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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #4080 on: September 29, 2016, 06:50:37 PM »
Fray was good fun even if I'm not really a Buffy person (saw some of the early stuff back in the day but didn't follow it).  Lotta good funny Whedon dialogues.  I do love my good Whedon dialogues and whimsical characters like the demon buddy partner.  Also enjoyed the ending.

Ocean by Ellis was pretty darn solid.  I think Ellis writes really good badass characters, and for some reason all his great characters are non-white which is kinda nice.  The guy here, the spanish woman in Trees, and the black bourne-type guy in Injection are all awesome badass characters with tight smart writing.  As a light sci-fi I found it enjoyable and it wrapped up fairly nicely.  It also had good art.  All of this stuff is why I liked it more than Orbiter.  I saw some people talking down Ellis and Ocean for being too low-brow with sex and food jokes, but I feel it lightens up the mood from an otherwise serious story.  It's sort of like a more mature Whedon.  The only kinda lame thing was the Doors/Windows/Borg thing.

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« Reply #4082 on: October 06, 2016, 02:56:22 AM »

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« Reply #4083 on: October 06, 2016, 11:17:46 AM »
Champions: This was a fun read.  I'm not caught up yet on All-New Avengers so I don't know if this takes place after Civil War II or during it.  The youngest Avengers members, Ms. Marvel, Spider-Man (Miles), and Nova all quit and form their own team, fed-up with the older folks not doing more to help out (stuff like repairing structures after fights) and recruit The Hulk (Cho) and Viv Vision (Vision's "daughter").  Looks like the younger Cyclops will join too.

Spider-Man: Not sure if ASM #19 was the last part of the Dead No More prequel storyline or not.  This issue focused on Aunt May's husband, Jay, who is J. Jonah Jameson's father- he was sick and had two options- conventional treatment or new tech from New U, the company with a miracle medical cure for anything (that can also bring people back to life) which is controlled by The Jackal.  For whatever reason, Jay will only listen to Peter's opinion and opts for conventional treatment.  Peter is not sure why, but every time he encounters someone with New U treatment, his spider-sense goes crazy.  So what happens? 
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Well, the regular means doesn't work and Jay dies.  Meanwhile, Peter decides while doing Spider-Man shit to use the New U treatment but it's too late.
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Good job, Pete!  :doge  There's also a backup story where the Jackal approaches The Kingpin and attempts to sway him to his side by bringing back his deceased wife, but Kingpin is icecold gangsta bitch and snaps her neck because he doesn't want to be controlled by the Jackal.

Death of X: "The mini-series that details what happened to Cyclops!  Eight months in the making!"  Aaaaaaand....it's nothing.  As in, nothing we don't already know- the Inhumans' terrigen mist kills mutants.  Yup.  This is not a big reveal.  :zzz

Spider-Man 2099: "Civil War 2099" concludes with the future big head of SHIELD being a skrull who thinks he's an elderly-immortal J. Jonah Jameson who thinks Spidey 2099 is a time-traveling Peter Parker.
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #4084 on: October 06, 2016, 12:31:33 PM »
How do they explain terrigen mist killing mutants? haven't mutants been exposed to terrigen before?
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« Reply #4085 on: October 08, 2016, 04:31:54 PM »
Finished my Trade volumes #1 read of comics I got from the last 2 years of Image modern created-owned comics.  My thoughts:

East of West - Pretty solid Hickman apocalyptic tale.  At this point I've read enough comics that nothing feels original and everything story-wise and character-wise and even scene-wise feels like I've already seen it somewhere (4 horseman, X-men Apocalypse; Death as vengeance anti-hero, Preacher; Post-apocalyptic sci-fi western, even bits of Hickman's other running Manhatten Projects, etc...), but it's pretty enjoyable pulp.  Will continue reading this.

I think I already talked about how Warren Ellis' Injection was the shit, but I'll make another note here in case you haven't read it. 

Jupiter's Circle - Apparently this is a prequel by Mark Millar to a different Millar series.  Was ok.

Kaptara - Kind of generic sci-fi lost on another planet thing, but I do like the He-Man-esque feel of it a bit.  Still not bothering past this volume.

Low - Rick Remender's underwater Mad Max.  Gorgeous art, decently entertaining, will continue.

Nailbiter - Horror slasher film monsters True Detective mystery tale.  Entertaining.  Will continue.

No Mercy - Oh no, kids on an international trip are stuck in a dangerous area and will get killed off left & right battle royale-ish.  Zzz

Nowhere Men - Suuuuuper similar to The Manhatten Projects about scientists who went wrong, but also about mutant astronauts X-men style.  Was ok, but don't think I'll read more.

Ody-c by Matt Fraction about sci-fi Norse gods or something, idk the art and panel layouts were too psychedelic out that I thought it was miserable to read and bailed halfway.

Outcast was ok, I can see why they'd make a tv show out of it.  Very slow paced and a bit boring.  No interest in continuing.

Phonogram Kara got me into this.  Wasn't hugely sold by Volume 1 since it felt fairly elitist UK britpop blogging in philosophical form, but love volume #2 which is just a fun comic about people having a good time at a club and how music effects them.  Individual the club stories are fairly shallow, but together as a single piece the interwoven story is fantastic and the tracklist is great.  One of the best comics I've read.  Now I can't stop listening to Pull Shapes.

Satellite Sam - Noir television industry murder mystery.  Kinda interesting, kind of boring.  Probably not going to continue.

Shutter - Weird randomly super-violent w/furries action adventure?  Sorta intriguing.  Might check out volume 2+

The Fade Out - Another Noir television/movie industry murder mystery.  Fairly entertaining like most Brubaker comics.  Beyond that didn't really grab me, but might check out vol.2

The Wicked & The Divine - Enjoyed the first volume quite a bit since I like gods and mythology.  Only bummer is they got rid of the most interesting character in volume 1.  But definitely will check out 2+

Trees - Another neat Ellis' story.  Don't like it anywhere near as much as Injection, it's also depressingly bleak view of people in a world post alien tree landings.  But will grab volume 2 next image sale.

Velvet - More entertaining Brubaker action mystery thrillers.  Fairly popcorn but fun.  Surprised they haven't made a movie out of it yet.  Will check out volume 2.

Virgil - "A Queersploitation Revenge Tale" the back cover says.  Yup, that's exactly what it is.  Fairly entertaining for that kind of genre.  The setting in Jamaica was interesting.

Wolf - I had to check if this was written by the guy who wrote Fables.  It isn't, but it's the exact same concept but darker.  I like that kind of concept (personification of fable/myth characters).  Will grab volume 2 next sale.

So yeah, some good stuff in there.  Next time there's an image sale will pick up the next few volumes of a good chunk of them.  Still need to read Saga and more of Fables, but since they're both lengthy been saving until I finished all the volume 1s.  Looking forward to the next image humble bundle sale of new volume 1s to check out.

So it's IMAGE COMICS SALE TIME.

I'm picking up vol.2 of some of the above that I enjoyed.  A bunch of them aren't on sale this time though boooo (may end up paying full $12 for Phonogram Vol.3 at some point). 

Are there any volume 1s I should check out this sale?, I know Rax sorta recommended Monstress, so I'm thinking about grabbing Vol.1 of that.  Anything else that's not on the above list that I should grab because it's excellent?

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things on sale I'm grabbing: Deadly Class vol.4, East of West vol.2-4, Wicked & The Divine Vol.2-3
things not on sale this time that I want:  The Fade Out vol.2+, Velvet vol.2+, Wolf vol.2, Trees Vol.2, Phonogram Vol.3, Shutter Vol.2+
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #4086 on: October 08, 2016, 04:38:43 PM »
Descender, Paper Girls, Plutona, I Hate Fairyland, and We Stand Guard are all good pick-ups.
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« Reply #4087 on: October 08, 2016, 04:42:25 PM »
Cool, I have Descender (my list is missing the A-D stuff I read earlier), but I'll see if those others are on sale :rock

Really not a fan of the cover artstyle of I Hate Fairyland so I'll pass.  Too Hot Topic for me.  We Stand Guard isn't on sale (too bad cause I like Vaughn a lot and I see mechs).  Will try Paper Girls and Plutona even if they look a little bit suspect in the :uguu cover department.
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« Reply #4088 on: October 08, 2016, 07:55:59 PM »
Fairyland's pretty fun, not self-serious at all.
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« Reply #4089 on: October 09, 2016, 10:34:34 AM »
How do they explain terrigen mist killing mutants? haven't mutants been exposed to terrigen before?

They still haven't said why yet.   :lol
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« Reply #4090 on: October 16, 2016, 10:52:27 AM »
I just got satisfactions that the comics that I sent to CGC to get graded back in JULY finally got reviewed. This is what happens when you go for the cheapest option  :doge

So here are my grades. Please don't judge my submissions, I've sent stuff that I liked myself, nothing super rare or SRIOUS reading material.



Punisher   #1   7/87       9.4    WHITE (First american comic I remember seeing on a shelf when I was a kid. It looked super bad-ass to me)
Punisher Kills the Marvel Universe   #1   2008 9.6    WHITE (it's hilarious)
Punisher   #1   7/16    Maleev Variant Cover 9.8    WHITE (its a pretty cool cover)
Untold Tales of Punisher Max   #5   12/12 9.6    WHITE (I met the cover artist randomly a few years ago, and bought a big version of that cover from him, and goddamn a year later, I see that its been chosen to be the cover. )
Amazing Spider-Man   #9   5/16       Lotay Variant Cover    9.6    WHITE       ""Women of Power"" variant cover. (interesting cover.)
DC Comics: Bombshells   #1   10/15   9.4    WHITE (pretty damn rad cover and super fun comic book.)

and then the signed ones, witnessed by a cgc guy, so its all legit:
Archie vs. Predator   #1   4/15    9.6    WHITE    SIGNED BY FERNANDO RUIZ (quite a conversation starter, funny stuff)
Batman: Odyssey   #2   10/10    9.4    WHITE    SIGNED BY NEAL ADAMS (batshit insane amount of dialogs, bad ass cover)
Harley Quinn   #25   4/16 Adams Variant Cover       Signature       9.8    WHITE    SIGNED BY NEAL ADAMS (neat cover)

So yeah. 4 months of waiting time tho.

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« Reply #4091 on: October 16, 2016, 11:14:53 AM »
Did you get them graded to sell them?
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #4092 on: October 17, 2016, 07:49:40 PM »
nah, to keep them. They aren't worth a lot of money.

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« Reply #4093 on: October 21, 2016, 02:56:43 AM »
http://www.openculture.com/2015/11/moebius-jodorowskys-sci-fi-masterpiece-the-incal-brought-to-life-in-a-tantalizing-animation.html

Holy mackerel. I was hoping to put this in the movie thread, but it's just a revamped version of an earlier trailer. The marrying of Moebius' art to 3D cg assets is pretty impressive as a shorthand technique. I think it could work, though I always enjoy the still shots better when work is so detailed.

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« Reply #4094 on: October 21, 2016, 10:12:48 AM »
Some studio really needs to throw a few million these guys' way so they can make the whole movie.
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #4095 on: October 22, 2016, 12:21:15 PM »
Fucking 2016. What a fucking legend you were, Mr. Dillon  :'(


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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #4096 on: October 26, 2016, 11:46:28 AM »
Detective Comics #943



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Would have more of an impact if Tim was actually, you know, dead, but still can feel the feels here.
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #4097 on: October 26, 2016, 12:47:26 PM »
Lost another Robin!?


New 52


Hey, have you read Civil War II?


IT WAS THE WATCHMEN BEHIND THE SCENES


They replaced me with Gordon in a robo-rabbit batsuit
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #4098 on: October 26, 2016, 12:51:52 PM »
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« Reply #4099 on: October 26, 2016, 12:52:45 PM »
Saw Batman Vs. Superman


Then saw Suicide Squad
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« Reply #4100 on: October 26, 2016, 02:01:26 PM »
My .PNG cut jobs
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #4101 on: October 26, 2016, 02:30:14 PM »
DC's Young Animal imprint has been pretty good so far, really bringing the weird with Shade, The Changing Girl and Doom Patrol. Haven't read Cave Carson yet, but I might pick that up sometime later, definitely looking forward to Mother Panic.
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #4102 on: October 26, 2016, 04:11:40 PM »
Read Monstress Vol.1, liked it a lot.  The art is soooooooooooooooooooooo good.  The storytelling seems like trying to do a big LoTR/GoT fantasy epic thing with a bit of lovercraftian horror eldricht gods, which I'm cool with.  Definitely looking forward to vol.2

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« Reply #4103 on: October 26, 2016, 04:24:53 PM »
I've been reading the singles for that and, yeah, it's really good. Wish the release schedule wasn't so erratic, but having the extra time definitely shows in the end product.
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« Reply #4104 on: October 26, 2016, 04:48:51 PM »
I'm not surprised at all by the release schedule.  The art is way above normal comic detail. 

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« Reply #4105 on: October 26, 2016, 04:55:45 PM »
Only comic I can think of off-hand that has anywhere close to that level of detail is Joe Benitez's Lady Mechanika, which is a pretty alright series, too.
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #4106 on: October 27, 2016, 03:41:37 AM »
Reading the first volume of Rat Queens. I like it so far.

Apparently there's some author who has just quit twitter because she was harassed incessantly about her comic. This is a novelist, who had a successful series of million-selling novels prior to taking on comics, and "never blocked anyone on Twitter until she started writing a relatively low-profile comic book series." 

Fucking fanboys, making both comics AND games hard to cheer for.

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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #4107 on: October 27, 2016, 03:48:56 AM »
If more money can have it be animated a bit better, then yes please.

Fifth Element is basically an Incal rip off anyway.

Money could really help it. What is presented is very uneven and crude, but the technique do work well at some points (locations and setting).
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« Reply #4108 on: October 27, 2016, 07:56:14 AM »
Civil War II #6: Stuff happens and yet it continues to feel like nothing has happened since Bruce Banner was killed at the beginning of the story.  I.E., Bendis.

Because this crap has been delayed so much and Marvel has continued on, we already know a big chunk of the outcome from this, from other books:
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-Champions: The younger heroes all up and left in Civil War II.  We saw that they formed their own team already in Champions #1.

-Iron Man: Looks like he's gonna die at the end of Civil War II- at the end of Infamous Iron Man #1, Doom goes to Stark's lab and is greeted by an A.I. version of Stark.  Doom babbles on that Stark "did it" and backed up his consciousness digitally.  I wonder if this means that digital Stark will inhabit Riri Williams' armor in her book.

-Guardians Of The Galaxy: Looks like this will be getting a roster change.  The Thing pops up in Infamous Iron Man as an agent of SHIELD.

-The Hulk: Bruce Banner may already be coming back.  :lol  in Uncanny Avengers #15, they get a tip-off that The Hand is resurrecting him.
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Also have to say that Captain Marvel has been one of the most unlikeable characters in a long time.  She seems to be 100% wrong and there's not much to sympathize with her side on.  I don't think anyone is writing her very well.  It's like nobody knows what to really do with the character.

My favorite part of this story, and it's covered more in Guardians Of The Galaxy (also written by Bendis), is that they killed Bruce Banner because he might have become the Hulk again -but didn't- but yet they just captured Thanos, who murdered War Machine and put She-Hulk in the hospital...and act like it's nothing.  :lol  At least Bendis covered this and had Gamora lose her shit over it.

Other books:

The Prowler #1: Ties into Dead No More, which is a GOOD Marvel storyline event.  Focuses on The Prowler being a good guy and stopping bank robberies and shit, despite the fact that he was killed and resurrected by the Jackal, and is basically his slave.  He says that the Jackal is now a "humanitarian" and this makes no sense because clearly something is up with his resurrection process and you know something shady is going on.

Death Of X #2: Still waiting for something new to happen here.  :zzz
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« Reply #4109 on: October 27, 2016, 09:56:29 AM »
Apparently there's some author who has just quit twitter because she was harassed incessantly about her comic. This is a novelist, who had a successful series of million-selling novels prior to taking on comics, and "never blocked anyone on Twitter until she started writing a relatively low-profile comic book series." 

Fucking fanboys, making both comics AND games hard to cheer for.

This really makes me sad, especially since Mockingbird was a really fun series. :-\
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #4110 on: October 27, 2016, 04:02:13 PM »
I dont feel great about Wonder Woman fighting poachers in the 75th anniversary special, I kinda really dislike WW being painted as a mother nature kinda gal.

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« Reply #4111 on: October 27, 2016, 11:44:16 PM »


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« Reply #4112 on: November 09, 2016, 11:26:41 PM »
Spider-Man: Dead No More: The Clone Conspiracy #2:  Finally hitting the payoff here.  This story is awesome and if you're a spidey fan, you'll mark the hell out.  We finally get the gist of what's going on and some long-dead characters return.

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First we see The Scarlet Spider-Kaine, back from the 'dead' (last seen in the Spider-Verse storyline), having a nightmare about being chased by zombies.  He needs to give someone we don't see medicine.

Spider-Man has infiltrated the New-U building and has been confronted by the newly-resurrected Doc Ock.  He doesn't believe that anyone he's seeing isn't a clone, but Otto tells him how he remembers being the Superior Spider-Man and running around in a robot body for months after being "dead."  The Jackal stops the fight and gives Spider-Man a tour of the facility, introducing him to a ton of formerly-deceased Spider-Man characters.  Not just villains...but people like Jean DeWolfe and Captain Stacey are there.  The only one who doesn't set off Spider-Man's spider-sense is Gwen.

And that's because this is NOT Gwen Stacey.  Or rather...it's the alternate reality Spider-Gwen in "disguise."  :o  LOLWTF?!  Spider-Gwen and the Scarlet Spider have been working in secret to stop the Jackal and New U. 

And this is because the nightmare Kaine had was him remembering what had happened on an alternate earth, where the Jackal and Peter Parker TEAMED UP to use the New U drug on everyone and created a zombie apocalypse-- anyone resurrected who doesn't take the daily pill becomes a zombie and can infect others...so they didn't want to tell Spider-Man their plan but decided to intervene for reasons not yet known.
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Crazy shit.  I love these stories that Dan Slott has been coming up with.  1000 times better than Civil War II.
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #4113 on: November 25, 2016, 05:52:17 PM »
How about that Death of X #4 everyone?  :doge

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Marvel is like fuck the Xmen, Inhumans is where its at (cuz they can be in the MCU)  :jawalrus
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« Reply #4114 on: November 25, 2016, 08:21:13 PM »
I'd say that Marvel shitting on the X-Men in general, and the shenanigans like killing the Fantastic Four book before that recent movie, are my least favorite aspects of Marvel's ascension to mainstream pop culture.

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« Reply #4115 on: November 26, 2016, 12:00:13 AM »
How about that Death of X #4 everyone?  :doge

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Marvel is like fuck the Xmen, Inhumans is where its at (cuz they can be in the MCU)  :jawalrus
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In case anyone is wondering:

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The big revelation in this book is that Cyclops died in the first issue.  He was exposed to the terrigen cloud, got sick, and died quickly afterwards.  Everything you see afterwards is Emma Frost mentally-projecting him and his "ideas" onto everyone.
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Marvel seems to have dialed it back with the Inhumans shit though.  It's no longer a movie and is gonna be a TV show, right?  But still, Inhumans blows and they are never going to replace the X-Men.  Get over Fox already, Marvel, and stop shitting on the X-Men and the Fantastic Four.  This crap is stupid.

Next up is Inhumans Vs. X-Men.  Let's see how many more mutants they decide to kill off.  :doge
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #4116 on: November 26, 2016, 12:14:12 AM »
I don't think the plot-point (the Terrigen Clouds) was stupid or not something they could've intelligently explored. But the way Cyclops went out (twice) along with other issues makes me want no further cross-overs from those IP's.

At this point, Marvel should hat-in-hand work with Fox. It's not a Sony deal where they had a successful trilogy but floundered elsewhere. X-men under Fox brought in a bunch of young fans in the 90's and still has those folks. So working with Singer and getting the young cast (since the older ones are pretty much done now and the two-three that still wanted to do the series are retiring with Logan) would be a huge boon for them in regards to MCU.

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« Reply #4117 on: November 26, 2016, 12:18:06 AM »
I'm beginning to wonder if the plan here is to slowly kill off all of the original X-Men and replace them with their younger still-time-displaced counterparts.  We've got young Jean and now young Cyclops as the only versions of themselves.  Maybe Beast is next.

Death Of X also reminded me of something.  Maybe I missed this resolution somewhere, but I remember Havok getting turned evil from the Axis storyline crap and kidnapping the Wasp.  He popped back up like nothing happened as did the Wasp.   :lol
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #4118 on: November 26, 2016, 01:37:25 PM »
He was still inverted but sometime after that he met up with Cyke again and the 2 were going to do something. I don't know what, the Bendis run just sort of ended. I feel like all of Axis was quickly frogotten as was the fact that him and Wasp have a kid out here somewhere with Kang.

I really hope the plan isn't to replace them. I really dislike the young X-men and find their inclusion so lame and pointless.
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« Reply #4119 on: November 26, 2016, 01:41:24 PM »
And to be fair I think they are repositioning the X-men with Resurection and the launch of Blue and Gold.

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« Reply #4120 on: November 26, 2016, 03:24:53 PM »
How about that Death of X #4 everyone?  :doge

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Marvel is like fuck the Xmen, Inhumans is where its at (cuz they can be in the MCU)  :jawalrus
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In case anyone is wondering:

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The big revelation in this book is that Cyclops died in the first issue.  He was exposed to the terrigen cloud, got sick, and died quickly afterwards.  Everything you see afterwards is Emma Frost mentally-projecting him and his "ideas" onto everyone.
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Marvel seems to have dialed it back with the Inhumans shit though.  It's no longer a movie and is gonna be a TV show, right?  But still, Inhumans blows and they are never going to replace the X-Men.  Get over Fox already, Marvel, and stop shitting on the X-Men and the Fantastic Four.  This crap is stupid.

Next up is Inhumans Vs. X-Men.  Let's see how many more mutants they decide to kill off.  :doge


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Once again Cyclops goes out like a chump and now add fucking terrorist to his list due to Emma.
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Apparently Fiege made mention that's its not dead and instead pushed out of phase 3 but with their kind being on Agents of Shield and now the TV Series, maybe he's just bullshitting.

Also i forgot they killed the Fantatistic Four comic series  :lol
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« Reply #4121 on: November 27, 2016, 12:36:57 PM »
These limited edition variant covers of Providence #11 are pretty dope.

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« Reply #4122 on: November 28, 2016, 04:07:50 AM »
Finally got to the controversial Spider-Man one more day arc after civil war & back in black.  Not really sure how this can even work with the retcon because it basically changes the timeline for the entire marvel universe in a lot of ways that I guess will be apparent as I read the marvel comics from this point.  Kinda a shame to see his back in black Kingpin beatdown retconned.

Having no idea what one more day was gonna be about, but having heard about it being the end to JMS Spider-Man and not really hearing anyone talk about Peter Parker arcs much after, I thought One More Day was going to be an arc where they kill off Parker and end Amazing Spiderman for good and someone else takes over as Spiderman.  Not sure if that would've been better as it felt like some stuff was never resolved.  Like now that they're retconning, are they dropping the entire Spider God Totem mystical greater will guiding Spider-Man subplot that never really resolved?  Because that felt like an interesting direction to take the character and felt like it was building up to something big, but it just gave a few enemies and the never really explained the point of the mystical spider god.

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« Reply #4123 on: November 28, 2016, 07:31:01 AM »
Finally got to the controversial Spider-Man one more day arc after civil war & back in black.  Not really sure how this can even work with the retcon because it basically changes the timeline for the entire marvel universe in a lot of ways that I guess will be apparent as I read the marvel comics from this point.  Kinda a shame to see his back in black Kingpin beatdown retconned.

Having no idea what one more day was gonna be about, but having heard about it being the end to JMS Spider-Man and not really hearing anyone talk about Peter Parker arcs much after, I thought One More Day was going to be an arc where they kill off Parker and end Amazing Spiderman for good and someone else takes over as Spiderman.  Not sure if that would've been better as it felt like some stuff was never resolved.  Like now that they're retconning, are they dropping the entire Spider God Totem mystical greater will guiding Spider-Man subplot that never really resolved?  Because that felt like an interesting direction to take the character and felt like it was building up to something big, but it just gave a few enemies and the never really explained the point of the mystical spider god.

I've been talking about Spider-Man storylines in this thread for a good while now.
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Superior Spider-Man and Spider-Verse also got a lot of attention/press.

I didn't read the majority of the JMS Spidey stuff.  Just pretty much "The Other" and that was about it.  And I also never read a big chunk Dan Slott's current run-- I came back to Spider-Man only a few years ago.  But the mystical-spider stuff definitely pops back up and Ezekial is still mentioned here or there.  As for the retcon...I don't think it really affected anything outside of the Spider-Man books.  I also think it's really fucking stupid.  Pete is still not back with MJ, although now one of alternate reality storylines where he and MJ have a daughter (who has powers) and MJ wears a suit that mimics Spider-Man's powers has its own ongoing book.

If you haven't been paying any attention to Spider-Man stories (and you're still a few years away from all this stuff), there is going to be a point where multiple Spider characters pop up.  The Superior Spider-Man, Silk (yet another retcon where there is now a female Spider-Woman who got bit at the same time as Pete, lol), Spider-Gwen (alternate reality character who pops up in the 616 universe from time to time), The Scarlet Spider (Kaine), and Miles Morales (Ultimate Spider-Man who has been moved into 616 recently) among others.

Whereas pretty much every big Marvel crossover storyline is pretty much shit, the Spider-Man events have been pretty fun.  The current "Dead No More" arc has been a blast.  I like how Slott rewards readers for sticking around long-term.

I really ought to sub to Marvel Unlimited and see what I missed from the mid-90s up through 2009 or so.  I suspect most of the 90s stuff is crap since that was Marvel's low point -both creatively and financially- and is the reason why I dropped them back then.
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« Reply #4124 on: November 28, 2016, 12:53:07 PM »
Well when you talk about Spider-Man I figure you were talking about a non-Peter Parker Spiderman :p I thought this Miles Morales guy I've heard about would take it over after Marvel killed Parker off, but yeah I was wrong about that.

Good to hear the mystic stuff is still in.

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« Reply #4125 on: November 28, 2016, 03:05:09 PM »
Well when you talk about Spider-Man I figure you were talking about a non-Peter Parker Spiderman :p

:huh

I thought this Miles Morales guy I've heard about would take it over after Marvel killed Parker off, but yeah I was wrong about that.

You have your universes mixed up- Miles Morales was the new Ultimate universe Spider-Man.  It was Ultimate Spider-Man who got killed off (he also came back  :lol  I'm not spoiler-tagging that because it was right before they stopped the book and was a nonsensical storyline that went nowhere), not the 616 version. 

Then when Marvel decided to kill off the entire Ultimate line, they took a big chunk of characters from the Miles Spider-Man book and integrated them into the 616 universe.  Maybe I'm forgetting someone, but after the big Secret Wars event last year, both Ultimate Spider-Man and friends, Ultimate Reed Richards (who is a villain), and Old Man Logan were moved to the main Marvel U.  It wouldn't surprise me if some "forgotten" Ultimate character(s) pop up for a later in another storyline event, too.  In fact the original Thor just got a new book and it's about him trying to get to a second hammer that popped up out of nowhere...likely from Secret Wars.

Maybe what you're also thinking of is the Superior Spider-Man.  This is the book where Peter Parker was replaced by someone else.  He of course inevitably came back as well.
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« Reply #4126 on: December 01, 2016, 03:48:26 AM »
You guys are making me SO HAPPY to be uninterested in mainstream comics. Death in Marvel and DC has become more trivialized than a D&D game run by an 11-year-old with ADHD.

Picked up some stuff in Comixology's recent sale. The Rat Queens is a bunch of fun (if you're a former 11-year-old D&D player who eschewed Resurrection) and kind of titillating and raunchy. Also picked up Ellis' TREES first three volumes -- the art in this is fresh and loose and awesome. I'm used to seeing more standard stuff accompanying Ellis' work, so this is super welcome.

Also rolling back through some HELLBLAZER tradepaperbacks, and realizing they were really a product of their era. Whew. Kinda... I dunno, embarrassing? I give it another 5 years, and they'll be more nostalgic than embarrassing.

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« Reply #4127 on: December 02, 2016, 02:05:51 PM »
Inhumans Vs. X-Men #0 focuses on Beast trying to find a cure for the terrigen cloud killing mutants and on Emma Frost doin' thangs behind the scenes, including plotting something with some woman at the Hellfire Club whose face is not shown.  In the end, Beast stumbles on Medusa telling the Inhuman leaders that the inevitable is going to happen and that they're going to have to take out the X-Men.  Even though Emma is also plotting retaliation, the way everything went down in this book made the Inhumans out as the bad guys to me.  They continue to be so damn unlikable, IMO. 

At one point, Iso, the Inhuman assisting Beast with his research, also suggests that maybe they can just get rid of the X-Gene in mutants to stop the terrigen cloud from doing anything to them, effectively making them no longer mutants.  Imma LOL hard if this is all just a plot by Marvel to just get rid of mutants altogether and have them all become Inhumans instead.  :lol
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« Reply #4128 on: December 23, 2016, 05:49:30 PM »
I wanna read some DC stuff thanks to Young Justice, but I don't know where to start. An employee at the Midtown Comics near my job explained to me today what The New 52 is and suggested that I start with Batman or The Justice League. Would you guys agree with this? Can you recommend me something? I wanna order some stuff while their sale is going on.
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« Reply #4129 on: December 23, 2016, 07:40:44 PM »
If you liked Young Justice I would recommend Teen Titans, it is pretty Young Justicey.


This is the first graphic novel in the run I would recommend. I sort of liked the new 52 run of Teen Titans but objectively it was not that good so it is sort of difficult to recommend.
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« Reply #4130 on: December 23, 2016, 08:12:23 PM »
TT New 52 v1 was garbage, which was no surprise considering it was written by human trash Scott Lobdell. Cancelled halfway through it's run and eventually replaced by an unoffensive but uninspired run.

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« Reply #4131 on: December 24, 2016, 12:55:19 AM »
If you liked Young Justice I would recommend Teen Titans, it is pretty Young Justicey.

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Of course they don't have this. I'll just get it from amazon or somewhere else.

Also, I'm not only looking for comics like Young Justice. As long as its DC, its good, and I'll learn more about some of these characters, I'll be happy with it.

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« Reply #4132 on: December 24, 2016, 03:28:11 PM »
If you liked Young Justice I would recommend Teen Titans, it is pretty Young Justicey.

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This is the first graphic novel in the run I would recommend. I sort of liked the new 52 run of Teen Titans but objectively it was not that good so it is sort of difficult to recommend.

I own that run of Teen Titans in TPB, it's pretty good. I also liked the Outsiders series that ran along side it. It was a Teen Titan-esque team that was led by Nightwing/Dick Grayson.
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« Reply #4133 on: December 24, 2016, 03:51:47 PM »
TT will never not be Tim + Kon + Bart to me.

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« Reply #4134 on: December 27, 2016, 05:02:00 PM »
Finished Warren Ellis's run on Thunderbolts last night (2007-2008 post-Civil War).  Was pretty dark, but good.  The finale of the arc is pretty nuts.  I have to say though, after reading a ton of Marvel I really dislike Bullseye.  Not only is he super evil murdering fucker (he's gotta be up there with most evil character in Marvel), but he's got insane plot armor up his ass so no one can ever really take him out.

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« Reply #4135 on: December 28, 2016, 08:02:58 AM »
Haven't talked about Spider-Man lately.  Of course nobody else here is reading it but me.  :'(

So over in the Clone Conspiracy, the big reveal recently has been that the Jackal is really
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Peter's clone Ben Reilly, the former Scarlet Spider and Spider-Man for a time, back from the dead.  He was resurrected (and killed) numerous times by the original Jackal (Professor Warren), who was trying to find a way to bring back people from the dead with clone bodies without their bodies disintegrating after a period of time.  Reilly finally breaks free and instead of just taking out Warren, he works to find a way to complete the research...using Warren as the test subject instead.  This is why there's a bunch of Warren clones helping out the Jackal at New U.  Reilly reveals himself to Peter and tells him that one of the people he wants to bring back is Uncle Ben.  Peter is initially pissed off but then decides to hear him out after a back and forth.  And this brings things full-circle, as Kaine has said that in alternate universes, Peter always ends up joining forces with this Jackal and creating a fucked-up zombie-like plague that destroys civilization.
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« Reply #4136 on: December 29, 2016, 08:27:12 PM »
Since beezy asked, here's my trade/run recommendations (mostly) from Infinite Crisis to the present day. Titles in red are my tippy-top favorites.


Crossovers

Infinite Crisis (2006)
Geoff Johns penned this "middle crisis," which ended up being my favorite crossover ever. Exploring the contrast between the silver and modern ages of the DC Universe and what being a hero today really means, it pushed the trinity of Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman further. There's a little lead up you might have to read for the full context (such as Brother Eye and Maxwell Lord), but for the most part you can go into it without many problems.

52 (2006-2007)
I admittedly haven't read most of it, but the central gimmick - exploring in "real time" (each issue is a week) what happened after Infinite Crisis, when the rest of the universe jumped forward a year - made for a very engaging hook. You get to see heroes you thought you'd never care about doing cool things, and it opens you up to how well the (massive) DC universe can function, even the smaller players, when in the right hands.

Final Crisis (2008)
Didn't care for it nearly as much as Infinite Crisis, and it's confusing in that trademark Grant Morrison way, but it's still a hallmark and full of great hero moments.

Flashpoint (2011)
If you've never quite "gotten" the Flash, this story will probably do it for you and is one of the few examples of a "darker alternate universe" done right.

Forever Evil (2013-2014)
I seem to disagree with the mainstream on this one, but this is the (only) crossover I think is truly great in the New 52. Focusing on Lex Luthor and a group of ostensible "super villains" as they battle evil alternate-dimension versions of the Justice League, the series served as a fantastic character piece for Lex and even got me caring about fucking Captain Cold and Bizarro. In a word, masterful.

Convergence (2015)
Or rather, certain miniseries of Convergence. I've never read the full thing or the framing story (about Brainiac and the multiverse and blah blah blah.) Convergence was fun and important because it brought back pre-New 52 stories and characters for the first time since it launched, opening the door to Rebirth.


Batman

Red Robin (2009-2011)
I'm biased as this is my favorite character, but I still recommend it to everyone because it's: 1. steeped in Batman lore, 2. focused on a sympathetic and well-written protagonist, 3. paced super tight and never wastes your time, 4. is pretty clever with its story "twists", and most importantly 5. features fucking revelatory art from my favorite comic book artist of all time, Marcus To.

Batman and Robin (2009-2011)
This is probably my favorite thing Grant Morrison's ever done. With Bruce Wayne "dead" after Final Crisis, original-Robin Dick Grayson steps into the cape and cowl opposite Bruce Wayne's newfound assassin son, Damian, as Robin. It's super fun and crazy and still somehow so very Batman at the end of the day, even though it never features Bruce Wayne himself. One of the most satisfying runs of any Batman comic I've ever read. Damian would later say, "We were the best, Grayson, no matter what anyone thinks," and he's entirely right.

Batman Incorporated (2010-2011 and 2012-2013)
Grant Morrison's Bat-magnum opus is larger than life, to its benefit and hindrance. Grant is great at globe-trotting bombast, but misses the mark frequently in this series when it comes to quieter character moments (which it must be said, are few and far between.) A massively important Batman story that culminates over 7-years of setup from Morrison himself, the series doesn't quite sustain itself dramatically, frequently taking long asides to characters and events that Grant very much cares about - whether or not you do.

Batman: The Black Mirror (2011)
A great Batman side-story featuring Dick as Batman, there's not much else to say other than strap in for a great ride.

Batman and Robin (2011-2015)
Peter J. Tomasi had big Morrison-shaped boots to fill after the series relaunched for the New 52, and while it never reaches the heights of its predecessors it's still a very solid book. The first couple arcs are a little shaky, and it almost feels like the entire floor beneath the series collapses after the events of Batman Incorporated, but it pulls itself up in the latter half of its run. It also features, in my opinion, the best Two-Face story outside The Long Halloween (which is my favorite non-canon Batman trade.)

Batman (2011-2016)
Scott Snyder and Greg Capullo reshape The Dark Knight inside and out, from his origin to his villains and even much of his personality, and they succeed wildly. The argument is never whether their run is good or not, it's about which arcs inside the run were best. Many cite the debut storylines "Court of Owls" and "Night of Owls" as the best, and while they were fantastic (introducing us to a completely new villanous organization that feels like it's been part of Bat-mythos from the start), my favorite was "Death of the Family." One of the best Joker stories ever, this arc had more tension in a few scant pages than most entire runs ever come close to. "Zero Year" was fun but overstuffed, "Endgame" was a little over-ambitious yet still satisfying, and "Superheavy" was batshit (sorry) off-the-wall craziness that somehow works (and I'm sad that incarnation of Batman didn't get to continue a little further.)

Batman: Li'l Gotham (2012-2013)
Most of the entries on this list are full cuts of prime steak, but this one is more like a light, sweet sorbet. Give a couple issues a read and I guarantee you'll be grinning from ear-to-ear most of the time, as I was. Dustin Nguyen (of Descender fame) contributes confectionery art to go along with the for-kids-but-still-enjoyable-for-adults writing. This was the only series at the start of the New 52 to keep the continuity and costumes of the previous DC Universe, and that added another layer of endearment for me personally.

Grayson (2014-2016)
One of the freshest, funnest, well-written titles I've ever read. Former-Robin and former-Nightwing Dick Grayson becomes an international superspy for Batman Incorporated's Spyral after the events of Forever Evil. You wouldn't think such a concept would work, but it does on the back of inventive and clever writing by Tim Seeley and Tom King, of whom I am a massive fan thanks to this series.

Batman Eternal (2014-2015)
A fucking all-star cast of Batman writers join forces in this year-long weekly series about the framing and exoneration of Jim Gordon and the team-up of every Batman family member, while also re-introducing fan favorites to the New 52. A brilliant series that I've gone on record as saying "this is everything I want out of a Batman story."

Batman and Robin Eternal (2015-2016)
The half-year sequel to Batman Eternal was a little more muddled than its predecessor but still featured the Bat-family in action and the re-introduction of fan favorites at a weekly clip. It also gets points for showing the early years of Dick as Robin, a first for the New 52's continuity, and despite his horrid horrid horrid new costume, it's compelling enough to keep you engaged to the end.

Robin: Son of Batman (2015-2016)
A character study of Damian, and if you don't like him then I'd still suggest giving this series a shot before writing him off. Damian is more vulnerable than ever before and you finally get to see inside his preteen-sized brain to see what makes him tick. A coming-of-age story combined with themes of atonement and honor, Robin: Son of Batman makes the best case for Damian Wayne since Morrison's run on Batman and Robin.

Detective Comics (2016-)
Detective Comics returns to its original numbering post-Rebirth, starting with issue #934. One of Rebirth's bimonthly series, it sees Batman assemble a team comprising of himself, Batwoman (Kate Kane), Red Robin (Tim Drake), Orphan (Cass Cain), Spoiler (Steph Brown), and former-villain Clayface (Basil Karlo) to fight a war against crime in Gotham. This series brings back vivid, fond memories of Batman Eternal with its strong team dynamics. This run is entering its fourth arc now, and I've never been more excited for new issues of Detective Comics.


Superman

Superman: Lois and Clark (2015-2016)
This follows from Convergence: Superman, where it's revealed the Superman from before the New 52 and his wife Lois Lane have escaped to find refuge in the New 52 universe. Also with them is their half-Kryptonian young son Jonathan Kent. Required reading for the below series, which is why I'm including it here.

Superman (2016-) and Superman: Rebirth (2016)
Superman's son Jon Kent has grown a few years and he assumes the mantle of Superboy (though his parents are much more trepidatious about this than he is, of course.) A story about growing up (with super powers) and finding your way under the shadow of your father's legacy, Rebirth's Superman series is at its core well-written and fun. Just a whole lot of fun and heart. And that's what I want in a Superman story, goddamnit.

Superman: American Alien (2016)
Internet vagabond and prolific screenwriter Max Landis puts his money where his mouth is and writes this six-part Superman comic, each issue set during a different era of Clark's life and superhero career. And to be certain, this series is about Clark Kent, not Superman (necessarily.) In all honesty, this series should have been Clark's origin story in the New 52 and not an extra-canon side-story.


Other

Secret Six (2006 and 2014-2016)
These are two different series but they're both worth reading. Gail Simone got a lot of (deserved) praise for this team-up book, which for my money is far far better than anything with "Suicide Squad" in its title has ever been.

Justice League (2011-2016)
All of the story arcs for the New 52 Justice League were really solid, but my favorite was The Darkseid War (even if it felt a bit rushed.) The five-year build-up from Darkseid's initial attack at the start of the New 52 until now explodes into all-out war, with all players getting a chance to shine. (Also ties up some loose ends from Forever Evil.)

Shazam! (2014)
Geoff Johns worked overtime to re-tell Billy Batson’s origin story in extra pages of Justice League, but it’s hard to tell that from the collected volume. This is a wonderful take on the character, and while I originally wasn’t on-board with Billy’s new bratty demeanor, it ends up working for the story as written. If only Johns had enough time for another go at the character…

Teen Titans: Earth One (2014 and 2016)
I haven't ready the other Earth One books (which exist in their own completely-separate continuity, similar to Ultimate Marvel), and like Ultimate Marvel the Earth One books "streamline" and update the origins of heroes to make a little more plausible sense in a modern setting. Teen Titans: Earth One pulled this off to great effect, tying all the eventual-Titans together with a believable shared origin. Earth One books are also in "graphic novel" form - no monthly issues, the "trade" is released all at once! This format allows the writers a lot of breathing room and you can really see that with Teen Titans, as the individual characters' personalities and group interplay dynamics shine. I haven't gotten around to the recently-released second volume but I'm sure it's top notch too.

Midnighter (2015-2016)
Foil to Agent 37, Grayson's standout antihero gets his own short-lived series. Not much to say about the plots, but the character and power set of Midnighter feels fresh enough that you don't have to stop and think about things too hard.

DC Universe: Rebirth (2016)
The New 52 has ended. (Caucasian) Wally West from pre-Flashpoint returns to warn everyone about the perils the DC universe now faces: someone or something has stolen an entire decade from the heroes, and the signs point toward something you might not expect. More of a "woops, sorry" for the New 52 than anything, this extra-large one-shot sets up the current state of the DC universe and packs a couple fan favorite moments.

Titans (2016-) and Titans: Rebirth (2016)
Following on directly from DC Universe: Rebirth, this series involves the "original" Teen Titans as they seek to solve the mystery of New 52's "lost time." Seeing Nightwing, Roy Harper, (Caucasian) Wally West, Donna Troy and others back together as adults will warm the cockles of any fan of George Pérez's legendary Teen Titans run.


So WTF/Bad They're Entertaining

Identity Crisis (2004)
DC gets DARK and SERIOUS to hilarious effect. Plot holes and melodrama abound, and while some of it is effective (the Tim and Jack Drake subplot was well done, but I might be biased there) the end result is a vapid stain on the once-proud cape of the DC universe.

All Star Batman & Robin, the Boy Wonder (2005-2008)
Frank Miller goes fucking insane (again) and gives us a Batman that fucks Black Canary in public (with their costumes on) and forces Robin to eat rats to survive. Once you get over Batman not being Batman, you get some best-of-decade art courtesy Jim Lee and some truly LOL-worthy moments - including half an issue where Batman paints a room yellow just to fuck with Hal Jordan. Not kidding.

Countdown to Final Crisis (2007-2008)
DC head honcho Dan DiDio reportedly hated the brilliant 52 for specious reasons, and hailed Countdown as "52 done right." Karma was never a bigger bitch than with this series.


Ongoings

These are post-Rebirth titles that are now going, which I think are worth reading and keeping up with. Slightly biased since I'm so into Bat-stuff.

- Superman (2016)
- Batman (2016)
- Detective Comics (2016)
- Titans (2016)
- Nightwing (2016)
- Teen Titans (2016) Maybe, haven't read the issues yet but I have faith in the team (heard good things about Ben Percy's Green Arrow Stuff), and I'm a Damian fan.

Edit- Reordered by date and added Shazam.
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« Reply #4137 on: December 29, 2016, 10:09:29 PM »
 :o

Thank you :bow

All I've bought since my last post in here is the New 52 Justice League, but I'll definitely pick up some stuff from your list.

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« Reply #4138 on: December 29, 2016, 10:25:27 PM »
:o

Thank you :bow

All I've bought since my last post in here is the New 52 Justice League, but I'll definitely pick up some stuff from your list.

NP, I've been meaning to make a list like this for a while. :P

Give us a heads-up what you plan on picking up, as I can point out connected titles and list off some context for you.
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« Reply #4139 on: December 29, 2016, 11:32:04 PM »
Midnighter is originally from The Authority/Stormwatch. The former of which he was in a homosexualist relationship with another hero raising a "daughter". He was saved from the pile of discontinuity for use in Grayson though.

52 is fucking amazing, but I think you need to have gone Grant Morrison obsession level with some of the canon to appreciate it to its max. It's the culmination of the fours (Waid/Morrison/Rucka/Johns) plus James Robinson's runs on Starman/JSA/Gotham Central/Checkmate/JLA/The Kingdom brought to a head due to Infinite Crisis to setup for Final Crisis. (And they may not have known it, but New Krypton. Also, because Morrison was involved there's all sorts of tiny setups for what eventually happens in The Multiversity.) The amazing thing is it does this with none of the major DC characters, Superman/Batman/Flash/etc. are all on the sidelines.

Final Crisis was poorly published and is still poorly collected, the entire thing, not just the main book events are the "final crisis" ending the main story arcs that Morrison, Rucka, and Johns had started much much earlier in other books, most of them in the Infinite Crisis tie-ins.

FC's central theme that evil wins, but it's pointless for them to win and thus end reality aka stories, so the multiverse self-reboots with its own literal deus ex machina to clear out the infection is lost because it's spread all over the tie-ins and Morrison put half the plot in two other books. This also undermines R.I.P. and its own, later, conclusion.

What they should have done is not held back Blackest Night or have held back Final Crisis. Using the former could fix a weird plot hole in the latter and would tie together the lone arc that gets ignored because Johns had all these plans in motion for Green Lantern so they barely appear in FC. Nekron's goal and actions in Blackest Night make infinitely more sense (and would have more weight than suddenly coming out of nowhere) if he's taking part in conjunction with Darkseid, Superboy Prime and Vandal Savage/Cain's bringing about of the "final crisis" event.

Anyway, Booster Gold spins out of 52 and is sweet. All the Batwoman stuff is pretty fun too.

I like Shadowpact, New 52's Justice League Dark was ultimately disappointing in comparison.

No Man's Land is Batman's and arguably DC's greatest story arc. Fight me about it.