Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads

[chronovore]

So far, four issues in, I'm not super impressed with Morrison's Batman & Son storyline.

[ManaByte]

Howard the Duck and Dum Dum Dugan fight Nazi Zombies.

[Joe Molotov]

Howard the Duck needs to be in The Avengers 2.

[Verdigris Murder]

Sleeper actually really reminds me of Marshall Law, it's got the same OTT'ness of the aforementioned, and would make a seriously ace film.

I tried reading some xmen, but fucking hell, shots of retardness fired into my quivering brain.

[ManaByte]

So if word gets out at what Marvel is doing with Astonishing X-Men #50-51 expect Fox News to do a stupid story on it. Northstar's gay marriage is in #51. #50 comes out this week and I guess that's the proposal issue:

EDIT: The Diamond solicitation says Marvel has secured mainstream news coverage on TV and print for the X-Marriage.

[Cormacaroni]

why do you care about these things? serious Q

OF COURSE they'll get word of it; some Marvel intern has typed up the press release already, that some FOX intern can turn into a print-ready story in a matter of minutes. It's an easy win for both sides. Doesn't mean anybody needs to pay attention to it. Unless it's actually an insightful portrayal of gay marriage, which given the set-up, seems pretty f'in unlikely...

[bork]

Oh boy!  A marriage sub-storyline involving a minor character and his even-more minor partner in the most minor of all the X-books that is generally ignored since the focus is on Avengers Vs. X-Men, which this book has been no part of!

[chronovore]

I picked up "GRANT MORRISON - PAUL DINI - RETURN OF RA'S AL GHUL" a couple weeks ago.

So far, I'm unclear on what GM actually wrote. Paul Dini's stuff is clearly marked; maybe 4 chapters? The rest of it is by other authors, none of whom are Grant Morrison. I'm feeling ripped off.

[Cormacaroni]

the crossover was part of Morrison's big storyline but it's the least-interesting part of that whole run, and I don't think he had much if anything to do with the non-Batman issues.

[Eric P]

I got the Court of the Owls book and it really just hammered home how much of a joke the whole "reboot" is.  In the first issue of a new timeline and there's already been 4 Robins and a Batcave full of junk?  Ignoring that, it's pretty good.  I like Scott Snyder's take on the Bat Fam well enough.  I like his Bruce, but I think I liked Black Mirror a bit more.

[Momo]

Are there any other verses as fleshed out as Marvel and DC? I mean with a bunch of heroes and stories all in the same universe but not of DC/Vertigo/Marvel?Darkhorse?

[ManaByte]

I got the Court of the Owls book and it really just hammered home how much of a joke the whole "reboot" is.  In the first issue of a new timeline and there's already been 4 Robins and a Batcave full of junk?  Ignoring that, it's pretty good.  I like Scott Snyder's take on the Bat Fam well enough.  I like his Bruce, but I think I liked Black Mirror a bit more.

The reboot didn't really affect the Batman or GL continuity.

[Cormacaroni]

Are there any other verses as fleshed out as Marvel and DC? I mean with a bunch of heroes and stories all in the same universe but not of DC/Vertigo/Marvel?Darkhorse?

Not really. Dark Horse has the awesome Hellboy/B.P.R.D stuff which is shared universe but only those books (BPRD is Torchwood to Hellboy's Dr Who). Kirkman's Image stuff crosses over a fair bit with the original Image stuff like Savage Dragon but it's not a major thing. On the other hand, they have a lot more freedom to make it all a bit more logical, with consequences. That said, the majority of Image books are their own thing (you won't be seeing Chew in your Manhattan Projects anytime soon).

Other smaller imprints like Valiant or Crossgen have at various times tried to get shared universes off the ground, as it were, but here's the thing: They don't have Jack Kirby.

[Momo]

I'd really like a third shared universe to take off sometime in the future. Marvel has bored me for years and DC is starting to poopslide a bit. Surely there is a young guy that has what it takes to be the next Kirby/Stan Lee

[Cormacaroni]

wash out your mouth

[Eric P]

I haven't liked Marvel Universe since Secret War.  I liked Planet Hulk and WWH, but looking over this list, that's about it as far as the "Universe" goes.  I like individual titles, but dislike the overall company storyline.  The DC stuff pre-Infinite Crisis is more interesting to me.  I loved 52 for example.  I thought that was great.  Not really a fan of The Green Lantern stuff though.  It just seems a bit tacky.

[bork]

I got the Court of the Owls book and it really just hammered home how much of a joke the whole "reboot" is.  In the first issue of a new timeline and there's already been 4 Robins and a Batcave full of junk?

The New 52 is a "reboot," however it keeps a lot of the continuity from the old DC universe, albeit in a more-condensed form.  In the Batman and (even more so) the Green Lantern books in particular, almost everything is pretty much the same and really isn't even a reboot at all.  In contrast a lot of the Superman stuff is a total reboot (Supergirl and Superboy especially), Green Lantern is totally new AFAIK (they made him much younger) and they've also now completely integrated the Wildstorm characters into the DCU.

The storyline explanation for all this is from the Flashpoint series.  The main DCU was completely altered and is a fusion of the old, new, and the Wildstorm universes.  I thought the point was to simplify things and make it easy for new readers to jump on.     But that said, they did do this with certain series.

[Diunx]

Invisibles Omnibus!

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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1401234593/ref=pd_1ctyhuc__sbs_02_02

OH MY GOD!!!

I have the first seven books in one paper back and is huge! I can't even imagine the size of this thing.

[Cormacaroni]

OH MY GOD!!!

...Diunx owns something

[Joe Molotov]

Started reading JLA/Avengers, mainly for the lulz.



AVENGERS ASSEMBLE!

Edit: I think it's still technically in DC continuity too, since they referenced it during Geoff John's Green Lantern run. 

[Smooth Groove]

Is this the story that has Superman KOing Thor? 

[Joe Molotov]

While making a Spinal Tap reference:



Although to be fair to both sides:

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[ManaByte]

90's Valiant was a shared universe. Don't know if the new relaunch is or not because I'm not reading them.

[chronovore]

Finished "MORRISON - DINI: Return of Ra's Al Ghul" -- really sadly average bat-book, with apparently ONE of its chapters written by Morrison. I honestly feel ripped off.

[Eric P]

This just showed up at my job.
fuck. yes.

[Momo]

Sinestro has a rape face.
Wonder Woman is doing the hulk hogan crowd call

perfect.

[Eric P]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2147928/Is-Batman-gay-Major-DC-Comics-character-come-closet.html

DC Comics plans to reintroduce a character as gay in a future issue, it has been revealed.

Co-publisher Dan DiDio previously said that the company would not change the sexual orientation of an existing superhero and would bring in a new one altogether.

But at Kapow Comic Convention in London on Sunday, he revealed that an existing character - who was previously assumed to be straight - will become ‘one of our most prominent gay characters’, according to comic blog BleedingCool.com.

soooo who hasn't been rebooted yet?

[parallax]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2147928/Is-Batman-gay-Major-DC-Comics-character-come-closet.html

DC Comics plans to reintroduce a character as gay in a future issue, it has been revealed.

Co-publisher Dan DiDio previously said that the company would not change the sexual orientation of an existing superhero and would bring in a new one altogether.

But at Kapow Comic Convention in London on Sunday, he revealed that an existing character - who was previously assumed to be straight - will become ‘one of our most prominent gay characters’, according to comic blog BleedingCool.com.

soooo who hasn't been rebooted yet?

im thinking its shazam.

[Joe Molotov]

I thought Batman was their most prominent gay character

Maybe it'll be the left-wing avenger Green Arrow. Black Canary was a total beard.

[cool breeze]

Is Shazam still a young boy in the reboot?

Aquaman would be the obvious choice.  or Kyle Rayner.

[Eric P]

fucking dying here.

that face.

[Joe Molotov]

Aquaman is married and Kyle is dating Sinestro's daughter, although I think they may have broken up. I don't remember John Stewart ever being married or dating anyone though, maybe he's on the DL.



Edit: n/m, he was married but his wife died

[parallax]

Is Shazam still a young boy in the reboot?

Aquaman would be the obvious choice.  or Kyle Rayner.

hes gonna be an adult.

[cool breeze]

Aquaman is married and Kyle is dating Sinestro's daughter, although I think they may have broken up. I don't remember John Stewart ever being married or dating anyone though, maybe he's on the DL.

...with Kilowog 

[Momo]

Is Shazam still a young boy in the reboot?

Aquaman would be the obvious choice.  or Kyle Rayner.

hes gonna be an adult.

Still gonna be weird

[parallax]

no doubt about that. but ill still give it a fare shake.

[ManaByte]

Martian Manhunter

[Cormacaroni]

Is Shazam still a young boy in the reboot?

Aquaman would be the obvious choice.  or Kyle Rayner.

hes gonna be an adult.

Still gonna be weird

I'd buy a comic about a young hetero boy who transforms magically into a gay muscleman wearing a sash and cape

[ManaByte]

[Joe Molotov]

Rated T+ for TEH GHEY

[parallax]

Everytime I see that pic, all I see is that iceman has activated his jackass ability. And the other mutants are preparing for a post wedding brawl

And that scott is a jackass

[Eric P]

Is Shazam still a young boy in the reboot?

Aquaman would be the obvious choice.  or Kyle Rayner.

hes gonna be an adult.

Still gonna be weird

I'd buy a comic about a young hetero boy who transforms magically into a gay muscleman wearing a sash and cape

the comic equivalent of that guy who is only gay when he's been drinking?

[Cormacaroni]

i think the angst factor could be pretty high. Or maybe we could have 'Dial H for Homo', with characters changing into different but equally appalling gay stereotypes every time (scripted by Garth Ennis of course)

[Momo]

Is Shazam still a young boy in the reboot?

Aquaman would be the obvious choice.  or Kyle Rayner.

hes gonna be an adult.

Still gonna be weird

I'd buy a comic about a young hetero boy who transforms magically into a gay muscleman wearing a sash and cape

Full Metal Alchemist

Captain Louis Armstrong

[Eric P]

Secret Society of Super-Villains Vol 2 is really something special.

The second volume contains more than just SSSV titles branching out a bit and showcasing the "heroes" (Captain Comet, the most shoehorned in character I've seen since Sentry) but also including uncolored inks and uninked pencil drafts for two issues after the series was cancelled.  It doesn't appear to wrap up the arc of the story line, but it's neat to see where it was going to go.

It's filled with a kind of 70s craziness where you'll have hyperreal artwork of surreal plot points.  Like Chrono (70s time based villain) opens a time portal to grab a comet that landed on prehistoric earth.  This causes dinosaurs to invade New York.  I mean Gotham.  This also causes a group of space adventurers to get transported back to prehistoric times and fight a tyrannosaur that touches the comet which turns it into a dino-man.  In a blue leotard.  It's fucking crazy and makes no sense.

[Joe Molotov]

If you were a kid in 1977, how could you not buy that?

[ManaByte]

Alan Scott is the character DC is relaunching gay.

[Cormacaroni]

Is his daughter gay too then

[parallax]

Alan Scott is the character DC is relaunching gay.

isnt he in earth 2?

Is his daughter gay too then

his son is.

[Cormacaroni]

they have an Earth 2 book, cunningly titled 'Earth 2'

[Joe Molotov]

Powergirl needs to go gay and have cross-dimensional twincest with Supergirl.

[Cormacaroni]

Shoulda been Dave Cockrum-drawn 70's Cosmic Boy, who was a gay icon anyway. That whole era of LSH was just Studio 57 in Space

[parallax]

Shoulda been Dave Cockrum-drawn 70's Cosmic Boy, who was a gay icon anyway. That whole era of LSH was just Studio 57 in Space

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they could bring back power boy and make him gay easily.

[ManaByte]

Alan Scott is the character DC is relaunching gay.

isnt he in earth 2?

That's why they're doing it. He's being re-introduced in the Earth 2 book.

[bork]

DC already (re?)introduced an openly-gay character in their Teen Titans book, too.   

Why does this even matter? 

[parallax]

DC already (re?)introduced an openly-gay character in their Teen Titans book, too.   

Why does this even matter?

because this will be a pre-existing character. like gay beast that existed in exiles. its an effort to ramp sales like bi racial spiderman was.

[Joe Molotov]

I read Batman: Court of Owls, it was good.

Waiting on the rest of my NEW 52! trades to get here from Amazon.

[bork]

DC already (re?)introduced an openly-gay character in their Teen Titans book, too.   

Why does this even matter?

because this will be a pre-existing character. like gay beast that existed in exiles. its an effort to ramp sales like bi racial spiderman was.

I just don't see "The gay Green Lantern of Earth-2" ramping up sales.

And that goes for what Marvel is doing too.  Who the hell cares about "minor character Northstar marries minor character boyfriend that appeared in three issues over the last five years"?

[parallax]

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I just don't see "The gay Green Lantern of Earth-2" ramping up sales.

And that goes for what Marvel is doing too.  Who the hell cares about "minor character Northstar marries minor character boyfriend that appeared in three issues over the last five years"?

in the end, it never really does. when cap was killed a few years back, it was all over the news, and the issue was selling pretty good, but in the end, no one gave a shit, and he was brought back.

[bork]

Was Captain America even dead for a year?  I remember he was time-displaced or something equally as stupid as what happened when Batman "died."

Then then killed Bucky-Cap...only they didn't and he's the Winter Soldier again.