Author Topic: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads (Read 1053415 times)

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #1560 on:** July 12, 2012, 10:32:58 PM »

New Neil Gaiman Sandman project with JH Williams III.

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Cormacaroni · « **Reply #1561 on:** July 12, 2012, 10:37:42 PM »

Hard to get too excited but I'll check it out. I think Sandman lost its mojo well before the end, and the various special projects so far have been largely fairly masturbatory. Ooh it's another tale-that-is-actually-ALL TALES, another trickster, another mopey hero

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #1562 on:** July 12, 2012, 10:45:35 PM »

Gaimanesque is my go-to adjective for poorly planned faffy lit shit. It's deep! Because stories.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #1563 on:** July 12, 2012, 10:49:55 PM »

I think Sandman was genuinely interesting and ambitious for a good while. It just became less so after 50 or 60 issues, not sure exactly when since i haven't got that far in my re-read (my wife is actually giving me shit of late because the 4th Absolute edition is still in plastic...

)

Anyone read Punk Rock Jesus? It was fun.

Also reading The Lovely Horrible Stuff by Eddie Campbell, which despite being a new release, is 50% off on comixology right now - 100pgs or so for $5 I think. It's great stuff - very dry observational material, like always

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #1564 on:** July 12, 2012, 11:21:29 PM »

Quote from: Dr. Feelbad on July 12, 2012, 10:05:25 PM

Reading reviews around the net, and everyone else seems to be raving over WD 100, so I guess I'm just out of step with modern comics or something. I think he's just a mediocre writer who got lucky, overexplains in his dialogue, and can't foreshadow for shit (if you didn't see it coming you weren't paying attention). I've gotten the feeling that he really gets off on excessive brutality a few times before, but it really sank in this time. He just uses over the top shock moment violence to cover his medium talent. I've had enough.

People seem to rave over Crossed, too, as if that isn't just an extended exercise in seeing how much an audience is willing to take. What the fuck is wrong with comics nerds nowadays? Are they all closet sociopaths?

I thought the Michonne stuff was worse, really, but I see your point. He obviously IS a mediocre writer but that doesn't mean that the Walking Dead isn't a good comic. It's a great concept, with legs, and it's been very skillfully told by the artist at least. They are pretty much trapped into having to use ever-more extreme violence to keep the readers on the edges of their seats though, given that the alternatives in terms of story progression are actually trying to explain the whole zombie outbreak and try to resolve it somehow, which takes it into Lost/Hollywood 3 act territory.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #1565 on:** July 12, 2012, 11:31:34 PM »

etiolate · « **Reply #1566 on:** July 12, 2012, 11:53:23 PM »

I was going to post that.

So yeah

Awesome news.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #1567 on:** July 13, 2012, 12:10:13 AM »

they really need to call it 'Enter Sandman'

Eric P · « **Reply #1568 on:** July 13, 2012, 09:04:57 AM »

Quote from: Dr. Feelbad on July 12, 2012, 10:05:25 PM

Reading reviews around the net, and everyone else seems to be raving over WD 100, so I guess I'm just out of step with modern comics or something.

we old

read some Bronze age stuff with me!

edit: godDAMN

http://www.tcj.com/1800cyanideline/

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Taking a page straight from the Geoff Johns playbook—“do exactly what everyone expects you to do, but so blatantly that even the most jaded reader can’t help but shrug their shoulders and appreciate the fact that you’re at least self-aware”—this, ladies and gentleman, is the comic book that the world was looking for. The fact that it’s a piece of shit–and The Walking Dead is fucking shit, 100% pure octane trash–isn’t an accident. Kirkman’s never-ending zombie opera is the closest you’re going to get to the kind of megapopular success that is prized in comics above all else; it’s a television show that your dad thinks about more than he does your mother’s feelings and a comic book that nine-year-olds are going to learn about life from. In this issue, we watch along with Rick (the main character of the series) as yet another character in the series gets brutally murdered, because that’s what life is all about in The Walking Dead, man. It’s about how you can capitalize off of people’s worst possible instincts and the lowest common denominator, and then proceed to collect money, hand over fist, for the rest of your natural life.

Eric P · « **Reply #1569 on:** July 13, 2012, 09:15:37 AM »

Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on July 12, 2012, 10:32:58 PM

New Neil Gaiman Sandman project with JH Williams III.

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ugh

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #1570 on:** July 13, 2012, 09:54:16 AM »

Quote from: Mamacint on June 29, 2012, 11:13:26 AM

If you liked Infinity Gauntlet, you should check out the run in Silver Surfer that led into into. Great stuff.

Quote from: Eric P on June 29, 2012, 11:27:20 AM

Secret Wars doesn't (but it never really did. It was basically Marvel's Crisis on Infinite Earths)
Phoenix / Dark Phoenix kind of does but I don't like Cosmic X-Men stuff personally.
Mutant Massacre / Fall of the Mutants are the two hightpoints in Marvel Crossovers of the 80s, I think

Reading this list is like watching the Singularity spin up into action

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_events_of_the_Marvel_Universe#1970s

Excuse the late reply, but thanks peeps.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #1571 on:** July 13, 2012, 11:42:02 AM »

ffs, IF YOU LIKED A JIM STARLIN COMIC read some awesome old Jim Starlin comics like Warlock or Dreadstar and forget all the crossover bullshit Shaka

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #1572 on:** July 13, 2012, 11:55:21 AM »

Quote from: Eric P on July 13, 2012, 09:04:57 AM

Quote from: Dr. Feelbad on July 12, 2012, 10:05:25 PM
Reading reviews around the net, and everyone else seems to be raving over WD 100, so I guess I'm just out of step with modern comics or something.

we old

read some Bronze age stuff with me!

will totally do it! i'd love to revisit some of the comics i read as a kid to see if they hold up. i've been on a pre-code horror kick for a while, but i'm kinda getting burned out on it, haha.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #1573 on:** July 13, 2012, 12:11:48 PM »

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OHMIGOD IS THAT CAT THE TOOTH FAIRY unfortunately no

Eric P · « **Reply #1574 on:** July 13, 2012, 12:16:14 PM »

Quote from: Dr. Feelbad on July 13, 2012, 11:55:21 AM

Quote from: Eric P on July 13, 2012, 09:04:57 AM
Quote from: Dr. Feelbad on July 12, 2012, 10:05:25 PM
Reading reviews around the net, and everyone else seems to be raving over WD 100, so I guess I'm just out of step with modern comics or something.

we old

read some Bronze age stuff with me!

will totally do it! i'd love to revisit some of the comics i read as a kid to see if they hold up. i've been on a pre-code horror kick for a while, but i'm kinda getting burned out on it, haha.

i'm on 70s and 80s batman. i'm going to move onto 80s superman and then spider-man

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #1575 on:** July 13, 2012, 02:45:44 PM »

Walking Dead #100 spoilers. Sounds like awful snuff.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #1576 on:** July 13, 2012, 03:56:24 PM »

It is, like two pages of it done in detail. Problem is, he's already done this shit like four or five times before, so it's lost what little shock impact this type of thing had left, and this time it's especially meaningless as far as "this TOTALLY changes the status quo, man!" bullshit events go. You know a comic is shitty when you're immediately picking it apart and writing a better plotline in your head as you read it.

Barry Egan · « **Reply #1577 on:** July 16, 2012, 12:33:45 PM »

I was leafing through my sandman collection the other day and read this intro to season of mists:

Quote from: Harlan Ellison

Perfection. Excellence. What a passionate lover. But once having tasted the lips of excellence, once having given oneself to its perfection, how dreary and burdensome and filled with anomie are the remainder of ones waking hours trapped in the shackled lock-step of the merely ordinary, the barely acceptable, the just okay and not a stroke better...So the paradigm becomes all the Salieri shadows unable to touch the Mozart reality, all the respectably-talented but not awesomely-endowed Antonio's fulminating with frustration at the occasional Amadeus...Excellence is its on master, owes no allegiance, bows its head to no regimen. It exists pure and whole like the silver face of the moon. Untouchable, unreadable, exquisite. But frustrating because it reminds us of how much mediocrity we put up with, just to get through the week.

The point being: Neil Gaiman's work on The Sandman

This goes on for a few pages. I really like Sandman but I had to wonder if this wasn't a joke between two colleagues. I kind of hope so.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #1578 on:** July 16, 2012, 12:54:59 PM »

been reading ultimate spider-man, I like how the only person that LOOKS 15 is Peter Parker, all the girls look 19-21...which makes the Gwen/Eddie scene hilarious.

Tasty · « **Reply #1579 on:** July 16, 2012, 01:29:06 PM »

Posted?

Get excite!

Also I ordered one of those Court of Owls masks from Comic-con on eBay. Because I'm that guy.

Eric P · « **Reply #1580 on:** July 16, 2012, 02:33:37 PM »

http://www.amazon.com/Marshal-Law-Deluxe-Pat-Mills/dp/1401238556/ref=sr_1_23?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1342463567&sr=1-23&keywords=dc+comics

does Marshal Law hold up? I haven't read it in forever

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #1581 on:** July 16, 2012, 03:25:04 PM »

I read it for the first time earlier this year. It's ... okay. I kinda think you had to be there. Hell, I'm increasingly of the opinion you kinda had to be there for Watchmen, even.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #1582 on:** July 16, 2012, 08:46:51 PM »

Yeah, the deconstruction thing has been done so relentlessly ever since that it would lose all its force reading it now. It's still uncommonly vicious and skillful satire though. The only comic i've ever gone to a signing for

Tasty · « **Reply #1583 on:** July 16, 2012, 09:07:42 PM »

I don't know if I should keep reading The Walking Dead if 100 is that bad.

Eric P · « **Reply #1584 on:** July 17, 2012, 04:15:05 AM »

Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on July 16, 2012, 03:25:04 PM

I read it for the first time earlier this year. It's ... okay. I kinda think you had to be there. Hell, I'm increasingly of the opinion you kinda had to be there for Watchmen, even.

Watchmen is still one of my favorite comics. I own two Absolute editions; Watchmen and New Frontier.

I wish there was a prestige HC edition of From Hell which is probably my favorite Moore work

Eric P · « **Reply #1585 on:** July 19, 2012, 06:45:25 AM »

grabbed Demon Knights trade.

It's like reading a comic book made up a power metal album covers. Absolutely delirious and filled with lots of huge "this sounds cool so let's add this in" moments. Loved it.

Also grabbed Batman Inc deluxe edition. Only read the first chapter, but it was kind of cute to see the dude from the Bat Man manga make an appearance

Verdigris Murder · « **Reply #1586 on:** July 19, 2012, 08:50:15 AM »

Quote from: Eric P on July 16, 2012, 02:33:37 PM

http://www.amazon.com/Marshal-Law-Deluxe-Pat-Mills/dp/1401238556/ref=sr_1_23?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1342463567&sr=1-23&keywords=dc+comics

does Marshal Law hold up? I haven't read it in forever

I think the first book does, not sure about the rest. Oh and when he fights the cenobites........

O'Neills art is pretty sweet too. All those angles and pointy things.

Eric P · « **Reply #1587 on:** July 19, 2012, 09:00:41 AM »

tried to read age of apocalypse

it's horrible

bork · « **Reply #1588 on:** July 19, 2012, 10:27:59 AM »

Quote from: Eric P on July 19, 2012, 09:00:41 AM

tried to read age of apocalypse

it's horrible

The new Age Of Apocalypse (which spun out of X-Force) is much more interesting.

Diunx · « **Reply #1589 on:** July 22, 2012, 10:42:42 AM »

Quote from: Andrex on July 16, 2012, 01:29:06 PM

Posted?

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Get excite!

The Joker is giving me the finger :'(

Also I ordered one of those Court of Owls masks from Comic-con on eBay. Because I'm that guy.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #1590 on:** July 22, 2012, 10:49:04 AM »

AoA rocks, you guyz r teh comic snobz

Momo · « **Reply #1591 on:** July 25, 2012, 03:15:18 PM »

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Rob Liefeld has revealed that he will end his run on superhero comics in 2013.

Grant Morrison made a similar announcement earlier in the week.

Veteran Image Comics founder Liefeld tweeted that he "will be close behind".

"As for DC work, I've done my job, stopped the bleeding, revived the patient... enjoying my collaborations..." he continued.

"Lots of creator owned dreams yet to realise..."

The writer and artist will conclude his work on DC Comics' Deathstroke, Hawkman and Grifter next year, adding that that was "a ways off".

Morrison has revealed that he will end his current work for DC with Action Comics #16 and Batman Incorporated #12.

A string of top creators have recently announced their intention to end their work-for-hire superhero projects to focus on creator-owned comics.

"The current corporate comics conditions are an absolute bear, on both sides, for both Big Two," tweeted Liefeld. "Not a political statement #fact."

"Gotta say, for me personally, working at DC this past year has been ridiculously enjoyable and fun," he added. "Treats talent right."

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/comics/news/a395118/rob-liefeld-abandons-superheroes-in-2013.html

Thread title update pls.

Diunx · « **Reply #1592 on:** July 25, 2012, 03:31:43 PM »

Hope Morrison does another monthly for Vertigo.

bork · « **Reply #1593 on:** July 25, 2012, 04:13:10 PM »

Quote from: Momo on July 25, 2012, 03:15:18 PM

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Rob Liefeld has revealed that he will end his run on superhero comics in 2013.

Grant Morrison made a similar announcement earlier in the week.

Veteran Image Comics founder Liefeld tweeted that he "will be close behind".

"As for DC work, I've done my job, stopped the bleeding, revived the patient... enjoying my collaborations..." he continued.

"Lots of creator owned dreams yet to realise..."

The writer and artist will conclude his work on DC Comics' Deathstroke, Hawkman and Grifter next year, adding that that was "a ways off".

Morrison has revealed that he will end his current work for DC with Action Comics #16 and Batman Incorporated #12.

A string of top creators have recently announced their intention to end their work-for-hire superhero projects to focus on creator-owned comics.

"The current corporate comics conditions are an absolute bear, on both sides, for both Big Two," tweeted Liefeld. "Not a political statement #fact."

"Gotta say, for me personally, working at DC this past year has been ridiculously enjoyable and fun," he added. "Treats talent right."
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/comics/news/a395118/rob-liefeld-abandons-superheroes-in-2013.html

Thread title update pls.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #1594 on:** July 25, 2012, 04:37:20 PM »

"The BORE thread of Comics and how Rob Liefeld will no longer draw [superheroes]."

Tasty · « **Reply #1595 on:** July 25, 2012, 04:43:25 PM »

Morrison noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

parallax · « **Reply #1596 on:** July 25, 2012, 04:44:40 PM »

his indie work is gonna be amazing. like a mass increase in mc escher designed weaponry.

bork · « **Reply #1597 on:** July 25, 2012, 05:36:28 PM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on July 25, 2012, 04:37:20 PM

"The BORE thread of Comics and how Rob Liefeld will no longer draw [superheroes]."

Better. Hopefully that turns into "Rob Liefeld will no longer draw or write anything!"

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #1598 on:** July 25, 2012, 07:15:04 PM »

Quote from: MrAngryFace on July 22, 2012, 10:49:04 AM

AoA rocks, you guyz r teh comic snobz

AoA was so good, I quit comics after it was over. Nothing could ever top it.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #1599 on:** July 25, 2012, 08:54:51 PM »

Well, I have all 3 parts of The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: Century, now.

Time to pay the piper.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #1600 on:** July 25, 2012, 09:28:33 PM »

Amazon bonanza yesterday: Darwyn Cooke's 'The Score', Hellboy Library vol.5, Flex Mentallo hardcover, Barks' Uncle Scrooge.

Diunx · « **Reply #1601 on:** July 25, 2012, 10:13:59 PM »

Whaaaa part 3 is out? HYPEEEEEEEE!

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #1602 on:** July 25, 2012, 10:58:08 PM »

NOT THAT I CARE, but the idea that Rob Liefeld will be drawing anything OTHER than superheroes for his creator-owned projects is ridic. We have decades of shite Rob Liefeld creator-owned projects for evidence of this.

That said, the relaunched Glory and Prophet are two of my favorite things every month.

Eric P · « **Reply #1603 on:** July 26, 2012, 07:25:07 AM »

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #1604 on:** July 26, 2012, 08:50:34 AM »

Yeah, DC is just straight up trolling Moore now.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #1605 on:** July 26, 2012, 11:09:51 AM »

(missing image)

Century ended up a was a lot better than I thought it would be from 1910 and 1969, but it's still not really...good. "Hot mess" is the most polite way to describe it. I liked it more than Black Dossier, at least.

chronovore · « **Reply #1606 on:** July 26, 2012, 11:13:36 AM »

I'm so torn on League of Extraordinary Gents anymore. I wanted to like the most recent stuff, but it din't really resonate.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #1607 on:** July 26, 2012, 11:31:02 AM »

YOU USED THE POSITIVE ANYMORE ARRRRGH I HATE YOU ARRRRGH WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS TO THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE

Barry Egan · « **Reply #1608 on:** July 26, 2012, 01:16:04 PM »

chronovore · « **Reply #1609 on:** July 27, 2012, 02:00:25 AM »

Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on July 26, 2012, 11:31:02 AM

YOU USED THE POSITIVE ANYMORE ARRRRGH I HATE YOU ARRRRGH WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS TO THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE

I meant "ana amore," a neologism I've just reflexively coined.

尚かつ、その様な事は全然いけるでしょうか？

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #1610 on:** July 27, 2012, 02:41:29 AM »

Chrono is to grammar what Rob Liefeld is to anatomy.

Tasty · « **Reply #1611 on:** July 28, 2012, 01:49:20 AM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on July 27, 2012, 02:41:29 AM

Chrono is to grammar what Rob Liefeld is to anatomy.

chronovore · « **Reply #1612 on:** July 28, 2012, 11:35:37 AM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on July 27, 2012, 02:41:29 AM

Chrono is to grammar what Rob Liefeld is to anatomy.

$:-\$

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #1613 on:** July 29, 2012, 03:48:45 PM »

I read Synder's The Black Mirror (Batman arc). It was okay, but it falls firmly into that Year One/The Dark Knight Returns genre of "serious" Batman books that don't really do much for me. The "villain," in particular, was rather bland. I get that's the point, but... I don't dig the Se7en style grimdark Batman stories. BEAUTIFUL art, though.

I also read the first 5 issues of Hickman's The Manhattan Projects. SUPER impressed. I was expecting some sort of wink-wink Atomic Robo series of historical jokeism from the description, but instead it's something much darker about America's relationship with science and the pursuit of knowledge at all costs.

Tasty · « **Reply #1614 on:** July 29, 2012, 05:20:56 PM »

So I finally caught up on TWD and I don't see what was so bad about issue 100. Was expecting a lot worse.

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I expected them to get to the other town or whatever and find Negan or whoever and his dudes killing and raping the hell out of everyone, from the way some people here *caugh caugh Eel cough* talked about it.

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recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #1615 on:** July 29, 2012, 05:43:09 PM »

I am trying to decide whether "positive anymore" makes logical sense or not, and thinking about it is actually kind of making my head hurt.

But I think it does if you interpret it as "If there is any more time in the future, such will be time in which I am so torn on League of Extraordinary Gentlemen". It's a conditional statement on whether there is a future or not.

chronovore · « **Reply #1616 on:** July 30, 2012, 01:55:58 AM »

Now you made my head hurt.

Eric P · « **Reply #1617 on:** July 30, 2012, 06:46:42 AM »

Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on July 29, 2012, 03:48:45 PM

I read Synder's The Black Mirror (Batman arc). It was okay, but it falls firmly into that Year One/The Dark Knight Returns genre of "serious" Batman books that don't really do much for me. The "villain," in particular, was rather bland. I get that's the point, but... I don't dig the Se7en style grimdark Batman stories. BEAUTIFUL art, though.

I love it more for Tim as Batman and the relationship he builds with Gordon moreso than I do for the Grimdark stuff.

Finally finished the Batman Incorporated HC last night. Wow. I think it's my favorite of the Morrison Bats stuff even if I didn't like the characterization of Oracle. I had never read anything with Stephanie Brown / Spoiler before so now I want to track down some more of that; which reminds me I have to read the Cassandra Cain stuff.

naff · « **Reply #1618 on:** August 05, 2012, 10:55:26 PM »

Reading batman - no man's land arc and godland from comixology. Never really been into comics (lack of exposure not a conscious decision) but I've been really enjoying these series. Comixology makes reading on Sgs3 awesome with the panel by panel view.

Thought this .gif was pretty good

Picked up some of the Batman new 52 by Snyder as well. Good stuff

Tasty · « **Reply #1619 on:** August 05, 2012, 11:13:26 PM »

Yeah, Batman's been pretty great. As for Comixology, it's awesome, it got an update recently so now page transitions are animated and at the end of comics it has "Next in story arc," makes following scattered/crossover series like No Man's Land and Knightfall much easier. Also on my N7 the UI is scaled more appropriately now instead of being super tiny.

Speaking of, finished up Knightfall last night, but I unfortunately didn't get Knightquest or KnightsEnd with it... really wish DC would put TPBs on Comixology. $:-\$

Gonna go through A Death in the Family and the Red Hood saga next, bought them all a while ago but now with my N7 I'm blazing through my comic backlog.

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Author Topic: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads (Read 1053415 times)