun, but the rest of the game is kind of dull. Without the time management and decision making of the original series, the structure of the game becomes shit. It's just your party (who kind of suck) all the time, endlessly repeating their buzzwords. This should have been a non-cannon spinoff with the cast of the last 3 persona games with minimal story. As a straight sequel to P5, it's really lacking.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36523 on: February 26, 2021, 12:39:53 AM »
Idk if I'm feeling the new Ghosts n' Goblins. I remember loving the ever fuck out of the PSP one (Ultimate) in 2006. Was challenging but played really well. I feel like this plays a lot worse and the stages from the start are more trolling.

The hardest part in the first stage was this stupid trolling platform moving over water that constantly changed its pattern so when you jumped and were committed it would change to a different pattern and you'd fall to your death. Took me like 5 lives to make the stupid jump. The rest of the stage was mostly fine.

Bebpo

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36524 on: February 26, 2021, 12:50:15 AM »
Wait, wtf. This game runs like 20fps docked but in portable mode it's like 60fps smooth?

This has to be a glitch.

Freyj

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36525 on: February 26, 2021, 01:06:23 AM »
Ok, finished Act 2. Yeah, that would have been kind of a weak place to end it. It's fine but so far the "story" of the game is pretty basic in an 8-bit/16-bit way but with modern gfx and great presentation. The characters and town vignettes are really great though.

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The story itself is just sorta simple heroes get together and go fight the evil lord of darkness,
lose, then get back together and go fight the lord of darkness with the master sword. The end.
Fine, but very simple.
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And they definitely left a lot unexplained for Act 3

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I mean the tockles things being from the opening cutscene to the end and the game never really does anything with them outside the little retro area.
Plus the whole Edwin's Lantern arc outside Gallopolis was really weird and basically a prelude to Act 3 dealing with it.
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Looking forward to getting started on this arc. I read somewhere that the expected levels are like lvl.50 by the end of Act 2 and lvl.70 by the end of act 3. So you don't have to grind to 99?

Is it like there's an Act 3 w/ending (lvl.70~) -> post-post-game after (70-99 extra dungeons/secret super bosses)? Or is this all just Act 3?

Oh and getting that ultimate blade skill for the Hero was pretty worthless. It eats an insane amount of MP and somehow does less than Unbridled Blade? Is that because it's based on lvl/character stats whereas Unbridled Blade is based off Greatsword stats? For the end of Act 2, Jade was still doing the most damage with multifeet while on Oomphle. Was hitting about 1,000-1,100 damage per turn and Hero was doing like 600-800 damage.

Once your party is fully reassembled I would do the Electro Light Hallelujah trick with some Pep Pips/Pops to get to the high 60s at least, not sure if you’re on Draconian. Save before so you can reset for the Kings, etc. Some of the bosses after that point can be a little frustrating without the levels or well prepped resists.

If you mean Quadrablade it’s nice for clearing regular encounters but Unbridled / Swords Dance w/ the best 1H are way better options for bosses.

And I don’t think Act 2 is a good place to end but I’m not a big fan of the way Act 2 and 3 are structured.

Bebpo

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36526 on: February 26, 2021, 01:17:49 AM »
You think dual-wielding two 1Hs are better than using a single greatsword? I've been using greatswords the whole game with the Hero.

The Hallelujah trick sucks because I hate the wait between casting that and defending over and over until pepped back up with Jade to do Electric Light Show...and then you get killer robots or the slimes get away. It's just tedious af time waster.

I feel like it's quicker to just save then electric light show and try to get all slime kills.

I'm playing on normal difficulty and the bit I read online said Act 3 finishes around lvl.70? Sounds like I probably shouldn't need to grind if I'm starting at 60 on normal? Idk, I'll give it a shot until I hit a wall.

*edit* just looked it up, on normal the recommended levels for the final boss of Act 3 are 70-75. Since I figure there's a lot of bosses to fight before then and levels to gain, probably ok without much grinding.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36527 on: February 26, 2021, 03:00:19 AM »
Ok, I started Act 3 in DQXI, wtf is this

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Alternate route story is ok, but all my party members are lvl.30. Don't tell me I will need to level them all back from 30?

Also story-wise this is super annoying that the Hero can't remember the past and just like explain to people what is going on instead of little glimpses at the last minute to save his ass.

And Act 3 being about saving Veronica is laaaame. I thought it was a nice surprise when they killed her off in Act 2. Made Serena's stuff work better. This feels like FF doing a save Aerith route. Meh.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36528 on: February 26, 2021, 03:00:32 AM »
Hallelujah is unnecessary, only worth using if you have a stockpile of Pep Pip/Pops, and you don't want to use Pep Pops unless you dont care to try to fight the secret boss

You can get upwards of 300,000 XP in one of the final dungeons with Electro Light alone - and you can farm Mini Medals + Pep Pips/Pops too
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Bebpo

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36529 on: February 26, 2021, 04:33:55 AM »
Man, I just don't have the skills & patience for rage-y games like Ghouls & Ghosts anymore.

Just spent an hour of retries to finally beat the second stage/zone boss which was a multi-phase boss and the hard part was the second phase so had to keep wasting a minute or two on the first phase over and over just to get another attempt on the second phase.

The gamespot review where the person rage quit and gave it like a 3/10, like it's not a 3/10 but I completely understand.

It sucks because there will be a really well designed challenging level that's satisfying to clear and it's like this game is great! and then when I hit a roadblock I wanna just delete the game because it's so frustrating after 45 mins attempting the same thing over and over.

I dunno if I'll clear it. Definitely regret having bought it though. Was hoping for something similar and accessible like the last one on psp. Instead this ditches everything from that game and is a throwback to the originals which I never liked.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36530 on: February 26, 2021, 05:17:10 AM »
Big thing here is G&G was probably never good. Stupid hard shit with bad gameplay and terrible hit detection. I get theres tons of nostalgia around certain titles and its becuase its all was available, not because it was good.
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Bebpo

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36531 on: February 26, 2021, 03:03:16 PM »
Yeah idk, I am not skilled enough to say whether the old games were good or not. In general my memories of 8-bit/16-bit stuff are from when I was like 8 years old so 30 year memories ain't accurate. Like when I was a kid I loved TMNT1, Batman NES, Mega Man 4 & California Games lol.


That being said, this new one definitely is just hard af. Someone said that one of the hardcore 2d platformer streamers streamed the whole game yesterday and it took them 12 hours to beat the first run...which is only half the game because it's GnG. And if you no life it, these games are probably like an hour long, but it still took that dude 12 hours. Sure he was playing on the highest difficulty ("Legend") but in terms of accessibility the new one does a slight job imo of making it more accessible. The other difficulty levels add an extra +1 hit or +2 hit to armor and extra checkpoints and slightly fewer enemies in levels, but otherwise the levels are still the same, the bosses don't benefit from extra checkpoints or fewer enemies so even on the easiest difficulty the boss is still the same boss as the highest one except your armor can take 2 extra hits. Also the bosses are long multi-phase bosses. I'm not saying the easier difficulties aren't easier, but with a game where the levels/bosses are as hard as this is, there's really no difficulty that makes it a little easier for old foggies like myself. The double jump in Ultimate was a lot better for accessibility. I'm mostly just bitching because this game was not catered to me like Ultimate was, but that's fine, it's made for a different audience that digs the old games and wants something similar with better visuals and more content.

There is a "Page" difficulty where you are literally invincible, which is really only useful as a way to scout levels and practice them since there's zero challenge or fun in god mode only difficulty. Also Page ends at the end of the first run, so you can't access the second half shadow stages in it.

I'll probably end up beating it because I don't like to lose and will miserably bash my head against a wall for hours and hate myself until I win, but who knows if I'll enjoy it. I've cleared 3 stages so far and I generally liked them, despite frustrations, outside one boss which was tedious and bleh.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36532 on: February 26, 2021, 03:13:47 PM »
Big thing here is G&G was probably never good. Stupid hard shit with bad gameplay and terrible hit detection. I get theres tons of nostalgia around certain titles and its becuase its all was available, not because it was good.

They are alright. But they always have a feel of random to them, which makes them really not as good as Castlevania etc. I played these things way past their release dates.

Bebpo

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36533 on: February 26, 2021, 03:22:52 PM »
Big thing here is G&G was probably never good. Stupid hard shit with bad gameplay and terrible hit detection. I get theres tons of nostalgia around certain titles and its becuase its all was available, not because it was good.

They are alright. But they always have a feel of random to them, which makes them really not as good as Castlevania etc. I played these things way past their release dates.

Yeah, GnG reminds me the most of Capcom's version of CV, but I find the classic CV games hard/challenging but fun and love stuff like Drac X. CV games feel hard with some tight spots like medusa heads on clock towers, but generally fair whereas GnG feels like a game made by trolls to piss off players.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36534 on: February 26, 2021, 04:00:23 PM »
I never really mastered any of the G&G games myself... like the furthest I've ever made it was the second or third level and then called it quits. I don't mind the stiff controls but it seems to be one too many cheap deaths and constantly respawning enemies - I see Bebpo comparing it to CV, but for how rigid the early CV games are with your character's movement, the enemies are deliberately placed and they're all pretty surmountable once you know the enemy patterns and level layouts.
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Freyj

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36535 on: February 27, 2021, 12:39:47 PM »
Bebpo I definitely wouldn’t bother with Electro / Hallelujah until you have a stockpile of Pep items to try for at least a Liquid or King kill. You’ll get like 5 levels or more so you don’t have to do it very much but yeah manually waiting for Jade’s pep to trigger again is boring.

Also don’t worry about the levels thing and just keep moving the story forward, it’ll take care of itself.

Also also 2 1H is only really worth it once you get a very specific set of 1H swords. Even then Greatswords are still very viable.

Nintex

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36536 on: February 27, 2021, 05:53:17 PM »
More Xenoblade.

About 45 hours in now, lvl 55 or so.
Ripped through the Mechon fortress like a knife through butter with the Shulk, Reyn, Dunban combo.

Then I found
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Fiora. Pretty fucked up what happened to her. Organs removed and all that. Game gets dark sometimes  :doge

And then it be like: "Riki eat yum yum fish!!!"  :lol
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Bebpo

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36537 on: February 27, 2021, 06:15:44 PM »
Also also 2 1H is only really worth it once you get a very specific set of 1H swords. Even then Greatswords are still very viable.

I still don't really understand how dual wielding works in this game. Like if you do a standard attack you hit twice instead of once, ok that is obvious though I think the stats are on the 2nd weapon are cut in like 1/2.

But since you almost never are using standard attack, and your abilities still just hit once or whatever number of times, is the damage based on the combination attack power of the two weapons + default str stats? So if the two weapons attack power combined is higher than your best greatsword you'll do more damage?

The behind the scenes stats in this game are pretty confusing for strategic trying to min-max. Hell the bestiary doesn't even give any info about enemies besides their drops so I don't even know if elements are a thing in DQ. If you use fire spells/weapons against an ice enemies do you do more damaage? If you use ice attacks against an ice enemy do they have resistance to it? I...don't know.

I like the DQ series a lot for the story telling, music, old-school exploration, but for the meat of the gameplay it's just ok and not one of my favorite jrpg series.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36538 on: February 27, 2021, 06:37:29 PM »
If you guys have ever heard of Streets of Rogue, I played a ZZT (ANSI-graphics game creation platform which was Tim Sweeney's first release) game by its developer last night called Burger Joint. It's considered one of the most iconic ZZT games - basically a sort of puzzle game where you're working in a 50's fast food joint, and you have to quickly take care of customers' issues (i.e. using napkins to wipe pee off a seat before a restaurant critic sits down). For a game with ansi graphics made by a high schooler in 1998, it's got its share of charm - a "Grease" style sing-along with the music beeping out on the PC Speaker was a high point of mine.

Link here if you're curious.
https://museumofzzt.com/play/b/burgerj.zip
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demi

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #36539 on: February 27, 2021, 07:29:39 PM »



My clutch Timewyrm kill, it was about to go bad real quick.

https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/demi/video/126966698
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