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« Reply #18480 on: February 16, 2021, 02:05:25 PM »
I liked the various different directors riffing on the Evil Dead motifs - its kind of like watching different comedians tell The Aristocrats; you basically know where its headed from the start, but its watching their own flourishes that add to it.

I think I posted in this thread before about Ash vs Evil Dead that my favorite bit was the Asylum pay off for Ashy Slashy where the team are genuinely worried Ash has flipped, and he's all "What? I told you all my plan!", and he actually did a few episodes earlier, but it was so stupid nobody realised it was an actual plan he was following :rofl

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« Reply #18481 on: February 16, 2021, 03:12:53 PM »
My review of Wandavision

Ep1: 7/10. They nailed the sitcom stuff, except for the writing, which was weak
Ep2: 8/10. A little more entertaining, but problems with the laugh track distracted from the fun.
Ep3: 4/10 Weak episode.
Ep4: 2/10. Oh this is some generic Marvel crap. Yawn. And we dont need a movie theater aspect ratio you fucks we're at home. Also, if youre going to cast the chick from two broke girls, DON'T HIDE HER BEST ASSETS.
Ep5: 6/10. It was fine.
Ep6:  Havent seen yet.
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« Reply #18482 on: February 16, 2021, 03:22:42 PM »
I disliked the first Asylum episode because the convince-you-that-you-are-crazy trope is overdone but the second episode was a good payoff.  At the start of the first episode, the gang found ash using the tracker and Kelly was like 'If we find him, don't tell him we used the pet tracker'
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« Reply #18483 on: February 16, 2021, 08:41:29 PM »
Watched that thing about the Cecil Hotel and Elisa Lam. I'm kind of amazed that they managed to drag that bollocks out over 4 episodes. The stuff about the history of the hotel and skid row was interesting. Maybe they should've made a series about that instead.

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« Reply #18484 on: February 19, 2021, 11:26:52 AM »
Really solid use of the sitcom format / tropes in this weeks wandavision as a payoff

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« Reply #18485 on: February 19, 2021, 12:21:35 PM »
Ya I actually laughed a lot in this episode
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« Reply #18486 on: February 19, 2021, 12:24:23 PM »
Watched 2 episodes (so far) of that new Curtis doc.
It's alright so far, pretty catchy and engagingly put together, but his logical leaps sometimes are annoying to the point of being distracting.

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« Reply #18487 on: February 19, 2021, 03:01:24 PM »
JJ Abrams shooting his jizz everywhere I guess.

Full series order for an HBO Max show.

Limited series order for an Apple+ collab with Stephen King.

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« Reply #18488 on: February 19, 2021, 06:52:42 PM »
Watched 2 episodes (so far) of that new Curtis doc.
It's alright so far, pretty catchy and engagingly put together, but his logical leaps sometimes are annoying to the point of being distracting.
I watched all of HyperNormalisation as well as his new show recently since I ran out of TV shows and found the subject matter and file footage pretty entertaining but some of the leaps and connections seem questionable.

It's minor, but he matter-of-fact claims that Kissinger was the basis for Dr. Strangelove 10 minutes into HyperNormalisation when that's been widely debunked? Reminds me of feeling like there's a lot of shortcuts being taken when I would watch a Michael Moore movie.
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« Reply #18489 on: February 19, 2021, 07:53:46 PM »
I also watched HyperNormies before this, since i had never watched Curtis before and wanted a bit of a "short" primer, before spending 9 hours on him.

And yeah that's more or less what i'm talking about, i think it's his style since Can't Get You Out Of My Head is exactly the same, but it can leave you saying "wait back up, what?!", while he's already 7 syllogistic steps ahead. That can give an aura of farce to even the stuff you can't really question yourself, but will have doubts about.
Nevertheless, i find it still compelling (and agree with) the larger picture, but i do have a bit of a doomer personality.

I think if you're going to go with the emotional, gut reaction, i'd prefer a more abstract approach though, like Koyaanisqatsi.
Which still retained a socio-political message, while being almost entirely (almost, because of the title itself) wordless.

The fusion of documentaristic narration, with the machine gun fire pace, can be a jarring contradiction.
Also a bit ironic, since he denounces a tendency for oversimplification in HyperNormalisation.

But again, still very fascinating and engaging, so i'll finish it for sure.

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« Reply #18490 on: February 20, 2021, 05:40:12 AM »
Kinda disappointed with WandaVision ep7.

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It's just going down the predictable path of having a super powered bad guy being responsible for everything. I liked the idea that Wanda was responsible and was essentially the antagonist to vision's protagonist. I shouldn't be surprised, but it's putting me back to just not being that interested in this phase of the MCU
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« Reply #18491 on: February 20, 2021, 06:20:11 AM »
This is coming together as some of Curtis' finest work.

It combines elements of Century of the Self, The Mayfair Affair and Hypernormalisation and fills in the gaps left in those documentaries either because events hadn't happened yet or it was a side story.
Still as always you need to know a thing or two about the historical events he's talking about. He's not going to explain exactly what the Watergate scandal is or what happened in depth during the Cultural revolution (that would take up an entire documentary).
But he is going to use those events to tell his story and perspective. Now I wonder if he does this on purpose (so you look up these not all so well known events yourself) and people get a better understanding of how history has shaped the world.

As far as this one goes, he has hit the nail on the head of how the system runs the west after politicians gave up their power to bureaucrats, bankers and technocrats because collective force could no longer compete with power in the age of individualism.
I wonder when he himself realized this is what was happening as most people weren't aware of this until it was right in their faces during the pandemic.
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« Reply #18492 on: February 20, 2021, 08:11:06 AM »
Kinda disappointed with WandaVision ep7.

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It's just going down the predictable path of having a super powered bad guy being responsible for everything. I liked the idea that Wanda was responsible and was essentially the antagonist to vision's protagonist. I shouldn't be surprised, but it's putting me back to just not being that interested in this phase of the MCU
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It was never going to set wanda up as a villain.
I posted earlier that I thought it was going to be riffing on pleasant hill - that it was a holodeck style detention facility they were keeping wanda under arrest in, except she'd subverted it and taken control, but it being her own reality bubble that someone else hijacked for their own purposes works too.
The only really lame thing is how they rushed through monica rambeau captain marvels origin story and are going to have her blasting shit up with her new powers with zero training or explanation next episode, but at least we can reference nextwave

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« Reply #18493 on: February 20, 2021, 08:41:47 AM »
This is coming together as some of Curtis' finest work.

It combines elements of Century of the Self, The Mayfair Affair and Hypernormalisation and fills in the gaps left in those documentaries either because events hadn't happened yet or it was a side story.
Still as always you need to know a thing or two about the historical events he's talking about. He's not going to explain exactly what the Watergate scandal is or what happened in depth during the Cultural revolution (that would take up an entire documentary).
But he is going to use those events to tell his story and perspective. Now I wonder if he does this on purpose (so you look up these not all so well known events yourself) and people get a better understanding of how history has shaped the world.

As far as this one goes, he has hit the nail on the head of how the system runs the west after politicians gave up their power to bureaucrats, bankers and technocrats because collective force could no longer compete with power in the age of individualism.
I wonder when he himself realized this is what was happening as most people weren't aware of this until it was right in their faces during the pandemic.
The criticism (which i noticed it quite common of his work, so i'm not really the only one who noticed this) isn't that he doesn't explain what major events are, infact, that's about 50% of what he does in the run time.
The criticism moved is how he sometimes uses intriguing thematic connections, as questionable connections of (often direct) cause and effect, zooming past as to how that would be, and taking it for granted, when it really isn't.

I understand he can't stop building up every strand of the web in complete detail, as this is a movie, not a 3000 pages research paper, but it does sometimes leave you with a raised eyebrow.

On the one hand it's a stylistic choice that gives the work its compelling pace and energy, on the other hand, it's something that when abused can get you in dumbass Zeitgeist territory.

Doesn't help that he can get a bit lurid with his material (this more in HyperN than CGYOOMH so far), which further declares a will to manipulate.
Now don't get me wrong, every documentary is this essentially (every piece of art, too, i would argue), but i feel it's a play that breaks its spell when it cease being invisible, and i think he sometimes overplays his hand, in this aspect.

But again i don't want to sound too critical, since i usually agree with the general points made, more or less, especially about the big picture, and am enjoying the ride there.

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« Reply #18494 on: February 20, 2021, 11:27:21 AM »
WandaVision episode 7 seems like it tripped over itself to push things forward but left a lot of the characters stuck. Like literally stuck at a stop sign or in the throes of exhaustion. Meanwhile it reveals two characters who are a little too inside baseball for me to care about.
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« Reply #18495 on: February 20, 2021, 11:36:25 AM »
Yeah didn't care for ep7 as much as 5 and 6.

Really cool seeing Wiccan in the MCU though. :) 🏳️‍🌈

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« Reply #18496 on: February 20, 2021, 07:18:52 PM »
Finished the last 2 episodes of Curtis' doc  :whew

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In short

- By replacing human consciousness, ideology and stories with algorithms, data and science because the world was deemed to be too complicated for people to understand, It has no meaning. The machines can only learn from patterns not create a vision for the future and in the age of the individual there is no longer collective power to change society. The world is in a frozen state. Nothing changes.

- Putin believes in nothing and has no plan or vision, as a hail mary he turned to the nationalism he once rejected not because he believes in it but because it protects him. While his power at home fades, he has managed to keep that power because of western conspiracies that put him at the center of world events. But now that myth is starting to fade so he's facing protests again.

- Trump's election shocked the liberals. They couldn't believe that he won and turned to conspiracy theories about manipulation and Russia so it made sense to them. The same intelligence people that they once hated for lying about WMD's are now heroes, the same institutions they regarded as corrupt were now their allies in the fight against Trump. Trump did little to stop the corruption and to explain that his fans came up with their own conspiracy, that Trump is held back and stopped by the deep state and other forces.

- China has resorted to a controlled society because they don't want to live up to how and why they build their new power and wealth. At the essence of the new China is no ideology. China may in fact be a decaying power. Growth is less than what the official figures show, there is deep rooted corruption and the population is rapidly aging.

The pandemic hit right at the moment the systems and societies are exhausted and comes from outside the power structure (military/financial or otherwise). It has laid bare the inequalities in society but because it is not part of that system the system can't do anything about it or predict it.

Curtis predicts three possible outcomes:
1. The world becomes like China, individualism vanishes and is replaced by a society controlled by systems of social credit, if people do not fit into this system they are to be reprogrammed as is also happening in China in the concentration camps.
2. The benign liberalism of the past returns with politicians like Joe Biden once again ruling over the masses on behalf of the elites
3. A new future emerges because the underlying science about how people can be manipulated by social media or otherwise is false and human beings are far stronger than previously thought. People will once again take their destiny into their own hands and shape the world.

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« Reply #18497 on: February 22, 2021, 03:11:15 AM »
Wandavision ep7 was alright. I think all the easter eggs and teasing and fan theories are gonna make it a letdown in the end if MCU doesn't do at least one crazy big deal thing from the comics. Ie.

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Something like
-Quicksilver is revealed as actually Fox Quicksilver, mention mutants/x-men,
-Mephisto/Nightmare appearance
-kids DED
-Shattering the multiverse
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If at least one of those don't happen, gonna be disappointed for sure. I feel it's like 50/50 chance of one of those happening. MCU generally plays it pretty safe, but sometimes they do comic-book like things, so who knows.

Also I didn't realize it was 9eps and thought next week was the finale. 9 is kinda a weird number for a show. Normally they're even number of eps.

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« Reply #18498 on: February 22, 2021, 06:40:49 AM »
Wandavision ep7 was alright. I think all the easter eggs and teasing and fan theories are gonna make it a letdown in the end if MCU doesn't do at least one crazy big deal thing from the comics. Ie.

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Something like
-Quicksilver is revealed as actually Fox Quicksilver, mention mutants/x-men,
-Mephisto/Nightmare appearance
-kids DED
-Shattering the multiverse
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If at least one of those don't happen, gonna be disappointed for sure. I feel it's like 50/50 chance of one of those happening. MCU generally plays it pretty safe, but sometimes they do comic-book like things, so who knows.

Also I didn't realize it was 9eps and thought next week was the finale. 9 is kinda a weird number for a show. Normally they're even number of eps.

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Those kids are 'dead' for sure at the end of this, even if only to leave those roles open for recasting a CW type show with 20 somethings playing high school aged students.

Its also pretty likely I'd say that next episode is going to have a big bond villain style plan reveal by agnes about what exactly she's been doing and why, and the why I'd also say is pretty likely involving at least mentioning a marvel supernatural being she owes her powers to or is trying to summon or whatever. Whatever her plan actually is, it seems likely she's pretty much successfully achieved it, because why else do the reveal?

Of those, Nightmare fits the theme of the show better in subverting wandas perfect dream life into ending up widowed and childless when reality is reasserted, so if it actually is going to try to introduce a bigger bad the audience at large have never heard of, I'd lean that way. Especially given his name and shtick is pretty easy to exposit, and someone bringing dream logic to the waking world would be an obvious thing they'd want.

The multiverse shit I'm pretty sure already happened in Endgame when they fucked around with time travel and made multiple changes that should affect the future as a result, there just hasn't been any fallout from that yet because theres been no MCU since then.
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« Reply #18499 on: February 22, 2021, 07:30:01 AM »
Kinda disappointed with WandaVision ep7.

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It's just going down the predictable path of having a super powered bad guy being responsible for everything. I liked the idea that Wanda was responsible and was essentially the antagonist to vision's protagonist. I shouldn't be surprised, but it's putting me back to just not being that interested in this phase of the MCU
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It's hard to tell if they're going this route now, but in the comics, Wanda has snapped before and has been the villain, so it's still possible.
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Wandavision ep7 was alright. I think all the easter eggs and teasing and fan theories are gonna make it a letdown in the end if MCU doesn't do at least one crazy big deal thing from the comics. Ie.

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Something like
-Quicksilver is revealed as actually Fox Quicksilver, mention mutants/x-men,
-Mephisto/Nightmare appearance
-kids DED
-Shattering the multiverse
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One thing I was thinking up until the end of the last episode is that "Quicksilver" was actually Mephisto and the whole multiverse thing with this character was just a red herring.  It's still possible that this is the case and that they're fucking with people in regards to Evan Peters' character, but Evans Peters can't be playing Mephisto if Agnes was controlling him. 
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« Reply #18500 on: February 22, 2021, 03:48:06 PM »
My review of Wandavision

Ep1: 7/10. They nailed the sitcom stuff, except for the writing, which was weak
Ep2: 8/10. A little more entertaining, but problems with the laugh track distracted from the fun.
Ep3: 4/10 Weak episode.
Ep4: 2/10. Oh this is some generic Marvel crap. Yawn. And we dont need a movie theater aspect ratio you fucks we're at home. Also, if youre going to cast the chick from two broke girls, DON'T HIDE HER BEST ASSETS.
Ep5: 6/10. It was fine.
Ep6:  Havent seen yet.

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« Reply #18501 on: February 23, 2021, 09:38:30 PM »
The folk behind Gomorrah have a new mob series out - ZeroZeroZero. Somehow they've managed to come up with a bunch of characters who are even more unlikable than the ones in Gomorrah which is quite an achievement. It's a slow burn but once it gets going it's very good.

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« Reply #18503 on: February 24, 2021, 06:47:06 PM »
The folk behind Gomorrah have a new mob series out - ZeroZeroZero. Somehow they've managed to come up with a bunch of characters who are even more unlikable than the ones in Gomorrah which is quite an achievement. It's a slow burn but once it gets going it's very good.
A trailer was enough to put me off of Gomorrah (the TV show).

To take something like Saviano's book and Garrone's film, and turn it into another "cool gangster flick" shit was really dumb.
Literally that Wow Cool Robot meme.
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Finished Curtis' Can't Get You Out Of My Head.
Ultimately i enjoyed it quite a bit, despite my criticism (which i still strand by), possibly more than HyperNormalisation.
I wish it spent a bit more time on the contemporary subjects of big tech companies controlling people's destiny, and i was surprised by the complete (unless i missed it?) absence of Snowden's NSA whistle blowing (and Assange's wikileaks to a much lesser degree), i feel like that was also a big moment for conspiracy theories taking hold of normal people's imaginations.

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« Reply #18504 on: February 24, 2021, 07:48:39 PM »
Frasier reboot would def have him as an Alex Jones type or at least Hannity/Tucker type and it would get cancelled due to backlash within 4-5 eps.

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« Reply #18505 on: February 24, 2021, 08:29:30 PM »
Frasier reboot would def have him as an Alex Jones type or at least Hannity/Tucker type and it would get cancelled due to backlash within 4-5 eps.
Roseanne was doing mad numbers before she went off on social media no?

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« Reply #18506 on: February 24, 2021, 08:38:01 PM »
Yes. But Kelsey Grammar is a real hardcore Trump right wing crazy dude and there's no way that isn't his character on the show in 2021  and people are gonna :camby that shit in a hurry

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« Reply #18507 on: February 24, 2021, 08:43:45 PM »
You really think they're going to change Frasier Crane after roughly 35 years from a high class liberal snob into a Trumptard?

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« Reply #18508 on: February 24, 2021, 08:49:59 PM »
Cheers reboot where they are all in a care home, please.  Have a very special COVID episode. 
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« Reply #18509 on: February 24, 2021, 08:58:30 PM »
You really think they're going to change Frasier Crane after roughly 35 years from a high class liberal snob into a Trumptard?

Yes. Did you not live through the past 4 years or something?

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« Reply #18510 on: February 24, 2021, 09:15:20 PM »
I wish
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« Reply #18511 on: February 24, 2021, 09:35:18 PM »

A trailer was enough to put me off of Gomorrah (the TV show).

To take something like Saviano's book and Garrone's film, and turn it into another "cool gangster flick" shit was really dumb.


I don't know what trailer you saw but they definitely didn't turn it into another "cool gangster flick."

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« Reply #18512 on: February 24, 2021, 10:23:30 PM »

A trailer was enough to put me off of Gomorrah (the TV show).

To take something like Saviano's book and Garrone's film, and turn it into another "cool gangster flick" shit was really dumb.


I don't know what trailer you saw but they definitely didn't turn it into another "cool gangster flick."
A couple of them back when they announced it.
It seemed to have lost the dry detachment the movie maintained, which intentionally deprived the gangster world in it of any excitement.
Seemed more like your standard crime melodramatic struggles for power (which is not inherently bad, but i don't care for another show trying to be Sopranos or whatever).  :yeshrug

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« Reply #18513 on: February 25, 2021, 01:11:27 AM »
From the seven or eight episodes I've seen, Gomorrah does come across as Italian premium TV doing a Sopranos/Breaking Bad crime saga without any of the humor or levity. Which is definitely the antithesis of the movie but it's a very good "one of those" which isn't necessarily that easy to pull off(see: Sons of Anarchy).

Zero Zero Zero was probably my favorite show from last year(Better Call Saul was the only one I can think of that I liked as much) but I went into that without any expectations. It's basically like a Sicario/Traffic series with a really well done flashback gimmick in every episode and with Mogwai going all in on the soundtrack(similar to what Explosions in the Sky did on Friday Night Lights.) Plus you don't feel the characters really have plot armor like in a lot of big TV shows.

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« Reply #18514 on: February 25, 2021, 09:57:30 AM »
Deadline: ĎAvatar: The Last Airbenderí Franchise To Expand With Launch Of Nickelodeonís Avatar Studios, Animated Theatrical Film In The Works.
https://deadline.com/2021/02/avatar-the-last-airbender-franchise-expansion-launch-nickelodeons-avatar-studios-animated-theatrical-film-1234699594/

After getting booted off the Netflix show, because the streamer apparently wanted, among other things, an older Katara and younger Sokka, I'm really happy Mike and Brian now have their own goddamn studio with assumedly full creative control over the franchise. :hyper

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« Reply #18515 on: February 26, 2021, 10:10:00 PM »
WandaVision episode 8:

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-So unless we're getting swerved, Evan Peters wasn't playing X-Men Quicksilver and was just "Fake Quicksilver" rigged up and controlled by Agatha.  No multiverse yet.  Kind of disappointed because I started expecting this to be the case, but was hoping he'd end up being Mephisto in disguise.

-Infinite stone flashback!  It was kind of hard to tell what was happening, but when Wanda interacted with it, was there a shadow of a woman there?  It kind of looked like someone in costume.

-White Vision was kinda cool- there's a way to bring him back, although if it stays that way, the character is going to be pretty boring since that version of him was devoid of emotion.
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« Reply #18516 on: February 26, 2021, 11:01:14 PM »
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It was basically Marvel Porn: The Episode.

The shadow in the exploded Mind Stone looked like comics Scarlet Witch, and there was already a commercial for Nexus, implying the concept exists in the MCU. Basically Nexus individuals are the same across the multiverse. And Agatha at the end seemed to talk this way too. The Loki show will apparently deal with this too.

Vision's mind from Wanda's mini reality will take over white-Vision's body, basically bringing back real Vision. Maybe. Not sure how this show will lead into Strange at this point...
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« Reply #18517 on: February 27, 2021, 02:51:05 AM »
WandaVision continues to play it super safe
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« Reply #18518 on: February 27, 2021, 03:12:37 AM »
Friend recommended ďhow I met your mother,Ē and Iím ambivalent except NPH is a flawless god in any role, and Colby Smulders is a gem.

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« Reply #18519 on: February 27, 2021, 03:22:31 AM »
WandaVision continues to play it super safe

Yup, unless the final ep does something interesting, gonna be zzz

Last two eps were weak.

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« Reply #18520 on: February 27, 2021, 03:48:46 AM »
Deadline: ĎAvatar: The Last Airbenderí Franchise To Expand With Launch Of Nickelodeonís Avatar Studios, Animated Theatrical Film In The Works.
https://deadline.com/2021/02/avatar-the-last-airbender-franchise-expansion-launch-nickelodeons-avatar-studios-animated-theatrical-film-1234699594/

After getting booted off the Netflix show, because the streamer apparently wanted, among other things, an older Katara and younger Sokka, I'm really happy Mike and Brian now have their own goddamn studio with assumedly full creative control over the franchise. :hyper

Eagerly awaiting for more stuff from the likes of Studio Mir.

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« Reply #18521 on: February 27, 2021, 03:50:29 AM »
For the final Wandavision ep I'm dropping my expectations to rock hard zero.

I'm not even expecting the multiverse anymore, probably won't even appear until midway through Dr. Strange 2.

They're still grounding the MCU really hard.

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« Reply #18522 on: February 27, 2021, 09:58:03 AM »
Now imagine how much better that boring recapping-information-you-already-know-if-you-have-watched-the-films-these-characters-were-in episode of Wandavision would have been if it had stayed leaning into the 'tell everything in TV format' initial premise, and had been done as a clipshow episode or whatever with 'cast interviews'.

...it also pretty much guarantees next episode is mostly going to just be people shooting different coloured energy beams at each other  :-\

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« Reply #18523 on: February 27, 2021, 01:42:32 PM »
For the final Wandavision ep I'm dropping my expectations to rock hard zero.

I'm not even expecting the multiverse anymore, probably won't even appear until midway through Dr. Strange 2.

The multiverse thing is funny.  They've faked us out (seemingly) twice with this show (so far) and Spider-Man Far From Home, lol.

My expectation is the show ends with them teasing something with the multiverse and setting up the next Dr. Strange movie.  If not?  Everyone's going to forget about it and move onto the Falcon and Bucky show right after.
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« Reply #18524 on: February 27, 2021, 02:51:51 PM »
For the final Wandavision ep I'm dropping my expectations to rock hard zero.

I'm not even expecting the multiverse anymore, probably won't even appear until midway through Dr. Strange 2.

The multiverse thing is funny.  They've faked us out (seemingly) twice with this show (so far) and Spider-Man Far From Home, lol.

My expectation is the show ends with them teasing something with the multiverse and setting up the next Dr. Strange movie.  If not?  Everyone's going to forget about it and move onto the Falcon and Bucky show right after.
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Nothing of any note will happen because they don't want to confuse people who only watch the films. It's the same situation we were in with the previous Marvel TV shows.

Dr Strange won't even mention or acknowledge any of the events.
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« Reply #18525 on: February 27, 2021, 05:15:51 PM »
My expectations for the Dr Strange 2 tie-in is literally a post-credit scene where

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Scarlet Witch goes "oh no I am a magic witch not good at controlling my powers, I should go to magic training" and someone is like "I know just who to call..."
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There is your Dr. Strange 2 Multiverse of Madness tie-in.

Wooohooo

Like I said I'm keeping expectations for anything crazy/interesting really low, I expect next ep just gonna be

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Vision vs. Vision and in the end they merge with Vision body + Wandavision Vision personality.

Wanda learns more about the scarlet witch/chaos magic/hex powers and with the help of Monica she gets it under control and fixes everything.

The end.
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I actually really enjoyed the sitcom spoof stuff with some mysteries and thought that was the highlight of the series. These last few eps are a bit too normal and not enough Kat Dennings and Randall Park.

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« Reply #18526 on: February 27, 2021, 06:39:21 PM »
Ya, I would have prefered keeping the sitcom facade for the last two episodes.  I think a final battle where it's morphing in an out of all era sitcoms would have been cool.   The Malcolm In The Middle episode was the best one.  I did really like the explosion scene and her and Vision sitting on the bed - those hit home for me and made her trama feel a lot more earned. 
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« Reply #18527 on: March 05, 2021, 09:17:16 AM »
WandaVision's last episode is up.

Haven't watched it yet, but I did see that there's no "BIG,HUGE CAMEO FROM A MAJOR MCU MOVIE CHARACTER!!!!!" that some sites were claiming.

And that
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Zero ties to anything multiverse-related, but one of the post-credits scenes does set up something for Dr. Strange:

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Wanda is shown in an astral form studying magic.
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And the other may be setting up for another upcoming series:

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Monica is contacted by a Skrull.
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« Reply #18528 on: March 05, 2021, 11:34:00 AM »
I enjoyed it - it wrapped everything up maybe too much in such a short time and I wish the last two episodes were more tied to sitcom stuff though.  The ending was actually pretty emotional though.  I think most people who will be let down by this will either be people who expected too many internet theories to be true or people who liked how unique the first episodes were over other Marvel stuff.  Before this, I can't say I wanted a Wanda and Vision story but this really filled out their characters and in a way I think would have been hard to do with a 2-hour movie.   I really hope that is how Marvel Disney+ shows are going forward, as a way of telling stories that wouldn't work as movies, to fill out existing characters, and to be more experimental with the formula. 

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Scarlet Witch costume is amazing and I loved that they brought back creepy Wanda from Ultron.  Vision defeating himself with logic was really fun and Wanda casting the hexes was a great way to do character development during a fight.
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« Reply #18529 on: March 05, 2021, 05:05:34 PM »


HBO Max Originals kinda killin' it.

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« Reply #18530 on: March 05, 2021, 10:16:42 PM »
WandaVision turned out ok. I'm pretty glad they didn't cheap out and make everyone's dreams come true.


...OR DID THEY STINGER UH OH WOW DID YOU HEAR THAT MAYBE I DUNNO

Kat Dennings had one line lol
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« Reply #18531 on: March 06, 2021, 12:17:26 AM »
Wandavision ending was fine.

The series as a whole was basically the same as if we had gotten a theatrical 2 hour Scarlett Witch origin story movie. This would have been that movie basically.

I'm fine with no interesting twists since I had low expectations for anything multiverse or cool from the comics at this point in the show, however they left a HUGE FUCKING ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM

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So like fake Pietro was some loser dude being mind controlled by Agnes.

...ok, so how did he have SPEED POWERS.

Like the kids had powers because they weren't real. This is a real person, there's nothing shown that Agnes or Wanda would've been able to give him the ability to move at the speed of sound or something.

Even if they weren't going to have him by Quicksilver from the fox series, they could have at least had something in the ending or post-credit that tried to explain the hex magic gave him powers like Monica or something.

Because him just vanishing out of the show without explaining that is some real fucking bullshit.
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The costume is nice. Hope Dr. Strange 2 has some cool weird shit and throws some curveballs into the MCU with MULTIVERSE OF MADNESS.

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« Reply #18532 on: March 06, 2021, 12:20:48 AM »


HBO Max Originals kinda killin' it.

I thought this was the Upgrade TV show. Even IMDB'd whether this is secretly related to that.

It's not :(

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« Reply #18533 on: March 06, 2021, 12:31:48 AM »
Also given that Feige keeps fucking trolling everyone. Multiverse in Spider-Man 2, Pietro in this.

I'm calling it that all the Spider-Man 3 rumor stuff was started by Fiege to troll the fuck out of fans and there's not going to be any multi-verse shit in that. No spider-verse like people expect. Fiege will keep laughing his ass off while fans are disappointed.

I'm not even sure if there will be a multiverse in multiverse of madness. Could be super troll title.

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« Reply #18534 on: March 06, 2021, 12:49:43 AM »
Can you imagine being in the room when Fiege and the director were explaining Evan Peter's role to him

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Fiege: So that's when everyone will go "woah, quicksilver from Fox is crossing over in the MCU!"
Peters: And...is he? /looks hopeful
Fiege: LOL, NO. Sorry kid, maybe we'll cast you as something MCU someday
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« Reply #18535 on: March 06, 2021, 12:58:34 AM »
Also one thing that's pretty bad about the Wandavision finale is the lack of consequences.

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Like Wanda may have subconciously made Westview, but she became very aware of it at some point and continued to enslave and torture thousands of people.

Then she ends it and goes up to Monica and Monica smiles and goes "BAE, WOULD'VE TORTURED THEM ALL TOO TO SEE MY MOM AGAIN TOO"

and Wanda leaves and it's all ok!
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« Reply #18536 on: March 06, 2021, 09:17:10 AM »
yeah, ultimately wandavision just ended as standard mcu fare, right down to shooting huge lasers into the sky, and spending a third of its runtime on sitcom pastiche was just padding they didn't do anything particularly interesting with.

Think I'm going to be fine skipping falcon and winter soldier.

Also one thing that's pretty bad about the Wandavision finale is the lack of consequences.

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Like Wanda may have subconciously made Westview, but she became very aware of it at some point and continued to enslave and torture thousands of people.

Then she ends it and goes up to Monica and Monica smiles and goes "BAE, WOULD'VE TORTURED THEM ALL TOO TO SEE MY MOM AGAIN TOO"

and Wanda leaves and it's all ok!
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its all kinds of messed up in terms of consequences; wanda just leaves scott free, they make the sword guy out to be some huge bad guy and take him away in cuffs for... ??? doing his job trying to take out a super powered threat? Agatha gets a - by definition - cruel and unusual punishment for... trying to break wanda out of her delusion to steal her powers? vision is back from the dead and has all of his memories restored and he just... fucks off?
just mess, the whole thing.
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« Reply #18537 on: March 06, 2021, 10:23:52 AM »
I think most people who will be let down by this will either be people who expected too many internet theories to be true or people who liked how unique the first episodes were over other Marvel stuff.

I definitely think it's very much this, but to be fair, Evan Peters' casting was like a massive troll on Marvel's part.  :lol

I'm fine with no interesting twists since I had low expectations for anything multiverse or cool from the comics at this point in the show, however they left a HUGE FUCKING ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM

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So like fake Pietro was some loser dude being mind controlled by Agnes.

...ok, so how did he have SPEED POWERS.


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Even if they weren't going to have him by Quicksilver from the fox series, they could have at least had something in the ending or post-credit that tried to explain the hex magic gave him powers like Monica or something.

.....

Because him just vanishing out of the show without explaining that is some real fucking bullshit.
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I think this was explained by
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Monica removing the necklace around his neck- it seemed to imply that this turned Ralph into "Pietro" and the source of his power/Agatha's control.  It just wasn't done very well and he kinda disappears from the show after this.
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I'm not even sure if there will be a multiverse in multiverse of madness. Could be super troll title.

I think this is where we'll see an actual multiverse element introduced- just don't think this should mean "OMG X-MEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!" as fansites are speculating.  It's supposed to have more of a horror-tinged element to it, so maybe it means twisted, evil versions of characters popping up.  WandaVision's small connection to this movie is clearly
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Wanda in her astral form studying the Darkhold at the end.  Interesting that it was referenced by name- I can't remember if it looks the same as the one in Agents Of SHIELD but I doubt there's a connection.  My assumption is she will pop in that movie using the Darkhold to try to get her kids back, which leads to more bad shit happening.
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Also one thing that's pretty bad about the Wandavision finale is the lack of consequences.

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Like Wanda may have subconciously made Westview, but she became very aware of it at some point and continued to enslave and torture thousands of people.

Then she ends it and goes up to Monica and Monica smiles and goes "BAE, WOULD'VE TORTURED THEM ALL TOO TO SEE MY MOM AGAIN TOO"

and Wanda leaves and it's all ok!
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We don't know that-
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she did just kind of up and fly away at the end and it's not like anyone could have stopped her.  The aftermath could be covered in a later show or movie.  Could also end up being swept under the wrong with a character saying "Agent Rambeau's report indicated that Agatha was responsible for the entire Westview incident" or some nonsense.
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« Reply #18538 on: March 06, 2021, 10:29:25 AM »
yeah, ultimately wandavision just ended as standard mcu fare, right down to shooting huge lasers into the sky, and spending a third of its runtime on sitcom pastiche was just padding they didn't do anything particularly interesting with.

Think I'm going to be fine skipping falcon and winter soldier.

I enjoyed it enough overall that I'll keep checking out these Marvel shows.  Good Friday night 'popcorn' fun.
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its all kinds of messed up in terms of consequences; wanda just leaves scott free, they make the sword guy out to be some huge bad guy and take him away in cuffs for... ??? doing his job trying to take out a super powered threat? Agatha gets a - by definition - cruel and unusual punishment for... trying to break wanda out of her delusion to steal her powers? vision is back from the dead and has all of his memories restored and he just... fucks off?
just mess, the whole thing.
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The Sword guy started sending missiles right into a town with a civilian population who didn't do anything.  He was also trying to "weaponize" the Vision and possibly Wanda.

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He is revealed to have lied to Monica, FBI agent Jimmy Woo, and astrophysicist Darcy Lewis earlier about Wanda and has been working on a secret project dealing with Vision. The project culminates with Vision being reactivated by exposure to Wanda's powers from a drone. His plan to eliminate Wanda with Vision, however, fails when Wanda's hex Vision restores Visionís memories. When the hex is down, Darcy stops Hayward, and he is arrested for tampering with evidence and removed from S.W.O.R.D.

White Vision flying off like that was kinda "uhhhhh....?", yeah- but with all theses shows and movies all connected, it just means we'll see what happens later on.  If this is following the comics, he'll be the cold, emotionless Vision.
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We never did get The Grim Reaper in the show despite the subtle hint he was there in the Bewitched-style intro.
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« Reply #18539 on: March 06, 2021, 01:05:53 PM »
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The Sword guy started sending missiles right into a town with a civilian population who didn't do anything.  He was also trying to "weaponize" the Vision and possibly Wanda.

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He is revealed to have lied to Monica, FBI agent Jimmy Woo, and astrophysicist Darcy Lewis earlier about Wanda and has been working on a secret project dealing with Vision. The project culminates with Vision being reactivated by exposure to Wanda's powers from a drone. His plan to eliminate Wanda with Vision, however, fails when Wanda's hex Vision restores Visionís memories. When the hex is down, Darcy stops Hayward, and he is arrested for tampering with evidence and removed from S.W.O.R.D.

White Vision flying off like that was kinda "uhhhhh....?", yeah- but with all theses shows and movies all connected, it just means we'll see what happens later on.  If this is following the comics, he'll be the cold, emotionless Vision.
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this is a scenario where  literally half the planet vanished for 5 years because of super hero fuckery, the sokavia accords or whatever were signed to try and stop super powered fuckery after a whole city got nuked, and wandas a former terrorist who exploded a towerblock full of people, and has been torturing a town of civilians for however many weeks before they showed up.

like... arrested for 'lying to named characters from previous movies' and 'tampering with evidence'? :lol
He's the fucking head of a black ops anti-supe unit, of course he's building specific anti-supe weapons and not telling the FBI, civilian consultants or subordinates who've been MIA for half a decade about everything.

It literally only makes sense from the perspective wanda is definitely A Good Guy and anythung they do is therefore justified in the long run - and the show sure as shit didn't do much to reinforce that. Look at the teams they sent after the Winter Soldier to take him out in civilian areas, and he's sure as shit less of a threat to the populace at large than wanda was shown to be.

Just absolute mess. Made even more messy with blind-loyalty-monica going off to join the skrulls at the end :lol
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